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  1. dogs will hurt you, but cats kill
  2. Via Poppy, 2010 A’s Promo Sked
  3. I hotly anticipate watching this in all its glory

    Transcript
  4. 12/12 (though I did have to guess on a couple)
  5. I am starting to see what Twitter is good for (esp w/my new iPhone)
  6. Free shipping through Monday on some nice items
  7. I endorse this take
  8. I do not endorse the last sentence of this — at least not if he’s talking about the book (though I do see where he’s coming from). And having worked in both fields, I can firmly assert that i-bankers are far more evil than admen.
  9. It’s Log!
  10. A 1-year supply of FREE KRAUT! to whomever gets the titular reference without googling.

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211 thoughts on “Don’t you have any PRIDE?!? The Grill 012910

  1. monkeyball Jan 29,2010 4:09 pm
    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 29,2010 5:19 pm || Up

      Yay. Weurtz Weurtz Weurtz Weurtz Weurtz Weurtz Weurtz Weurtz Weurtz Weurtz Weurtz Weurtz Weurtz Weurtz Weurtz Weurtz Weurtz Weurtz Weurtz Weurtz is good at baseball.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • monkeyball Jan 29,2010 5:27 pm || Up

        McGuire McGuire McGuire McGuire McGuire McGuire McGuire McGuire McGuire McGuire McGuire McGuire McGuire McGuire McGuire McGuire McGuire McGuire McGuire McGuire McGuire

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        • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 29,2010 5:31 pm || Up

          Spelling Spelling Spelling Spelling Spelling Spelling Spelling Spelling Spelling Spelling Spelling Spelling Spelling Spelling Spelling

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • monkeyball Jan 29,2010 5:33 pm || Up

            you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
            • Leopold Bloom Jan 29,2010 6:10 pm || Up

              good horsey, good horsey, good horsey, good horsey, good horsey, good horsey, good horsey, good horsey, good horsey, good horsey, good horsey, good horsey, good horsey, good horsey, good horsey, good horsey, good horsey, good horsey, good horsey, good horsey, good horsey, good horsey, good horsey, good horsey, good horsey, good horsey, good horsey, good horsey, good horsey, good horsey, good horsey, good horsey

  2. monkeyball Jan 29,2010 4:10 pm
    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • mikeA Jan 29,2010 4:14 pm || Up

      replacing Everidge on the 40 man roster.

    • mikeA Jan 29,2010 4:23 pm || Up
      • monkeyball Jan 29,2010 4:27 pm || Up
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        • Poppy Poppy Jan 29,2010 4:31 pm || Up

          Stop that. I just copied the exact same link.

          This too, more for JY’s comment than for the actual pic.

          There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
          • monkeyball Jan 29,2010 4:33 pm || Up

            Zavada would be an *awesome* villain.

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          • monkeyball Jan 29,2010 4:35 pm || Up

            I’m not sure what the show would be called … but the Byrnes-Koch buddy show would definitely be Itches and Byrnes

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      • green star oakland Jan 29,2010 8:50 pm || Up

        What’s with all the “Byrnes can field” crap?

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • batgirl batgirl Jan 29,2010 9:40 pm || Up

        Oh heavens HE HAS A CLOTHING LINE!!???!! Speaking as someone who has worked her ass off for 12 years running a start-up garment company, I think I’m gonna barf.

        • Poppy Poppy Jan 30,2010 7:58 am || Up

          He just wants people to be excited about running into walls!

          There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
  3. Poppy Poppy Jan 29,2010 4:11 pm

    3. Already heard speech, listening to Q&A right now.
    4. 11/12. Close enough, gimme my diploma.
    9. Bwahahaha!

    There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
    • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 29,2010 5:24 pm || Up

      Re 4: me too. Got the war casualties question wrong.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • monkeyball Jan 29,2010 5:29 pm || Up

        I guessed on that, but figured they wouldn’t be asking if it wasn’t counterintuitive.

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        • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 29,2010 5:31 pm || Up

          I had the same thought, but I was a step ahead or behind myself.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • Poppy Poppy Jan 29,2010 5:46 pm || Up

        I got the Dow wrong because it’s like stats… I hear/read it, I go “Oh.” or sometimes even “That’s interesting.”, and I forget it almost immediately. I don’t know why.

        There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
        • monkeyball Jan 29,2010 5:48 pm || Up

          < / monkeyball on defensive stats >

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    • Leopold Bloom Jan 29,2010 6:10 pm || Up

      11/12 too…got the oil consumption wrong…

    • the llama salb918 Jan 29,2010 6:14 pm || Up

      12/12. I made educated guesses on the oil and casualties question. Used the same counterintuitive logic mb suggested above.

  4. Poppy Poppy Jan 29,2010 4:14 pm

    This is sad. For real, I got a little teary.

    There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
  5. monkeyball Jan 29,2010 4:15 pm

    I love Louis CK, but I hate it when people talk about standup comedians like this

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  6. monkeyball Jan 29,2010 4:18 pm

    Hunh. #1 was supposed to be a link to a Balloon Juice post, but I missed the C&P, and now Balloon Juice is down.

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  7. monkeyball Jan 29,2010 4:22 pm

    Yglesiasmus interruptus:

    But this is the point.

    Well, that’s part of but not entirely the point — specifically, w/r/t the anecdote he just cited, that Chris Matthews didn’t seem to have the policy chops to dig deeper with Pence on the insurance regulation issue seems to me to be a larger problem than some random relatively powerless GOP team player being a dim-bulb/tool-of-industry.

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  8. monkeyball Jan 29,2010 4:24 pm
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    • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 29,2010 5:27 pm || Up

      Yeah, that’s pretty much an uncalled for subtitle.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  9. monkeyball Jan 29,2010 4:29 pm
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  10. andeux andeux Jan 29,2010 4:32 pm

    4. 12/12 (though I did have to guess on a couple)

    TINSTAAFK
  11. monkeyball Jan 29,2010 4:38 pm

    Me, mikeA — and now Mars

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    • mikeA Jan 29,2010 4:48 pm || Up

      It started to rain just as you posted that, as if proof of a lovingvengeful God.

      • andeux andeux Jan 29,2010 5:04 pm || Up

        fixed

        TINSTAAFK
        • monkeyball Jan 29,2010 5:20 pm || Up

          But if He were vengeful, wouldn’t He pour sunshine down upon me and mikeA?

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          • Leopold Bloom Jan 29,2010 6:11 pm || Up

            …giving you both cancer, to die a painful death.

  12. monkeyball Jan 29,2010 4:52 pm

    nm, mk: Ezra agrees with me.

    I’ve long felt the administration has done a poor job explaining that its health-care bill is an incremental, centrist compromise that resembles nothing so much as the Republican health-care bills proposed in the 1990s

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    • monkeyball Jan 29,2010 4:58 pm || Up

      Also, quasi-related: Obama is smarter than the people who work for him.

      Yesterday, I interviewed David Axelrod and was struck by his inability to explain how the White House would highlight the the difference between disagreement and obstruction.

      This is where I would actually (at least start to) agree with Andrew Sullivan’s Obama ~ Reagan / “let Obama be Obama” thesis.

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    • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 29,2010 5:26 pm || Up

      I disagree with Ezra too (and note that he’s as far from the target audience for that sentiment as anyone).

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  13. Poppy Poppy Jan 29,2010 5:14 pm

    Every time I see Eric Cantor’s smarmy little face, I just want to smack it. Even when it’s not saying anything. Just smack it for lookin’ smarmy.

    There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
  14. mikeA Jan 29,2010 5:17 pm

  15. mikeA Jan 29,2010 5:18 pm


  16. mikeA Jan 29,2010 5:18 pm

    …….

  17. nevermoor nevermoor Jan 29,2010 5:21 pm

    Re 6: You can buy that at the hippie store for about 1/2 that price. In whatever volume you want.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • monkeyball Jan 29,2010 5:26 pm || Up

      Some of it, yes, absolutely. That’s a nice price on the yeast and the big vat of Madagascar vanilla, though.

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  18. monkeyball Jan 29,2010 5:23 pm

    Niedermeyer — dead! HCR — dead! Emanuel — dead!

    (Jesus — I would link to Chait directly but for yet another inexplicable round of “We care what McMegan thinks!” And TNR’s inexcusably awful, wispy, unreadable font.)

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    • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 29,2010 5:34 pm || Up

      Yep. If we don’t get ‘er done I might devote my life to hacking FDL and stealing their credit card numbers (somehow, possibly using my MAGICAL FUCKING UNICORN) to use to mail poop to everyone in Washington.

      I still think Pelosi’ll pass the Senate bill if that’s what it comes down to though.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • monkeyball Jan 29,2010 5:42 pm || Up

        You should ask Grover Norquist for help.

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    • monkeyball Jan 29,2010 5:35 pm || Up

      I mean, did all the guys in that house sleep with her?

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  19. nevermoor nevermoor Jan 29,2010 5:29 pm

    Re 3: I think it was pretty rude of Obama to come to their lunch and berate them with his “gotcha” policy understanding. It’s pretty hard to be ignorant and rude when the guy is standing right there knowing more than you.

    The transcript is awesome enough without video.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • monkeyball Jan 29,2010 5:34 pm || Up

      All of them. Also.

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  20. monkeyball Jan 29,2010 5:48 pm

    This is truly awesome — but it’s bested by a single comment.

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    • the llama salb918 Jan 29,2010 6:17 pm || Up

      That comment is pretty hilarious.

      • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 29,2010 6:44 pm || Up

        Bastard. Linking to the only bad season.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  21. Poppy Poppy Jan 29,2010 6:19 pm

    This makes me really, really angry. My normal BP is inexplicably terrific considering that I’m fat and way too sedentary, but I can tell that BP’s up right now and my face & ears feel hot.

    The traveling members of Westboro Baptist Church stood on Arastradero Road to flay the most unlikely victims: school children already traumatized by the five recent suicides of Gunn-associated students.

    “You’ll be in front of the train next! God laughs at your calamity!” shouted Margie Phelps, wearing an American flag as a skirt.

    There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
    • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 29,2010 6:42 pm || Up

      There’s always more crazy.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • Leopold Bloom Jan 29,2010 6:54 pm || Up

        seriously, WTF?

        I understand conservative values. I don’t share them, but I understand wanting to protect the status quo and I understand buying into the idea of self-propulsion and all that goes with it.

        This…this is something entirely different. This is just mean and incredibly insensitive. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with these Kansas people?

        • the llama salb918 Jan 29,2010 7:19 pm || Up

          These people aren’t conservatives, or anything resembling it. They’re fucked up nutbags.

          Nice countersigns, though.

          • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 29,2010 7:24 pm || Up

            Right. I would go straight to evil. But you can’t use this as an attack on Conservatives, Republicans, or Christians (unless those groups endorse the behavior, which they haven’t)

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
            • the llama salb918 Jan 29,2010 8:01 pm || Up

              Indeed, Fred Phelps ran for office as a Democrat.

              • Leopold Bloom Jan 29,2010 8:12 pm || Up

                seriously?!

              • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 29,2010 8:12 pm || Up

                Which, by the same token, is not an attack on Democrats generally (he finished last every time).

                Certainly the fact that he got votes speaks poorly of those who voted for him. And, depending upon the way the Kansas Dems work, on them too.

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • Leopold Bloom Jan 29,2010 8:30 pm || Up

                  gee, and my opinion of Kansas was so high before.

              • monkeyball Jan 29,2010 8:48 pm || Up

                As did/does Lyndon LaRouche.

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          • Leopold Bloom Jan 29,2010 7:28 pm || Up

            Drink the kool aid already.

            good.

            • Poppy Poppy Jan 30,2010 8:15 am || Up

              Glib Kool-aid references bother me. Lots of traumatic shit got funneled into the collective Bay Area memory that month.

              There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
              • Leopold Bloom Jan 30,2010 9:46 am || Up

                Oh, yes. Mendocino Co., too…sry.

              • monkeyball Jan 30,2010 10:10 am || Up

                For the last time, IT WAS FLAVOR-AID!

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          • Poppy Poppy Jan 30,2010 8:17 am || Up

            In picture #5, does that person’s shirt say “Sweeds” at the bottom?

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          • andeux andeux Jan 30,2010 9:27 am || Up

            I’ve always liked God Hates Shrimp

            TINSTAAFK
            • monkeyball Jan 30,2010 10:11 am || Up

              So that’s why He makes him live in Boston.

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              • the llama salb918 Jan 30,2010 10:25 am || Up

                Speaking of Boston, anybody see the last 30 Rock?

                • Leopold Bloom Jan 30,2010 10:37 am || Up

                  were you in it?

                • whiteshoes40 Jan 30,2010 12:27 pm || Up

                  Yes. I’m sick of Julianne Moore, though. Her accent seems a tad ridiculous. (Not that I would know, having only been to Boston once.)

                • the llama salb918 Jan 30,2010 1:57 pm || Up

                  Yeah, her accent is overblown. But I love her character, and last week they took shot after shot at the parochial locals. I loved it.

                • andeux andeux Jan 30,2010 1:59 pm || Up

                  It made me think of my college days in Boston. Well, not in Boston, near Boston.

                  TINSTAAFK
                • the llama salb918 Jan 30,2010 2:07 pm || Up

                  No, not Tufts.

                • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 30,2010 2:33 pm || Up

                  Cambridge Community College?

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  22. Ice Cream Ice Cream Jan 30,2010 9:31 am

    Monkeys avoid long-winded chatter, preferring to keep it brief, a new study suggests.

    “The calls they used most often – greetings, grunts and coos – are really short. This is their everyday chatter, if you like. They keep it short and sweet. The ones that you hear very rarely – the screams and whines – are very long.”

    Sounds a lot like pre-schoolers to me.

    Where is the good in "good-bye"?
    • monkeyball Jan 30,2010 10:11 am || Up

      Explains my preference for Atrios over Glennzilla.

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  23. Leopold Bloom Jan 30,2010 1:11 pm

    I’ve been thinking…my time in the sign shop is probably limited. Here’s some ideas. I’m open to others. We should stock up while I have access.

    1
    2

    • the llama salb918 Jan 30,2010 1:56 pm || Up

      I’ll take one of each.

    • Leopold Bloom Jan 30,2010 3:32 pm || Up

      so they’re all lame, then?

      • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 30,2010 4:30 pm || Up

        My favorites are underdog and al.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • Poppy Poppy Jan 30,2010 4:55 pm || Up

        I’ll take a slap of awesome, please.

        There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 30,2010 4:45 pm || Up

      Those are exactly the size of the awesome tear-off coupon sheets they used to have…$40 got you like six free field level ticket coupons plus another 16 or so buy-one-get-ones. Haven’t seen those sheets for a couple of years; tremendous deal.

      I’d pay double if they had those messages on ’em. I’m especially fond of my city can beat up your city.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Leopold Bloom Jan 30,2010 8:12 pm || Up

        So if I make some of these, you people would like them?

        Magnets or bumper stickers?

        • Leopold Bloom Jan 30,2010 8:15 pm || Up

          btw, I tried to do this last spring for **, but the response (save a certain pere of perros) was nil.

          So…act excited about getting something free, god damn it.

          • batgirl batgirl Jan 30,2010 8:23 pm || Up

            I like “face it NY…” I think I like stickers the best. THX!!

          • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 30,2010 8:49 pm || Up

            Hey, if you want to do that I would absolutely be thrilled to have as many as you want to send.

            I would probably vote magnets.

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 30,2010 10:26 pm || Up

            Free? FREE? Fuck yeah! Whooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
            • Leopold Bloom Jan 30,2010 10:47 pm || Up

              Free’s good?

              Like I said, I’m open to other ideas if anyone has a good one.

              • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 31,2010 8:43 am || Up

                Take my ballpark…please!

                I’ve got your hidden value right here.

                "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
                • monkeyball Jan 31,2010 9:09 am || Up

                  Show me the Moneyball

                  Standing on the territory of Giants

                  Fuck Dionne Warwick

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                • Leopold Bloom Jan 31,2010 9:31 am || Up

                  Dionne Warwick?

                • monkeyball Jan 31,2010 9:38 am || Up
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                • Leopold Bloom Jan 31,2010 9:50 am || Up

                  ah. yes.

                • monkeyball Jan 31,2010 10:07 am || Up

                  (Saying Bacharach would have confused the issue.)

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                • Leopold Bloom Jan 31,2010 10:17 am || Up

                  but have been no less true.

              • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 31,2010 9:00 am || Up

                Moneyball doesn’t mean what you think it means.

                Black cleats are for losers.

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • monkeyball Jan 31,2010 9:14 am || Up

                  We root for laundry … and for loose change in the sofa

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                • batgirl batgirl Jan 31,2010 3:06 pm || Up

                  oooh, I love black cleats are for losers.

            • the llama salb918 Jan 31,2010 9:34 am || Up

              If they’re free, I’ll a lot more than one of each.

          • Poppy Poppy Jan 31,2010 10:48 am || Up

            I love free stuff! Almost as much as I love you, LB! {bats eyelashes}

            (I also like the “underdog” one…)

            There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
          • 5Aces 5Aces Feb 1,2010 7:20 am || Up

            Free makes it all the more awesome. Love them all-no preference on stickers or not.

            I like the underdog one-could we get a dog on it so it would be under said dog?

            Also, a set of jeans inside the red crossed out circle (which is always called the “no bozos” circle in these parts)…

            Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
            • monkeyball Feb 1,2010 9:33 am || Up

              Per mikeA, we don’t allow that sort of discriminatory language here.

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              • 5Aces 5Aces Feb 1,2010 11:06 am || Up

                I was just clowning around.

                Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • oblique Jan 31,2010 1:51 pm || Up

      I like all of them. A lot.

  24. mjdittmer Jan 30,2010 1:43 pm

    Awesome. No, it’s not Ratto, you assholes.

    • monkeyball Jan 30,2010 2:42 pm || Up

      Christ, what thaasophobia

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  25. nevermoor nevermoor Jan 30,2010 2:34 pm
    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • Poppy Poppy Jan 30,2010 2:48 pm || Up

      LOL

      There will be a middle ground in this fight, but it will be drenched in blood.

      There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
      • Ice Cream Ice Cream Jan 30,2010 5:11 pm || Up

        Chance? on the round! Chance? on the round!
        Lookin’ like a fool with your Chance? on the round!

        Where is the good in "good-bye"?
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 30,2010 4:53 pm || Up

      I like the circular Monopoly board. A lot. Both practically (the game is in fact a never-ending circle) and aesthetically. But the idea of credit cards instead of cash seems very wrong.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 30,2010 8:51 pm || Up

        I can’t imagine playing without getting to be banker. I also don’t like the new look house thing.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • 5Aces 5Aces Feb 1,2010 7:24 am || Up

          Having tried the credit card game once or twice, I agree. I like the idea, but in practice it took longer and you had to always remember to use the machine properly (once side was for credits, one for debits-you never had that issue when you were just handing over the money).

          Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • oblique Jan 31,2010 1:52 pm || Up

      Monopoly is dead. Long live Monopoly!

    • 5Aces 5Aces Feb 1,2010 7:25 am || Up

      Very torn here. As the owner of over a dozen monopoly games I am sure I will end up buying it, but this is just…wow.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  26. nevermoor nevermoor Jan 30,2010 2:36 pm

    Eric Martin wins political analysis.

    In addition to the China scaremongering, the National Review actually argues that cutting government spending in such a manner will, get this, lead to the loss of jobs. That government spending “creates jobs.”

    But…I…you…thought, ahh, forget it.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  27. Leopold Bloom Jan 30,2010 3:39 pm

    You know, I’m getting pretty sick of telling him that Johnny Damon doesn’t even play fiddle.

  28. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 30,2010 4:49 pm

    I’ve just finished season two of The Wire, and I’ve gotta say, so far I’m a lot closer to monkeyball’s view than I am Tim Goodman’s or any of the myriad others proclaiming it the best TV thing ever. It’s good, certainly much better than most TV fare, but so far I’m not getting the awesome. Too many simplistic lines delivered by one-dimensional characters.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Ice Cream Ice Cream Jan 30,2010 5:29 pm || Up

      I haven’t seen The Wire but if I know my Goodman (and I think I do), he tends to really like (and overhype) this kind of show. I think back to EZ Streets and how he really liked the show’s edginess, grittiness and characters with ambiguous morals. I remember being less than wowed.

      This was interesting from the Wikipedia entry:

      The series foreshadowed television crime dramas like HBO’s The Wire. EZ Streets is noted for its intricate plotting, “noir” themes, and depiction of the ambiguous nature (at times both brutal and touching) of its primary characters. It influenced many later shows from Lost (multi-layered storytelling) to The Sopranos (sympathetic mobsters) to Cold Case (cinematography).

      It’s knowing the reviewer that makes me properly skeptical of Mad Men.

      Where is the good in "good-bye"?
      • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 30,2010 8:52 pm || Up

        For what it’s worth, Goodman and I align pretty closely. He does, however, tend to attribute depth where there is simply darkness.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • monkeyball Jan 30,2010 9:42 pm || Up

          That’s a really nice phrase.

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    • mikeA Jan 30,2010 6:38 pm || Up

      very overrated.

      • Leopold Bloom Jan 30,2010 8:00 pm || Up

        I liked The Wire, but had it nowhere near my top two (Sopranos and Deadwood), before season four. Season four of The Wire was IMO amazing. I know not everyone feels that way.

        Realistically, The Wire still isn’t near those other two HBO shows. But all three are very good, and season four of The Wire made up a lot of ground in my book.

        • mjdittmer Jan 31,2010 11:20 am || Up

          How you feel about Season Four, I feel about Season Three.

          • Leopold Bloom Jan 31,2010 11:38 am || Up

            Season Three was pretty awesome, too.

            I think we may all collectively agree though that season five never happened.

            • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 31,2010 8:44 pm || Up

              Omar in season five definitely happened.

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 30,2010 8:53 pm || Up

      I thought season 2 was the worst season. I would advise you stick with it.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • Leopold Bloom Jan 30,2010 10:46 pm || Up

        it was…different. It was sooo divorced from season one and then they went back for season three…

        I grew to really appreciate season two, but it was drastically different.

        • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 30,2010 11:39 pm || Up

          Yeah. It wasn’t that it was poorly done or bad tv or anything. It was just so jarringly different. And I think it pulled them away from the things they needed to be doing to satisfy me.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • Leopold Bloom Jan 30,2010 11:41 pm || Up

            nm, you were one that really disagreed about season four, right?

            • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 30,2010 11:56 pm || Up

              I sort of doubt it. 3 is my favorite, 2 my least favorite. Beyond that it’s hard to rank.

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 31,2010 8:23 am || Up

        Oh, I’ll definitely stick with it, partly because so many folks say Seas 3-4 are fantastic, but mostly because Mrs. Upgrade says so.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  29. Poppy Poppy Jan 30,2010 5:31 pm

    9/10

    Missed #4. Wild guess on #8 happened to be right.

    There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
    • Ice Cream Ice Cream Jan 30,2010 5:40 pm || Up

      3/10 :(

      It said my score is like James Buchanan’s ratings: in the gutter! Time to hit the books.

      Where is the good in "good-bye"?
      • Poppy Poppy Jan 30,2010 5:48 pm || Up

        THAT’S what’s wrong with this generation of preschoolers… ;)

        There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
        • Ice Cream Ice Cream Jan 30,2010 6:21 pm || Up

          The closest we get is the state of the

          address.
          address.

          Where is the good in "good-bye"?
      • Leopold Bloom Jan 30,2010 8:04 pm || Up

        4/10. Gave me a Nixon quote. I deserve it.

    • whiteshoes40 Jan 30,2010 6:04 pm || Up

      I would’ve done better if I knew what more of the earliest presidents looked like. Those somewhat blurry pictures in the background helped me on a couple questions, though.

      (Why am I doing this? I have real work to do. Sigh.)

    • the llama salb918 Jan 30,2010 6:19 pm || Up

      6/10. Can’t believe you had to guess on 8…that was one of the questions where you could use logic.

      • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 30,2010 8:57 pm || Up

        Me also. I didn’t realize the blurry pictures were clues until too late.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • the llama salb918 Jan 31,2010 9:39 am || Up

          those were clues? dang.

          • oblique Jan 31,2010 1:56 pm || Up

            Perhaps I should’ve read this thread before attempting the quiz…

      • Poppy Poppy Jan 31,2010 10:50 am || Up

        I can’t even remember what #8 was, now…

        There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
    • monkeyball Jan 30,2010 6:24 pm || Up

      7/10. Should have gotten the dead-guys question.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • Ice Cream Ice Cream Jan 30,2010 7:49 pm || Up

      Poppy For President!

      Where is the good in "good-bye"?
    • oblique Jan 31,2010 1:56 pm || Up

      3/10.

      I suck.

  30. Leopold Bloom Jan 30,2010 11:28 pm

    urf

  31. monkeyball Jan 30,2010 11:55 pm
    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 31,2010 9:01 am || Up

      Yeah. That doesn’t make sense.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • monkeyball Jan 31,2010 9:12 am || Up

        He’ll be our 144th OF.

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  32. monkeyball Jan 31,2010 7:03 am

    xbx return to FK in 3 … 2 … 1 …

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 31,2010 9:01 am || Up

      0?

      He seems busy flamewarring about animated gifs on **.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • monkeyball Jan 31,2010 9:12 am || Up

        Honestly, WTF is iglew’s deal?

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
        • Leopold Bloom Jan 31,2010 9:32 am || Up

          he’s incredibly weird, but not in a cute and fuzzy way, like me.

          • Leopold Bloom Jan 31,2010 9:41 am || Up

            wow. I’m glad y’all said something. I may have missed this huge war of words. Fun.

        • mk Jan 31,2010 10:03 am || Up

          I think his deal is that xbx is a dickhead.

          I love that he’s so precious with his super awesome clever ironic gifs that he feels adding a subject line would constitute some kind of affront to his artistic integrity. Whatever. He loves to be a provocative asshole, but hates to be called on any of it. He’s an aggressive but fragile crybaby who will spend the rest of his life complaining that everyone else is too sensitive.

          What’s he going to do this time? Storm out of AN again, start some other blog, then go back to AN in three months after the people on that other blog dare to get irritated when he acts like a spoiled douchebag? iglew is persnickety, sure, but also extremely patient and good-natured. If you cannot get along with him, the problem IS YOU. Seriously, screw xbx.

          • monkeyball Jan 31,2010 10:27 am || Up

            Yeah, but I really don’t get the whole “How dare you sully my front yard” (esp. when there’s a whole host of greater insults and idiocies plaguing ** … such as LETS TRAID 4 HALNEY RAMRIEZ!!!) + “Here’s some arbitrary rules from another site entirely I’d like you to follow.”

            you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
            • mk Jan 31,2010 10:48 am || Up

              Come on. It’s such a small thing. A grownup would have just said hey, no problem. All he can muster is taunts, because he is stuck in 8th grade.

              Tired act:

              1. Don’t budge. Ever.
              2. Pick at the scab, pick at the scab, pick at the scab until it breaks.
              3. Become indignant when people get mad at you for picking at the scab.

              It’s not like he’s indispensable to that site (or this site). Like someone said in that thread, most of his comments are either generically dickish (but opaque enough that he can then say everyone just misunderstood) or “you/this/everyone is stupid”.

              I’ll reiterate: pissy, aggressive, whiny, immature douchebag. AN should ban him and spare everyone further headaches.

            • Leopold Bloom Jan 31,2010 10:51 am || Up

              xbox is good to have around, if for no other reason than to tell us all to go fuck ourselves. too much lb love will make you all soft.

              • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 31,2010 8:46 pm || Up

                Fuck LB. He hasn’t even delivered any free magnets/stickers.

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
            • Poppy Poppy Jan 31,2010 11:23 am || Up

              I’m with mk on this. I don’t think iglew is trying to get anyone to follow any of LL’s rules… and, on the specific point of subject lines, I don’t think that’s arbitrary. *I* don’t care about a subject line, but people at AN who do care about it have given a perfectly reasonable explanation for why it matters to them. It’s a teeny tiny little courtesy that would do absolutely no harm to xbx or to the point of his gifs. And the broader point is that a person who consistently refuses to give a small courtesy (which includes keeping your mouth shut when you have absolutely nothing but a non-constructive insult to offer, regardless of your First Amendment right to offer it) is a dick.

              There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
              • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 31,2010 8:47 pm || Up

                The Computer nerd in me can’t understand why SBN hasn’t solved the problem.

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
            • mikeA Jan 31,2010 12:36 pm || Up

              I really can’t stand nsj….. this type of nonsense… writing a long comment after every single transaction about how it’s an awesome move because of service time and maybe the new player could be traded…. the ass-kissing… his obsession with discussing potential things the Yankees might do and for how much money…

          • mikeA Jan 31,2010 11:12 am || Up

            He loves to be a provocative asshole, but hates to be called on any of it. He’s an aggressive but fragile crybaby who will spend the rest of his life complaining that everyone else is too sensitive.

            I don’t think he minds being called on it, or is a crybaby. He likes to argue.

          • mikeA Jan 31,2010 11:16 am || Up

            Also, playing at being Mr. Mature bugs me more than being immature, but that’s just me, or maybe just in this case because I like xbx…

            • andeux andeux Jan 31,2010 12:23 pm || Up

              That thread contains xbx at his best

              wrong

              the topic of trading for hanley ramirez is very interesting to me. as is the topic of signing strasburg in seven years.
              i think it would also be cool if the a’s fielded an all-unicorn team and played their games on a rocket ship ballpark.

              and worst

              the last time we discussed this, i asked you to change your avatar because i dislike that shade of green. every time you post a comment, are you harassing / baiting me?

              TINSTAAFK
              • Leopold Bloom Jan 31,2010 12:25 pm || Up

                It was the best of xbox. It was the worst of xbox.

            • mk Jan 31,2010 12:29 pm || Up

              1. Sorry, that’s bs. What he does isn’t “arguing”. What he does is throw tantrums. It is a rare sight to see him actually engage an argument instead of eliding it with sarcastic misdirecton, except of course during those times when he is wailing and pounding his fists against the floor over petty stupid bullshit that a normal person wouldn’t be irked by.

              2. There is a difference between “playing mature” and “being mature”. Maybe iglew does the former too much, but he is a pleasant, well-meaning, smart, open, thoughtful person who is extremely easy to get along with. xbx, on the other hand, is only one of those things (the least impressive one).

              3. PT runs into trouble sometimes and irritates me in his own way, but in the end he means well and contributes significantly to the discourse. xbx does not mean well, and doesn’t do anything on AN but try his best to piss people off for his own amusement. Why would they keep him around? What does he offer? His entire oeuvre consists of dismissive asides and gifs. He is funny maybe 20% of the time, which doesn’t make up for the other 80% of the time when he is a complete asshole. I would ban him in a second, and three days from now no one would give a shit or even remember that it happened, his presence is so pointless and hollow.

              4. Despite my recent half-kidding attempts to welcome him back, I’m glad he doesn’t post here anymore.

              • mikeA Jan 31,2010 12:49 pm || Up

                I will say that his recent conduct has not been exemplary…

                • oblique Jan 31,2010 2:00 pm || Up

                  I can’t remember a time when it’s been any different.

              • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 31,2010 2:56 pm || Up

                Back when I was an active leftist I encountered a lot of folks who embraced the xbx paradigm, “jailhouse lawyer” types who take literalist interpretations of rules to preposterous and tedious lengths. Purity of process is paramount, and if that can’t be achieved, then it’s better to burn the whole place down. Obstinence masked as doctrine quickly grew tiresome in my 18-25 year old revolutionary crowd; it’s persistence beyond those tender years, when one is excused for a bit of high-minded idiotic bloviating, is beyond immature.

                The question I find most interesting is one of intent. In the month or two since xbx returned to posting, are the several shit-skirmishes he’s fomented calculated to achieve an outcome (“the community will rise up as I expose the hypocrisy of oversight”) or is it simply a nihilist desire to stir shit up and watch people get mad (and I’d include the FK commentary in that, which I guarantee he’s reading). In either case, that’s classic trollishness.

                "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
                • mk Jan 31,2010 4:08 pm || Up

                  Deftly elucidated.

                • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 31,2010 8:49 pm || Up

                  I’m dissapointed we’re arguing about this, but I do understand the impulse. And that I started it.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • monkeyball Jan 31,2010 11:48 pm || Up

                  Noyoudidn’t

                  you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  33. Leopold Bloom Jan 31,2010 10:56 am

    This is SO you guys.

    • Leopold Bloom Jan 31,2010 11:00 am || Up

      In search of a less bleak playground, the toddler pedaled faster.

    • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 31,2010 8:50 pm || Up

      I am not a hipster in any sense. Once I convince you there is nothing positive about Hyde park, I’m coming for Wicker park.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  34. Ice Cream Ice Cream Jan 31,2010 11:04 am

    This book review made me think of AN.

    Computing clouds depend on crowds, as Lanier points out – crowds of people using machines, crowds making their content free for the searching, crowds developing the habits and browsing activities that are attractive to advertisers. Lanier argues that the dependence of this model on advertising means that much of what is made and created over the Internet is beginning to look like advertising.

    Moreover, without leaning on any kind of political ideals, Lanier argues that there is something fundamentally wrong with a system that draws on people’s efforts but benefits only its owners, which is the direction he sees cloud computing heading.

    Does this fairly describe the model at AN now?

    Where is the good in "good-bye"?
    • andeux andeux Jan 31,2010 12:09 pm || Up

      As any vinyl addict will tell you, there is something missing from sound we hear digitally.

      Surface noise, flutter, and wow?

      TINSTAAFK
      • Leopold Bloom Jan 31,2010 12:19 pm || Up

        if you are, indeed a vinyl addict, I have plenty of scrap.

        • andeux andeux Jan 31,2010 12:30 pm || Up

          No, I’m making fun of vinyl addicts. People who make a big deal about the deficiencies of digital sound while failing to understand the corresponding problems with analog are like the people who insist that there’s more to baseball than stats but then judge players by batting average and RBIs.

          TINSTAAFK
          • Leopold Bloom Jan 31,2010 12:41 pm || Up

            I have leftover vinyl is what I’m saying.

          • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 31,2010 8:51 pm || Up

            Good line, apt comparison.

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  35. mikeA Jan 31,2010 1:50 pm

    Badges for Baseball is a crime prevention program designed to pair law enforcement professionals as mentors and coaches with youth. The program serves as a positive outlet for youth during out-of-school hours when they are most likely to commit or become victims of crime. Participating youth will learn the basics of baseball/softball while taking part in the Foundation’s character development program, Healthy Choices, Healthy Children.

    ….

    “We’re thrilled to partner with Attorney General Gansler and the Governor’s Office of Crime Control and Prevention to expand Badges for Baseball across our home state,” said Steve Salem, Executive Director of the Cal Ripken, Sr. Foundation.

    Unrelated note; snippet of email I recently received from one of my employers:

    I’ve got another cop masturbation case for you.

    • monkeyball Jan 31,2010 11:49 pm || Up

      Can I steal that for an opening line of dialogue?

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  36. mikeA Jan 31,2010 2:05 pm

    Life’s rich pageant really is great. Been re-listening since it got recommended awhile back.

        • Leopold Bloom Jan 31,2010 3:05 pm || Up

          REM’s good.

          • mikeA Jan 31,2010 3:06 pm || Up

            yeah. I like the A’s too. Do you like the A’s?

            • Leopold Bloom Jan 31,2010 3:13 pm || Up

              yeah.

              (stares at ground, slowly feathers bangs out of face)

          • monkeyball Jan 31,2010 6:39 pm || Up

            1980-87 and periodically thereafter (and always live), yes

            you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • mk Jan 31,2010 4:05 pm || Up

      If you have the extra track version, Stipe hamming up King of the Road is pretty entertaining. Or maybe I’m thinking of a different album. I don’t know. What I’m trying to say is, I’m old and have little recollection of anything I experienced prior to yesterday afternoon.

    • monkeyball Jan 31,2010 6:37 pm || Up

      It’s my favorite rock album.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  37. batgirl batgirl Jan 31,2010 8:55 pm

    IT WORKED! IT WORKED! IT WORKED! IT WORKED! IT WORKED!

    I’M FREE! I’M FREE! I’M FREE! I’M FREE! I’M FREE!

    I was not able to use the wonderful MS Word advice given by my by fellow krauters to fix the page numbers, but my sister-in-law did!! Thank you so much for all your advice, it did the trick.

  38. nevermoor nevermoor Jan 31,2010 9:06 pm

    LB: Is this your graphic design work? (my publicity links are only offerable with snark)

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • Leopold Bloom Feb 1,2010 9:12 am || Up

      hey, sickels wanted muted, he got muted.

  39. nevermoor nevermoor Jan 31,2010 9:51 pm
    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"

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