- Mick Jagger as Ruper Murdoch manque? Sure, I’ll buy that.
- Birthing bad
- Tony Baloney should be in FKin jail
- I thought “Upmarket Jeff Foxworthy” was pretty good, but this is better. Also, Ents (Charlie Pierce is great).
- Ice Cream
- DEMORATS BOOED JEEZUS!!1!
- This whole McCourt thing really has the potential to get UG-LEE
- Nice Ostler (!) profile of Jemile
- Who do you like in the GOP primary (ZING!)?
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WTF?!? She’s brown aint she?
Hey. This ain’t Arizona.
Not poor enough.
MAYBE YOU SHOULD READ THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!!!!! /teaparty
More past tense…
I really don’t want him to wind up in SF. I might lose Mrs. N to the dark side.
Once you go black (and orange) … ?
Might be kind of fun to see how they line up four or five guys for relays he starts from right CF…
It occurs to me that if Coco fails to become a Type B, wouldn’t it make sense to sign him to a one year deal regardless of the stadium? If we have to “get fan interest” we need a center fielder. If we need to rebuild, giving him another year to reach Type-B (and who knows, possibly Type-A) status would benefit a rebuild, particularly with no real center fielder next year.
I think there’s a good chance someone will offer Coco a multi-year deal. In which case, your idea isn’t going to fly.
The real question is: Do the A’s want to invest 2-3 years on Crisp?
Even if they do, would Crisp have any interest in committing to the A’s? Oakland is going to be a very tough sell to any FA with ability and an ego. Management has unambiguously stated they’re treading water until a ballpark plan is ready to move forward, and until then you’re looking at a team with low attendance, miniscule local TV ratings and no presence at all on national television. Baseball Siberia. I hope they’ve at least fixed the sewage issues at the Coliseum. Honestly, I’d tell my agent to put Oakland’s offer at the bottom of the pile. If Oakland’s offer is the only one I’m getting that’s a different story.
I’d sign him to a 2 + option deal. Let’s face it, there’s nobody who will be able to play CF for another few seasons anyway. Choice is 2014 at best, Green still has to learn the position.
Thanks, and go As.
I’ve got a plan to get starting caliber CF play in 2012 for $850,000.
I’m listening
Thanks, and go As.
Rajai DavisCarlos GomezWho are we giving up,
JJ HardyCliff Pennington?Thanks, and go As.
Nope.
Spill it, puppet!
Thanks, and go As.
I can think of 4 ways to trade for the guy…
David Sappelt.
Back-up OF in Cincy, average strike zone control, below-average power for the corner. Contact hitter. Good speed but not a high percentage SB threat. Above average CFer with RF arm strength. Murders LHP (.410 in ’10, .355 in ’11). He slots as a 4th OF, bats RH. Platoon him and Jermaine Mitchell. I think Mitchell has made some real progress but he can’t hit lefties.
Why wouldn’t we just let Sappelt play full time?
I’m not sure he’s a legit starter. Get him with the expectation (and price) of a platoon player and if he blossoms into more than bueno.
His numbers superficially look better than anything weve got slated for the OF right now.
I still want to give Mitchell a shot.
B12?
Im fine with that. We should completely commit to rebuilding to see what we have.
As someone whose sister just spent two years trying to get into Med school (and will be starting at Temple next year), this couldn’t be more true.
As the cosm
etologist’s cartel, huh?FKing wow!
I had totally forgotten that back in the day, tv stations used to do editorials and sermonettes and heaven forbid, not sell informercials from 1am-6am, but actually sign off.
aw shitFK, it wouldn’t embed.
Oh well, if any of you are crazy/bored enough to watch an old station sign off, editorial, sermonette, and a shitload of gratuitous Don Pardo, here it is.
Believe it or not, I don’t remember TV signoffs, even though I’m old enough to have spent my childhood with a TV that had actual KNOBS on it and received broadcasts via a rooftop antenna. I guess I wasn’t up much after midnight (or just not with the TV on).
Funny, I do. Always with the Nation Anthem. Which is just horribly weird to me.
Got to be Nation’s!
Does anyone have enough interest in the case to have an opinion about Amanda Knox? I’ve only just started reading about the current appeal, didn’t really follow the first trials, and the only conclusion I’ve come to so far is that I sure hope I never get caught up in the Italian justice system. It sounds awful.
From various Italian coworkers over the years, I sense the only thing about Italy I’m missing is the food.
Well, the Vatican and other churches are pretty damn spectacular.
I meant on a day-to-day basis. I would like to visit Italy one day.
Visit one day, stay for life… in prison.
It really is an amazing place. Been twice.
Yeah. Rome might be my favorite city I’ve ever visited. Rome + Florence is pretty far past Paris + [French City]
Haven’t been to Rome, just florence and venice
Two of my favorite Italian jaunts:
Hitchhiking from Cambridge to Corfu and back one college summer, picking up a ride with a shocking pink bus load of Swedes on the ferry from Corfu to Bari and spending a week driving the length of Italy with them.
Immediately following my first Burning Man going to a physics summer school in a medieval monastery perched on the edge of a cliff in Sicily – Black Rock City to Erice was quite a contrast of cultures.
Food, wine, art, architecture, scenery, people, gelato, grappa.
And you can just say that you were following their leaders example
Odds that a non-EC FKer posts a link to croatiantimes.com were pretty low…
yeah I thought about that irony
Yeah, I subscribe to sloveniantimes.com
More of a Montenegro Press-Democrat man myself.
In former Serbian Union, Montenegro Democrat man presses YOU.
Um …
Yes, apparently her lawyer has analogized her to Jessica Rabbit, Amelie, and Venus in Furs over the course of several trials. I take from this that Italian jurors best understand cases which are laid out in Hollywood terms.
Well, her cell was luxury compared to elsewhere and you can’t really say that US courts are doing a better job in comparison, or?
They’re doing a hell of a lot better than Georgia, for example.
My thought exactly.
Also, if the court’s decision is correct, she will have spent about one year in jail as an innocent person. She’ll cash in on it for seven figures, so it’s not such a horrible deal for her personally.
You mean fame-based, yes? I’d be shocked if Italy paid her anything like that.
Yeah, that’s what I meant – the interview deal, the book deal, the movie deal…
Who is much more fucked up (again if the courts ruled correctly) is her Italian BF. He spent 3 more years in jail as an innocent person than she did, and will get squat out of it.
And as for official reimbursement, considering that US originally paid only $65k per killed person and let Ashby and Schweitzer walk free, I don’t think that Italians are too hot about paying anything to her. That and they don’t have any money anyway…
I am confused about the slander charge. Are they saying she took the police interrogation bait and fingered another guy in the crime? That is SOP here in the US.
What’s SOP?
The slander was not overturned, the three years for that stand, if that’s what you are asking.
Standard Operating procedure. Interrogators has a hunch so he put words in witnesses mouths and the witness parrots them, police then investigate based on their hunch and now are able to get warrants based on witness statement, it goes nowhere and is forgotten
Yeah, but saying that you were at the crime scene, saw the guy there and heard the victim’s screams while the alleged murderer was in her room is pretty much not nice thing to say, is it? Especially when you later say you weren’t there at all.
If someone said that about me, I’d want them to rot in jail. A real one…
No, it’s not “nice” but I guess you’re not familiar with how common it is for people to break down after hours of questioning and confess (and also implicate others) to crimes they had nothing to do with.
Holding those people liable for the words that (as Ed said) the police put in their mouths is a step in the wrong direction.
the little I know about this case comes from mainstream media in the last 48 hours. The evidence does seem on the weak side.
I’m a little more familiar with questioning than you might guess.
On what evidence are you basing the assumption that police told her to implicate the wrong guy? And even if they did (which is not all that compatible with widely accepted theory that they were in a witch hunt after pretty American girl) – had this guy not miraculously come up with a rock solid alibi, he likely would have still been in jail based on a false affidavit. So, are you saying that being tired and scared justifies potentially ruining somebody’s life and that you should not be held accountable for it at all?
I would never guess there is something you don’t have experience with.
I don’t know anything about the particular circumstances of her interrogation. I have read, in the US mainstream media FWIW, that she was questions for multiple hours.
I have watched well over a thousand hours of police interrogations from probably about a dozen or so California agencies and the feds. I am extrapolating from my experiences to make my wholly made up “hunch” that the police did the same thing in this case.
Also, I am not saying its justified, but false confessions or false accusations are very very common after moderate psychological pressure is applied to the subject. Especially with young naive people that have no experience or frame of reference.
Again, I have no more insight into this than I have read in the AP stories and I have a distinct bias towards the defense in any case. It just seems wrong to criminalize something that is a product of police art.
I’d gladly not have those particular experiences.
I don’t know enough, either. I have read some US and Italian media reports and nobody seems to have the definite answer to what her motives where when she made her false accusation. Generally, I agree, if anyone was forced to say something, they should not be held criminally accountable for it, but I don’t think it’s always that simple. And the question is – how many people were unjustly convicted because of false accusations? Would she have stepped away from what she said had it come to a trial of that immigrant?
Or could she without going further down the rabbit hole?
In the US many more poeple are convicted on false accusations than should be
I don’t think it’s a question of justifying anything. It’s an empirical fact that many (not all, but perhaps most) people will admit to just about anything under prolonged and intense questioning. If your goal is to discourage false statements implicating others (a worthy goal, to be sure), do you really think that criminalizing statements given under those circumstances is going to accomplish anything. I sure as hell don’t. Remember, we’re talking about circumstances where many people will confess to murder’s they didn’t commit – self-interest of the “oh no, Patrick might sue me for slander” is simply not part of the calculation.
Look, like Ed what I know of this case comes mostly from the popular press. Yes, that means it may be slanted (though some of the articles I read went into quite a bit of detail about the evidence and the course of the investigation). And yes, many of those articles only get written because she is a pretty white American girl. (A similar case here with less attractive subjects was the West Memphis Three, also recently freed.) But that latter fact is no excuse for a backlash that tries to turn her into a perpetrator, rather than a victim of the injustice.
I guess “prolonged and intense” questioning is a wide term. It sounds here as if she were in Guantanamo, for chrissake.
I agree – the court ruled and it was decided that injustice has been done. It did its best to make good on that and I don’t like the backlash you mention, either. But I equally or more greatly dislike the 1000 times bigger backlash accusing Europe of treating Americans unfairly for the sake of being Americans. Again, the trial was not far away from where two fucking assholes killed 20 people and never served one day in jail for it, so any such whining is really hitting a sore spot
In former Yugoslavia, questioning is more familiar with you than you might guess.
heh.
true
I thought you were going to go with
“IDA get interrogated by a brutal regime, BWID…”
ONE MILLION LIRE!!!! SHE DEMANDS ONE MILLION LIRE!!!!!!!
Why take millions, when we can take … THOUSANDS!
Maybe he means seven figures in Italian Lira.
Ah, the good old times when I was a millionaire
I’m a turkish millionaire (in old lira).
In college, I played old lyre for the Turkish Millionaires
Re:#7, McDumbass is really trying to call Selig’s bluff and get his team booted from the league, isn’t he.
He really doesn’t have anything to lose by going scorched-earth. Plus, I think he called Saul.
Well, he loses the value of the team in sale (or half of it) if he gets booted.
Actually, worse than that, he gets sued for breach of contract by pretty much everyone when the Dodgers don’t play next season.
Snerk.
DFWAS
We are all prostitutes. Everyone has their price.
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Don’t invite Art Howe and Phillip Seymour Hoffman to the same party.
And Billy weighs in. Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose.
I like the way Howe wants to prove he’s not pigheaded and surly… by going on the radio and being pigheaded and surly.
Thanks, and go As.
As dickish responses go, that one’s pretty good.
Not Joe Morgan?
When I saw the movie I did think the portrayal was off, but as an adult I get the concept that sometimes you have to tinker to get the film to not be 17 hours of explaining EVERYTHING. Just like how I’ve seen a couple of people complain that DePo had already been here. End of the day this final product was not a documentary.
I keep wonder what Art wanted though. Would he have been happier if they had a detailed scene of Billy telling him he is not allowed to let anyone steal bases and explaining how he needs to stand in the dugout? Would that make him look like more of a winner??
I understand his frustration (though I haven’t yet seen the movie), but it’s not quite a full Zuckerberging since the movie isn’t all about Art.
I think thats easier to say when it wasn’t you.
No doubt. I wonder what the thought was around those characters though. DePo felt he was not protrayed accurately and got himself turned into a fictional name. I guess since they had taken time with him vs. the “villains” of the film. You don’t need a lot of time to get into their heads, they are just the mean establishment baseball types.
So I’m now working from some temporary office space near Montgomery Street BART, which looks to be roughly the midpoint of the monkeyball/nevermoor axis of kraut. Any recommendations for good lunch joints around here?
You can steal LB’s sammich here.
I don’t think I’ve ever bought lunch w/i a 5-minute radius of there. I’d probably take the F down Market to the Ferry Building and hit Acme or Boccalone or
Taylor’s RefresherGott’s or Out the Door.Isn’t that sorta down the street from that pub we ate at?
Thanks, and go As.
10/15-minute walk from Montgomery Sta to there.
burn off the calories from the beers and sammiches.
Thanks, and go As.
Hell, if you’re working near Mtgmy Sta and want to walk to/from beer, might as well hit the 21sr Am.
You probably have a muni pass. 12 minute walk is doable as an occasional thing though.
Thanks for the suggestions guys.
You should go to Lefty O’Douls once on general principles. The food is solid, not fantastic, but it’s real in a sea of BS tourist stuff. You’re far enough from my ‘hood that there aren’t really places I go, though I’ll be having dinner at Jasper’s on Friday following MB’s link.
You’re close to Bourbon and Branch, but that’s not a lunch suggestion.
It is if youre a character on Mad Men
IDA get wasted at lunch in the middle of my ad-agency workday. BWID …
Well, they usually go to places that at least serve food.
So,any good baseball games going on today?
not yet, but I’m still listening anyway.
I’m hoping the Blue Jays win today to go .500 and beat my least favorite team.