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DS Game 4: No clever title; just FKing win 178

Montas leads the A’s against the *. Really need him to get past 5 today. LaStella is in the lineup.

178 thoughts on “DS Game 4: No clever title; just FKing win

  1. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 8,2020 12:25 pm

    I don’t care if it’s cliche, La Stella is a fucking gamer.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Future Ed Future Ed Oct 8,2020 12:31 pm || Up

      Tough not to call it gritty. (I am in the “don’t sign camp though, I think he has given away a couple of DPs with a weak arm, and some outs with poor range. I am fine with Pinder/kemp/machin platoonish with simmons/semien/ someone? korean guy? lindor? at short)

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • nevermoor nevermoor Oct 8,2020 12:59 pm || Up

        Depends on cost, and on Chapman’s recovery IMO

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  2. batgirl batgirl Oct 8,2020 12:30 pm

    Super excited. Let’s do this thing!

  3. Future Ed Future Ed Oct 8,2020 12:37 pm

    Ray’s keys to the game “winning” Good start, then he fosse’s it up

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  4. andeux andeux Oct 8,2020 12:38 pm

    Greinke’s first few fastballs 87-88.

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    • andeux andeux Oct 8,2020 12:43 pm || Up

      And that’s almost all he’s thrown so far. He’s basically late-model Bartolo Colon.

      TINSTAAFK
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 8,2020 12:52 pm || Up

        He shook off to the fastball a few times also. Will be interesting to see what else he has.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 8,2020 12:50 pm || Up

      Meanwhile Frankie is dialing it up to 100.

    • lenscrafters Oct 8,2020 12:50 pm || Up

      And on the other side, a couple of 100s for Frankie.

  5. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 8,2020 12:50 pm

    Nice start for Frankie.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  6. Soaker Soaker Oct 8,2020 12:51 pm

    I mostly like Orsillo but the A’s pitcher is not “Frankie Moan Toes”. Francoeur has it right and should set him straight between innings.

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    • Future Ed Future Ed Oct 8,2020 12:54 pm || Up

      Steiner and monday said wendle KEN

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    • andeux andeux Oct 8,2020 12:56 pm || Up

      They’ve seemed pretty good in general. Big improvement over Jessica Mendoza phoning it in.

      TINSTAAFK
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 8,2020 12:59 pm || Up

        I think there’s also something about ESPN’s production style that just grates in a way TBS’s doesn’t. I can’t put my finger on it.

        • nevermoor nevermoor Oct 8,2020 1:03 pm || Up

          TBS knows how to do minimal production because of years with the Braves. ESPN puts all the NFL-esque text everywhere. And the unforgivable during-play interviews.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 8,2020 1:20 pm || Up

            Also they talk about the game they are calling, instead of the Yankees game they wish they were calling.

  7. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 8,2020 12:54 pm

    Someone is definitely going to lose a fly ball in the sun this series. Springer the number 1 candidate.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Future Ed Future Ed Oct 8,2020 12:56 pm || Up

      he already lost one, it didn’t matter

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • 5Aces 5Aces Oct 8,2020 12:57 pm || Up

      If we can force them to quickly sign and play Josh Hamilton I would be delighted.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
      • andeux andeux Oct 8,2020 12:59 pm || Up

        Are the Angels still picking up his salary?

        TINSTAAFK
    • nevermoor nevermoor Oct 8,2020 1:01 pm || Up

      That’ll do. Especially since we get a run on a pasta-dive single.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  8. Future Ed Future Ed Oct 8,2020 1:01 pm

    Thank you ramon

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  9. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 8,2020 1:01 pm

    Ramon smash!

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  10. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 8,2020 1:02 pm

    Nice of Grienke to tell Ramon that hanger was coming.

  11. andeux andeux Oct 8,2020 1:02 pm

    Well, there was a mistake that we could drive.

    8th A to homer in the post-season (every spot except Grossman/Piscotty).

    TINSTAAFK
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 8,2020 1:04 pm || Up

      And of course you’d need both guys to go yard to make it 10 and bat around.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Future Ed Future Ed Oct 8,2020 1:07 pm || Up

        hmm, let’s get to that argument

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  12. 5Aces 5Aces Oct 8,2020 1:03 pm

    Was that an Earthquake?

    No, it’s Ramon!

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  13. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 8,2020 1:04 pm

    Has anyone asked Grienke to explain why he has been signaling the catcher what he is going to throw? Or asked Dusty why he lets him?

    • andeux andeux Oct 8,2020 1:06 pm || Up

      Trying to make it fair for both teams.

      TINSTAAFK
      • nevermoor nevermoor Oct 8,2020 1:09 pm || Up

        It’s a long-play towards a Rookie of the Year inning

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 8,2020 1:11 pm || Up

        Would be fun to see what would happen if a pitcher told the hitters what was coming every pitch, but lied a quarter of the time.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 8,2020 1:12 pm || Up

          I feel like analytics departments would find a pattern in when he lied over time unless he carried a random number generator with him or something.

      • 5Aces 5Aces Oct 8,2020 1:19 pm || Up

        Here it comes. Old #1, the Terminator.

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  14. mikeA Oct 8,2020 1:10 pm

    50th birthday today for Olmedo Saenz = yikes

  15. Future Ed Future Ed Oct 8,2020 1:13 pm

    Thank you frankie

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  16. lenscrafters Oct 8,2020 1:15 pm

    Have a meeting in 15 min, if the A’s would kindly score more runs to put my mind at ease before then, that would be lovely.

  17. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 8,2020 1:16 pm

    Is Melvin doing his interviews between innings, while Dusty does his live during the action?

  18. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 8,2020 1:17 pm

    Grienke is not fooling anyone.

  19. Future Ed Future Ed Oct 8,2020 1:17 pm

    If you come for the Sluss, best be right

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • ptbnl Oct 8,2020 1:21 pm || Up

      Technically he’s coming for the reporter she’s citing.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • Soaker Soaker Oct 8,2020 1:26 pm || Up

      Isn’t it adding and subtracting? I think Greinke threw a slider, not a curveball, after he held up two fingers, which suggests Maldonado called for a fastball. Stew is nodding and approving.

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      • andeux andeux Oct 8,2020 1:28 pm || Up

        That’s what a bunch of other people on twitter were saying. Not sure why Slusser was being so insistent.

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  20. andeux andeux Oct 8,2020 1:18 pm

    After all the quick hooks we’ve seen, it’s hard to believe Greinke is still out there. He just doesn’t seem to have much.
    (Damn, lucky DP there)

    TINSTAAFK
    • Future Ed Future Ed Oct 8,2020 1:18 pm || Up

      he has to go three, remember?

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • nevermoor nevermoor Oct 8,2020 1:19 pm || Up

      Yeah. Hard to call it a TOOTBLAN. Just tough luck on an aggressive secondary lead.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 8,2020 1:23 pm || Up

        At risk of more cliches, that’s why little league coach taught you to freeze until you see the line drive clear the infield.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  21. lenscrafters Oct 8,2020 1:25 pm

    Ugh, that can’t fucking happen. Where was Canha?

  22. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 8,2020 1:25 pm

    Argh. Yell louder Canha.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • sslinger Oct 8,2020 1:29 pm || Up

      Yeah, I know Oly is gold glover and all but Canha had to call him off of that one.

      • nevermoor nevermoor Oct 8,2020 1:30 pm || Up

        Routine effort pop out to RF, and Canha’s just jogging slowly and watching Oly. Very bad work.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • nevermoor nevermoor Oct 8,2020 1:29 pm || Up

      Or, you know, at all.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  23. Future Ed Future Ed Oct 8,2020 1:25 pm

    ack

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  24. Future Ed Future Ed Oct 8,2020 1:29 pm

    this at bat is killing me

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  25. batgirl batgirl Oct 8,2020 1:30 pm

    I noticed last night that Pence is also “the reality is…” guy.

    • nevermoor nevermoor Oct 8,2020 1:33 pm || Up

      He’s not entitled to his own facts either.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 8,2020 1:33 pm || Up

      Ironic, given his team’s tenuous relationship with reality.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 8,2020 1:34 pm || Up

      A Pence administration would be the longest Vince Inning of our lives.

      • nevermoor nevermoor Oct 8,2020 1:35 pm || Up

        My #1 fear is that Trump gives up, Pence subs in, and the entire media decides he’s the compromise candidate.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 8,2020 1:37 pm || Up

          Way too late for that now. Maybe if the Senate had removed Trump in January and Pence contained COVID and didn’t do a Ford Pardons Nixon.

          • nevermoor nevermoor Oct 8,2020 1:39 pm || Up

            If it’s too late, its only because of early voting.

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • Future Ed Future Ed Oct 8,2020 1:36 pm || Up

        I l’d out l

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  26. Future Ed Future Ed Oct 8,2020 1:31 pm

    frankie has two bases to strike someone out

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • nevermoor nevermoor Oct 8,2020 1:33 pm || Up

      Who needs ’em. Man it’s nice to get a couple good innings out of a SP.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  27. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 8,2020 1:31 pm

    That was a hella funky pitch to K Maldonado. Maybe a cutter? Ran in like a screwball.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 8,2020 1:32 pm || Up

      Right? Crazy movement. His ball is super lively today.

      • andeux andeux Oct 8,2020 1:33 pm || Up

        Last two pitches to Springer were also pretty.

        TINSTAAFK
  28. 5Aces 5Aces Oct 8,2020 1:32 pm

    Frankie Magic!

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  29. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 8,2020 1:33 pm

    That’s how you overcome an error, JB.

    • 5Aces 5Aces Oct 8,2020 1:37 pm || Up

      Fosse is reading FK between innings and just stole this.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  30. Future Ed Future Ed Oct 8,2020 1:38 pm

    Good at bat khris. Get em next time

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  31. nevermoor nevermoor Oct 8,2020 1:40 pm

    Dammit Josh.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  32. Future Ed Future Ed Oct 8,2020 1:43 pm

    Meh, get em next inning

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  33. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 8,2020 1:43 pm

    Olson’s ball was 10 rows deep yesterday. Definitely not flying out the way it has been. That’s good, probably.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 8,2020 1:44 pm || Up

      It’s like the shadows. Good for the team that’s ahead.

    • nevermoor nevermoor Oct 8,2020 1:44 pm || Up

      Yeah. Off the bat it didn’t look even remotely robbable

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • 5Aces 5Aces Oct 8,2020 1:45 pm || Up

      Decent cool down today. I havent had to turn on the fan yet.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  34. mother pucker Oct 8,2020 1:45 pm

    Catching the ball over a 3 foot wall. Nice job, Josh.

    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 8,2020 1:49 pm || Up

      Would have given anything for it to slip out of his glove while his arm was hanging over the wall.

  35. Future Ed Future Ed Oct 8,2020 1:48 pm

    he took that like he knew what was coming

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • mother pucker Oct 8,2020 1:50 pm || Up

      To not even hesitate on that nasty 2-2 slider sure takes some great discipline.

  36. Future Ed Future Ed Oct 8,2020 1:51 pm

    Good thing he didn’t walk brantly

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  37. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 8,2020 1:51 pm

    Drat. Missed location finally bit him

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  38. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 8,2020 1:53 pm

    How many bloops just over LaStella’s glove in this series?

  39. Future Ed Future Ed Oct 8,2020 1:53 pm

    I am more convinced a full year of lastella is money spent better other places

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  40. nevermoor nevermoor Oct 8,2020 1:55 pm

    Man. When the Astros get rolling, they GET ROLLING.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • ptbnl Oct 8,2020 1:58 pm || Up

      Maybe their cunning plan to avoid detection is only stealing signs in certain innings.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  41. lenscrafters Oct 8,2020 1:58 pm

    How pathetic has our starting pitching been.

  42. nevermoor nevermoor Oct 8,2020 1:58 pm

    Fiddlesticks.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  43. Future Ed Future Ed Oct 8,2020 2:00 pm

    two bombs and 3 flares and a walk

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  44. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 8,2020 2:04 pm

    Losing to a dickhead like Correa really irks.

  45. Future Ed Future Ed Oct 8,2020 2:08 pm

    right where we want them

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  46. 5Aces 5Aces Oct 8,2020 2:09 pm

    I guess I didnt think 3 would do it anyways.

    Montas sure seems like he should become a great 2 or so inning relief pitcher. He just turns into a pumpkin so damn quick.

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • Future Ed Future Ed Oct 8,2020 2:13 pm || Up

      4 won’t do it either.

      I will not be satisfied before 11

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  47. lenscrafters Oct 8,2020 2:13 pm

    Ramon not letting us die.

    • nevermoor nevermoor Oct 8,2020 2:14 pm || Up

      Yep. He’s having an OK day.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  48. 5Aces 5Aces Oct 8,2020 2:18 pm

    I feel bad for the radio crew. I know they need to make the content relatable but there are almost no memories I want to relive of playoff series.

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • Soaker Soaker Oct 8,2020 2:26 pm || Up

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      • 5Aces 5Aces Oct 8,2020 2:28 pm || Up

        Almost.

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
        • Soaker Soaker Oct 8,2020 2:32 pm || Up

          Well, fine then.

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  49. 5Aces 5Aces Oct 8,2020 2:28 pm

    They love J.B. Me not so much. Hopefully the 2:30 meeting works again.

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  50. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 8,2020 2:32 pm

    Melvin not making the pitching changes, weird.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Soaker Soaker Oct 8,2020 2:35 pm || Up

      That would usually only happen if Bob were hurt, like took the stairs instead of the elevator at the hotel and pulled a hammy.

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      • Soaker Soaker Oct 8,2020 2:44 pm || Up

        I have never understood why that is, either; it seems like a pointless “unwritten rule”. The pitching coach spends all his time with the pitchers and catchers and runs the pregame meeting. Unless there’s some specific strategy thing the manager wants to discuss with the infielders at the same time he’s making the pitching change, it makes sense to me for the pitching coach to be the one who reinforces some point with the relief pitcher.

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        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 8,2020 2:48 pm || Up

          It has to be based in the idea that pulling a pitcher mid-inning was a bit of an insult back in the old days. Therefore the manager should be the one delivering the insult.

          • andeux andeux Oct 8,2020 3:12 pm || Up

            Maybe they just want to get a little more work out of Emerson before they fire him.

            TINSTAAFK
  51. nevermoor nevermoor Oct 8,2020 2:37 pm

    FK FK FK FK FK

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  52. Soaker Soaker Oct 8,2020 2:38 pm

    Oh dear. She’s leakin’ an awful lot of oil.

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  53. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 8,2020 2:38 pm

    I like how Pinder was thinking triple play.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • nevermoor nevermoor Oct 8,2020 2:39 pm || Up

      Agree. Man I miss Chapman.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  54. nevermoor nevermoor Oct 8,2020 2:46 pm

    So how many more at bats does Laureano get?

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  55. 5Aces 5Aces Oct 8,2020 2:53 pm

    My negative mind. “We’re down 7-4 in the 6th. There is no way we could comeback from that. It has never happened before…”

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  56. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 8,2020 3:04 pm

    Where do we go to get a Michael Brantley?

    • 5Aces 5Aces Oct 8,2020 3:05 pm || Up

      Actually in a month or 2 I think you just call his agent.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 8,2020 3:08 pm || Up

      Just stop by old man Boras’s place, he’s got a bunch, but harvest the money tree first.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  57. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 8,2020 3:09 pm

    Soria obviously doesn’t have it today but what else are we gonna do?

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  58. Future Ed Future Ed Oct 8,2020 3:09 pm

    get em tomorrow

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  59. Soaker Soaker Oct 8,2020 3:15 pm

    They’re even out of teAses, aren’t they.

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    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 8,2020 3:25 pm || Up

      They were not.

      • nevermoor nevermoor Oct 8,2020 4:45 pm || Up

        That wasn’t a strike, either

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  60. andeux andeux Oct 8,2020 3:19 pm

    Cy Snead is available today, right?

    TINSTAAFK
  61. Future Ed Future Ed Oct 8,2020 3:23 pm

    vince. i hated it, but it was a good call

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  62. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 8,2020 3:23 pm

    Argh. Hard to interpret that Semien drive dying on the warning track as anything but the end.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  63. Future Ed Future Ed Oct 8,2020 3:27 pm

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  64. Soaker Soaker Oct 8,2020 3:34 pm

    They can go ahead and switch to the Yankees at the top of the hour.

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  65. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 8,2020 3:34 pm

    The clock is ticking down to my stupid work meeting. If the A’s manage to come back I will surely get fired for my inability to maintain a straight face on Zoom.

    Just kidding, I’m an unfireable public employee.

    This sucks.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • 5Aces 5Aces Oct 8,2020 3:37 pm || Up

      I went to my meeting, bit off the head of someone who only sort of deserved it, and decided that’s enough listening for this year. I’ve already started rosterbating. I hope I can laugh at myself in the next half hour or so but I really do need to get some work done.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  66. 5Aces 5Aces Oct 8,2020 3:35 pm

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  67. Future Ed Future Ed Oct 8,2020 3:39 pm

    “A’s down by 7 have a start”

    Good work ken

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  68. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 8,2020 3:41 pm

    Starting to wonder if this is fugly enough for Beane to do something drastic this offseason.

    • Future Ed Future Ed Oct 8,2020 3:47 pm || Up

      just need a2nd base person

      and a short stop

      and a closer

      and a set up guy

      and a starter

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    • Soaker Soaker Oct 8,2020 3:47 pm || Up

      The most frustrating thing is that the quality of the arms in the starting rotation did not seem to be reflected in the execution.

      With a new ballpark now all the way out to 2024 at best or even 2025 I wouldn’t rule much out.

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      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 8,2020 3:55 pm || Up

        Yeah, the stuff has seemed to be there for Luzardo, Montas, and even Manaea most of the time but either the game calling, the conditioning, or just the mental side of pitching has failed them. It’s troubling.

        • Future Ed Future Ed Oct 8,2020 3:56 pm || Up

          a season for murphy and heim should provide data to straighten that out, yeah?

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      • andeux andeux Oct 8,2020 3:57 pm || Up

        This was as optimistic as I had been about the starting rotation in a long time.
        Puk got hurt. That happens (not just to Oakland). It would have been surprising if someone in the rotation didn’t go down.
        Bassitt was mostly great. Manaea and Fiers gave us some good starts and some bad ones, probably what we should expect from them.
        But Montas and Luzardo, the ones I was most excited about, as great as they looked at times, just didn’t get the results.
        Maybe it’s the coaching. Maybe it’s the game calling, having such young starters paired with a trio of rookie catchers. Maybe expectations were just too high, and they’ll still put it together in another year. It’s tough to evaluate those things from the outside. But yeah, just a massive disappointment from the starting pitching, and even more so in the playoffs.

        TINSTAAFK
        • sslinger Oct 8,2020 4:04 pm || Up

          I agree with the assessment. Let’s also not forget what a strange year this has been, and I’m guessing the young guys were more affected by the isolation and focus they had to go through. If next year is a “normal” season, and we still have the same assessment of Montas & Luzardo, then it would be time to worry.

          • Soaker Soaker Oct 8,2020 4:05 pm || Up

            Montas was an emerging ace in June 2019. That has been the biggest setback. Luzardo’s minor league experience was so stop-and-start with the injuries, the struggles in his first year in the MLB rotation didn’t surprise me. He’s probably the only “untouchable” on the major league roster this winter.

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            • nevermoor nevermoor Oct 8,2020 4:49 pm || Up

              Honestly, our BP faceplant was more troubling to me in the playoffs (though not for next year). That was our defining strenghth, and everyone but Hendricks (and even him once) kept getting rocked.

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • 5Aces 5Aces Oct 8,2020 3:50 pm || Up

      The3 last time he blew things up he really seemed like he wanted to say this was the last time he is reloading. I dont know if he would walk away but it is starting to feel like the definition of insanity.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • lenscrafters Oct 8,2020 4:02 pm || Up

      It’s just so exhausting to think about. Even with Chapman and Olson at arb 1, most other teams with our situation would be looking for the final piece to push them over the top (like the * in 2017 with Verlander).

      Instead we’re wondering if Semien is even going to get a qualifying offer, who’s going to replace Liam (someone who the Yankees/Dodgers and some other teams would also likely give a QO to). Wondering if they can even afford a LaStella. Wondering if even at arb 1, Chapman/Olson is getting too rich for the billionaire owner to want to hold on to.

      Just so tired of this. I get it, we’re poor schmucks who should be eternally grateful that we even get to be the “just good enough” team the amount of times we have been. But it’s becoming clearer and clearer that this is all we’ll be under this type of ownership who will never be willing to take that last step to get into the upper echelon of teams that have combined both money and top tier baseball ops.

      • nevermoor nevermoor Oct 8,2020 4:51 pm || Up

        In fairness to them, they tried going for it with Lester too, and that failed.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • andeux andeux Oct 8,2020 5:00 pm || Up

          The Lester trade CUT payroll – Lester + Cespedes combined were making a bit more than Cespedes for 2014, but the Red Sox included some cash in the deal so that part was about a wash, and then we lost Cespedes (and his $10M salary) for the next year. We also lost the rare hitter whose approach had worked in the playoffs.

          TINSTAAFK
          • nevermoor nevermoor Oct 8,2020 5:04 pm || Up

            was that true plus Smardaskdjfa;lskdjf?

            I thought we took on a bunch (and shipped prospects for what we hoped would be go-for-it vets).

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • lenscrafters Oct 8,2020 5:15 pm || Up

            Yup. The point is that we had to kneecap ourselves to take that one shot. And it’s talent, not money, that gets sacrificed for it, whether it’s a MLB piece for a MLB piece like Lester-Cespedes or prospects for MLB piece (Samardzija), which of course set in motion the post 2014 BS transactions that tried to replenish said lost talent.

    • mother pucker Oct 8,2020 4:58 pm || Up

      Unless he can force the owner to sell the fucking team, I’m not sure anything really matters.

      Also, admittedly not as plugged in as I may have once been, but are there even prospects who could be moved if they wanted to “go for it”? Am I right in stating that each of the top picks during the last “rebuild” that amounted to Beck, Kyler, and Puk all seem to be pretty big misses (ranging from “understandable” in the case of Puk to totally fucking un-understandable in the case of Murray)?

      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 8,2020 5:02 pm || Up

        Robert Puason would spark interest, but he is very young — no minor league experience yet to speak of. Ditto this year’s first rounder, the catcher Tyler Soderstrom. The shortstops Nick Allen and Logan Davidson would be tradeable pieces, but probably not as the main piece of a package for someone serious. That’s pretty much it.

  69. Future Ed Future Ed Oct 8,2020 3:55 pm

    If you told me the A’s scored 20 runs in 4 games, I would assume at least there would be a game 5

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • andeux andeux Oct 8,2020 4:00 pm || Up

      And if I told you how bad the starting pitching would be over 7 playoff games, you would be surprised they got to play that many.

      TINSTAAFK
  70. 5Aces 5Aces Oct 8,2020 4:02 pm

    Stupid 2020 playoff format. Stupid Covid.

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  71. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 8,2020 4:10 pm

    Bye Marcus, we really loved having you around.

  72. Soaker Soaker Oct 8,2020 4:10 pm

    Support locally made sausage!
  73. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 8,2020 4:16 pm

    The hell is Pressley doing in this game, anyway?

  74. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 8,2020 4:18 pm

    Least plausible teAse yet.

  75. Soaker Soaker Oct 8,2020 4:24 pm

    Support locally made sausage!
  76. 5Aces 5Aces Oct 8,2020 4:29 pm

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    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  77. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 8,2020 5:17 pm

    Goodnight, sweet princes.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  78. sslinger Oct 8,2020 6:01 pm

    Happy off-season Fkers. It was nice to see some of you who reappeared during these playoffs – stick around, we’re fun when there’s no baseball too!

  79. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Oct 9,2020 1:46 pm

    Lew Wolff, fresh off helping Arte Moreno get a sweetheart deal on the Big A site, has some things to say about Oakland.

    Wolff said the A’s also ought to consider duplicating at the Coliseum site what the Angels are doing in Anaheim: revitalizing an aging stadium and replacing the surrounding parking lots with a ballpark village, taking advantage of easy access via freeway and mass transit.

    “I think you can create your own environment there,” he said. “And, frankly, I think the Bay Area is a stronger market.”

    • vignette17 Oct 9,2020 2:30 pm || Up

      Here’s the thing. No one’s going to hang out around the Coliseum site regardless of what you put there. There’s no foot traffic. No one is just passing through and says, yeah I’ll stop by. There’s no offices close enough to say yeah I’ll catch the away game at the A’s bar at the ballpark village after work. I find the idea that the area could ever be a destination untenable. It’s Howard Terminal or they’re moving and it’s 50/50 which happens.

      • mikeA Oct 9,2020 3:15 pm || Up

        Seems to me anything more than minimal commercial development would never work there, but building a bunch of housing seems like it could be profitable, whether a stadium is there or not.

        • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 9,2020 5:22 pm || Up

          Which is why the A’s bought half the site and are negotiating for the rest. Either stadium plan B, or in the end housing, the land itself is a pretty safe asset to sit on while you decide.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."

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