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In the hands of uncreative people, that would be a recipe for laziness and mediocrity 241

  1. O RLY, Mitt?
  2. O RLY, Rick?
  3. Have you seen the 2012 A’s? There’s no way they’ll be the good one!
  4. Ogando back to the pen
  5. “I changed the world with my inferior products.”
    /beane

    (Also, taglined: Innovators in the field of mediocrity.)

    MY certainly isn’t wrong about the foodstuffs, argument, but he goes entirely OTT McMeganesque with the healthcare comment at the end.

241 thoughts on “In the hands of uncreative people, that would be a recipe for laziness and mediocrity

  1. monkeyball Mar 29,2012 11:37 am
    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • MikeV Mar 29,2012 11:40 am || Up

      True. They traded Ryan Sweeney AND Andrew Bailey.

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

    • grover Mar 29,2012 1:17 pm || Up

      And by that she meant…?

      • Poppy Mar 29,2012 1:22 pm || Up

        I wondered that, too. I guess because Sweeney doesn’t homer? (much… does Reddick?)

        There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
      • whiteshoes40 Mar 29,2012 4:12 pm || Up

        She was talking about this several weeks ago and explained it more then. Basically, one scout said that Reddick was the equivalent of Sweeney (no power, etc.), so the A’s were trading one Sweeney to get another of the same type. After seeing Reddick hit, Slusser disagrees — she says that Reddick is the opposite of Sweeney, in that he is smaller but has power (whereas my long-lost Ryan is taller but has no power).

  2. monkeyball Mar 29,2012 11:44 am
    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  3. monkeyball Mar 29,2012 12:04 pm

    Why do we remain fans of REM the A’s?

    Because we will feel guilty if we don’t. It will make us “fair-weather” fans, and that is unacceptable. We will have betrayed something that has given us so much pleasure. These things deserve more than that. Our pretend relationships have to be honored. We made a vow, if only in our own hearts.

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • sslinger Mar 29,2012 2:14 pm || Up

      Interesting piece, I’ll look forward to the rest of the cycle. BTW, have you read Juliet, Naked? His discussion of the relationship of a rock star to his/their fans made me think of it.

      • monkeyball Mar 29,2012 2:17 pm || Up

        Nope. Looks interesting.

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
        • sslinger Mar 29,2012 2:21 pm || Up

          I enjoyed it, but then I like most everything Hornby writes. If you want to borrow it I can bring to opening day or 4/21.

          • Leopold Bloom Mar 29,2012 2:23 pm || Up

            Hornsby? That’s just the way it is. Some things will never change.

            • 5Aces Mar 29,2012 2:36 pm || Up

              Hornsby? I hate guys with an extra “s” on their first name, but I would take a 2B that hits .380+ every year…

              Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
              • Leopold Bloom Mar 29,2012 2:38 pm || Up

                That’s just the way it is. Some things will never change.

  4. MikeV Mar 29,2012 12:08 pm

    ..and you can go FK yourself, San Diego

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

  5. monkeyball Mar 29,2012 12:46 pm

    Aaaaand I beat National Review to the (unintentional) joke.

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • dmoas Mar 29,2012 1:56 pm || Up

      Yeah… there’s nothing visually on that video that could even be used to ID the guy let alone what injuries he may have had.

  6. colin Mar 29,2012 1:04 pm

    3. Just this morning, I was thinking about how game recaps are something that I don’t miss at all from the OC, because they generally didn’t contain anything that I couldn’t get with less effort from a box score. Jeff’s recaps, on the other hand…

    • Leopold Bloom Mar 29,2012 2:11 pm || Up

      I’m thinking of starting to comment over there again.

      • dmoas Mar 29,2012 2:16 pm || Up

        I’m thinking of spending the next three hours listening to my stomach.

        • Leopold Bloom Mar 29,2012 2:21 pm || Up

          Better than the twenty minutes you spent listening to mine outside that bar in Crockett?

          • dmoas Mar 29,2012 2:40 pm || Up

            I don’t know. I’m a little scared. My throat also gurgles so I think my body is plotting against me.

            • Leopold Bloom Mar 29,2012 2:41 pm || Up

              …kind of like that night in Crockett!

        • Leopold Bloom Mar 29,2012 2:22 pm || Up

          …and if you saved half your oatmeal from breakfast in a baggie and brought it with you to work like Bloom, you wouldn’t have that problem.

          • dmoas Mar 29,2012 2:41 pm || Up

            It’s not hunger noises. I had just eaten and it just wouldn’t shut up about it.

            • Leopold Bloom Mar 29,2012 2:56 pm || Up

              hmmm. well, you’re clearly going to die. I advise you to make peace with whatever deity you believe in.

      • elcroata Mar 29,2012 2:27 pm || Up

        OC or LL?

        Because survival is insufficient
          • dmoas Mar 29,2012 2:42 pm || Up

            I approve. For what little that might be worth. I’m totally cool with patronizing good peoples.

            • Leopold Bloom Mar 29,2012 2:57 pm || Up

              I lof Jeff.

              • MikeV Mar 29,2012 3:10 pm || Up

                I say we just lure him here.

                And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

                Thanks, and go As.

                • dmoas Mar 29,2012 3:14 pm || Up

                  Good call. He can even talk M’s here if he felt like it.

          • elcroata Mar 29,2012 2:44 pm || Up

            Sure

            Because survival is insufficient
          • PDXAthleticsfan Mar 29,2012 3:06 pm || Up

            I think it’s fine. I still comment at the NU site, mostly because it’s the only blog out there and it’s a small enough community that they haven’t had to flex any bANiNation muscles.

            A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
      • Dial C for Concupiscence (UM) Mar 29,2012 2:33 pm || Up

        I’ve been considering starting. I have been reading it pretty often.

        • Leopold Bloom Mar 29,2012 2:36 pm || Up

          I’ve had an account for a few years.

          When I was a high fallutin’ sign executive, I offered them banners for cost, but they took it as me trying to scam them, I think…

          • SPWC Mar 29,2012 2:50 pm || Up

            Maybe they were thinking outside of the box… thinking that the letters didn’t actually imply words…

            \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
            • Leopold Bloom Mar 29,2012 2:57 pm || Up

              hmmm. No, they just seemed generally hostile for the most part. Some of them realized I was just being nice, but…no one took me up on the offer.

            • AV Mar 29,2012 3:25 pm || Up

              mock me! (i like it.)

              *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
              • SPWC Mar 29,2012 3:46 pm || Up

                I wasn’t mocking you… I was mocking whoever made that joke/problem/thought experiment.

                Your arguments in that thread make a lot of sense. It’s just that there are some things that shouldn’t be joked about. Without basic implied meanings, we wouldn’t exist and dolphins would have rightfully taken over the world (whistles and clips longingly for a better alternate reality…)

                \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
                • the llama Mar 29,2012 9:42 pm || Up

                  Dolphins ain’t taking over anything without opposable thumbs and durable goods.

                • elcroata Mar 30,2012 12:09 am || Up

                  A good friend of mine was born without thumbs. She has five fingers on each hand but the fifth one is not an opposable thumb, but more of another pinky in its place. Her daughter was born like that, too

                  Because survival is insufficient
                • elcroata Mar 30,2012 7:03 am || Up

                  It took me quite a while to notice, though

                  Because survival is insufficient
                • the llama Mar 30,2012 11:42 pm || Up

                  If I knew someone like that, I’d either a) stay away for fear that I would crack wise and offend them or b) get to know them really well so I could crack wise and it would be all good.

                • 5Aces Apr 2,2012 8:01 am || Up

                  This. A kid in the neighborhood we just moved from was born with six fingers on one hand. When Lil Miss Ace pointed it out it became the hardest thing in the world not to walk up to him every time and say “give me six!”.

                  He was a nice enough kid and I didn’t want to be an a$$ so I had to learn some self control. But Once I knew he was also 6 years old I couldn’t resist the urge to give him a baseball nickname and thus he was “Big Six” from that point on.

                  Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
                • MikeV Apr 2,2012 8:07 am || Up

                  And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

                  Thanks, and go As.

                • AV Apr 2,2012 10:23 am || Up

                  so your nickname/handle means you have 5 middle fingers?

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • 5Aces Apr 2,2012 1:41 pm || Up

                  5 hands each with one finger only.

                  and, since my sarcasm filter is not working today, here is the real reason:

                  Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
                • Glorious Mundy Apr 2,2012 1:45 pm || Up

                  Brian Kingman made that cover how?

                • 5Aces Apr 2,2012 1:54 pm || Up

                  He started off the season with 3 of the better starts of his career and he was the WP to get us to 10-0 to start the season with a complete game shutout over the M’s. But I really think it was simply that he was starting and the whole idea was how the Billyball team was such a throwback and the starters were completing games, etc.

                  I actually had never seen the original article until after the fact. The first I had ever heard of it was in a follow up issue (I actually think it was the 4/1 issue that had the Sidd Finch story) a few years later with all of the pitchers out of baseball and injured.

                  Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
                • Future Ed Apr 2,2012 3:35 pm || Up

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • MikeV Apr 2,2012 3:37 pm || Up

                  …and then there was one

                  And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

                  Thanks, and go As.

                • nevermoor Apr 2,2012 4:18 pm || Up

                  Still… best twitter icon ever.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • nevermoor Mar 29,2012 2:47 pm || Up

      MB: how did you not use this as your pull quote?!? (?!?!?!?!?! (??!!!111))

      Bartolo Colon strikes me as probably a very unsuccessful flirter

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  7. SPWC Mar 29,2012 1:16 pm

    Is anyone by chance interested in buying a 3 foot (approx 1 meter) tall mixed media statue of a clown barfing in the tank of a toilet, pissing in the deck, and squatting over the open mouth of a severed Kewpie doll head?

    \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
    • monkeyball Mar 29,2012 1:37 pm || Up

      #mikeA bait

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • SPWC Mar 29,2012 1:59 pm || Up

        that mikeA fellow musta been a cool cat…

        …either that or batshit insane like me…

        \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
    • Englishmajor Mar 29,2012 3:10 pm || Up

      We call it…the Aristocrats!

      • SPWC Mar 29,2012 3:23 pm || Up

        and for $500, it could be all yours!

        \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
  8. PDXAthleticsfan Mar 29,2012 1:27 pm
    A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
    • SPWC Mar 29,2012 1:41 pm || Up

      A shitload of those people used real names… real Googlable names, which lead to addresses and employers and facebook accounts…

      With just a little bit of knowledge and a lot of deviousness, one could really ruin some of those cats’ lives, without them ever finding out who did it…

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
    • dmoas Mar 29,2012 2:00 pm || Up

      #ToMyUnbornChild If you become a bigoted douchebag, I’ll probably just disown you.

    • the llama Mar 29,2012 9:44 pm || Up

      Pretty much all young men.

  9. AV Mar 29,2012 1:55 pm

    way to go, bilbao.

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • elcroata Mar 29,2012 2:25 pm || Up

      aupa athletic!

      Because survival is insufficient
      • Leopold Bloom Mar 29,2012 2:26 pm || Up

        Gentlemen, please: English only at these tables.

        • dmoas Mar 29,2012 2:43 pm || Up

          Um… why is it that we’re now the only two at this table? It’s not because we’re all snuggled up together is it?

          • Leopold Bloom Mar 29,2012 2:58 pm || Up

            blackballing bastards.

            • dmoas Mar 29,2012 3:00 pm || Up

              I know, right? It’s not like we’re totally naked or anything.

              • Leopold Bloom Mar 29,2012 3:09 pm || Up

                thank god for fezzes.

                • dmoas Mar 29,2012 3:15 pm || Up

                  I’m still shocked we found two in green & gold and big enough to fit on top of our heads.

  10. Glorious Mundy Mar 29,2012 2:26 pm

    • Leopold Bloom Mar 29,2012 2:37 pm || Up

      Sonoma State!

      • dmoas Mar 29,2012 2:50 pm || Up

        Hey baby, wanna play with my radar gun?

    • Tutu-late Mar 29,2012 2:44 pm || Up

      Wow! Wuth thet tipe of intents trainin’, we don’t need no advamced stuttestical analis.

    • DFA Mar 29,2012 3:56 pm || Up

      Like Adam a lot. Smart dude. Have talked with him pretty extensively.

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
  11. JediLeroy Mar 29,2012 4:43 pm

    The air conditioning unit in this building is a deafeningly pulsating B flat. If I had my keyboard with me, I’d freestyle a melody to go with it. As it is, everyone around me will have to settle for my own voice mimicking the sounds of a bagpipe.

    az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
    • oblique Mar 29,2012 9:49 pm || Up

      I totally do that every time I vacuum.

      • JediLeroy Mar 29,2012 10:06 pm || Up

        Ha! Me too.

        az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
      • dmoas Mar 30,2012 11:09 am || Up

        I go deaf as a result of the vacuum. It hits a frequency that my ears can’t manage properly the results of which all other noises fades. Same thing with the engine on a plane.

        • AV Mar 30,2012 11:23 am || Up

          destructive interference?

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
          • monkeyball Mar 30,2012 11:23 am || Up

            15 yards, loss of down

            you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  12. dmoas Mar 29,2012 4:58 pm
    • colin Mar 29,2012 5:39 pm || Up

      It’s still HSR… FKingHSR

      • dmoas Mar 29,2012 5:41 pm || Up

        HST, not HSR. And 100 billion would be absolutely worth being on the ground floor of making that happen.

        • colin Mar 29,2012 5:45 pm || Up

          Oh yeah, it’s maglev… so no rail, I guess. What’s the T for? train?

            • Future Ed Mar 29,2012 7:40 pm || Up

              mono means one and rail means rail

              I have $5. No I don\'t.
              • AV Mar 29,2012 7:43 pm || Up

                well sir, there’s nothing on earth like a genuine bona fide electrified six-car monorail.

                *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • Future Ed Mar 29,2012 7:48 pm || Up

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • nevermoor Mar 29,2012 5:41 pm || Up

      Didn’t we talk about that here once and determine that it would be a practical impossibility to build/maintain.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • dmoas Mar 29,2012 5:43 pm || Up

        Maybe today.

      • colin Mar 29,2012 5:47 pm || Up

        I would totally put this in the category of established technology, just really expensive to build at this kind of scale. But I don’t think I was around for the discussion you refer to, so I might be overlooking something that makes it impossible.

      • Future Ed Mar 29,2012 7:45 pm || Up

        yes, the llama had lots to say. I trust his opinion.

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • the llama Mar 29,2012 7:58 pm || Up

          I do work on a project that ihas accomplished impossible engineering and is tasked with accomplishing impossible science. So I may not be right guy to ask.

          • Future Ed Mar 29,2012 8:02 pm || Up

            I am pretty sure that is what you said. Its “possible” but the energy needed and something else makes it centuries away, I think

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
            • the llama Mar 29,2012 9:18 pm || Up

              Here’s what I said.

              • dmoas Mar 30,2012 11:31 am || Up

                Suppose you weren’t trying for top speed, accounting for some drag, that should only affect the overall speed, not necessarily the viability, no? Shooting for say, 500 – 1000mph instead of the full 4000mph? That’s not to say the other issues there on that list that wouldn’t need to be addressed, but possible?

                • lenscrafters Mar 30,2012 11:34 am || Up

                  500-1000 mph is roughly the speed of current airliners.

                • dmoas Mar 30,2012 11:42 am || Up

                  And yet people don’t have a problem building a system that’s half the speed of that? And if you start with that, you can continue to fine-tune the system to continue to build more speed into which isn’t particularly easy to do with planes. Add in the fuel/energy costs. If you can match a plane and be cheaper and more environmentally?

                • lenscrafters Mar 30,2012 11:56 am || Up

                  Developing supersonic commercial aircraft can be expensive sure (Concorde) but I’d imagine it’d still be a fraction of the cost of developing, building, and maintaining transoceanic, supersonic railways. At the very least, the technology for supersonic aircraft has been around for decades; refining it to make it better and more cost-efficient is likely to be both more plausible and less costly than these proposed railways.

                  Anyways my original point is that it makes little sense to build those 500-1000 mph railways when current commercial planes can regularly cruise at 700+ mph groundspeed (depending on tailwinds). Now if you can build 2500+ mph transoceanic railways…

                • nevermoor Mar 30,2012 12:22 pm || Up

                  Part of it is that trains (usually) go city center to city center. So a train that moves at airplane speeds would save you ~3-5 hours of commute time per trip.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • lenscrafters Mar 30,2012 12:41 pm || Up

                  I think that’s probably a pretty wild overestimate. Getting to where you want to go departing from, for example, SJC or Diridon is nowhere near a difference of 3-5 hours. Anyways, this might be moot as I doubt it’d be practical for supersonic trains to utilize city center train stations unless they were underground.

                • nevermoor Mar 30,2012 12:57 pm || Up

                  1. Travel to airport
                  2. Bag check at airport
                  3. Security at airport
                  4. Pick up bags at destination
                  5. Travel from airport

                  Hard to make that much less than three hours, since nearly all airports are pretty far from downtowns. O’Hare, for example, takes approximately three weeks to drive to in any kind of traffic. And LAX is worse.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • lenscrafters Mar 30,2012 1:18 pm || Up

                  Okay but why wouldn’t things like security, delays, long lines, and other current airport hassles become the norm with this form of transportation as well?

                • nevermoor Mar 30,2012 1:40 pm || Up

                  They haven’t yet, and train travel is well-established out east/in Europe/etc.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • monkeyball Mar 30,2012 1:49 pm || Up

                  They haven’t yet because (market-wise compared to planes) nobody rides the train except for DC bureaucrats and journos who ride the Acela.

                  If we as a country invested the effort, money, land, and marketing to make medium-to-long-distance train travel a mass-market option, the amount of opportunism, rent-seeking, and bureaucratic overreach would be equally massive.

                  you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
                • lenscrafters Mar 30,2012 1:53 pm || Up

                  Well yeah. They aren’t the fastest form of transportation like air travel currently is and faster-than-air-travel trains would become.

                  I mean, you can’t possibly be claiming that taking a supersonic train would be exactly like how we would take an Amtrak train right now.

                • nevermoor Mar 30,2012 2:13 pm || Up

                  Well, I doubt they’d move the train stations way outside cities (because trains just don’t need the same footprint). And I would also expect that the same relative-lack-of-weight-restrictions would provide enough passenger / baggage space to prevent the need to check.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • lenscrafters Mar 30,2012 2:20 pm || Up

                  Now I feel like booting up my old copy of Railroad Tycoon.

                • dmoas Mar 30,2012 2:20 pm || Up

                  You also can’t really effectively crash a train into a building. You can really only blow one up.

                • ptbnl Mar 30,2012 2:36 pm || Up

                  Unless you are already at the airport (eg. connecting from another flight) London/Paris is significantly faster by train than plane, and that even involves passport control.

                  If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
                • the llama Mar 30,2012 11:44 pm || Up

                  @mb. This.

                  (Also, no offense, but I find all the fascination with a 19th century mode of transport kind of…odd.)

                • monkeyball Mar 31,2012 11:01 am || Up

                  19th century mode of transport

                  DFA and his fixie haz a sad

                  you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
                • AV Mar 31,2012 11:09 am || Up

                  one less velocipede.

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • Future Ed Mar 31,2012 11:14 am || Up

                  v.

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • Dial C for Concupiscence (UM) Mar 31,2012 11:18 am || Up

                  Needs moar cow catcher

                • MikeV Mar 30,2012 1:58 pm || Up

                  Yeah but I don’t live close to the city center and you can’t make me. :D

                  And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

                  Thanks, and go As.

                • nevermoor Mar 30,2012 2:14 pm || Up

                  Did you not read your eviction notice?

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • monkeyball Mar 30,2012 2:49 pm || Up

                  We’re replacing casaV with an indoor soccer facility to be managed by Christina Hendricks

                  you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
                • Tutu-late Mar 30,2012 2:51 pm || Up

                  Why can’t he stay and be her boy-toy?

                • MikeV Mar 30,2012 4:12 pm || Up

                  That’s the plan.

                  And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

                  Thanks, and go As.

                • Tutu-late Mar 30,2012 4:15 pm || Up

                  @MikeV

                  You’re my hero!

                • dmoas Mar 30,2012 12:24 pm || Up

                  I was mostly asking for the science of doing it at a quarter of max speed. Think about it in these terms, though. You’re *staring* at a reliable, consistent match to the best we have now. Wouldn’t it make more sense (even though more expensive to establish) knowing you could then slowly over time potentially build it up to 4000mph? Don’t think of it terms of matching it to what the best planes can do now. Match it to back when commercial planes were when they first started launching. Our *start* point is the max plane speed with the promise of a shit-ton faster.

                  Also consider starting much, much smaller. Forget transatlantic and focus simply on a NorCal to SoCal tube. At best it takes an 45min – 1hr by plane with all the without all the BS involved. You’re not really going to beat that time in a plane. But a 500 – 1000 mph tube covers that in half the time or better. Then you build the system up from there as the tech gets better and the kinks get ironed out to the point that by the time you’re actually considering transatlantic, you’re talking about 2000-3000mph or better some 50-200 years from now.

                • lenscrafters Mar 30,2012 12:52 pm || Up

                  I’m not sure of the science but I think the technology behind a 500 mph train is vastly different from a train that has to go 5 times the speed of sound at sea level, to the point where you can’t just “improve” on the infrastructure to get where you want to be.

                  And I’m pretty sure you’d have to deal with air travel related BS if you ever build a train like that.

                • doctorK Mar 30,2012 1:49 pm || Up

                  I’m sure the TSA would figure out how to FK it up.

                • monkeyball Mar 30,2012 1:50 pm || Up

                  THE TERRORISTS COULD PUT A BOMB ON ONE OF THOSE TRAINS AND SEND IT TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH!!!1!

                  you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
                • monkeyball Mar 30,2012 1:51 pm || Up

                  {fires up Final Draft}

                  you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
                • dmoas Mar 30,2012 2:27 pm || Up

                  Well sure. But I’d imagine if you start with the 500mph version, each addition would be an improvement. So while you’d still be stuck with the slower “connectors,” when you start building the bigger system that’s going around the world, you’d be basing it on a higher tech version, one that would presumably support the faster tube. Assuming you planned ahead appropriately (unlike how we handled trains) you could build in future expansion into the track (vertically?) to support an eventual retrofit of the faster version that would be build much, much later in the future. You’d never remove air travel from the equation. You’d simply reduce air travel and change the pattern from long distance to intra-regional travel with the big hubs being where the tube stations were located. You’d want to do that anyway since you wouldn’t want a lot of stations along the route slowing down the travel, though I suppose you can build in switch tubes to bypass the stations.

                • the llama Mar 30,2012 11:54 pm || Up

                  Science-wise, I’d say that it doesn’t really matter whether you design it at a quarter of max speed. For a quarter of max speed, you’d allow the pressure to be 25x the pressure required for max speed. A difference in air pressure of 25x isn’t a lot when you’re talking about vacuum. You might as well go down all the way.

                • MikeV Mar 31,2012 9:15 am || Up

                  TWSS

                  And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

                  Thanks, and go As.

                • dmoas Mar 31,2012 10:42 pm || Up

                  Okay then. Let’s start saving our money and steal from the Chinese after they spend trillions trying to figure it out.

                • the llama Mar 31,2012 10:57 pm || Up

                  I’m telling you, driverless cars.

                • dmoas Mar 31,2012 11:15 pm || Up

                  Too fucking slow.

                • Tutu-late Apr 1,2012 7:05 am || Up

                  Ford worked on that idea in the 80s

                • the llama Apr 1,2012 12:21 pm || Up

                  It’s time to try again. My guess is it would (net) reduce carbon emissions while raising standard of living across classes.

                • nevermoor Apr 1,2012 12:35 pm || Up

                  The problem is the liability, not the technology.

                  Crashes will happen, and as it stands now (and, probably, should stand) it would be the manufacturer’s fault.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • the llama Apr 1,2012 12:44 pm || Up

                  Yes. The problem will be convincing people that the net reduction in accidents will be worth it, and every robot-induced failure will be given far mroe scrutiny than your run of the mill human-induced error.

                • dmoas Apr 1,2012 1:24 pm || Up

                  The first casualty as a result of automated driving will be the end of it after all the lawsuits.

                • Tutu-late Apr 1,2012 3:26 pm || Up

                  What Ford was trying to do, was to use the cars we already have, but link them(10-20 cars) via a magnetic device for long runs on the freeway. Individual cars would be able to couple/decouple as needed, This would allow for local driving as well as the benefits of aerodynamics in longer trips. It would require quite a computer control system, which was the drawback of the era.

          • colin Mar 30,2012 6:31 am || Up

            Yeah, that’s sort of what I was thinking. In the past, whenever I have looked at a project and thought “we can do this on small scale, but there’s no way to pull it off at the much larger scale proposed”, I end up being wrong.

            For example, LIGO: who knew that you could make a 4 km long interferometer with 50 kg mirrors that is able to measure changes in the length of its arms that are the size of an atomic nucleus?

            • ptbnl Mar 30,2012 7:41 am || Up

              … and still not see anything ;-)

              If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
              • colin Mar 30,2012 8:09 am || Up

                Well yeah, but that doesn’t take away anything from the engineering feat.

                • ptbnl Mar 30,2012 9:40 am || Up

                  True.

                  The political feat is equally impressive though … they’ve managed to use the “give us one more upgrade and we’ll see gravity waves” argument multiple times now.

                  If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
                • colin Mar 30,2012 3:03 pm || Up

                  but but but enhanced LIGO!

                • colin Mar 30,2012 3:05 pm || Up

                  Also, a little closer to home, just wait until the current generation of B-mode experiments (+Planck) fails to detect gravity waves.

                • ptbnl Mar 30,2012 3:24 pm || Up

                  CMBpol FTW!

                  If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
                • monkeyball Mar 30,2012 3:25 pm || Up

                  Now you’re just speaking Welsh again

                  you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
                • ptbnl Mar 30,2012 3:59 pm || Up

                  Too many vowels for Welsh.

                  If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
                • SPWC Mar 30,2012 4:21 pm || Up

                  I think we have today’s winner, unless Bed makes me spit up milk again in the lounge!

                  \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
                • colin Mar 30,2012 3:37 pm || Up

                  I spent 15 minutes this afternoon having a discussion about whether or not PIXIE is bullshit.

                • Dial C for Concupiscence (UM) Mar 30,2012 4:36 pm || Up

                  Funny, I’m pretty sure I overhead two 9 year olds saying the same thing today.

                • ptbnl Mar 30,2012 5:07 pm || Up

                  So what’s your take?

                  If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
                • colin Apr 2,2012 7:27 am || Up

                  They don’t spend all that much time in the paper breaking down the noise, but I generally believe their calculation (though like 2/3 of their photon loading comes from CMB, rather than dust — is that realistic for an instrument with a band out to 6 THz? I don’t know, cause my thesis was at 40 GHz). But assuming that the photon loading number is right, my main problem is that their sensitivity is equally spread between all frequency bands, so you need to believe that 4 THz, 4.02 THz, 4.04 THz, etc, are all useful for measuring CMB. You either have a typical dust model with spatially varying spectral index and then all of those high frequency channels are basically giving you redundant high signal-to-noise dust maps, or else you find out that you are measuring dust so well that you have to develop obscenely complicated dust models to account for what’s in your data and all of the free parameters eat up your sensitivity.

                • colin Apr 2,2012 7:29 am || Up

                  I was just looking at this comment and thinking that it might be the most gratuitously technical comment in the history of FK, but then I realized that is almost certainly not the case.

                • SPWC Apr 2,2012 7:59 am || Up

                  Yeah dude, you’d obviously have to be on the dust to think that!

                  \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
                • ptbnl Apr 2,2012 8:13 am || Up

                  What do you think about the length of the path/number of reflections in the optics? From a very cursory look by someone with no experimental experience, I’d worry about that distorting the polarization. And aren’t beam asymmetry and band-pass mismatch going to be issues, especially for a differencing experiment?

                  If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
                • MikeV Apr 2,2012 8:16 am || Up

                  Nerds.

                  And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

                  Thanks, and go As.

                • 5Aces Apr 2,2012 8:37 am || Up

                  NERDS!

                  Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
                • the llama Apr 2,2012 8:16 pm || Up

                  Be careful what you say, colin. It will show up as the primary thesis in ptbnl’s commentary in Nature. :-)

                • colin Apr 2,2012 10:07 pm || Up

                  The number of reflections is kind of scary. Also, I’m an electronics guy, so optics = magic, as far as I’m concerned. But the beams get mixed and then re-mixed by various wire grids, so I think that you actually end up with a lot of redundancy that could provide good rejection of beam issues.

                  I didn’t try to figure out what would happen for mismatched bandpasses between the four bolometers — that would almost certainly make the “good rejection of beam issues” less good.

                • sslinger Apr 2,2012 11:40 pm || Up

                  I didn’t try to figure out what would happen for mismatched bandpasses between the four bolometers

                  TWSS

                • nevermoor Mar 30,2012 5:13 pm || Up

                  Clap harder

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • the llama Mar 30,2012 11:58 pm || Up

                  Correct. The fact that we can fire 192 40 cm x 40 cm beams of 354 nm light and then focus all the beams on the inside of a 5 mm can to implode a 2 mm bead to fuse hydrogen isotopes is pretty insane. Still seems like magic to me, yet we do it almost every single night. From an engineering perspective, it’s absolutely miraculous.

    • PDXAthleticsfan Mar 30,2012 11:18 am || Up

      After pondering the maze of overpasses and flyovers on I-5 between downtown and east Portland, I’d prefer investing tax dollars into developing an affordable, green Jetson mobile that would allow cities to reclaim their roadways for greenspace.

      A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
      • dmoas Mar 30,2012 11:43 am || Up

        They’d just replace them with houses, warehouses, and malls.

        • PDXAthleticsfan Mar 30,2012 11:51 am || Up

          Probably for late adopters. But I figure in places like Portland, Eugene, Ashland, Berkeley, SF, and Seattle there would be at least some reclamation.

          A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
          • dmoas Mar 30,2012 11:53 am || Up

            Actually, the more I think about this, the more I hate it. I have a house next to a school. Teenage flyers = bad idea. I can easily imagine those fkers crashing into my roof or backyard all the time.

            • PDXAthleticsfan Mar 30,2012 12:03 pm || Up

              The key is to automate the routes and have all of the Jetson mobiles talk to each other so that the teen flyers have no say in the matter.

              A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
              • Future Ed Mar 30,2012 12:07 pm || Up

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                I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • PDXAthleticsfan Apr 3,2012 2:50 pm || Up
                  A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
      • gonealookin Mar 30,2012 11:54 am || Up

        That downtown Portland area is roadgeek heaven because of all the highway planners’ conceptions that ended in abortions. On and off ramps ending in midair everywhere. And if you are coming off 405 and need to get on the Ross Island Bridge you have one of the great little drives anywhere in the USA.

        What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
        • monkeyball Mar 30,2012 11:55 am || Up

          And Ba’al forbid you’re using GPS and not paying attention to the road every second …

          you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
          • the llama Mar 30,2012 11:59 pm || Up

            Or your PDX-native wife asks you to drive home from the airport while she tends to screaming kiddies in the backseat.

            • Leopold Bloom Mar 31,2012 12:00 pm || Up

              I’m not FROM P90X, but I have been living there…oh….PDX…that’s different, huh?

        • PDXAthleticsfan Mar 30,2012 12:02 pm || Up

          Yeah, that’s the part I was looking at coming from south waterfront back to downtown. Fortunately, I only take the Ross Island Bridge about two times a year.

          A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
          • gonealookin Mar 30,2012 12:36 pm || Up

            It would be horrible to have to drive all of that regularly at rush hour but as a visitor I find Portland’s freeway system almost an attraction. It’s like a trip back in time to the dawn of the interstate age. Much of that appears to have been designed by the person who designed the original Autopia at Disneyland. The Bay Area is on its second generation of freeways as almost all the original structures have been removed in expansions. There’s still one terrific bit of obsolescence to be seen as you drive from the Claremont Hotel down to Montclair on 13 with the old narrow lanes and bridges and sharply-curved ramps. The entire riverfront portion of Portland’s freeways is like that.

            What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
            • Future Ed Mar 30,2012 12:43 pm || Up

              380 seems to end abruptly in SOuth city or wherever that is

              I have $5. No I don\'t.
            • PDXAthleticsfan Mar 30,2012 12:51 pm || Up

              It never occurred to me that the lanes are particularly narrow here, but we certainly don’t lack for sharp curves. I’ll have to pay more attention when I’m down there next.

              When I was down there in October, I was pretty happy with what they did at the 85/101 exchange going toward (I think it was the HOV-only part) and coming from SF.

              A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
      • lenscrafters Mar 30,2012 11:58 am || Up

  13. the llama Mar 29,2012 7:48 pm
    • Future Ed Mar 29,2012 7:56 pm || Up

      “I see,” I said. We all know how long it takes to look these things up on the Internet. “Well, would you like to know?”

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Mar 29,2012 8:50 pm || Up

      I loved that show and had passed the audition and made their list of qualified contestants to be scheduled, and then it went off the air.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • the llama Mar 29,2012 9:12 pm || Up

        Dang, that sucks. You two would have had a great time talking politics.

        I passed the College Jeopardy knowledge exam, but failed the screen test when they paired me with a insanely personable wheelchair-bound redhead.

        • monkeyball Mar 30,2012 12:01 am || Up

          I can walk!

          you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • Future Ed Mar 30,2012 9:23 am || Up

        bummer. it was a fun show. I was uneasy about jimmy kimmle, but though he was funny. My uneasiness was shown justified by his next project

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
  14. gonealookin Mar 29,2012 8:01 pm

    Hooray for Canada. First, an intelligent health care delivery system, and now the penny is toast.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • Future Ed Mar 29,2012 8:03 pm || Up

      hands off my tooney

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • nevermoor Mar 29,2012 8:14 pm || Up

      Indeed. Sucks to have to envy Canada’s political system

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • elcroata Mar 30,2012 12:15 am || Up

      Now, replace it with Steve’s $.99 coin!

      Because survival is insufficient
    • SPWC Mar 30,2012 7:02 am || Up

      Why do they have to take it out of circulation as opposed to just not minting more?

      I would think they could go a decade or so before a penny shortage, and by then, cash will be almost obsolete anyways.

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
      • nevermoor Mar 30,2012 9:33 am || Up

        Because the processing of pennies is expensive for everyone involved.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • PaulThomas Apr 1,2012 5:46 pm || Up

          Isn’t the value of the metal in pennies, alone, worth almost as much as the pennies themselves? I.e. you could get most of the value back by just melting them for scrap.

          • FreeSeatUpgrade Apr 1,2012 7:08 pm || Up

            Not any more. U.S. pennies are mostly made of zinc now; each actually worth around a half cent in metal value. Those made before 1982, when they were mostly copper, are worth about 2.5 cents each. Per this.

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • nevermoor Apr 1,2012 9:49 pm || Up

            You might be thinking that the cost of making pennies is more than 1 cent each, which is true.

            FSU is exactly right about the other part.

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
            • PaulThomas Apr 2,2012 5:08 pm || Up

              Yeah, I knew about the “value less than cost” part. Wasn’t sure how much of that was overhead and how much of it was the cost of bulk metal, though.

              Interestingly, it looks like nickels really ARE more valuable if you melt them for scrap.

              • FreeSeatUpgrade Apr 2,2012 6:24 pm || Up

                Yeah, some end-times types have been hoarding nickels for the past few years. Though really, as with gold hoarders, if civilization collapses raw metal ain’t gonna be as fungible as the survivalists would hope.

                "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
                • nevermoor Apr 2,2012 6:38 pm || Up

                  Honestly, the most valuable thing would probably be bullets (unless it’s a kill-all-flora-and-fauna type catastrophe and all anyone cares about is canned goods)

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • the llama Apr 2,2012 8:17 pm || Up

                  Bingo. Can’t eat gold.

                • Tutu-late Apr 2,2012 9:33 pm || Up

                  Wild TURKEYS!!

                • Dial C for Concupiscence Apr 3,2012 9:58 am || Up

                  Sez you!

                • dmoas Apr 3,2012 9:59 am || Up

                  Mmm… chocolate.

    • SPWC Mar 30,2012 7:03 am || Up

      …and another thing…

      If we end up with a completely cashless economy, it is imperative to create and tacitly accept black market electronic currency systems, because the black market economy is very important towards keeping society afloat in times when the white market economy sputters and/or depresses.

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
      • nevermoor Mar 30,2012 9:33 am || Up

        I doubt that’ll happen for a long time, but if it does my guess is that people use shell accounts rather than different currency.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  15. the llama Mar 29,2012 9:10 pm
  16. the llama Mar 29,2012 9:22 pm

    Caption this:

    • the llama Mar 29,2012 9:23 pm || Up

      “Don’t be fooled by the blue lightsaber.”

    • the llama Mar 29,2012 9:23 pm || Up

      “These aren’t the votes you’re looking for.”

    • nevermoor Mar 29,2012 9:27 pm || Up

      “I like to pretend I’m Obi Wan, but the Secret Service has advised me not to wear the hood”

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • nevermoor Mar 29,2012 10:15 pm || Up

        (also, props to whoever made sure his lightsaber was blue)

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • the llama Mar 31,2012 12:01 am || Up

          mos def, that intern should get a prize.

      • doctorK Mar 30,2012 1:57 pm || Up

        also winner

    • oblique Mar 29,2012 9:50 pm || Up

      “Christ, what an asshole.”

      • JediLeroy Mar 29,2012 10:08 pm || Up

        Haha! It really does work, every time.

        az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
    • Tutu-late Mar 30,2012 6:58 am || Up

      “Ask Ringo, you bastard!”

    • SPWC Mar 30,2012 7:03 am || Up

      “If I had a son, he’d look just like Luke Skywalker”

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
    • nevermoor Mar 30,2012 9:35 am || Up

      “You fools. Bringing a saber to a lightsaber fight.”

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • doctorK Mar 30,2012 1:56 pm || Up

      “That’s not a knife. Here’s a knife.”

    • monkeyball Mar 30,2012 2:51 pm || Up

      “He pulls a knife, you pull a lightsaber. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue! That’s the Chicago way.”

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • nevermoor Mar 30,2012 2:53 pm || Up

      “For SCIENCE!”

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • the llama Mar 31,2012 12:01 am || Up

  17. the llama Mar 29,2012 10:08 pm

    Today’s safety email…to the people who work with the world’s biggest and most powerful laser, capable of delivering 192 beams of an ultraviolet laser totaling almost 2 megajoules of power in billionths of a second…was a reminder not to shine laser pointers in your eye.

    • the llama Mar 29,2012 10:11 pm || Up

      To be fair – as I always say – such emails wouldn’t be necessary if someone, somewhere hadn’t been injured by pointing a laser in their eye. Don’t do it, kids.

    • nevermoor Mar 29,2012 10:15 pm || Up

      Everyone knows laser pointers have only one use: feline entertainment

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • nevermoor Mar 29,2012 10:15 pm || Up

        To be fair, this distinguishes them from other items in zero ways.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • dmoas Mar 30,2012 11:35 am || Up

        Apparently one of mine is scared shitless of it. Another loves the thing and the third likes watching the one who loves it jump around.

    • elcroata Mar 30,2012 12:16 am || Up

      Please don’t point a laser into your remaining eye

      Because survival is insufficient
      • AV Mar 30,2012 12:24 am || Up

        depends what the laser is pointed with. NSFW repost.

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  18. the llama Mar 29,2012 11:16 pm
    • Glorious Mundy Mar 30,2012 10:20 am || Up

      “Todd Helton was my guy the whole time. This guy Ariel Prieto comes out of nowhere in the last month. So I fly in to see him and, boy, he’s really good. So I say, ‘Sandy, there’s a guy here who’s much different than the rest of these amateurs. He’s older, he’s more polished. This guy might be big league ready real fast.’ So we had many pow-wows about which way to go – Helton, Prieto, Helton, Prieto, Helton, Prieto. And when it all came down to it, he wanted to go that way, and that’s the way we went.”

      Fail.

  19. mjdittmer Mar 29,2012 11:27 pm

    No. 5: That blew my mind. I thought perhaps I was back in the bigs, giving it another go. But then I thought: How old am I? So I did what we all do when we forget how old we are–I looked it up on wikipedia. I’m 47. Am I trying to make a comeback attempt at 47?

    Nope.

    The Rangers released Ruben Sierra from minor league camp. Sierra’s father, also Ruben, played 20 years in the majors and hit 180 home runs with the Rangers.

    I have a son? I have a son? I have a son!!!

    I wonder what Diego Chavez would have to say about all this.

    • nevermoor Mar 29,2012 11:34 pm || Up

      Well played.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"

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