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24 thoughts on “Forbes 2012 MLB report

  1. rubesandbabes Mar 22,2012 10:22 am

    A’s reported operating income way down from previous years. From $23mil down to $14.6mil. Will the team be taking the bus this year?

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    • AV Mar 22,2012 12:14 pm || Up

      the coke machine deal expired. welcome to oakland.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  2. MikeV Mar 22,2012 10:50 am
    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

    • andeux Mar 22,2012 10:58 am || Up

      It’s after Purim and that guy’s still around?

      TINSTAAFK
      • PDXAthleticsfan Mar 22,2012 11:09 am || Up

        Impaling himself on his own words. If only everyone else actually realized it.

        A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
    • monkeyball Mar 22,2012 11:23 am || Up

      THT has no better idea what a player is worth than you or I do. Keep guessing guys

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • PDXAthleticsfan Mar 22,2012 11:25 am || Up

        A neurosurgeon has no better idea how to fix your aneurism than you or I do. Keep drilling guys.

        A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
      • Future Ed Mar 22,2012 11:27 am || Up

        Al gore has no better idea what is causing global temperatures to rise than you or I do. Keep guessing guys.

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • grover Mar 22,2012 11:28 am || Up

          But that one’s true…

          • nevermoor Mar 22,2012 2:41 pm || Up

            Well, it’s true for me (he and I both just read the reports of scientists).

            It’s not true for nearly half the country…

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • elcroata Mar 23,2012 9:52 am || Up

      Jon Heyman is probably my least favorite writer

      Because survival is insufficient
  3. Glorious Mundy Mar 22,2012 11:00 am

    It is hard to see why Wolff kept Crowley, who since taking his current job following the 1998 season has done nothing noticeable to improve the team.

    What exactly is Crowley supposed to be doing, anyway?

    • Future Ed Mar 22,2012 11:03 am || Up

      Spend 110% of his time raising money

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • monkeyball Mar 22,2012 11:24 am || Up

      It is hard to see why Fisher kept Wolff, who since taking his current job following the 2005 season has done nothing noticeable to improve the stadium.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  4. Future Ed Mar 22,2012 12:37 pm
    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • dmoas Mar 22,2012 6:43 pm || Up

      I don’t see anywhere in that article where they talk about stadiums helping existing local businesses. But holy shit does it look like it’s a bad deal to build a SimCity 2000 Arco.

  5. TJ Mar 22,2012 2:46 pm

    Team values of AL West:
    #7 Rangers
    #8 Angels
    #12 Mariners
    #13 Astros
    FIFTY FEET OF CRAP
    #30 Athletics (dead last)

    Being an A’s fan is really going to suck for a long time.

    • AV Mar 22,2012 2:52 pm || Up

      excuse me please, is that pronounced “beeg gäp?” or “fiph tee phéët ov krÃ¥p?”

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • MikeV Mar 22,2012 2:53 pm || Up

      Fixed.

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

    • aardvark Mar 22,2012 9:58 pm || Up

      Wait, the Astros are the 13th most valuable MLB team?

      • Glorious Mundy Mar 22,2012 10:02 pm || Up

        They have a big ass media market all to themselves. That’s a lot of potential dollars even if they are not currently exploiting it.

  6. rubesandbabes Mar 23,2012 7:14 am

    Revenues don’t really reflect recent attendance decline. Every year it’s $159-161mil for the A’s in revenue.

    At a glance, looks like the A’s make a pre-tax annual profit of $60 million. Good job!

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    • grover Mar 24,2012 11:58 am || Up

      Maybe I misunderstand how they calculate revenue, but doesn’t that $159-161 million include revenue sharing from MLB?

      • rubesandbabes Mar 24,2012 3:04 pm || Up

        Yes, assumed to include $32(?) million, perhaps a steady number for the A’s going back 3-5 years.

        The Forbes web pages are not too intuitive for clicking through to find the applicable fine print.

        ==

        Tempting the A’s finances like a crossword puzzle, using the revenue components 1) ticket sales, t-shirt sales, parking and non TV/radio local advertising, 2) national TV contract, 3) local TV contract, and 4) the various MLB $ pools, mainly, but not only MLB Revenue Sharing,

        the conclusion is that there are some large $$ numbers in each of the components, reaching to $161mil in annual revenues according to Forbes.

        ==

        2011 – A’s already core attendance declined. Forbes’ estimated revenue per fan decreased $2, now $37 down from $39.

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