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The Waste Land 204

  1. Ba’al Almighty, but this is one of the dumbest, strawman- and logical fallacy-riddled things I’ve ever seen. Entirely deserving of the internet pileon it’s getting. (Also further evidence of the uselessness of Grantland.)
  2. Wow. I didn’t realize Ramon was having such an outstanding year (at the plate, anyway).
  3. All your questions answered about the Dodgers bankruptcy thing.
  4. More contraction-mongering. Ringolsby also picks up on my necessary expand-rosters-to-27 corollary — but misses the expand-the-DH corollary (also necessary: MLBPA won’t accept mere 4 additional bench jobs with loss of ~30 starting/frontline jobs).
  5. Norma Desmond Gacy Day
  6. cold, out of scale and out of touch with humanity #jonahlehrer

204 thoughts on “The Waste Land

  1. nevermoor Jun 28,2011 9:51 am

    You flubbed the title today.

    John Adams on Thomas Paine: “For such a mongrel between pig and puppy, begotten by a wild boar on a bitch wolf, never before in any age of the world was suffered by the poltroonery of mankind, to run through such a career of mischief.”

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • monkeyball Jun 28,2011 9:55 am || Up

      Bitch Wolff

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  2. monkeyball Jun 28,2011 9:51 am

    4.

    #athletics #rays

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    • Soaker Jun 28,2011 10:21 am || Up

      It hasn’t been my impression that quality of ownership is a problem with the Rays. Their problem is being in a stadium which was obsolete before the Rays even got there and which is located too far from most of the population in that part of Florida, similar to a Bay Area stadium being located someplace like Novato.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • Leopold Bloom Jun 28,2011 10:42 am || Up

        Well, that’s kind of right. The stadium is abso-fucking-lutely miserable. It’s a horrible place to see baseball. The tickets are insanely overpriced (at least 2008 gave them some justification, but they’d been charging that much for a decade prior). There is no rhyme or reason to any pricing to the parking–it was randomly free on some occasions and cost $30 on others. There was no access to mass transit, which is kind of low priority for Florida as a whole. Just a bad time. Makes the A’s experience seem enlightened.

        That said, there are people in St. Pete. Novato’s not real accurate. More like a single team Bay Area and having it where the Coliseum is.

        As a side note, the bus system in Sarasota goes by the acronym SCAT.

        • monkeyball Jun 28,2011 10:47 am || Up

          St Petersburg Optimal Organization Rover

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        • Soaker Jun 28,2011 11:03 am || Up

          The Sternberg ownership seems to be a big improvement over the original expansion franchise ownership. The recent ESPN rankings show the Rays as #2 in overall fan affordability among 122 franchises in the Big 4 sports (Slegna #1, A’s #12 in MLB and #26 overall).

          By moving the team over to Tampa you’d be closer to more potential customers locally and also would have an easier time drawing from Orlando. That would more than offset the loss of convenience for St. Pete and Sarasota/Bradenton and points south. This is the difference between the A’s and Rays geographical situations; Oakland is well located for the A’s traditional fan base in Alameda and Contra Costa Counties and by going to San Jose you wouldn’t be adding to your customer base but rather just replacing those two counties with Santa Clara County.

          The A’s stay in Oakland has been 44 years vs. 14 years for the Rays in St. Pete. I’m sure there are some people who want the Rays to stay in St. Pete but the roots aren’t deep enough that a move to Tampa would anger that many people. I don’t see “Keep Our Rays in St. Pete” banners when I watch their games. Bottom line, I don’t know of any “extraordinary unhappiness” by the community directed at Sternberg that would be comparable to what we see directed at Lew.

          What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
          • Leopold Bloom Jun 28,2011 11:15 am || Up

            I’m not quite sure what your point is.

            Yeah, they should move away from the abomination of a ballpark.

            Also, unless there’s been drastic changes in their pricing structure, there’s no way in hell they are more affordable than the A’s.

            • monkeyball Jun 28,2011 11:25 am || Up

              He’s countering my facile comparison of local disfavor for the ownership regimes of LAD, OAK, TBA. Point certainly taken … although, as with Crywolffisher, Sternberg is in a situation of his own choosing/devising, and they haven’t been able to extricate themselves with the facility/economy they promised.

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              • Leopold Bloom Jun 28,2011 11:32 am || Up

                It darkly amuses me that the Giants could have ended up there. What a different world that would have been for all of us.

                • dmoas Jun 28,2011 7:41 pm || Up

                  It would be… HEAVEN. (dreams wistfully)

      • dmoas Jun 28,2011 7:39 pm || Up

        Don’t knock it, Novato has land that could probably be used. Horrible highways for the increased traffic, no mass transit worth talking about and SNimbys, but we gots land!

  3. Leopold Bloom Jun 28,2011 9:51 am

    I think we are in rats’ alley
    Where the dead men lost their bones.

  4. nevermoor Jun 28,2011 9:53 am
    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  5. nevermoor Jun 28,2011 9:54 am
    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  6. nevermoor Jun 28,2011 9:54 am

    If Obama would just use the bully pulpit, all of this would become untrue.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  7. nevermoor Jun 28,2011 10:05 am

    1. I dunno. I mean, yes there are straw men and yes some of the points are stupid. But advanced analysis of team sports is waaaaaaaaay behind baseball.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • monkeyball Jun 28,2011 11:39 am || Up
      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • DFA Jun 28,2011 3:54 pm || Up

      Right I mean this is the biggest problem with it. Sabermetrics works because its baseball and there is so little team interaction. The part of baseball that we fail to understand the value of the most is where there is the most team interaction.

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
  8. nevermoor Jun 28,2011 10:09 am

    6: Christ but people are stupid.

    That’s a 100% win for the area, which is why I’m sure they’ll block it.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  9. Leopold Bloom Jun 28,2011 10:19 am

    So, I went from Firefox to Google Chrome back to Firefox. Firefox seems and looks clunky now…

    • nevermoor Jun 28,2011 10:36 am || Up

      It’s probably faster though.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • Leopold Bloom Jun 28,2011 10:44 am || Up

        LOL–I shit you not–“Server Not Found”

        I got Firefox 5.0, though…

      • JediLeroy Jun 28,2011 3:51 pm || Up

        Chrome is much faster for me, but for some strange reason, there are a handful of sites that just won’t load. Actually, come to think of it, they won’t load on Firefox either, some of the time.

        az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
        • nevermoor Jun 28,2011 4:36 pm || Up

          There are still sites that are IE only, because they hire shitty programmers (or, in rare cases, because they have to be to leverage some technology or other)

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • JediLeroy Jun 28,2011 6:53 pm || Up

            I’m talkin’ major sites like Facebook and RottenTomatoes. Sometimes they load fine, sometimes the formatting breaks and no images load. I’ve tried emptying the cache, deleting cookies, updating Java and flash, and a bunch of other stuff. I’m beginning to wonder if it’s an adblock issue–but it’s only on my Mac.

            az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
            • dmoas Jun 28,2011 7:43 pm || Up

              It’s an Ad-Block issue. Their programming is getting “better”. I had the same issue with Facebook, once i turned off ad-block and reloaded, it worked fine.

              • JediLeroy Jun 28,2011 8:52 pm || Up

                Thanks–I’ll be sure to try that out when I get home. I guess I could always add format-breaking sites to the whitelist.

                az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
                • nevermoor Jun 29,2011 12:31 am || Up

                  If you’re using Firefox you should be using AdBlockPlus, not regular ad block. It isn’t a program that identifies types of ads, instead it has a global blacklist that gets updated and tweaked all the time. It isn’t perfect (you need to whitelist some things to make new gameday work, for example) but that’s generally by design as sites want you to disable your adblock.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • JediLeroy Jun 29,2011 12:37 am || Up

                  Both Firefox and Chrome are actually using AdBlockPlus on my mac.

                  az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
                • dmoas Jun 29,2011 7:04 am || Up

                  Sites are starting to put key parts of their normal site content under frequently blocked ad tags making their site unviewable even under ABP. Now the balls in ABP’s court to figure out how to work around them.

                • suspicious coin Jun 29,2011 11:34 pm || Up

                  Yeah ABP, fix it quick and fix it free!

  10. aardvark Jun 28,2011 11:29 am

    Now THAT’S a windup!

  11. monkeyball Jun 28,2011 11:38 am

    a fall guy, a servant, a good friend or a decoy … A person you control … yet cannot be held accountable for its actions.

    Suresure — some jerk shell corporation we can really push around.

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  12. monkeyball Jun 28,2011 11:41 am

    Snow monkey chillin’ in a hot spring? Snow monkey chillin’ in a hot spring.

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  13. monkeyball Jun 28,2011 11:42 am

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • Leopold Bloom Jun 28,2011 11:45 am || Up

      …that’s about the same amount of time Giambi was out of an A’s uniform.

    • Soaker Jun 28,2011 11:58 am || Up

      It’s too bad Bobby Cox retired from the Braves at the end of last season. That would be the all-arteriosclerosis division. The NL East managers are:
      Jack McKeon, Florida: 80
      Bobby Cox, Atlanta: 70
      Davey Johnson, Washington: 68
      Charlie Manuel, Philadelphia: 67
      Terry Collins, New York: 62
      Fredi Gonzalez, Atlanta: 47

      Watching a little bit of the Marlins over the weekend and the Nationals last night, McKeon looks great for 80 while Johnson seems to be an old 68. Also, did I see Johnson reach into his pouch of Red Man and stuff a chaw into his mouth? Cringe.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  14. monkeyball Jun 28,2011 12:17 pm
    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • Leopold Bloom Jun 28,2011 12:18 pm || Up

      This means little to me.

    • nevermoor Jun 28,2011 12:19 pm || Up

      Although I find TJ profoundly overrated, that’s still a great thing for Nob Hill.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • monkeyball Jun 28,2011 12:24 pm || Up

        JP loves “Tradey Joe’s.” Especially their banana-protein smoothie.

        Wonder what happened to the plans to put a Safeway in there as the bottom floor of a mixed-use mid-rise“This project is in conceptual design.” Back to square 1, I guess. 2012 opening date wouldn’t be time enough for a new building on the site — presumably just a renovation of the existing pseudo-natatorium Cala.

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        • monkeyball Jun 28,2011 12:30 pm || Up

          Neat piece via the sfgate commenter who shared the first link. Interesting compositional choice in turning the wheelchair ramp 90 degrees.

          you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
        • Leopold Bloom Jun 28,2011 12:35 pm || Up

          LB loves TJ’s, too.

          But LB had to cancel on free ticket dates with Poppy AND FSU on consecutive nights because LB has $7 and a quarter tank of gas.

          I’m too fucking poor to go to free baseball games, FK. This cannot go on. I’m living a god damned Samuel Beckett play.

          • FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 28,2011 1:34 pm || Up

            My problem with Trader Joe’s is that after shopping there I still need to go to Safeway and the Berkeley Bowl; TJ’s stuff can be tasty and nicely priced, but it largely doesn’t take the place of otehr stuff I still have to buy.

            So, given that my date Bloom has cancelled for Wednesday, does anyone want to join me and use my extra ticket? I’ll be doing the cheapskate BART lot before game time (unless it’s freakin raining again; how bizarre is this?).

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
            • DFA Jun 28,2011 3:13 pm || Up

              I am not a fan of trader joe’s for many of the same reasons that you cite. For example if you buy their gin, which is pretty good for the price, you have to go somewhere else because they don’t sell tonic. But at the end of the day they sell very small quantities of food, over package everything, and if what you are looking for isn’t frozen you are better off going somewhere else.

              In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
              • monkeyball Jun 28,2011 3:19 pm || Up

                Yeah, while I’m a fan, I certainly recognize all those limitations. I have a set list of things I buy at TJ’s (bread, booze, dairy, laundry detergent, Doc Bronner’s), things I buy at Whole Paycheck (meat/poultry, olive oil, beer when on sale, Friday sales), things I buy at Safeway, etc.

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                • nevermoor Jun 28,2011 3:25 pm || Up

                  Costco/Rainbow + CSA box for us

                  Anything non-perishable or freezable from Costco, and a stop at the hippie store for milk/eggs/etc. fruit/veggies from the box. Every month or so we go to safeway for non-costco items.

                  TJ’s just wouldn’t really fit into that.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • DFA Jun 28,2011 3:47 pm || Up

                  What CSA do you do? Do you like them?

                  Im thinking of doing a meat CSA…. I love me my meat.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • nevermoor Jun 28,2011 4:34 pm || Up

                  We got the Capay Organic one as a wedding gift and have stuck with ’em.

                  They’re pretty good, and they do go up the coast for produce in some of the leaner months (for apples and stuff) which is fine with me.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • DFA Jun 28,2011 3:41 pm || Up

                  Lol I shop at none of those places.

                  Trader Joe’s bread sucks btw.
                  Whole Paycheck is evil
                  and Safeway’s food is just not very good.

                  Costco: Meat, Bread, Berries, Hard A, Cheese, Dried Figs, Asparagus, Potatoes, Brussel sprouts

                  Rainbow: Hippie shit, Bronners, Milk, pasta

                  Berkeley Bowl….. everything… good I love that store.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • monkeyball Jun 28,2011 3:56 pm || Up

                  I haven’t shopped at Costco, but I have a hard time imagining their meat or produce is any good (or any better than Safeway’s) or responsibly/reliably sourced.

                  Plastic (ie non-artisan) bread is plastic bread — I find TJ’s no less palatable than the major brands at Safeway, a whole lot better than WP’s store-brand bread, and consistently cheaper than either.

                  And I’d argue WP is (marginally) less “evil” than Safeway or Costco (CEO’s crackpot literary political views being irrelevant).

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                • andeux Jun 28,2011 4:36 pm || Up

                  I have heard good things about Costco’s meat – in particular that it’s USDA graded (usually choice or prime) unlike Safeway’s.

                  But for those who believe in urbanism either as a political movement or (like me) simply as a lifestyle choice I don’t see how shopping at Costco makes much sense unless you happen to have one in your neighborhood. I am an easy walk from Andronicos, Trader Joes, Monterey Market, Monterey Fish, Magnani’s, and two weekly farmers markets (and a Safeway that completely sucks), so getting on the freeway in order to get groceries would be bizarre.

                  TINSTAAFK
                • nevermoor Jun 28,2011 4:47 pm || Up

                  Yeah, definitely inconsistent with that.

                  That said, there’s one in SF (and right near Rainbow) so I don’t need to go far.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • DFA Jun 28,2011 5:00 pm || Up

                  Costco is three blocks from my house at 10th and Bryant. Im looking for new butchers in the city that won’t be at the Cal Mart Bryan’s level but will still be really good meat.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • batgirl Jun 29,2011 12:39 pm || Up

                  I’m pretty much on a weekly TJs/Monterrey Market or TJs/Berkeley Bowl system. Hardly ever need to go to Safeway (yay!)

                • nevermoor Jun 28,2011 4:37 pm || Up

                  You’re wrong about Costco. The quality is great, they do grass-fed, organic, etc. As long as you’re willing to eat meat fast (or freeze it) it’s the best place you can go.

                  Seriously, they’ve dramatically upped their quality from 5 years ago.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • monkeyball Jun 28,2011 4:43 pm || Up

                  Hunh. Interesting.

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                • DFA Jun 28,2011 4:58 pm || Up

                  Their beef has great taste and price. Chicken is Foster Farms, but they have the packs of thighs (individually wrapped per 4 thighs) for 99 cents a lb. Their lamb is also good.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • nevermoor Jun 28,2011 5:46 pm || Up

                  You can also buy fancier organic chicken if you want.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • DFA Jun 28,2011 5:02 pm || Up

                  Also Costco is union in many places. Whole paycheck is highly anti

                  also there is the whole paycheck thing. If Im going to spend that kind of money Im going to Berkeley Bowl, Rainbow, Andronico’s or Falletti’s

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • monkeyball Jun 28,2011 5:28 pm || Up

                  There’s a way to spend smart at WP. Their house brand is quite affordable for a lot of stuff.

                  you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
                • DFA Jun 28,2011 5:29 pm || Up

                  im sure there are ways to limit the damage… but they mostly apply to other places too.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • monkeyball Jun 28,2011 5:30 pm || Up

                  Trudat

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                • Leopold Bloom Jun 28,2011 5:38 pm || Up

                  I’m so with DFA here. Whole Foods is a massive fucking wolf in sheep’s clothing. I saw what they did to the independent hippie markets in Sonoma County 15 years ago and I see what they’re currently doing to the independent hippie markets in Sarasota right now. They’re fucking Walmart. They California Uber Alles in the form of a grocery store. Fuck. Them.

                • andeux Jun 28,2011 5:48 pm || Up

                  mb hearts Walmart too.

                  TINSTAAFK
                • monkeyball Jun 28,2011 6:06 pm || Up

                  And Starbuccio’s and Bill Neukom, too!

                  you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
                • Leopold Bloom Jun 28,2011 6:16 pm || Up

                  I kinda like Starbucks. And I think I’m kind of softening on the Giants.

                • FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 28,2011 6:21 pm || Up

                  Contrarily, I’ve become far more anti-Giants (used to range from agnostic to mild non-hate).

                  "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
                • dmoas Jun 28,2011 7:50 pm || Up

                  I went from complete and utter disdain to super-duper holy fucking shit I hate you mother fuckers, die die fucking die already complete and utter fucking hate for them.

                • nevermoor Jun 28,2011 7:17 pm || Up

                  I don’t mind starbucks. Big points for jumping early on the calorie labeling.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • batgirl Jun 29,2011 12:41 pm || Up

                  Pro-Giants and Pro-Raiders?!? My God man–look what you’ve become!!

                • Leopold Bloom Jun 30,2011 8:53 pm || Up

                  Didn’t say pro-Giants. Just less vitriol.

                  ——————————————————
                  I’m not allowed to reply to this comment so, I’m replying here:
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                  It’s like I don’t even know you anymore.
                  -DMOAS 9:24 6/30/11

                • Soaker Jun 28,2011 6:16 pm || Up

                  I’m trying to imagine you preparing a meal entirely with ingredients purchased at Grocery Outlet.

                  GO is good for laundry detergent, cleansers, soap, toothpaste, etc. but not actual food. Sometimes they have good deals on beer. Their wine selection is odd, a lot of $4 bottles from Australia. Some of it is OK, but others are the stuff you’d like to wrap up and send to Balfour after a terrible outing.

                  What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
                • dmoas Jun 28,2011 7:48 pm || Up

                  A decade ago, they were shelling out $3 more an hour to start than Target.

                • monkeyball Jun 29,2011 10:25 am || Up

                  Hope you’re not a fan of Major League:

                  We wanted to shoot the film in Cleveland, but we couldn’t because Cleveland was a union town and it was a million dollars cheaper to shoot it in Milwaukee.

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                • the dogfather Jun 29,2011 11:36 am || Up

                  Oh, the Lord can make you tumble,
                  An’ the Lord can make you churn.
                  The Lord can make you o-ver-flow…
                  But the Lord can’t make you pay union scale.

                  The meaning of life is not so much found, as it is Made. -- Opus
                • DFA Jun 29,2011 1:26 pm || Up

                  Well does illegally downloading it count?

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
              • nevermoor Jun 28,2011 3:22 pm || Up

                Honestly, their frozen stuff doesn’t taste all that good either.

                But it’s the packaged produce that drives me crazy.

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • DFA Jun 28,2011 3:47 pm || Up

                  Agreed. That really does it for me too. My gf loves them because she likes the deserts.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • monkeyball Jun 28,2011 6:25 pm || Up

                  I can see a good Slate article on the benefits of packaged produce.

                  (And TJ’s clamshell Persian cucumbers are uniformly excellent, and better and cheaper than the alternatives at WP and the FBFM. Their bagged Brussels sprouts are acceptable and cheap.)

                  you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
                • batgirl Jun 29,2011 12:42 pm || Up

                  Agreed-I hate their produce packaging.

                • batgirl Jun 30,2011 4:03 pm || Up

                  This seems completely unrealistic, but it’s worth striving for.

        • suspicious coin Jun 28,2011 10:24 pm || Up

          suspicious nickel loves Trader Joe’s because they have the kiddie-sized carts. Massive treat for him.

          We also have a multiple grocery store rotation: Costco, Costco, TJ’s (doubles as family bike ride), Costco, Costco, Safeway + Target,… TJ’s has some essential frozen items, sauces, etc that are easy to stock up on, so once every six weeks is generally sufficient.

          • JediLeroy Jun 28,2011 10:34 pm || Up

            TJ’s has good gyoza, if I remember correctly.

            I was always a big TJ’s fan for dried fruit and granola (& stuff).

            az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
            • suspicious coin Jun 28,2011 10:41 pm || Up

              mrs. coin loves their frozen gyoza. Their frozen breaded tilapia is a staple in our house, as are their stir fry and enchilada sauces, frozen sweet potato fries, and challah bread (for french toast).

              • JediLeroy Jun 28,2011 10:48 pm || Up

                Their frozen breaded tilapia is a staple in our house, as are their stir fry and enchilada sauces, frozen sweet potato fries, and challah bread (for french toast).

                Bookmarked for future reference.

                az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
                • suspicious coin Jun 28,2011 10:53 pm || Up

                • monkeyball Jun 29,2011 9:26 am || Up

                  That looks way too much like Mr Hankey.

                  you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
                • the dogfather Jun 29,2011 10:07 am || Up

                  More fiber’ll fix you right up.

                  The meaning of life is not so much found, as it is Made. -- Opus
                • monkeyball Jun 29,2011 10:15 am || Up

                  Challah ain’t the answer …

                  you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
                • nevermoor Jun 29,2011 12:32 am || Up

                  I’m a strong believer in stale Boudins for french toast.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • monkeyball Jun 29,2011 9:26 am || Up

            Some TJ’s have tiny carts. Requires recon missions.

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            • batgirl Jun 29,2011 12:44 pm || Up

              Love the tiny carts. Still can’t find that damn bear though.

            • suspicious coin Jun 29,2011 11:37 pm || Up

              Carts are win-win: nickel has function and I don’t have to push a cart around

  15. monkeyball Jun 28,2011 4:29 pm

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • nevermoor Jun 28,2011 4:37 pm || Up

      DL over/under date: A week from Friday.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • monkeyball Jun 28,2011 4:43 pm || Up

        I’ll take the under.

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      • andeux Jun 28,2011 4:43 pm || Up

        Hush.

        TINSTAAFK
      • DFA Jun 28,2011 5:04 pm || Up

        Date he goes on the DL or date its retroactively applied?

        In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
        • nevermoor Jun 28,2011 5:47 pm || Up

          Oooh. Good question.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • dmoas Jun 28,2011 7:51 pm || Up

        This friday or last friday? Either way, under.

    • suspicious coin Jun 28,2011 10:30 pm || Up

      Friday, friday, gonna get down (on the DL) on Friday…

  16. monkeyball Jun 28,2011 4:30 pm
    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 28,2011 5:17 pm || Up

      Still only in the seventh inning or so. CA Redev Asso will be filing its lawsuit as soon as Jerry signs the bills; given that voters passed Prop. 22 just this year, to prevent pretty much this exact kind of state taking of local revenues, many people believe the CRA case to be a strong one, possibly even resulting in immediate injunctive relief. OTOH, the state courts generally have been rather deferential to state lawmakers on budget matters lately, so it’s hard to say.

      Also, the ReD bills could screw San Jose’s ballpark as much or worse, if they force SJRA to sell assets to meet its obligation (which so peg at $63M, 1.5 times as much as ORA).

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • dmoas Jun 28,2011 7:53 pm || Up

        In the case of SJ, theoretically, that land could be sold to the A’s to meet that obligation, no?

        • FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 28,2011 8:07 pm || Up

          Yes, I believe that’s true, though many of the post-ReD implementation steps are really fuzzy, like how long would you have to liquidate land assets. It would be quite a statement if Wolffish made such a purchase while still in Bud’s blue-ribbon purgatory.

          For that matter, it would be a reasonable first rebuttal to the Ratto Theory (Lew doesn’t have the money to built in SJ either, anymore) if the team were to make such a land buy. And SJRA still doesn’t own 100% of the land.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • dmoas Jun 28,2011 8:18 pm || Up

            There’s a lot of fuzziness to the whole situation. I do know Lew has been quoted as saying they’d be willing to make that final land purchase if necessary (for whatever that’s worth).

            Honestly, what I’d love to see is for Wolffish to just say “fuck this shit, I’m building in SJ, Selig can go suck it.” Regardless of what people think of the Oakland/SJ thing, I love the idea of the A’s just breaking ground in “Giant’s” “territory” without permission and just building the stadium. Once it’s been built or under construction, I can pretty much guarantee you that there’s no way in hell MLB and Selig would keep the A’s from playing in a new stadium regardless of who’s territory they’re infringing on. You could replace SJ with SF, NY or any other territory that already has a team that *could* handled another team just fine. There’s really nothing MLB could do to stop a city or private entity from building a MLB caliber stadium on their own.

            • monkeyball Jun 28,2011 8:22 pm || Up

              You really haven’t been paying attention to the McCourt situation, have you.

              you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
              • dmoas Jun 28,2011 8:49 pm || Up

                I’m trying not to, thanks. Although, fun alternative to the above mentioned contraction. Contract the Rays & Dodgers. McCourt, go ahead and sign that TV contract, too bad your team is no longer playing in our league… Sadly, that just means the A’s move to LA… which would suck some serious ass.

                • monkeyball Jun 28,2011 9:14 pm || Up

                  Hunh. Contracting the Dodgers is an interesting idea.

                  But, yes, that would mean the A’s move south.

                  you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  17. monkeyball Jun 28,2011 4:30 pm

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • nevermoor Jun 28,2011 4:38 pm || Up

      Just in time!

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 28,2011 5:18 pm || Up

      So, Gio gets to represent the A’s at the ASG. Hope he carries his papers with him at all times.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Leopold Bloom Jun 28,2011 5:40 pm || Up

        After this last high-profile game versus Philadelphia (high profile for us anyhow), I would not yet count out Cahill for the ASG nod.

  18. MikeV Jun 28,2011 5:29 pm

    Any of you FKers wanna grab dinner? I’m suck in SF all week, alone, and I’m in a hotel in Union Square (Hilton)

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

    • monkeyball Jun 28,2011 6:39 pm || Up

      An offer too good to pass up:

      suck in SF all week, alone, and I’m in a hotel

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • dmoas Jun 28,2011 7:54 pm || Up

        [Gets on knees] It’s not Bloomy, but I guess he’ll do.

    • monkeyball Jun 28,2011 6:41 pm || Up

      I walk right by there on my way home every night. Still stuck at work, and already delinquent in parenting duties, so tonight’s probably out, except possibly a drink and a handshake.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • MikeV Jun 28,2011 7:40 pm || Up

        I could do that. If you’re not gone yet.

        And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

        Thanks, and go As.

        • monkeyball Jun 28,2011 7:48 pm || Up

          still at work, but the later i’m stuckat work, the more trouble i’m in if i stop on the way home

          you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
          • MikeV Jun 28,2011 8:20 pm || Up

            Oh. Um, well if you won’t get in trouble, email me? mike dot voelker at gmail dot com

            I’m just sitting here in my room. They have Pliny the Elder on tap at the little tavern thing downstairs here, too!

            And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

            Thanks, and go As.

            • monkeyball Jun 28,2011 8:24 pm || Up

              labarthe at same domain

              drinks unlikely tonight, but i’ll letcha know

              you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
              • MikeV Jun 28,2011 8:27 pm || Up

                Fair enough.

                Tentative plans for a frosty adult beverage with DFA on Thursday. You in for that?

                And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

                Thanks, and go As.

                • monkeyball Jun 28,2011 8:29 pm || Up

                  all signs point to yes

                  you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  19. andeux Jun 28,2011 6:37 pm

    Sacramento’s game tonight, that McCarthy was supposed to start, has been postponed. And they have an off-day tomorrow. So he’ll either have to wait until Thursday to pitch, or head back to Stockton and start tomorrow instead.

    TINSTAAFK
  20. Soaker Jun 28,2011 6:47 pm

    The initial attempt at a rescheduled first pitch time tonight is 7:30.

    Considering that the upcoming weekend is the annual Invasion of the Idiots at Tahoe Fourth of July, with hot weather in the forecast, and with USFS firefighters reportedly being exported to West Texas, some rain tonight sounds pretty good to me.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  21. FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 28,2011 7:28 pm

    Radio: No players even warming up yet. Melvin and Clay Wood walking around field pointing and talking; supposition is that they’re discussing whether field will be safe for play at all tonight. No more rain expected.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Soaker Jun 28,2011 7:32 pm || Up

      LB and his Townsend-loving friends need to tell Mr. Townsend that in the Bay Area freeways are not referred to as “the 101 and the 92”. Please.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 28,2011 7:37 pm || Up

        I’ve never had much of a dog in that fight. Back east it was always either letter-dubbed, like “I-95,” or specifically named, like the Schuylkill Expressway.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • MikeV Jun 28,2011 7:41 pm || Up

          adding the “the” is a distinctly so-cal thing.

          And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

          Thanks, and go As.

          • Soaker Jun 28,2011 8:01 pm || Up

            The freeway names never caught on in Northern California, except perhaps for “the Nimitz”. But “the Eastshore” and “the James Lick”, not so much. We’ve always referred to route numbers, 101 or 80 or 24. In Southern California the names were commonly used on the signage…”the Hollywood”, “the Santa Monica”, “the San Diego”, etc. At some point Caltrans decided to de-clutter the signs in L.A. by deleting the names and using only the route numbers. The habit of using the article seems to have hung around though, thus “the 5” and “the 405”. It sticks in my craw when someone tries to bring that usage to Northern California.

            What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
            • dmoas Jun 28,2011 8:20 pm || Up

              It’s nice when people do it, it’s like painting a giant sign on their forehead saying “I’m from SoCal.”

            • the dogfather Jun 29,2011 7:34 am || Up

              The Eastshore always confused me — are we talking about the land or the bay?

              /have to remember that everything is SF-centric, to the extent that the city rats even acknowledge the “East Bay’s” existence on this side of the earth’s edge.

              The meaning of life is not so much found, as it is Made. -- Opus
              • nevermoor Jun 29,2011 7:38 am || Up

                Wait… there’s something EAST of the Coliseum?

                I thought it was a wasteland.

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • the dogfather Jun 29,2011 7:43 am || Up

                  To the extent you DINKs consider kids a waste — it is.

                  The meaning of life is not so much found, as it is Made. -- Opus
                • nevermoor Jun 29,2011 7:47 am || Up

                  Just think how many vacations you can’t afford with kids!!!

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • the dogfather Jun 29,2011 7:59 am || Up

                  It’s worse — the ones you Do take with them before they’re about 5 — all those miserable, interminable trips to Dizlylan’ — they won’t remember. Just leave ’em with Gran-n-Gramps and go back to Scandals.

                  That said — DNA is destiny. Your turn will come.

                  The meaning of life is not so much found, as it is Made. -- Opus
                • nevermoor Jun 29,2011 8:03 am || Up

                  Considering one of my first trips with Mrs. N (when we were dating) was to Disney world.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • the dogfather Jun 29,2011 9:10 am || Up

                  She probably remembers it, at least.

                  The meaning of life is not so much found, as it is Made. -- Opus
                • nevermoor Jun 29,2011 9:21 am || Up

                  She sure does. We went on a drizzly Wednesday in September (she had a timeshare-recruitment offer) and there were essentially no lines.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
              • FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 29,2011 1:20 pm || Up

                Best thing about the Eastshore freeway is that if you’re heading, say, from Albany to the Bay Bridge, you are simultaneously on I-80 Westbound and I-580 Eastbound.

                "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
                • Poppy Jun 29,2011 4:16 pm || Up

                  I love that. I used to have a photo of that set of freeway signs, among other freeway signs that always amuse me (like “A Street Downtown” in Hayward).

                  There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
                • Soaker Jun 29,2011 4:33 pm || Up

                  Suburbs of Portland, Oregon:

                  What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
                • andeux Jun 29,2011 4:35 pm || Up

                  TINSTAAFK
                • monkeyball Jun 29,2011 4:44 pm || Up

                  Pity that one’s not 80 miles farther down the road.

                  you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
                • the dogfather Jun 29,2011 10:38 pm || Up

                  The meaning of life is not so much found, as it is Made. -- Opus
                • suspicious coin Jun 29,2011 11:45 pm || Up

                  Our bizarre family. habit, wmong other things, is to decorate our walls with weird signs from our travels. My favorite: a “yo robot” captioned will smith from spain.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 28,2011 7:40 pm || Up

      Now saying 8:15 first pitch.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • monkeyball Jun 28,2011 7:48 pm || Up

        Harden’s orthopedist is moonlighting as a weatherman

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
        • dmoas Jun 28,2011 7:59 pm || Up

          No, no, no. Harden’s weatherman is moonlighting as an orthopedist. Think about it, it explains a LOT.

    • dmoas Jun 28,2011 7:55 pm || Up

      Last I heard (though I wasn’t paying attention so don’t quote me) was 8:15.

  22. FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 28,2011 7:48 pm

    How many rain-delayed home start times does this make, five or so? I can’t remember the last time there were more than 2-3 in a season.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  23. FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 28,2011 8:17 pm

    First pitch! Gio in the unfamiliar green jersey.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • nevermoor Jun 29,2011 12:35 am || Up

      Booooo

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • batgirl Jun 29,2011 12:47 pm || Up

      He’s just naturally contrary. Oh the golds are in now, fine I’ll go green.

  24. suspicious coin Jun 28,2011 11:23 pm

    Mark Kotsay is working on his sixth straight year of sub-replacement level play (<0 bb-ref WAR). Anyone know what the longest such streak is? Impressively, Kotsay is getting it done on both sides of the ball, posting negative batting and fielding+position runs in each year, save for the +2 in 2007.

    • ptbnl Jun 29,2011 1:11 am || Up

      Juan Castro – 16 years and counting since 1996 (though to be fair, he did have WARs of 0.0 in 1999 – 2 games, 1 AB – and this year so far).

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • ptbnl Jun 29,2011 3:52 pm || Up

        And a belated nod to Bill Bergen, who, though he only managed 11 consecutive sub-zero seasons for the Superbas, Reds and Dodgers, still accumulated a career WAR of -17.6, far eclipsing Castro’s paltry -10.7.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • ptbnl Jun 29,2011 3:52 pm || Up

      Follow-up question: who are the bottom 10 Oakland A’s, measured by WAR?

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • monkeyball Jun 29,2011 4:06 pm || Up

        Career, or peak trough?

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • Soaker Jun 29,2011 4:12 pm || Up

        Oooh, good question; this will have me thinking for a while. Players who sucked but managed to hang around for a while, or who didn’t hang around that long but were surpassingly awful. The list should be littered with players from the late ’70’s and the Steve Boros/Jackie Moore era in the ’80’s. To start out I will Reach for the Peach and then I will go for a Piece of Cod.

        What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
        • monkeyball Jun 29,2011 4:17 pm || Up

          I won’t have to think Hard(en) but I will have to think Long.

          you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • Soaker Jun 29,2011 4:57 pm || Up

        I’ve checked a number of likely suspects and it’s very difficult to find players with negative WAR for their A’s careers unless you’re looking at position players from the 1977-1979 era; there you have a bunch with Mike Edwards, Dave Chalk and Glenn Burke in addition to Picciolo as mentioned above.

        My favorite Picciolo stat is his 25 bases on balls in 1720 career plate appearances.

        What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
        • ptbnl Jun 29,2011 10:27 pm || Up

          And one of those was intentional.

          If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
        • ptbnl Jun 30,2011 9:00 am || Up

          That covers almost everyone. #9 is the interesting one, with a 20-year career WAR of 13.6.

          Rank Player WAR From To
          1. Rob Picciolo -3.5 1977 1985
          2. Mike Edwards -2.6 1978 1980
          3. Larry Murray -2.4 1977 1979
          4. Dan Meyer -2.3 1982 1985
          5. Larry Brown -1.9 1971 1972
          6. Rich McKinney -1.8 1973 1977
          7. Dave Chalk -1.8 1979 1979
          8. Dell Alston -1.8 1978 1978
          9. xxxxxxxxx -1.7 1992 1995
          10. Joe Wallis -1.7 1978 1979

          If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
          • Soaker Jun 30,2011 9:10 am || Up

            Ah yes, TLR’s “Village Idiot” and a favorite target of Bill King, though Bill did soften his stance a bit in his last couple of years.

            I see your list includes position players only. Codiroli was -2.6 from 1982-1987.

            What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
          • nevermoor Jun 30,2011 9:22 am || Up

            Ruben Sierra?

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
            • ptbnl Jun 30,2011 9:30 am || Up

              Bingo.

              If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
            • Soaker Jun 30,2011 9:56 am || Up

              His 1993 season was bizarre. Overall WAR was -2.4. His oWAR was +0.1 as he managed to accumulate 101 RBIs with a .678 OPS. It seemed to me that season he was constantly hitting 3-run homers when the A’s were either up by 9 runs or, more often, when they were down by 9 (the Bash Brothers era pitching staff had aged and collapsed by then). Not too much offensive production in close games though. His dWAR in 1993 was a spectacular -2.5 or basically a full season of Custian outfield play. On the air Bill stated he felt Sierra was destroying his game through “excessive bodybuilding” (read: steroids).

              What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
              • nevermoor Jun 30,2011 10:03 am || Up

                I remember when we got him and I thought he was great. Then he wasn’t.

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  25. nevermoor Jun 29,2011 6:40 am

    Google+

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  26. the dogfather Jun 29,2011 8:57 am
    The meaning of life is not so much found, as it is Made. -- Opus
  27. nevermoor Jun 29,2011 2:37 pm
    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  28. FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 29,2011 5:37 pm

    Lew on radio w Townsend. Observes that SJ has eminent domain power vis 2 unbought parcels.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 29,2011 5:38 pm || Up

      Is meeting w Quan in July!

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 29,2011 5:39 pm || Up

        General tone is less “that door is closed” vis Oakland, though obv cautious.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 29,2011 5:40 pm || Up

          Still “SJ is Plan A, no plan B.”

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • monkeyball Jun 29,2011 5:43 pm || Up

      Anyone asking about the C word?

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • nevermoor Jun 29,2011 5:46 pm || Up

      Can, of course, != will.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 29,2011 5:50 pm || Up

        Sure. And Lew didn’t at all say it could-would-should happen. But I found even the observation interesting.

        No call-in Q&A, just CT.

        Someone post an early gamethread, it’ll make phoneposting easier.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • monkeyball Jun 29,2011 6:37 pm || Up
          you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  29. suspicious coin Jun 29,2011 11:52 pm

    LB8

    Man bites humps dog.

    • andeux Jun 30,2011 10:25 am || Up

      He would have gotten away with it if it weren’t for that meddling kid.

      TINSTAAFK
      • the dogfather Jun 30,2011 11:14 am || Up

        Ruh-roh!

        The meaning of life is not so much found, as it is Made. -- Opus
    • Leopold Bloom Jun 30,2011 9:02 pm || Up

      OF COURSE IT’S FLORIDA. Where else would it be?

  30. Poppy Jun 30,2011 1:20 am

    So… apparently I hear better than I read. 95/111.

    There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
    • obliquè Jun 30,2011 8:01 am || Up

      75/111, feeling quite stupid after seeing the answers.

      • nevermoor Jun 30,2011 9:00 am || Up

        85. I guess there’s a rule that we must all end in a 5.

        I forgot the reason she was contacting him.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • JediLeroy Jun 30,2011 3:39 pm || Up

          58. It’s been years since I saw it. I’m starting to wonder if a salbesque name change isn’t in order.

          az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
          • monkeyball Jun 30,2011 3:42 pm || Up

            “NormanBazardo”

            you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
          • nevermoor Jun 30,2011 3:55 pm || Up

            I have an alternate suggestion: rewatch ’em.

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • dmoas Jun 30,2011 6:27 pm || Up

      108, but totally cheated less than half way through. Which means I suck in more ways than one.

  31. nevermoor Jun 30,2011 11:26 am

    Republicans are assholes, and this time it really could take down the country.

    So when the GOP’s economic policy team sat down to make the strongest case they could for growth-inducing deficit reduction, they recommended a mix an 85:15 mix, not a 100:0 mix. And then, when the Obama administration agreed to an 83:17 mix, the Republican leadership walked out of the room and demanded that taxes be excluded from the deal altogether.

    (and, of course, Johnathan Allen is an asshole too)

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • monkeyball Jun 30,2011 11:51 am || Up

      I am incapable of seeing a story with “GOP” and “mix” in it without assuming that it also includes “frothy.”

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • monkeyball Jun 30,2011 11:53 am || Up

      Yeah, shit’s only gonna get uglier.

      GOP House leadership likely already has A’s of I drawn up for when Obama decides to go the “unconstitutional” route.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  32. nevermoor Jun 30,2011 11:28 am

    The birth of a zombie lie. I guarantee you’ll be seeing this in political comments for as long as this is an issue.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • monkeyball Jun 30,2011 11:56 am || Up

      This is going to be the more fruitful and longer-(un)lived one. Screw comments, this one is going to be on teevee for the next 16 months.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • nevermoor Jun 30,2011 12:05 pm || Up

        Yeah, but that one is less bizarrely specific.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  33. nevermoor Jun 30,2011 12:09 pm

    I find this surprising.

    You’d think the FEC would be a touch smarter than that.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • monkeyball Jun 30,2011 12:11 pm || Up

      That’s funny.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come

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