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Grilling on a Thin Line 110

  1. Interesting thought-experiment by Tango. Don’t let Beane see it.
  2. This looks like something I really want to see. And Drew’s right — the Warner Archive is a genuine treasure. Have yet to order anything … mostly due to the fact that I’d have a hard time stopping at any reasonable number of titles. This, though, I have to buy.
  3. Hale … Jr. likely to be Jays’ next Skipper
  4. Cue up the Patsy Cline …
  5. A giddy, thong-flinging Santa Claus (LB wants to know if he threw one to Slusser)
  6. This is a sad, sweet story

Rangers at Yankees @ 1:07 PT, Rangers up 3-1

Phillies at Giants @ 4:57 PT, Giants up 2-1

110 thoughts on “Grilling on a Thin Line

  1. batgirl Oct 20,2010 11:17 am

    When I get a post like this on my facebook feed I just want to close my account:

    Update: lol
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    • nevermoor Oct 20,2010 11:21 am || Up

      is that supposed to make any sense?

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • andeux Oct 20,2010 11:28 am || Up

        It appears to be a quote for some put options. And is apparently laugh out loud funny.

        TINSTAAFK
        • batgirl Oct 21,2010 9:02 am || Up

          Hmmmmm…explains why I have had no contact with this person since high school.

    • monkeyball Oct 20,2010 11:22 am || Up

      That’s what you get for being a fan of Nate Silver. Or Wil Wheaton.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  2. nanotrebuchet Oct 20,2010 11:26 am

    • Poppy Oct 20,2010 11:45 am || Up

      wtf is going on there?

      There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
  3. nanotrebuchet Oct 20,2010 11:29 am

    4.

    Grim LeRogue — who legally changed his name from Joe Rogan (!)

  4. nevermoor Oct 20,2010 11:29 am

    6:

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  5. monkeyball Oct 20,2010 11:43 am
    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • nanotrebuchet Oct 20,2010 11:49 am || Up

      How is that at all important, unusual, exciting, newsworthy, or scandalous?

  6. nanotrebuchet Oct 20,2010 11:44 am

    A small subset of the population, typically well-educated, white and in the upper-middle class, have grown skeptical of immunizations.

    I think at this point it’s safe to say that Oprah and Jenny McCarthy are the greatest public health hazards in this country/

    • Poppy Oct 20,2010 11:52 am || Up

      “He didn’t cry,” she said. “He was laboring to breathe, He didn’t move. He was perfect. He was just at peace.”

      Sorry, I’ve actually seen someone laboring to breathe while minutes from death, and know what? It’s the most unpeaceful fucking thing imaginable.

      There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
  7. andeux Oct 20,2010 11:53 am

    1. Yes, interesting experiment. Per the comments, the conclusion seems to be that short-term free agent deals are better WAR/$ values than long-term ones. Given the way the A’s have spent what money they had in the past few off-seasons, that seems to be something that Beane already believes.

    Of course Beane has had more misses (Sheets, Gross, Giambi, Nomar) than hits (Crisp) with this strategy, but the same is true of tango’s team: of his 25 players, only one (Beltre) had a star-level performance, and only 5 others (including Crisp) exceeded 2 WAR. While these contracts are clearly less risky than the longer-term bigger-money deals, they are still high variance in the sense that you can easily spend $10 million on someone and get very little in return.

    Comment #9 there also raises a point that’s worth keeping in mind: it’s possible that teams do (and/or should) value WAR non-linearly (perhaps due to the knapsack problem).

    TINSTAAFK
    • monkeyball Oct 20,2010 4:46 pm || Up
      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  8. FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 20,2010 12:03 pm

    4. That fan attack story is scary, about as unfunny as you can get…except for the dude’s name being Grim LeRogue. I wish that was my name. Maybe without the Grim part…perhaps Jim LeRogue.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  9. monkeyball Oct 20,2010 12:05 pm
    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 20,2010 1:43 pm || Up

      Picture worth a stand-alone:

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • nanotrebuchet Oct 20,2010 2:11 pm || Up

        Christ on a stick, it’s Drew Carey.

        • monkeyball Oct 20,2010 2:16 pm || Up

          Greg Proops. The whole thing has been a gag.

          you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
          • nevermoor Oct 20,2010 2:18 pm || Up

            I would only be 60% surprised.

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • nevermoor Oct 20,2010 1:57 pm || Up

      Can the “truth is truth” part become the next coming of the Kanye joke?
      I’m envisioning a url that puts that sound over whatever you link in.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • Poppy Oct 20,2010 10:12 pm || Up

      You didn’t have to force that the world was round.

      The heliocentric thing, however…

      There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
  10. monkeyball Oct 20,2010 12:05 pm
    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • nanotrebuchet Oct 20,2010 12:37 pm || Up

      Johnson Iced (almost).

      A father of one of my high school classmates was supposedly in President Nixon’s secret service detail; his job was to run the projector in the White House movie screening room. Now he’s an IRS agent who moonlights as a children’s magician.

      • Leopold Bloom Oct 21,2010 10:48 am || Up

        why would you moonlight as a magician? Has he made a terrible mistake?

  11. nanotrebuchet Oct 20,2010 2:03 pm

    I know that there are subtleties and legal wrangling and bureaucratic this-n-thats to wade through, but it really does feel like we’re through the looking glass when Republicans are suing to kill DADT and the Democrat administration is fighting to keep DADT alive.

    • nevermoor Oct 20,2010 2:09 pm || Up

      Concur.

      I can understand why the appeal is necessary, but the stay simply isn’t.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  12. monkeyball Oct 20,2010 2:08 pm

    Ah, now that’s the TX pitching we’ve been waiting for.

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  13. nanotrebuchet Oct 20,2010 2:13 pm

    WTF? Movies that I stood in line to see as a 12-year-old are not old enough to be remade.

    • Poppy Oct 20,2010 10:14 pm || Up

      HAHAHAHAHA!!! How’s it feel, old man?

      There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
    • Leopold Bloom Oct 21,2010 10:49 am || Up

      welcome to the club.

    • ptbnl Oct 21,2010 10:52 am || Up

      Wait till your oldest turns 30 …

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • monkeyball Oct 21,2010 10:53 am || Up
      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • nevermoor Oct 21,2010 11:02 am || Up

        As always, XKCD wins:

        Scary

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  14. nevermoor Oct 20,2010 2:45 pm

    CC is a crafty veteran who knows how to pitch to the scoreboard.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • nanotrebuchet Oct 20,2010 3:41 pm || Up

      a veteran would pitch to the batter, not the scoreboard. that’s like, in the complete opposite direction!

  15. Soaker Oct 20,2010 5:10 pm

    Another one bites the dust; Grandpa Skaalen canned. 20 Free Kraut Reward Points to anyone who can name every hitting coach in the Beane era.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • nevermoor Oct 20,2010 5:17 pm || Up

      Noodles McBat

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • monkeyball Oct 20,2010 5:24 pm || Up

        Sluggy von Chokeup

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
        • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 20,2010 6:22 pm || Up

          Count Workman

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • monkeyball Oct 20,2010 6:35 pm || Up

            Slapsworth J. Decustinator

            you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
            • JediLeroy Oct 20,2010 6:51 pm || Up

              Sucksatbaseball McCan’tteachhowtohitterson

              Too far?

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    • monkeyball Oct 20,2010 5:27 pm || Up

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • Leopold Bloom Oct 21,2010 10:50 am || Up

        Ooooo, I wanna sit there instead!

        • nevermoor Oct 21,2010 10:53 am || Up

          I think they should be rearranged.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • ptbnl Oct 21,2010 10:58 am || Up

            Only if we can exhume Wallace Hartley.

            If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • andeux Oct 20,2010 5:48 pm || Up

      No points for me, as I had to cheat (a lot), but it seems to be:
      1999 Dave Hudgens
      2000-3 Thad Bosley
      2003-5 Hudgens
      2006 Gerald Perry
      2007-8 Ty Van Burkleo
      2009-10 Jim Skaalen
      2011 Perry

      TINSTAAFK
      • nevermoor Oct 20,2010 8:44 pm || Up

        So I was right.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 21,2010 4:06 pm || Up

        And since 2006 saw the A’s advance further into the post-season than any of those otehr squads, naturally they’re bringing Perry back!

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • ptbnl Oct 21,2010 4:12 pm || Up

          Hey, if he can make a hitter out of Frank Thomas …

          If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  16. andeux Oct 20,2010 5:53 pm

    Dead last. About 2.5 American Standard deviations below the mean. Though someone on BTF has already raised the important question of how troughs are counted.

    TINSTAAFK
    • monkeyball Oct 20,2010 5:56 pm || Up

      Hah! I was certain that the link was going to be some abstruse offensive analysis calculating the AUC …

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • Leopold Bloom Oct 21,2010 10:51 am || Up

        Clearly propaganda by the anti-trough establishment.

    • monkeyball Oct 20,2010 5:59 pm || Up

      Also, I presume that’s using baseball seating capacity — Raiders fans surely must emulate the players on the field.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 20,2010 6:26 pm || Up

      The ratio would have been even worse in the pre-tarp days, since now that a sliver of the third deck is re-opened, I believe all the restrooms are available, even with ~10K fewer seats.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • nanotrebuchet Oct 20,2010 8:27 pm || Up

      American Standard deviations

      excellent!

      • monkeyball Oct 21,2010 4:20 pm || Up

        But what’s the pee value?

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  17. monkeyball Oct 20,2010 6:05 pm

    This Phillies team has one of the all-time great Spoonerized rosters.

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  18. FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 20,2010 6:24 pm

    It is long past time to see the Jairo that made me quake with fear.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 20,2010 6:33 pm || Up

      Yeah, that’s him.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • monkeyball Oct 20,2010 6:35 pm || Up

      Yahoo still has him in an A’s cap

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • batgirl Oct 20,2010 6:40 pm || Up

      I love the name Bastardo!

      • nanotrebuchet Oct 20,2010 6:48 pm || Up

        if only he could have beaned griffey…

    • monkeyball Oct 20,2010 7:21 pm || Up

      We should have nicknamed him Hierophant when he was on the A’s

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  19. nanotrebuchet Oct 20,2010 7:30 pm

    now that’s how you do gba at a ballgame. fucking fantastic.

    • Leopold Bloom Oct 21,2010 10:52 am || Up

      AGREED! I thought the same thing last night. If you’re gonna force people/teams to do it, which clearly Selugswerth is, then SF did it right.

      • nanotrebuchet Oct 21,2010 10:55 am || Up

        Patriotic songs were meant to be singalongs.

        • Leopold Bloom Oct 21,2010 11:12 am || Up

          I dunno, but it was weird enough that I said what you said, verbatim. And trust me, that probably don’t happen too often, though I am aglow with anticipation to your being here!

        • monkeyball Oct 21,2010 11:15 am || Up

          e.g., Oakland, Oakland uber Anaheim

          you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • batgirl Oct 21,2010 12:14 pm || Up

      I wasn’t watching at that time. What did they do, Gay Men’s Chorus?

      • ptbnl Oct 21,2010 12:24 pm || Up

        Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • nanotrebuchet Oct 21,2010 12:43 pm || Up

        Just a guy on a violin doing a quick rendition while the crowd sang along.

        • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 21,2010 12:48 pm || Up

          Interestingly, I heard this on the radio while doing dishes, and not via TV. And on the radio it was horrid…there was none of the crowd singalong audio, and whatever the radio folks used to bring in the violin sound was really low quality. While I assume the violinist was accomplished and played well, what I heard sounded much like what I hear from the BUSD 4th graders practicing.

          Blessedly, my BUSD 4th grader chose the clarinet.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • Leopold Bloom Oct 21,2010 1:41 pm || Up

            Um, this is the version that I liked. To be fair, I like a lot of folky type music.

            • monkeyball Oct 21,2010 1:52 pm || Up

              I rather enjoyed Waif-Eye Girl’s rendition the other night.

              you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • nevermoor Oct 21,2010 1:15 pm || Up

        Having them do It’s Raining Men would be 10000% better than anything that actually will happen.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • ptbnl Oct 21,2010 1:54 pm || Up

          Actually, more advanced metrics say it would only be 9847%.

          If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
          • nevermoor Oct 21,2010 2:01 pm || Up

            You forgot to adjust for flyover-rage.

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
            • ptbnl Oct 21,2010 2:15 pm || Up

              That’s been offset by the rise of the torture meme.

              If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  20. FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 20,2010 8:26 pm

    This has been a very entertaining game. Wonder how many innings Oswalt will go if it stays tied.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  21. nanotrebuchet Oct 20,2010 8:37 pm

    wow, great game.

    • Soaker Oct 20,2010 8:37 pm || Up

      I’m not ecstatic about the result, but it shows that 3 hour 40 minute games (approx.) can be pretty damned good.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • nevermoor Oct 20,2010 8:46 pm || Up

      I just can’t catch a break.

      4 of the 5 teams I don’t hate were knocked out in the first round. Now the Phillies are going to choke this away.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  22. monkeyball Oct 21,2010 7:54 am

    Last night was a tough one for strong adherents of plate discipline. No way do the A’s, for instance, score off of Oswalt there — Posey’s hit was six inches off the plate, and Uribe’s sac fly … maybe it was just barely over the plate, but calf-high — no idea how he got enough wood on that to drive the run in.

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • ptbnl Oct 21,2010 8:00 am || Up

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • monkeyball Oct 21,2010 10:04 am || Up

        Now hold on just a sec. If a low-run environment (facing Oswalt certainly counts, even with him coming out of the pen; and with a massive premium on a single run and zero worth to subsequent runs) lowers the cost of bunting, wouldn’t it also lower the cost of expanding the swing zone?

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
        • ptbnl Oct 21,2010 11:00 am || Up

          I was just thinking about some of the abysmal strike outs swinging out of the zone earlier in the game.

          If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 21,2010 8:41 am || Up

      Posey’s hit showed either great thinking or lucky guessing on his part…Oswalt had worked him away the prior three pitches, so Posey was sitting on that same location to take the ball to right, and did so beautifully. One inside fastball earlier in the AB from Oswalt probably prevents Posey from being on that outside pitch.

      The sac fly was Uribe getting fooled on a changeup, but still managing to maintain enough balance to keep the bat back. Good pitch from Oswalt turned into one of those “just gotta tip you cap” moments.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • nevermoor Oct 21,2010 9:26 am || Up

        Posey is going to be a great player, I just worry he’s going to become the Bay Area’s Derek Jeter.

        The slobbery BJs he was getting last night are a concern, and the glossing over his failure to block the wild pitches are too.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • andeux Oct 21,2010 11:17 am || Up

          If he were on the A’s, some of that slobber would be ours.

          TINSTAAFK
          • nevermoor Oct 21,2010 11:20 am || Up

            I just worry he’ll get to the “he took that strike 3 looking like a REAL PRO” level.

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
            • monkeyball Oct 21,2010 11:26 am || Up

              The AntiCust?

              you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
            • Leopold Bloom Oct 21,2010 11:29 am || Up

              part of MY problem with Krup and Kuip or whatever is their unfaltering homerism. I know Fosse gave us about a decade of that, but I’m pretty sure neither Bill nor KK ever suffered from this.

              • nevermoor Oct 21,2010 11:53 am || Up

                I’m just saying it’s a concern for me.

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • Leopold Bloom Oct 21,2010 12:05 pm || Up

                  Nah, they’re fickle. No way they deify him. They don’t do that. Just look at Bonds and Will Clark and…Jeff…Kent…hmmm. You may have a point.

  23. Poppy Oct 21,2010 8:29 am

    Ignernt ‘mercans iz ignernt.

    So hey, let’s just let them be that way, because… photography and intertubes rule.

    There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
    • nanotrebuchet Oct 21,2010 9:26 am || Up

      “It is our tradition to cover head while you are in [the temple] and even he will have to cover his head.”

      Problem solved.

      • monkeyball Oct 21,2010 9:30 am || Up

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  24. nevermoor Oct 21,2010 10:13 am

    I fully agree with this:

    Looking back at the last two years, if there was one portion of the government that acted pretty much EXACTLY the way you would think Democrats would want it to act, passing great legislation in a timely manner and really advancing the ball on issues important to Democrats, it would be Nancy Pelosi’s House. She’s pretty much been the glue that that has kept the entire party together, as was evident during the HCR saga.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • monkeyball Oct 21,2010 10:29 am || Up

      Dammit. That was going to be nmb8 in a new Grill.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  25. nevermoor Oct 21,2010 10:13 am

    Maybe there’s more to this going galt for great justice idea than I thought.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"

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