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Is Braden the worst pitcher with a perfect game? 39

This arose out of a set of emails at work, and I figured I’d post it here since I hadn’t really thought through it before.  First off, here’s the list (the third column is career ERA+, by baseball-reference, as a starting point):

Dallas Braden     05-09-2010 96  Oakland 4, Tampa Bay 0
Mark Buehrle      07-23-2009 121 Chicago 5, Tampa Bay 0
David Cone        07-18-1999 121 New York 6, Montreal 0
David Wells       05-17-1998 108 New York 4, Minnesota 0
Kenny Rogers      07-28-1994 108 Texas 4, California 0
Mike Witt         09-30-1984 105 California 1, Texas 0
Len Barker        05-15-1981 94  Cleveland 3, Toronto 0
Catfish Hunter    05-08-1968 105 Oakland 4, Minnesota 0
Don Larsen        10-08-1956 99  New York 2, Brooklyn 0*
Charlie Robertson 04-30-1922 90  Chicago 2, Detroit 0
Addie Joss        10-02-1908 142 Cleveland 1, Chicago 0
Cy Young          05-05-1904 138 Boston 3, Philadelphia 0
Roy Halladay      05-29-2010 136 Philadelphia 1, Florida 0
Randy Johnson     05-18-2004 136 Arizona 2, Atlanta 0
Dennis Martinez   07-28-1991 106 Montreal 2, Los Angeles 0
Tom Browning      09-16-1988 98  Cincinnati 1, Los Angeles 0
Sandy Koufax      09-09-1965 131 Los Angeles 1, Chicago 0
Jim Bunning       06-21-1964 114 Philadelphia 6, New York 0
Monte Ward        06-17-1880 119 Providence 5, Buffalo 0
Lee Richmond      06-12-1880 94  Worcester 1, Cleveland 0

So the only pitchers to throw a perfect game with career ERAs below average are: Braden, Barker, Larsen, Robertson, Browning, and Richmond.

Richmond played a LONG time ago, before the modern era when there were things like a strike zone and 4-ball walks. Also, in the season he threw a perfect game, he pitched 590 innings. I’m going to exclude him because I don’t really know what to do with him, and we can say worst perfect game pitcher in the modern era.

Because it is really difficult to compare counting stats across eras (Braden is active, Barker is the 70s, Larsen is the 50s, Browning is the 80s, and Robertson is the 20s), I’m going to see if WAR can help.

Braden    3.2 WAR in 4 seasons  1.0 WAR in his perfect game season
Barker    12.6 / 11             2.3
Larsen    10.9 / 14             2.6
Browning  19.5 / 12             2.8
Robertson 3.2 / 8               3.6

From this, it looks clear to me that Browning is safe since he averaged nearly 2 WAR/season, and Barker is safe as the only other pitcher over 1. That leaves Braden, Larsen, and Robertson.

Robertson broke into the league in 1922 as a 26 year old and put up two great seasons. After that he was garbage for five more before retiring. Larsen broke in in 1953 and was good, but not great, for four years. After that, he had two more good years in the other 10. Braden broke in in 2007, and was terrible (6.72 ERA in 72 IP). He didn’t have a good year until 2009, and has been fine so far this year.

I don’t think the choice is Robertson, since his peak was quite high. For my money I would probably pick Larsen, who was blah for a long time over Braden, but it’s close. Larsen also isn’t on everyone’s list because his perfect game was in the post season.

39 thoughts on “Is Braden the worst pitcher with a perfect game?

  1. nevermoor Jul 29,2010 2:24 pm

    Thoughts you FKers?

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  2. FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 29,2010 2:32 pm

    I very distinctly remember being told in ’81 that Len Barker had thrown a perfecto, and saying “Len Barker? He sucks!”

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • nevermoor Jul 29,2010 2:40 pm || Up

      He never sucked like Braden sucked in 2007.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • andeux Jul 29,2010 3:04 pm || Up

        That’s a little unfair to Braden given that in 2007
        a) He was a rookie with a weak draft/scouting pedigree who got promoted after all of 11 starts in AAA
        b) His peripherals were actually not so bad (4.50 FIP vs. 6.72 ERA)
        Since then, he has 300 innings of being consistently (a bit) above average.

        When Barker (who, looking at his stats and age was also probably brought up a bit prematurely) threw his, he had about 500 below-average innings under his belt.

        TINSTAAFK
        • nevermoor Jul 29,2010 3:16 pm || Up

          I’m not seeing it.

          On Braden: His ERA was garbage, and his xFIP was 4.94. He walked over 3 per 9.

          On the comparison: Barker had exactly one season with a FIP > 4.5 until the last two years of his career. His next highest FIP was 3.52.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • andeux Jul 29,2010 3:34 pm || Up

            He walked over 3 per 9.
            ??
            League average is 3.3 BB/9. Braden has always been better than that, and has also gotten better each year.
            Barker had been worse than that for 5 straight years at the time of his perfect game.

            It’s fair to point out that I used a bit of a double standard by citing Braden’s FIP for 2007 to argue that he was not as bad as you say, but using Barker’s actual ERA to classify him as below average. But you are doing the same in the reverse direction: Fangraphs doesn’t compute xFIP for the 70s and 80s, but if you want to use that stat as a basis for comparison, what do you suppose it would say about Barker in 1979 (4.92 ERA, 3.52 FIP, 6.09 K/9 vs. 4.59 BB/9)?

            TINSTAAFK
            • nevermoor Jul 29,2010 3:40 pm || Up

              I’m saying if we stick to FIP, Braden’s 4.50 is at least 0.98 worse than all but one of Barker’s first 9 seasons.

              I’m also saying that FIP is probably making Braden’s 2007 look less shitty than it was.

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
              • andeux Jul 29,2010 3:50 pm || Up

                FIP makes Barker look less shitty than he was almost every year of his career.

                TINSTAAFK
                • nevermoor Jul 29,2010 3:53 pm || Up

                  Maybe his defense sucked. That would, after all, be the point of FIP

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • mikeA Jul 29,2010 9:44 pm || Up

                  ERA is probably better than FIP in a huge sample like a whole career.

                • nevermoor Jul 29,2010 11:31 pm || Up

                  Why?

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  3. ptbnl Jul 29,2010 2:38 pm

    Bunning because he’s an ass?

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 29,2010 2:52 pm || Up

      But an ass every fourth day without fail. And also, being a member of the 1964 Phillies surely warped him for life.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  4. mikeA Jul 29,2010 3:08 pm

    Buehrle, judging by his name, is the wurst pitcher with a perfect game.

  5. mikeA Jul 29,2010 3:10 pm

    Photo from Addie Joss’s wikipedia page:

    • nevermoor Jul 29,2010 3:17 pm || Up

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • Poppy Jul 29,2010 3:18 pm || Up

      How long had he been dead at the time of that photo?

      There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
      • ptbnl Jul 29,2010 3:20 pm || Up

        Zombie pitchers – you have to beat them to death with a baseball bat.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
        • monkeyball Jul 29,2010 3:26 pm || Up

          you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  6. nevermoor Jul 29,2010 3:23 pm

    Another observation:

    I’m surprised that most of the modern perfect games are in the AL, where you’d expect it to be harder given the DH.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • ptbnl Jul 29,2010 3:41 pm || Up

      Indeed – and the AL/NL discrepancy is biggest *after* the introduction of the DH.

      Pre-1900: N/A – 2
      Pre-WWII: 3 – 0

      to 1969: 2 – 2 (mound lowered)
      to 1973: 0 – 0 (DH)
      to 2010: 7 – 4

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  7. FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 29,2010 4:20 pm

    Crazy stat I heard after Halladay’s perfect game (I hope it’s true): there have now been six perfectos in which the final score was 1-0. In all six, the run was unearned.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • monkeyball Jul 29,2010 4:31 pm || Up

      I want lunar and astrological charts for all the perfectos.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • nevermoor Jul 29,2010 4:59 pm || Up

      Six indeed (I have the scores on my post)

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • ptbnl Jul 29,2010 6:30 pm || Up

      True … no earned runs.

      09-30-1984: California 1, Texas 0 (1b, pb, go, fc)
      10-02-1908: Cleveland 1, Chicago 0
      (looks like a hit, a steal and an e3 were involved)
      05-29-2010: Philadelphia 1, Florida 0 (1b, e8)
      09-16-1988: Cincinnati 1, Los Angeles 0 (2b, 1b/e5)
      09-09-1965: Los Angeles 1, Chicago 0 (bb, sac, sb/e2)
      06-12-1880: Worcester 1, Cleveland 0 (likely a hit and an e4 at least)

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • nevermoor Jul 29,2010 11:32 pm || Up

        OH. Totally missed that part.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  8. salb918 Jul 30,2010 7:43 am

    Armando Galarraga Nevermind.

    • monkeyball Jul 30,2010 8:05 am || Up

      Harvey Haddix Nevermind.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • salb918 Jul 30,2010 8:12 am || Up

        Nah, Haddix was a pretty good pitcher over a long career.

    • nevermoor Jul 30,2010 8:31 am || Up

      Right. That would have made this easier.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  9. andeux Apr 25,2013 4:06 pm

    Phil Humber.

    TINSTAAFK
    • nevermoor Apr 25,2013 4:21 pm || Up

      Yeah. I snuck this one in just in the nick of time

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • Future Ed Apr 25,2013 6:26 pm || Up

        Andres Galaraga. he actually got the 27th guy out cf Humber

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • nevermoor Apr 25,2013 6:56 pm || Up

          See above.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  10. Englishmajor Apr 26,2013 11:30 am

    Meanwhile, somewhere in Hawai’i….

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