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Okay, I’m working my ass of in a sign shop, supporting the capitalist system I don’t even believe in, but I gotta post the post for the monkey and the promise to the monkey and the silence of the monkey.

Tell me, Clarice, when you lie your head down to go to sleep at night, do you hear him?  Do you hear the monkey, softly calling to you, throwing puns at you as if it were his feces?  Do you hear him…calling…TWSS…TWSS…TWSS…and all the while all you can dream of is the screaming of the monkey?  Well that and signs…

Facebook’s evil, btw.  Just saying.

How the hell did she get that job without a degree?!  I demand an investigation!  (though, legally, she could have killed before she died, too…that seems like a funner bucket list)

He’s got a point.

So does he.  Fucking grocery stores.  Speaking of, true story.  Before Food for Thought in Sonoma Co. became WF, I dropped a farcical little note in the suggestion box, something to the effect of what’s wrong with steak and Budweiser, you tree-huggers?

Feel, feel, feel…feel my heat

I have nothing else for you.  Now go away.  unless you want signs.

162 thoughts on “Grill 1/27/10 Silence of the Monkeys

  1. the llama salb918 Jan 27,2010 9:10 am

    why is ” “drug free” ” in quotation marks?

    The whole foods one…I have felt that way in a whole foods before.

    • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 27,2010 9:19 am || Up

      They don’t care if you take them, just that you don’t pay with money.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  2. nevermoor nevermoor Jan 27,2010 9:20 am

    Meh, hippie stores have their uses. I like Rainbow Market a lot for certain things, like buying spices for 5% of what they cost at safeway.

    But yes. I also like steak and Budweiser beer.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • monkeyball Jan 27,2010 9:39 am || Up

      Handy tip: used scrip bottles make great spice jars. And always know your tare weights.

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      • Leopold Bloom Jan 27,2010 11:31 am || Up

        spoken like a true ex-deli worker…or drug dealer.

        • monkeyball Jan 27,2010 12:03 pm || Up

          I’ll have the Reuben with a dime bag on the side.

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  3. monkeyball Jan 27,2010 9:42 am

    “She had what I call a ‘bucket list,'”

    Emphasis added. Not quite Greengrocer’s English, but a weird trope of the half-educated vernacular, in which ownership/origination is claimed over a common expression. “What I call ‘small ball'”; “what I call ‘surplus value'”; “what I call ‘fucked in the head'”; et cet.

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  4. monkeyball Jan 27,2010 9:57 am

    Neyer has a couple not-so-smarts:
    1. A’s overpaid for Sheets, end of story
    2. “For a young player who runs decently enough, Young is almost startlingly inept in left field. Kubel’s probably even worse, but his bat more than makes up for that.” Shouldn’t we demand some evidence for that? You all know I’m not the biggest fan of D metrics and tertiary stats such as WAR (which depend greatly on D stats), but (a) this assertion seems really problematic to even me, and (b) Neyer is a big fan of D & tertiary stats.

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    • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 27,2010 10:09 am || Up

      But he redeems himself by linking to this.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • monkeyball Jan 27,2010 10:12 am || Up

        You should have posted it at ** instead

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        • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 27,2010 5:50 pm || Up

          Yeah yeah.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • mikeA Jan 27,2010 1:45 pm || Up

      2. I don’t understand what you’re objecting to in that statement.

      • monkeyball Jan 27,2010 3:45 pm || Up

        Have you looked at his defensive numbers? He’s pretty clearly worse than Cust. And while he had an outstanding offensive ’09, and is on an upward trend, his ’09 numbers don’t look sustainable. My quibble, as stated, is with the flat assertion, as well as the “more than.” I think it’s pretty clearly a debatable point.

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        • mikeA Jan 27,2010 3:55 pm || Up

          Or does this mean the Twins are ready to 1) give up on Delmon Young, and 2) take the hit on Kubel’s defense in left field?
          Actually, might not be a hit at all. For a young player who runs decently enough, Young is almost startlingly inept in left field. Kubel’s probably even worse, but his bat more than makes up for that.

          He’s saying 1)replacing Young with Kubel in LF=”taking a hit” on defense, but that Kubel>Young on offense more than makes up for Young>Kubel on defense, which does not seem too controversial.
          Also, no one is “pretty clearly” worse than Cust.

          • monkeyball Jan 27,2010 4:07 pm || Up

            Adam Dunn, at least, is pretty clearly worse than Cust.

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            • andeux andeux Jan 28,2010 12:01 pm || Up

              Career UZR from fangraphs: Dunn -14, Kubel -19, Cust -20
              CHONE projections (1 year old): Dunn -13, Kubel -8, Cust -11 [I suspect Kubel and Cust benefit from having played less, and hence being more heavily regressed toward the mean. Also I don’t know if he has projections from this year for these players.]

              TINSTAAFK
  5. monkeyball Jan 27,2010 9:58 am

    Interesting piece on historical SB trends

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  6. monkeyball Jan 27,2010 9:58 am
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  7. monkeyball Jan 27,2010 10:06 am

    W:AL

    The White House might be unsure about what to do about their signature piece of legislation, but that hasn’t stopped them from whipping senators on Bernanke.

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    • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 27,2010 10:10 am || Up

      Heaven forbid they stop and think. It was ok in Afghanistan and it’s ok here. I care about the decision, not the fact that they’re thinking.

      In any case, whipping representatives is Pelosi’s job.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • monkeyball Jan 27,2010 10:15 am || Up

        So … if whipping Reps is Pelosi’s job, then isn’t whipping Sens Reid’s job? And as of this morning, the Reps aren’t the problem w/r/t HCR.

        And … apparently the Admin then, by your logic, isn’t stopping and thinking w/r/t Helicopter Ben?

        And apparently the Admin (awa Menendez and Kaine and Pelosi and Reid) never stopped to think over the past 8 weeks w/r/t to the MA Sen race, eh?

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        • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 27,2010 5:52 pm || Up

          Reid is a different animal. Until the reps pass the senate bill, they’re the problem with HCR.

          Ben’s their guy, getting him reupped isn’t a cause for careful deliberation.

          The MA Sen race was a cluster, but I don’t see the relationship.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • Leopold Bloom Jan 27,2010 7:02 pm || Up

            Lou

      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 27,2010 7:58 pm || Up

        Isn’t whipping representatives Jim Clyburn’s job?

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • monkeyball Jan 27,2010 8:20 pm || Up

          It used to be Deborah Jeane Palfrey’s job to whip certain senators.

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  8. nevermoor nevermoor Jan 27,2010 10:15 am

    Slusser’s notes:

    I’m told the A’s have agreed not to offer Ben Sheets arbitration if he is a Type-A free agent, though that isn’t expected to be an issue

    Many readers have asked if Grant Desme repaid his $432,000 signing bonus when he retired to join the priesthood last week. No, he did not, nor did the A’s expect him to.

    She also says the A’s are thinking about Damon, but only at a bargain.

    Slusser, as usual, has pretty good info.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • monkeyball Jan 27,2010 10:56 am || Up

      Shouldn’t he at least have tithed it?

      (TWThTh)

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      • JediLeroy Jan 27,2010 4:20 pm || Up

        TuesdayWednesdayThursdayThaid?

        az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
  9. the llama salb918 Jan 27,2010 11:17 am

    I don’t know much about the spending freeze, other than I suspect that most government programs will get an exemption. I’m not even sure I have an opinion on yet.

    But I thought Obama didn’t want to do one. Was it just a contrarian debate tactic? Or is the president just adapting to a changing environment? I don’t think changing your mind is a sign of weakness, since different situations require different strategies. Maybe it’s time to pull out the hatchets!

    Anyway, that’s the kind of “gotcha!” footage that John Stewart used to use. Does he still do stuff like that?

    • monkeyball Jan 27,2010 12:06 pm || Up

      Not only that, it is, according to the liberal think tank most closely associated with the Obama Admin, “fiscal snake oil”

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    • monkeyball Jan 27,2010 12:16 pm || Up

      More day-old links on the freeze:
      Spackerman:

      Everyone in Washington who studies the Pentagon budget quickly finds gobs and gobs of wasteful spending. Not some people. Not dirty hippies. Every. Single. Defense. Analyst.

      LG&M:

      As a policy/PR stunt, the spending freeze seems geared entirely around satisfaction of the Washington Post editorial page. In terms of political strategy, this seems odd.

      Ezra

      Krugman

      De Long (endorsing Ezra)

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    • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 27,2010 5:54 pm || Up

      It seems to me like an ineffective policy (not that we know the full contours), but could be a useful way to frame cuts and increases if he has some he plans to make. I agree with your wait and see approach.

      There is something different between bottom-line freezes and line-item freezes, but I certainly am not thrilled about the whole thing.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  10. the llama salb918 Jan 27,2010 11:20 am
  11. the llama salb918 Jan 27,2010 11:24 am
  12. monkeyball Jan 27,2010 12:07 pm
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    • Leopold Bloom Jan 27,2010 1:27 pm || Up

      I’d vote for him again, then.

      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 27,2010 8:01 pm || Up

        Even after the subsequent bank collapses and rioting? Maybe so.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 27,2010 5:55 pm || Up

      I wish I lived in a world where any politician could say that without getting crucified.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  13. monkeyball Jan 27,2010 12:11 pm

    Yglesias has a not-so-smart. The obvious counter to MY’s consternation is the eternal chestnut that people hate “Congress” yet love their Congresscritter. Plus the protection racket of incumbency.

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    • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 27,2010 5:56 pm || Up

      Meh… If that’s true it makes the person less vulnerable and so less in need of security. I think the real answer is that conservaDems need to prove they aren’t Obama, so they do.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  14. monkeyball Jan 27,2010 12:13 pm
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  15. monkeyball Jan 27,2010 12:37 pm

    In college, I played slap bass for The Brazilian Rubber Boom.

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  16. monkeyball Jan 27,2010 12:50 pm
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    • Leopold Bloom Jan 27,2010 1:23 pm || Up

      I get nothing.

      ….

      Is this some sort of metaphor?

  17. the llama salb918 Jan 27,2010 2:11 pm
    • Leopold Bloom Jan 27,2010 3:14 pm || Up

      That’s no way to run an organization.

  18. the llama salb918 Jan 27,2010 2:16 pm
    • monkeyball Jan 27,2010 2:51 pm || Up

      We do the small home-based part-time thing. 2 days/week (plus occasional extra days), ~$800/mo.

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      • the llama salb918 Jan 27,2010 6:14 pm || Up

        Center based care…massively expensive, massive employer subsidy, super-high quality.

        • monkeyball Jan 27,2010 6:24 pm || Up

          I can hardly imagine better quality than what we’re currently getting.

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          • the llama salb918 Jan 27,2010 6:28 pm || Up

            I didn’t mean it that way. A lot of friends use home-based daycares and love it. I’m just saying that we’re fortunate to have the huge-ass subsidy for a really good daycare.

    • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 27,2010 5:58 pm || Up

      Condoms: < $0.50 each.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • the llama salb918 Jan 27,2010 6:14 pm || Up

        oh, fuck off

        • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 27,2010 6:49 pm || Up

          No, you fuck with them ON. This was your mistake.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • monkeyball Jan 27,2010 6:24 pm || Up

        Christ, what a pinhole

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        • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 27,2010 6:50 pm || Up

          Don’t give mrs. nevermoor any ideas.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • monkeyball Jan 27,2010 8:21 pm || Up

            Except for Christ, what an asshole?

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            • Leopold Bloom Jan 27,2010 8:23 pm || Up

              loathing’s a pretty good form of contraceptive.

              • monkeyball Jan 27,2010 8:59 pm || Up

                Not where I was going with that.

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  19. monkeyball Jan 27,2010 2:45 pm
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    • Leopold Bloom Jan 27,2010 3:17 pm || Up

      I’m not exactly sure that dictates a pro-lynching viewpoint.

      • monkeyball Jan 27,2010 3:38 pm || Up

        I’m not endorsing the political/semiotic analysis; I’m just using it for a cheap joke.

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        • Leopold Bloom Jan 27,2010 3:45 pm || Up

          oh.

          ….

          ..

          it works less well if you have to explain it to me, right?

  20. monkeyball Jan 27,2010 3:39 pm

    Ah, now this is the sort of snark I was hoping for when Calcaterra was promoted to the bigs:

    McCourt isn’t interested in selling. He will control the Dodgers for as long as he lives, and one day a statue of him will stand in Chavez Ravine, with a visage of cold command, declaring that he is Frank McCourt, King of Kings, and that we should all look on his works, ye Mighty, and despair. To the extent I was wrong about that in my report, apologies

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  21. monkeyball Jan 27,2010 3:51 pm
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    • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 27,2010 6:00 pm || Up

      California’s penal system is a total shitshow. That wouldn’t even scratch the surface.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  22. monkeyball Jan 27,2010 4:08 pm

    The ultimate Beane acquisition?

    Yes, we’ll be rooting for laundry in 2010.

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    • mikeA Jan 27,2010 4:10 pm || Up
      • monkeyball Jan 27,2010 4:17 pm || Up

        I am happy that it was mikev.

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      • monkeyball Jan 27,2010 4:21 pm || Up

        He’s pretty clearly better than me.

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      • Ice Cream Ice Cream Jan 27,2010 4:54 pm || Up

        For someone, IIRC, who doesn’t care for that kind of thing, you’re pretty good at it.

        Where is the good in "good-bye"?
        • monkeyball Jan 27,2010 5:14 pm || Up

          I paid for this mike.

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          • Ice Cream Ice Cream Jan 27,2010 5:43 pm || Up

            Oops. Wrong mike.

            Can I have $10?

            Where is the good in "good-bye"?
  23. monkeyball Jan 27,2010 4:18 pm
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  24. monkeyball Jan 27,2010 4:20 pm

    I’m confused. I thought this referred to the swingin’ bachelor digs where this guy lives.

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    • Ice Cream Ice Cream Jan 27,2010 5:05 pm || Up

      Confusion abounds.

      Where is the good in "good-bye"?
      • monkeyball Jan 27,2010 5:11 pm || Up

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    • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 27,2010 6:02 pm || Up

      I don’t understand the big deal. My ipod is a pain in the ass and works far worse than winamp.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  25. monkeyball Jan 27,2010 5:17 pm

    Cripes. I really can’t stand the lefties John Cole has recruited.

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    • mikeA Jan 27,2010 5:20 pm || Up
    • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 27,2010 6:02 pm || Up

      Yeah. New guy is tl;dr personified.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • monkeyball Jan 27,2010 6:06 pm || Up

        Not as bad as the new girl. She’s earnest.

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        • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 27,2010 6:15 pm || Up

          Yep. Get well soon JC, we need actually funny snark not serious.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  26. the llama salb918 Jan 27,2010 6:18 pm

    Whenever I watch the SOTU, I can’t helped but hum: “And when you’re up, you’re up/and when you’re down you’re down/and when you’re only halfway up/you’re neither up nor down.”

    All that sitting and standing must be hell on all those old knees and quads.

    • monkeyball Jan 28,2010 5:59 am || Up

      Nah, Congressmen have a lot of experience on their knees.

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  27. Leopold Bloom Jan 27,2010 7:49 pm

    SuSlu loves me.

    • Ice Cream Ice Cream Jan 27,2010 8:01 pm || Up

      Oh, yeah? Well … well … if she loves you so much why doesn’t she marry you, huh?

      Where is the good in "good-bye"?
    • whiteshoes40 Jan 27,2010 8:02 pm || Up

      I’ve never seen her get that involved in a thread. It’s kinda awesome.

    • JediLeroy Jan 27,2010 8:07 pm || Up

      So, has SuSlu gotten an FK invite?

      az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
      • JediLeroy Jan 27,2010 8:08 pm || Up

        Also, if we do invite her, I think we should totally focus on how secret and elite it is.

        az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
      • monkeyball Jan 27,2010 8:22 pm || Up

        I feel like we did send her and Ratto emails … but that may not have progressed beyond the planning stage.

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        • Leopold Bloom Jan 27,2010 8:32 pm || Up

          we (and when I say we I mean you) should try again. But let me delete the comment about RR before he comes.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 27,2010 9:00 pm || Up

      She wrote me a fan letter once. Nyah, nyah.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • monkeyball Jan 27,2010 9:08 pm || Up

        Yeah, but that just gave her all the greater distance to fall when she found out about the PDDs …

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      • JediLeroy Jan 27,2010 9:27 pm || Up

        Good, so the issue of who’s going to woo her is settled.

        az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
        • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 28,2010 9:08 am || Up

          Hey-O

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • monkeyball Jan 28,2010 9:29 am || Up

          But who’s going to swearengen her? I know mikev wants to, but …

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    • mikeA Jan 27,2010 9:12 pm || Up

      She and I say nasty things about you during out anti-meat A’s parties to which none of you are invited.

  28. mikeA Jan 27,2010 9:09 pm

    On the SuSlu topic:

    I don’t think Cabrera or Kennedy is too likely

    They need a backup SS and Cabera’s defense last year was dreadful and Kennedy can’t play SS.

    Those of you who read the Drumbeat know I’m big on Petit, but the A’s don’t seem to be, so…. if Chavez is healthy, there really is a possibility he’s the backup SS. And that idea was first proposed to Chavez, btw, by Billy Beane. So it’s not some fanciful statement by Chavez. Of course, as he keeps saying -and you guys do too – he needs to be healthy.

    It’s not a great group of middle infielders left. Maybe they try Miles or Petit and pray Chavez is OK.

    Are you all sold on Pennington as the fulltime starter?

    by slusser on Jan 27, 2010 9:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

    • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 28,2010 9:09 am || Up

      She’s awesome. Want here.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  29. the llama salb918 Jan 28,2010 12:10 pm
    • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 28,2010 12:24 pm || Up

      Where are we?

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • green star oakland Jan 28,2010 1:08 pm || Up

        The numbers are assigned to individual asteroids/comets, not to the Earth per se.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
        • Poppy Poppy Jan 28,2010 3:20 pm || Up

          I still want to know the potential ramifications of Earth colliding with itself, and how often that happens. Make it go to 11.

          There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
          • green star oakland Jan 28,2010 3:22 pm || Up

            Imaginary auto-collisions would have to be scored i.

            If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
        • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 28,2010 7:26 pm || Up

          Oh. Right. That makes much more sense.

          What’s the highest number?

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  30. Leopold Bloom Jan 28,2010 1:23 pm

    and you will know my name is the lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

    i believe you have my stapler.

  31. green star oakland Jan 28,2010 3:11 pm

    Let us mark the passing of Howard Zinn.

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • Leopold Bloom Jan 28,2010 3:45 pm || Up

      I want to go and find some oppressed people and see what their reaction is to his death.

    • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 28,2010 7:26 pm || Up

      Did he die with a fan for a Dell?

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  32. nevermoor nevermoor Jan 28,2010 10:20 pm
    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  33. the llama salb918 Jan 29,2010 6:35 am
    • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 29,2010 8:56 am || Up

      Interesting. I wouldn’t have expected that. In your opinion, was the methodology sound?

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • the llama salb918 Jan 29,2010 9:07 am || Up

        I have no idea. I’m not much of an expert in this kind of data mining and analysis, so I’m not sure my opinion means much if anything.

        • mk Jan 29,2010 9:24 am || Up

          Isn’t this more like a “virtual certainty” than a “possibility”?

          Another possibility for the surprising finding is that drivers in places with these bans may be switching to hands-free phones. In this case, crashes wouldn’t decrease because the risk is about the same as with handset phones, Mr. Lund said.

          • the llama salb918 Jan 29,2010 9:31 am || Up

            That makes sense. Is there something about hands-free talking that makes them more dangerous than, say, talking to a passenger? Has that study been done?

            • monkeyball Jan 29,2010 9:39 am || Up

              I believe that there have been studies on that, and IIRC, talking on the phone at all is a huge risk factor, while talking to a passenger is definitely a risk, but lower than talking on the phone.

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              • monkeyball Jan 29,2010 9:40 am || Up

                And neither compares to the collision risk of grilling bratwurst on a passenger-seat hibachi.

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              • the llama salb918 Jan 29,2010 9:49 am || Up

                Odd that having a conversation with a phone is worse than having a conversation with a passenger. Maybe it’s the “set of eyes” thing.

              • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 29,2010 10:09 am || Up

                Per mythbusters’ (admittedly limited) analysis, talking on the phone is more dangerous than being drunk.

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
            • andeux andeux Jan 29,2010 9:40 am || Up

              A passenger provides another set of eyes.

              TINSTAAFK
              • monkeyball Jan 29,2010 9:42 am || Up

                … to the organ-donation bank.

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      • monkeyball Jan 29,2010 9:37 am || Up

        Some relatively minor problems jump out at me:
        1. If you’re using insurance claims as the larger subset from which accidents are derived, in localities in which anti-hands-cell laws have been passed, then someone who gets in an accident while using his cell is going to be pretty likely not to report an accident in the first place (though I guess the only-in-vehicles-0-3-months-old stricture is probably designed to mitigate that — someone with a new car is likelier to report an accident than someone driving a beater)
        2. Given the publicity that such bans get from the moment that the law is proposed through debate and passage, and leading up to implementation, I’d guess that a large portion of the general public already changes their behavior before the law takes effect
        3. Laws /= behavior. Those who are going to change behavior, I’d wager, would do so according to #2 above, and those who aren’t going to change their behavior … won’t.
        4. No discussion of enforcement or penalties. If there’s no enforecement and/or the penalties are low, there’s little incentive to change behavior
        5. The flip side of #1: if you’re in a fender-bender and you observed the other guy engaging in illegal behavior (i.e., being at fault), you might be likelier to file a claim

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        • the llama salb918 Jan 29,2010 9:42 am || Up

          I like 3-4. It appeals to my most base “more laws don’t solve problems” instinct.

          • monkeyball Jan 29,2010 9:46 am || Up

            Yeah, the SF Board of Supervisors is unaware of #3-4.

            Though I’d throw a couple “necessarily”s in various places in my #s and your statement.

            you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
        • monkeyball Jan 29,2010 9:47 am || Up

          0-3 years, not months. typo

          you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  34. the llama salb918 Jan 29,2010 6:50 am
    • monkeyball Jan 29,2010 9:24 am || Up

      That’s a real tradgey.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  35. nevermoor nevermoor Jan 29,2010 8:57 am

    Yglesiasm of the month:

    Conservatives don’t care about the deficit.

    I think this is clearly true, but then I’m biased.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • monkeyball Jan 29,2010 9:22 am || Up

      I think that goes both too far and not far enough.

      I’d phrase it as: Conservatives Republicans don’t care about the deficit governing.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 29,2010 10:11 am || Up

        I disagree with the second one. Republicans governed during the Bush years (poorly, imo, but thats why I’m not a Republican). The first edit is fair.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • monkeyball Jan 29,2010 10:19 am || Up

          I disagree with your disagreement — I’m not talking about, say, the Bushies’ desire to privatize/eliminate Social Security or make abortion less legal/available. I’m talking about (a) the mechanics of governance, and (b) responsible governance (to be fair, Dems don’t have a great track record on [b] either, but at least they have an interest in [a]).

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  36. the llama salb918 Jan 29,2010 9:52 am
    • Leopold Bloom Jan 29,2010 10:03 am || Up

      I always despised cursive. They forced that shit on us from about second grade til about sixth. Then I just drifted back to non-cursive. Even my cursive was half cursive, half not.

      • nevermoor nevermoor Jan 29,2010 10:11 am || Up

        I never learned cursive because my writing arm was broken in third grade.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • monkeyball Jan 29,2010 10:20 am || Up

          I hated the lefties you recruited to substitute for you in third grade.

          you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • monkeyball Jan 29,2010 10:20 am || Up

      And how will kids get through autotext firewalls if they can’t read cursive?

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  37. nevermoor nevermoor Jan 29,2010 10:40 am
    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • Leopold Bloom Jan 29,2010 10:42 am || Up

      healthcare’s dead.

    • monkeyball Jan 29,2010 11:04 am || Up

      There’s some ironic/appropriate parallelism with both the process of getting an appointment to see a healthcare provider, and of attempting to get a claim reviewed/reimbursed by an insurer.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  38. Leopold Bloom Jan 29,2010 10:52 am

    did the number of mods at ** just go up two or three?

    • monkeyball Jan 29,2010 11:02 am || Up

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  39. Poppy Poppy Jan 29,2010 3:25 pm

    The A’s 2010 promo schedule

    I’m concerned about a couple of things:
    April 15 – wtf is a “sluggie?” They say it’s fleece, but it sounds slimier than fleece.
    July 11 – an A’s BBQ set is being given away on Organ Donor Day.

    There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
    • monkeyball Jan 29,2010 3:32 pm || Up

      KOTM

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    • andeux andeux Jan 29,2010 3:35 pm || Up

      I’m guessing it’s like a snuggie

      TINSTAAFK
      • batgirl batgirl Jan 29,2010 8:09 pm || Up

        I prefer slanket.

        • Leopold Bloom Jan 29,2010 8:41 pm || Up

          I’d like skank-let, but that sounds like an inappropriately sexual teen.

      • monkeyball Jan 29,2010 8:51 pm || Up

        They should do a Rajai/Coco Slapchop giveaway.

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    • monkeyball Jan 29,2010 3:36 pm || Up

      I still say that the Catfish Hunter bobblehead was the all-time inappropriate giveaway.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • Poppy Poppy Jan 29,2010 3:48 pm || Up

        Srsly.

        Not a giveaway, but I think “root beer floats for diabetes awareness” is also a little inappropriate…

        There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.

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