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Since FK’s trojan horse keyboard monitors only work when we are getting high comment counts, I’m going to bait the whole FKing lot of you. As follows.

Words for Small Sets

134 thoughts on “New Week; New Grill

  1. FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 18,2012 11:44 am

    For me, “a handful” needs to be more than two and could be as many as seven or eight, which “several” can only ever be two or three. “A couple” is always two, except on occasional drunken and open-minded evenings from one’s youth.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • MikeV Jun 18,2012 11:46 am || Up

      For me, “a handful” is a full C cup.

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

        • lynnzgal Jun 18,2012 5:52 pm || Up

          boobies!

          • MikeV Jun 18,2012 9:35 pm || Up

            yes

            And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

            Thanks, and go As.

          • SPWC Jun 18,2012 9:40 pm || Up

            I’ve said it before and I’ll say it a few more times before I’m through…

            I appreciate boobies more now as an actual boob farmer than I ever did as a dude.

            \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
            • MikeV Jun 18,2012 9:50 pm || Up

              If I had my own there is a better than average chance that I’d never leave the house.

              And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

              Thanks, and go As.

        • MikeV Jun 18,2012 9:36 pm || Up

          But, for the record, more than a handful is PERFECTLY OKAY.

          And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

          Thanks, and go As.

    • WaddellCanseco Jun 18,2012 11:54 am || Up

      A handful of beans isn’t 2 to 5. It could be like 30.

    • nevermoor Jun 18,2012 12:26 pm || Up

      I’m with you on a couple always meaning two. A few, to me, almost always means three. The other two I don’t have strong feelings about, but I would always be thinking more than two.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • the dogfather Jun 18,2012 1:31 pm || Up

      Whatever the exact size of the number, it’s a small sample.

      The meaning of life is not so much found, as it is Made. -- Opus
    • Dial C for Concupiscence Jun 18,2012 1:42 pm || Up

      Somehow, I had this argument multiple times with my ex (not the reason she’s an ex). I was originally on the couple = 2-5ish (as in someone saying “it’s a couple of miles down the road not necessarily meaning exactly 2), but I was persuaded (read: indifferent enough) to accept that one of those phrases above could be used to mean exactly 2.

      As for a handful, that always suggest more than 2 to me.

      • AV Jun 18,2012 2:48 pm || Up

        yes, men might think more often that women do that being in a couple means being in 2-5 different people and maybe this argument is exactly why she’s your ex and you’re stuck with a handful… or did i read that wrong?

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • AV Jun 18,2012 2:50 pm || Up

          *than women do

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • the dogfather Jun 18,2012 2:53 pm || Up

          Poppy? Are you still bestowing immortality on certain comments? ‘Cuz there’s one right above me.

          The meaning of life is not so much found, as it is Made. -- Opus
        • MikeV Jun 18,2012 3:06 pm || Up

          DUDE I NEED YOU.

          A few parents are having a very strange discussion on player nicknames. One of the kids (Parker) was nicknamed Parkinho by one of the coaches. When I spelled it that way, though, his mom (jokingly) gave us a bad time and said that it should be spelled with -ño instead of -ho at the end. Obviously, because I like Brazilian players, I responded and said that it was spelled the Brazil/Portugese way, not the Mexican/Spanish way because I idolized Ronaldinho growing up, and there are guys like Robinho and Juninho etc who have been great.

          She still says because the coach pronounces it with the ñ sound and not the /yo/ sound it should be spelled that way, but I say that we’re all gringos and pronounce it the same regardless of spelling.

          Thoughts?

          And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

          Thanks, and go As.

          • AV Jun 18,2012 5:02 pm || Up

            portuguese nh = spanish ñ, for sure. piranha, piraña. ronaldinho, ronaldiño. it sounds exactly the same in spanish or portuguese and it’s just a different way of writing it. if someone thinks they sound different, they’re not saying it right. it’d be like someone claiming there’s a different sound at the beginning of german foto and english photo.

            if you want ammo on your side, while it sounds the same, iño doesn’t actually mean the same thing as inho. in portuguese inho/inha means “little.” like ronaldinho means little ronaldo. in spanish, little ronaldo would be ronaldito, so not even close to needing a ñ for spelling.

            in spanish we might use the ñ to make a name cuter but only if it already sounds close to that. like antonio might become toño, but that doesn’t mean little antonio, just shortens anthony to tony, where antoninho in portuguese would definitely be little tony.

            *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
            • MikeV Jun 18,2012 9:47 pm || Up

              I love you.

              And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

              Thanks, and go As.

            • JediLeroy Jun 19,2012 9:08 am || Up

              I would argue that Brazilian Portuguese nh doesn’t sound exactly the same. But I’m too busy with work to make the argument.

              az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
              • SPWC Jun 19,2012 9:24 am || Up

                NH vs NY?

                Live free or die!

                \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
                • nevermoor Jun 19,2012 9:29 am || Up

                  Yeah, fuck those guys! New Haven forever!

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • SPWC Jun 19,2012 11:40 am || Up

                  damn Yalie!

                  \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
              • AV Jun 19,2012 4:32 pm || Up

                fair ’nuff, but i’m only gonna take that from someone who really knows his phones and phonemes. which it seems you might.

                *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
            • SPWC Jun 19,2012 9:23 am || Up

              I was playing with “photo” and “foto” and I’m pretty sure I start my lip in a slightly different bottom lip/top teeth position for each. Maybe 1mm difference.

              \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
              • JediLeroy Jun 19,2012 12:01 pm || Up

                The first ‘o’ in each word is different, so even if the initial /f/ sounds were normally identical (which they may be–I’ve never really thought about it), you would usually end up changing the lip/teeth positioning in anticipation of the following sounds. In general, American English seems to require a lot more lip/facial movement than Spanish.

                az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
                • AV Jun 19,2012 4:35 pm || Up

                  yeah, i just meant the consonant part.

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • Englishmajor Jun 18,2012 7:00 pm || Up

      I think “a handful” is often used to indicate a small percentage of a much larger pool of things, even if the “handful” is in double digits. E.g. There are lots of MLB players on Twitter, but only a handful really worth following.

  2. FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 18,2012 11:46 am

    Worthwhile article about the first employee ever hired by Walter Haas, and her role in exposing Marge Schott as a despicable bigot.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • WaddellCanseco Jun 18,2012 11:53 am || Up

      It’s an excellent article about an impressive person in Sharon Jones. I’m skeptical that the lesson learned isn’t that “you can’t talk like Marge, but you can behave like her if you keep your mouth shut in the presence of outsiders”.

    • batgirl Jun 18,2012 12:33 pm || Up

      That is a great article.

    • the dogfather Jun 18,2012 1:42 pm || Up

      Hooray for rescue dogs(!), named Diamond(!!!).

      The meaning of life is not so much found, as it is Made. -- Opus
      • the dogfather Jun 18,2012 2:37 pm || Up

        Also, I’ve been pondering a bit on the matter of character, maybe because there have been so distressingly many examples of its absence lately in the news (Edwards, Judge Seeman (prolly), That McQ guy at Penn State (along with many others thereabouts) — you just never know when an opportunity/test of same is gonna rear-up and slap your face.

        Obviously and suddenly, it did so to Ms. Jones on the phone, and it seems she handled it well, both immediately and later on the follow-through. My first two above appear to have been just habitual scumbags who may have found a way to rationalize their scumbaggary (different problem), but how do you maximize the probability that you’ll do the right things when the situation is thrust-upon you (like the Penn State guy who walked-in on a case of scumbuggery)?

        I don’t think you can be prepared for any specific such test, but it seems to me that some generic forethought might lead many folks to better responses. Progression would be something like: recognition of the situation/test for what it is, understanding in the moment or two that some decisive response is required from you (like it or not), and realizing there’s a choice among options, and going for the best reflection of your values. Thoughts?

        I probably don’t have the content or order right, but, like the old saying that “that which gets measured, improves”, I’m convinced that that which gets practiced improves, too.

        The meaning of life is not so much found, as it is Made. -- Opus
        • sslinger Jun 19,2012 12:43 am || Up

          From Camper Van Beethoven’s song Civil Disobedience:

          Will you know what to do?
          Will you know what to do?
          Will you do it?
          Will you do what you know what to do?

  3. andeux Jun 18,2012 11:49 am

    The original column has already been roundly mocked here (and pretty much everywhere) but Charlie Pierce hits this one out of the fking park.

    TINSTAAFK
  4. Future Ed Jun 18,2012 11:49 am

    1 Rasmus nonsense

    2 How is this even close?

    3 Brian, everybody wears these, except you major leaguers. They don’t really look funny.

    4. Another way Michelle is trying to aid our enemies. If we all ignored here and did our part, WORLD DOMINATION BY 2019.

    5. You know what to do.

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • andeux Jun 18,2012 11:59 am || Up

      3: Also ironic coming from a guy wearing his cap backwards.

      TINSTAAFK
    • SPWC Jun 18,2012 12:13 pm || Up

      2: I think that if the US had an election between “World Suicide/Armageddon” and “Not World Suicide/Armageddon,” it would be neck and neck.

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
      • andeux Jun 18,2012 12:49 pm || Up

        “The Rapture: Bring It On” would be a great campaign slogan for the Rs.

        TINSTAAFK
  5. JamesV Jun 18,2012 11:55 am

  6. FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 18,2012 12:34 pm

    Everyone laughs at the conspiracy wackos, until they come for you!

    If your clock (or his) is off by just a couple of minutes, the call that was supposed to register as “2:14″—code for “Got you dead to rights this time”—will be misinterpreted as “2:16,” which I think means “The Sox can’t make the playoffs without a closer.”

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • colin Jun 18,2012 12:46 pm || Up

      I don’t work on South Pole Telescope (I work on another microwave telescope that is also located at the South Pole), but I know a lot of people who do. Evidently, they get a significant amount of email asking about their secret purpose of tracking Nibiru.

      • nobody in particular Jun 18,2012 7:03 pm || Up

        Sitchin is awesome, I dig those books like Genesis Revisited and The 12th Planet. The Sumerian pictographs that depict what appears to be laboratory creation of humans (even though they date from the 9th Century B.C.) sure are fascinating.

        One time in the 1990s I went to a folk festival and this kid got up and sang a song about that stuff, titled “You Ain’t Gonna Find No Missing Link (Cuz the Aliens Fucked the Monkeys).

        Never suck on a Blow Pop with the microphone open.
        • SPWC Jun 18,2012 7:35 pm || Up

          Have you ever read any of Lee Carroll’s “Kryon” books?

          \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
          • nobody in particular Jun 18,2012 10:22 pm || Up

            no, can’t say that I have. What are they about?

            Never suck on a Blow Pop with the microphone open.
            • SPWC Jun 18,2012 10:36 pm || Up

              Mr. Carroll channels or “channels” a spirit named Kryon, whose (IMHO) greatest asset is self-deprecation. It often suggests to never take Mr. Carroll’s word as dogma, and compares its’ energies to high-density psychedelic download and apologizes for the inefficiencies of language.

              \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
    • Kylianna Jun 18,2012 6:35 pm || Up

      Oh man, I remember reading this article back when it was posted, and it’s still soooo good. I cannot stop being fascinated by conspiracy nuts, and not just because my tinfoil hat is awesome and pretty.

      Occasionally poking around Zodiac boards was a hobby of mine back when I was an insomniac, and if you love internet people-watching… man. The way people come up with their pet suspects, the way they defend them, and the antagonism between different factions, the way arguments can literally happen over the course of *years*… I always felt bad for O’Hare and a few of the other suspects-with-no-reason-to-suspect that just get caught up in the overzealous sleuthing crossfire by accident, Penn’s just so universally recognized as batshit and douchey (Graysmith just ranks ‘douchey’), but it seems like ‘having a book’ is all that’s required for the media to pull your pet suspect out when they trod out a Zodiac show every five or ten years.

      There’s this absolute conviction that people have for their personal favorite suspects, regardless of evidence, and an absolute unwillingness to acknowledge what happens to associating someone’s name with being a serial killer in the information age, and I find it *fascinating*. I kind of love O’Hare’s take on it, since the rap against him was ‘WELL HE NEVER SAYS HE ISN’T’ and it’s like… well, yes, how else do you not give fame to famewhores except not engaging?

      I had never heard the TAL about the bombing blogger that’s linked in the comments, and it’s a interesting listen.

      • nobody in particular Jun 18,2012 6:59 pm || Up

        Poor O’Hare. Penn is such a profiteering charlatan, as are that Voigt guy and Graysmith for that matter. They should have to pay all their profits to the victims’ families IMO.

        The true identity of Z will never be known unless someone — a relative, probably — comes across the hoods, the cabdriver’s shirt, Bryan Hartnell’s car keys, whatever in the way of hard evidence. Sometimes I have thought that the cops were in on it or that it was a military intelligence project where the murders were in fact carried out by more than one person. Regardless, it’s pretty certain it was someone who had been or was then in the military, given the Wing Walker shoeprints and the Naval codes and ciphers and all.

        I think Mike Mageau knows who it was, but good luck getting him to say so. He is still terrified, can’t blame him. Darlene Ferrin knew Z’s name, I’m pretty sure.

        Never suck on a Blow Pop with the microphone open.
        • Kylianna Jun 18,2012 8:14 pm || Up

          Penn’s certainly a profiteer and famewhore, but I’d also say he’s genuinely a bit unhinged, based on some of the people that have tried to contact him and use his talents for less-destructive purposes. The dude is just *creepy*, I’m pleased things haven’t been more than an aggressive nuisance for O’Hare, but I can’t even imagine having to explain My Crazy Stalker to an employer on Day 1 (it was awkward enough having to do a ‘if this person show up, I’m not here’ with a harassment issue, to people that knew me and trusted my work ethic).

          I kind of love some of the methodology and research and what-the-fuck guesswork people use, but damn, the ‘suspect du jour’ and accusing random people because of the numerology of their name…. What.

          Totally agree on with you on where the profits should go. I read a friend’s secondhand copy of Graysmith and run screaming away from Penn and the rest’s world of self-publishing, I don’t want those guys to ever have an extra cent (…if I found the new Lafferty book on a street corner, I’d probably read it for the lulz).

          Yeah, I assume that if it ever gets discovered, it’ll be deathbed confession or a relative going through his stuff after his death, maybe an estate sale, and come across Paul Stine’s wallet/driver’s license (I mean, I assume if you find a weird driver’s license in a relative’s house, you might google the name). If they even recognize the stuff for what it is (okay, bloody shirt, slightly suspicious). And it’ll be someone totally not even on the radar of the current suspects.

          I have no idea if Mageau knows, but man… Yeah, I can’t blame him for being terrified, given what he’s had to live with for 40 years.

          • nobody in particular Jun 18,2012 10:29 pm || Up

            I think Mageau and Ferrin knew they were gonna be targeted… hence MM wearing 18 layers of clothes on a steamy July 4th. Some people think it was drugs and DF and MM were involved in some sort of ring and may have been dealing drugs for Z… there’s also a theory that Z was a cop and that more cops were involved, hence the systematic bungling of the whole investigation, esp. in Vallejo. Look up Eric Zelms — he is one of the officers who may have spoken to Z after he killed the cabbie about a block away — he was killed weeks later when his partner sent him ahead to secure an alleged burglary location and he got ambushed… that always stuck in my mind as a set up.

            All just theories, but entertaining to consider. It’s such a shame that Fincher decided to use the Graysmith book as his template, because as good as the movie turned out — it was, admittedly, excellent and compelling for a story arc where all the action is over after 1/2 hour and the rest of the 2 hours+ is spent talking about who might have done it — it would have been even better if they had not used the fanciful notions that RG puts forth (since disproven by DNA) that it was Arthur Leigh Allen.

            Never suck on a Blow Pop with the microphone open.
            • nobody in particular Jun 18,2012 11:08 pm || Up

              Kyli, this might interest you, it’s the best film I’ve seen on the Z case, a documentary with interviews with everybody, including Mageau.

              Never suck on a Blow Pop with the microphone open.
  7. Future Ed Jun 18,2012 1:04 pm

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  8. Future Ed Jun 18,2012 2:59 pm

    This guy is off his rocker. McCarthy will not be an interesting free agent because he will resign here.

    The author is quite dumb.

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • nevermoor Jun 18,2012 3:38 pm || Up

      Not to mention that Hamilton isn’t married to Mrs. McCarthy. And is not an all-time tweeter.

      So that’s dumb too.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • Geronimo Berroa Jun 18,2012 5:03 pm || Up

      My favorite part:

      He’s an interesting free agent because he’s is good at throwing baseballs. It’s his job to throw baseballs, and he does it quite well.

      I used to write like that, then I turned seven.

      I'm the type of guy who walks into a room, and my dick has already been there for two minutes.
      • nevermoor Jun 18,2012 5:06 pm || Up

        According to webster’s dictionary…

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • AV Jun 18,2012 6:00 pm || Up

          mccarthy is full of beer?

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • doctorK Jun 18,2012 5:56 pm || Up

        That’s very high-level writing – at least for those who normally visit MCC.

  9. AV Jun 18,2012 5:07 pm

    i just sweated spain – croatia game. i had the math all wrong in my head and thought this group was fairly settled, with spain in for sure, and ireland mathematically eliminated, so that today was just about letting either croatia or italy through. in which case i wanted croatia to get in. but nothing was settled though, and it went down to the wire. sorry bojan.

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  10. AV Jun 18,2012 5:20 pm

    and i was hoping that with a whole week away from the bay area, and thus in a non-blackout zone, one of MLB’s free games of the day would be the A’s. nope. and i’m way out of radio range. i’m getting very lonesome for the green and gold.

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • SPWC Jun 18,2012 6:48 pm || Up

      Well, doc, the A’s aren’t actually playing today. Sorry about that.

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
      • AV Jun 19,2012 4:29 pm || Up

        i figured that out eventually.

        also, hurray! i think that’s my first “doc.”

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • SPWC Jun 19,2012 6:12 pm || Up

          I went looking for an appropriate Bugs Bunny quote, but all the good quotes come from the Duck.

          \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
  11. doctorK Jun 18,2012 6:08 pm

    This was very cool, even though it was at Dodger Stadium.

    • Future Ed Jun 18,2012 6:19 pm || Up

      yeah, that was a little better. At what point do the wives/girlfriends/children know that their SO/Dad is gonna be there.

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  12. FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 18,2012 6:36 pm

    So, the Clemens acquittal: I’d have preferred that the DOJ didn’t waste my money prosecuting Clemens, just like Bonds before him. That said, and without having followed the actual trial and evidence and such, he can’t possibly actually be innocent, right? I mean, the guy told Congress he had never taken PEDs, and then his DNA shows up on used steroids syringes.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • MikeV Jun 18,2012 9:49 pm || Up

      I have to lean toward the camp that says it doesn’t matter WHAT he (allegedly) lied about under oath, but HE (allegedly) LIED UNDER OATH

      That crap needs to be prosecuted every time. The entire basis of our justice system is that you CAN NOT lie under oath.

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

        • SPWC Jun 18,2012 10:39 pm || Up

          Morally, I agree.

          However, Brian McNamee is too scummy of a fuck to rely on as the main source of evidence.

          \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
        • DFA Jun 18,2012 11:04 pm || Up

          this

          In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 19,2012 8:25 am || Up

        Except Clemens lied to Congress. There aren’t enough jail cells to lock up everyone who lies to Congress.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • MikeV Jun 19,2012 8:30 am || Up

          Yeah that’s a lot of bankers.

          And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

          Thanks, and go As.

          • SPWC Jun 19,2012 9:25 am || Up

            and Congresspeople!

            \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
            • AV Jun 19,2012 4:36 pm || Up

              there it is again. this is like whack-a-mole.

              *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
            • MikeV Jun 19,2012 5:12 pm || Up

              Nah, they just lie to us.

              And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

              Thanks, and go As.

      • AV Jun 19,2012 4:36 pm || Up

        whoot, there it is.

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  13. Englishmajor Jun 18,2012 7:37 pm

    As expected, the Coliseum Authority awarded the contract for day-to-day management of the complex to AEG this morning. As Angela Woodall’s story describes, some of the commissioners were worried about AEG using the contract as an in to lure one or more the teams out of Oakland, because AEG is the developer of the hypothetical LA NFL stadium and might be involved in the hypothetical SF NBA arena. The AEG VP who’ll be taking over the management of the Coliseum denied it (although of course he would). But whatever one might think of Philip Anschutz, I think this is likely to be a good thing for A’s fans. AEG has a reputation for good customer service and good management. They take over on July 1, although all the current staff will stay for at least six months, so we may see some improvement in the lackluster Coliseum atmosphere even this season. They are also planning to book a lot more concerts and non-sports events into the arena and even the stadium, in order to raise the revenues and reduce the subsidy from Oakland and Alameda County.

    • lynnzgal Jun 18,2012 7:42 pm || Up

      Does AEG manage the Detroit Stadium? Because they know how to do it right.

      • JamesV Jun 18,2012 7:45 pm || Up

        I believe AEG would have managed the new arena in downtown Sacramento if it got built, and a big plus to that would have been them undoubtedly bringing in more events, concerts and so on that don’t happen at the existing Maloof-run Arco Arena.

        • lynnzgal Jun 18,2012 8:02 pm || Up

          Well, they brought Sir Paul, who’s birthday it is today. He was AMAZING,and so was everyone I met there. My bff from Chi and I got together for that, but we didn’t have seats together, The usher there found a way to do that without blinking an eye. He just said you’ll have to move if those people come for their seats. So refreshing!

    • SPWC Jun 18,2012 7:49 pm || Up

      (flashes wacchampions signal)

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
      • Englishmajor Jun 18,2012 8:13 pm || Up

        Well, he was my primary source for AEG’s reputation….

    • Kylianna Jun 18,2012 8:16 pm || Up

      So, more torn up field?

      If they can make getting concessions be less of a three-inning-sadness event, I will be pleased.

      If this really IS a secret plot to lure teams into somewhere, I will be unpleased.

      • Englishmajor Jun 18,2012 8:24 pm || Up

        I don’t really buy into the conspiracy theory. Not that AEG wouldn’t be above the poaching, I just don’t see that cozying up to the teams by taking over the contract is that crucial of an element when all three teams are openly looking at other places already. The AEG guy said that in fact, they want to improve the teams’ satisfaction with how the Coliseum is run and thus make them more inclined to stay — which again, is a he-would-say-that-wouldn’t-he, but that doesn’t make it untrue.

        After the AEG guy said this, one of the commissioners turned and looked at me and the KCBS guy and said “And you are recording this, right?” — big laughs all around.

        • Kylianna Jun 18,2012 9:11 pm || Up

          Yeah, I figure they’re just in to make some cash and make things suck less, but. Y’know. This team, man. This team. It makes me jump at shadows.

          That’s kind of totally amusing and awesome.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 18,2012 8:27 pm || Up

      I think this is good for A’s fans too. The team poaching thing seems like a red herring to me…if one of the teams leaves the Coliseum, it’s not going to be because AEG came in deliberately made itlook worse than it already is. What are they gonna do, make the sewage leaks worse?

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • ptbnl Jun 18,2012 8:34 pm || Up

        Hook the leak up to the root beer supply lines.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • andeux Jun 18,2012 8:45 pm || Up

        They could downgrade the computerized cash registers at the concession stands. Perhaps to a punchcard system.

        TINSTAAFK
        • ptbnl Jun 18,2012 9:02 pm || Up

          Or adopt the old Soviet model – one line to order, another to pay, and a 3rd to collect.

          If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
        • JamesV Jun 19,2012 12:31 am || Up

          At least the people working them wouldn’t take 15 minutes to find where to press the button for a hot dog.

    • DFA Jun 18,2012 11:06 pm || Up

      is AEG union? Our people have been worried about a non union contractor coming in.

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
      • Englishmajor Jun 19,2012 8:20 am || Up

        I can’t imagine a public entity in the Bay Area approving something that didn’t protect existing contracts, at the least. I didn’t hear a reference to it in the brief discussion yesterday, but that’s not surprising because the board had already discussed this proposal several times at length. The RFP for bidders stipulated a plan for “maintaining and retaining current employees and labor agreements (including a plan for working with unions to improve service and make union employees feel motivated to provide excellent service)”.

        • DFA Jun 19,2012 9:54 am || Up

          Were all good. Theyre the ones that do staples center which is under us.

          In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 19,2012 8:27 am || Up

        I’d guess AEG works within the hiring conventions of whichever local contract it picks up (ie union in CA, probably not in Houston).

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  14. lynnzgal Jun 18,2012 10:16 pm

    And now my thread comes with Internal Server Error.

    I get it.

    • SPWC Jun 18,2012 10:40 pm || Up

      I was raised to be paranoid and believe in conspiracy theories. Even though I’m calmer and less suspicious now, I still think “Wild Monkey Attack” whenever there’s a server issue here.

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
      • nevermoor Jun 18,2012 11:06 pm || Up

        He would have to become a much better hacker than he is.

        Also, I sincerely hope he has just moved on (at least until he feels like coming back as old monkey). Obviously it wasn’t a good place for him when he left.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • lynnzgal Jun 18,2012 11:19 pm || Up

          I never even thought about this. I don’t frequent enough places to worry about it.

        • DFA Jun 18,2012 11:21 pm || Up

          I was definitely picturing baboons invading a server farm rather than someone called Monkey being nefarious.

          In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
        • sslinger Jun 18,2012 11:36 pm || Up

          Seeing as I’ve unleashed my Tim Minchin love on another thread, here it would seem to be appropriate to issue some full on mb bait.

          • nevermoor Jun 18,2012 11:46 pm || Up

            I was just shown that video about a week ago.

            Funny stuff.

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
            • sslinger Jun 18,2012 11:50 pm || Up

              Yeah, he’s pretty good. I hope you check out the other one I linked relative to boobs, if you haven’t already seen it. I think Storm is actually my favorite of his.

  15. DFA Jun 19,2012 12:07 pm

    Reasons why the Nationals should be the Senators: Bryce Harper/Clowns Edition

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
  16. Englishmajor Jun 19,2012 2:11 pm

    If you missed Fresh Air this afternoon: Bob Ojeda on Pitching Through the Pain. Really good stuff. The interview had begun when I turned my car on to leave work, so the first thing I heard was Ojeda talking about unnatural arm movements, and I wasn’t sure if I was listening to KQED or 95.7. Then after about 15 seconds, when no one interrupted him or laughed over him, I figured it had to be the former.

    On a completely non-baseball note, yesterday’s Fresh Air on the new book about Superman was fascinating too.

  17. FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 19,2012 5:49 pm

    Hey Rangers, quick, hire Vince!

    During the eighth inning Monday night in San Diego, (Texas Rangers TV play-by-play announcer Dave) Barnett said a runner was on “fifth” base after a “botched robbery.” He then mentioned a “henchman” before the broadcast went silent for several seconds.

    In a statement Tuesday, the Rangers said Barnett would be evaluated over the “next few days” and miss the rest of the San Diego series.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • beebo Jun 19,2012 6:01 pm || Up

      At least he didn’t sound like Mike Tyson this morning on the Today Show!

    • SPWC Jun 19,2012 6:09 pm || Up

      Maybe we can trade Vince for a AAA broadcaster and a reliever. Frankly, I’d trade him for a turkey sandwich and not even insist upon condiments.

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
    • Poppy Jun 19,2012 6:09 pm || Up

      Maybe he was just trying to buancast.

      There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
  18. nevermoor Jun 20,2012 10:49 am

    XKCD science nerd bait. It’s a big big big big galaxy.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • ptbnl Jun 20,2012 11:06 am || Up

      There are lots of planets, for sure, but collectively they’re still smaller than the Sun.

      The really big thing about space is, well, the space.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • SPWC Jun 20,2012 2:20 pm || Up

        I would be more down with Cosmological Principle if I could add an extra “W” to FLRW… WONKA!

        \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
        • colin Jun 20,2012 2:48 pm || Up

          Is FLRW how we are supposed to refer to it? I always call it the FRW metric — I’ve been giving Lemaitre the shaft all this time!

          • SPWC Jun 20,2012 2:54 pm || Up

            What’s sad about the whole affair is the fact that that was the best joke I could come up with after three hours of cracking out on a cosmology hyperlink binge.

            \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
    • AV Jun 20,2012 11:14 am || Up

      all i see is “15.” i guess i’m color blind.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • colin Jun 20,2012 2:07 pm || Up

      I just can’t get that excited about exoplanets, though it seems like every other person in my department is studying them.

  19. nevermoor Jun 20,2012 11:23 am

    If you can’t trust ConAgra, who can you trust?

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • SPWC Jun 20,2012 2:22 pm || Up

      Meh. Ancient dietary rules are dumb. ConAgra are greedy crooks. Everybody loses.

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
  20. nevermoor Jun 20,2012 11:23 am
    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • beebo Jun 20,2012 11:27 am || Up

      Invisible step ladder!

    • JamesV Jun 20,2012 11:28 am || Up

      • nevermoor Jun 20,2012 11:43 am || Up

        Strong retort

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • JamesV Jun 20,2012 11:48 am || Up

          Well, one was from a win, the other was just from pregame.

  21. nevermoor Jun 20,2012 11:25 am

    Physics is fun:

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • colin Jun 20,2012 2:12 pm || Up

      Those videos are awesome. I understand what he is saying, and have a pretty good idea of the dynamics, but it is still so counter-intuitive to watch.

      • nevermoor Jun 20,2012 2:22 pm || Up

        Right. I mean the pre-drop length is based upon gravity vs. the spring effect, so it makes sense that gravity would then pull the COM down at the same rate the spring effect condenses. Just bizarre to see it so perfectly.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • colin Jun 20,2012 2:46 pm || Up

          Besides the fact that you need high speed video to really appreciate it, I probably have never really waited for a slinky to reach that stationary stretched out state before dropping it.

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