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Stand Pat 182

Mostly the Super Bowl gives you two teams you don’t like. Maybe 65-90.9% of the time, depending on how low your standards are. Today’s game certainly qualifies, so I need a different metric for picking a rooting interest.

Today, I will cheer on the team with the closest baseball connection. Pat Mahomes contributed a whopping 0.1 career WAR over 11 big league seasons. His best years were probably with the 1999-2000 Mets. He made four appearances for them in the 1999 playoffs, and was left off the postseason roster of the 2000 team which reached the World Series. Pat also played a year and a half for the Yokohama BayStars in the 90s, and kept pitching for another six seasons in minors and independent leagues after his MLB years were done. Possibly because he just loved baseball, but more likely to provide for his family.

There’s not a lot of insight about Pat Mahomes on the internet. Or at least, it’s hard to Google. I did read this account of his career. He gave up a three-run bomb to Juan Gonzalez in the first inning of his debut.

In other Pat news:

Pat’s King of Steaks, the preferred choice for the discerning less-racist consumer of Philly cheesesteaks.

Pat the Bunny!

Pat Morita had to audition five times before landing his iconic, Academy Award nominated role of Mr. Miyagi, because the producers couldn’t get the Arnold character out of their minds. Wax on, wax off.

And if your bank account is feeling a little too pat, the Super Bowl offers a deep, rich menu of conventional lines and proposition bets to let you lose it all double it! I’ll go with Tampa +3 but KC to win outright (-155), under 56 total points, and Tampa to have to punt more than 3.5 times.

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182 thoughts on “Stand Pat

  1. Soaker Soaker Feb 7,2021 11:08 am

    The A’s generally pounded Mahomes, to the tune of .283/.378/.613 in 246 PA. Oakland’s 19 home runs off him were by far the most by any opposing team (the Orioles were second with 10).

    3 HR: Brent Gates
    2 HR: Rickey, Ruben Sierra, Scott Brosius, Miguel Tejada
    1 each: Harold Baines, Mark McGwire, Terry Steinbach, Geronimo Berroa, Jason Giambi, Terrence Long, Jeremy Giambi, Eric Chavez

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    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 7,2021 11:47 am || Up

      That list of A’s homerers is an excellent encapsulation of the Oakland offense of that era. Surprised Matt Stairs didn’t join the party.

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      • elcroata elcroata Feb 7,2021 12:11 pm || Up

        Matt “Have bat, will homer” Stairs

        Because survival is insufficient
      • Soaker Soaker Feb 7,2021 12:44 pm || Up

        Stairs had 0 PA vs. Mahomes while he was with the A’s. Mahomes spent most of 1997-1998 in the minors and also Japan, and then was with the Mets in 1999-2000. That pretty much matches the span of Stairs’ A’s career. Ben Grieve is another omission for the same reason.

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  2. batgirl batgirl Feb 7,2021 11:29 am

    Who ya got, Pupgrade? OMG Jett!! Also Chunky Monkey.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 7,2021 11:42 am || Up

      I like Comet a lot, but expect Vinnie to be the dislikable annoying guy from Boston who wins the MVP.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • batgirl batgirl Feb 7,2021 11:54 am || Up

      Chunky Monkey is trending on twitter.

  3. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 7,2021 11:29 am

    You Cal Bears probably knew this, but I learned today that Jared Goff’s dad Jerry also played in MLB. Was in fact drafted by the A’s, went to Cal instead, then had a not much remembered career as a backup catcher with the Expos and Mariners among others. Biggest claim to fame is sharing the all-time record with six passed balls allowed in a game. He also homered!

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  4. andeux andeux Feb 7,2021 11:38 am

    I don’t remember Mahomes the elder at all (wasn’t watching much baseball in the late 90s, but must have seen him pitch against the A’s at some point when he was a Ranger in 2001).
    He would have been a teammate of Rickey on those 1999-2000 Mets team.

    And of course both QBs were themselves drafted by MLB teams out of high school – Mahomes in the 37th round by the Tigers, and the other guy in the 16th round by the Expos.
    Also on his b-r page, you may notice Mahomes’ infinite ERA from his lone appearance in college. You can read about it here.

    A young pitcher came in, threw 15 pitches and couldn’t find the plate. He threw just four strikes. Fletcher was the third hitter to face the freshman pitcher, and he walked and took his base. He took off his elbow guard, looked over for the sign from the third-base coach and saw the Red Raiders’ pitcher was being taken out. He was given a standing ovation by the Texas Tech fans.

    “I was like, ‘Why in the world are they giving him a standing ovation?’ It was the weirdest thing,” Fletcher said from his baseball facility in Central Illinois. “I got back in the dugout and asked, ‘What was going on with them giving him a standing ovation, were they being mean to him?’ My teammates were like, ‘He’s the starting quarterback on the football team.’ ”

    TINSTAAFK
    • Soaker Soaker Feb 7,2021 11:46 am || Up

      Super Bowl starting QBs both being MLB draft choices has happened before (last time: 2015, Russell Wilson vs. the other guy). There would be a chance of it if the Arizona Cardinals get to the Super Bowl in the next few years.

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    • 5Aces 5Aces Feb 7,2021 8:12 pm || Up

      Baseballish QB connection: Brady’s sister Maureen pitched for Fresno State, making it to the Softball CWS twice.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
      • colin colin Feb 8,2021 7:10 am || Up

        And another Brady sister, Julie, is married to Kevin Youkilis.

  5. andeux andeux Feb 7,2021 12:39 pm

    Hawleys vs. Rubios

    TINSTAAFK
  6. Soaker Soaker Feb 7,2021 12:55 pm

    Clicking on the Pat’s King of Steaks link to view the menu and food pics, it has always upset me that so many delicious cheesesteaks are ruined by the application of Cheez Whiz. Looks like they destroy their fries that way as well. I’ll have mine with the Provolone, please.

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    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 7,2021 1:41 pm || Up

      You have to pretend that Wit Whiz is the standard or they revoke your Philly card.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Soaker Soaker Feb 7,2021 3:17 pm || Up

        Yeah, I’m sure I’ve never booed Santa Claus and I doubt I ever booed Mike Schmidt either. That city and I wouldn’t be a good fit.

        Random note about Schmidt: Some friends and I were at Candlestick one day and commenting about how awful Schmidt looked. He did walk twice but made 3 feeble outs and committed some terrible error. The next day he was on ESPN making his tearful retirement announcement. (That is one ugly linescore: “For Your San Francisco Giants, 8 runs on 4 hits and 4 errors…”)

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  7. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 7,2021 1:43 pm

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  8. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 7,2021 3:23 pm

    Deepfake Vince Lombardi is just as creepy as I imagine the original was.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 8,2021 10:28 am || Up

      Have you watched the Deepfake Al Davis-Pete Rozelle 30 for 30 yet? I felt a little unfcomfortable watching it, in part because the quality of the fakes was so good.

      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 8,2021 11:37 am || Up

        Oh god no, I didn’t know that was a thing, each of those guys was already terrifying in real life.

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  9. elcroata elcroata Feb 7,2021 3:51 pm

    Halfway there with the punts

    Because survival is insufficient
    • elcroata elcroata Feb 7,2021 4:50 pm || Up

      Does the punt count here?

      Because survival is insufficient
    • Soaker Soaker Feb 7,2021 6:31 pm || Up

      On the bright side, Under 56 still looks promising.

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      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 7,2021 6:55 pm || Up

        If KC can force a punt on this last TB possession I’ll go 3-for-4.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 7,2021 7:13 pm || Up

          Ch-ching! I’ll invest my winnings in an undervalued company that makes fax machines.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  10. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 7,2021 4:44 pm

    Hoping that soon KC runs out of feet to shoot themselves in.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 7,2021 4:46 pm || Up

      Nope, still shooting!

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • andeux andeux Feb 7,2021 4:51 pm || Up

      They looked so unstoppable two weeks ago. Sigh.

      TINSTAAFK
      • andeux andeux Feb 7,2021 5:02 pm || Up

        Of course, ability to get real pressure on Mahomes may have something to do with it.

        TINSTAAFK
  11. elcroata elcroata Feb 7,2021 4:44 pm

    Of course they got the bullshit call

    Because survival is insufficient
  12. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 7,2021 4:50 pm

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  13. elcroata elcroata Feb 7,2021 4:51 pm

    Not based on any evidence, but I’d say Brady got about the half of all the holding calls in this post-season

    Because survival is insufficient
    • andeux andeux Feb 7,2021 5:14 pm || Up

      Maybe half of the pass interference calls now too.

      TINSTAAFK
  14. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 7,2021 5:17 pm

    The first half stars are Brady, Gronk, Antonio Brown and the refs. Yuck.

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  15. Soaker Soaker Feb 7,2021 5:23 pm

    Will somebody please try a “Bud Light Seltzer Lemonade” for me and report back on the taste experience.

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    • colin colin Feb 7,2021 6:10 pm || Up

  16. andeux andeux Feb 7,2021 6:36 pm

    Is it too late to do Ed’s thing where you try not to find out who won the super bowl?

    TINSTAAFK
  17. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 7,2021 10:30 pm

    Pedro Gomez sounds like he was a really sweet guy. Nice story here from Howard Bryant featuring Tony La Russa being a total dick.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 8,2021 2:12 pm || Up

      I didn’t have any opinion really about Pedro Gomez, but I’m hella impressed by the outpouring of stories about what a good guy he was.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  18. doctorK doctorK Feb 8,2021 8:29 am

    The Chiefs lost. Badly. Which fills me with joy.

    The Bucs won. Brady gets another ring. Antonio Brown, that FKing quitter, gets a ring. These fill me with intense rage.

    Overall, meh.

  19. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 8,2021 11:40 am

    Sounds like bad news for Khris Davis and good news for Mike Fiers?

    The Athletic obtained an internal memo Major League Baseball sent Friday to general managers, assistant general managers, and equipment managers outlining minor changes that might combine to reduce offense slightly in the 2021 season. The combined effects might seem imperceptible to fans and perhaps even those on the field, but past history suggests very small changes to the ball’s construction can be a big deal.

    “In an effort to center the ball with the specification range for COR and CCOR, Rawlings produced a number of baseballs from late 2019 through early 2020 that loosened the tension of the first wool winding,” the memo from the office of the commissioner reads, explaining that this change had two effects — reducing the weight of the ball by less than one-tenth of an ounce, and also a slight decrease in the bounciness of the ball as measured by the COR and CCOR.

  20. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 8,2021 3:01 pm

    • Soaker Soaker Feb 8,2021 3:37 pm || Up

      >:-( Why not have a 24-team postseason while you’re at it.

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      • 5Aces 5Aces Feb 8,2021 5:59 pm || Up

        If someone can explain to me why the 8th hour you are at the park during a doubleheader is the magin time for Covid I would appreciate it.

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
        • andeux andeux Feb 8,2021 6:04 pm || Up

          I think it’s more an indirect thing.
          They expect more doubleheaders because some team might have to cancel games for a week (or because the season may start late, although the union rejected that proposal) and don’t want teams wearing down too much from having to play something like 17 full games in 14 days.

          TINSTAAFK
    • Soaker Soaker Feb 9,2021 3:04 pm || Up

      No, I’m not going to any Cactus League games this year. (Rosenthal in The Athletic)

      Phase 3 will include exhibition games between clubs, beginning on Feb. 27 or 28. Games that occur from Feb. 27 (or 28) through March 13 may be shortened to seven-inning games or five-inning games upon mutual agreement of both managers. Games that occur on or after March 14 shall be nine-inning games (and, upon mutual agreement of both managers, can be shortened to seven-inning games).

      For spring training games that occur between Feb. 27 or 28 through March 13, the “retiring the side” rule will be relaxed. Defensive managers may end an inning prior to three outs following any completed plate appearance, provided the pitcher has thrown at least 20 pitches.

      Substitution rules in spring training shall be relaxed, allowing for re-entry for all pitchers. [I assume that’s a typo, should be non-pitchers]

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      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 9,2021 3:17 pm || Up

        Shortened spring games are all fine for the big leaguers rounding into shape, a lot less helpful for prospects you want to look at. Is there even an ostensible plan for minor leagues this year? Hopefully they’re not relying on the futile practice squads again.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • Soaker Soaker Feb 9,2021 3:23 pm || Up

          It sounds like only AAA is going to start initially (not necessarily on time) and there will be an “Alternate Training Site” again (at least before the weather gets too hot, logically the spring training facilities). Nothing specific about AA and below.

          By 4:00 PM ET on Feb. 12, each club must submit to MLB a list of no more than 75 total players for spring training. By 12:00 PM ET on Opening Day, each club must submit a 26-player Opening Day roster, as well as a list of up to 28 players that will be assigned either to the Class AAA affiliate or Alternate Training Site. Any player on a major-league Injured List who does not remain with the club also will be assigned to the Alternate Training Site but will not count against the 28-player maximum.

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          • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 9,2021 4:33 pm || Up

            AAA seems like a much better way to have a guy ready when you need him at the big club. It felt like almost a guaranteed loss last year to throw a spot starter off the practice squad who hadn’t pitched a real game in months.

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      • andeux andeux Feb 9,2021 4:08 pm || Up

        Defensive managers may end an inning prior to three outs following any completed plate appearance, provided the pitcher has thrown at least 20 pitches.

        So you can load the bases and then the pitching side just declares the inning over? Cool.

        TINSTAAFK
        • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 9,2021 4:35 pm || Up

          Jake Diekman approves.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 9,2021 4:39 pm || Up

            Pfft, he can load the bases in a lot less than 20 pitches.

        • Soaker Soaker Feb 9,2021 7:46 pm || Up

          I’d think that rule along with prearranged seven-inning games comes in most useful on split-squad days, of which the A’s have two by March 13. The rest of the time, some crappy pitcher is getting his brains beat out, looks pleadingly over at Melvin and Bob just sits there with arms folded, glaring back at him.

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          • andeux andeux Feb 12,2021 10:16 am || Up

            TINSTAAFK
  21. andeux andeux Feb 8,2021 5:52 pm

    Bed bait:

    TINSTAAFK
  22. elcroata elcroata Feb 9,2021 5:21 am

    Hey peeps,
    just wanted to tell you that we ditched Stuttgart and moved to Canary Islands for two months, as I got the permission to move home office abroad for that period of time. It was an interesting travel day yesterday, to say the least. First the TUI cancelled my flight a week ago and replaced it with one from Frankfurt, so we bought a train ticket to get there. Then on the morning of the flight, the rail company cancelled the train, because of the snow in the north. So we ended up sprinting 200 kilometers in a cab and did catch the flight. But, it has already paid off, as we have a little house on the beach, and tennis courts are open and only five minutes (of strolling on the beach) form where we live. I’m writing this from a garden, dressed in shorts, tank-top and flip-flops. I suddenly care a little less about the Super Bowl. Cheers!

    Because survival is insufficient
    • colin colin Feb 9,2021 6:56 am || Up

      You’ll be in my thoughts and prayers when it hits 0F in Cincinnati overnight Sunday

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 9,2021 7:40 am || Up

      Jeez, a guy gets one taste of major publishing success and bang, it’s lifestyles of the rich and famous.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  23. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 9,2021 11:08 am

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  24. Future Ed Future Ed Feb 9,2021 12:21 pm

    I think it’s ok for a public defender to do an “aw shucks we don’t have the resources of the GOVERNMENT OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA to do a presentation with all the bells and whistles,” but, this?

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • AV AV Feb 9,2021 12:52 pm || Up

      are you paying attention? i can’t. but what did they say about vinyl records?

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 9,2021 2:17 pm || Up

        They are for them.

        I have not bought any new equipment like I said I would, but while at best buy I stopped by magnolia hi fi. The dude demonstrated a $600 pairof speakers that were great, then a $1500 pair that were just fucking amazing. These were at the low end of the price points. I cannot imagine what even $2500 ones sound like.

        I am so very confused by it all

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • AV AV Feb 9,2021 2:52 pm || Up

          i have shitty old wooden boxes that sound fine. but then i do like that gain down, volume up, round bass at 6 feet away sound. none of that punchy stuff for me.

          here’s a mystery. last week taylor swift and harry styles were peaking vinyl sales. this week…

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
          • colin colin Feb 10,2021 7:00 am || Up

            I don’t understand vinyl sales anymore. Just got someone on discogs to pay me $125 for a punk record from 2002.

            • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 10,2021 12:51 pm || Up

              Have you seen the market for the chats? A current Australian band. one record on Burger. I heard the song smoko, and it was cute, but a few months later and after the burger blowup, I heard a the anti nazi song on the radio in july and thought, OK, I’ll get that. Of course burger is no more so i go on discogs and that record is over $100. 2017 record. I have it in my want list so and its down to about $60 US which I ain’t paying.

              I have $5. No I don\'t.
              • colin colin Feb 11,2021 6:56 am || Up

                This is the one that I sold. Yeah it’s the original pressing that was a fairly limited run but a) Fat Wreck isn’t exactly an obscure label and b) all their songs are about getting drunk and they sound a bit too much like Blink 182. But I probably listed it too low! At $125 I received an offer within like 10 minutes of posting. Also very quickly sold a couple of Rancid records and a 10″ by an east bay ska band.

                • AV AV Feb 11,2021 7:31 am || Up

                  oh shit. gimme their number.

                  i have a lawrence arms suicide king teeshirt i’d be glad to overprice.

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • colin colin Feb 11,2021 10:23 am || Up
                • AV AV Feb 11,2021 12:38 pm || Up

                  and they are on a lawrence arms tear.

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 11,2021 8:53 am || Up

                  I looked up the white stripes 45s I sold 15 years ago to make a down payment on my house, and fortunately they were about the price we ebay’d them for. Which adjusting for inflation, we made out pretty good.

                  I think I have told the story before that at a show in like 2000 I got a little annoyed with SLF for buying some records from the band that we already had. I think it was our last $9 cash and I wanted more drinks. In her defense, I am not sure she knew what we had. But maybe also she was hedging like she was going to dump me.

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
  25. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 9,2021 5:05 pm

    Dallas Mavericks no longer play the national anthem before games. I hope this spreads, but doubt it will.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 9,2021 5:57 pm || Up

      Cuban’s got the right idea. Don’t announce anything, don’t explain it. Just stop doing it and wait for someone to notice.

    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 10,2021 2:21 pm || Up

      All events that receive public funding? Really??

      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 10,2021 3:05 pm || Up

        Lt. Gov. Indicted McShithead should have someone acquaint him with Major Major Major Major and the Glorious Loyalty Oath Crusade.

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  26. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 10,2021 11:13 am

    • lenscrafters Feb 10,2021 11:37 am || Up

      The only injury prone player I can think of who somehow managed to have his healthiest seasons with the A’s.

      That LF/DH hole is still open for a Cespedes reunion…

      • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 10,2021 12:51 pm || Up

        has anyone kicked the tires on McCarthy?

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Soaker Soaker Feb 10,2021 12:04 pm || Up

      I doubt any A’s pitcher would be very happy to turn around and see him standing in a middle infield position.

      Perhaps he wants to get into the coaching and managing side, and player-coach as a Las Vegas Aviator would start the transition.

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      • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 10,2021 12:52 pm || Up

        could he have been worse than lastella?

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 10,2021 2:11 pm || Up

      Return of the Jedi was a bad movie. If this ends with Ewoks I am out of here.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • batgirl batgirl Feb 11,2021 10:20 am || Up

        Counterpoint. Return of the Jedi is awesome and the Ewoks are the best thing about it. If I ever get an appropriate dog, its name will be Wicket.

    • andeux andeux Feb 10,2021 2:19 pm || Up

      Off the top of my head, I would not have said he was our starting 2B as recently as 2018. Seems like a million years ago.
      And since then, he has had only 8 plate appearances.

      TINSTAAFK
  27. AV AV Feb 10,2021 3:13 pm

    it’s never not pillows ever again.

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  28. Soaker Soaker Feb 10,2021 4:15 pm

    Ewww, that’s the first time I’ve received a jury notice from United States District Court (in Reno). It’s not a summons, just a notification that I’m in the pool for the next two years and request to complete a basic questionnaire. I’m not afraid of jury duty but all previous experience has been the small-time stuff in Alameda County Superior Court.

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  29. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 10,2021 6:59 pm

    Good ballpark lawsuit news but…

    “We were going to try to open by 2023,” A’s president Dave Kaval said in a phone conversation Wednesday. “That’s obviously slipped. How far it slipped, I can’t answer that. I don’t know yet. It depends on if the city can even get this to a vote this year. It depends on the other priorities the city council might have.”

    • andeux andeux Feb 10,2021 7:29 pm || Up

      The fast-tracking means there is a 270-day limit to resolve lawsuits related to the EIR. But that still means 9 months from when the report is released before ground could be broken. So if they are talking “maybe this year” for the EIR, that means late 2022 before construction starts, so yeah even opening day 2024 is starting to look iffy.
      And of course that assumes that other issues, like financing, can also be worked out by then.

      TINSTAAFK
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 11,2021 10:39 am || Up

        Some frustration maybe leaking out here.

        • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 11,2021 12:58 pm || Up

          I’m having a hard time believing the A’s still have the financing lined up. I know operating costs are apples and oranges, but the disconnect between the A’s asserting they can build without public support is at odds with extreme day-to-day penny pinching. I don’t know anything about Oakland’s situation around the EIR release, but I can imagine the City Council being reluctant to engage in the difficult public process only to be told 270 days later later that Fisher can’t finance the thing after all.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 11,2021 2:04 pm || Up

            That would help explain Kaval et al going mostly radio silent over the last several months. Hey, maybe Fisher is hoping to sell the team along with a shovel-ready, CEQA-cleared stadium plan, just add financing.

    • Englishmajor Englishmajor Feb 11,2021 10:21 pm || Up

      What ho, chaps, and happy New Year!

      • Englishmajor Englishmajor Feb 11,2021 10:28 pm || Up

        I had a chat with Dave Kaval today, after he did a broadcast interview with my colleague Tara about the stadium situation, and have some tidbits of news that may be of interest:

        – the radio broadcasts will be on Bloomberg Radio in the Bay Area again this season;
        – they have approval to sell 2K tickets per game for spring training games in Mesa, and have a lot of protocols about different entrances, seats being distanced, limits on concessions etc. which he thinks will be helpful in trying things out for a return to fans at the Coliseum. As to when that happens, Dave says it will mostly depend on what tier Alameda County is by April…if we’re still in purple or red, probably not, but once we get in to orange and yellow, probably yes.
        – player safety protocols and clubhouse operations are improved from last year, building on the experience of other leagues. They will have some rapid testing in the clubhouse as well as the tests that get sent to the lab in Utah that caused delays last year.
        – they haven’t even started to think about a new Coliseum PA announcer; he says everyone is still grieving for Dick Callahan.

        • sslinger Feb 11,2021 10:35 pm || Up

          Hi Em – thanks for the update. I was a serious doubter that they’d be able to pull of even the partial season they did last year, and was pleasantly surprised to see it go through the WS. This year I’ll be skeptical about being able to go to a game, and hope that I’m wrong again.

  30. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 10,2021 8:16 pm

    No Benintendi

  31. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 10,2021 10:09 pm

    The A’s have the 29th-ranked farm system according to Keith Law.

    Terrible luck with pitcher health and limited production on the international front have both really hurt the A’s system, which is generally shallow but especially so on the mound, while they’ve also been held back by some top-10 overall picks that haven’t worked out, from Austin Beck to Kyler Murray (the latter not their fault).

    (Gonna have to disagree with that parenthetical.)

    • ptbnl Feb 11,2021 7:39 am || Up

      But how could they have known what everyone knew?

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 11,2021 8:46 am || Up

      (yeah)

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • elcroata elcroata Feb 14,2021 11:35 am || Up

      Kiley McDaniel bumps them all the way to… 26th!

      26. Oakland Athletics ($117 million)
      Last year: 14th, $222 million (tied for largest rankings decline, largest value decline)

      Tampa Bay is 1st again with $496m surplus value in the minors

      Because survival is insufficient
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 16,2021 9:00 am || Up

      Law’s Top 20 for the A’s has some interesting nuggets, though I wonder how attenuated the tea-leaf reading is after a year without minor leagues:

      -“The early consensus on [#2] Soderstrom from instructs is that he can really, really hit, and that he really isn’t a catcher.” Thinks he ends up playing third.
      -“[#3] Allen could play shortstop in the majors right now, but his bat isn’t ready for it as he still needs to get stronger” in the hands and wrists. Unfortunately, “he’s already added a lot of forearm muscle and there may not be another gear.”
      -He didn’t like #5 Jeff Criswell coming out of the draft, but thinks he is a “different guy” now with a cleaner delivery and multiple plus pitches.
      -#8 Puason “has time to improve, but the early returns aren’t great” in the field or at the plate.
      -“[#15] Beck’s bat is so fast that it’s in and out of the zone too quickly, and he doesn’t have the pitch recognition or hand-eye to get the bat head to the ball often enough to counteract that.” But he is “a plus defender in center now with a cannon of an arm.”

  32. Future Ed Future Ed Feb 11,2021 8:46 am

    happy aces birthday

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • 5Aces 5Aces Feb 12,2021 7:35 am || Up

      Thanks Ed. 1 year closer to seeing if MLB will give out Sr discounts!!

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  33. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 11,2021 10:38 am

    Never do 7 pm starts ever again imo.

    • andeux andeux Feb 11,2021 11:11 am || Up

      I haven’t heard anything about what they’re planning to do about season tickets this year. It’s still partly out of their hands of course. By opening day maybe ~30% of population may be vaccinated, so it’s reasonable to think they could allow some fans in. Seems like a logistical nightmare from their point of view, with some people able to go to a full season of games, but a lot of us probably not able to attend until well into the summer.

      TINSTAAFK
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 11,2021 11:16 am || Up

        I just searched my inbox and it seems the last A’s Access-related email I received was in August. They still have my money though.

      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 11,2021 1:44 pm || Up

        They’d need to require and monitor proof of vaccination for every fan and staff person, which MLB says they won’t do. Short of that I can’t really imagine Alameda County giving permission for that scope of social congregation.

        I’m convinced that the only way we’ll get vax rates high enough to return to something pseudo-normal is through market forces like sports venues, airlines, etc. No vax, no entertainment. Let the vax skeptics in San Anselmo or Costa Mesa explain to their kids that their idiotic dangerous beliefs mean little Ashleigh can’t go to Disneyland.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • batgirl batgirl Feb 11,2021 11:43 am || Up

      Totally agree on no 7pm starts.

    • AV AV Feb 11,2021 12:39 pm || Up

      is 7pm too late?

      then what are all the pillows for??

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • Soaker Soaker Feb 13,2021 12:59 pm || Up

      There aren’t any Saturday night home games on the schedule. All are 1:07 starts except July 3 vs. the Red Sox, at 4:15 for Fox.

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  34. AV AV Feb 11,2021 12:53 pm

    GM bait.

    haven’t read it yet, but the comments so far are spicy.

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 11,2021 1:05 pm || Up

      The Shia LaBoeuf part……what??

    • andeux andeux Feb 11,2021 1:58 pm || Up

      They misspelled qfwfq.

      TINSTAAFK
      • AV AV Feb 11,2021 2:22 pm || Up

        only in the same way norman mailer would have.

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  35. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 11,2021 5:30 pm

    I want to chalk this up to the classic brand of WFAN bullshit I know and love, but…

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 11,2021 5:56 pm || Up

      Wow, Fisher really seems to want to push whether there is in fact any bottom level MLB won’t let a team sink to.

      Here I’ll spin a conspiracy theory: Fisher has a secret extra-serious cash problem. Tells MLB he won’t let payroll exceed worst case COVIDy revenue projection. MLB sees perfect time to let a team test how cheap they can actually be. Fans react in outrage, 2021 A’s lose 100 games, lowest TV/stream #s in history. Outraged fans go viral with performative public actions, EIR gets rejected by City amid acrimony. MLB’s position in scorched earth CBA talks is contraction, for which they’ll agree to a salary floor.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 11,2021 6:12 pm || Up

        {considers moving Soaker out of the top slot in the FK Cassandra Power Rankings for the first time in recent memory}

        I wonder if Kaval has ever suggested to Fisher that pissing away a winning team (and insulting a locally raised African American star in the process) is not ideal during the year they need to win a City Council vote that will determine the future value of his franchise.

        • Soaker Soaker Feb 12,2021 12:31 pm || Up

          I blame my issues on Charlie Finley, who, coming off three straight World Series victories, immediately ran the franchise into the ground over the same period I was going through my era of peak teenage cynicism.

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    • andeux andeux Feb 11,2021 6:10 pm || Up

      The middle ground is that it’s not complete BS, but it’s the usual thing where, sure, they will talk about a price for any player, but in this case that price is so prohibitively high that nothing will happen.

      While the full FSU conspiracy theory in all its glory seems like a bit of a stretch, there is probably something to the first part. Not only are the A’s off the revenue sharing dole, but Fisher’s other business being retail also puts him in a worse position than a lot of the other owners. (That’s all relatively speaking. He is still a rich man who could afford to spend some more money on his fking team.)

      TINSTAAFK
      • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 11,2021 6:15 pm || Up

        There is always a price, and i am not a prospect maven, but I can’t imagine a team has the depth to trade for someone like chapman.

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
  36. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 11,2021 5:51 pm

  37. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 11,2021 6:46 pm

    The El Camino Real Derby at Golden Gate Fields Saturday afternoon is a lower-level Derby prep. Sharks play in San Jose for the first time all season. A 19 year old kid shot -8 in 1st round at Pebble Beach today, not the Crosby Clambake without fans or Bill Murray, but I’ll watch some on this otherwise bleak sports weekend. That 100 loss 2021 A’s team is looking pretty damn entertaining right now.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • sslinger Feb 11,2021 9:39 pm || Up

      The Australian Open is up and running, Rafa could overtake Fed with 21 slams if he can dislodge Djokovic from his annual AO march while also keeping the young guns at bay, Jen Brady is the US player looking best so far as Kenin has already lost, and Brad Gilbert used “elevation sensation” in a description of an overhead slam and has already stated he’ll be watching the Warriors-Nets game during the Sat broadcast. Speaking of which, Dubs-Nets should be must see with Durant playing against the Dubs and Steph in scorch-mode the last few games.

      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 12,2021 9:14 am || Up

        I hear “elevation sensation” and I immediately picture Latrell Sprewell.

      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 19,2021 4:32 pm || Up

        Tim Roye has a new catch phrase when Mychal Mulder hits a three: “The truth is out there.”

  38. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 12,2021 8:57 am

    So the Pacific Coast League is now “Triple-A West.” Great.

    • 5Aces 5Aces Feb 12,2021 10:06 am || Up

      It’s only been around almost as long as the AL, why keep tradition??

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 12,2021 10:06 am || Up

      I don’t want to complain about process stuff and feelings, but this is testing me

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Soaker Soaker Feb 12,2021 10:12 am || Up

      The PDLs have 10-year terms now; the old Player Development Contracts used to be either 2 year or 4 year terms. So this setup should create more stable affiliations. OTOH, if you don’t think Las Vegas Ballpark is the best place for the A’s to be able to judge their AAA talent, too bad, they are there until 2030.

      Support locally made sausage!
  39. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 12,2021 9:03 am

    • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 12,2021 10:05 am || Up

      I certainly don’t know these people. seems like a fuckin meh trade

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • lenscrafters Feb 12,2021 11:17 am || Up

        Yeah I don’t really like this. Kolarek is a strict LOOGY, albeit very very good at it, which is obviously less valuable with the 3 batter rule.

        I’m with Aces in that Neuse wasn’t much, but I’m more concerned with the loss of Varland. He was very good with scouting reports to match before his TJS, and it feels like we’re selling low to a team that is well known for finding and fixing pitching gems.

        This is a higher price than what they paid to get Buchter a few years ago, and Buchter back then was known as a guy who could get both lefties and righties out.

        They could’ve solved the second lefty in the pen by simply spending ~2 million on a Tony Watson or something, but this is another case where not wanting to spend money leads to bleeding non negligible young talent to fix your problems instead.

    • 5Aces 5Aces Feb 12,2021 10:07 am || Up

      I wasnt a big Neuse fan but this guarantees he hits like .378 this year right?

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
      • andeux andeux Feb 12,2021 10:14 am || Up

        Me either, but Max Muncy 2.0 did cross my mind.

        TINSTAAFK
        • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 12,2021 11:10 am || Up

          Fisher’s not selling jeans here.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • ptbnl Feb 12,2021 1:15 pm || Up

            Not selling jeans anywhere, by all accounts.

            If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  40. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 12,2021 10:33 am

    • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 12,2021 11:35 am || Up

      what is the point then? I thought the idea was a) priming the revenue pump b) getting stadium operations going before opening day and c) getting used to big stadiums

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • Soaker Soaker Feb 12,2021 11:47 am || Up

        d) Giving the players a couple extra days to settle in to their in-season homes.

        It doesn’t seem to be a California thing because the Dodgers and Angels are playing their usual Freeway Series in LA and Anaheim.

        Support locally made sausage!
  41. elcroata elcroata Feb 13,2021 12:34 am

    The Bills lost, but Pegulas are still playing

    Because survival is insufficient
  42. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 13,2021 9:33 am

    Trump’s Impeachment II legal team is the comic relief I needed to get through the dog days of winter. You get what you don’t pay for I guess.

    • andeux andeux Feb 13,2021 10:47 am || Up

      Costing him, what, 0 votes?

      TINSTAAFK
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 13,2021 11:19 am || Up

        Pretty much. I’m viewing it more as an amusing spectacle.

        • andeux andeux Feb 13,2021 12:01 pm || Up

          Twitter seems awfully upset about Democrats agreeing not to call witnesses in order to change an additional 0 votes.

          TINSTAAFK
          • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 13,2021 12:20 pm || Up

            Yeah. I don’t get it either. I’d like to hear testimony, but the stakes just aren’t that high, and if Biden/Pelosi/Schumer want to get it over with to focus on legislating I can’t argue.

          • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 13,2021 3:31 pm || Up

            I think boxing the acquit votes into the “I vote on a procedural error” is fine. It makes the subsequent hearings a little easier to get sign off on “official reports.” Not that that will change any votes.

            The best outcome of this is getting the base riled up for 2022 which looks like a tough row to hoe for the house majority. That could be good. Maybe this gives manchin cover to nuke the filibuster.

            Keeping trump in power means we have a little longer till the Hawley-cruz battle.

            Overall, it all matters so little.

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 13,2021 1:04 pm || Up

        I can live with seven Republican votes for the historical record.

  43. Soaker Soaker Feb 14,2021 9:41 am

    It looks like a breezy but sunny day at Pebble Beach, a challenging day for a round of golf. It’s also a nice day for me to stay at home watching golf rather than doing battle with the invading holiday weekend hordes. Jordan Spieth, who hasn’t won a tournament since 2017, leads by 2 going into the final round, propelled by this nice shot on 16 on Saturday.

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    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 14,2021 10:21 am || Up

      Actually not so breezy, scores could go low today. I’m pulling for Jason Day, who’s also endured a long empty stretch since his last win.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Soaker Soaker Feb 14,2021 12:56 pm || Up

        Cal’s “other guy”, Max Homa, is in contention, and for Ed, UCLA’s Patrick Cantlay.

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        • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 14,2021 1:02 pm || Up

          Nine guys within three shots heading into the back nine, drama abounds.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 21,2021 3:09 pm || Up

          Homa just missed a three footer to win at Riviera, after a spectacular approach. Heading to playoff vs Tony Finau.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 21,2021 4:47 pm || Up

            Gets his first tour win, second playoff hole.

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
            • Soaker Soaker Feb 21,2021 8:41 pm || Up

              Just finished watching. Go Bears! I noticed Max still puts his green book in his Blue and Gold Cal Golf cover.

              He’s a LA-area kid who’s a big Dodgers and Lakers fan. Second tour win actually. This time he won’t be getting something he got after his first win, which was a congratulatory phone call from Tommy Lasorda.

              Support locally made sausage!
  44. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 14,2021 3:45 pm

    Interesting Athletic piece presenting the views of four anonymous agents on the A’s organization. This bit is another indicator that Fisher is acting extra-super duper broke right now.

    “I’ve heard good things about them on the arbitration side. My outside counsel advised me that the A’s were very friendly, and like to take care of their guys, but that was not the case this year. The negotiation wasn’t as pleasant. But you know, we’re in the middle of a pandemic and everybody is trying to shrink their payroll, so perhaps in a different year they would have been more flexible. But this year they were penny pinching all the way. But they have a good reputation in arbitration. Which makes sense, because they’re not a team signing a lot of players to extensions or playing in free agency, so I guess you have to be fair in arbitration, in the draft, in international signings. I had heard that they weren’t hard core trying to save every dollar but this year. They were trying to save every penny. At the end we were arguing over like, a few thousand dollars.

  45. andeux andeux Feb 14,2021 5:12 pm

    TINSTAAFK
  46. andeux andeux Feb 14,2021 5:34 pm

    TINSTAAFK
  47. AV AV Feb 15,2021 4:50 pm

    bekeley residents only, vax slots available:

    https://curative.com/sites/24548#9/37.8675/-122.2969

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 15,2021 6:29 pm || Up

      Thanks for the tip. When the reach my tier I expect appts will be hard to get, 65+, ed/childcare providers, grocery/bodega workers for now.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • andeux andeux Feb 15,2021 6:47 pm || Up

        I’ve been trying to figure out when people like me (tier omega) can reasonably hope to get a shot.

        Estimates still seem to vary wildly:

        Fauci has suggested that it may be “open season” as soon as April.
        Pfizer and Moderna have each contracted to deliver 200M doses by end of May.
        Someone today said that we could hope for herd immunity (70% vaccinated or having had the dissease) by July 4.
        Pfizer and Moderna have each contracted to deliver 300M doses (together roughly enough for everyone in the country) by end of July.
        Various people have said it could be into fall before many people are able to get a shot.

        Right now the main bottleneck seems to be availability, rather than distribution, plus the distribution capabilities should only improve as we go along, so I figure some time in June might be realistic. Really hope it is not as late as September.

        TINSTAAFK
        • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 15,2021 10:25 pm || Up

          More supply will obviously be great but I’m not convinced the distribution chain is ready to handle scaling up. It’s so horribly negligent and maddening, we knew we’d need to give shots everywhere in a massive endeavor and the previous regime couldn’t even get some competent logistics people on the case last summer.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • AV AV Feb 16,2021 8:43 am || Up

            i have an appt on thursday and when i was signing up allllll the slots from thursday onward in february looked available.

            logistical competence is a two way street. please give it a try at http://myturn.ca.gov

            *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  48. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 16,2021 11:54 am

    82 wins, third place, 1.1% chance to win the whole damn thing per fangraphs projections.

  49. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 16,2021 12:10 pm

    Really don’t understand the point of turning “CBS All Access” into “Paramount+” The CBS brand is that bad?

    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 16,2021 12:13 pm || Up

      (Relatedly, the Champions League is back!)

      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 16,2021 1:13 pm || Up

        Mbappe best player in the world right now? Discuss.

        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 16,2021 1:43 pm || Up

          Oh my

          • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 16,2021 4:34 pm || Up

            Mbappe had a pretty good day.

            Glad to see it’s not just American announcers who run the narrative thing into the ground. yeesh.

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • 5Aces 5Aces Feb 16,2021 12:47 pm || Up

      My guess is CBS isnt as known internationally? But yeah seems pointless to me.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 16,2021 12:59 pm || Up

        Could be, but for now their key rights are US only (Champions League and Star Trek). Maybe they see this as necessary to sell global subscriptions for Young Sheldon.

        • andeux andeux Feb 16,2021 1:40 pm || Up

          Or maybe when people hear “CBS” they think it is just the stuff they already get on the network TV channel for free.

          TINSTAAFK
          • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 16,2021 1:44 pm || Up

            That’s probably right. People think it’s just the thing CBS makes you pay for if you want to watch their NFL games on your phone.

          • 5Aces 5Aces Feb 16,2021 2:41 pm || Up

            That actually makes sense. I think when I looked recently they also had a bunch of like Comedy Central and other stuff that I didnt remember them having before and would not have looked for there.

            Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  50. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 16,2021 2:58 pm
  51. andeux andeux Feb 17,2021 9:33 am

    Yikes x2

    TINSTAAFK
  52. Future Ed Future Ed Feb 17,2021 8:16 pm

    this one hits a little too close to home

    I have $5. No I don\'t.

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