Offseason Boredom Set In? ← FREE KRAUT!

Offseason Boredom Set In? 227

Need something to occupy your time? Need gift ideas for your loved ones?

Hey, how’s about putting fermented cabbage under the tree this year?!

And….here’s how:

Making Sauerkraut is Easy!

Sandor Ellix Katz, the creator of this wildfermentation.com and the author of Wild Fermentation: The Flavor, Nutrition, and Craft of Live-Culture Foods (Chelsea Green, 2003) has earned the nickname “Sandorkraut” for his love of sauerkraut. This is Sandorkaut’s easy sauerkraut recipe, one of more than 90 ferments included in his book.

Timeframe: 1-4 weeks (or more)

Special Equipment:

* Ceramic crock or food-grade plastic bucket, one-gallon capacity or greater
* Plate that fits inside crock or bucket
* One-gallon jug filled with water (or a scrubbed and boiled rock)
* Cloth cover (like a pillowcase or towel)

Ingredients (for 1 gallon):

* 5 pounds cabbage
* 3 tablespoons sea salt

Process:

1. Chop or grate cabbage, finely or coarsely, with or without hearts, however you like it. I love to mix green and red cabbage to end up with bright pink kraut. Place cabbage in a large bowl as you chop it.
2. Sprinkle salt on the cabbage as you go. The salt pulls water out of the cabbage (through osmosis), and this creates the brine in which the cabbage can ferment and sour without rotting. The salt also has the effect of keeping the cabbage crunchy, by inhibiting organisms and enzymes that soften it. 3 tablespoons of salt is a rough guideline for 5 pounds of cabbage. I never measure the salt; I just shake some on after I chop up each cabbage. I use more salt in summer, less in winter.
3. Add other vegetables. Grate carrots for a coleslaw-like kraut. Other vegetables I’ve added include onions, garlic, seaweed, greens, Brussels sprouts, small whole heads of cabbage, turnips, beets, and burdock roots. You can also add fruits (apples, whole or sliced, are classic), and herbs and spices (caraway seeds, dill seeds, celery seeds, and juniper berries are classic, but anything you like will work). Experiment.
4. Mix ingredients together and pack into crock. Pack just a bit into the crock at a time and tamp it down hard using your fists or any (other) sturdy kitchen implement. The tamping packs the kraut tight in the crock and helps force water out of the cabbage.
5. 5. Cover kraut with a plate or some other lid that fits snugly inside the crock. Place a clean weight (a glass jug filled with water) on the cover. This weight is to force water out of the cabbage and then keep the cabbage submerged under the brine. Cover the whole thing with a cloth to keep dust and flies out.
6. Press down on the weight to add pressure to the cabbage and help force water out of it. Continue doing this periodically (as often as you think of it, every few hours), until the brine rises above the cover. This can take up to about 24 hours, as the salt draws water out of the cabbage slowly. Some cabbage, particularly if it is old, simply contains less water. If the brine does not rise above the plate level by the next day, add enough salt water to bring the brine level above the plate. Add about a teaspoon of salt to a cup of water and stir until it’s completely dissolved.
7. Leave the crock to ferment. I generally store the crock in an unobtrusive corner of the kitchen where I won’t forget about it, but where it won’t be in anybody’s way. You could also store it in a cool basement if you want a slower fermentation that will preserve for longer.
8. Check the kraut every day or two. The volume reduces as the fermentation proceeds. Sometimes mold appears on the surface. Many books refer to this mold as “scum,” but I prefer to think of it as a bloom. Skim what you can off of the surface; it will break up and you will probably not be able to remove all of it. Don’t worry about this. It’s just a surface phenomenon, a result of contact with the air. The kraut itself is under the anaerobic protection of the brine. Rinse off the plate and the weight. Taste the kraut. Generally it starts to be tangy after a few days, and the taste gets stronger as time passes. In the cool temperatures of a cellar in winter, kraut can keep improving for months and months. In the summer or in a heated room, its life cycle is more rapid. Eventually it becomes soft and the flavor turns less pleasant.
9. Enjoy. I generally scoop out a bowl- or jarful at a time and keep it in the fridge. I start when the kraut is young and enjoy its evolving flavor over the course of a few weeks. Try the sauerkraut juice that will be left in the bowl after the kraut is eaten. Sauerkraut juice is a rare delicacy and unparalleled digestive tonic. Each time you scoop some kraut out of the crock, you have to repack it carefully. Make sure the kraut is packed tight in the crock, the surface is level, and the cover and weight are clean. Sometimes brine evaporates, so if the kraut is not submerged below brine just add salted water as necessary. Some people preserve kraut by canning and heat-processing it. This can be done; but so much of the power of sauerkraut is its aliveness that I wonder: Why kill it?
10. Develop a rhythm. I try to start a new batch before the previous batch runs out. I remove the remaining kraut from the crock, repack it with fresh salted cabbage, then pour the old kraut and its juices over the new kraut. This gives the new batch a boost with an active culture starter.

(taken directly from here)

227 thoughts on “Offseason Boredom Set In?

  1. MikeV Nov 16,2010 9:26 am

    goddamn I love Kraut

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

    • Leopold Bloom Nov 16,2010 9:31 am || Up

      Well, now you can make your own. And if you start now, it’ll be ready for Christmas!

    • monkeyball Nov 16,2010 9:33 am || Up

      iFSU, Kraut loves you

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • MikeV Nov 16,2010 10:18 am || Up

        :swoon:

        And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

        Thanks, and go As.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 16,2010 10:00 am || Up

      Me too. But anyone who tries to serve me kraut with fruit in it better be ready to defend himself.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Leopold Bloom Nov 16,2010 10:02 am || Up

        Yeah, I’ll agree. That’s just wrong.

        • MikeV Nov 16,2010 10:18 am || Up

          Really the only thing that should be served with Kraut?

          Bratwurst.

          And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

          Thanks, and go As.

          • Leopold Bloom Nov 16,2010 10:20 am || Up

            hot links.

            • MikeV Nov 16,2010 10:26 am || Up

              also acceptable.

              And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

              Thanks, and go As.

          • monkeyball Nov 16,2010 10:35 am || Up

            How about MOAR KRAUT?

            you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • sslinger Nov 20,2010 2:56 pm || Up

        Went to the beaujolais nouveau party at Kermit Lynch today, and Christopher Lee was serving up boudin blanc with sauerkraut and potatoes. The kraut had apples in it, and was delicious. A bite of sausage, kraut and mustard was pretty near perfect to accompany the fresh nouveau.

  2. monkeyball Nov 16,2010 9:33 am
    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • Leopold Bloom Nov 16,2010 9:42 am || Up

      Holy. Shit. Balls.

      Wow.

      I didn’t think it was possible for me to love Tim Gunn any more than I already did. I was wrong.

      • batgirl Nov 16,2010 12:43 pm || Up

        That was awesome!! I love Tim Gunn.

        He added, deadpan, “I’m happy for Gretchen.”

        I’ve got to read his book.

  3. monkeyball Nov 16,2010 9:35 am

    OK. This is actually starting to sound a little cool.

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • Leopold Bloom Nov 16,2010 9:47 am || Up

      DMcW certainly sounds excited…

      • monkeyball Nov 16,2010 9:52 am || Up

        Well, he has an idiosyncratic range of things he gets excited about.

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  4. nevermoor Nov 16,2010 9:36 am

    Overanalyze This.

    But then, the last line is great.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • monkeyball Nov 16,2010 9:49 am || Up

      I honestly wonder if Rove had a hand in the decision-making. It’s less a portrait for posterity (“who knows — we’ll all be dead!”) than a campaign image.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • Leopold Bloom Nov 16,2010 9:55 am || Up

        It’s just SO different than any of the others…

        • nanotrebuchet Nov 16,2010 10:07 am || Up

          Yeah, well, so is Jerry Brown’s gubernatorial portrait:

  5. nevermoor Nov 16,2010 9:42 am
    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • monkeyball Nov 16,2010 10:01 am || Up

      One of the things that I think is actually most valuable about Krugman is his willingness to violate the op-ed omerta and to have public pissing matches not merely with other pundits, but with other NYT pundits.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  6. nanotrebuchet Nov 16,2010 9:45 am
    • nevermoor Nov 16,2010 9:50 am || Up

      Christ. What would you need to do that? Cahill/Carter?

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • monkeyball Nov 16,2010 10:05 am || Up

        I’d do that deal.

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
        • nevermoor Nov 16,2010 10:06 am || Up

          Me too. I’m just not sure if it’s enough.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • nanotrebuchet Nov 16,2010 10:08 am || Up

        Brett Anderson, Carlos Gonzalez, Greg Smith, Dana Eveland, and Aaron Cunningham.

        • nevermoor Nov 16,2010 10:09 am || Up

          Heh.

          Only if they give us Haren back too.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • MikeV Nov 16,2010 10:25 am || Up

        I don’t think that would be enough, actually.

        And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

        Thanks, and go As.

    • monkeyball Nov 16,2010 4:21 pm || Up
      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  7. monkeyball Nov 16,2010 10:06 am

    So. Awesome.

    Regardless of his views on Israel, Goldberg really is a mensch.

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • nanotrebuchet Nov 16,2010 11:05 am || Up
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 16,2010 12:09 pm || Up

        I’m flying with the family in a few days, and I’m dreading this. It puts the traveller in one of those classic no-win scenarios with authority: sure, you can “opt out” and make a point of objecting to going through a naked scanner and/or being fondled by TSA. And they can in turn oblige your concerns by totally ruining your vacation plans if they are so inclined. Oh joy.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • nanotrebuchet Nov 16,2010 12:26 pm || Up

          Yup, we’re flying out on Thursday and I’m worried about the same thing. Most TSA employees have been extremely friendly with the kids so far. But lord help you if you try to pat down my three year old. When we flew last week, we had to remove the “shoes” – those soft-soled, glorified socks that babies wear – from our one year old.

          • ptbnl Nov 16,2010 12:37 pm || Up

            When I flew out of SFO 10 days ago I got pulled out of line for extra security checking apparently because of my cargo pants.

            Faced with the lose-lose scenario, I consented to the “enhanced” pat down, which was actually much less intrusive than I’d expected from the press. There was no junk-fondling, they just went higher up my inner thighs than before to the extent that I could imagine accidental contact on a warm day. YMMV.

            If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
            • nanotrebuchet Nov 16,2010 12:40 pm || Up

              Next time you get asked to submit to an enhanced pat-down, slip the guy a twenty and ask him to enhance it a little more.

              • monkeyball Nov 16,2010 12:52 pm || Up

                And the bonus is that you can’t be convicted of bribing a public official, because he’s a private-sector employee!

                you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  8. andeux Nov 16,2010 10:07 am

    Apparently there is a profile of that krauteur (krautier? krautisan?) in the current New Yorker. But only the abstract is available online, unless you’re a subscriber.

    TINSTAAFK
    • Leopold Bloom Nov 16,2010 10:12 am || Up

      See how current and “hip” I am, everyone?

      • nevermoor Nov 16,2010 10:13 am || Up

        I’ve seen exactly how hip you are.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • monkeyball Nov 16,2010 10:22 am || Up

      Boy, I thought you meant one of us (gabba gabba hey).

      I think the term would be krautmacher.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  9. monkeyball Nov 16,2010 10:26 am

    grover bait

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • monkeyball Nov 16,2010 10:26 am || Up

      Though … WTF is up with the hair?

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • Leopold Bloom Nov 16,2010 10:29 am || Up

        kd lang meets Kid n Play. Huh.

        I am less impressed with her than other people seem to be.

        • monkeyball Nov 16,2010 10:38 am || Up

          She’s no Chloris Leachman.

          you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
          • nevermoor Nov 16,2010 10:44 am || Up

            A Monarchic Shell?

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
            • ptbnl Nov 16,2010 11:39 am || Up

              O anarchic smell (there’s no h in Cloris)

              If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
              • Ice Cream Nov 16,2010 2:10 pm || Up

                Cloris, wat an assole.

                Where is the good in "good-bye"?
  10. monkeyball Nov 16,2010 10:41 am
    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • Leopold Bloom Nov 16,2010 4:31 pm || Up

      Is it bad that I’m really amused by this?

      It is, isn’t it?

      • Soaker Nov 16,2010 4:40 pm || Up

        I’d say the newsroom staff owes the clown some retribution.

        What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  11. monkeyball Nov 16,2010 10:52 am

    I have to say … I’m not as vehement/scarred as Calcaterra, but I don’t disagree with him.

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • andeux Nov 16,2010 11:01 am || Up

      You are both deranged. Though I’ll agree that the current toned-down colors are better than the pre-’86 ones (especially the solid yellow tops).

      TINSTAAFK
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 16,2010 12:05 pm || Up

        Agreed. But basically I love the yellow, and may actually fork over money for an officially licensed A’s product if they offer yellow jersey tees again. I have a Reggie jersey tee in yellow which I adore, but it’s pretty ragged now.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • sslinger Nov 16,2010 11:41 am || Up

      All links to him should be bAnNeD fOr LiFe after that article.

  12. monkeyball Nov 16,2010 10:54 am

    When you look up the word “insufferable” in the dictionary, this is the picture next to it.

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • monkeyball Nov 16,2010 11:07 am || Up

      And from the story accompanying same, YOTW:

      if prevailing against a medium-sized band of poorly equipped irregular fighters requires a fundamental shift in the policy orientation of a large adjacent nuclear-armed state whose national security thinking is overwhelmingly focused on combatting the threat from India, then we’ve got a serious problem.

      A more sensible take would be that we need to define objectives in Afghanistan that can be realistically achieved even if we assume that Pakistan will continue to be basically Pakistanish in the future.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  13. monkeyball Nov 16,2010 11:33 am
    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • nanotrebuchet Nov 16,2010 11:53 am || Up

      home to 40+ telecommuters

      ?

      Anybody that wants to have a constructive talk with me, I invite them to have coffee on me

      Pass.
      (Euphemism alert: “have a coffee on me”)

      We’re not the evil corporate devils

      You don’t say.

  14. nanotrebuchet Nov 16,2010 11:57 am

    andeux bait

    (also, the carbon footprint of that hybrid just went waaay up)

    • andeux Nov 16,2010 12:09 pm || Up

      It’s better to burn out than it is to rust.
      (not sure why that is me bait, though)

      TINSTAAFK
      • nanotrebuchet Nov 16,2010 12:26 pm || Up

        Aren’t you the biggest NY fan among FKers? For some reason I think that.

        • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 16,2010 12:44 pm || Up

          I’m a big Neil Young fan also…was listening to Decade on my drive to work just this morning.

          The lesson here is not to store your valuable and irreplaceable items in the same place as your electrical experiments.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • Leopold Bloom Nov 16,2010 4:40 pm || Up

            [gasp!]

            ALL my valuables are stored in the garage!

            • monkeyball Nov 16,2010 4:48 pm || Up

              … euphemism?

              you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
              • Leopold Bloom Nov 16,2010 5:06 pm || Up

                mebee.

                • monkeyball Nov 16,2010 5:26 pm || Up

                  how’s about putting fermented cabbage under the tree this year?

                  you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
                • Leopold Bloom Nov 16,2010 5:40 pm || Up

                  definitely.

        • andeux Nov 16,2010 12:56 pm || Up

          Maybe. I do love me some Neil, but so do several other krauthors.

          TINSTAAFK
        • monkeyball Nov 16,2010 1:08 pm || Up

          I think you’re confusing that with his being the biggest non-NYY-hater.

          you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • nevermoor Nov 16,2010 1:29 pm || Up

      Who knew he was hard up for $$$

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  15. ptbnl Nov 16,2010 12:08 pm

    START stopped (despite $200 billion bribe).

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • andeux Nov 16,2010 12:13 pm || Up

      After months of negotiations and the addition of even more money in recent days, the White House thought it had given Mr. Kyl what he wanted.

      TINSTAAFK
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 16,2010 12:46 pm || Up

        Goodness knows we wouldn’t want to do anything to interfere with the chance to use 1,500 nuclear warheads before the next Congress is sworn in.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Leopold Bloom Nov 16,2010 4:44 pm || Up

        Good Grief!

    • monkeyball Nov 16,2010 12:21 pm || Up
      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • nanotrebuchet Nov 16,2010 12:31 pm || Up

        That’s about $100 MM/mile, in case you were wondering.

        • ptbnl Nov 16,2010 12:38 pm || Up

          What was the Big Dig number?

          If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
          • nanotrebuchet Nov 16,2010 12:50 pm || Up

            Horrifying (although, in fairness, the big dig also included improvements to non-Central Artery portions of the roadway as well, including the creation of a new Bus Rapid Transit branch on the T).

            3.5 miles, 6B estimate, 1.7B/mile (2006 dollars).
            Actual cost: 14.6B, 4.2B/mile (2006 dollars).

            About half a billion was “refunded” when a judge ruled against primary contractor.

            Of course, the Central Artery was carrying ~200K motorists per day in 1990 (not sure what the traffic is today). I’m not saying it was worth it, but there was definitely not a “for-show” project.

        • monkeyball Nov 16,2010 12:43 pm || Up

          If unemployment was below, say, 7% nationally, I might have a problem with the cost.

          you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • Soaker Nov 16,2010 12:45 pm || Up

        But if this Merced County supervisor has his way, we’ll soon have a high-speed rail line from Merced to Fresno!!

        What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  16. andeux Nov 16,2010 1:03 pm
    TINSTAAFK
    • monkeyball Nov 16,2010 1:10 pm || Up

      Clyburn grew up hoping to someday be the first minority minority leader.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • nevermoor Nov 16,2010 1:33 pm || Up

      I will say it is silly that the majority party has 3 leaders while the minority has 2. Seems like this third position is an obvious fix.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  17. monkeyball Nov 16,2010 1:35 pm
    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • Leopold Bloom Nov 16,2010 4:52 pm || Up

      How would he feel about spending public moneys to research the proposed ugliness of A’s uniforms?

      • nevermoor Nov 16,2010 4:56 pm || Up

        A Galactic Arc Err

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  18. nevermoor Nov 16,2010 1:53 pm
    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • andeux Nov 16,2010 1:59 pm || Up

      That Pence quote is really something.

      TINSTAAFK
    • nevermoor Nov 16,2010 2:17 pm || Up

      Also:

      Called Stern No

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  19. monkeyball Nov 16,2010 2:23 pm

    This seems like a cheap price for Uggla

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • nevermoor Nov 16,2010 2:25 pm || Up

      Seriously.

      What’s that like Rosales and Ziggy?

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • MikeV Nov 16,2010 3:11 pm || Up

        ZOMG OMAR INFANTE. ALL STAR.

        And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

        Thanks, and go As.

    • grover Nov 16,2010 3:54 pm || Up

      Holy. Shit.

      • monkeyball Nov 16,2010 4:05 pm || Up

        Don’t worry, we’ve still got Cojax.

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  20. JediLeroy Nov 16,2010 2:25 pm

    Many books refer to this mold as “scum,” but I prefer to think of it as a bloom.

    So… scum = bloom. Got it.

    az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
  21. monkeyball Nov 16,2010 2:44 pm

    Wait …

    … is that Olbermann from 0:15-0:17?

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  22. nevermoor Nov 16,2010 3:49 pm

    Can I get a W. T. F.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • MikeV Nov 16,2010 4:05 pm || Up

      Maybe they mean rigor mortis has set in.

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

      • monkeyball Nov 16,2010 4:08 pm || Up

        Or he’s so delicate that they have to keep him immobilized.

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • lenscrafters Nov 16,2010 4:12 pm || Up

      W.T.F.

    • andeux Nov 16,2010 4:14 pm || Up

      I’m not surprised (or disappointed) that the A’s are holding onto him, even at arb pricing. He seems like a better bet to bounce back and be a good player than Sweeney or Davis (or Buck, of course).
      Can’t figure out what Colorado would want with him, though, they seem to always have a surplus of outfielders.

      TINSTAAFK
      • lenscrafters Nov 16,2010 5:56 pm || Up

        Bounce back to what? He’s only had a >1.3 WAR season once. That year (his only above average year) is 3 years and several hamstring injuries + a hernia + a strange disease ago. He’ll cost around 4 million if the A’s tender him a contract. That seems unreasonable considering that, by all accounts, Conor Jackson is bad at baseball and bad at staying healthy. I’d rather keep Buck cause at least he’ll be relatively cheap.

        • monkeyball Nov 16,2010 5:58 pm || Up

          NT him, offer him a nonguaranteed minor-league contract, warehouse him at Sacto.

          you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
          • lenscrafters Nov 16,2010 6:04 pm || Up

            Jackson won’t go for that if he thinks he can get a major league contract. And since there’s already a team inquiring about his services…

            • monkeyball Nov 16,2010 6:13 pm || Up

              Do we care?

              you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
              • lenscrafters Nov 16,2010 6:15 pm || Up

                Yeah, good point. As I’ve made clear, I don’t mind if Jackson is out of the organization.

        • grover Nov 16,2010 6:36 pm || Up

          No way would Jackson get a raise via arbitration. Lowest the A’s could offer with a tender is about $2.5 million… my guess is Jackson’s side would try to hold the line at $3 million.

          • monkeyball Nov 16,2010 6:38 pm || Up

            Worth it? Either way?

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            • grover Nov 16,2010 8:43 pm || Up

              If he’s healthy he’ll hit.

              He offers better OF defense than Cust plus the ability to back-up 1B as needed. If Edwin is going to have a problem with being a part time player then I don’t see anyone else on the roster who can do those things.

              For his career, he has a 294/395/461 line in 608 PA with 52 extra base hits and an 84/65 BB/K rate vs. LHP. Whether the A’s keep Cust or replace him with Berkman… Jackson would be a boost to the bench. Even at $2.5 million.

              Assuming he’s healthy.

          • lenscrafters Nov 16,2010 6:40 pm || Up

            This is true. Either way, I don’t agree with spending ~2.75 million on Jackson.

            • grover Nov 16,2010 8:45 pm || Up

              What if the A’s did a two year deal similar to what I proposed with Edwin… say $2 million base with $500K in incentives plus a $500K buy-out/team option $4.5 million in 2012?

              And assuming Edwin has issues with sticking around in Oakland and wants a full time gig somewhere else.

              • lenscrafters Nov 16,2010 9:14 pm || Up

                Are we also assuming that Rosales and Sweeney are not healthy to start the season? I think only under that condition would I agree with trying to keep Jackson.

                • grover Nov 16,2010 11:26 pm || Up

                  Rosales should be healthy.

                  Sweeney is poo.

    • ptbnl Nov 16,2010 4:17 pm || Up

      ...

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • ptbnl Nov 17,2010 8:46 am || Up

        Sheesh .. tough crowd. I thought I’d get Sal’s blessing at least.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
        • nanotrebuchet Nov 17,2010 8:56 am || Up

          It ain’t FKin’ easy being a wiseguy…

        • JediLeroy Nov 17,2010 1:44 pm || Up

          I thought the F was brilliant.

          az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
  23. ptbnl Nov 16,2010 4:08 pm

    The TPC analysis says “The Bowles-Simpson proposal is indeed an across-the-board tax increase – and a fairly progressive one at that.”

    Unfortunately “The TPC estimate is also static, thus it assumes no behavioral response to the proposed tax law changes” which seems to me to render it entirely useless (except as cover for the wealthy to claim that it is fair).

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • nevermoor Nov 16,2010 4:32 pm || Up
      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • ptbnl Nov 16,2010 5:21 pm || Up

        Obviously not.

        My point was just that assuming that the rich would keep their wealth in its current distribution under a massive overhaul of the tax codes beggars belief.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • ptbnl Nov 17,2010 9:08 am || Up

      How should mortgage interest relief be abolished?

      It’s clearly regressive, and it’s not even that much of a benefit to many home-owners since it just pushes house prices up until the effective mortgage payment is what it would have been without the relief (so really it just benefits the bank that holds the mortgage).

      But if you simply scrap it outright you put pressure on people who (necessarily) budgeted for the relief and suppress prices, pushing many homes even further under water.

      So what about scrapping the interest relief *and* re-adjusting all existing mortgage principals to the amount that would result in the same monthly payment (assuming the lowest tax-bracket for uniformity)?

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • nevermoor Nov 17,2010 9:52 am || Up

        I think the more likely way (in the sense that there aren’t enough grownups in Washington to give this any chance at all either way) would be to announce a multi-year phase-in that would slowly reduce the amount of interest that could be claimed so that people could adjust.

        Your idea is clever, but banks would go apeshit (and probably rightly so).

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • ptbnl Nov 17,2010 12:54 pm || Up

          Fuck the banks.

          Sell it hard (it would benefit the vast majority of the population – including floating a fair number of currently submerged mortgages), and force the republicans to block it.

          If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
          • nevermoor Nov 17,2010 1:04 pm || Up

            Actually it would benefit no one and harm anyone paying more than the minimum tax rate. At least as you describe it.

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
            • ptbnl Nov 17,2010 1:45 pm || Up

              I think:

              The closing of the entitlement would benefit anyone who didn’t own a home, and anyone more than a few years into a conventional mortgage (as the principal/interest ratio of their payments increases).

              The increase in tax revenues would benefit anyone relying on government-funded services.

              The re-setting of mortgage principals would benefit anyone whose mortgage is now underwater.

              No?

              If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
              • nevermoor Nov 17,2010 2:00 pm || Up

                The closing of the entitlement would benefit anyone who didn’t own a home

                Only if you reduced tax rates or something. Removing a subsidy on some doesn’t by definition benefit others.

                anyone more than a few years into a conventional mortgage (as the principal/interest ratio of their payments increases).

                Not clear what that has to do with it. Are you planning on resetting mortgages to 30yrs too?

                The increase in tax revenues would benefit anyone relying on government-funded services.

                Not really, services aren’t paid on a percent-of-revenue basis. It would benefit anyone receiving a chunk of the new windfall, but that’d probably just be Blackwater anyway (unless there was an announced use).

                The re-setting of mortgage principals would benefit anyone whose mortgage is now underwater.

                Not really, because property values would fall too.

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • ptbnl Nov 17,2010 10:52 pm || Up

                  Only if you reduced tax rates or something. Removing a subsidy on some doesn’t by definition benefit others.

                  As it stands the entitlement benefits property owners, so repealing it removes that inequity. The specific way in which it would benefit non-owners would indeed depends on the package that it is a part of. Under B-S that would be a reduction in income tax rates, but even if you did nothing else it would be an absence of the tax increase owners were experiencing.

                  Not clear what that has to do with it. Are you planning on resetting mortgages to 30yrs too?

                  The relief becomes less and less significant as the fraction of the repayments that is interest drops over the lifetime of the mortgage, so the effective cost of each payment increases over time. Scrap the relief, and the repayments are a fixed cost from then on.

                  Not really, services aren’t paid on a percent-of-revenue basis.

                  Yes. What I really meant was an increase in government revenues at no cost to the individual taxpayer represents some sort of a benefit to them. Of course if that additional revenue is then given as a bonus to Blackwater, or back to the banks, it is a moot point.

                  Not really, because property values would fall too.

                  At very least the absolute value of negative equity would drop; it’s also possible that a uniform, system-wide, devaluation (with income remaining fixed) would stimulate the property market.

                  If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
                • nevermoor Nov 18,2010 8:52 am || Up

                  Interesting.

                  I’m having trouble seeing some of these actually playing out, and I think you’re wrong on the second one (If you were into the significantly-reduced-interest-stage your monthly payment just wouldn’t go down much).

                  Either way, though, it’s an interesting idea.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  24. monkeyball Nov 16,2010 4:18 pm

    Tom Verducci, fellow Cust fan:

    1. Jack Cust. This may come as a surprise, given his lack of security with Oakland, but Cust ranks among the best hitters in the AL over the past four seasons: first in walks (377), fifth in OBP (.381) and ninth in adjusted OPS (125) — all while playing in a park that depresses offense.

    There should be a strong market for such a hitter, assuming the Athletics make him available. In the past 11 months, Oakland has non-tendered him, designated him for assignment just before Opening Day, kept him in the minors for more than a month, traded for DeJesus and talked about needing to add power. Athletics outfielders Cust, Conor Jackson, Rajai Davis and Travis Buck are all arbitration eligible — and none of them are listed ahead of Ryan Sweeney, Coco Crisp and DeJesus (combined 2010 home runs: 14) as the Athletics’ starting outfielders. So not all will be back, which makes a trade or non-tender possible.

    Cust is a rare impact bat because he provides on-base percentage and power cheaply — two commodities that have grown to be expensive in the industry.

    Back in 1999, Cust and Werth were drafted eight picks apart in the first round. While Werth is clearly the superior defender and baserunner, his edge at the plate is not as great as you might think. Looking at the past four seasons, check out the similarities between Cust and Werth, as well as other established well-paid outfielders Jason Bay, Nick Swisher and DeJesus (age is as of 2011 Opening Day):
    2007-10
    Player Age PA HRs RBIs BA/OBP/SLG OPS OPS+
    Werth 31 2114 95 300 .282/.380/.506 .885 131
    Cust 32 2142 97 281 .247/.381/.457 .839 125
    Bay 32 2323 94 351 .266/.359/.477 .836 118
    Swisher 30 2489 104 318 .256/.362/.470 .831 118
    DeJesus 31 2301 37 239 .288/.359/.422 .781 108

    Sure, defense is important, and you wouldn’t want Cust roaming rightfield at Petco Park in San Diego. But look at the leftfielders for the NL playoff teams: Pat Burrell, Raul Ibanez, Jonny Gomes and Matt Diaz — nothing close to a Gold Glover in the bunch. Cust would seem to be a good pickup for the Cardinals, Rays, Braves, Nationals or Tigers.

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • Leopold Bloom Nov 16,2010 5:04 pm || Up

      I am just a layman and apparently equal to scum, but Jack in the NL sounds like a real bad idea.

  25. nevermoor Nov 16,2010 4:46 pm
    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 16,2010 6:02 pm || Up

      I have long thought that Vlae is not very smart. Today’s example is his assumption that Oakland’s ballpark moves and Jean Quan’s election have anything to do with one another. They do not.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 16,2010 6:11 pm || Up

        More (Gammon warning).

        The city has been negotiating with a blue ribbon committee appointed by Major League Baseball to determine whether the A’s should stay in Oakland or move to San Jose….

        City Administrator Dan Lindheim, who has been leading the city’s negotiations with Major League Baseball, said the city decided to go ahead with the environmental impact report process, because the league wants to have a new stadium for the A’s in place by Opening Day 2015. Lindheim also said that the league clearly would prefer that the city pick a downtown-waterfront site like the San Francisco Giants did with their ballpark. “Baseball has this vision of downtown-waterfront ballpark, and this site is downtown and it’s on the waterfront,” he said, referring to the Victory Court site.

        (emphasis added to note exactly with whom the City has been negotiating.)

        Gee, it’s almost as though such work has been going on for months! You FKers heard it here first.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • monkeyball Nov 16,2010 6:15 pm || Up

          {scans google maps for San Jose’s waterfront}

          you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
        • monkeyball Nov 16,2010 6:17 pm || Up

          News clarifying yesterday’s #6:

          the league wants to have a new stadium for the A’s in place by Opening Day 2015

          you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 16,2010 6:03 pm || Up

      Also, it’s cute how people think Lew is relevant to the success or failure of Oakland’s ballpark efforts.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • monkeyball Nov 16,2010 6:16 pm || Up

        Yeah, from the interLew, it’s pretty clear that he’s out of the Lewp.

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  26. monkeyball Nov 16,2010 5:06 pm
    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • nevermoor Nov 16,2010 5:16 pm || Up

      “rocket docket” is a common phrase for courts that resolve cases quickly. It isn’t some outrage perpetrated in Florida.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • ptbnl Nov 16,2010 5:22 pm || Up

        What kind of cases though?

        And the Indonesia comment is wrt public observers in court rather than their speed per se.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
        • nevermoor Nov 16,2010 5:41 pm || Up

          I’m just responding to his use of that phrase throughout the amount I could read without overdosing.

          Rocket dockets exist for just about any type of civil matter, but started as a patent litigation thing in Texas ~10-15 years ago.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • oblique Nov 16,2010 6:43 pm || Up

        I wrote an app a couple of jobs ago that would pull info from various databases and spit it all out in the correct format for patent filing. I wanted to call it Docket Rocket but was denied.

        • Leopold Bloom Nov 16,2010 7:08 pm || Up

          I suddenly feel very, very stupid.

          • oblique Nov 17,2010 8:22 am || Up

            Nah, it’s the equivalent of finding papers in a filing cabinet and stapling them together (which, ironically, I suck at in real life).

            Or did you mean coming up with “Docket Rocket?” I thought that was pretty brilliant at the time!

            • monkeyball Nov 17,2010 8:54 am || Up

              I agree.

              I can’t wait ’til Clemens gets prosecuted for perjury …

              you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • Leopold Bloom Nov 16,2010 5:21 pm || Up

      Where the fuck did Taibbi learn to write, Bad Cliche University?

      Selling lead as gold, shit as Chanel No. 5, was the essence of the booming international fraud scheme that created most all of these now-failing home mortgages.

      And apparently the egocentric Mr. Taibbi has not dealt with Florida very much. Yes, Matthew, it is essentially a third-world country wrt civil liberties and consumer protections.

      • andeux Nov 16,2010 5:52 pm || Up

        Taibbi learned to write iFSU.

        TINSTAAFK
        • Leopold Bloom Nov 16,2010 7:00 pm || Up

          Shit, I hope Jim had nothing to do with that self-important douchebag. I know he wouldn’t.

  27. monkeyball Nov 16,2010 6:37 pm

    In college, I played zampogna for the Italian Growth Disaster.

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • nevermoor Nov 16,2010 7:36 pm || Up

      Needs moar colon

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  28. JediLeroy Nov 16,2010 7:04 pm

    As of yesterday, I can no longer send packages over 15 ounces to the USA via air mail. The terrorists have won. It’s slow boat or nothing (which takes 6-8 weeks, missing Christmas).

    az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
    • Leopold Bloom Nov 16,2010 7:07 pm || Up

      Wow. Seriously?! Just Japan into US or is this a reciprocal thing? None, in or out?

      • JediLeroy Nov 16,2010 7:09 pm || Up

        Japan into US only. From US is fine. And it might just be through the Japan Post, which is what I always use to send stuff. I haven’t looked into private shipping companies, but I’d imagine they’d be a little more expensive.

        az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
    • oblique Nov 17,2010 8:24 am || Up

      Just send the anthrax 14 ounces at a time.

      • monkeyball Nov 17,2010 8:54 am || Up

        Or on board an airliner, strapped to a 3yo.

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  29. Poppy Nov 16,2010 7:06 pm

    Okay, then, we won’t go spend our disposable income in your shops, theatres, restaurants… garages…

    And while you’re at it, get all your damn corpses out of our Colma.

    There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
    • Leopold Bloom Nov 16,2010 7:28 pm || Up

      I came to Colma because I had been told that my father, a man named Pedro Paramo, lived there.

      • nanotrebuchet Nov 17,2010 9:01 am || Up

        Don’t the A’s have a catching prospect by the same name?

    • nevermoor Nov 16,2010 7:42 pm || Up

      Well… congestion pricing is always a good idea, it’s just always unpopular.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • ptbnl Nov 16,2010 7:52 pm || Up

        Presumably (unlike on the bridges) you could just exit the freeway and take surface streets around the toll, which may make those neighbourhoods a mess during toll hours.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
        • nevermoor Nov 16,2010 7:55 pm || Up

          What you need is the London system.

          But then non-American = evil.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • nanotrebuchet Nov 17,2010 5:36 am || Up

            What is the London system?

            What strikes me as unique about this plan is that the toll applies at the city border. Wasn’t the London system only a city center charge? I think it takes a different flavor, either in reality or perceived, when the toll is imposed at the city border.

            The other thing is that SF does not have the most convenient/extensive/affordable public transit if you’re coming into the city. The extent to which this will encourage public transit seems dubious to me.

            • nanotrebuchet Nov 17,2010 5:37 am || Up

              Re: my last para, that’s my perception as a 6-year NRAF who only ever commuted to SF for 10 weeks in 2003.

              • nevermoor Nov 17,2010 9:57 am || Up

                BART, I hear, works fine from parts of the south bay to parts of the city. If you don’t work along the market street corridor, though, it would probably be a real pain.

                The question with any of these measures is what you’re using the money for. In this case, if they put all the net revenue towards lowering south-of-SF BART fares I would probably support it.

                You’re certainly right about the city border part, but it is certainly true that the freeways are plugged and charging for their use would more appropriately price the resource.

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • nanotrebuchet Nov 17,2010 10:05 am || Up

                  I have zero faith that the money would be used wisely/not raided to pay for non-transit outstanding obligations. YMMV.

                  BART can get you to the city from the southern peninsula, but not the “south bay.” For that you need to take CalTrain.

                • nevermoor Nov 17,2010 10:12 am || Up

                  Sure, especially if they don’t announce a use for the $$$. As a revenue grab it’s less appealing.

                  And fair enough. I routinely misuse “south bay”

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • monkeyball Nov 17,2010 10:17 am || Up

                  euphemism?

                  I routinely misuse “south bay”

                  you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
                • nevermoor Nov 17,2010 10:18 am || Up

                  … in revenue grabs.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • monkeyball Nov 17,2010 10:34 am || Up

                  I always charge extra when someone wants to cross over to the tip of the peninsula.

                  you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
                • Leopold Bloom Nov 17,2010 11:39 am || Up

                  You touch my Pacifica and I’m having you arrested.

                • monkeyball Nov 17,2010 11:47 am || Up

                  I’d prefer to move down to your more desirable, broader-based downtown San Jose area.

                  you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
                • ptbnl Nov 17,2010 12:06 pm || Up

                  I thought Silicon Valley was up north.

                  If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
                • nanotrebuchet Nov 17,2010 1:40 pm || Up

                  That’s silicone valley.

                • nevermoor Nov 17,2010 12:06 pm || Up

                  I’m more of a Mussel Rock Park fan, myself.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • Poppy Nov 18,2010 12:14 am || Up

                  Northern Peninsula. No farther south than Millbrae, which is just barely Northern Mid Peninsula.

                  There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
            • ptbnl Nov 17,2010 9:14 am || Up

              The London system is a central zone that you have to pay to enter, with video cameras set up on every street crossing the threshold linked to a database of vehicles and users. Once you cross the threshold you have 24 hours to pay if you haven’t pre-paid.

              While the principle is good, the degree of surveillance that the implementation requires is troubling (the UK is the most monitored country in the world now, I believe).

              If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
              • nevermoor Nov 17,2010 9:54 am || Up

                Yeah, it would be better to do it with fastracks or something, but the implementation of that would be near-impossible.

                But the theory of “if you want to take a car downtown you pay a lot” is sound.

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • nanotrebuchet Nov 17,2010 10:01 am || Up

                  Could that be done by eliminating (some or all) city parking? That would allow you to do it without the surveillance. If you want to bring a car into the city center, then you pay by proxy by paying for parking.

                  Again, what I don’t understand about the SF proposal is that it targets the entire city as opposed to the downtown area. Downtowns are usually small and well-trafficked by buses and trams, but overall any given city is not. For example, in Boston we never take the car to go downtown, but we always drive to the zoo or arboretum because there is little traffic and public transit won’t get you there/takes 3x as long.

                • nevermoor Nov 17,2010 10:13 am || Up

                  The reason, presumably, is that the freeway traffic doesn’t care where you’re going.

                  And it looks like this is mostly a rush-hour pricing scheme, so your trip to the zoo would be fine.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  30. Leopold Bloom Nov 16,2010 7:13 pm
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 16,2010 7:57 pm || Up

      Works best when, like Shadyac, you earn millions first, and then free yourself of all possessions and move to the trailer park.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  31. FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 16,2010 7:59 pm

    Two columns in a month is not what I’d hoped for from the formerly prolific Mr. Goodman.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  32. JediLeroy Nov 16,2010 8:44 pm

    Until I cut my curly hair recently, all the kids would ask me if I had permed it (since it’s unfathomable for a Japanese that such hair could be natural). The question actually bothered me, since I’m not the type of person to get my hair professionally treated. It turns out that the kids not only aren’t able to fathom hair that isn’t straight and black, but also aren’t allowed to have anything else. If your hair is wavy, curly, or not-black (or extremely dark brown) by nature, you have to receive a permission slip from a doctor showing that it’s natural.

    I’ve heard stories of a Japanese girl in the area who was so embarrassed of her naturally wavy brown hair that she routinely died it black and got a straight perm so that she wouldn’t have to get a note from the doctor explaining that it was OK for her to be different.

    So, now that my hair’s all gone, the kids have decided to ask me “why” my eyes are blue. How the hell do you answer that question?

    az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
    • nevermoor Nov 16,2010 10:11 pm || Up

      Because I look at the sky so much.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • Leopold Bloom Nov 16,2010 10:21 pm || Up

      “Because I have a soul.”

      [laugh manically]

      [refuse to engage in the topic again]

  33. nanotrebuchet Nov 17,2010 5:20 am

    E5, DeJesus, the entire outfield, Japanese pitcher – is it just me, or is trying the “take a bunch of shit and see what sticks” offseason plan once again?

    • oblique Nov 17,2010 8:35 am || Up

      Not just you, but to me without E5, it seems a lot less that way. We know what we’re going to get (from what I understand?) from DDJ, and Iwakuma seems less shitty (again, from what I understand) than most acquisitions in recent offseasons. But E5 definitely gives this thing a “hey, a warm body with potentially some skill!” feel.

      The thing I don’t get (especially with the 3B strategy, but also OF, other than DDJ and Crisp) is, what is the evaluation period? I’m assuming like most that one of the two will get traded, but neither has particularly high value, so what if they end up with both (and the current glut of uninspiring 3rd OF) going into ST?

      • nanotrebuchet Nov 17,2010 9:00 am || Up

        DDJ is quality, but was hurt last year. I recall a Jason Kendall low buy a few years ago with a similar feel. Coco isn’t a paragon of health. CoJax, Rajai, Sweeney, Buck, etc. all are mediocre and/or injured, each too good to simply cut bait on but collectively a pile of suckage. E5 has the warm body feel. Iwakuma Goes to White Castle is nice, but he’s also coming from another league and country.

        I’m not *against* the plan, it just seems like a familiar tune is all.

        • monkeyball Nov 17,2010 9:25 am || Up

          If he’s able to adapt successfully and blend into his surroundings: Iwakuma Chameleon?

          you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
        • nevermoor Nov 17,2010 10:04 am || Up

          DDJ was hurt, but in the freak injury way not the health-is-a-tool way, so I’m not too concerned.

          Coco had a great year, when healthy, but has health-is-a-tool issues which mean we need a second CF. Currently that’s Rajai, so you need him too.

          Sweeney would be a perfectly good RF option if his knees->defense are back, and that seems like something you’d know pretty quickly in ST.

          Buck, I can’t imagine we keep since we’ve been screwing him for years and his serfdom is all used up. CoJax I honestly don’t get at all. I hope I’m wrong but I see Jake Fox written all over him.

          3B I honestly have no idea what is going on. I’m shocked we are one of the super-serious Beltre pursuers, since Kz is hardly the team’s weakness, but if we get him we presumably cut/trade Kz and E5 for little return. If we don’t, I have no idea what we do. It’s perplexing.

          What I really don’t understand (at all) is why Cust is just floating out there with nearly no interest. I think you do have to prefer Berkman (I’ve been swayed on that), but if we jettison Cust for a Nick Johnson or something I’m going to be pissed.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • monkeyball Nov 17,2010 10:12 am || Up

            I agree with all of that (except maybe the Berkman thing; I’m not yet swayed — though to be fair both he and Cust could be washed up).

            Weird thing is with Kz — IIRC, since even before the E5 grab, there were mutterings from th4e beat writers that the A’s weren’t convinced his D was all it was cracked up to be by advanced metrics; plus, he was absolutely atrocious at the plate. Who knows — maybe he didn’t play nice with mgmt as well?

            Frankly, I still don’t understand why we got rid of Hannahan (for, essentially, nothing) and ended up ultimately replacing him with an inferior glove and not really even superior bat (H2N3 at least takes pitches and draws walks and avoids GIDPs).

            you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
            • nevermoor Nov 17,2010 10:15 am || Up

              Yeah, Kz’s regression was ugly, and sub-.300 OBPs are suck.

              It’s entirely possible the A’s have an internal defensive stat that says bad things about Kz. If that’s the case they have to see him as a gaping black hole of suck, and E5 is a clear improvement (since we know he can hit, and he could theoretically not give away too many runs defensively).

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
              • monkeyball Nov 17,2010 10:20 am || Up

                Also, apparently his bad back may be badder than in-season reports indicated.

                Maybe Clay Wood needs to put in a Tempurpedic 6 inches below the soil at third.

                you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
            • andeux Nov 17,2010 11:25 am || Up

              We got rid of Hannahan for close to nothing because he has basically no value.

              Kouzmanoff is more like the platonic ideal of Hannahan, as you might say. His worst year with the bat (this one) was still better than Hannahan’s career numbers, and his better years were much, much better. I don’t think the defensive difference (if it even exists at all) is nearly enough to make up for that.
              E5 I don’t really get at all. I like the power, but he seems like an inferior choice overall to Kz at 3B or to Cust (or the free-agent options) at DH.

              TINSTAAFK
          • oblique Nov 17,2010 10:51 am || Up

            Count me among those holding out hope for CoJax based on promise shown 4 years ago. He’s my new Travis Buck.

          • andeux Nov 17,2010 11:15 am || Up

            CoJax I honestly don’t get at all. I hope I’m wrong but I see Jake Fox written all over him.

            Jackson may never hit well again, but that seems like a lousy comparison.
            Jackson was a high pick, top prospect, and had three seasons (2006-2008) as a full-time player with an OPS+ above 100. (Per the discussion above, it’s true that in two of those three years he still wasn’t very valuable overall according to WAR, but that’s partly because he was playing mostly 1B and the defensive metrics like him less at 1B than in the outfield).
            By contrast, Fox was never considered much of a prospect, and when we got him he had less than half a season in the majors, with an OPS+ of 97.

            TINSTAAFK
            • nevermoor Nov 17,2010 11:16 am || Up

              I meant in the sense that he gets a lot of playing time, sucks, and costs us at least a WAR.

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • grover Nov 17,2010 12:39 pm || Up

        E5 was a $20K waiver claim to pick up a guy who hit 20+ HR in a part time gig last year. Can’t catch lightning in a bottle if you don’t have a bottle.

        • oblique Nov 17,2010 1:07 pm || Up

          True enough — I think the “lightning in a bottle” feel of these moves is what NT is referring to; at least, that’s what I was speaking to. To me, DDJ seems like more of a sure thing (as much as there ever is such a thing), injury effects notwithstanding.

          Also, not that this matters to me that much, but it’ll cost more than $20K to figure out whether they’ve actually caught the lightning; sounds like that number could actually be significant.

  34. MikeV Nov 17,2010 10:34 am

    5/45 offer to Beltre.

    Hmmm.

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

    • monkeyball Nov 17,2010 10:37 am || Up

      That ain’t gonna do it. Seems like a weird negotiating position to start with.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • andeux Nov 17,2010 11:31 am || Up

        Yeah. Not enough money, and maybe too many years.

        TINSTAAFK
    • nevermoor Nov 17,2010 10:37 am || Up

      Not good enough.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • monkeyball Nov 17,2010 11:01 am || Up
        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
        • Leopold Bloom Nov 17,2010 11:42 am || Up

          Everything’s about Joe vs. the Volcano with you.

          • monkeyball Nov 17,2010 12:55 pm || Up

            It’s always gonna be something with you, isn’t it, Bloom?

            you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • grover Nov 17,2010 12:38 pm || Up

      ESPN Deportes is saying 5 years/$64 million. Same as he got from Seattle back in the day.

  35. nevermoor Nov 17,2010 1:23 pm

    I’m shocked. Shocked I tell you.

    Democrats elected Nancy Pelosi as their minority leader on Wednesday, but only after a brutal two days of arguing behind closed doors and a 150-43 vote that revealed a bloc of disgruntled Democrats to be firmly in the anti-Pelosi camp.

    Both the landslide vote and the Politico spin that this was ever in doubt are TOTALLY UNEXPECTED.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • nevermoor Nov 17,2010 1:25 pm || Up

      More SHOCKING SPIN:

      It’s a vivid illustration of how congressional leadership elections are decided by factors often barely visible to the naked eye.

      Invisible factors like leading the House through one of it’s more productive sessions in history.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • Leopold Bloom Nov 17,2010 10:31 pm || Up

        Hey nm, you are much more in the know than me. I only know that Politico just kind of “showed up” five years ago or so, but what spin are they supposed to have? Where the hell did they come from? I thought the point was to be non-partisan.

        • monkeyball Nov 18,2010 5:53 am || Up

          Imagine if David Broder tried to simultaneously ape Drudge and Wonkette. It’s that (or those) kind of “nonpartisan.”

          you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
          • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 18,2010 8:37 am || Up

            I’ve always referred to Broder-types as “Establishmentarians,” whose default responses to any political issue is to back the incumbant legislative leaders. The right answer to Establishmentarians may lean Democrat or Republican on any given matter, but will pretty much always choose small incremental variations on the status quo as suggested by those who represent the status quo.

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • nevermoor Nov 18,2010 8:54 am || Up

            Right, basically it was created to serve blog-ish political news directed at people in the industry (there’s a print version circulated in DC).

            It’s goal is circulation, which it gets by breaking any story any of its sources feed it (often the sort of silly GOP points that result in a Drudge link -> high traffic -> profit).

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"

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