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Rosterbaiting Grill 191

So the offseason is upon us, I figure a new grill would be appropriate.

What I have seen in limited Twitter scrolling is that Kolton Wong and Corey Kluber have had options declined. Speculation is that the market will be saturated. what that means to me is that clubs that are in the hunt for 2021 and 2022 should be aggressively shopping for bargains. But you know, that’s just me.

A list of losses:

191 thoughts on “Rosterbaiting Grill

  1. 5Aces 5Aces Oct 28,2020 4:33 pm

    I was going to start by thinking about what we need. But I guess that depends on what Fisher is trying to do. So I’ll think happy thoughts and say we are actually trying to win.

    -We need to rebuild the bullpen
    -A true #1 starter. Even if somehow Puk is healthy and starting and Jesus takes the next step we need someone for a game 1 that will go 5-6 innings.
    -A 2B (begin the LaStella debate)

    What else?

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 28,2020 4:39 pm || Up

      A shortstop

      A lefty hitting outfielder (Seth Brown/Luis Barerra?)

      • 5Aces 5Aces Oct 28,2020 5:37 pm || Up

        I read (I think it was in SuSlu’s gloomy mailbag) That they have plans for Seth. But I dont see that bat of renown holding up over a full season up here.

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • andeux andeux Oct 28,2020 5:14 pm || Up

      Even in better circumstances, there is no way this team would ever go out and get a “true #1 starter” on the open market.

      TINSTAAFK
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 28,2020 5:36 pm || Up

        That’s true, and same with a true #1 closer, a power hitting OF, or an established quality SS. Reducing the options to serviceable parts, upside reclamations, and career bests from youngsters.

        I will pay to see this team play next year and be glad for the opportunity.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • 5Aces 5Aces Oct 28,2020 5:38 pm || Up

        HAPPY THOUGHTS!

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
      • vignette17 Nov 2,2020 9:35 am || Up

        I mean…they got Lester. So there is a very narrow scope where they can, but 99% agree.

  2. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 28,2020 5:01 pm
    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • ptbnl Oct 28,2020 7:08 pm || Up

      If anyone should know …

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • Future Ed Future Ed Oct 28,2020 7:10 pm || Up

      I agree with Jared Kushner

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • andeux andeux Oct 28,2020 7:20 pm || Up

      While the obvious irony of that quote is of course hilarious, I’m not sure where he’s getting:

      It was a complaint that public health experts had had too much influence over the administration’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, a state of affairs Kushner said had been corrected.

      What was written at the time (also WaPo) was:

      Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and senior adviser, is quoted by Woodward as saying, “The most dangerous people around the president are overconfident idiots,” which Woodward interprets as a reference to Mattis, Tillerson and former National Economic Council director Gary Cohn.

      TINSTAAFK
  3. Future Ed Future Ed Oct 28,2020 7:20 pm

    Kolton Wong is interesting. Lefty, league average bat, good defense. 30. might be looking for too many years.

    If nothing else will make laStella cheaper. I am not a fan of lastella or being cheap. I think this is the year the A’s have to invest. Probably better for building a stadium too.

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • 5Aces 5Aces Oct 29,2020 8:07 am || Up

      I agree on the investment strategy. But no one has ever become rich by betting that Fisher will spend money on the team.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 29,2020 8:19 am || Up

        Well, except Beane.

        • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 29,2020 9:40 am || Up

          Beane has become rich by hedging against chance Fisher will invest in the team.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • Future Ed Future Ed Oct 29,2020 10:25 am || Up

            that’s the other michael lewis book

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • 5Aces 5Aces Oct 29,2020 11:16 am || Up

            He’s a contrarian investor!

            Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  4. Future Ed Future Ed Oct 28,2020 9:55 pm

    Buttigieg is going for something, I don’t know where he fits though, UN sec?. I don’t think its defense, treasury, HHS or HUD, needs to be high profile.

    I think his ask is state.

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Future Ed Future Ed Oct 29,2020 10:14 pm || Up

      Refreshing to see qualified people attached to the positions. Obviously some are really dumb, but they are thinking UN ambassador for pete too

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 30,2020 8:37 am || Up

        Please don’t appoint Meg Whitman to anything, unless the goal is to wreck it.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • andeux andeux Oct 30,2020 9:11 am || Up

          I’m hoping, probably in vain, that floating names like Whitman and Kasich now is just pandering for never-trumper votes, and not a real sign of who he would pick. Obama already tried including republicans in his cabinet in an attempt at bipartisanship, and it accomplished nothing.

          TINSTAAFK
          • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 6,2020 9:45 am || Up

            Would make an exception here for Susan Collins. Toomey, Tillis, and Burr are also welcome to leave applications with the receptionist.

            • andeux andeux Nov 6,2020 10:17 am || Up

              Any one of them would make a great Secretary of Keeping It Real.

              TINSTAAFK
        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 30,2020 9:16 am || Up

          “Quibi CEO” seems like a self-disqualifying description.

        • colin colin Oct 30,2020 10:09 am || Up

          Only relevant / interesting for ptbnl: Meg Whitman and Abby Vieregg are cousins

        • vignette17 Nov 2,2020 9:37 am || Up

          I will say that when I worked at HP, I found that Whitman was the best CEO the company had had for quite a while. Whether that says more about the company or her, I’ll leave you to be the judge.

  5. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 29,2020 11:21 am
    • Future Ed Future Ed Oct 29,2020 11:30 am || Up

      All evidence shows he cannot, but man, just shut up already

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 29,2020 11:36 am || Up

        The idea that Biden is “vehemently supported” by The Intercept is the funniest thing I have read in a while.

    • AV AV Oct 29,2020 11:51 am || Up

      is this gonna be about glenn? ’cause i came here to talk about glenn.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 29,2020 11:52 am || Up

        I will not censor you from posting about Glenn.

        • AV AV Oct 29,2020 11:57 am || Up

          he’s really having a moment.

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • AV AV Oct 29,2020 11:52 am || Up

      YEEEESSSSSSS!!!

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 29,2020 12:43 pm || Up

      Ouch

      • Future Ed Future Ed Oct 29,2020 12:47 pm || Up

        “we are a bunch of assholes, but that guy, that guy is an Asshole”

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 29,2020 2:18 pm || Up

          “grown person throwing a tantrum” is a pretty on point description of Glenn’s usual state.

      • AV AV Oct 29,2020 1:06 pm || Up

        that’s a good smackdown.

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  6. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 29,2020 11:27 am

    Looking forward to seeing how this plays out.

    • Soaker Soaker Oct 29,2020 12:52 pm || Up

      It’s odd, although I couldn’t blame Blake Snell for thinking “I would take my chances playing for Tony La Russa rather than a robot like Kevin Cash”.

      Support locally made sausage!
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 29,2020 2:13 pm || Up

        I wish Tony the best but it feels like chances this goes badly are about 50x more likely than success.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • 5Aces 5Aces Oct 29,2020 2:38 pm || Up

          I may have to get the full MLB package just to watch Sox games and see his interactions with Anderson all season long.

          Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • mikeA Oct 30,2020 11:05 am || Up

      They should bring back the early 80s unis/hats.

  7. AV AV Oct 29,2020 2:53 pm

    2020 is so weird it comes after 2021.

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  8. Future Ed Future Ed Oct 29,2020 4:37 pm

    Probably college too (Green, choice, murray etc)

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • andeux andeux Oct 29,2020 5:08 pm || Up

      Matt Chapman is pretty good.

      TINSTAAFK
      • Future Ed Future Ed Oct 29,2020 6:35 pm || Up

        olson was supplemental? does that count?

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • andeux andeux Nov 1,2020 2:36 pm || Up
      TINSTAAFK
  9. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 29,2020 5:24 pm

    So if we were to have an FK pool for Election Day, what neutral source is best for calls? I’m thinking something like “Pick the Electoral Vote totals as of noon on Weds Nov 4: Biden, Trump, Undecided.” According to…?

    We should also handicap the final outcome on 1/20/21, but that has more than three choices.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • AV AV Oct 29,2020 5:47 pm || Up

      538?

      but also, fuck that pool. i got deep viscerals (and flashbacks) just reading that idea.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 29,2020 6:27 pm || Up

        Like Emma G, if I can’t dance gamble and screw I don’t want to be part of your revolution.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • AV AV Oct 29,2020 7:53 pm || Up

          i just see screwing as the kind of dancing where you can yell jackpot.

          and that saves me time for a nice swim tuesday evening.

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • Future Ed Future Ed Oct 29,2020 6:59 pm || Up

      I don’t want to be too much of an optimist, but my mom told me that my bernie bro parents are voting biden. First dem since 84. If marge worked for the carter administration by voting for him twice, my parents were in the nader cabinet.

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • ptbnl Oct 29,2020 8:24 pm || Up

      Shudder.

      I have no idea what is going to happen. I do know the DOE labs are being asked about their crisis plans in case of insurgency.

      And as much as I want to believe that there are depths to which the US body politic won’t sink, after the last 4 years I’m not sure where they are any more.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 30,2020 11:06 am || Up

        Insurgency by whom?

        • Future Ed Future Ed Oct 30,2020 11:10 am || Up

          the police

          Trumpers have control of them

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • AV AV Oct 30,2020 12:49 pm || Up

            oh shit.

            did sting go the way of johnny rotten??

            *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • ptbnl Oct 30,2020 1:19 pm || Up

          Who have you got?

          If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • Future Ed Future Ed Nov 2,2020 11:11 am || Up

      I don’t believe in jinxes. I have a prediction based on tinkering with the cook political report’s tool.

      Mine looks pretty big, will talk about it later

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 2,2020 11:53 am || Up

        Yes, any FKer who commented in any wild card games thread since 2014 can’t play the jinx card now.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • elcroata elcroata Nov 2,2020 1:15 pm || Up

        Yeah, it looks good, and I have hope and everything, but even if it’s true… 64 fucking million people will have voted for Trump. That’s more assholes than the total population of all but 20 countries in the world. That’s one percent of the total world’s population.

        All I can say about stats is SCOTT BROSIUS!!
        • sslinger Nov 2,2020 1:54 pm || Up

          Jeebus that’s disturbing when you put it that way.

        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 2,2020 2:25 pm || Up
          • elcroata elcroata Nov 2,2020 2:27 pm || Up

            Not a single of ten most common male names prefers Biden.

            Anyway you slice it, this is a persistent problem, that will not go away even with a resounding election victory.

            All I can say about stats is SCOTT BROSIUS!!
            • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 2,2020 2:41 pm || Up

              American men are not OK, and won’t be for a while I suspect.

              • elcroata elcroata Nov 2,2020 2:43 pm || Up

                Well, what can I say – I’m glad I got to know you guys.

                All I can say about stats is SCOTT BROSIUS!!
              • Future Ed Future Ed Nov 2,2020 3:23 pm || Up

                There isn’t a group of more victim complexed people than American men, yesterday while sitting about a block from GM’s house I had a very liberal man explain to me why the USPS is the worst

                I have $5. No I don\'t.
              • ptbnl Nov 2,2020 6:50 pm || Up

                There should probably be a “white” in there.

                If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  10. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 29,2020 6:26 pm

    Rabbitholed hard on this channel. Think this one is my fave. Or maybe this one.

    • AV AV Oct 29,2020 7:36 pm || Up

      it’s like a z-trip set but with adobe premier.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • sslinger Oct 30,2020 12:40 am || Up

        Those are cool – I haven’t been through a lot more years but one that I did like was 1986. And AV, loved the z-trip follow-up. Which brings me back to Umphrey’s McGee, who Soaker brought up as electronica and I tried to counter that. What I failed to mention was that at one point they were known for their mashups, and these reminded me of them. Here’s one of Their Best, and I’ve been lucky enough to see them do it live.

        • AV AV Oct 30,2020 12:48 pm || Up

          i respect their effort but that music does not have my tastes in mind!

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 30,2020 12:58 pm || Up

        In part 2 he actually made me like Rush for a hot minute.

        • AV AV Oct 30,2020 1:15 pm || Up

          they used his remix of tom sawyer in small soldiers. not worth seeking out because it goes on longer than that hot minute.

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
          • sslinger Oct 31,2020 11:06 pm || Up

            I get that – know your audience! Not that I’ll probably ever sway you, but this Lemmy & Ween one or this with Rage & Beasties might have been better bait for you. Whatever, it’s been fun for me to go back to some of these mashups, and to realize that while they used to be something UM was known for I think after putting out Zonkey, the mashup album, they’ve pretty much stopped doing them.

            • AV AV Nov 2,2020 11:28 am || Up

              those are definitely more enjoyable.

              for me, the whole concept of mashups is a 1-time-pony. sure, i’ll chuckle. but am i ever going back to that song for either a good dance or a second chuckle? not likely. probably why they work when you see them live. and maybe why the band moved on.

              *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
              • sslinger Nov 2,2020 1:56 pm || Up

                Definitely what makes them more fun when they pop up in the middle of a show.

  11. Future Ed Future Ed Oct 29,2020 8:32 pm

    Anyone know how to buy something from mexico when they will only ship to latin america?

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 30,2020 8:38 am || Up

      This sounds like a question you should only ask under attorney-client privilege.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  12. Future Ed Future Ed Oct 30,2020 9:25 am
    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  13. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 30,2020 11:01 am

    “Gang violence, kids shooting kids, people shooting up a home — I don’t hear some of these athletes speaking up about that. I feel like their voices would go so much farther on those topics,” Mulder said.

    Sounds a little racist TBH Mark.

    • Future Ed Future Ed Oct 30,2020 11:11 am || Up

      Yeah, people that complain about being called racist because of their opinions…

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 30,2020 11:12 am || Up

      Looking at his Twitter feed, it is nonstop far-right Trumpist propaganda, COVID truthering, and talking about how awful California is. But he’s the victim when A’s fans yell at him online.

      • Future Ed Future Ed Oct 30,2020 11:14 am || Up

        why do A’s fans care about a former cardinal and angel?

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • mikeA Oct 30,2020 11:14 am || Up

        He can go on GG’s new podcast to talk about A’s fans censoring him.

  14. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 30,2020 12:05 pm
  15. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 30,2020 2:54 pm

    I like this way of framing both the Conways: “A grifter always recognizes when the jig is up, after all, like a rat fleeing a sinking ship.”

    I did not know they were introduced by Ann Coulter, and that George was instrumental to the Linda Tripp and Paula Jones stories.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • AV AV Oct 30,2020 3:43 pm || Up

      knew the first part. also, AC’s a total deadhead.

      (kellyanne’s only musical link is cover model for iron maiden.)

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  16. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 31,2020 7:25 am

    Don’t let the demure Times prose and sober detail fool you, this horrifying story kept me awake all night.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 31,2020 11:29 am || Up

      Weird piece. The first third is a fairly standard (albeit with some crazy new details like the flagpole guy) Trump’s an idiot who can’t be educated or reined in story. It seems to mostly be Mattis/Kelly stuff, and a lot of it is about how Trump wouldn’t listen to them about troop withdrawals. The second third is about how he is now surrounded by people like Barr and has people like Ron Johnson pulling shit for him in Congress, but the subtext there is that it mostly been a flop for him politically. Then we get kind of a tabletop exercise of vague bad stuff that right wing nuts might do, encouraged by Trump, with the idea being that somehow they will be able to prevent enough states from certifying results to throw the election to the House.

      I dunno. My take is that Trump is a total piece of shit and a wounded animal who is capable of trying almost anything if he thinks it might keep him in power, but that his ability to actually do any of it at this point is pretty limited. The worst-case scenario stuff is something that it is good for officials (some of whom are, I’m guessing, top FBI types) to game out, but that have a pretty low probability of spiraling out of control in the way Trump might enjoy. The corollary of Trump now being surrounded by loyalists and yes men is that he is fundamentally quite isolated within the federal administrative and law enforcement bureaucracy, let alone the states and cities where the voting and counting happens.

      Bottom line, I’m very worried about Trump’s capacity for doing damage to the country on the way out if he loses, and I think we are going to be dealing with the rise of Trumpian right wing violence for years, but the more lurid versions of this that imply some sort of brownshirt coup aren’t realistic enough to stress me out further.

      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 31,2020 11:33 am || Up
        • elcroata elcroata Oct 31,2020 1:24 pm || Up

          Holy FK – this all will not end well

          All I can say about stats is SCOTT BROSIUS!!
        • AV AV Oct 31,2020 3:21 pm || Up

          a campaign 4 days out doesn’t warrant secret service protection?

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
          • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 31,2020 3:25 pm || Up

            Presumably neither Biden nor Harris was in that bus.

        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 31,2020 6:32 pm || Up

          Um.

          • AV AV Oct 31,2020 6:41 pm || Up

            don’t worry. i’m sure the president will tamp down the fever and take care of the local party reps.

            *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
            • Future Ed Future Ed Oct 31,2020 7:58 pm || Up

              There has to be a bottom at some point

              I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • Future Ed Future Ed Oct 31,2020 7:32 pm || Up

            Those guys in the trucks and the police are what I am afraid of.

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 31,2020 2:23 pm || Up

        Now this is just embarrassing.

      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 31,2020 4:10 pm || Up

        Trump will declare victory 11/4 despite the tally, then baiting his mob into action seems likely. How widespread, and how much it escalates are unknown, but the fact that these ostensibly serious powerful men are worried definitely rattled me (more).

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  17. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 31,2020 1:02 pm

    He monologues like a Bond villain.

    • AV AV Oct 31,2020 3:30 pm || Up

      WELL TODAY BOND VILLAINS WON.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  18. elcroata elcroata Oct 31,2020 3:32 pm

    All I can say about stats is SCOTT BROSIUS!!
    • andeux andeux Oct 31,2020 3:36 pm || Up

      Yeah, that story is crazy. Just completely brazen.

      TINSTAAFK
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 1,2020 11:06 am || Up

        I think there are still five votes on the Supreme Court to kill this suit, but only because the challenge is coming after so many people actually voted using this process.

        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 2,2020 12:44 pm || Up

          District judge tossed it for lack of standing and on the merits (for the already cast votes anyway).

          • Future Ed Future Ed Nov 2,2020 1:17 pm || Up

            5th can’t hear it tonight to shut down the vote by tomorrow one would think.

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
            • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 2,2020 2:31 pm || Up

              I wouldn’t put anything past that court but yeah timing seems tough.

            • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 2,2020 7:53 pm || Up

              Totally ridiculous to be filing an appeal at almost 10 pm the night before Election Day to shut down a voting method that starts the next morning. Lawyers who would file something like that are scumbags.

              • Future Ed Future Ed Nov 2,2020 8:51 pm || Up

                Looks like Harris county is keeping the built out structure for tomorrow and closing the tents. The injunction is question is moot

                I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • Future Ed Future Ed Nov 2,2020 9:45 pm || Up

                  Cert denied anyway

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 2,2020 9:49 pm || Up

                  So some number of voters gets successfully thwarted through the losing, meritless suit which cost the GOP basically nothing.

                  "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
                • Future Ed Future Ed Nov 2,2020 9:54 pm || Up

                  could be the difference in the senate.

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
  19. elcroata elcroata Oct 31,2020 3:40 pm

    Oh, glory days…

    All I can say about stats is SCOTT BROSIUS!!
  20. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 1,2020 10:42 am

    Sam Fuld!

  21. AV AV Nov 1,2020 11:19 am
    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  22. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 1,2020 12:06 pm

    Vince and Shooty living their best lives.

  23. andeux andeux Nov 1,2020 2:00 pm

    TINSTAAFK
    • Future Ed Future Ed Nov 1,2020 2:27 pm || Up

      Before hand and wong were declined, non tendered, I though at least one would get one, but after its clear there is some kind of collusion that is suppressing the market

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 1,2020 3:55 pm || Up
        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 1,2020 4:46 pm || Up

        They must really think the fix is in to not offer Hendriks. He should be guaranteed a big contract somewhere.

        • andeux andeux Nov 1,2020 4:50 pm || Up

          Once the Clevelands declined Hands’ option at $10M (really $9M, excluding the buyout), there was no way we were going to give Hendriks twice that.

          TINSTAAFK
  24. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 1,2020 6:52 pm

    He’s really afraid of getting the Mussolini/Ceacescu treatment, isn’t he.

    • ptbnl Nov 1,2020 7:16 pm || Up

      Hitler retreating to the bunker

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 1,2020 7:31 pm || Up

      I expect other federal properties will also suddenly discover they need National Guard reinforcements.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  25. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 1,2020 9:39 pm

    Normal stuff

  26. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 2,2020 8:39 am

    According to this site (can’t vouch for how credible it is), MLB’s current plan calls for Fresno to move from the PCL to the Cal League, which would become Low A ball. The Midwest and Northwest Leagues would move up to High A.

    • Future Ed Future Ed Nov 2,2020 10:07 am || Up

      makes sense given the airport situation (no offense Ace and WAC). But population amenities and history wise, I don’t know

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • 5Aces 5Aces Nov 2,2020 11:26 am || Up

        None taken. I think it is a very nice airport-it just needs direct flights going to a few more MLB cities-which it cannot get.

        History wise it makes sense. Fresno was always a Cal league city (we will exempt the half season in like 1908 of the Raisin eaters from this..). Population wise it doesnt make a lot of sense, but those people also arent always the best at coming out to the game so what are you gonna do?

        I do wonder what that does to the ownership group and the existence of the franchise. Related-I think it is crap that there isnt any double-A ball on this side of the country and that should be fixed.

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • Soaker Soaker Nov 2,2020 11:17 am || Up

      Whoever owns the Fresno Grizzlies bought a AAA franchise. No way it’s as simple as “we’re redesignating your franchise as Low-A”. The team’s ballpark lease with the City of Fresno would also be based on the assumption that the team is in AAA. So that proposal has to amount to contracting the Fresno franchise out of existence with financial consideration both to the Grizzlies’ ownership and the City.

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      • 5Aces 5Aces Nov 2,2020 2:04 pm || Up

        I wonder how things have changed since the time that MiLB tried to buy out Bing Russell and the Portland Mavericks.

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  27. ptbnl Nov 2,2020 9:02 am

    The “just having a bit of fun” line is so revolting … every high school bully’s defense.

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  28. Future Ed Future Ed Nov 2,2020 10:23 am

    Totally normal

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • AV AV Nov 2,2020 11:38 am || Up

      GAH.

      not the blocking. (i give that an ASSHOLES.)

      but a perfectly capable media outlet *still* illustrating stories about CA yesterday with a photo taken in FLA a year ago. “oh but we captioned it.” yeah, after the click through, if you even look at the caption.

      journalism has every tool to get things right *and* be convincing. and yet.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 2,2020 11:43 am || Up

        Is Raw Story a capable media outlet? I have no information either way, but they come off as a little sketchy to me.

        • AV AV Nov 2,2020 12:30 pm || Up

          capable in the sense of able to source an image and pay for it.

          even if they’re a click-bait business aimed at left bias.

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • Future Ed Future Ed Nov 2,2020 12:03 pm || Up

        Also, HEADLINE: SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, BODY: Riverside

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 2,2020 11:56 am || Up

      I believe the preferred term is Vanilla Isis.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  29. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 2,2020 2:13 pm

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 2,2020 2:26 pm || Up

      JBJ hasn’t been this relevant in years!

      • andeux andeux Nov 2,2020 3:02 pm || Up

        Fun fact: Bon Jovi and Trump were both among the bidders to buy the Buffalo Bills in 2014.
        (Does not contradict what you said.)

        TINSTAAFK
        • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 2,2020 3:30 pm || Up

          There’s a rollicking good GQ article from a few years ago about this saga. A key player was Michael Caputo, better known of late for batshit insanity even by today’s standards.

          https://www.gq.com/story/donald-trump-shady-scheme-to-buy-nfl-buffalo-bills

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  30. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 2,2020 9:12 pm

    It’s in the bag! Biden with a clean sweep of Dixville Notch, 5 to 0!

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Future Ed Future Ed Nov 2,2020 9:19 pm || Up

      538-0 was my estimate earlier

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  31. Future Ed Future Ed Nov 2,2020 9:54 pm

    steph curry in a lincoln project ad is something.

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  32. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 2,2020 9:54 pm

    Good I needed a chuckle

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  33. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 3,2020 7:59 am

    Ok, I’m going with science not fear and predicting a Too Big to Rig landslide for Biden. By noon PST tomorrow, the Electoral Vote totals from “called” races will be:

    Biden 317
    Trump 184
    Undecided 37

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Soaker Soaker Nov 3,2020 11:49 am || Up

      Seems reasonable at the Presidential level. A lot of results are going to have to wait because of the rules about counting mailed ballots. Nevada’s law is: if the date on the postmark is legible, a ballot mailed today can be counted if received as late as next Tuesday; if the date is illegible, the ballot is assumed to have been mailed today if it’s received by Friday. Realistically on close races there’s going to be doubt for 48 hours or so as to how many ballots are still in the hands of USPS. I don’t see that affecting Trump-Biden that much, but local things like State Assembly and Senate will be up in the air.

      There’s a *possibility* that Nevada’s Democrats will have 2/3 supermajorities in both the Assembly and Senate, as well as the governorship, which would at least help fend off the consequences of a Trump re-election and/or continued GOP control of the US Senate for the next couple years.

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  34. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 3,2020 8:03 am

    Objective, insightful thread here on America’s political geography at the end of the Trump term. The future is the GOP finally adapting to the changed country or (more likely) digging in behind the court majorities it traded the country for.

  35. andeux andeux Nov 3,2020 9:08 am

    It’s finally here, the day we’ve all been waiting for … Happy NFL trade deadline everyone.

    TINSTAAFK
  36. batgirl batgirl Nov 3,2020 9:22 am

    Fun fact I learned text banking: Jenny is a whore’s name!

    • Future Ed Future Ed Nov 3,2020 9:46 am || Up

      Jennybel?

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • AV AV Nov 3,2020 10:32 am || Up

      what’s your text banking snide comment-back ratio? i wrote many, only sent one. if i were banking today i’d send them all (since it’s not like you can get fired on your last day on the job).

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • batgirl batgirl Nov 3,2020 11:14 am || Up

        I’ve never sent one!! I’ve thought about it though, for a few. What cracks me up is when they send something really nasty, and I reply “Thanks for letting me know, have a great day” and then they reply something like “You have a blessed day too!”

        • AV AV Nov 3,2020 11:19 am || Up

          i wonder if they think it’s a bot that first time and that nobody will read whatever nastiness they send. but then they find out it’s a human and that you have their phone number.

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • Future Ed Future Ed Nov 3,2020 12:31 pm || Up

          one time Pam from here texted me from a campaign number, “Hi This is Pam with Warren for america, Can you blah blah blah”

          I texted back something that I had already told her personally to try to figure out if it was our pam. She texted me from her real phone after that. It was fun

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • batgirl batgirl Nov 3,2020 12:57 pm || Up

            That is hilarious!

          • AV AV Nov 3,2020 3:35 pm || Up

            i saw her on a training video for vote save america.

            *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
          • batgirl batgirl Nov 4,2020 7:14 am || Up

            I *may* have text banked Terrell Davis in Georgia yesterday. He asked to be opted out.

  37. lenscrafters Nov 3,2020 9:22 am

    Hope everyone is doing ok. Currently, I am feeling the same type of nerves as I would if I knew there was an A’s playoff game later in the day.

    • Soaker Soaker Nov 3,2020 9:44 am || Up

      My thought is to block anything from Twitter for the next 24 hours. This will likely be the greatest day of distortion, exaggeration and disinformation since Mr. Gore invented the Internet.

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      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 3,2020 12:38 pm || Up

        I’m cautiously hopeful that things will be more definitive early than many expect, and that the tales of distortion will seem (more) ridiculous in the face of a Democratic tide.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • andeux andeux Nov 3,2020 12:46 pm || Up

          As one of you said the other day, if Biden wins Florida it is probably over.
          But how many election days have we all sat around hoping for good news from Florida and been disappointed?

          TINSTAAFK
          • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 3,2020 1:14 pm || Up

            If Florida was our only hope I’d be really terrified; other paths like GA, rust belt, and even OH or TX are credible enough that I haven’t yet opened the whiskey bottle yet today.

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
            • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 3,2020 1:18 pm || Up

              North Carolina for the win.

              • Soaker Soaker Nov 3,2020 1:20 pm || Up

                I’d have to look back at the thread but IIRC Hillary’s early collapse in North Carolina was the first thing that sent you into the panic 4 years ago.

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                • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 3,2020 1:28 pm || Up

                  Could be. That plus Virginia being too close plus the Florida panhandle coming in huge all blur together and I don’t really care to revisit it at the moment.

                • Soaker Soaker Nov 3,2020 1:46 pm || Up

                  There’s definitely too much unqualified optimism/overconfidence early in that 2016 thread. It then turns on a dime.

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                • Future Ed Future Ed Nov 3,2020 4:23 pm || Up

                  was trying to remember, I got a sinking feeling after knowing KNOWING fla was gonna turn blue and it wasn’t called. It might have been NC or the no result in VA that made me turn away

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • andeux andeux Nov 3,2020 4:25 pm || Up

                  Yeah, I don’t remember the specifics either, just feeling confident early in the day, results started coming in at 4 or 5, already nervous by 5:30, feeling physically ill by 7.

                  TINSTAAFK
            • andeux andeux Nov 3,2020 1:25 pm || Up

              It’s not the only, or even best hope, but is the main way things would be definitive early.

              TINSTAAFK
            • Soaker Soaker Nov 3,2020 1:29 pm || Up

              I have very little alcohol in the house. We have two more days of nice fall weather forecast before winter hits on Friday, and I want to be able to do 25 miles of stomping off frustration and anger in the mountains tomorrow.

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              • ptbnl Nov 3,2020 2:06 pm || Up

                I have a 2015 bottle of The Bruery’s “Black Tuesday” … 750ml of appropriately-named 20% Russian Imperial Stout should get me through the first wave at least.

                If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
            • mikeA Nov 3,2020 3:03 pm || Up

              I have heard good things about GA today.

              • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 3,2020 3:12 pm || Up

                After the outrageous voter suppression there in 2018 the locals spent two very serious years preparing for today.

                "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  38. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 3,2020 12:33 pm

    Yes but how many heads were on the beast you were riding? If it’s fewer than seven it’s hardly an insult at all.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  39. Soaker Soaker Nov 3,2020 1:56 pm

    Results from deep-red Douglas County in 2016:
    Trump 62.45
    Clinton 30.32
    Third parties 4.17
    NOTA 3.06

    Soaker’s 2020 prediction:
    Trump 57.5
    Biden 32.5
    Third parties 4
    NOTA 6

    Fun fact of the day: For the first time one of my fellow voters is Helen Mirren. She doesn’t mention her vote for President in that, but she supports Patricia Ackerman who is the Democrat who will lose to Mark Amodei in the Nevada 2nd. She must live up in Glenbrook which is the ultra-exclusive gated community.

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    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 3,2020 2:22 pm || Up

      Seems weird that NOTA would go up in a year without a senate or governor race on the ballot to draw out Republicans who refuse to make a presidential choice. Are there some big local races they’ll come out for?

      • Soaker Soaker Nov 3,2020 2:33 pm || Up

        My thought is that some moderate Republicans and some independents who took a chance on Trump in 2016 because he couldn’t be worse than Hillary Clinton won’t vote for Trump this time. So I added 2 percent to Biden and 3 percent to NOTA.

        There’s nothing of any consequence on our ballot other than Trump-Biden. I don’t think I saw a single ad for any of the statewide Questions. The mildly interesting one, which is still a techniciality like the others though, would replace this in our state Constitution

        Only a marriage between a male and female person shall be recognized and given effect in this state.

        with this:

        1. The State of Nevada and its political subdivisions shall recognize marriages and issue marriage licenses to couples regardless of gender.

        2. Religious organizations and members of the clergy have the right to refuse to solemnize a marriage, and no person has the right to make any claim against a religious organization or member of the clergy for such a refusal.

        3. All legally valid marriages must be treated equally under the law.

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  40. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 3,2020 2:29 pm

    That time every two years when I remember how messed up it is that Indiana and Kentucky close polls at 6 pm local.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 3,2020 3:13 pm || Up

      It’s too much to hope for McConnell to go down. Makes me wish George Soros was a powerful as they say.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  41. ptbnl Nov 4,2020 2:25 pm

    LOL Man Utd “defending”

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • AV AV Nov 4,2020 3:06 pm || Up

      what am i failing to understand about offsides??

      if everybody’s on home-half of field or something?

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • ptbnl Nov 4,2020 4:21 pm || Up

        Yup, you can’t be offside in your own half. The picture in that thread is hilarious … the deepest United defender is half way into the other half.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • Future Ed Future Ed Nov 4,2020 5:21 pm || Up

      Somebody had a lot of money on first goal

      I have $5. No I don\'t.

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