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It’s Us vs Them 62

28 Oct 2010  |  monkeyball  |The Grill
  1. The A’s vs everyone else
  2. Tag-team match: Wash & Vlad vs Logic & Time the Destroyer

    Also: really?

    He’d just seen his team give up more than 10 runs for only the third time all year.

  3. Jerry vs Meg
    Understatement of the political season: “I don’t think voters have warmed up to Meg Whitman”
  4. Sandy vs Illinois Nazis (and the rest of the NL East)
  5. Jeff Gray vs replacement-level hitters
  6. Maury Brown vs grace and noblesse oblige (And, yes, Grace and Noblesse O. are Mary J.’s sisters.)
  7. The incarceration industry vs good government, liberty, and brown people
  8. Obama vs Stewart
  9. Obama vs lefty bloggers
  10. Henry Farrell vs McMegan
  11. Us vs Them:

62 thoughts on “It’s Us vs Them”

  1. nanotrebuchet Oct 28,2010 12:47 pm

    Today, I cut my mrs trebuchet’s sandwich into four pieces and picotrebuchet’s sandwich into two pieces. I am in a lot of trouble after work.

    • nevermoor Oct 28,2010 12:50 pm || Up

      You are a failure of a human being. I mean seriously, WHO DOES THAT?!?

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • monkeyball Oct 28,2010 12:55 pm || Up

      JP is extremely diligent about reminding me when a bite of anything is TOO BIG!

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • batgirl Oct 28,2010 1:00 pm || Up

        Papa! This is clearly more than a petit four!!

        • Leopold Bloom Nov 2,2010 12:59 pm || Up

          We should obviously make JP a guest judge.

    • batgirl Oct 28,2010 12:57 pm || Up

      I don’t see why mrs. trebuchet will be upset. You’ve just added a surprising note of civility into her workaday world.

      Now picotrebuchet on the other hand…

    • grover Oct 28,2010 1:09 pm || Up

      So you turn Us vs Them to Everyone vs You.

    • ptbnl Oct 28,2010 1:38 pm || Up

      But what shapes were the pieces? ‘Cause if you get that wrong …

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  2. nevermoor Oct 28,2010 12:54 pm

    6: Clearly all stadiums should be built to accommodate the maximum possible number of writers who would want seats in a World Series held there.

    And should do it with the best real estate in the luxury box ring.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  3. monkeyball Oct 28,2010 12:55 pm
    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  4. monkeyball Oct 28,2010 1:18 pm

    This. Is. Awesome.

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  5. nevermoor Oct 28,2010 1:52 pm
    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  6. ptbnl Oct 28,2010 2:18 pm

    2. Really not. Actually the 4th, but they won one of them

    May 6th, 13-12 vs Kansas City (Harrison 5.0IP/4ER, Nippert 0.1IP/5ER)
    May 14th, 10-16 vs Toronto (Harden 2.2IP/7ER, Mathis 1.1IP/8ER)
    Sept 4th, 4-12 vs Minnesota (Lewis 3.2IP/9ER, Harden 2.0IP/3ER)

    Plus 4 more times in spring training (9-13 vs Anaheim, 2-12 vs Cleveland, 5-14 vs San Diego, 1-12 vs Cubs), which I presume Wash watched.

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • monkeyball Oct 28,2010 2:41 pm || Up

      That’s genuinely surprising.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • ptbnl Oct 28,2010 2:55 pm || Up

        Yup … Texas poitching just ain’t what it used to be.

        For comparison:

        – the A’s gave up more than 10 runs 4 times, twice with Cahill starting.

        – the Yankees only had 1 such game (Sabathia against Cleveland), but 6 games where they gave up exactly 10 runs, 3 of which were against Tampa Bay.

        – the Rays had 8 such, 7 against divisional rivals (3 BOS, 2 TOR, 1 NYY, 1 BAL).

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  7. ptbnl Oct 28,2010 2:32 pm
    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 28,2010 2:53 pm || Up

      Prozone versus Anfield and the Premier-go-round.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • ptbnl Oct 28,2010 2:59 pm || Up

        ISWYDT.

        A tangential point of interest is that many of the comments are (relatively) thoughtful and informed, and you don’t often see that on a public/news site.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  8. FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 28,2010 2:50 pm

    2. Could also have been dubbed Robo versus Powerman and the Runners-go-round.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  9. andeux Oct 28,2010 2:59 pm

    4. I don’t think DePo worked for Alderson in Oakland.

    TINSTAAFK
    • ptbnl Oct 28,2010 3:03 pm || Up

      Nope – Alderson left for the Commissioner’s Office in 98 and DePo joined the A’s in 99. But why let the facts get in the way of a good story.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • monkeyball Oct 28,2010 3:19 pm || Up

        He’ll be played by John Goodman.

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
        • Leopold Bloom Nov 2,2010 1:00 pm || Up

          Who will be played by me.

          You are entering a world of pain, Monkey.

          • monkeyball Nov 2,2010 1:06 pm || Up

            And Sal as Steve Buscemi.

            you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  10. monkeyball Oct 28,2010 3:26 pm
    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  11. monkeyball Oct 28,2010 3:28 pm

    Gammons: Sawx going hahd aftuh Crahfuhd, Yanks may get in on bidding

    I think Acronym signing with the Yankees would be optimal, especially if we could pry Swisher back. (Said the former Swisher-h8r.)

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • grover Oct 28,2010 3:36 pm || Up

      Yanks are rumored to maybe shop Swisher for SP.

      Gee. Oh. Whatever could one come up with?

      • monkeyball Oct 28,2010 3:38 pm || Up

        I would be perfectly happy with that deal.

        Gio would get totally Pavanoed.

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
        • grover Oct 28,2010 3:54 pm || Up

          The problem is it leaves a huge, gaping hole in the rotation. Maybe Gio stinks in 2011, but he definitely gave quality service in 2010 and the A’s are going to need similar IP next year if they want to contend.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 28,2010 4:16 pm || Up

      Only if Swish grows the hair and the beard back. If he stays with the clean-cut Yankee look I want no part of him.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  12. monkeyball Oct 28,2010 3:30 pm
    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  13. Soaker Oct 28,2010 4:02 pm

    WE need to get our butts out there and vote because THEY sure are.

    Here are the early voting stats in my little county in Nevada, where Republicans are a majority, not just a plurality, of the active registered voters. Gross numbers aside, through yesterday today it shows that 40% 44% of the Republicans have already voted vs. 32% 36% of the Democrats (updated). An early indication that R vs. D turnout may well be the factor that ends Harry Reid’s career in the Senate.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • monkeyball Oct 28,2010 4:19 pm || Up

      Howzabout we start a meme where GOPers are voting early to engage in VOTE FRAUD!!!1!

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • nevermoor Oct 28,2010 4:30 pm || Up

        Howzabout all you slackers just vote.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • andeux Oct 28,2010 4:34 pm || Up

          This slacker mailed his ballot today.

          TINSTAAFK
          • monkeyball Oct 28,2010 4:36 pm || Up

            Mailing mine tmw.

            you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
            • nevermoor Oct 28,2010 4:41 pm || Up

              Good for one of you (so far).

              I mailed mine a week ago.

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
              • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 28,2010 4:48 pm || Up

                Luddite that I am, I still enjoy the act of going to my local polling place and casting a ballot in the voting booth.

                "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
                • nevermoor Oct 28,2010 4:52 pm || Up

                  Fair enough (although my wife says that too and just didn’t vote last time).

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • Soaker Oct 28,2010 5:02 pm || Up

                  That’s how I feel about it too, but when I lived in Rockridge I didn’t like having to wait in line for 15 minutes. One nice thing about living in a rural area: if you need to go to the courthouse there’s no parking hassle; you just pull up to the foot of the steps and park for free. I was down that way on Tuesday so I got the voting booth experience there, on my schedule (might be out of town for a couple days next week).

                  What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
                • batgirl Oct 28,2010 5:21 pm || Up

                  Me too! I love going to vote in the booth. Plus the biddies who run our station are a real crack up.

  14. ptbnl Oct 28,2010 4:23 pm

    I have a very soft spot for Mike Leigh.

    And for the promised off-season film discussions, High Hopes is one of my favorites.

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  15. monkeyball Oct 28,2010 4:37 pm

    Grant: awesome.

    Great to see that he finagled tix.

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  16. grover Oct 28,2010 4:52 pm

    MLBTR has an early release of the official Elias Rankings. Ellis ends up as a Type B FA.

    • monkeyball Oct 28,2010 4:55 pm || Up

      That should pretty much eliminate any reason to let him walk, right?

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • grover Oct 28,2010 5:03 pm || Up

        I think it gives the A’s more reason to let him walk. No one was going to sign Ellis and give up a draft pick in the process. Now, maybe someone will be interested in offering a multi-year deal… earning the A’s a Sup 1 pick.

        But I doubt it happens.

  17. nanotrebuchet Oct 28,2010 7:26 pm
    • batgirl Oct 29,2010 6:48 am || Up

      I’m telling you–I’m starting to think Dodger fans are crazy. I’ve now discovered that I have two die-hard Dodger fan friends who are openly rooting for the Giants.

      At this point, there is no acceptable conclusion for this mess of a match up. All I can hope for is that it goes 7 and each team loses their particular games in increasingly embarrassing ways: bad pitching, error-prone defense, baserunning disasters, closer meltdowns.

    • monkeyball Oct 29,2010 6:57 am || Up

      no self-respecting a’s fan would root for the rang — whaaaat?

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • nanotrebuchet Oct 29,2010 7:09 am || Up

        Oh, please. Dogers/Giants is on par with Yankees/Red Sox and Cubs/Cardinals. Next tier would be Braves/Mets, Twins/White Sox, maybe a few others. A’s/Rangers doesn’t show up until past A’s/Angels; it’s more on par with the Cleveland/KC grudge matches.

        My preference is for the Giants to win, for a few reasons:
        1. Giants/A’s is not really a rivalry in the Cal/Stanford regional battle vein. It’s more like a friendly competition.
        2. The less of a financial windfall for the Rangers, the better it is for the A’s. The last time a division rival won the WS and came under new ownership, we got the Moreno Angels — which has been an unmitigated disaster for Oakland.
        3. I view the A’s and Giants as complementary goods and not substitute goods. That is, I think the A’s benefit by the Giants success, and vice versa, because it increases interest in Bay Area baseball in general.

        • monkeyball Oct 29,2010 7:37 am || Up

          Oh, I know — I agree with all that.

          You, PT, and I are all on the same page.

          you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
          • nanotrebuchet Oct 29,2010 8:05 am || Up

            re:1

            1. The fact that the split SF/A’s abomination of a hat even exists tells you that this just isn’t a serious rivalry.
            2. No murders or beatings in the Giants/A’s rivalry that I know of.
            3. Not enough interest in baseball in general for it get that serious.
            4. Most haunting memory of Giants/A’s rivalry in my life: when I was seven, I was over at my best friend David’s house to watch Game 2 of the WS. He was a Giants fan, I was an A’s fan. The A’s scored a bunch of runs early (I think Rickey had an RBI) and what happened? Did I taunt David? He try to tackle me? Did we fight? No. He ran to the TV, turned it off, started crying, and I had to call his mom into the room to make him feel better. I felt pretty bad for him.

            • monkeyball Oct 29,2010 8:19 am || Up

              4. You should have stepped on his neck

              you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
              • nevermoor Oct 29,2010 9:59 am || Up

                That only works on for women.

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • JediLeroy Oct 29,2010 4:57 pm || Up

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          • Leopold Bloom Nov 2,2010 1:04 pm || Up

            good company, there.

        • andeux Oct 29,2010 9:24 am || Up

          I disagree with (3). The more success the Giants have, the more marginalized the A’s will be by casual fans and the local press. And that can have longer-term repercussions than a rise in Rangers payroll due to increased revenue.

          TINSTAAFK
          • nanotrebuchet Oct 29,2010 9:35 am || Up

            I think that’s reasonable, too. My feeling is based on opinion, so it very well could be wrong.

          • ptbnl Oct 29,2010 12:47 pm || Up

            How much more marginal can the A’s get in the local media?

            Also, come interleague next year it’ll be fun to be beating up the World Champions.

            If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
            • nevermoor Oct 29,2010 12:53 pm || Up

              KNOCKS FURIOUSLY ON WOOD

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"

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