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Treinen and Jurkstore are still likely to be non-tendered if they are not traded before the deadline today, with Phegley and Buchter also possibilities, per Slusser.

Other candidates around the league include Addison Russell, who the A’s wisely gave up as part of a brilliant plan to acquire Marcus Semien, and has had issues on and off the field, and, for some reason, Jonathan Villar, who might be a good option for 2B if our owners were willing to spend any money at all.

65 thoughts on “Non-tender is the day

  1. andeux andeux Dec 2,2019 10:51 am

    And it seems as I was writing that, we traded Profar to the Padres:

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  2. lenscrafters Dec 2,2019 11:17 am

    I’m surprised they managed to trade Profar. Tbh, I would rather tender him than Grossman and put Profar in left field, but the preferred option is neither. I really don’t want Grossman next year at the 4 million he’s projected to get.

    Villar is an intriguing option, who’s put up 3.0, 2.0, and 4.0 fWAR in 3 of the last 4 years (with the one bad year being negative WAR), but it’s interesting in that no one seems to want to pay him his arb figure of 10 million.

    • DFA DFA Dec 3,2019 7:20 am || Up

      Agree with Villar. Seems like a better bet than what we have to be above average.

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  3. lenscrafters Dec 2,2019 11:37 am

    • Soaker Soaker Dec 2,2019 11:49 am || Up

      Considering that the A’s usually waste at least $5M on a bad reliever (Casilla, Rodney), $1.8M is pocket change. And they can still blow $3M or so on somebody else!

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      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 3,2019 12:07 pm || Up

        And they can still blow $3M or so on somebody else!

        Diekman just claimed this money.

  4. andeux andeux Dec 2,2019 11:48 am

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    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 2,2019 11:55 am || Up

      I was going to comment “great trade; who’d we get” but this seems like an actual great trade.

    • lenscrafters Dec 2,2019 12:02 pm || Up

      The Padres AAA team hit .299/.367/.530 overall (roughly in line with the Aviators’ numbers) so those numbers are probably to be taken with a grain of salt. But he can probably still hit a little and while defensively challenged, he should at least be capable of being a left handed Phegley.

  5. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 2,2019 1:08 pm

    On the rosterbation tip, anyone know what the official (non-September) roster rules are for next season? My googling suggests that it is 26 players, with a max of 13 pitchers, but I’m not sure whether that second part is official.

    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 5,2019 3:19 pm || Up

      I guess I’m not the only one who isn’t sure what the official rules are for the coming season.

      • dmoas Dec 5,2019 3:36 pm || Up

        It’s a stupid rule that actually changes the entirety of how the game is played. And not for any improvement of the game but I theoretically speeding up of the game. Which is no guarantee if you leave a shitty pitcher in for 3 batters rather than immediately replace him. I do hope they make concessions for between innings (i.e. if the inning ends, you can replace them regardless of how many hitters they’ve faced) if they apply it.

        • andeux andeux Dec 5,2019 4:09 pm || Up

          Three batters or the end of the inning is what has been proposed. I agree that it won’t speed things up significantly.
          The roster restriction is even worse. Here’s an extra roster spot, but you can only use it in a way that almost every team thinks is suboptimal.

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          • dmoas Dec 5,2019 4:16 pm || Up

            I don’t think I caught the roster rule.

            • andeux andeux Dec 5,2019 4:21 pm || Up

              What GM said above:

              26 players, with a max of 13 pitchers

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  6. andeux andeux Dec 2,2019 3:19 pm

    Mariners non-tender Domingo Santana and Tim Beckham, the two guys who killed us in the opening series last year.

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    • DFA DFA Dec 3,2019 7:22 am || Up

      Beckham is going to be suspended for a substantial portion of next year

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
  7. andeux andeux Dec 2,2019 4:50 pm

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    • lenscrafters Dec 2,2019 4:59 pm || Up

      I still don’t understand Grossman being tendered though.

      • MikeV MikeV Dec 2,2019 5:29 pm || Up

        GOLD GLOVE NOMINEE Grossman, you mean.

        And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

        Thanks, and go As.

    • Soaker Soaker Dec 2,2019 6:33 pm || Up

      Diekman 7.1 BB/9
      Treinen 5.7 BB/9
      Buchter 4.6 BB/9 (but man that one seemed higher)

      I hope Lou at 4.7 BB/9 gets that message.

      Somebody will surely snap up Treinen but Billy and Forst evidently decided they got lucky with the Dexys Midnight Runners of relievers.

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      • Future Ed Future Ed Dec 3,2019 6:12 am || Up

        Dexy’s Midnight Runners? You haven’t heard the last of them

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        • lenscrafters Dec 3,2019 11:24 am || Up

          Indeed…

          • andeux andeux Dec 3,2019 11:27 am || Up

            What? Why?

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            • Future Ed Future Ed Dec 3,2019 11:57 am || Up

              opposing batters aren’t going to walk themselves, duh.

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            • lenscrafters Dec 3,2019 12:48 pm || Up

              I guess I can sort of understand it. With the 3 batter minimum rule, Diekman has some value in that he’s a LH reliever who’s equally good (or equally bad based on your perspective) against righties and lefties. And it’s not a lot of money.

              But the best thing you can say about Diekman is that you just don’t know what you’re going to get (except lots of walks). And between McFarland/Diekman, there’s a real chance you just set ~6 million on fire and you find yourself in the same position at the trade deadline – in need of a decent LH reliever. It’s a continuation of that line of questionable spending on relievers of which Rodney, Casilla, Axford, etc are prime examples of. Penny-wise in that you could justify each of them individually as “not a lot of money”; pound foolish in that what kind of real performance gain are you getting?

              Of course, what a normal team in our position (young, cheap, good with few holes to cover) would do is shell out for the best available options for the few holes needed to fill. Like the Braves did with Will Smith.

          • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 3,2019 11:48 am || Up

            Diekman forever! Buchter never!

          • Soaker Soaker Dec 3,2019 12:19 pm || Up

            ugggh no. I went to the A’s site to buy spring training tickets and got this punch in the mouth instead.

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          • 5Aces 5Aces Dec 3,2019 2:34 pm || Up

            Our not very long national nightmare is back again.

            Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  8. andeux andeux Dec 3,2019 10:36 am

    Wow, Kamala crashed and burned faster than I expected. (Bonus quotes from oaktoon a few days ago.)

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    • Future Ed Future Ed Dec 3,2019 12:12 pm || Up

      I saw on twitter someone point out that the deadline to drop off the california ballot is dec 26. If she is polling poorly in CA she may not want to be on a ballot here and get trounced. Not that I can see a real challenger to her senate seat in 2022, but it won’t be a good look. She had a tough race against the mayor (?) of fresno for AG.

      Biden is gonna come creeping around to give her a VP position.

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    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 3,2019 1:12 pm || Up

      I wonder what blog oaktoon is manifesting his craziest mood swings at these days.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  9. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 3,2019 12:58 pm

    {insert Dylan Thomas joke}

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 3,2019 1:10 pm || Up

      “Do not go gentle into that good night” should be on the tip of Korach’s tongue if he hits a walkoff.

      “Rage rage against the dying of the light” for fans the next time a season comes to disapppointing fruition. Or, you know, the next time the Coliseum lights fail.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • 5Aces 5Aces Dec 3,2019 3:01 pm || Up

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  10. mikeA Dec 3,2019 8:11 pm

    I think I’d rather have Buchter than Diekman or McFarland (I don’t want Buchter.) Or Treinen even at the higher price. Also agree with most that Grossman should have been nt’d. All this seems weird and bad.

    • MikeV MikeV Dec 3,2019 10:06 pm || Up

      Treinen for 8M or Diekman for 7.5? I mean really.

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

      • dmoas Dec 3,2019 10:26 pm || Up

        I’m sure if Treinen was 4M/per for 2 years, they’d have kept him. Diekman shouldn’t have been resigned, but that doesn’t make 8M for Treinen smart.

  11. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 4,2019 11:40 am

    Notable

    Anaheim’s hometown baseball team would continue playing in Angel Stadium for another 30 years, and the city would sell the stadium and 133 acres around it to a business partnership including team owner Arte Moreno for about $325 million, under the proposed outline of a deal that Anaheim City Council members were briefed on Tuesday, Dec. 3.

    • dmoas Dec 4,2019 12:12 pm || Up

      The odds of them staying that stadium for the next 30 years is virtually nil. I’m sure this is part of a plan to build a new stadium in that location.

  12. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 4,2019 12:17 pm

    Zach Wheeler to the Phillies at 5/118.

  13. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 4,2019 12:43 pm

    I’m underwhelmed by the new Rangers uniforms.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 4,2019 3:35 pm || Up

      The head-to-toe powder blue home ensemble is quite ridiculous.

      Ive always thought either Texas or Anaheim should be compelled to change to a totally different color scheme. Too similar to be in the same division. MLB should force Angels to wear purple or brown.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • 5Aces 5Aces Dec 5,2019 12:49 pm || Up

        I’m a fan of powder blue done right. This is not done right.

        And yet it is the best thing I saw. Now that the Padres are back in brown I think the Rangers may be the most awful uniform set in MLB.

        edit-I orgiginally added generic, but a lot of things like their font, etc are certainly not generic-just bad.

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 5,2019 3:04 pm || Up

          As Paul Lukas points out, they kept the bad font on most of the jerseys, but changed the player name and numbers on the back to a sort of drop shadow, while keeping the old outline on the front. Bizarre.

          • Soaker Soaker Dec 5,2019 5:49 pm || Up

            Using the “TX” USPS abbreviation on that alternate logo is lame, though maybe not quite as lame as certain sports franchises that use an airport code on their uniform. As he also points out, putting the little star in that logo in the vicinity of San Angelo rather than Dallas-Fort Worth makes it even worse.

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            • 5Aces 5Aces Dec 6,2019 9:06 am || Up

              “And that’s how we became the Grape Creek Rangers!”

              Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  14. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 4,2019 3:39 pm
  15. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 5,2019 12:39 pm

    I’ve given up saying things can’t possibly get any weirder. Still though…

    https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/07/30/04/18710839/4/480×480.jpg

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  16. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 5,2019 6:45 pm

    Wait, Pom Pom got 4 years, $34 million??

  17. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 6,2019 10:58 am

    I can’t really argue against any of the moves the Rays make from baseball and budget/window management standpoint, but it is pretty amazing how completely liberated they are from caring about fan reactions at all.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 6,2019 12:19 pm || Up

      Yeah, tell those hosers at Tim Hortons to take off!

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 6,2019 1:01 pm || Up

        They are still purporting to be all in on the Montreal split fantasy:

        Times: Would Stu get frustrated and just sell the team instead of going through with all this?

        Silverman: “We don’t want to think about the possibilities if we can’t figure out a way to get this sister city thing done.”

        Times: So I assume that would be the same answer as to whether Stu would move the franchise in 2028?

        Auld: “We are laser focused on making this happen. And we really haven’t asked Stu what the alternatives are. We don’t talk about leaving town. We don’t talk about selling. We all love our jobs. We love this team. We love baseball. We want to figure out a way to keep doing it.”

        • dmoas Dec 6,2019 4:07 pm || Up

          The whole notion that they’d get two stadiums built to be shared is idiotic when you can’t even get one stadium built.

  18. Future Ed Future Ed Dec 7,2019 8:28 am

    Bourenmouth should be relegated for the camera angle alone

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    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 7,2019 10:01 am || Up

      Apparently UCSB is still alive and kicking in the NCAA tournament, only unranked team left, playing in the quarterfinals later today vs Wake Forest.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  19. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 7,2019 5:26 pm
    • Future Ed Future Ed Dec 7,2019 11:19 pm || Up

      $325 claim for moisturizer

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • AV AV Dec 9,2019 9:05 am || Up

        those nose cancelling headphones aren’t working!!

        i’m gonna run emily litella jokes into the ground.

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • colin colin Dec 9,2019 9:17 am || Up

      False flag! They are just trying to generate fodder for the “California is a lawless hellhole” narrative. I’m only sort of kidding.

      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 9,2019 9:27 am || Up

        Then they are half assing. Even her inflated figure was less than 10% of what A-Rod lost.

      • Future Ed Future Ed Dec 9,2019 5:08 pm || Up

        lawless? not when the SLA is running the DAs office

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 9,2019 5:15 pm || Up

          Don’t blame me. I voted for Patty Hearst.

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