Standing in line at a Rite Aid in Tigard behind a family of (I believe) relatively recent Eritrean emigrants. They’re using foodstamps to buy some groceries. The Caucasian feller behind me in line announces to the world in general: “Gee, you think if we went to their country, they’d give us free food?”
JP in tow, all I allowed myself was a dirty glance in his direction.
10-minutes-later-in-the-car-ideal response: I turn around and say, “No, they wouldn’t — and that acceptance of immigrants and cultural/religious diversity, protection of families, and social safety net are what make the US of A the greatest goddam country in the world. Love it or leave it, bub.”
Unsaid: “You’d last 30 seconds in Eritrea, fatboy.”
My reply would be, “In their country, you’d probably hunted for sport and roasted on a pit or kidnapped by pirates and used as a human toilet.”
Shouldn’t they give you free food before the pit roasting?
I’m sure there’d be a few leftovers from the previous clerk roast.
Saw an interesting write up about big money FA contracts, followed by intelligent discussion. It’s Canadian, in case anyone has an aversion to them foreigners.
Link.
that was fun.
I will say that Giambi’s contract was considered bad because of his mysterious injury more than his play. To a lesser degree so did Alex Rodriguez.
I know injuries are part of the analysis, but I feel like it needs to be looked at more closely
I believe Eritrea has a reputation for being particularly hospitable and generous to strangers, so the answer is probably “Yes, they would give us free food there.”
That’s awesome and helps restore a small percentage of my faith in humanity.
However, it doesn’t leave any permanently disturbing images in the mind of the cashier.
You’d probably have to eat it with your hands, though.
You’d GET to eat it with your hands….like any civilized person should.
Endorsed. Utensils are tools of oppression!
as long as certain sanitation precautions are taken, I agree wholeheartedly.
Attack of the Killer Overhead Camera:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Xegyu36CA28” frameborder=”0″ allowfullscreen>
I’ve been curious about how they adapt the installation logistics of these cameras to various stadiums. I’m not sure they have one up at all at the Coliseum, and I wonder if it’s because the odd built-in-stages architecture doesn’t lend itself to a four-point cable which I assume it requires.
They managed to do it at the old Memorial Stadium for Cal games. Very weird to watch the thing move around in person.
Those things are neat for the TV viewer, but I bet they are distracting for in attendees.
I wonde how far we are from them going away in favor of less obtrusive technology
Eh, you notice them but they’re not particularly distracting. Much less so than those elevated sideline cameras. I was at the Las Vegas Bowl last week and one of these contraptions was up. A couple guys were out there constantly during timeouts re-feeding the lines through the thing.
There’s usually something high enough up at four suitable points to anchor the lines to. At the Coliseum it might be two light towers over the old bowl and perhaps anchors on the facing of the upper deck on either end of Mt. Davis.
Now that you mention it, I went to the Monday night opener in 2010 and didn’t notice anything
I think they usually stick it deep in the back field so unless it’s directly in your line of sight, you wouldn’t notice.
Yes, it’s usually positioned about 10-15 yards behind the play.
In that Las Vegas game there were a couple of 100-yard kick returns. That’s actually when you notice the camera most, when it’s chasing the kick returner all the way down the field.
TWSS
I really can’t believe it took that long to get that result…
I actively hate the guy that runs out with a steady cam after home runs.
Absolutely no reason for that.
Ha Ha!
Thanks for sharing this.
And to all you FKers, as I am provenly ahead of you, especially now that JL is not in Japan anymore, lemme be the first one to whish you a happy new year
Happy New Year!
May it not be the last one! (ducks punch from former version of self)
Happy New Year EC!!!!
Careful Brenarlo!
Heee
Buon Anno, elcro.
happy new year
Whatever, FKer. HNY.
So is 2012 every bit as awesome as you hoped it would be?
Tell us about the future.
Are there hover cars?
You are making me post all SLF‘s stuff aren’t you
I´m there! 2012 is well, futuristic!
Happy New Year! You do realize, though, that the world is scheduled to end in 2012 and when it does it will end 7 hours earlier for you than it does for us.
I retired from NYE celebrations some years ago. Think I’ll just have a drink or two and listen to some of the Furthur show on the radio.
My wife and I are staying in for the night, but we’re going to go to the store first.
Mrs. Aces is 100% against going out for NYE. She is currently showing little Miss Ace how to make her awesome guacamole. I just poured the first of a few cold ones for the adults and we will enjoy a night of homemade party trays, kids blowing noisemakers too much, and zombie Dick Clark making out with his wife.
Furthur opens the show with The Golden Road to Unlimited Devotion, which suggests it could be a long night. The Dead usually didn’t start playing until about 10 on NYE.
They can’t keep rocking into the wee morning hours and still be able to make the 4:00 senior citizens special dinner at Carrows the next day.
Went last night, really good show. The first set just took off right from the beginning, no gentle sliding into the good stuff. I usually like to go the 30th and leave NYE for others to enjoy.
I thought you were talking about watching a documentary about Kesey and the bus, not seeing a band made up of the guys from the Dead who aren’t quite dead yet.
That’s awesome that they’re playing. I’m glad they’re still rocking out, although jam band music kinda bores me.
Yeah, I like going to see a band that makes me feel young. I love the jam bands, but can see how they can be boring if you’re not into it. One song you don’t like can turn into a half-hour snooze.
Huh. Quentin to the Padres.
You would think he would stay in the AL
So Byrnes traded Quentin for Carter and then Castro and Hernandez for Quentin? This means Carter > Quentin > Castro + Hernandez. OK that means nothing at all.
Fun JoePos (careful not to drop the S when you enunciate that) article breaking down all 44 years in which the MVP was not decisively the best hitter of that year. Nice discourses on the Williams-DiMaggio rivalry, the slower pace of integration in the AL (from 1949-59 nine of the 11 NL MVPs were African-American; none of the AL MVPs were), and the argument that owner collusion in the 80’s is what’s thus far cost Tim Raines a Hall of Fame spot.
Huh. You know, when you add that to consideration, a pretty damn good case could be made for him. Sad.
I think he’ll make it eventually. And become the next cause celebre.
But if he doesn’t get it I think it’s mostly Rickey’s fault.
Does anyone here happen to know anything about setting up a secure small business network? I need to bounce thoughts off someone..
I have no expertise to offer, but you and I do need to talk sometime.
…if for no other reason than to get a clearer picture of what he’s all about…
oh my, oblique has 12 days before he is banned.
Somehow I doubt Slusser would step in on my behalf!
Huston Street, though, there’s a man who cares about oblique
I think Huddy cared more TBH.
You mean because he was willing to get into a barfight before a playoff game to hurt his?
Agreed. I’m really bad at the keeping-in-contact thing.
After much research, I have a plan (and a corresponding full cart at Amazon) for the network.
I’d be interested in knowing the details. Also, is Amazon cheaper than NewEgg these days?
Often, you can find the same components on Amazon cheaper. That’s been my experience, anyway. Newegg’s good for the combo deals they offer.
Amazon/NewEgg were about the same price for what I was looking at, and since I’m on Prime, I figured I’d get stuff faster with Amazon.. but I do like NewEgg a lot.
So the setup is that we’re subletting space from another company that’s also just moving in. I want us on our own subnet, with VPN access so that I can restrict access to certain servers to an IP or IP range (all our servers are VPSes), as well as ssh access to our production servers.
Ideally I would’ve wanted a linux server and to just use iptables and openvpn, but I really don’t have a lot of time for config and maintenance, as my primary responsibility is on the product side (design/architect/write/deploy/maintain the software). So for the firewall I went with a Netgear ProSafe FVS336G-NAS200 VPN appliance. It does SSL VPN, which is what I want, and the FW throughput is 60Mbps, which dwarfs the 12-16Mbps we’ll get from our fiber ISP (about $250).
Behind that, I got a Cisco SG200-26 gigabit managed switch (about $290); figured I can’t go wrong with Cisco. And for the price I see no reason to not go with gigabit, even if we don’t need it immediately. Then, for each office (thick concrete walls in between them; 4 offices total), a Cisco-Linksys WRT310 (refurb) for like $30 ea — 4 gigabit ports and a wireless-n router.
Also got an APC UPS for the firewall and switch. In the office, we’re all going to have laptops. Things I need to get soon are:
– a network laser printer, not necessarily wireless
– a backup server
– two 27″ monitors to work with macbooks (we can’t afford the highest resolution ones; looking for something in the $300/ea range)
Thoughts/criticisms are welcome — I consider myself a novice at this.
I have no space for criticism. I’m just fascinated by that side of things.
suslu to mikev’s rescue!
great, make me open it again
[rolls eyes]
by the way, that was what I ended up with after I decided to delete my original comment
….which was?
can’t recall. I have rescued too many rockets from trees in the mean time.
I felt it was too much of a personal attack that would have changed the sub thread
I’ve deleted so many comments that I was about to post in that thread that I’m going to need a new backspace key.
I don’t have much to say either, but want to.
In the end, he’s done wonders for my life by helping create all of this.
If 16 picks grew out of what you learned working on making FK what it is today, it’ll make a great couple of pages in some history book someday.
I hope you’re right about that
What took her so long?
/DFA
(kidding)
heh heh.
ASVD
FKOTD
That might just be my favorite thing ever uttered here.
These new kids… I like ’em.
linky
That was totally unexpected. and awesome.
Thanks, and go As.
[Whistles]
If you instigated that you are even more awesome than any of us thought.
You just aren’t the one to FK with, are you Bloomie?
I could have told you that.
TWSSS
[sigh] [again]
I sent her an email.
AND SHE DIDN’T EVEN ASK ME TO
Thanks, and go As.
BANNED!
Banned Camp?
you had your chance
Yes it was.
What I found amusing was Toonces comment that people don’t always to react to comments by flagging them, they react by leaving.
He would have experience in that situation.
I know I said I was out… but Slusser stepping in like that might change the landscape. You think there’s still a chance at
a coupgetting you reinstated?I dunno. Maybe?
Thanks, and go As.
If he doesn’t do it immediately and without any grumbling, even Tyler, BBG and OptimistPrime would bail on him. You might try to log back in a few times this afternoon and see if you’ve been silently reinstated.
Slusser’s thing about the “happy, cohesive OC community not being all fractured” though…come on, between FK and the OC lounge, and with the most recent damage being largely irreparable barring Toonces’ resignation, it’s way too late for that kind of talk.
Hope and memory are powerful things.
She regularly lurks in the lounge.
By lurk, you mean stalk. And by lounge, you mean you.
When I read his reply I almost punched my monitor. And you hit the nail on the head. Was so close to saying “well yeah fucktard you are living proof of that..”.
Mike, you gotta frame that.
And fuck you DFA she is awesome
Totally. That is awesome.
She can never report on another trade rumour again and I won’t care. That was fucking awesome.
Yay!
Talk about having to stick your tail between your legs. No choice but total capitulation now.
/Jean Quan.
I think it’s more likely that we’ll see a bunch more bans coming, say a week from now or so, coming from flags in EC’s banning post.
The way it’s worked in the past with threads like this is amnesty.
right, and the CGV system is adhered to the letter.
In which case Ed should go back and unleash the Kracken.
the Kraken would engender sympathy for tca
But it might make Ed feel better. I’m all for that.
I don’t think that’s how it’s going to go this time. Libya would have stayed under Gaddhafi control if the UN hadn’t have stepped in and bombed the shit out his military and positions. Gaddhafi purged tens of thousands and would have purged tens of thousands more if he could have.
Slusser’s comment might be the closest thing there is to an angry plea from the French Foreign minister, but it’s more than likely not going to be enough, unless she was to write about this whole thing on a grander stage…
If I was TCA and feeling vindictive, I’d ban almost everybody who’s also on FK and anybody who starts the meta battle to protest their ban.
If I was the type of blog owner who was okay with allowing his sub-blogs to be racist and sexist and ban people arbitrarily, I would care about the bottom line more than the rights or feelings of semi-anonymous customers who only bring in fractions of pennies at a time.
they lost the war. even if mikev is allowed back (and i don’t see how that would even work), the blog is broken. if mikev doesn’t return, the blog is broken and people will disappear entirely or in part. either way, the blog is necessarily worse off and the marquee platform for the family of blogs has been damaged.
BOOBIES
i heart boobies
Nice proposal. “I pinky swear not to abuse my power, but if I happen to do so, no one’s allowed to talk about it. Vote!”
Yeah. I’m staying out of that one because I genuinely don’t care. But yeah, if the first thing doesn’t convince people he needs to go, proposing and insisting on that has to do it.
people are sheep.
anyone remember why exactly he was restricted before? I forget the circumstances…
PT. IIFC, it was when he decided to ban him and make that arrogant post about it called something like “A post that’s actually supposed to be about PT” After the onslaught that spun this place off, he handed the reigns to BBG.
Ya, I’m not seeing a good ending for them no matter what happens. It will take a while for them to recover.
His “proposal” has 57% No votes but it looks more like 80% No when you read through the comments.
Short term it’s certainly good for hits. Hell, he got me to log in and comment for the first time since about the beginning of the season. I said I was making a resolution not to involve myself in Old Country meta. Well, I have 4 more hours. I might head up to In-N-Out and order a 4×4 tonight too. But yes, long term it’s pretty bad, though not catastrophic if he would recognize how out of sync with the community he is and step down (I wasn’t the least bit uncomfortable throwing that out there, WC). I think he’s way too proud to do it though.
I don’t see another way at this point. The guy has no real credibility now. It’s easier for Blez to just throw him under the bus and move on.
Except that won’t happen. Blez wants everyone to be able to walk away from this without tire tread apparel.
Well sure, that would be his first choice, but it’s a bit late for that.
I don’t think its going to happen. Basically the real impact of Nico doing what he did isn’t going to show up immediately and the blog has had a bunch of these fits before and nothing like what is about to happen (i think) ever happened and the site survived.
Its just like the email that I sent to Tyler years ago complaining about Nico lauding Dan White’s aim, hes much more comfortable doing nothing.
I don’t recall any administrator coming under this kind of fire before. Blez has venture capitalists to answer to. If overall business is down, sometimes you need a fall guy. He now has a convenient one.
Yeah, I agree with this. In matters blogacolypse the presumption always has to be “this’ll blow over eventually,” because that’s almost always what happens. That might not be true this time (or it might; AN might be able to chug along as a lame blog quite well without folks of our ilk). Anyway, from where Blez sits I can’t imagine him even asking Nico to step down, much less forcing him to. Among other things, that’s a message which could get him in trouble with his other 200 blog proprietors.
Don’t the 300 other blog operators report to him, not the other way around?
Maybe, but they work at sub-market wages and he needs a blog for each team.
As I understand it they’re more like franchisees. So if the message is that SBN can yank your franchise due to user strife (based, really, on violations of internal rules that SBN doesn’t care about at all), i can see how that might not sit well with ll the blogmasters. And losing a bunch of them really would hurt SBN.
I have no idea if that’s accurate or remotely part of the Blez perspective.
Tyler wouldn’t fire him and I don’t think he should. The scenario is that Toonces and BBG have a heart-to-heart, a lot of tears are shed and he realizes what’s best for him. But I don’t think it’s likely at all; he’ll open the season at the helm.
I did gently suggest he consider resigning. I was able to avoid the obvious assholish snark: “It was a good idea to put a poll up and promising to act on the community’s democratic decision, but that’s the wrong question you’re asking.”
Since toonces needs this job in order to be noticed by a high level unnamed person in the A’s organization for his exemplary eye, trained to see late movement and weak contact, I don’t see him resigning.
Ed: Win.
Wow. Such an unmitigated win… that wow… so impressive.
1) He doesn’t have to do it today. He can wait till numbers come out and summon the administrator to his office with the message that he needs to get more traffic. I’m imagining that numbers come out pretty much every day or every week. Then he can ask for a marketing plan — how do you plan to get those numbers up? Basically he can make the administrator feel like a non-performing subordinate who isn’t well thought of by the company.
2) He can start grooming BBG or someone else to take over. He’s already said that he trusts BBG in the same way that he trusts the present administrator to run things without his daily oversight.
3) He can start favoring other administrators of the one in question in subtle ways — get interviewed at their blogs, and praise them to the skies as model administrators who everyone else should take lessons from.
There are ways to get rid of people who aren’t performing without outright firing them after a dust-up.
But the thing is the meta increases page views initially.
Yes but only for a few days or weeks. This can’t be good for the site over the next 2-6 months
@WC:
1. He can just use the warn feature.
Hee
Backroom wise, the time to toss Toonces off the fucking boat was yesterday. Ship’s sailed. He’s still on it.
It would be monumentally hysterical if he agreed to that vote of no confidence thing, then the mods voted him out right then and there.
I haven’t even looked at that thread yet. I’m almost afraid to.
Then again, my wife said she’d be disappointed in me if I wasn’t banned from the ** by midnight, so I guess I’d better dive in and find something fucked up to say.
I love you. I love her.
I love you too, doc.
I’m sorry you had to bear the brunt of a lot of the cognitive dissonance of me learning to care about screennames as real people.
It’s okay.
Ok, so I took a couple of days off from the net..please tell me somehow has put a queen Amidala image into one of the threads where they are calling for a vote of no confidence?
I’m certain I’ve thought about it about a hundred times…
You know, if you were to actually be clear about your position, nobody would have to guess how you feel.
sorry to not be clear about, drk, but, as a mod, I’ve got to remain impartial.
If you’re using that to rationalize inaction it’s time to stop being a mod.
damn skippy, doc.
time to burn yr bra.
We know BBG, at least, lurks over here enough to dive deep into a thread and find an e-mail DFA reposted. Writing something like that is akin to writing a letter to the editor ripping your employer. You should ask to be removed from the list of FP writers immediately. If you don’t, when they see that they’re plenty justified in booting you (as a FP writer, not as a commenter).
I don’t give a fuck.
The mods including Nico know EXACTLY how I feel. Simply because I haven’t posted it on AN does not mean they do not know.
…not to suggest I don’t appreciate the concern. Thank you.
OK, but now you’re making it completely public.
I have plenty of moderator authority here at FK, enough to do some serious damage to the site if I wanted to throw a fit. If I went over to ** and started calling nm or mb “asshole bitch motherfuckers” I’d expect their trust in me to drop to zero and would expect to be kicked off here immediately, without any due process crap.
OK, 42 minutes to go, looks like that’s my final comment on the meta.
valid point. better?
Actually, I’d chortle. You’d have to do a lot worse than that to counteract just the flume rec.
Also, I have a hard time imagining banning someone after they demonstrated the ability to post a few real comments.
What nm said. I was serious in my reply to Napoleon @ the OC.
You sir, are correct.
I should have pushed Blez harder.
yeah. me and you both.
That would probably involve a road trip to SoCal.
Meh.
That might have done some good…
…back in 2007.
Thank you for reminding me of my mistakes in the past as well.
What happened in 2007?
You’re asking a World War II soldier about the intricacies of WWI trench warfare, my friend.
FKers… isn’t there some past thread we can direct people to about the history of A’s blogging meta battles?
metabattlereenactment.com
Why yes, I do spend my weekends as a metabattlereenactor. Just last month I got to portray PT saying all cops are not heros..
Cops are not sandwiches?
Why just last night I had Sheriff on Rye with extra Kraut.
you could flip tables, but why, you have other places to go. tailgates will still be attended, tacos eaten. things won’t change much, but you will have more time
MIKEV IS WAY TOO PROUD, you mean.
MIKEV LIED, HE NEVER CRIED!
I laughed out loud.
Win
Supposedly Mike is unbanned. Is it true?
BTW my favorite line of this has been BBG’s “its not fun having you private emails pasted all over the internet.”
I have nothing against her (if you are reading, you), but this is hardly all over the internet.
Yeah, I read that and was fairly certain it was aimed at me but I had no idea what she meant. Then I remembered I do not lie at the center of the universe. Then I drank some coffee.
Yeah. Even a busy guy like you knows to tell the truth at the center of the universe.
And thank goddess for coffee.
The Universe has no centre.
Not even a mini-mall?
nerd
And to think, I had to give my sucker to the wise old owl to even have a chance to learn that…
…three bites my ass…
Well it wasn’t going to lick itself…
But our perception of it surely does.
regardless, it cannot hold.
Not without a 10-yard penalty
Yeats never could play offense.
If what you say is both true and fair, you have nothing to fear from the eyes and ears of the masses.
Crap. That’s what I was afraid of.
Oh that was me. But guess what its not a private email. Me seeing if Mike wants to get a beer is private. Inviting Bloom to hang out is private. She is acting in an official capacity as part of the governance of the blog. Its not private.
I entirely understand where she’s coming from with that, but while it’s “unfair” for her words to be thrown around like that, you’re 100% correct. When she emails in that capacity it’s not much different than her posting it to you on **. It’s partly why the way they’re doing it is broken. Someone who represents the majority vote, who firmly believes you deserve to be addressed, should be the one writing that email since they’re the one’s who are going to have to live with it.
Leadership is about taking responsibility.
Yup, which fair or unfair, she has to wear it just like Tounces (luv that).
I love that he’s calling himself tca. My nickname wins!
Curses!
Although to be honest, I never expected him to adopt Toonces.
When he’s acting like an asshole it’s tca (standard), when he’s driving the blog off the cliff he’s Tounces. A name for every scenario.
Is he really?
Someone should ask him if he likes fish dicks.
If we were speaking to one another, I would.
Yeah, that was pretty funny.
But wasn’t it only a nickname because he used it of himself first?
not in the abbreviated version, but it is also only a nickname because it’s such a douchey self-referrer.
My boss told me long ago that all emails are public. Don’t put anything in an email that you don’t want the whole world to see. Then he yelled at me for an email that I had sent out
A lot of truth to that.
Not only are they public, but your company will have to pay someone like me a lot of money to read ’em and tell you how badly you’re screwed.
Truf.
I try not to say anything anywhere that I would have trouble repeating to the person’s face. I do not always succeed.
We are the same fucking person.
Luckily, I got the spine.
I get the morality, you get the spine. You know, I fine that fucked up.
you were fined? was it for getting banned back together?
Public online urination.
to wit, did knowingly and willingly expose his penis in public.
[thinks]
you know, me morally judging anyone is pretty laughable. I’m lucky you people even let me hang out indoors.
I should probably stop being so critical of Toonces. I was a horrible boss, too.
Like you had a choice.
true, but still.
[looks]
I just checked, you’re good. You didn’t cast the first stone. Judge away.
[sigh]
Personally, I dislike the man. Personally, I blame him for driving away one group of friends from that website and attempting to drive away another group of friends from that website.
But…he is doing what he thinks is right, unless he’s just absolutely insane. And I don’t think he is. Megalomaniacal, probably, but not insane.
Personally, I would like another leader there. But, as nm and mb and sal and fsu and several others have pointed out, without him/that, there would be no this. And this right now is pretty FKing cool.
Every time he screws the poochini, this place gets better.
a lot depends on what the goal is, and is it working.
this isnt a boss issue. this is being a bad person issue
you think?
I’m not in any position to judge anyone of that, either. probably less so…
he did something insane, refused to see it, then proposed a solution that would make John Boehner blush
You’ve walked the mile in some rough shoes, buddy. And you came out quite well in the end. You’ve got just as much right as any. Perhaps not to condemn, but certainly to hold a view.
Did the John come after his Boehner blushed?
heh.
I didn’t know monkeyball had relatives in Iowa.
Is this where the sane folks hang out? Cuz I am about done with the cannibalism going on over at Toonces’ Driving Academy. I thought about banning both him and the owner of the network more than once in the last 48 hours, just for laffs.
Welcome aboard!
Thank you, great to be here with you all. I been lurkin’ but I decided that was untoward so I signed the FK up.
Your
AN** name is …?it’s the emperor of nothing here doc ;)
Welcome!
The ‘nobody’ should’ve clued me it, but I’m pretty slow on the update.
EN if I’m not mistaken.
hey man, Happy New Year!{{throws confetti everywhere}}
Wasn’t there a poster called “nobody in particular”? Was it you?
no, I have only ever used the “EN” sobriquet over there. Honestly I am kinda sick of “emperor,” it’s too imperial and I’m pedantic and annoying enough without the unnecessary implications of what some might see as my own self-perceived superiority making it even worse!
In college, I played pipe organ for the Emperor Norton Anthology
OK now you’re just making band names up
Now?
Okay, but if you make a mistake here, can we call it a NIP slip?
Sure. And if I say something particularly corny, you are welcome to call it a “Cheese NIP” as well.
This is going to be fun.
Happy New Year. Again… sorry I was an ass the other day.
It’s OK buddy, apology accepted. I hope you and anyone else here who wants to will come to our gathering here on the 14th :)
I’m not much of a new years kind of person so in that context I don’t like responding to it, but come on in, kick off your feet and put your shoes up on the table.
Yay!
I’m glad you’re here. I would have been seriously mad at you if you didn’t defect after this batch of egregious bullsh!t.
Yeah, it was very telling that as I was registering here, our pal The Driving Cat was posting his “Let’s have a meta thread in which a moratorium is declared on… meta threads. Yeeeeeaaaaaaahhhhhhh. Check please.
I am not against him as a person, but he is clearly past his shelf date as any sort of credible authority over there. I hope he sees that and steps aside, it’s made him a bit, ummmm, preemptively adversarial towards people he oughtn’t be that way with.
He won’t.
I don’t think he has a lot going on to be proud of other than being tca.
Ouch.
This is a bit harsh. He does seem to be proud of his work at the school, and I’m guessing rightly so.
The whole thing is rather pathetic:
He seems to genuinely care a lot about the community and the site, and I do believe he works hard at his job. I also really like his sense of humor although I guess that’s a matter of individual taste.
The problems are:
1) He’s not very knowledgeable about baseball, and he desperately wants to be seen as an expert in that field for some reason I don’t really understand. Further he’s not willing to learn anything new to improve his expertise. He expects to sort of watch games and do what any fan does and receive accolades. It’s very sad to see how offended he is when his recaps aren’t thought of as interesting and people just want to lounge, or when other posters present evidence that his views are wrong.
2) He is not charismatic the way that guy at Lookout Landing is for example. He doesn’t inspire his flock to do better, nor does his presence draw traffic to the site.
3) He has no client focus. For some reason he thinks that his relationship with the posters, as evidenced by his communications with MikeV and nevermoor, is that of superior-subordinate rather than that of service provider-customer. This is likely to be his biggest failing from the perspective of Vox Media or whatever the company is called.
4) He is a lousy leader — one who demands deference rather than inspiring respect. I’ve no idea why he refers to himself as “blogfather” or “chief administrator”, when as far as I can tell his function is simply that of “administrator”. It’s not like he has a team of “sous-administrators” or capos or consiglieres or anything.
He seems like a well-meaning and worthwhile person who wants too much to be more than he is, an affliction that we all probably have at some point.
and, now, he’s apparently decided to take his ball and go home for realsies.
My bet is that he’s trying to ignore it and hope it all goes away, though I have no idea what’s going on behind the scenes with mods and Blez etc etc.
I *do* find it Fking hilarious that, AGAIN, he goes out of his way to say “I’m making my last comment” (OC Link) and said “there’s nothing that neeeds to be ‘solved’ that can’t be solved in 2 weeks”
He still didn’t unban me before he left. :LOL:
Thanks, and go As.
C-Fan… OK. Some people find Jim Carrey hialarious, I don’t. To each their own.
/spwc
Well stated, WC. Way to make me remember why I miss you when you’re not around.
he is a treasure, isn’t he?
Indeed. Recently I’ve realized that I like WC a lot more than.. well, than I realized.
You’re a good dude, WC.
Thanks, and go As.
On my first piece at the old country he argued with me about Josh Outman being in the rotation, it both educated me a lot and encouraged me to write a lot more.
I’m not positive, but I think dfa is Old Jimmy Wilson…
Can you people occasionally make references I get? Please?
wearing onions on our belts was the style at the time
we were riffing on the Ween song “Waving My Dick In The Wind”, until Future Ed played a “Wild, Remember To Simplify” on a red 2 (Eno/Uno reference) and dropped a classic Grampa Simpson joke.
Thanks Mike….hey wait! You didn’t like me before?
Am I the only one who giggles when I read “WC”?
PTBNL?
At work we use WC for Walnut Creek. One of the chicks in my department was from England and had the same reaction.
The rapper? Water closet? Wild Card? Is there some urban acronym I should be aware of?
Water Closet.
Bingo.
At my age, I’m often there
If we’re going the 10-year-old humor route, the town of Battle Mountain, NV used to have the town letters on the hillside on the outskirts of town, very visible from Interstate 80. They were removed some years ago, around the time one of those magazine articles dubbed the place “The Armpit of America”.
I’ve stayed in the Super 8 in Battle Mountain a few times, including two weeks ago.
I’m sorry.
It’s the perfect halfway point on the drive from Provo to Sacramento. Super 8s are always nice and clean, especially since there are no longer smoking rooms.
It’s the
perfecthalfway pointHuh, both Google Earth and Mapquest satellite imagery are showing the letters. I thought they’d been gone for a while. Maybe the community reinstalled them by popular demand?
How are the beds?
Thanks FE…..I think
yes, smart and funny are always my favorites
Don’t forget punk rock
that too.
Thanks LB
Given how & why he has the school job he does, possibly not (depending on the degree of self-awareness).
Ah, I figured it was something like that
I’m not clear on what you mean by “how & why he has the school job he does”. Is there some sinister story here?
Read my link. Nothing sinister — just garden-variety nepotism.
Also, let me guess — do Markos’s kids go there?
That’s not so bad, assuming he’s competent at the job.
Would you want your children dealing with tca?
No.
Then how good at his job do you imagine him being?
Well, I perceive him to be a mediocre megalomaniac and so I wouldn’t want anyone in my family exposed to him, but for someone who really thinks highly of him, and there are such people, it may be OK.
How many student do you think really think highly of their guidance counselors?
You mean career guidance or guidance for social/emotional issues?
In either way… Im just saying that I cant imagine a person that could possibly be a good fit for him to mentor.
I dunno. He might have technical knowledge about something like that. I’ve no idea.
Nope – they go to school with Lily.
Just the combination of being a employed there as a legacy and then the school deciding that guidance counselor was the best place to hide him away.
Oops. Meant to reply to ptbnl
Fair enough. That last bit is what I was trying to get at (but as you say by being too harsh)
I LOVE JEFF
And also, well said, WC.
Thanks Shoes.
Excellent!
Hey FSU,, good to see ya! Happy New Year to you and everyone here :D
Welcome.
Thanks for having me nm!
I just got here too, but I’m going to say “welcome” like I own the place.
Hee. Me too.
You do. As much as anyone who joined after our arbitrary no-more-editors date.
A. A meta thread in which he seeks to ban meta threads? Oh dear…
B. Paging nm and/or mb: I’ll let you guys handle the pending comment.
B. Done.
I approve pending comments when I notice them; I think the sense is that we all trust the judgement of all the early FKin adopters with such access.
Yep. Basically if its a real comment they’re fine.
Yeah this part of Nick’s thing is crap. If you come were here. If you don’t we don’t care which isn’t that were excluding you.
He’s right that we’re smaller, and not actively seeking yahooligans. Of course, he probably also argued that attracting yahooligans and getting bigger would change nothing.
Nick’s pretty smart and reasonable (I know him in real life). I don’t recall, but I’d be surprised if he made that argument. Of course, he’s a Harvard guy, so for your part you can assume the worst.
I like him just fine (though a bit less following that reveal). He’s always seemed to me to be on the other sides of those things, but I could be wrong.
Is Nick a real person?
Someone here’s met him or something, right?
nevermind… should have read further up.
Yes, in fact he was my housemate and co-worker as professional leftists for several years, and we attended each others’ weddings. Like DFA, he’s also a union organizer.
He is also a childhood friend of Nico’s.
Small world.
I was aware of that from the other night; I hate to see a pending comment sitting there unacted upon but in this particular situation I knew there had been a bit of friction between EN and an FKer or two even recently so I punted the decision.
Friction is just frisson mispelled.
See? I cause trouble even before I arrive.
no thats just me being grumpy… something ive never ever ever been accuse of before.
Yes, it’s tough to be you and walk down the street getting stopped every 15 feet by folks who mistake you for the Dalai Lama.
We have the same tailor.
Well played, sir.
Thank you.
Now go drink martinis and dance with cute boys and girls.
Yeah, leave this place to us AARPers for the rest of the evening. Sheesh, midnight is late. Yawwwwwwn.
soooooooooooooooo drunk right now.
[sigh]
trjue story
drunkie.
I bet you’re soooooooooooooooooooooooo hung over right now
One hopes there’s a used condom lying there someplace.
this made me smile.
True story.
Well, you’re here now and that’s what matters, and it’s a beautiful place to teach people something about/from your strengths and specialties, and learn from other people about/from their strengths and specialties.
I used to argue with many of these cats back in the old country, but that was then and this is now, and I feel blessed/agnostiblessed to be part of this community.
Yes, I had been a-lurkin’, seeing if I could maybe fit here in somehow, and today I decided to go for it.
Well you are rather tall…
I am totally looking forward to as much nobody goodness as you care to bring us.
lots of awesome musical links and hot propaganda…
We should write a prog symphony and/or ELP filk about Keynes!
Only if we tour it and demand in the rider that we get a different 10 million dollar Persian carpet to stand onstage on every night.
and individually dyed M&Ms in specific pantones.
and I’m looking forward to hangin’ with you people FSU. I appreciate the acceptance, a lot.
The more the merrier. I mean, we put up with LB and grover
i think im far more onery than eiher.
grover’s MUCH more prickly than you. But as a general rule? Yeah.
lies
You’re geninely cuddly, tho…
At first I read this as “i think im far more horny than ethier”
also true
I know I am.
But not as horny as Desme.
lol
Monkeyball likes me. He encourages me to write and stuff.
What stuff?
I got stuff!
I have a special purpose
I tell you to fuck off, but I think that too inspires more posting.
I ignore you because you’re opinion is based on subjective analysis of the reasons behind my success.
iFSU analysis subjects you.
Gin or vodka for the night? Banned if you don’t respond.
.
Imported or domestic liquor. Wait…AIEEEEEE! (catapults into gorge of eternal peril)
Absolute V Beefeater… its what I can afford these days.
Response is No.
Currently working on Lagunitas Sucks Holiday Ale. Also available are Sierra Nevada Celebration, Wasatch Winterfest, Uinta Dubhe Imperial Black IPA and Dogfish Head Chicory Stout.
I don’t want to drink beer… I want to make out with some cute girls and dance.
In that case, vodka.
Me too.
I mean, I get to make out and dance with my wife, which is awesome, but I’m kind of a whore and could use a good multisexual orgy right about now.
Gin martinis – Lily’s doing the mixing.
gotta have a skill
How very Mad Men of you. Next teach her old fashioneds.
and French 77’s!
I do have vermouth but no olives (well katamala)
Thank you for respecting the vermouth.
A good vermouth adds complex flavor to a martini.
Used judiciously.
an open bottle in the same room is not my personal definition of “judiciously”
OK, put it in the next room if you must.
/TWSS
one flew over the bottle’s nest
/Auntie Mame
You may have a present sitting at your office. If it’s not there yet then I guess Tuesday. Happy New Year!
Woo Hoo!!! Thank you :)
Auntie Mame has gone insane, she lives in the doorway of an old hotel…
…and the radio is playing opera… all she ever says is “Go To Hell!”
BTW, if any of you awesome FKers are only a degree or two separated from Tom Waits on the Kevin Bacon scale, I found an awesome one man band-mobile in Sacramento he needs to come up this way and see.
Champagne, starting with a lovely Dosnon & Lepage recolte rose. And Romulan for the herbal counterpart.
Romulan Invasion?
wow, the Rom is the bomb!
I get hangovers from champ almost instantly. Its a bad idea.
yes (DON’T BAN ME, BRO!)
White Russians, but I’m sure I’ll drink a Celebration or two before the night’s up.
I’m hanging out with my favorite person in the world, which always makes me happy :)
She did my hair this afternoon, and it turned out super cute!
1. Glass of Chimay (local bodega didn’t have anything more interesting in a Belgian)
2. Eggnog with Bushmills
Didn’t quite make it to midnight for any drinking.
Poole, Brisby agree on baseball. World explodes.
wow, the Mayans really were right on!
Hooray! A happy new year for the SF simian crowd!
yay Banana Sam! What is wrong with people?!
Wonder if it was one of the survivors of the tiger mauling. Would at least show they were learning.
Is there going to be a “Survivors Of The Tiger Mauling” reunion soon? What instrument did you play in THAT band?
And did you sing “Eye of the Tiger”?
Damn, those poor people in Japan… they’re all like “Finally, that year when the buildings fell down and the fuel rods melted is FINALLY OVER!!!!” And then another 7.0 hits, 1st day of the year. Jeebus.
2011 sucks.
Word. Last couple of years have.
Anyone else keep reading the first word of this post title as Anal Drop? No? Just me then [slinks away into next year].
I wasn’t before, but now I keep seeing Anal Trop.
Anal Top?
Is that like Carrot Top only with a giant red ass instead of a fro?
…and funnier
Well I’d hope that would go without saying. A rock is funnier.
I’d start a band called “Anal Drop,” but then Monkey would just tell me that he’d already played Sousaphone in a band with that name back in college.
My seriously-good band name for anyone from Marin: Bolinas Police Department
Dogs run free on the streets of Bolinas.
I’m just saying… great name for a Marin stoner band
Made up of all police for the department.
Not like they’ve got anything better to do.
true. I liked Bolinas, though.
so happy new year, FKers. Much love.
I’m holding out judgement for the former while reciprocally returning the latter in kind.
as long as you help us defeat the Stay Puft marshmallow man on 12/21/12, I support you.
Fuck yeah I’m in. I’m bringing the chocolate.
I’ll bring the bonfire of the vanities to toast him.
[looks outside]
No christmas trees on fire. I don’t believe you
You’re 356 days early on that one, doc.
not in the Ghetto. They burn trees today.
They care not for the solstice
This. And to EC from several hours ago.
Happy FK’in New Year, folks!!!! All the bestest!!!!!!
Happy New Year, you wonderful old Building and Loan!
zuzu’s pedals
Zuzu. What a name.
Pazuzu’s petals
Imagine trying to make that movie today: the noble job creator just wants to be left alone so he can create more dance club jobs, but some asshole keeps trying to redistribute wealth.
Sugar Magnolia, Playin –> UJB. It’s eternal. Happy New Year!
Same as it ever was.
Happy New Year – welcome 2012!
Maybe it’s time for Furthur to do some Byrne and/or Eno covers?
They’ve left that job to Phish.
Weir has done “Take Me to the River” (Al Green originally, I know) and it kind of sucked.
Foghat did that too. It was….er….different
My favorite re-cover of that is on a Bryan Ferry solo album.
Listening to it on youtube now. Nice. But I still like Al Green the best. Al Green is awesome.
Happy FKing New Year FKers.
Welcomed in with a replay of Time Square, where first I’m told that the opening chords of Imagine are supposed to put me in mind of nothing more than the dropping of their crystal ball, and then made to suffer a rendition that changes “And no religion too” to “And all religions true”, performed in front of dozens of the best and brightest billboards.
What do you call an bad-tempered drone?
A grumble bee.
best night ever.
haven’t even looked at ** since Slusser’s post.
FK all of it.
Love you guys.
Thanks, and go As.
You too. But you really need to honor my request from last week.
lof you much.
oh, jesus fuck.
i almost woke up my blissfully sleeping wife laughing at the meta thread about banning meta.
Thanks, and go As.
Oh, and for those who care (which, at this time, does not include me) — I am still not reinstated.
Thanks, and go As.
LMAO
Of course not, they haven’t agreed to no more public meta ever.
LOL
Perfect
I think you should e-mail them and ask for a meeting to discuss this
I sent a proposal with my Outlook calendar.
Thanks, and go As.
I think that you should propose that he comes and meet you at 345 AM local time in Reykjavik. Youre not against communicating with him you just don’t think that doing so in the US is the best way to go about these kinds of situations.
heh
I just checked, and Mike is still not reinstated, and will presumably not be for the next 2 weeks whilst the issue is on ice. Which disgusts me.
Makes sense, the only way to reinstate mike is for everyone to agree to the Keystone Pipeline.
It’s funny cause that’s the one thing universally agreed on in that thread. I think they’re trying to maximize traffic through meta.
Im not sure why that is unexpect. Im still waiting for BBG to email me to let me know if I am going to get unbanned because she was “working on the other mods” That was July.
oh noes, more dirty laundry all over the internets
Okay, time for you to ban tca & blez.
Or maybe just ban all the thousands of members and leave TCA all by himself there, damn. It’s no use…. even that would probably not work.
I tried to help this all reach a dignified conclusion, I really did. When I went directly to Blez and then facilitated him getting with Mike on FB chat to talk about it, I was able to convince Blez to convince TCA to email Mike again… Mike assured me he’d respond (which he immediately did) and I was under the impression that given the stipulations made by TCA earlier, Mike would be reinstated once they exchanged e-missives and the main issue would be fixed.
Then it became that Mike had to go meet him or pose with him in a reenactment of the cover of Fleetwood Mac’s Rumours LP or whatever it was, and it escalated to where now they have guaranteed two full weeks of meta mayhem and meltdown madness over there by icing the advancement of whatever resolution might be decided upon for those 14 days.
I dunno, I did all I could and tried to be a good diplomat but TCA seems to have a good helping of contempt on his mind and I’m not f*ckin’ Jesus Christ, I can’t magically wave my hand and make people act like responsible adults, much less viable or credible leaders, you know?
If you were fucking Jesus that would make the Bible far more interesting.
Good thing I wasn’t drinking cow juice when I read that one…
…otherwise my iMac would be an iMilk!
It should have been a big FKing “Tounces, you’re heading for the cliff” moment when you step up and started going “Wooooh there horsy.”
Well thanks for trying. I’m sure everyone appreciates it no matter what mood they’re in.
If this does go on for 2 weeks they could have a nightline inspired daily meta thread…
I think there are more than 52 people there, and no one is keeping them hostage
I think that some of them might be keeping themselves hostage.
Still, that’s not gonna prevent me from making up a bunch of “Nicotollah Assaholah” T-shirts.
That’s my all-time favorite episode.
“I’m sorry, sir. We don’t have any stew.”
Disco Stu went from a one-off joke into one of my favorite Simpsons characters.
Whenever someone suggests I should be more into self-promotion, I reply “Disco Stu doesn’t advertise!”
Can I just say that I feel like that his “OP’s fanpost kissing my ass is the epitome of everything that is good about **” is offensive to anyone who has ever spent time writing a real baseball fanpost over there.
And you’d be correct.
haven’t read it. DOn’t care to.
Nor have ai read anything but the two meta threads
OP’s post isn’t that bad; just a “it’s a new year and thanks to everyone who works behind the scenes” tip o’ the cap.
Ya I liked it too.
The post is fine. But is it the best example of all that is good about **?
Maybe. It was a list of what people liked about site — sort of like a flashback episode in sitcom. Probably not the best episode or even good, but arguably a series of highlights.
He wrote a thing about how he got a fucking Christmas card from a poster and then thanked the Administrators who are destroying it… = ALL THAT IS RIGHT AND GOOD???
I don’t think he said the Administrators are destroying it. He seemed silent on that topic
DFA’s point is that the admins are destroying that place, regardless of what OP said about that.
Well OK, but I can see why OP didn’t address that. It’s being addressed in a bunch of other places. He was trying to add some balance. Not every post has to be about how crappy the administrators are.
Right but Im tired of X problem existing because of the shitty way the Admins (Nico and BBG mostly) run the place and when people bring up X problem their answer is “Admining is hard, you should be thanking us.” When I got banned, BBG basically blamed the long litany of personal attacks against me getting passes because she started a new job, the A’s were shitty, admining was hard, and I really shouldn’t have used the flagging system but rather emailed her. Basically every time a series of shitty decisions blows up in their face they pull this line and invariably, sycophant comes along and writes a THANKS MODs post.
I tried to debunk that “admining is hard” thing. It’s neither rocket science nor bricklaying.
Also they may be doing a bad job, but that doesn’t mean they’re not well meaning and trying hard. Being bad at your job doesn’t mean you deserve never to be thanked for anything.
Well, they’re the perfect people to be admin’ing a blog following the exploits of Forst, Beane, & Zaidi.
#GMingishard
Damn.
At this point, I’m pretty much 100% with DFA — this organization is through-and-through incompetent, from the top down.
So what does that make us, MB?
I’m not switching allegiance to the Giants.
I’m with you there. Except Korach. I like him.
@grover:
Kind of like being citizens of the US under post-Eisenhower GOP administrations
@WC:
KenKo has as many admin duties as
GioCahillBaileyWeeks.@MB:
I’m not that old, why don’t you tell me what it was like.
I’m old. Nixon was paranoid and dishonest. Ford was milquetoast. Reagan was good but there was lots of Wall Street corruption. Bush I was Reagan but without the affability. Bush II was Nixon without the resignation.
Overall I’d say the country is a billion times better now than it was in 1969, despite the rotten economy.
I think they mean well. But its really easy to screw something like a blog up if youre doing it because its work rather than it being fun.
They should be asking themselves WWJFLLD.
jflld?
Jeff from Lookout Landing do.
I don’t think they can do that, because then you need charisma and writing talent. They need to find their own path.
@WC ouch but true. Also Graham is pretty fucking smart.
Well played, WaterCloset, well played.
That comes across meaner than I meant it. I meant that they need to look at their own strengths and maximize the benefit from those. It’s just that those strengths are not the same ones that Jeff Sullivan has.
Mean or not, it’s… kind of accurate nonetheless. Jeff doesn’t his homework with his thoughts, he’s not about throwing shit at the wall, hoping people adore him for it and then claiming he was just trying to start a conversation when he’s immediately proven wrong while not bothering to learn from what transpires. I don’t read Jeff (though I should), but I’d imagine he’s been proven wrong once or twice before and came out the better for it. People are wrong all the time, it’s how they handle it that defines them.
Yeah thats just not accurate Im never wrong /josh donaldson
Nah, lots of people do a great job at work and have fun too. Take bar owners for example.
Some big mistakes they made included caving to Yahoo! and driving away sal, MB, Andeux et al., eliminating the “chick talk”, not paying the writers even a pittance, and putting incompetent people in charge just because they were willing to work hard for cheap.
It should have been tougher to get the administrator job, insisting on someone who would create a diverse and inclusive community. This is actually more consistent with a profit motive than “fun” because “fun” can mean “fun for the administrator” and not for everyone else.
The administrator job is as hard as you make it. There is no reason the administrator has to write regularly, if he/she isn’t as good at it as MB, Bloom, sal, elcroata, EN/NIP, etc.
The writers should have looked for ways to get more posters to write articles by looking for articles to promote before posting their own writings.
Basically everybody has to get their ego out of the way and include as many people as deeply as possible, old and new.
I’m willing to bet you that this approach would have resulted in growing numbers and a real competition with LL.
Basically I was saying that they complain about it being such hard work so often that it seems like it affects their work.
I agree that it should have been a lot harder to get the job; I mean seriously who looks at the dude making antigay and sheep molestation jokes all the time and says “Boy this is really who I should pick to lead this community.”
The complaining about it being hard work shouldn’t happen. I mean seriously, if it’s that much of a fucking pita, QUIT. It’s not like you’re being paid so what are you really losing from it? Just go back to posting whenever about whatever. The job should be easy. Keep the most active users happy and stay the fuck out of the way.
I really don’t want anyone complaining that their job is hard. That’s why I really hate when Beane makes excuses. If it’s so f’in hard, get out.
Yeah Billy Bitching is annoying. I complain about my job because it is hard but Im good at my job and actively try to make it better and someone has to do it.
It’s weird, when it comes to Beane, I don’t really see him complaining. When he’s “making excuses” I see it more as him admitting he’s failed within the tight parameters that he has. Since most of his words are built into someone else’s context, it’s hard to see what how he’s intending them. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him not take ownership of his failures and ultimately, aside from being good friends with him, it’s why he had so much trouble firing Geren, because he saw it as his own failure to build a good team.
Nobody should ever complain about hard work they can voluntarily walk away from.
I wanted to punch a jackass DA in the throat tuesday when he complained to me that he wanted to go forward on something dumb when they fucked up because “he worked over the holiday weekend”
If you don’t want to do the work, don’t take the job.
Seems to be a name missing.
You should ban him.
Can I have an AI reader too?
I already have the USB port installed in the side of my head!
That depends on whether you think the purpose of the site is to make friends or to discuss baseball seriously.
Or?
Some people might not care about the second thing at all.
Which is just weird for a baseball site. It would make sense here, less so there. Then again, my mind is semi-removing the word “seriously” from your comment for some reason.
That’s fair. I was using “seriously” since DFA used “real”
And my mind, for whatever reason, choose to completely edit that word out. It was really strange.
It’s on a different line. Therefore it doesn’t count.
happy new year FKers. I gotta pass out and then play golf when I wake up.
Thanks, and go As.
Enjoy the round.
Today in Hayekian Modesty
didn’t know toonces was from indiana
Wow. What people won’t do to take their constituents’ minds off the economy
It’s a new source of state income…
Plus employment. You’ll need a special branch of the police force to make investigate cases of anthem tampering. You may even need undercover officers.
But government jobs aren’t really jobs…
This is where I’d get “prickly” before but I’ve changed with the new year.
That’s a bummer.
Hater.
Well in this case they aren’t real jobs.
This whole issue of government jobs is a shame. It’s pretty insulting to anyone in public service to have their careers written off as a scheme to create make-work for people, which the left believes is good and the right believes is bad.
I wish Obama had taken the opportunity to do what Kennedy did in the early ’60s in the stimulus, with a vision for how awesome this government spending was going to make things, rather than just trying to increase employment rolls.
Government jobs in the very free markets of Hong Kong and Singapore have a lot more prestige than those in the US, and those governments do a lot for the people — public housing, infrastructure, development planning, and all kinds of other stuff.
The framing of the issue of government jobs as “more vs less” rather than “how can we best use government to improve our country” irritates me.
Speaking of the title, I made it through one episode of Portlandia and gave up. Seems like they are trying way to hard.
I have yet to see it, don’t think I will
It’s actually really remarkable — unless you’re DFA, any experience of Portland has very very little to do with DFHs
I don’t think that is true. Portland is one of the youngest cities in the country and it doesn’t have a lot of families. I mean the whole SE and NE is like Portlandia. Not so much the west side. But really do people go over there besides to go to Powells anyway?
Imma hook you up with the westside-born-and-raised wife of my college pal, and she’ll break your jaw
I love it. DFA may have the portland thing, but those aren’t his people. They are more mine
Mike V. has just been reinstated back in the old country, in case anyone is unaware.
by whom?
no idea. Maybe Dan? He announced it but hinestly I’ve no real clue.
He emailed me and told me I was back.
I don’t know who pressed the button.
Thanks, and go As.
I do know that he posted your reinstatement about 20 minutes after I blew up with a comment asking why it was so hard to do this.
So, what the hell, I’ll take the credit.
Why are you taking Slussers credit /future ed
nice
Is this a short term love affair with Slusser or do you seriously lof her now?