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Home Fifth: The L Word 87

Kotsay might be thinking of a different home fifth. In his playing days he was known as a wine guy; I gotta imagine it’s straight hard liquor now.

It was inevitable that we’d be talking about losing this year. Riding an eight game losing streak, returning home for two series against very strong teams, then heading back out on the road…I think its time to guess just how long the longest Oakland As losing streak of 2023 will be. And is this even it, or is the nadir yet to come?

Some context:

• In the modern era (sorry, Spiders fans) the MLB record is 23 straight L’s by the 1961 Phillies.
• “Honorable” mention to the second place 1988 Orioles, who *only* lost 21 straight, but did it to open the season, very nearly going 0-fer-April.
• The Athletics franchise appears twice in MLB’s top ten list, in 1916 and 1943. Connie Mack is a fine role model / aspirational goal for Kotsay.
• If you want to include the olden days, the all-time record is 26 losses, by the 1889 Louisville Colonels. That team has numerous entries in wikipedia’s list, so I dub them the Losingest. They once lost five games in two days, a mark that even today’s Athletics are unlikely to challenge.

"Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."

87 thoughts on “Home Fifth: The L Word

  1. Future Ed May 26,2023 6:51 pm

    A hit!

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade May 26,2023 8:32 pm || Up

      [six innings later] Another hit!

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Future Ed May 26,2023 8:33 pm || Up

        and seth brown!

        If only there were a position where his bad defense wouldnt be a factor

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
  2. FreeSeatUpgrade May 26,2023 7:02 pm

    With a day off for Ken Johnny D. moves back into the TV chair.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  3. Future Ed May 26,2023 7:22 pm

    Pro tip: get altuve out more

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  4. Future Ed May 26,2023 7:26 pm

    Can seth brown be -10 runs defensively in 9 left field innings?

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade May 26,2023 7:28 pm || Up

      The way this team allows runs, absolutely yes

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  5. FreeSeatUpgrade May 26,2023 7:29 pm

    This is one of the uglier A’s innings you’ll see, and that’s really saying something.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  6. Future Ed May 26,2023 7:29 pm

    oh my. from the first pitch on this has been a comedic defensive game

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  7. andeux May 27,2023 9:59 am

    Bets on whether Hogan Harris can improve his ERA?

    TINSTAAFK
    • ptbnl May 27,2023 10:46 am || Up

      Assuming so, which will see the biggest improvement – his ERA or his WHIP?

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • ptbnl May 27,2023 5:08 pm || Up

        WHIP dropped by a factor of 12, ERA by almost 16.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade May 27,2023 12:23 pm || Up

      He damn well better or he’ll get sent to the Klink.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • FreeSeatUpgrade May 27,2023 1:24 pm || Up

      Pruitt made an early bid to challenge in the race toward an infinite ERA.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • FreeSeatUpgrade May 27,2023 2:47 pm || Up

      Dropped it from 162.00 to 10.13 and got himself a much happier MLB memory, good for you kid.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  8. FreeSeatUpgrade May 27,2023 12:28 pm

    It’s Henry Kissinger’s 100th birthday, proving irrefutably that there’s no such thing as karmic justice, and also probably that he’s an alien.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • ptbnl May 27,2023 1:00 pm || Up

      In a choose-your-superpower discussion yesterday I settled on the ability to invoke instant karma, good or bad.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  9. Future Ed May 27,2023 1:51 pm

    Has there been a bigger mid season upgrade than kuiper to doskow/cotroneo?

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade May 27,2023 1:55 pm || Up

      It’s like the Milton Bradley acquisition all over again.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  10. Future Ed May 28,2023 10:54 am

    Relegation day is the best day in sports

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • ptbnl May 28,2023 12:08 pm || Up

      From Champions League to Championship in 7 seasons.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • elcroata May 28,2023 2:24 pm || Up

      My home team’s — VfB Stuttgart — regular season is over and they still don’t know if they are relegated or not. In Germany, the third worst team from 1st Bundesliga and the third best from the 2nd play it out in a home and home series. This year it’s Stuttgart and HSV, both multiple ex-champions

      Because survival is insufficient
  11. Future Ed May 28,2023 1:52 pm

    Walking the bases loaded on a pitch clock violation to get to Alverez was a genius move.

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  12. Future Ed May 28,2023 2:10 pm

    I call him home run medina.

    Bummer about the seeing eye single and the 50 foot topper single before it

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  13. Future Ed May 28,2023 3:26 pm

    You don’t need to tell me that this stanek guy went to university of arkansas johnny, his hair tells me that

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  14. ptbnl May 28,2023 3:58 pm

    17th double-digit runs against gets them to -199 and on a pace for -586, two-thirds as bad again as the modern record.

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • ptbnl May 28,2023 4:02 pm || Up

      Put another way, at this rate they’ll beat the record with 65 games to spare.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  15. Glorious Mundy May 28,2023 8:31 pm

    Huh, Chad Pinder retired. He could presumably play for this team but why bother.

  16. ptbnl May 29,2023 10:41 am

    Atlanta’s turn to pad their run differential … the Rays are +26 just from their games against the AAs and the Rangers +32.

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • Future Ed May 29,2023 11:23 am || Up

      would the A’s run differential be better if they faced the A’s?

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • ptbnl May 29,2023 12:07 pm || Up

        The resistable force meets the movable object.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  17. Soaker May 29,2023 3:01 pm

    If a legislative committee meeting sounds more exciting than watching the 2023 A’s get hammered by Matt Olson, Sean Murphy and the rest of the Atlanta Braves, here’s your hearing on SB 509 starting at 4 p.m. There’s no Memorial Day Monday holiday for a legislature that’s up against deadline.

    Treacherous chasms of half-truth and despair. -- Ken Korach
    • FreeSeatUpgrade May 29,2023 3:33 pm || Up

      I’ll be rooting for the crushing miserable defeat and sadness of Boston Celtics fans.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Glorious Mundy May 29,2023 6:28 pm || Up

        Shaping up nicely

      • Glorious Mundy May 29,2023 7:42 pm || Up

        This is more sadness than I dared hope for

        • FreeSeatUpgrade May 29,2023 7:45 pm || Up

          I’m so glad I never outgrew enjoying this feeling.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • nevermoor May 30,2023 9:02 am || Up

            One of the best things about sports, since your favorite team usually doesn’t win it all.

            Nuggets are going to run away with this, though.

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • Soaker May 29,2023 4:37 pm || Up

      Projected Opening Day has already been pushed back to 2028.

      Treacherous chasms of half-truth and despair. -- Ken Korach
      • Glorious Mundy May 29,2023 5:04 pm || Up

        Drop the bill on Friday, hold the hearing on Memorial Day. They must be very proud of it.

    • Soaker May 29,2023 6:39 pm || Up

      The Assembly Speaker wants to know how badly the projections of attendance and interest by locals (they are saying 70% local fans and 30% out-of-town average per game, with near sellouts of every game) would be affected if the team sucks.

      Most of the questions are about detailed tax issues.

      Treacherous chasms of half-truth and despair. -- Ken Korach
      • Soaker May 29,2023 7:10 pm || Up

        LOL “(the aging existing Tropicana) is the A’s of the Strip”. (Question was about opportunity cost of doing a ballpark on the site vs. some other development that would undoubtedly come along on that prime real estate if the ballpark project weren’t done.)

        Treacherous chasms of half-truth and despair. -- Ken Korach
    • Soaker May 29,2023 8:02 pm || Up

      As expected, my overall sense of it is there’s a healthy amount of skepticism among the committee members who were asking the questions, but any Vegas Democrat who votes against it would get a lot of blowback from the unions down there, and they have a lot of say in the political process.

      Treacherous chasms of half-truth and despair. -- Ken Korach
      • Soaker May 30,2023 9:12 am || Up

        Here’s the Independent’s summary of the hearing.

        Treacherous chasms of half-truth and despair. -- Ken Korach
        • Glorious Mundy May 30,2023 9:23 am || Up

          “Today was not the day for a dog and pony show,” said one A’s representative who asked not to be named. A’s President Dave Kaval and team owner John Fisher, are expected to be in Carson City later this week to meet with lawmakers.

          I guess someone has decided that the chances of this bill going through are lower the more it is publicly associated with current A’s ownership.

          Assemblywoman Daniele Monroe-Moreno (D-North Las Vegas), who chairs the powerful Ways and Means Committee, said outright she would oppose the bill as-is. If the bill advances out of the Senate, it will have to pass through the committee she chairs before reaching the Assembly floor.

          “I’m just going to put it out there — I’m at a no,” Monroe-Moreno said. “Almost a hell no. So y’all have to get me to a yes.”

          Monroe-Moreno also cited the A’s fanbase hostility toward the owner of the A’s and asked presenters how the bill would ensure the team works to benefit the community.

          And we thought our hostility wasn’t doing anything.

          Hill said the Tropicana would be demolished regardless of the outcome of the bill. But because of that demolition, any construction timeline would stretch over five full years.

          That doesn’t sound like it matches with a 2028 opening.

          • Soaker May 30,2023 11:21 am || Up

            There were a number of questions about that community benefits agreement aspects of the bill in Section 23, and also the homelessness fund in Section 20. The bill’s language is vague and so were the answers from the A’s consultant: “It’s stuff where we’ll work out the details later.”

            Ms. Monroe-Moreno was the most openly hostile person on the committee, with others seeming dubious. I don’t think there was any “hell yes” in there.

            It’s the union push that will get this thing through if it does, along with some GOP with no particular reason to support it going along with their Governor (his chief of staff spoke in favor and his Office of Economic Development is also behind it).

            Treacherous chasms of half-truth and despair. -- Ken Korach
  18. FreeSeatUpgrade May 29,2023 5:11 pm

    Blackburn and Bride back, and the Jesus Aguillar experience has mercifully ended.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  19. FreeSeatUpgrade May 29,2023 5:19 pm

    Murphy drives in Olson with the game-winning run to open the first inning.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  20. Future Ed May 29,2023 6:46 pm

    Ramon has had some pretty good at bats when I assumed he would just swing to destroy baseballs

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  21. FreeSeatUpgrade May 29,2023 7:17 pm

    The arc of Olson’s swing pefectly timing a ball into obliion is one of the prettiest sights in sport.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  22. Future Ed May 29,2023 7:44 pm

    Never in doubt

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  23. FreeSeatUpgrade May 29,2023 7:48 pm

    Unstreaked!

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  24. Soaker May 30,2023 5:16 pm

    The first RSN domino falls.

    (Television rights revert to the Padres and MLB takes over the telecasts beginning) Wednesday, with free streaming through the end of the weekend on MLB’s apps, at MLB.com and Padres.com. MLB is working through direct-to-consumer streaming subscription options for after the weekend and has already secured deals with local cable networks to carry Padres games.

    Channel lineups will be announced shortly.

    An important byproduct of this landmark development: the local blackout policy will be lifted in San Diego.

    The Padres’ on-screen broadcast teams will also remain in place as they are team employees.

    What happens with the Padres seems likely to be a template for several other teams later this season and for the A’s possibly as soon as 2024, whether they are in Oakland or Vegas.

    Treacherous chasms of half-truth and despair. -- Ken Korach
    • Glorious Mundy May 30,2023 5:20 pm || Up

      Is MLB going to be producing the Padres telecasts itself?

      • Soaker May 30,2023 7:06 pm || Up

        Yes, that’s their plan for all teams where the RSN contracts are terminated.

        Treacherous chasms of half-truth and despair. -- Ken Korach
    • Soaker May 31,2023 10:29 am || Up

      So here’s the template. The way it’s going to work for the Padres is, they will put the games on dedicated channels on the major cable companies plus DirecTV in their market. If you want to watch legally via MLB.tv in-market you have to buy a separate single-team subscription for Padres games, even you have a full subscription for the out-of-market games.

      So if you lived in the Padres market and wanted an all-30 package without blackouts, and were paying full price for everything from the start of the season, it would be $139.99 for all the out-of-market games plus $119.99 for the Padres games = $259.98. With 1/3 of the season past they are currently offering the Padres package for $74.99 for the rest of 2023, a small discount vs. the alternate $19.99/month charge for that.

      Treacherous chasms of half-truth and despair. -- Ken Korach
  25. Soaker May 30,2023 7:05 pm

    I wouldn’t mind a quick hit tonight. It looked like the A’s poked the bear last night, so tonight might be a strong candidate for an early *click*.

    Treacherous chasms of half-truth and despair. -- Ken Korach
    • Soaker May 30,2023 7:34 pm || Up

      Hmmm, quick hit not forthcoming.

      Treacherous chasms of half-truth and despair. -- Ken Korach
      • Future Ed May 30,2023 7:43 pm || Up

        Have a good night thanks to Ramon!

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
  26. ptbnl May 30,2023 7:28 pm

    The AAs cleanup hitter has the same OPS as the Oakland area code.

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • andeux May 30,2023 7:40 pm || Up

      Not any more. Quick, ship him to New Brunswick.

      TINSTAAFK
      • Soaker May 30,2023 8:26 pm || Up

        We used to think Kendallburg was a sad little town but it looks a little nicer with each passing year.

        Treacherous chasms of half-truth and despair. -- Ken Korach
  27. FreeSeatUpgrade May 30,2023 7:52 pm

    While in the car briefly just now I learned from Ken that JP Sears is considered the best golfer in the A’s clubhouse.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  28. Future Ed May 30,2023 8:00 pm

    Ruiz is living to the left of Riley.

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  29. Future Ed May 30,2023 8:21 pm

    the bunting a’s

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  30. Future Ed May 30,2023 8:29 pm
    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  31. Soaker May 30,2023 8:31 pm

    Kotsay just made the “Arrow Exterminators Call to the Bullpen” on Braves radio, which seems like it would be more appropriate as an A’s sponsorship.

    Treacherous chasms of half-truth and despair. -- Ken Korach
  32. Future Ed May 30,2023 8:36 pm

    Snitker was granted time before Ruiz got to first. Is that a pace of play rule?

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  33. ptbnl May 30,2023 8:44 pm

    Ruiz just needs a TOOTBLAN to complete the hat-trick

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  34. FreeSeatUpgrade May 30,2023 9:02 pm

    OK let’s see that Jonah Bride magic.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  35. FreeSeatUpgrade May 30,2023 9:04 pm

    High absurdity value walk-off!

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  36. Soaker May 30,2023 9:06 pm

    They won’t win many season series. That’s a surprising one.

    Treacherous chasms of half-truth and despair. -- Ken Korach
    • ptbnl May 30,2023 10:50 pm || Up

      They get to go for the sweep tomorrow!

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • Future Ed May 31,2023 1:45 pm || Up

        just tuned in. SOrry guys. was going well before hand

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
  37. Glorious Mundy May 31,2023 2:12 pm

    Las Vegas runs on tourists. Fisher, the owner of the presumptive Las Vegas Athletics, would like to cater to them. He has pondered whether his A’s should start home games at 4 p.m., the better for tourists to catch a game in the afternoon and a show at night.

    • Future Ed May 31,2023 2:35 pm || Up

      He wants to run a washington generals so that the tourists can go to the casinos happy

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • FreeSeatUpgrade May 31,2023 4:41 pm || Up

        This strategy is working great for Mark Davis

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • Soaker May 31,2023 5:40 pm || Up

          I’ve been thinking, we have silver and black Commitment to Excellence license plates (which I see a ton of), plus Golden Knights (quite a few), UNLV and UNR (not many) plates. I’m going to have to decide if I want a green and gold A’s plate. If the slogan is “Rooted in Vegas”, probably not.

          Treacherous chasms of half-truth and despair. -- Ken Korach
  38. Future Ed May 31,2023 2:38 pm

    this series has exposed the A’s positioning. They are giving up a lot of hits that the braves are not.

    It’s a naked eye observation, of course so I could be all wrong, but it continues a patter I have believed in the past few years. I would guess they don’t have many people working on that in their analytics department.

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  39. Glorious Mundy Jun 1,2023 12:11 pm

    Amen, John Shea

    It’s easy to be Dodgers fans. Yankees fans. Giants fans. They have nice ballparks. They promote their product. They sell flashy merchandise. They’re proud of their cities. They do things that suggest they’re trying to win. They’re fan friendly.

    It’s tough being A’s fans. It’s tough supporting a team that Fisher has ruined in a stadium that Fisher has ignored in a town that Fisher has betrayed. It’s tough enduring all the nonsense that A’s fans have endured all these years and still care so deeply for what could be the worst team in MLB history.

    That at least 2,000 show up every game is not a debacle. It’s a miracle. That fans still would purchase overpriced tickets despite all the forces that suggest DON’T DO IT is a remarkable testament to a one-sided faith that should be applauded.

    • Soaker Jun 1,2023 7:32 pm || Up

      JMHO on that last part:

      That fans still would purchase overpriced tickets despite all the forces that suggest DON’T DO IT is a remarkable testament to a one-sided blind faith that should be applauded treated.

      Treacherous chasms of half-truth and despair. -- Ken Korach
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 2,2023 10:14 am || Up

        That’s pretty much what being a hardcore sports fan is. Always a one-sided commitment. The team will never love you back as much (and the owners not at all). A fan makes their peace with that, or moves on.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  40. FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 1,2023 2:31 pm

    Steve Garvey considering GOP run for Feinstein seat in 2024. Presumably to capitalize on the Republicans newfound belief that serial adultery and out-of-wedlock procreation are just fine.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Glorious Mundy Jun 1,2023 4:36 pm || Up

      Steve Garvey’s face is exactly what I picture when I hear the words “California Republican”

      • FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 1,2023 5:37 pm || Up

        He’s 74 now. You’d think at least one of these parties would move away from gerontocracy, but so far no.

        Also, Steve Garvey is 74 now, holy crap I’m old.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • Future Ed Jun 1,2023 6:54 pm || Up

          Remember when Cindy Garvey left him for Marvin Hamlisch?

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Soaker Jun 1,2023 4:39 pm || Up

      Tough for him to win that CA Senate seat, but it puts his name in the hat for a Cabinet post in the Trump-Tuberville administration. “He won four Gold Gloves so I think he will make an outstanding Secretary of Defense.”

      Treacherous chasms of half-truth and despair. -- Ken Korach

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