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If the first game of a series starts at 10 am on a Thursday, and isn’t on TV, does it make a sound?

88 thoughts on “Detroit. Change the luck again, but in the other direction.

  1. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade May 16,2019 10:42 am

    And the Wednesday off day was weird, only one all year except the All-Star break.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy May 16,2019 10:49 am || Up

      Just wait until we get to the Friday off days.

    • Soaker Soaker May 16,2019 12:51 pm || Up

      Who knows if this had any impact today but I thought it was odd that the Tigers went with a day game today, considering that they played a night game last night (and faced Verlander at that) while the visiting team had an off day.

      The Tigers have 13 home games on Thursdays this year and 12 of them have 1:10 local time starts, so maybe it’s a marketing thing for them. Most of those are the final game of a series, though, not the first game.

  2. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy May 16,2019 11:22 am

    Profar grand slam!

  3. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy May 16,2019 11:25 am

    Townsend/Fosse radio booth right now…

  4. Future Ed Future Ed May 16,2019 11:31 am

    no tv and townsend on the radio?

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  5. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade May 16,2019 11:34 am

    Orange and black are objectively the most hideous color scheme in sport.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  6. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy May 16,2019 11:35 am

    Six runs, one earned for the Tigers’ starter, who, as mentioned above, gave up a grand slam.

    ERA is a fraud.

  7. 5Aces 5Aces May 16,2019 11:45 am

    GM to create all good luck threads from now on.

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • Future Ed Future Ed May 16,2019 12:06 pm || Up

      I thought about asking questions like “is phegley now good? Has jurickson turned it around? How great is it that olson hits off lefties?”

      But…meh

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  8. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade May 16,2019 12:08 pm

    Phegley making a bid to screw Chapman out of the A’s requisite one All-Star spot.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Soaker Soaker May 16,2019 12:18 pm || Up

      The Pride of Terre Haute has returned to terrorize the Rust Belt.

      I’ve only been to Terre Haute one time, probably for no more than a couple hours, but it made an indelible impression as the bleakest town of that size I’ve ever been to in America.

      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade May 16,2019 12:52 pm || Up

        ASG is in Cleveland this year…

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Future Ed Future Ed May 16,2019 12:19 pm || Up

      Marcus doesn’t like your tone

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  9. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy May 16,2019 12:08 pm

    Townsend does play-by-play like the game action is just an occasional interlude during his talk show. We don’t need your hot takes right now, chicken-pie man.

    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy May 16,2019 1:22 pm || Up

      He referred to base hits as “bay hees.” Bill King would have thrown up on the spot.

  10. lenscrafters May 16,2019 12:33 pm

    Well hopefully they don’t crash like they did after that first Pirates game.

    • Soaker Soaker May 16,2019 1:06 pm || Up

      Field goal doesn’t mean much there but the Lions coach wanted to avoid the shutout.

      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade May 16,2019 1:54 pm || Up

        A bullpen-safe lead!

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • dmoas May 16,2019 2:08 pm || Up

        And yet the Rangers win by a greater deficit.

  11. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade May 16,2019 1:56 pm
    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  12. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade May 16,2019 7:35 pm

    I will be out of cell signal range when the Preakness runs Saturday, thus depriving you of my progressively more inebriated comments on race day. But I will be putting some bets down ahead of time. Not sure of my ticket yet, but I am liking #12 Anothertwistoffate quite a lot. Hoping his price goes up from the 6-1 morning line.

    The Preakness is traditionally the chalkiest of the Triple Crown races but I think this year might be different. All of the top four Kentucky Derby finishers passed. The morning line favorite Improbable is 0-for-3 in 2019.The second choice Win Win Win has a late running style which has not traditionally been favored at Pimlico. Which leads me to Anothertwistoffate. Early speed but likely off a fast pace here, breaking from the outside…posts 1-4 have fared very poorly in the Preakness, excepting horses which totally outclass the field like California Chrome and Justify. There’s no horse like that in this field.

    And Anothertwistoffate is our local hero, trained and broke his maiden at Golden Gate Fields. I’ll have a win bet on him for sure, and probably an exacta ticket including him with Improbable, Bourbon War, and Signalman, maybe one more. I think this year’s Preakness could be a real money maker for someone…maybe me!

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Soaker Soaker May 16,2019 7:40 pm || Up

      I don’t know much about horse racing…but if “out of cell signal range” happens to mean the Sierra, we have had snow showers on and off all day and crappy weather is forecast into early next week.

      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade May 17,2019 7:54 am || Up

        FSU the Red knows rain, dear.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade May 20,2019 5:04 pm || Up

        We were in Yosemite Valley where it rained all Saturday night, which was fine, we were prepared and sheltered and it scared off a lot of the crowd. Then Sunday AM it got colder and turned to snow , really fat wet flakes that left an inch or so on ground and coated all the trees spectacularly. Then it was all gone by Sunday night. Great weekend.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • Soaker Soaker May 20,2019 5:28 pm || Up

          Yes, we have had white ground in the morning about 3 times in the last week but it melts by 10 a.m. I have a great attitude about bundling up and getting out and being active in December and January, when I’m tired of that I have a Hawaii trip scheduled as a break in February, but in late May I’m ready to be running around in shorts dammit.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade May 17,2019 2:44 pm || Up

      Bets in:

      $10 to Win on 12
      $2 Exacta 12,4 / 12,4,2,5,8 = $16
      $2 Trifecta 12 / 4 / 2,5,8 = $6

      12 Anothertwistoffate
      4 Improbable
      2 Bourbon War
      5 Owendale
      8 Signalman

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade May 20,2019 2:05 pm || Up

        Drat.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  13. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade May 16,2019 7:39 pm

    True Crime stories are all the rage these days. Fitting then to reflect back 33 years to the still-unsolved assassination of Swedish prime minister Olof Palme.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  14. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy May 17,2019 4:59 pm

    A fellow by the name of Jharel Cotton is starting tonight for Stockton.

  15. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy May 17,2019 5:03 pm

    The A’s and Tigers are wearing camo hats tonight because….something.

  16. Soaker Soaker May 17,2019 5:03 pm

    Through 4 innings Montas has the stuff and control of Felix Hernandez 10 years ago.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade May 17,2019 5:22 pm || Up

      Can a neck tattoo be far behind?

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Soaker Soaker May 17,2019 6:04 pm || Up

      I admit I was already thinking “perfect game” when I said that. 6 1-2-3 innings out of 7, on 81 pitches, is pretty damned good. The Tigers really can’t either hit or pitch right now; it’s a good weekend to be playing them.

  17. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy May 17,2019 5:29 pm

    Yikes. That was a terrible play in center.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade May 17,2019 5:32 pm || Up

      The A’s brought whatever infected Seattle’s defense over to afflict Detroit.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  18. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy May 17,2019 5:33 pm

    Playing the Tigers is fun.

  19. Soaker Soaker May 17,2019 5:33 pm

    23-4. The A’s are not helping the Tigers’ advance ticket sales very much.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade May 17,2019 5:39 pm || Up

      The ad behind the plate for Detroit Mercy takes on a different meaning.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  20. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade May 17,2019 5:45 pm

    I lack the customized search skills to confirm, but one internet rando claims the record for consecutive wins vs one team is from 1969-70, when the Orioles beat the Royals w23 straight times.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  21. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy May 17,2019 5:52 pm

    Upper deck homer for Kendrys in his first game as a Yankee.

  22. Soaker Soaker May 17,2019 6:40 pm

    Solution to the road woes seems to be to play the Tigers and Orioles more often.

  23. lenscrafters May 17,2019 8:52 pm

    Watching Montas highlights tonight and that high velocity + split change combo was very reminiscent of Rich Harden at his best. Him and Bassitt are strong building blocks if they can stay healthy.

  24. Soaker Soaker May 18,2019 10:19 am

    MLB is starting the domestic regular season on March 26 next year, the earliest ever. The international games plan calls for Opening Day to be in “Asia”, which could be Japan but might be Korea. Those games would probably be March 18-19.

    That means the final day of the regular season is September 27 and Game 7 of the 2020 World Series would be on October 28.

    If they pushed everything back one week, Game 6 of the World Series would be on Tuesday, November 3, when there’s an election scheduled.

  25. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy May 18,2019 12:47 pm

    It took the Rays about five minutes to fix Emilio Pagan.

  26. 5Aces 5Aces May 18,2019 1:56 pm

    @lc bilding blocks: and Mengden isnt a terrible #5 with a solid 1-4.

    I do think this is why we didnt go out and get real arms, but I still dont agree with it. We are counting on a lot of guys who have never proven anything for a consistent length of time.

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • dmoas May 18,2019 3:56 pm || Up

      You have to expect at least 50% won’t pan out into that 1 – 4 slot. So yeah, dumb not to fill it with real arms.

  27. Soaker Soaker May 18,2019 2:13 pm

    The called-strikes chart will be quite interesting today. Get it within 4 inches of the outside corner and the right arm is going up.

  28. Future Ed Future Ed May 19,2019 10:38 am

    miguel cabrera is an international treasure, and this is one of 2 ball parks were they a’s don’t trial by 5 after 1

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  29. Future Ed Future Ed May 19,2019 10:45 am

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • andeux andeux May 19,2019 11:24 am || Up

      I wasn’t going to say anything until he actually threw a pitch. There’s still a couple hours for him to break again.

      TINSTAAFK
      • Future Ed Future Ed May 19,2019 9:10 pm || Up

        2 ip, 1 k, 1 h, 1 r (hr). 22 pitches 17 strikes

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      • Future Ed Future Ed May 24,2019 6:47 pm || Up

        why he had to complete this game I don’t know

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
  30. Future Ed Future Ed May 19,2019 11:25 am

    chapman is very good at third basing

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  31. Future Ed Future Ed May 19,2019 11:29 am

    simien with a triple a nd a double. lets hope he gets a single or hime run in the next at bat to put the pressure on vince

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  32. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy May 19,2019 12:20 pm

    Townsend is painfully bad at PBP.

  33. andeux andeux May 19,2019 12:25 pm

    Mets swept by the Marlins, who were 10-31 coming into the series.

    TINSTAAFK
  34. andeux andeux May 19,2019 12:32 pm

    This is some bullshit.

    TINSTAAFK
    • Soaker Soaker May 19,2019 12:43 pm || Up

      It’s a suspended game under 7.02(a)(5). I don’t think the A’s would go back to Detroit to complete this. They’re going to wait several hours but if they can’t resume today they will likely pick it up from this point in Oakland on September 6.

      • Soaker Soaker May 19,2019 1:12 pm || Up

        I was thinking finishing it in Oakland would have to be worked out with the Commissioner’s Office but that is what’s specified in this situation under 7.02(b)(3)(A).

        7.02 Suspended, Postponed, and Tie Games
        (a) A game shall become a suspended game that must be completed at a future date if the game is terminated for any of the following reasons:

        (5) Weather, if a regulation game is called while an inning is in progress and before the inning is completed, and the visiting team has scored one or more runs to take the lead, and the home team has not retaken the lead

        (b) A suspended game shall be resumed and completed as follows:

        (3) If suspended on the last scheduled date between the two clubs in that city, transferred and played on the grounds of the opposing club, if possible;
        (A) Immediately preceding the next scheduled single game

      • Soaker Soaker May 19,2019 2:19 pm || Up

        At least they did not make them wait the “several hours”, and the A’s have a fresh bullpen going into Cleveland.

      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade May 23,2019 10:31 am || Up

        I was away when this happened. Last night one of my softball buddies filled me in. Did they really stop play after Hendricks had thrown four pitches, with no rain falling, just in anticipation of rain to come? Is that an accurate summary? If so that is fucking outrageous.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • andeux andeux May 23,2019 11:43 am || Up

          Yes. Maybe not literally no rain, possibly very light sprinkles, but far less than what would normally stop play.
          Our announcers said the groundskeeper had talked to the ump in between innings, and presumably had said that radar showed a big storm coming so they wanted to get the tarp on as soon as it started. As it turned out, real rain didn’t come for 10+ minutes so they probably could have gotten the half inning in.

          TINSTAAFK
          • Soaker Soaker May 23,2019 12:27 pm || Up

            The defense of the groundskeeper there is that those storm cells are often accompanied by sudden strong winds and the heavy tarp can become a dangerous flying object.

          • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade May 23,2019 1:29 pm || Up

            Such bullshit. I have never heard of that in the middle of play (between half-innungs, sure). I would have thought MLB had some guidelines against that, maybe with an imminent danger caveat.

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
            • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade May 23,2019 1:32 pm || Up

              If this happened to the Yankees on the road I am 100% sure new rules and a letter of apology would follow from MLB the next day.

              "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
              • Soaker Soaker May 23,2019 3:19 pm || Up

                Wait till the Yankees are victimized by 7.02(b)(4), which is the old “score reverts” rule that was reinstated a few years ago but only for the last scheduled regular-season game between two teams.

                (4) Any suspended game that has progressed far enough to become a regulation game, but which has not been completed prior to the last scheduled game between the two teams during the championship season shall become a called game, as follows:

                (A) If one team is ahead, the team that is ahead shall be declared the winner (unless the game is called while an inning is in progress and before the inning is completed, and the visiting team has scored one or more runs to take the lead, and the home team has not retaken the lead, in which case the score upon the completion of the last full inning shall stand for purposes of this Rule 7.02(b)(4); or

                (B) If the score is tied, the game shall be declared a “tie game” (unless the game is called while an inning is in progress and before the inning is completed, and the visiting team has scored one or more runs to tie the game, and the home team has not retied the game, in which case the score upon the completion of the last full inning shall stand for purposes of this Rule 7.02(b)(4).

                So it’s late September, the Yankees are playing the Red Sox at Fenway in the final scheduled game between the two teams that season. The score after 6 innings is Red Sox 3, Yankees 2. The Yankees score 4 runs in the top of the 7th to take a 6-3 lead. Sometime before the third out is recorded in the bottom of the 7th, the tarp is pulled out and the game cannot be resumed. Under (A), the four runs the Yankees scored are taken off the board and the final score is Red Sox 3, Yankees 2 in 6 innings.

                In this game, which had been delayed by rain at the start, the Cardinals led the Royals 2-1 after 8 innings. The Royals scored 3 runs in the top of the 9th to take a 4-2 lead and were still batting when the tarp had to be pulled. It was the last Royals-Cardinals game of the year so the umpires could have terminated the game and given St. Louis the 2-1 win. Instead, they had the teams wait 4 hours and 32 minutes. The game was resumed at 3:04 a.m., the Royals were retired without scoring further, the Cardinals went down 1-2-3 in the bottom of the 9th and the game ended at 3:14 a.m.

                • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade May 23,2019 4:29 pm || Up

                  I hadn’t realized they reinstated that old rule.

                  I still find it hard to believe that MLB doesn’t have guidelines on when to suspend play.

                  "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
                • Soaker Soaker May 23,2019 4:38 pm || Up

                  The original rule, which applied to all games, not just the final game of the season between the two teams, was changed after the (ahem) Yankees got screwed by it in 1978, having a game in which they had taken a 5-3 lead revert to a 3-0 Orioles victory.

                • Future Ed Future Ed May 23,2019 6:01 pm || Up

                  they won the division that year anyway, they didn’t need that game

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
            • dmoas May 23,2019 1:48 pm || Up

              I’ve seen in the middle of play, even in the middle of an AB, but never without warrant (like it actually coming down and making the game sloppy). Otherwise, like you said, they wait until the half inning.

          • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy May 23,2019 2:56 pm || Up

            I don’t understand why they suspended the game rather than trying to wait it out. The Tigers weren’t going anywhere, and the A’s had just about the shortest flight in MLB.

  35. Soaker Soaker May 19,2019 3:28 pm

    More fun with suspended game rules: Harrison was Hendriks’ first batter faced. Ordinarily Hendriks would have to pitch to the completion of that plate appearance, or the plate appearance of any pinch-hitter for Harrison.

    5.10(g) If the pitcher is replaced, the substitute pitcher shall pitch to the batter then at bat, or any substitute batter, until such batter is put out or reaches first base, or until the offensive team is put out, unless the substitute pitcher sustains injury or illness which, in the umpire-in-chief’s judgment, incapacitates him for further play as a pitcher.

    However, a comment in the suspended game rule provides that somebody else may take over as the A’s pitcher on September 6 with a 2-2 count on Harrison or his pinch-hitter.

    Rule 7.02(c) Comment: If immediately prior to the call of a suspended game, a substitute pitcher has been announced but has not retired the side or pitched until the batter becomes a base runner, such pitcher, when the suspended game is later resumed may, but is not required to start the resumed portion of the game. However, if he does not start he will be considered as having been substituted for and may not be used in that game.

    Also, for purposes of streaks, e.g. hitting streaks, anything than happens on September 6 will be considered to have happened in Game 48 on May 19. The reverted date also comes into play for such things as a team winning streak. The A’s have won their last 3 games. Say they win the next 6. That’s not a 9-game winning streak; it’s either a 10-game winning streak, or a 3-game streak, a loss and a 6-game streak, but we don’t find that out until September.

    • Future Ed Future Ed May 24,2019 6:31 pm || Up

      lets hope they win the next 16, then we have to wait to see if its a record

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  36. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy May 19,2019 4:00 pm

  37. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy May 19,2019 4:54 pm

    The A’s managed to fall from third place to fifth place today despite playing and not losing.

    • dmoas May 19,2019 6:02 pm || Up

      Nope. According to 7.02(c), per Soaker above, we don’t know that for sure.

      • Soaker Soaker May 19,2019 6:27 pm || Up

        Yes, in the future if you look up the standings at the close of play on May 19, 2019, the A’s will be either 23-25, tied with Texas in games back but ahead of the Rangers by a couple percentage points, or 22-26, 1/2 game behind Seattle in last place.

        Phegley has already been pinch-hit for in this game and perhaps Hundley will have been DFA’d by September. Murphy could be a September callup, and he could potentially make his MLB debut on September 6 by replacing Hundley in the May 19 game.

        • Future Ed Future Ed May 19,2019 8:38 pm || Up

          didn’t juan soto hit a home run a few weeks before his call up?

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy May 19,2019 6:53 pm || Up

        What am I supposed to tell my kids tonight when they ask me what place the A’s are in??

        • dmoas May 20,2019 8:04 am || Up

          Limbo. Forever in limbo.

          • dmoas May 20,2019 8:04 am || Up

            Alternatively, this is a good time to teach them about Shroedinger’s A’s.

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