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The home season started exactly 6 months ago today in Tokyo, and it wraps with three at the Coliseum against the Texas Rangers this weekend.

Tonight at 7: Mike Fiers, as long as he lasts, vs. Mike Minor
Saturday at 6: Sean Manaea vs. Brock Burke
Sunday at 1: Tanner Roark vs. Lance Lynn

In addition to tonight’s in-progress games the Indians and Rays schedules this weekend are:
Saturday: BOS-TB at 3, PHI-CLE at 4
Sunday: BOS-TB at 10 a.m., PHI-CLE at 4:30 (ESPN)
Monday: BOS-TB at 4, A’s and CLE off

One thing about those TB and CLE games: if I ever catch any of you drinking a “Budweiser Reserve Copper Lager” I will grab that bottle and smash it on the pavement.

145 thoughts on “Games 154-156 vs. the Rangers

  1. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 20,2019 6:54 pm

    They’re honoring the A’s employees of the month, and one of the 20 people up there is Ryan Buchter.

    • Future Ed Future Ed Sep 20,2019 7:13 pm || Up

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • 5Aces 5Aces Sep 20,2019 8:10 pm || Up

        Does that get used as an arguement in arbitration? “He was a 3 time employee of the month!”

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  2. Future Ed Future Ed Sep 20,2019 6:58 pm

    For the First time ever, the A’s lost an actual regular season game on my birthday, so they have to win on my half birthday.

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  3. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 20,2019 7:00 pm

    Manaea appears to be sporting corn rows.

    • Future Ed Future Ed Sep 20,2019 7:04 pm || Up

      read the whole thread

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  4. Future Ed Future Ed Sep 20,2019 7:01 pm

    boston is terrible. From the front office through the analytics to the platers

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  5. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 20,2019 7:06 pm

    The grass looks terrible. FK the Raiders, man.

    • Soaker Soaker Sep 20,2019 7:08 pm || Up

      I would hope they will lay in new grass on Monday even though there’s a chance there won’t be another baseball game there this year.

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      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 20,2019 9:35 pm || Up

        Interesting question, they’ll have a solid nine days to get the grass into prime condition come Oct 2.

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        • dmoas Sep 20,2019 9:36 pm || Up

          I think I read that it takes about 2 – 6 weeks for sod to take.

          • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 20,2019 9:41 pm || Up

            That can’t be the whole story, football teams routinely resod in a week between games

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            • dmoas Sep 20,2019 9:52 pm || Up

              I’d still do it. Can’t be worse than what we have now.

  6. andeux andeux Sep 20,2019 7:12 pm

    Fiers FB 89-92 according to Gameday.

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  7. Future Ed Future Ed Sep 20,2019 7:18 pm

    mitch moreland again!

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  8. Soaker Soaker Sep 20,2019 7:49 pm

    The Rangers announcers have been reading some promos for the final week at the current ballpark. It includes an “All-Time Team”. I wouldn’t have thought of Colby Lewis as a name on that list but he’s on there.

    The ballpark isn’t being torn down immediately. There’s some new iteration of the XFL starting play next spring and the Dallas entry will play there.

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  9. Future Ed Future Ed Sep 20,2019 7:58 pm

    can the red sox get 6 outs without giving up a run?

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    • Future Ed Future Ed Sep 20,2019 8:12 pm || Up

      no

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      • lenscrafters Sep 20,2019 8:20 pm || Up

        I wouldn’t expect much from them this weekend. They’re doing a bullpen game tomorrow and Eovaldi and his 6+ ERA Sunday.

        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 21,2019 4:20 pm || Up

          Painful watching this schmo they have out there right now.

          • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 21,2019 4:31 pm || Up

            The Phillies defense is also hard to watch, especially with Vargas on the mound.

  10. andeux andeux Sep 20,2019 8:03 pm

    How does Mike Minor have such great stats?

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  11. Future Ed Future Ed Sep 20,2019 8:05 pm

    imagine it being part of your job to have to wait around for 2 hours to see if you can pour beer on your coworkers

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  12. lenscrafters Sep 20,2019 8:15 pm

    I would like to get Minor to 100 pitches this inning.

    • lenscrafters Sep 20,2019 8:23 pm || Up

      This is acceptable, he could be coming out anyways.

  13. 5Aces 5Aces Sep 20,2019 8:19 pm

    So even Friday Night Lights in SoCal includes beachballs in the stands.

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  14. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 20,2019 9:33 pm

    I guess Fiers’ nerve stinger pre-amputation condition really was a passing thing.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • dmoas Sep 20,2019 9:37 pm || Up

      Either that or this is like the strike of cognitive lightning just before someone dies.

  15. mother pucker Sep 20,2019 9:39 pm

    Fiers back?

  16. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 20,2019 9:44 pm

    I like this spot to get Bassitt an inning, good chance to see if he can get three outs in a traditional bullpen role.

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  17. andeux andeux Sep 20,2019 9:46 pm

    Imperfect game for A’s pitchers: two baserunners, one picked off, the other erased on a DP.

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  18. Future Ed Future Ed Sep 21,2019 7:55 am
    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 21,2019 8:53 am || Up

      The Upgrade Instagram generation does not recognize.

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  19. ptbnl Sep 21,2019 9:10 am

    The Brewers -12 run differential is enough to push the Cubs (+113) 2 games back of the 2nd wildcard spot; the expected W/L would have the Cubs 12 games ahead.

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  20. Soaker Soaker Sep 21,2019 12:19 pm

    Holy Toledo. It will be a pleasant drive down to Oakland but it came that close to going the other way.

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    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 21,2019 12:22 pm || Up

      That’s an impressive road win, no?

      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 21,2019 12:32 pm || Up
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      • Soaker Soaker Sep 21,2019 6:00 pm || Up

        Any win at SEC, even low end team like Ole Miss, is good. Better was win at UW, which whomped BYU in Provo. BYU beat U$C which beat Utah which was Top 10.

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    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 21,2019 1:21 pm || Up

      Cal’s next game is a 7:30 pm, Friday night game. Thanks for nothing, ESPN.

    • mikeA Sep 21,2019 1:47 pm || Up

      It’s been a fun season. I’ve never seen a finish quite like that. They never showed a good replay, but it looked like a TD…

      • Soaker Soaker Sep 21,2019 5:52 pm || Up

        Today was a good day for “functional passing game” to make a surprise guest appearance.

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  21. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 21,2019 1:13 pm

    29,500+ announced crowd last night. About 2,000 more than the crowd for the equivalent game last year (Friday, Sept. 21 against the Twins, Manaea bobblehead).

  22. Soaker Soaker Sep 21,2019 6:36 pm

    Mississippi turned blue, early Texas returns promising. Ohio looking good as well. Florida too close to call as usual.

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  23. andeux andeux Sep 21,2019 6:37 pm

    Fernando Rodney just blew a 4-run lead to the Marlins.

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  24. 5Aces 5Aces Sep 21,2019 6:41 pm

    Chappy breaking out of the slump tonight.

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  25. Soaker Soaker Sep 21,2019 6:44 pm

    Dagnabbit, a first inning blowout. It’s a lot of Waves between 7-0 in the first and fireworks.

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  26. andeux andeux Sep 21,2019 6:58 pm

    Moreland go-ahead HR in the 11th.

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    • andeux andeux Sep 21,2019 7:04 pm || Up

      “Josh A. Smith,” their 11th pitcher of the night, going for the save.

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    • Future Ed Future Ed Sep 21,2019 7:08 pm || Up

      I almost said something nice about him ;ast night, but he didn’t help

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    • andeux andeux Sep 21,2019 7:08 pm || Up

      Thanks for nothing massholes.

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  27. Soaker Soaker Sep 21,2019 7:13 pm

    Might be a good night to test a Mercy Rule here.

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  28. ptbnl Sep 21,2019 7:13 pm

    Davis and Pinder should get kangaroo court fines.

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  29. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 21,2019 8:41 pm

    Astros aren’t clinching tonight.

  30. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 21,2019 9:30 pm

    I like Marcus’ policy of not making any outs.

  31. MikeV MikeV Sep 21,2019 9:31 pm

    Did they really just burn 5 pitchers in a 12-3 ass kicking?

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

    • dmoas Sep 21,2019 9:42 pm || Up

      Luzardo & Mengden are likely pitching on specific days to get him adjusted to bullpen work. No one cares about Buchter (especially if it’s an important game). And Wendelken only threw 2 pitches. I don’t think it’s a big deal.

      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 21,2019 9:48 pm || Up

        How dare you denigrate the employee of the month like that.

  32. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 21,2019 9:41 pm

  33. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 22,2019 8:55 am

    In retrospect, they really did need a day off.

  34. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 22,2019 10:27 am

    4-0 Red Sox in the first with the bases still loaded. Yarbrough looks terrible.

    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 22,2019 11:19 am || Up

      Eovaldi looks terrible and is terrible.

      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 22,2019 11:55 am || Up

        The Sox are so fucking useless, just as dislikeable when losing as winning.

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    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 22,2019 12:36 pm || Up

      Crucial Joey Wendle error and it’s 7-3 Boston.

  35. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 22,2019 12:00 pm

    Sounds like the Coliseum will be packed again today. Single game postseason tix go on sale Weds and will include Mt Davis. The place should be rocking in October.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  36. Soaker Soaker Sep 22,2019 12:15 pm

    The concession idea of the year was the beer in plastic “Mason jars” with the lid in Arlington. Even just a coffee cup type lid would make it easier to navigate the Coliseum’s lower concourse without losing a percentage of your Denogginizing capacity.

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    • ptbnl Sep 22,2019 12:42 pm || Up

      Denogginizer seems like the antithesis of a ballpark beer, and yet they now run it on 2 of their 4 taps just to keep up with demand.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • Soaker Soaker Sep 22,2019 1:03 pm || Up

        Easily MLB’s best beer value at $0.50/oz.

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        • Soaker Soaker Sep 22,2019 1:45 pm || Up

          And fortunately a pregame Denogginizer buzz lasts 6-7 innings. FK.

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          • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 22,2019 2:50 pm || Up

            Denogginizer: The Coliseum beer of choice when you desperately need a wild alcoholic nightmare.

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  37. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 22,2019 12:59 pm

    In other news, the Raiders are who we thought they are.

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  38. Soaker Soaker Sep 22,2019 1:12 pm

    Very efficient outing for Roark so far.

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    • Future Ed Future Ed Sep 22,2019 6:36 pm || Up

      that ball off choo’s bat made no sound whatsoever. I have no doubt that was a superball.

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  39. 5Aces 5Aces Sep 22,2019 1:17 pm

    So all the starters in this series have made the case for why they should or shouldnt be on the PS roster.

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  40. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 22,2019 1:19 pm

    Um, Tanner might not have it today.

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  41. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 22,2019 1:45 pm

    Bob? Hello??

  42. Soaker Soaker Sep 22,2019 2:19 pm

    The games in this series have not been very compelling.

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  43. Soaker Soaker Sep 22,2019 2:42 pm

    Rangers pitchers have hit a few A’s hitters this year and if the A’s want to “send a message” this is the game to do it.

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  44. andeux andeux Sep 22,2019 2:43 pm

    Looks like they need another day off.

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  45. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 22,2019 2:51 pm

    I need someone to make a supercut of Semien trying to keep his helmet on while tearing around the bases.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 22,2019 2:53 pm || Up

      Interspersed with Laureano deliberately knocking his off.

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      • 5Aces 5Aces Sep 22,2019 3:14 pm || Up

        I will pay for a ticket to view this.

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 22,2019 4:17 pm || Up

      It came off that time despite his efforts.

  46. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 22,2019 3:48 pm

    I’m unreasonably pleased that the A’s avg attendance this year topped 20K.

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    • colin colin Sep 24,2019 7:49 am || Up

      11th in the AL, ahead of Detroit, KC, Baltimore, and (obviously) Tampa Bay.

      I have to admit (as an NRAF) that I totally internalized the idea that Oakland and Tampa Bay were always the worst attendance in the league. Happy to be half wrong!

      • colin colin Sep 24,2019 8:03 am || Up

        Also, Miami is averaging only 10,016 per game. If that sounds suspiciously close to 10k, then you might be interested to know that their 2018 average attendance was … 10,014 per game.

        • dmoas Sep 24,2019 9:01 am || Up

          How many did Jeter buy himself to stoke is ego?

  47. Soaker Soaker Sep 22,2019 4:03 pm

    Roark and Brown both have to sit in the lavatories on the flight from Oakland to DoCal.

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    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 22,2019 4:37 pm || Up

      This is the worst Mile High Club story ever.

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    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 22,2019 4:41 pm || Up

      They both ate Arby’s?

      • Soaker Soaker Sep 22,2019 5:56 pm || Up

        In Brown’s case it was a big slice of Pumpkin Pie.

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    • Future Ed Future Ed Sep 22,2019 6:37 pm || Up

      Brown and davis looked terrible.

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  48. andeux andeux Sep 22,2019 8:42 pm
    TINSTAAFK
    • colin colin Sep 23,2019 1:53 pm || Up

      I realize it’s a joke about spatial curvature in GR, but the first thing that came to mind was the “small pi approximation” (but I think that is usually 3, not 1).

      • ptbnl Sep 23,2019 2:00 pm || Up

        I didn’t even think it was that specific – though to be fair “precision cosmology” is a relatively new concept.

        One of may favorite opening slides for a talk was “e = i = pi = 1” which was intended as a lazy way of not having to worry about dimensionless factors, but taken literally allows you to prove anything.

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  49. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 23,2019 4:51 pm

    Not exactly a playoff atmosphere in the Trop.

    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 23,2019 4:58 pm || Up

      Snell knocked out in the second inning down 1-0.

      • Future Ed Future Ed Sep 23,2019 5:01 pm || Up

        by a lefty he had down 0-2

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        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 23,2019 5:18 pm || Up

          I can’t tell what the Rays are trying to do with Snell. Whatever it is, doesn’t seem to helping their chances this year.

          • Future Ed Future Ed Sep 23,2019 5:25 pm || Up

            GOod old mitch moreland, doubles and scores

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      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 23,2019 5:36 pm || Up

        Hmmm, 4-0 now.

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      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 24,2019 7:01 am || Up

        Damn, that’s awful.

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  50. DFA DFA Sep 23,2019 10:55 pm

    Does anyone not have wildcard tickets that wants to go with me or has an extra for me to purchase that would want to sit together?

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
    • Future Ed Future Ed Sep 24,2019 6:39 am || Up

      I’ll be on a plane

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      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 24,2019 5:43 pm || Up

        Crap, me too. Or I will be just arriving in a city that is not Oakland.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 24,2019 10:40 pm || Up

      My tix are spoken for but you are more than welcome at the tailgate that will start around noon.

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  51. 5Aces 5Aces Sep 24,2019 9:05 am

    The last 2 comments finally made me take the look at the calendar that I have been putting off. I am going to be out of the country for the ALCS. That either is going to be a huge relief or the worst thing ever.

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  52. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 25,2019 9:55 am

    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 25,2019 9:56 am || Up

      I’m always amused when some tries the “so and so would like to recall the email” move. Too late, bro!

      • Future Ed Future Ed Sep 25,2019 10:43 am || Up

        Isn’t it FPR to delete the opponent email and notify that they sent privileged information?

        I don’t remember, I usually and asleep in the CLE’s that talk about that stuff

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        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 25,2019 10:45 am || Up

          Yes. I have done that, including with one opposing counsel who copied me on internal strategy emails like half a dozen times.

          • Future Ed Future Ed Sep 25,2019 10:48 am || Up

            But this is totally different, and LOL, these people are running the world

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    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2019 9:40 am || Up

      It seems pretty not good for Trump that there are basically no Republicans defending him on the substance of what happened. They are all either saying it’s bad, remaining strategically silent, or outright panicking. Getting 20 Republican senators to push him out is still a longshot, but it is no longer impossible to imagine imo.

      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 26,2019 9:45 am || Up

        Very reminiscent of Watergate that way, where the previously staunch Republican support for the president began to erode as more indefensible acts came to light.

        Hard to imagine Lewandowski and his Haldemon-esque haircut will help with that.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2019 10:00 am || Up

          Trump’s unprompted statement yesterday that Congress should ask for transcripts of Pence’s conversations with the Ukrainians too seemed like a pretty big tell that he is freaking the FK out.

          • colin colin Sep 26,2019 12:28 pm || Up

            So we impeach Trump *and* Pence, making Nancy president?

            • AV AV Sep 26,2019 12:31 pm || Up

              which is hilarious to think about, but doesn’t that very possibility mean she needs to recuse?

              *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
              • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2019 1:19 pm || Up

                I don’t think so, in part because I think there is zero chance she would let the House impeach Pence, no matter what he did. He has to be there to give any hope of the Senate removing Trump. And a Pence shown to have been involved in this scandal would be perfect to run against in 2020.

            • MikeV MikeV Sep 26,2019 12:46 pm || Up

              Then RBG retires and Nancy nominates Obama to SCOTUS.

              And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

              Thanks, and go As.

              • dmoas Sep 26,2019 12:57 pm || Up

                Then Thomas retires and is replaced by Obama #2.

                • Future Ed Future Ed Sep 26,2019 2:33 pm || Up

                  Junior Justice Barack Obama

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        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2019 10:08 am || Up

          This could totally be Nixon on a scratchy tape while Henry Kissinger occasionally says “yes, Mr. President”

          Speaking at a private breakfast in New York, Trump described reporters as “scum” and raged at the Democrats’ new impeachment proceedings, which were spurred by the whistleblower’s complaint alleging that Trump tried to strong-arm Ukraine’s leader to interfere in the 2020 election…

          “I want to know who’s the person, who’s the person who gave the whistle-blower the information? Because that’s close to a spy,” he continued. “You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart? Right? The spies and treason, we used to handle it a little differently than we do now.”

          • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2019 10:15 am || Up

            (Of course, this wasn’t a half-drunk oval office rant to a toady. He said it “at a private event at the Intercontinental Hotel in New York City where the president thanked the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Kelly Craft, and her staff as he wound up four days of meetings around the U.N. General Assembly.”)

            • Future Ed Future Ed Sep 26,2019 10:37 am || Up

              today’s hearing along with the lewindowski one I think backs up the pelosi approach.

              It is going to be really hard to get people to say the things that need to be said. The acting DNI was such a shit head about what his responsibilities were.

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              • AV AV Sep 26,2019 12:27 pm || Up

                i need a breakdown on DNI resignation. i can’t tell what the underlying stuff is.

                coats resigned because he knew shit was coming? because he didn’t want to deal with it? because he was going to be implicated? because trump told him to? did trump know this was coming?

                and then why did coats prompt gordon to resign?

                my original assumption when the whistleblower stuff started was that coats *was* the whistleblower. i guess not, right?

                not entirely unrelated, did kamala have specific info when she asked barr if he’d been directed/suggested by WH to investigate anybody? or was that just a likely scenario she imagined possible and ask toward? that was may 1, rudy went to kiev may 9. close, but…

                *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • Future Ed Future Ed Sep 26,2019 2:35 pm || Up

                  the coats stuff is too much for me to think about

                  Harris knew nothing about this. She was asking about mueller.

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          • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2019 1:28 pm || Up

            The audio is up now. It is…not unchilling.

            • Future Ed Future Ed Sep 26,2019 2:36 pm || Up

              haven’t heard, but blah blah blah he didn’t saaaaaaayyyy they should be killed

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      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 8,2019 10:31 am || Up

        Still basically no Republicans defending Trump on the substance. Still lots of strategic silence plus some targeted criticisms from Republican senators and even the occasional Fox News type. Meanwhile, the White House and House republican crazies are basically just throwing procedural crap that no one will care about against the wall, blocking testimony by what appears to be the key witness at midnight before the hearing he flew in from Europe for, and making hail mary arguments in court to try to stop various forms of incriminating information from coming out. And the polls on impeachment are looking worse for the big man every day, even among republicans.

        He’s in real trouble here.

        • ptbnl Oct 8,2019 10:53 am || Up

          Both he and Johnson seem to be assuming legislatures sufficiently supine/dysfunctional to abdicate their responsibilities and relying on post hoc electoral endorsement of their actions.

          I wouldn’t bet against them in either case (and not only because I won’t bet on things I’m emotionally invested in).

          If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
        • AV AV Oct 8,2019 11:58 am || Up

          i admire your optimism. even with what was obvious now being exposed and verified, i admire your optimism.

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
          • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 8,2019 12:14 pm || Up

            I think the most likely result is impeachment, acquittal plus maybe some sort of formal rebuke or censure, and a Democrat elected fairly comfortably in 2020. But I think the chances of removal or resignation are hovering somewhere above zero, which is saying something given the current composition of the senate.

            I also think that as this process moves along, he is likely to commit additional impeachable offenses out of panic, which changes the calculus.

            I guess that makes me an optimist, but I don’t feel like an optimist at all.

            • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 8,2019 1:58 pm || Up

              I’m an optimist in that I don’t think the armed insurrection which follows will kill as many Americans as the first civil war did.

              "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
              • ptbnl Oct 8,2019 2:34 pm || Up

                Not after the Dakotas go nucular (or maybe that will be outsourced to the Russians too).

                If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
                • andeux andeux Oct 8,2019 2:45 pm || Up

                  as Tom Lehrer sang:
                  We’ll try to stay serene and calm
                  When Alabama gets the bomb

                  TINSTAAFK

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