Gumdrop & Spider; Charlie brown & Snoopy; Columbia & Eagle ← FREE KRAUT!

Gumdrop & Spider; Charlie brown & Snoopy; Columbia & Eagle 137

I am not expecting much from this series, we may see a no hitter or 2.

Bailey v Cole
Fiers v Miley
Bassitt v Verlander (11AM game)

137 thoughts on “Gumdrop & Spider; Charlie brown & Snoopy; Columbia & Eagle

  1. Future Ed Jul 22,2019 5:56 pm

    I don’t care for Bailey’s pitching, but I dig his demeanor

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  2. FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 22,2019 6:07 pm

    More d’oh than whoo hoo tonight.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Soaker Jul 22,2019 6:08 pm || Up

      I’m thinking more of Sarge screaming at Beetle.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  3. Future Ed Jul 22,2019 6:10 pm

    better get hendriks up

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  4. Soaker Jul 22,2019 6:12 pm

    SchlitterExp pretty much at 100%.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  5. Future Ed Jul 22,2019 6:21 pm

    I like the idea of icing cole

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  6. Glorious Mundy Jul 22,2019 6:28 pm

    OK let’s see how bad this can get.

    • Soaker Jul 22,2019 6:31 pm || Up

      That horrifying 22-9 loss at Yankee Stadium a couple months into the Melvin Era is the worst. 18 is the highest since then.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • Soaker Jul 22,2019 6:39 pm || Up

        The 10 highest since 2000:
        22 – referred to above
        18 – 3 times
        17 – 2 times, including Wild Alcoholic Dreams
        16 – 4 times

        What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
        • Soaker Jul 23,2019 7:54 am || Up

          So the A’s have given up at least 16 10 times in just about 20 full seasons, which is over 3000 games.

          The Orioles gave up at least 16 4 times in their final 54 games in 2018, and have done it 4 times in 99 games this season, so 8 in their last 153 games.

          What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
          • Soaker Aug 10,2019 6:54 pm || Up

            Now 9 times in the last 170 games for the Orioles. Aaron Brooks contributes to the cause tonight with a 3 IP, 9 H including 4 HR, 9 R start against the Astros.

            What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • Glorious Mundy Jul 22,2019 6:43 pm || Up

        The pitchers in that game (runs allowed):

        Rich Harden (6)
        Craig Breslow (1)
        Fautino de los Santos (3)
        Jordan Norberto (4)
        Bruce Billings (7)
        Brian Fuentes (1)

        Amazingly, the A’s led that game 7-1 at one point.

        • Future Ed Jul 22,2019 6:54 pm || Up

          norberto was good then got suspended?

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • 5Aces Jul 23,2019 8:39 am || Up

            Didnt he get hurt before suspension? I think he was the one who pitched to like 2-3 batters throwing like 70, got them out and had to get pulled from the game.

            Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
            • Soaker Jul 23,2019 9:42 am || Up

              That looks like the story. The A’s DFA’d him after he had supposedly recovered from an elbow injury, but he had TJ surgery shortly thereafter; don’t know what happened with his grievance. While he was recovering from the TJ he got a 50-game suspension related to the Biogenesis thing in Miami. He briefly pitched in the Rays’ minor league system and then in Japan for a while.

              Edit: I guess he hasn’t given up.

              What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
              • Future Ed Jul 23,2019 10:26 am || Up

                does the ACA cover tommy john?

                I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • Soaker Jul 23,2019 10:40 am || Up

                  Notice how Andrews is giving the perfunctory thumbs up but his facial expression says, “This one is toast.”

                  What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  7. lenscrafters Jul 22,2019 6:30 pm

    Why is this AAA trash even on the roster? Pretty ridiculous that Wendelken was sent down instead of this guy.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 22,2019 6:52 pm || Up

      Derek Holland is cheap and available.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Soaker Jul 22,2019 7:04 pm || Up

      The usual thing is a guy like Schlitter throwing 80 pitches and then getting sent down. He would have to be DFA’d to get him off the 25-man roster. I doubt there would be too much trouble with getting him through waivers though.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • Future Ed Jul 22,2019 7:11 pm || Up

        I was just thinking, it must suck to know that if a starter gets shelled and you come in, you are losing your $20,000 paycheck

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
  8. Future Ed Jul 22,2019 6:42 pm

    If that was overturned, we should boycott baseball

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  9. FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 22,2019 6:54 pm

    On this road trip Fosse has seemed even more vacuous than usual.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  10. Future Ed Jul 22,2019 7:36 pm

    6 more merciful outs please

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  11. Future Ed Jul 22,2019 7:57 pm

    would anyone miss the bottom of the 8th?

    related, how many ABs did babe ruth miss out on because he was on a team that won a lot?

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  12. andeux Jul 23,2019 12:14 pm
    TINSTAAFK
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 23,2019 5:35 pm || Up

      To all fields indeed.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  13. lenscrafters Jul 23,2019 5:14 pm

    Inspiring start.

  14. Glorious Mundy Jul 23,2019 5:37 pm

    We need to find the Ron Washington for centerfielders. Kotsay? Coco?

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 23,2019 5:38 pm || Up

      Argh.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  15. FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 23,2019 5:59 pm

    Man they didn’t give Fiers a lot of rest time between innings

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  16. Glorious Mundy Jul 23,2019 6:19 pm

    Perfect game definitely in play here.

    • Future Ed Jul 23,2019 6:19 pm || Up

      miley was not to pitcher I worried about

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    • Future Ed Jul 23,2019 6:20 pm || Up

      I’ll consider it a win if the A’s get 6 hits this series. I will accept 5

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  17. Glorious Mundy Jul 23,2019 7:06 pm

    Laureano lawndart

  18. Glorious Mundy Jul 23,2019 7:22 pm

    Eat shit Osuna

    • Glorious Mundy Jul 23,2019 7:25 pm || Up

      Miley may not have had anything left, but Olson had to feel pretty good about Hinch pulling the lefty for him.

  19. Glorious Mundy Jul 23,2019 7:29 pm

    I’m expecting this bottom of the ninth to be an adventure.

  20. Glorious Mundy Jul 23,2019 7:34 pm

    This would be a good time for a classic Reddick GIDP helmet slam.

  21. andeux Jul 23,2019 7:35 pm

    Shit, neither of those balls was even hit that well.

    TINSTAAFK
  22. lenscrafters Jul 23,2019 7:35 pm

    Soria is trash.

    • Glorious Mundy Jul 23,2019 7:45 pm || Up

      Treinen or Trivino for the 10th?

      • Glorious Mundy Jul 23,2019 7:50 pm || Up

        Nope. But at least one of them is going to have to perform if we’re going to win this game.

  23. lenscrafters Jul 23,2019 7:43 pm

    Has Bob realized that Phegley has gone back to being unplayable against RHP?

  24. Glorious Mundy Jul 23,2019 7:47 pm

    You know, the more of these performances Fiers piles up, the sillier it seems that he didn’t start the wild card game.

  25. FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 23,2019 7:56 pm

    Ok now I vote Petit for 2 inning setup man every day.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  26. lenscrafters Jul 23,2019 8:07 pm

    I fking love Ramon

  27. Glorious Mundy Jul 23,2019 8:09 pm

    That ball wasn’t stuck. It just stopped rolling.

  28. FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 23,2019 8:09 pm

    What the ever loving fuck?

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  29. lenscrafters Jul 23,2019 8:10 pm

    Ah yes replay and arcane baseball rules fucking the A’s over.

  30. FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 23,2019 8:10 pm

    Unless there is some specific Houston ground rule that calls that a dead ball that is incredible bullshit. That kind of odd padding stick happens all the time.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Soaker Jul 23,2019 8:21 pm || Up

      5.05 When the Batter Becomes a Runner
      (a) The batter becomes a runner when:

      (7) Any fair ball which, either before or after touching the ground, passes through or under a fence, or through or under a scoreboard, or through any opening in the fence or scoreboard, or through or under shrubbery, or vines on the fence, or which sticks in a fence or scoreboard, in which case the batter and the runners shall be entitled to two bases

      The definition of “sticking” is pretty generous, and that’s usually the way I’ve seen it called.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • Future Ed Jul 23,2019 8:22 pm || Up

        I have never seen it applied this way that I can remember

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        • Glorious Mundy Jul 23,2019 8:24 pm || Up

          There was clearly air between the ball and the scoreboard, and Reddick had no trouble picking up the ball. It’s a ridiculous interpretation.

          • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 23,2019 8:28 pm || Up

            Agreed. I’ll guess I’ve seen that kind of ball/wall play 40 or 50 times in my life and not once have I seen it called a ground rule double.

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • lenscrafters Jul 23,2019 8:29 pm || Up

            Yup it’s such bullshit.

      • andeux Jul 23,2019 8:25 pm || Up
        TINSTAAFK
        • Future Ed Jul 23,2019 8:27 pm || Up

          funny, because had it on at bat here, the kid likes to give me play by play, then he said, “what, is cespedes the umpire?”

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • Future Ed Jul 23,2019 8:51 pm || Up

        two bases from where?

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
  31. 5Aces Jul 23,2019 8:14 pm

    At least I got to use horseshit today.

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  32. lenscrafters Jul 23,2019 8:25 pm

    Thanks Yusmeiro.

  33. Future Ed Jul 23,2019 8:25 pm

    justice served.

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  34. FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 23,2019 8:25 pm

    Nice win, fellows!

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  35. FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 23,2019 8:35 pm

    Wow, Olsen was 0 for 17 against Houston this year until the homer.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Future Ed Jul 23,2019 8:41 pm || Up

      you clearly were not listening to vince

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  36. Glorious Mundy Jul 23,2019 8:44 pm

    I’m realizing that the Twins bullpen has a Taylor, a Tyler, a Trevor, a Kohl, a Ryne, and a Blake in it. That is some serious whiteness.

  37. lenscrafters Jul 23,2019 9:13 pm

    Bring him up

  38. AV Jul 24,2019 10:08 am

    my twitter: THIS SCHIFF GETTING REAL!!!

    clerk at the liquor store with cspan feed on TV where they usually have NFL drafts and such on instead: i just can’t believe they’re still wasting money on this. how long are they going to keep it going and going?

    yeah. one of these worlds is not penetrating the other.

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  39. Soaker Jul 24,2019 11:18 am

    If they had the right scouting report on Bassitt the roof would be open anyway.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  40. andeux Jul 24,2019 11:49 am

    Since June 18 (his last HR) Khris had exactly 100 PA coming into today.
    .189/.270/.211.
    Not only no homers, but only 2 doubles in that stretch.
    24% K rate in that stretch is normal (or if anything a bit low) for him.
    9% BB rate is also normal.
    Even taking into account that he was hurt for part of that time, wouldn’t you expect him to guess right and hit a ball hard more often than that?

    TINSTAAFK
    • Soaker Jul 24,2019 12:34 pm || Up

      I don’t see a way to narrow down the dates (maybe from someplace other than Fangraphs?) but I suspect almost none of the red dots on the right side have come since he hurt the ribs early on.


      Source: FanGraphs

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • Glorious Mundy Jul 24,2019 12:52 pm || Up

      Looking only at the full season numbers on Fangraphs (because I don’t know how to break them down by date), it looks like the culprit may just be that he isn’t hitting the ball in the air. Hit hard hit rate is above his career numbers, but his fly ball rate is way down.

  41. lenscrafters Jul 24,2019 12:18 pm

    Bassitt’s lack of quality secondary offerings on full display this inning. It’s why he’s so poor against hitters with two strikes and after his first time through the order.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 24,2019 12:50 pm || Up

      Surely he and the A’s realize this. Why not teach him a cutter?

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  42. Glorious Mundy Jul 24,2019 12:44 pm

    I’m trying to figure out what happened with the Red Sox playing under protest today, and all can gather is that the Rays did some Rays shit and Angel Hernandez was involved.

    • andeux Jul 24,2019 1:24 pm || Up

      https://www.mlb.com/news/red-sox-protest-loss-to-rays-over-substitutions

      The controversy stemmed from Rays manager Kevin Cash moving lefty Adam Kolarek from the mound to first base after getting the first out of the [8th] inning, and then bringing him back to the mound to pitch against Rafael Devers with two outs. The confusion was over lineup placement. The official announcement was that Kolarek went into the third spot in the batting order — which was occupied by designated hitter Austin Meadows. And Nate Lowe, who replaced him at first base, was in the ninth spot.

      There were several lengthy delays as the umpires tried to sort out the situation.

      The announcement from the press box was that Boston’s protest was due to the placement of the substitutions in the lineup following the removal of the DH.

      TINSTAAFK
    • andeux Jul 24,2019 1:35 pm || Up

      So Kolarek comes in as a reliever in the top of the 8th.
      Kolarek pitches to one batter.
      Then Roe comes in, and they move Kolarek to 1B. This means they also lose the DH.
      So one of Kolarek/Roe is now batting 3rd, where DH had been, and the other is batting 9th, where 1B had been (after some earlier moves).
      Roe pitches to one batter.
      Then Nate Lowe comes in for Roe, to play 1B, and Kolarek moves back to pitcher (and gets the final out).

      In the bottom of the inning, that 3rd spot is due up. Willie Adames PH for Kolarek.
      So it seems like the question is which of Kolarek and Roe should originally have been in the 3rd spot and which in the 9th spot.
      Adames struck out anyway, which Lowe (or for that matter either of the pitchers) could also just as well have done, but I guess that doesn’t affect the merits of the protest.

      TINSTAAFK
      • dmoas Jul 24,2019 1:40 pm || Up

        If they happened at the same time, I’d imagine that the Rays could put whomever they wanted in either spot. So I’d hope they weren’t trying to protest that. At which point, it’s a matter of what was discussed with Ump taking precedence of whatever poor communication came anywhere else.

        • Glorious Mundy Jul 24,2019 1:43 pm || Up

          I guess that’s where our friend Angel comes in.

          • andeux Jul 24,2019 1:52 pm || Up

            No doubt Angel screwed up the communication somehow, but thinking about this more, I think the choice of which player ends up in which spot is not arbitrary, and they actually got it right:
            Kolarek and Choi (who had been at 1B) were on the field at the same time. So it wouldn’t make sense for Kolarek to eventually end up in Choi’s spot in the batting order. He was logically already in the 3rd slot, just with someone else DH’ing for him. Then when Roe comes in, he replaces Choi in the lineup, while Kolarek, instead of the DH, is now required to bat in the 3rd slot.

            TINSTAAFK
            • dmoas Jul 24,2019 2:22 pm || Up

              From reading about it, Angel shat the bed on that. He didn’t request Cash to specify who was where in the line up and didn’t force the DH to be removed when the pitcher moved to first. So he basically made an unnecessary mess of things. I don’t think the protest should merit anything except maybe Angel being fired. But that’s only because Angel should be fired regardless.

            • dmoas Jul 24,2019 2:26 pm || Up

              The problem is the DH doesn’t get vacated until the simultaneous moves are made so I don’t necessarily think the new pitcher is the one that has to go into the DH spot. He would if he were the only act being made on the line up, but it’s not much different than a double switch or multiple replacements being added at the same time. Since both the DH and first baseman leave at the same time, you can insert the pitcher in the first base slot and the new first baseman in the DH slot or vice versa.

  43. Glorious Mundy Jul 24,2019 12:47 pm

    Vince with the amazing fact that Profar hasn’t been caught stealing since April 2017.

  44. lenscrafters Jul 24,2019 1:55 pm

    They’re approaching the trade deadline with the same needs they had at the beginning of the offseason: 2 quality starters, a backend reliever, 2B, C, and LF.

    • Soaker Jul 24,2019 2:15 pm || Up

      A long list to try to fill right now when the realistic upside this season is the wild card game and the likely solution would be overpaying for band-aids like Rodney and Familia.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • Soaker Jul 24,2019 5:45 pm || Up

        Was just looking at Cot’s and didn’t realize the Mets spent as much as they did to bring Familia back. Ouch.

        What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • Future Ed Jul 24,2019 2:21 pm || Up

      given the wild card is the only realistic playoff goal, I don’t see any reason to spend too much on any of these things.

      I think standard reliever upgrade to be attainable, but I don’t see a quality starter or catcher being in the cards. Don’t know what was wrong with maldenado before the season started.

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • 5Aces Jul 24,2019 2:27 pm || Up

        I think they will rely on on the same things they were hoping for coming in-the pitchers coming back will fill those gaps, Murphy maybe shows up and makes a splash, and the 2B and LF dreck will survive. And dont give up any “good assets” that would help in 2020.

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
      • dmoas Jul 24,2019 2:29 pm || Up

        I’d guess they assumed WC was a stretch and their peak so they didn’t prioritize fixing things they felt they’d have on the roster next season. Which is kind of dumb, but it’s not quite as bad as being played out. But from the looks of it, the starter issue I think you overpay in trade or FA, so much so that they shrugged at it.

      • Glorious Mundy Jul 24,2019 2:29 pm || Up

        I think you have to do something just to reward the good players for having the team in it, keep morale up and such by upgrading the schlittiest roster spots. But no reason to give up any good prospects unless you are getting someone under control for another couple of years.

      • Glorious Mundy Jul 24,2019 5:03 pm || Up

        Slusser is on the twitter saying don’t count the A’s out for Syndegaard, so who knows.

        • Future Ed Jul 24,2019 5:14 pm || Up

          is he in the walk year?

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • MikeV Jul 24,2019 5:55 pm || Up

          lol bullshit.

          And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

          Thanks, and go As.

      • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 24,2019 7:14 pm || Up

        And I’d add that after this road trip, while the A’s are clearly serious WC contenders, it’s very hard to imagine any scenario where the get past Houston or NYY in the playoffs.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • MikeV Jul 24,2019 7:49 pm || Up

          What they really need is another offseason of massively underwhelming low end free agent additions.

          And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

          Thanks, and go As.

          • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 24,2019 10:48 pm || Up

            It’s good to set achievable goals.

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • DFA Jul 25,2019 3:37 pm || Up

      Would you trade Luzardo Mateo and Dunshee for Syndergaard?

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
      • lenscrafters Jul 25,2019 6:25 pm || Up

        I would need a secondary piece (Diaz) as I’m not convinced on Syndergaard’s health and performance this year.

        • DFA Jul 25,2019 6:54 pm || Up

          that would be awfully light for Syndergaard and Diaz no?

          In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
          • lenscrafters Jul 25,2019 8:55 pm || Up

            Watching the deficiencies of this team get reaffirmed by today’s game has turned me against blowing up the farm for a trade like this.

            • DFA Jul 25,2019 9:16 pm || Up

              I mean the injury risk on Luzardo makes me want to trade him

              In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
              • MikeV Jul 29,2019 8:20 am || Up

                rather than Puk who is barely 2 years younger than Thor?

                And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

                Thanks, and go As.

                • DFA Jul 29,2019 10:09 am || Up

                  Puk doesn’t have the injury history of Luzardo

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
  45. FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 24,2019 4:42 pm
    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  46. andeux Jul 24,2019 10:11 pm

    Hundley D’dFA.
    T. Anderson sent back down (with B. Anderson presumably to come off paternity list).

    TINSTAAFK
    • Soaker Jul 25,2019 9:08 am || Up

      Need a third catcher for the suspended game. Grossman has already pinch-hit for Phegley and Hundley is now in the lineup.

      So right now 39 on the 40-man roster, and they could also call up Triggs and put him on the 60-day IL to create a second opening.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • Glorious Mundy Jul 25,2019 9:22 am || Up

        Shouldn’t be a problem with the 28-man active roster. Ideally, Murphy has a healthy August and spends September getting comfy in the big leagues (no reason not to put him on the 40-man to let him get ready for 2020). If not, Beau Taylor.

        • Soaker Jul 25,2019 9:33 am || Up

          Oh sure, they will have two available catchers in that game, Herrmann and whoever the Sept. 1 addition is. Murphy’s season has been such a lost one, I’d think he would be more likely to go to AZ Fall League after the Aviators are done.

          What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • Future Ed Jul 25,2019 10:24 am || Up

        isn’t hermann the go to

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
  47. MikeV Jul 25,2019 10:17 am
    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

    • Soaker Jul 25,2019 10:36 am || Up

      I saw the article and thought the conclusion was odd; not sure where “adding a right-handed hitting outfielder” ranks on the list right now, but not high.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • Glorious Mundy Jul 25,2019 11:03 am || Up

        Maybe if we found out KD is still injured and Piscotty’s knee isn’t recovering as quickly as hoped. Otherwise, it’s hard to see it.

  48. Glorious Mundy Jul 25,2019 10:27 am

    Qualified immunity doctrine is a scourge.

    Judge Berzon’s dissent is good. It would be nice if, say, Justice Gorsuch were to read it and see an opportunity to do some good in the world.

    • dmoas Jul 25,2019 11:25 am || Up

      Good luck with that.

      • Glorious Mundy Jul 25,2019 11:59 am || Up

        I’m obviously not expecting that to happen, but if there is ever a fact pattern that could lead a conservative with a supposed libertarian bent to rein in qualified immunity a bit, it’s the one where the cops rendered an innocent woman’s house unlivable trying to smoke out a fugitive who wasn’t there and said that was ok because she gave them permission to go inside under threat of arrest.

        • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 25,2019 12:09 pm || Up

          Remember when being conservative was generally understood to include reining in the state to the minimum level? Feels like a totally different universe now.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Glorious Mundy Sep 6,2019 10:34 am || Up

      Ninth Circuit again: Qualified Immunity affirmed for Fresno cops who straight up stole $100,000 in cash and $125,000 in rare coins during a search because the homeowner “did not have a clearly established Fourth or Fourteenth Amendment right to be free from the theft of property seized pursuant to a warrant.”

      • dmoas Sep 6,2019 10:54 am || Up

        What the fuck does that even mean?

        • Glorious Mundy Sep 6,2019 11:02 am || Up

          It means you can’t sue the cops, and by extension the city, for stealing your shit while they execute a warrant on your property because it wasn’t “clearly established” that stealing your shit while executing a warrant violates your constitutional rights.

          Basically, qualified immunity lets the cops get cases dismissed with a George Costanza “was that wrong? should I not have done that?” defense unless there was, at the time they screwed you, a circuit court case in that circuit or a Supreme Court case clearly saying that their obviously bad conduct (the panel here takes pains to say the cops’ actions were “morally reprehensible”) violated the fourth amendment. And most of the time, that magic case won’t exist because the issue never gets that far.

          • dmoas Sep 6,2019 3:59 pm || Up

            I got that part. That’s basically an unnecessarily, overly complicated way of saying they’re allowed to violate your rights and literally break the law by stealing from you because “reasons.” Which begs the question “What the fuck does that even mean?” Sigh.

      • Future Ed Sep 6,2019 11:38 am || Up

        but liberal san francisco

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • Glorious Mundy May 18,2020 12:24 pm || Up

        Sigh…

  49. Glorious Mundy Jul 25,2019 5:54 pm

    Tough to tell for sure from pictures, but the Heritage Night t-shirts this year look way, way better than usual. The Jewish night Kenny Holtzman shirsey might be a must-have.

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