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This time of year I always feel like my legs are moving but I’m not getting anywhere. Spring Training will be here before we know it, though, and the scenery will finally start to change again.

Meanwhile, the A’s are obviously content to run in place with a good-but-flawed roster, hoping that the arrival of the young starters is enough to make up for a failure to even try to improve from outside with anything above Tony Kemp level. Such is life on the cheap. At least they aren’t actively tearing down, yet…

187 thoughts on “Running in Place Grill

  1. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 5,2020 10:22 am

    Between my declining interest in the Raiders and the poor performance from the Tar Heels and Sharks this has been just a terrible sports time. Spring training can’t come soon enough.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • MikeV MikeV Feb 5,2020 10:49 am || Up

      The Quakes suck.
      The A’s are going back to being cheap asses not trying to win.
      Niners lost the Owl.
      Dubs have everybody injured.

      I just want ONE of my sports teams to be good. It’s bullshit.

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

      • vignette17 Feb 5,2020 1:26 pm || Up

        I mean…the Niners made the Super Bowl. The A’s will improve from a 97 win team. The Dubs still have a top 5 player and two top 30 players. Of those 3 teams, I think today is probably the collective best those three have been in my recollection.

        The only time they might have been higher is late 80s with bash bros, run TMC, and Montana-Rice, but that was before I was a sports fan (or even in existence!).

        And as for the Sharks and Quakes…at least they exist?

        • MikeV MikeV Feb 5,2020 3:07 pm || Up

          I worry about what 5aces said. Krush and Piscotty are gonna magically be better, Montas isn’t a flash in the pan, I mean… are we really going to pretend Grossman is the answer at LF, and Tony Kemp is gonna be a 2B on a playoff caliber team

          And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

          Thanks, and go As.

    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 8,2020 6:21 pm || Up

      Not the Tar Heels’ year.

      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 8,2020 6:26 pm || Up

        That was such a screw job, Ted Valentine is the Angel Hernandez of NCAA officials.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  2. 5Aces 5Aces Feb 5,2020 10:48 am

    I worry that the FO has this idea that no one is going to regress, and that everyone that had a bad 2019 (Krush, Piscotty) is going to go back to 2018.

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 5,2020 10:54 am || Up

      That does seem to be the plan, along with Montas putting up a whole season like the couple of months he had, Manaea staying healthy, Diekman not sucking…

      • MikeV MikeV Feb 5,2020 11:29 am || Up

        What if, and bear with me here, they’re not allowed to spend money.

        And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

        Thanks, and go As.

  3. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 5,2020 11:05 am

    The Angels are getting Joc Pederson and a decent pitcher and a prospect for Luis Rengifo??

  4. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 5,2020 11:13 am

    Thanks, Mitt. Sincerely.

    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 5,2020 11:50 am || Up

      Oh, to have been a fly on the wall…

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 5,2020 12:53 pm || Up

      Seriously. The most depressing part of this has been the failure of even one Republican elected to put principal ahead of self-interest. While one obviously isn’t enough, Mitt at least showed that it’s a theoretically possible choice someone can make.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 5,2020 12:58 pm || Up

        We shouldn’t forget Justin Amash. He’s not a Republican anymore, but that’s only because he quit the party over its covering up for Trump.

      • andeux andeux Feb 5,2020 1:19 pm || Up

        In the debate about whether to impeach last year, one of the arguments was that the inevitable acquittal in the Senate would be a boost for Trump and the Republicans.
        I was a little worried about the opposite effect: Susan Collins (e.g.) would have the opportunity for a consequence-free way to boost her (largely fraudulent) credibility as a principled non-partisan. This doesn’t really apply to Mitt, since his seat is safe anyway, so it seems my fear was unfounded.

        TINSTAAFK
        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 5,2020 1:50 pm || Up

          I was also afraid he’d get a couple of Democratic senators to vote for acquittal. Glad that didn’t happen either.

          • andeux andeux Feb 13,2020 1:22 pm || Up

            I suppose another argument against impeachment (and the inevitable acquittal) is that it was something that realistically could only happen once, and now that it has been used the law-breaking has just become more brazen.

            TINSTAAFK
            • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 13,2020 1:32 pm || Up

              For me that wasn’t an argument against impeachment exactly, but an argument for dragging it out as long and as painfully as possible before voting on articles.

  5. Future Ed Future Ed Feb 5,2020 8:18 pm

    JFC, if he doesn’t stop it after this article, there is no way to insulate him from it

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • AV AV Feb 5,2020 9:33 pm || Up

      i say fucking you say christ, jesus.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 6,2020 7:20 am || Up

        The scene of a bunch of hipster assholes from Williamsburg and Silver Lake descending on Des Moines to hang with the working class while listening to Jarvis sing about how “everybody hates a tourist, especially one who thinks it’s all such a laugh” is pretty great.

    • colin colin Feb 6,2020 12:25 pm || Up

      I’m just trying to keep in mind that this is a small number of absolute dipshits.

  6. doctorK doctorK Feb 6,2020 4:45 pm

    Not un-FKing-believable. BART and VTA – the crown jewels of Bay Area transit (with a little hate thrown in for AC Transit).

    I’m not holding my breath that I’ll be able to take a five-minute walk from my front door, jump on a light-rail to Milpitas and transfer to BART to the Coliseum any time before the A’s build the Howard Terminal ballpark.

  7. AV AV Feb 6,2020 8:08 pm
    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 7,2020 2:10 pm || Up

      We are so fucked. I find myself rooting for a solar flare or Kessler event, but probably those would just bring on martial law and make things worse.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  8. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 7,2020 3:20 pm

    The WSJ blows up Jeff Luhnow’s spot.

    On Aug. 26, 2017, in another “road notes,” Koch-Weser wrote: “The system: our dark arts, sign-stealing department has been less productive in the second half as the league has become aware of our reputation and now most clubs change their signs a dozen times per game.” He added that struggling teams like the Toronto Blue Jays and Oakland Athletics “seem not to care as much.”

    Luhnow responded two weeks later.

    “Tom, this type of write up is very helpful,” he wrote. “Seems like our baserunning is still pathetic. What the hell happened to our pitching this series? I mean that was historically bad…”

    Nonetheless, Luhnow told investigators that he did not read the full email because of its length and that if he had, he would have followed up because the reference to “dark arts” sounded “nefarious” and “sinister.”

    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 7,2020 3:25 pm || Up

      Koch-Weser told MLB that Luhnow would “giggle” at the [name Codebreaker] and appeared “excited” about it. Koch-Weser also said that Luhnow sometimes entered the Astros’ video room during road games and made comments such as, “You guys Codebreaking?”

    • lenscrafters Feb 7,2020 5:40 pm || Up

      He’s so fucking scummy.

      • lenscrafters Feb 7,2020 6:17 pm || Up

    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 12,2020 1:03 pm || Up

      More from the WSJ

      The interplay between players and executives was inherent to the sign-stealing program from the start. In 2016, Houston third baseman Alex Bregman, then a rookie, mentioned to video room staffers at one point that other teams were better at stealing signs when runners were on second base than the Astros, according to a person familiar with the matter.

      Three people familiar with the matter said that Bregman wasn’t telling the Astros to cheat, but rather suggesting that they could find a way to decode signs legally.

      Uh huh.

      On May 24, 2017, Koch-Weser, who is still employed by the Astros, sent an email to Luhnow and others that highlights Cora and Beltrán’s roles.

      “I don’t want to electronically correspond too much about ‘the system’ but Cora/Cintron/Beltran have been driving a culture initiated by Bregman/Vigoa last year and I think it’s working,” Koch-Weser wrote. “I have no proof that it has worked, but we get real good dope on pitchers tipping and being lazy. That information, if it’s not already, will eventually yield major results in our favor once players get used to the implementation.” (Alex Cintrón was an Astros assistant coach in 2017 and is now their hitting coach. He was believed to be involved in transmitting information from the video room to the dugout, a person familiar said.)

  9. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 7,2020 7:22 pm

    Watching my first debate of the season and I am utterly perplexed by what Tom Steyer is doing up there. He seems like a perfectly agreeable Seacliff Guy, but like…why do this?

  10. Jennifer Jennifer Feb 8,2020 5:49 am

    2020 is going to be my year, FYI. New job. New house. Chiefs won the Super Bowl. Picture me dancing around on a hill like Julie Andrews in The Sound of Music.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 8,2020 9:06 am || Up

      Excellent. Maybe while you’re at it, run for President?

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  11. Future Ed Future Ed Feb 8,2020 5:39 pm

    I am exhausted from applying for SF schools. The older one wants to go to the public art school, and there are only 7 spots in his chosen discipline (creative writing). In december we had to turn in a packet with 2 5-page stories, 2 personal narratives, a personal essay, 5 poems and a 2-5 page school assignment.

    today he had to go to the school and audition, interview plus writing prompts for 3 hours.

    I had to listen to the parents in the waiting room talk about how driven their kids are, and how they have been reading and writing stories since they were 4. It was the same at the kindergarten open houses, at least one parent would ask about “advanced programs” because their child was and “early reader” (the kids were FOUR).

    this city kinda sucks like that.

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 8,2020 6:20 pm || Up

      Oh my god exactly this. My kid auditioned today too (music). Luckily I was with other kid because I cannot stand being around the parents. The whole process has stressed my household out to an alarming level. I cannot wait for it to be over.

      • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 8,2020 8:29 pm || Up

        “You said there is rigor in the assignments, does that mean there is pressure? I went to stanford, and the pressure of competing was hard on even young adults, how is it handled here?”

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • 5Aces 5Aces Feb 9,2020 10:13 pm || Up

      LAUSD has this and it is a nightmare. All the “regular” schools are garbage so you have to try and get your kid into some sort of magnet or other type of school. And if they dont have some Stepford like desire to jump into something good luck.

      We get decisions back in March and unless we get into 1 of 2 programs the youngest Ace is interested in we are probably going to move down the street some direction to get into one of the better districts nearby where you can just go to high school.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  12. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 8,2020 6:38 pm

    The offseason of weird Rays-Padres trades continues.

  13. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 8,2020 6:44 pm

    So the Betts trade seems to have fallen apart for now either because of a failed prospect medical or Red Sox shiftiness, which puts Joc Pederson-to-Angels in doubt. In the meantime, Pederson went through an arbitration hearing against the Dodgers and lost, with the Dodgers refusing to let him postpone the hearing until after the trade was finalized or canceled. Maybe with his price lower and that relationship ruined, it’s time for Beaneforst to swoop in.

    • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 8,2020 8:30 pm || Up

      I would love this

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 8,2020 9:40 pm || Up

      I don’t care enough to pay attention and a pox on all their fucking houses but why the fuck are the Sox so intent on trading away Mookie Betts?

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • colin colin Feb 9,2020 5:18 am || Up

        They decided that it is more important to get under the luxury tax threshold than it is to have a good team.

    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 9,2020 4:52 pm || Up

      • lenscrafters Feb 9,2020 5:21 pm || Up

        The slegnA were originally slated to get Ross Stripling as well, who’s very underrated.

        Between Pederson and Stripling, I’m fine with them not getting ~6 WAR in talent.

        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 9,2020 6:28 pm || Up

          I don’t understand why it fell through, but I am happy about it.

          • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 10,2020 9:27 am || Up

            can we get Perderson? we have lots of spare infielders around

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
            • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 10,2020 9:56 am || Up

              There’s no way ownership would allow it even at his lower arbitration figure ($7.75 million). But he sure would be an upgrade on Grossman.

            • lenscrafters Feb 10,2020 10:34 am || Up

              You would need to convince the Dodgers to take on Piscotty and his salary (~7 million). The A’s are not going to take on his full salary and the best they could do is probably add 4 million (difference between Pederson’s and Grossman’s salaries, if the Dodgers take Grossman). But the Dodgers would have no interest in Grossman.

              • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 10,2020 10:46 am || Up

                Seems like you would have to dump the salaries on a third team. The Dodgers are trying to get under the luxury tax and clear roster space, as I understand it.

  14. lenscrafters Feb 10,2020 12:43 pm

    Hm, I vaguely recall calling out Mengden’s velocity loss mid last year and the brooks baseball data seems to concur. This would explain things:

    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 12,2020 12:41 pm || Up

  15. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 10,2020 2:36 pm

    New York Post, so appropriate cautions apply

    MLB is seriously weighing a move from five to seven playoff teams in each league beginning in 2022, The Post has learned.

    In this concept, the team with the best record in each league would receive a bye to avoid the wild-card round and go directly to the Division Series. The two other division winners and the wild card with the next best record would each host all three games in a best-of-three wild-card round. So the bottom three wild cards would have no first-round home games.

    The division winner with the second-best record in a league would then get the first pick of its opponent from those lower three wild cards, then the other division winner would pick, leaving the last two wild cards to play each other.

    • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 10,2020 3:19 pm || Up

      So in 2019, the astros wait a week, while the A’s play CLeveland in OAK, the twins play Cleveland, the yankees host the rays?

      Don’t like it. If it were any other team than the angels, I would like MLB’s efforts to get Mike trout into the post season

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 10,2020 3:27 pm || Up

        Astros would sit out, the Yankees get first pick among Rays, Clevelands, and Red Sox, the Twins get second pick, and the A’s get whoever is left. Yankees, Twins, and A’s would be hosting three-game series against those other three teams. There would be a TV show for the picking.

        • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 10,2020 3:52 pm || Up

          It turns out, I didn’t even read all of what you posted.

          regardless, its dumb

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 10,2020 3:35 pm || Up

        I’m on board with almost any scheme that gets rid of the one do-or-die wild card game. But the pick your opponent provision is stupid. Id rather ditch byes entirely and have 8 teams from each league qualify.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • mikeA Feb 11,2020 9:29 am || Up

          The 3 game all-one-location concept is also really stupid. But I agree pretty much anything is better than a one game playoff, which is just absurd for baseball.

      • dmoas Feb 12,2020 6:37 pm || Up

        If you look at this from a perspective how they handle adding two teams and going to 4 divisions of 4, it makes some sense.

        My caveat would be that the the wild card series be a best of 3 with the division winner spotted a game. Only adds one day to the schedule. Top team in the league doesn’t sit too long, but gains the advantage of the team their facing either having burnt their top 1 or top 2 starters. Winning the division would still matter as that means you only need to win one of two games. Hell, even better, make the series a double header so there’s no days added. Division winner winning the first game means not having to play two. And wild card would be at a disadvantage of having to not only win two in a row, but then face your next opponent having burnt your top two starters.

        I also think they should remove all mid-series day offs too and force teams to win with the entire team rather than truncate your roster to your top 2 – 3 starters.

  16. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 10,2020 4:01 pm

    Honestly it’s hard to make a convincing case that any one outing ended the career of a 29 year old journeyman minor leaguer. Still, go Mike Bolsinger, I’m rooting for you.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/nancy-armour/2020/02/10/mike-bolsinger-sues-houston-astros-says-cheating-changed-his-career/4712164002/

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 10,2020 5:34 pm || Up

      I don’t do torts, or civil at all, but I think there is something there, I mean, getting sent out in mid august immediately following the astros outing after 4 journyman outings is compelling. Hanging on a couple of weeks to september 1 would mean about $80k.

      But because of roster rules, the Jays had to make a decision on his status.

      Also, I cna’t wait to see the expert opinions on pitch type equivalents

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  17. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 10,2020 5:15 pm

    They’ve changed the way A’s Access members buy discounted $10 parking. Now you buy for a specific game day rather than an undated voucher usable for any game. I wonder whether they’ll be exchangeable when one’s plans change, the way game tickets are.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  18. lenscrafters Feb 11,2020 8:45 am

    I can’t recall ZiPS ever liking us this much.

    The Brooks Robinson comp for Chapman is quite nice.

    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 11,2020 10:03 am || Up

      Sean Manaea – Tommy John

      • 5Aces 5Aces Feb 11,2020 10:07 am || Up

        I was just glancing at the page when I saw this and had forgot the context. Threw up a little bit in my mouth.

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 11,2020 11:09 am || Up

      500 PAs out of Laureano seems…high

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • vignette17 Feb 11,2020 11:19 am || Up

      What’s a replacement level team in wins according to ZiPS? If it’s 50, that’s a projection of 97 wins…

      • lenscrafters Feb 11,2020 11:39 am || Up

        I think it’s around 47-48. Still though..

        • andeux andeux Feb 21,2020 10:59 am || Up

          Looks like it’s actually 43. In any case, the good news is that we are projected as 5th best in baseball, the bad news is that is still almost 10 wins behind the Asterisks.

          TINSTAAFK
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 11,2020 12:19 pm || Up

      Now would be a good time to make Chapman a multi-millionaire several times over and extend him a couple years into free agency, practically guaranteeing he spends his best years in Oakland.

      Amen to that shit.

    • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 11,2020 1:01 pm || Up
      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  19. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 11,2020 9:55 am

    Kipnis hasn’t hit well for years. My impression (maybe wrong) is he’s a solid defender and at 33 maybe a brief renaissance with the bat isn’t out of the question. All in all probably better than Kemp but not by a lot.

    • mikeA Feb 11,2020 10:34 am || Up

      Reading the zips projections, I was mildly annoyed to be reminded of Kemp. Having Kemp and Grossman around as guys who can’t be sent down is just ridiculous.

  20. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 11,2020 1:34 pm

    Pretty funny Athletic article in which anonymous Astros pin everything on Carlos Beltran.

    During the season, small groups of Astros discussed their misgivings. McCann at one point approached Beltrán and asked him to stop, two members of the 2017 team said.

    “He disregarded it and steamrolled everybody,” one of the team members said. “Where do you go if you’re a young, impressionable player with the Astros and this guy says, ‘We’re doing this’? What do you do?”

    • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 11,2020 2:38 pm || Up

      this shit is so racist

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 20,2020 9:24 am || Up

        Keeps getting funnier.

        • 5Aces 5Aces Feb 20,2020 9:45 am || Up

          Tonight on a very special episode of “Saved by the Trash Can Bang” the kids find out just how difficult peer pressure can be…

          Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  21. Soaker Soaker Feb 11,2020 5:21 pm

    The 2020 media guide is available for download. I refer to that quite often during the season. In spring training, when Korach talks about a “back of the book guy”, they’re literally in the back of this book.

    Support locally made sausage!
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 11,2020 6:24 pm || Up

      That is a tremendous resource. I remember Korach lamenting last year on one or more opponents who have stopped producing them.

      The A’s have only had one AL player (non-pitcher) of the month since 2001.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 11,2020 6:28 pm || Up

        The Oakland A’s are 9-1 in games of 17 innings or longer.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 11,2020 6:31 pm || Up

          The franchise record for walk off HRs is 5, shared by Rickey, Reggie, and Matt Stairs.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • Soaker Soaker Feb 11,2020 10:03 pm || Up

            I’m sure I’ve linked this boxscore here or on AN: 7/25/1975, one of the best games I saw at the Coliseum as a youthful soaker, with three comebacks to tie leading to one of those Reggie walk-offs.

            Favorite game I attended from that era though was ending Gaylord Perry’s winning streak with Herb Washington tying the game on a very short sacrifice fly and then Claudell winning it. A World Series atmosphere on a Monday night in July.

            Support locally made sausage!
            • Soaker Soaker Feb 12,2020 11:32 am || Up

              As Upgrade alluded to in the first comment above it’s the time of year when it’s been four months since I’ve seen an A’s game, so pour a little alcohol into ole Soaker at night and he starts the nostalgic babbling about the good old days. I’ll be hanging around the Cactus League for a few days in early March, for the first time in several years, and I’m ready for it.

              Support locally made sausage!
  22. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 12,2020 11:42 am

    The latest Slusser podcast features an ad for KY lube (“for an experience so mind-blowing, it’ll leave you glowing”).

    I don’t have anything else to say about that, just wanted to note it for the record.

    • AV AV Feb 12,2020 12:26 pm || Up

      remember that year the A’s were on KYCY.

      and i kept thinking they were saying KY… see why!

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  23. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 12,2020 12:03 pm

    Well hey, pitchers and catchers have reported! We’re gonna make it!!

    • Soaker Soaker Feb 12,2020 12:39 pm || Up

      Has Dr. ElAttrache taken a 6-week lease on office space in Mesa this year? Seems like that would be convenient for everybody.

      Support locally made sausage!
  24. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 12,2020 5:24 pm

    I’m starting to wonder if the Astros just signed Dusty to be a media heatshield for a season before they go back to some morality-challenged Stanford grad.

    • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 12,2020 6:29 pm || Up

      that wasn’t express?

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 12,2020 6:50 pm || Up

        Yeah they also hired Click from Tampa (née BPro) as GM, the biz school analytics approach ain’t goin nowhere. Dusty gets to helm their lost season then retire “on his own terms.”

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 12,2020 7:00 pm || Up

      Some Stanford-ass shit right here.

      In the statement Hinch said, “After my interview with Tom Verducci last week, there has been a significant reaction to my answer to the ‘buzzer’ question. To be clear, I have never seen any such device used in baseball. I am not aware of any such device existing or being utilized with the Astros, the players, or any other team.

      “I was first asked about such devices during the investigation by MLB. In my interview with Tom, I acknowledged the commissioner’s report as evidence due to the in-depth nature of the investigation, not as an intended non-answer or a way to elude the question.”

      • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 12,2020 8:32 pm || Up

        He must be sincere, look at all those words

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • 5Aces 5Aces Feb 13,2020 9:41 am || Up

          Non-denial denial.

          Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  25. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 13,2020 6:57 am

    Of course you don’t. You’re far too rich for accountability.

    • doctorK doctorK Feb 13,2020 9:17 am || Up

      Just taking a page from El Trumpador.

    • 5Aces 5Aces Feb 13,2020 9:41 am || Up

      The buck stops somewhere.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
      • andeux andeux Feb 13,2020 11:07 am || Up

        The organization isn’t accountable because it was purely player-driven.
        And the players aren’t accountable because it was being done at an organizational level.

        TINSTAAFK
    • dmoas Feb 15,2020 12:05 am || Up

      Sure. You weren’t involved. But your ignorance and incompetence as a managing partner fostered an environment that encouraged cheating. For that, he’s absolutely responsible for and needs to be punished for.

  26. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 13,2020 7:09 am

    Sorry about the choices that were made by…me.

    • lenscrafters Feb 13,2020 7:53 am || Up

      Just a hilariously awful press conference. Given the Osuna debacle, they’ve really learned absolutely nothing about PR.

      • 5Aces 5Aces Feb 13,2020 9:43 am || Up

        It’s spring training. They’re working on things…

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
        • colin colin Feb 13,2020 10:53 am || Up

          Best shape of his lies

          • doctorK doctorK Feb 13,2020 11:33 am || Up

            I’d forgotten how much I love FK until just now.

          • dmoas Feb 15,2020 12:06 am || Up

            They worked hard all off season for this moment. This. This right here? This them stepping hard on that clutch.

  27. lenscrafters Feb 14,2020 9:48 am

    Of all the insults-to-your-intelligence things in the commissioner’s report, I find the most ridiculous conclusion to be that the Astros stopped cheating in ’18, ’19 after successfully cheating their way to a championship in ’17.

    • mikeA Feb 14,2020 10:23 am || Up

      What are you going to do?

      Win anyway and don a red hat in celebration.

      • dmoas Feb 15,2020 12:07 am || Up

        Maybe mention it to the ump to see if they notice.

  28. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 15,2020 9:56 am

    Creeping bothsidesism

    • andeux andeux Feb 15,2020 10:07 am || Up

      “Read the transcripts!” he added.

      TINSTAAFK
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 16,2020 4:23 pm || Up

        Stealing a joke from Twitter: Senator Collins is sure the Astros have learned their lesson.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • dmoas Feb 15,2020 10:19 pm || Up

      Doesn’t sound like he’s taking it on the chin there. So maybe he needs to take on in the back.

  29. andeux andeux Feb 15,2020 10:14 am

    He looks kind of like Ted Lilly. Not a good sign.

    TINSTAAFK
  30. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 15,2020 11:29 am

    Ray Fosse, master cryptographer.

    “It’s just so basic,” said A’s broadcaster Ray Fosse, an All-Star catcher whose 12-year career included three seasons (1973-75) with Oakland. “When I caught, I used signs that no way they could be detected. One system we used a lot was the add and subtract. If I touch my chest, now that “1” sign for a fastball becomes a “2.” If I touch my leg, you subtract a number. Then you do that in reverse. Or maybe all the signs are on your equipment, and whatever you do between your legs means nothing.”

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 15,2020 12:15 pm || Up

      “…whatever you do between your legs means nothing.”

      And Ray fails the Turing test.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • andeux andeux Feb 15,2020 12:31 pm || Up

      Good thing technology hasn’t changed the game at all in the last 45 years.

      TINSTAAFK
  31. AV AV Feb 17,2020 10:09 pm

    streak.

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  32. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 18,2020 8:29 am

    Sad

    This far exceeds my recommended daily dose of bullshit:

    “We’re excited,” A’s president Dave Kaval said of the move to an entirely streaming platform in the Bay Area. “We’re trying to be innovative, we’re trying to be responsive to fans and trying to attract younger fans.”

    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 18,2020 9:47 am || Up

      This kind of dismissiveness/tech-shaming is a terrible approach for Kaval to take.

      • AV AV Feb 18,2020 10:44 am || Up

        tbh, this is working in my favor.

        won’t be long till the A’s is a podcast.

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • lenscrafters Feb 18,2020 2:00 pm || Up

        Are they going to at least going to announce a simultaneous increase in investment in A’s Cast programming? From my limited experience with A’s Cast last year, the biggest issues to me were

        1. Not knowing when to expect actual live programming vs a replay
        2. What the actual schedule of shows were (this site gives no details – if I wanted to listen to a weekly David Forst segment, can I and when is it?)
        3. Townsend was the only host

        If they want to position streaming as the future, fine, but they need to invest in this product like it is (i.e. hire more hosts, consistent 6AM-9PM live programming, etc).

        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 28,2020 1:43 pm || Up

          Korach agrees with you

          [W]e have a great opportunity on this channel now, because we have the ability to program our own channel 24 hours a day. I think it’d be great if someday — I don’t know that they can do it immediately — there was a morning show on there, a morning baseball show. Because we have Chris (Townsend) in the afternoon, you have Chris doing the postgame shows and you have the games. So, I think that we need to take advantage of this opportunity, too.

      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 21,2020 10:42 pm || Up

        • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 22,2020 7:53 am || Up

          I endorse the joke, but still don’t like no terrestrial radio

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 22,2020 7:54 am || Up

          I’ve been a fan of Kaval’s approach and attitude, the Giants trolling, the promotional innovation, and his consistently upbeat tone about the new ballpark. But his continuing blithe dismissal of the concerns of a large number of A’s fans on this issue is disturbing. I mean, yeah, Bruce Jenkins and Scott Ostler are both dour oldsters who often diss the A’s. But on this issue, they are voicing legitimate concerns that many A’s identify with. Read the room, Dave.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • mikeA Feb 18,2020 9:50 am || Up

      Appalling.

      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 18,2020 10:06 am || Up

        It’s going to be especially galling this season when the Giants are being simulcast on AM and FM for the first time.

        • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 18,2020 10:29 am || Up

          It will also be galling when we inevitably lose Korach, who is a radio lifer and probably not excited to become a glorified podcaster.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • 5Aces 5Aces Feb 18,2020 12:53 pm || Up

            Will it offend Vince too? Pls say it will offend Vince too…

            Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • andeux andeux Feb 18,2020 10:04 am || Up

      “We’re trying to be innovative,

      Last week my (tech) employer elevated the (non-technical) head of HR to “Chief Innovation Officer.” That was also a very innovative move.

      TINSTAAFK
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 18,2020 10:16 am || Up

        You must be very excited for all of the upcoming disruption!

    • lenscrafters Feb 18,2020 10:07 am || Up

      Just another example of the penny wish, pound foolish approach that’s been a hallmark of this franchise.

      Yes, it would’ve cost a hefty chunk of change to buy their own station. Yes, purchasing the air time on a station just for airing the games is probably a net loss in the short term financially. But the effects of ceding yet another share of the market to the team across the bay will be felt long term. I mean, for all intents and purposes, the other team controls two radio stations now.

      The culmination of all of these fan unfriendly decisions over the last 20 years is what led to the 90-10 disparity in market size between the two franchises.

      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 18,2020 10:24 am || Up

        This is spot on, really feels like something from the Wolff era. Such stupidity. The hours spent in a car, at the beach, really anywhere without a strong steady wifi signal will now be A’s free time. This is enraging.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Soaker Soaker Feb 18,2020 2:21 pm || Up

      They painted themselves into this corner the day they flipped the Green and Gold Middle Finger at Entercom’s 95.7 The Game a couple years ago. “Sad” is a fair reaction, it’s the rather jarring end of an era. If there’s an earthquake down there today it’s Bill King rolling over in his grave.

      Nevertheless I don’t see this as a disaster. Nobody paid for radio at the turn of the century; now SiriusXM alone has about 35 million subscribers, and they are gradually de-emphasizing the satellite service and moving to streaming. My perspective on it is obviously colored by the fact that I haven’t lived within range of a terrestrial station that carried the A’s since 2008, yet I hear Ken and Vince almost every day.

      Being an “OK Boomer” I have never actually streamed any audio from my phone while in the car. A few days ago, seeing the wave of the future though not today’s specific news, I ordered one of those phone mounts and chargers that fits into my obsolete and never-used CD player, and will be giving that an extended test on my drive across the desert to Phoenix in a couple weeks. That was actually motivated by SiriusXM’s move of their two best variety stations, The Loft and Jam On, off the satellite service (Jam On somewhat ironically being replaced by Phish Radio, which is good for concert replays but I don’t need Phish all day on a long drive, nor the Grateful Dead Channel).

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      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 18,2020 7:28 pm || Up

        The more I think about this the more angry I am. In part because telling 95.7 to fuck off was a completely self-inflicted wound, but also because radio is so fundamental to the way I enjoy baseball every day. It won’t take too many at-bats lost to buffering to ruin the car experience, and I’m already writing off beach days. Sure, it’s not going to make me stop being a fan. Is that really the bar Kaval aspires to meet?

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 18,2020 8:42 pm || Up

          beach days are the only thing I worry about. I can deal with car tech, I’ve streamed in my house for at least 5 years, if not more, but the data when I am not on wifi will a) cost me money (not a lot, but not negligible) and power on my phone. that is something I don’t like to do.

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • Soaker Soaker Feb 22,2020 2:58 pm || Up

            I have realized for a while that I’ll eventually rely exclusively on the phone and an unlimited data plan for car and beach.

            Google Fi’s pricing is $70 for unlimited data, or for limited, $20/month + $10/1 GB, up to 6 GB, where it maxes out and data becomes free after that point. I’ve been on the limited plan and the bill is usually around $27/mo., as historically because I haven’t ordinarily used the streaming I use very little data. So it’s basically a $10 surcharge to $80 for unlimited data if I stay on the limited plan.

            I think I’ll unplug the satellite radio in the car for a couple months, use the streaming exclusively and test what happens both to cost and, out here in a non-urban area, continuity of connection. The mentality of not listening to something I want to listen to because of the marginal cost of data…I know that’s going to have to change pretty soon if not now.

            The price of being a participant in modern society, I guess.

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            • andeux andeux Feb 22,2020 3:34 pm || Up

              It looks like the “A’s Cast” on TuneIn is using a 96 kbps stream, which should cost you around $1.30 in data for a 3-hour game. Not nothing, but still well short of the unlimited plan, even if you were listening that way every day.

              TINSTAAFK
              • Soaker Soaker Feb 22,2020 4:04 pm || Up

                Baseball broadcasts aren’t really the issue (for me, not so for Bay Area 95.7/KTRB listeners). I’ve always been fine with the “home team only” broadcast on the SiriusXM satellite service, considered that a “feature not a bug” as it forced/allowed me to listen to broadcasts other than Ken/Vince. It’s more about listening to exactly the music programming I want. I want to give it some time for the test and then think about cost vs. benefit.

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                • batgirl batgirl Feb 27,2020 12:15 pm || Up

                  Oh is that how Sirius works? I had it for free in my new car and was thinking of keeping it for the season. but I guess I’d rather have Ken & Vince rather than the other team’s announcers. I find that A’s Cast drops out a lot for me as does the MLB app. Was hoping Sirius would be steadier.

                • 5Aces 5Aces Feb 28,2020 3:12 pm || Up

                  If you go to the app you can get the A’s broadcast for away games (I believe) but they only have the home teams in the car.

                  Not to go off topic, but that division doesnt make much sense now that they are giving you the app and extra channels with your car subscription. There are like an extra 1-2 hundred channels on the app and I would love to have some of them easily accessible in the car.

                  Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
                • batgirl batgirl Feb 29,2020 9:10 am || Up

                  Yeah I’ve been using the app a bit. Mostly so I can get “1st Wave workout” and can briskly walk my dog to the more upbeat Smiths tracks. But then when I get in my car my phone will connect to the car, so instead of listening to the car radio, I’m listening to the phone. So that’s good to hear about getting the A’s feed for road games in my car.

                • Soaker Soaker Feb 29,2020 12:09 pm || Up

                  Streaming has a dedicated channel for the Ken/Vince A’s broadcasts (859) so just set that as a Favorite. On satellite the A’s game channel varies day to day so you have to look it up or hunt for it.

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                • 5Aces 5Aces Feb 29,2020 2:10 pm || Up

                  How is it on data use? Ive been thinking of doing the same but dont want to all of a sudden find an extra $×00 bill.

                  Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
                • Soaker Soaker Mar 2,2020 1:30 pm || Up

                  I’m testing the SiriusXM app on the Angels radio broadcast today. It looks like it’s coming in at around 40-45 MB per hour at the “Normal” (lowest) audio streaming quality setting, so at my $10/1 GB that would be $1.20-$1.35 per 3-hour game, which is the same number andeux gave me for A’s Cast above.

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    • Soaker Soaker Feb 19,2020 11:11 am || Up

      Reading further this morning: I thought either Salem didn’t like having A’s broadcasts interfere with their other programming, or they raised the price so much for the time buy that the A’s didn’t want to pay it. It doesn’t sound like either of those is the case; the A’s just decided they didn’t want to be on radio in the Bay Area.

      The A’s got some negative feedback from fans last season because KTRB features conservative on-air personalities. But the move was a surprise to station officials.

      Mike Shields, the general manager of Salem Media Group, which owns the station, said the A’s gave notice last week that they would not be renewing their contract. Shields said the broadcast partnership was productive from his view and the station was planning for another season of broadcasting games.

      “We certainly had hoped it would continue. We enjoyed the relationship quite a bit,” Shields said. “We did not know it was coming. But in this day and age, things change. We wish them the best.”

      Shields didn’t close the door on a reunion — even this season, if the A’s so choose. (my emphasis)

      “We will continue to do everything possible to leave the door open,” Shields said. “You never know.”

      I couldn’t care less what the station’s programming is outside of game windows. Turn on the radio and hear somebody waving the Trump flag, just hit another button as fast as you can. The MLB and SiriusXM feeds were both straight from KTRB last season and I don’t recall hearing promotions for right-wing programs in-game but a couple times, which were probably mistakes.

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  33. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 18,2020 11:04 am

    Wow, this is like the best day ever to be a convicted violator of the public trust. Too bad Mohammed Nuru is the wrong kind of criminal to catch Trump’s fancy.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 18,2020 11:19 am || Up

      Bummer for Scott McKibben that his alleged crimes weren’t federal.

      • ptbnl Feb 19,2020 10:05 am || Up

        Adding Julian Assange to the list, with a quid pro quo.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  34. ptbnl Feb 18,2020 2:09 pm

    Getting reliable information out of the A’s Membership Services office this off-season has been a nightmare.

    The latest gem is that apparently you can either have your A’s account set to print your tickets out, or to store them electronically, but not both.

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 18,2020 2:36 pm || Up

      Yeah something has changed with them, either via staff turnover or management direction. We saw this in the run up to postseason, when it was exceedingly hard to get seemingly basic info about the ticket packages they were selling.

      Like the still-awful online ticket management interface, I suspect a lot of the problem has to do with force fitting the new Access model onto the old infrastructure.

      That said, that clunky interface always allowed printing or e-transferring or exchanging of individual games before, and the interface hasn’t changed. What functionality was lost?

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • ptbnl Feb 18,2020 2:40 pm || Up

        The front row seat season ticket holder was trying to send me some tickets and none of the options were active (all greyed out); when he contacted Membership Services they said that the default was print-only but that it could be reset to electronic-only.

        Frankly I don’t believe it – this is, after all, the same guy who told us dynamic pricing had been abandoned.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
        • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 18,2020 3:22 pm || Up

          For us 10-gamers all those options were greyed out when they were in voucher form, then the options were turned on after the 10 specific games were selected. It’s obviously ludicrous to make the ticket holder choose each game if you’re choosing all 81 of them, but…(see previous comments re interface).

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Soaker Soaker Feb 18,2020 2:49 pm || Up

        I’m not A’s Access and don’t know the specific issues, but this was Giles’ baby and somebody else had to take charge when he jumped ship.

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        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 18,2020 3:01 pm || Up

          Sounds like they need to hire Giles’ consulting firm.

        • andeux andeux Feb 18,2020 3:55 pm || Up

          Someone at VP level shouldn’t need to be involved in that level of UI details.

          Anyway, as FSU says this doesn’t really match with my experience. Well, the part about the UI being clunky in general does, but I’m looking at the games I’ve selected right now and “Forward Tickets” and “Print Tickets” are both options.

          Maybe the “Print Only” option FSU is seeing is referring to printed (by the team) tickets. In that case, it does make some sense that they don’t let you forward them electronically before they have been printed out and mailed to the season ticket holder. After that you can enter the bar code for individual games (or maybe they all get entered automatically) if you want to forward or sell them.

          TINSTAAFK
          • Soaker Soaker Feb 18,2020 4:28 pm || Up

            I notice the home-printed paper ticket with a barcode is the latest obsolete technology. The first time I ran into that was with the Pac-12 Championship Game at Levi’s Stadium in late 2018 and it’s happened a lot more since then. The ticket is on your smart phone, or go stand in a will call line. Latest example was the Mariners for the mid-May series in Seattle but there have been several others.

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  35. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 18,2020 4:21 pm

    I was not expecting the level of vitriol that players have directed at both the Astros players and Manfred over the last week. Now we’ve even got LeBron coming in hot.

    • dmoas Feb 18,2020 6:09 pm || Up

      He’s right. They should have brought down the hammer on them.

      • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 18,2020 8:46 pm || Up

        Calcaterra is right that a grievance, and likely successful grievance would follow, but something need to be done. I also agree that candor was needed from the players. BUt I don’t see a difference between candor on this against interest v the required candor against penal interest in DV cases

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • 5Aces 5Aces Feb 19,2020 9:40 am || Up

          Well and even if you had a simple “if we could we would be bringing down the hammer, and we are working with MLBPA so we can if it ever happens again” would have been a start. It amazes me how Manfred constantly is doing the extreme minimum he hopes they can get away with.

          Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  36. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 19,2020 6:22 pm

    Wow, they’ve come out throwing haymakers so far. Bloomberg looks completely lost

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 19,2020 6:57 pm || Up

      At halftime, and omg is Bloomberg bad. Awful answers on stop n frisk and nondisclosure harassment settlements. And he actually joked about being too rich to use Turbotax.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 19,2020 8:06 pm || Up

      Leaving aside how little it may actually matter, from a debate standpoint Elizabeth Warren was the clear winner. Sharp messaging, knew exactly who she wanted to aim at and on which issues, and by far the best tactically. Impressively well prepared.

      Pete was also very sharp. Bernie was not remotely concerned with assuaging anyone’s electability fears. Klob definitely knew she wanted to make electability her issue and hit that theme well but got flustered several times. Biden was…regular. And Bloomberg was just abysmal. All that money and he can’t hire a debate coach? Inexcusably bad.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • andeux andeux Feb 20,2020 10:23 am || Up

        Warren seems to be the clear choice among FKers and random people I follow on Twitter. Those groups need to be more heavily weighted in polls.

        TINSTAAFK
        • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 20,2020 10:55 am || Up

          Make us all super delegates and watch Bernie freak out.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  37. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 20,2020 9:18 am

    Thanks Brett

    “I know the A’s weren’t cheating,” said Anderson, who signed with Milwaukee this winter. “Because, one, I don’t know if they could afford it. And to relay from fucking 300 yards away in the video room? What were we going to do, get some vendor to throw some popcorn up in the air, or something? It’s too fucking far to relay something.”

    Anderson joked the only way for Oakland to communicate would be through the ballpark’s decaying infrastructure. “The lights go out, it’s a curveball,” Anderson said. “If there’s a sewage backup, it’s a fastball.”

    • ptbnl Feb 20,2020 11:30 am || Up

      He missed a trick there … surely lights out is a fastball and sewage backup is a curveball.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 20,2020 12:32 pm || Up

        Are you arguing with best hitting pitcher the A’s have had since the DH?

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 20,2020 12:40 pm || Up

          Brett could only recognize the pitches in retrospect… sore back means it was a fastball, strained groin means curve.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  38. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 20,2020 4:32 pm
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 20,2020 5:15 pm || Up

      Chances Huff appears on stage with Trump in Vegas tomorrow approaching 100%. Poor victim of bullying for what he believes.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 21,2020 12:57 pm || Up

        No Huff so far, but will you accept the 1980 USA Hockey team standing behind Trump in red hats while he talks about it being a “distinct possibility” he’ll still be president in 2028?

    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 21,2020 11:50 am || Up

      Hmmm, yeah, that’s the good stuff.

      Another example of a dalliance with Huff going badly was when the San Francisco Chronicle published — briefly, anyway — an opinion piece from Ryan Moore (“a writer, songwriter and social media strategist”) which included the following bits of wisdom:

      • “Progressives want men to act like women now? It is not yet illegal to be crude and vulgar but I’ll bet most progressives would like it to be illegal and certainly want to ban anyone who is crude and vulgar from anything and everything. Twenty years ago, no one would have complained, or raised an eyebrow at anything Huff has said.”

      • “Instead of supporting free speech, progressives label all opinions that differ from their own, as hate speech. We all should stand up for free speech and opinions we disagree with. We need to make jokes and flirting acceptable again. We need to keep baseball and men’s sports masculine.”

      • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 22,2020 7:54 am || Up

        Is the Klobacher endorsement still up?

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 22,2020 9:31 am || Up

          Hey-o!

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • Future Ed Future Ed Mar 2,2020 2:10 pm || Up

          I ask again

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Mar 2,2020 2:37 pm || Up

            Speaking of, Warren now has the other 50% of the Times endoresment I guess.

  39. Future Ed Future Ed Feb 20,2020 7:39 pm

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 21,2020 10:19 am || Up

      That must be where they were meeting to fire the chief.

  40. AV AV Feb 21,2020 8:45 am

    pod epp with EM about the radio move getting you in your feels.

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  41. doctorK doctorK Feb 23,2020 5:06 pm

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