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21 Dec 2010  |  nevermoor  |Kraut on Kraut

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Alright people, listen up. I want you to drop (in) and give me 20 (ideas). This is not a grill.

So far, the things on my list are:

1) Seeing if updating to WP3 will break everything No WP3 for you guys.
2) A button to allow editors to move a whole thread to another place (if you dump a link in a non-grill, for example)
3) Comment self-editing for everyone
4) A look at the aggressiveness of replying comment indents
5) A look at permissions for our two groups of users (pre-random-cutoff, and post-random-cutoff

Give me more.

86 thoughts on “FK Tech Requests – This is not a grill”

  1. nevermoor Dec 21,2010 9:15 am

    Here at FK, we have the best tech support money can’t buy.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • ptbnl Dec 21,2010 9:18 am || Up

      Inspired by the above, having new unread posts be highlighted even if no-one has posted a comment yet.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • nevermoor Dec 21,2010 9:31 am || Up

        Good one.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • nevermoor Dec 21,2010 2:36 pm || Up

        Done. Unvisited zero comment posts will show up in the unread comments widget showing “(NEW)” instead of the number of unread comments.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  2. monkeyball Dec 21,2010 9:28 am

    Mobile app

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • nevermoor Dec 21,2010 9:34 am || Up

      Have you tried this?

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • monkeyball Dec 21,2010 9:35 am || Up

        Ah, no. Interesting. I’ll give that a shot.

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
        • nevermoor Dec 21,2010 9:50 am || Up

          Looks like it should work with hosted sites like FK, but (of course) no promises that my hacks will work through it.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • JediLeroy Dec 21,2010 2:38 pm || Up

            What would it take for me to have admin privileges?

            I’m looking into IOS app stuff, but I need to be able to look at what’s going on under the hood.

            az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
            • nevermoor Dec 21,2010 2:53 pm || Up

              General trustworthiness and a FKing reason.

              I’ve hooked you up, and feel free to email me any questions you might have.

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
              • JediLeroy Dec 21,2010 3:25 pm || Up

                Thanks! I’ve decided that I’d rather spend my free time learning iOS instead of learning patent translation. Sure, the patent stuff could be solid money, but man, I hate life when I’m doing it.

                az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
                • nevermoor Dec 21,2010 3:29 pm || Up

                  Good luck!

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • MikeV Dec 21,2010 4:02 pm || Up

        Android version :-X

        And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

        Thanks, and go As.

        • monkeyball Dec 21,2010 4:18 pm || Up

          you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  3. FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 21,2010 10:06 am

    Solutions to the weird IE-only dynamics I’ve noted before:

    1. The odd way comments sometimes become invisible (you can see the borders, comment/commenter info, and avatar but not the comment itself). But then scrolling down then back up makes the text re-appear. But not always or consistently.

    2. The way that sometimes the text one writes in the comment drafting box doesn’t wrap correctly, so that I can’t actually see all of what I’ve written while drafting it.

    3. That strange banner font color issue we ID’d the other day.

    4. Don’t know if this last one is also IE-only or not, but when posting a brand new “top” comment in a thread (in other words, not an issue when replying to someone else’s comment), the “new comment is posting, please wait a minute” message becomes a never-ending loop until the page is reloaded. Note that this is only an issue for what I see; the comment itself always does post correctly.

    And I am perfectly happy to live with all these very minor problems if it the cure should prove intractable, or spawn worse problems that affect people who use non-horrible browsers.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • nevermoor Dec 21,2010 5:50 pm || Up

      3 is fixed.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • nevermoor Dec 21,2010 5:58 pm || Up

        2: I think this is a problem that can’t be fixed while still having a flexible-length comment area. Which is probably more important.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • nevermoor Dec 21,2010 6:34 pm || Up

      I’ve tried a fix for 1. Let me know if the problem continues.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 21,2010 6:53 pm || Up

        I won’t be back at work until Jan. 3, so it’ll be awhile. Thanks very much for thinking of those of us Microshackled at work.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • nevermoor Dec 22,2010 8:48 am || Up

          No problem.

          I’m not sure I can fix 4 either (the code is not mine, and often commented in foreign characters), but I’m going to give it a go.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • JediLeroy Dec 22,2010 2:18 pm || Up

            I believe it’s Chinese, if I’m thinking of the right plugin.

            az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
        • 5Aces Dec 22,2010 12:26 pm || Up

          The Micro chains still on over here, and so far it looks good. I have always had the problem off and on, so if this changes I will speak up.

          Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 4,2011 8:47 am || Up

        Sad to report, back at work and IE’d again, that the occasional comment invisibility problem still persists. But as before, it always goes away after a couple quick page up/page down moves, so not a big deal.

        Minor problems # 2 and 4 also seem to still persist.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • nevermoor Jan 4,2011 9:06 am || Up

          Shoot!

          I was feeling pretty good about that one.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • nanotrebuchet Jan 4,2011 7:28 pm || Up

          solution: quit your job

    • nevermoor Dec 22,2010 9:32 am || Up

      4: Can’t follow the code to see what’s different at the moment. I’ll try again later.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  4. nevermoor Dec 21,2010 12:15 pm

    1) Seeing if updating to WP3 will break everything

    It will. Bummer.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  5. TJ Dec 21,2010 1:20 pm

    4) What do you folks think about capping the number of indent levels? My biggest pet peeve in long threads is when the replies devolve into one-word-per-line blocks that 1) make the thread super long and a huge pain to read on a mobile device and 2) make the comments themselves painful to read on any platform. I’d prefer to cap the indent level at some value (say, 5?) after which all replies appear at the same level.

    • nevermoor Dec 22,2010 8:47 am || Up

      The only thing I have figured out capping the depth of replies (currently 15 I think), but I have not figured out how to allow deeper replies with no indent. I’m open to reducing the max nesting level or reducing the indent each level (or both) but I’m wondering what you guys think.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  6. grover Dec 21,2010 4:41 pm

    I want as much access and power as you’re willing to give me!

    • monkeyball Dec 21,2010 4:45 pm || Up

      In this country, you gotta make the monkey first. Then when you get the monkey, you get the power.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • grover Dec 21,2010 5:30 pm || Up

        What the fuck you talking about? My bananas are legit. I wouldn’t even be around here if it wasn’t for the monkey. Monkey done invite me in to this lil’ soiree… much to the dismay of a few, I’m sure.

        • Leopold Bloom Dec 22,2010 12:16 am || Up

          you’re stupid. 80s more than 78.

          • grover Dec 22,2010 10:35 am || Up

            You’re one of the insipid assclowns who turned iglew’s straw man bullshit green, aren’t you?

            And since it’s been the meme…

            Athletics Nation: The raging fires of hatred it builds within me keeps me warm during these long winter months.

    • nevermoor Dec 21,2010 5:05 pm || Up

      Banned.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  7. nanotrebuchet Dec 21,2010 6:09 pm

    The new threads with >0 comments are showing at “new” in the autorefresh sidebar, rather than showing the number of comments.

    I like new threads to show the number of comments, since, if I’m in a rush and there are >10 comments I’ll come back to it later without clicking on it.

    • nevermoor Dec 21,2010 6:36 pm || Up

      Ah, gotcha.

      I’ll look at that.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • nevermoor Dec 22,2010 9:22 am || Up

      Fixed.

      New now means an unread post with 0 comments.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  8. batgirl Dec 22,2010 1:05 pm

    I’m still having the problem that every time I open FK or return to the main page from a post, it does not show the “new” comments area. Instead of seeing the list of posts with new comments, I see “…loading…” I have to hit refresh each time in order to see the new comments area.

    This happens on both of my work computers and both my laptops all running on Firefox.

    • nevermoor Dec 22,2010 1:21 pm || Up

      That’s really really strange.

      Does it happen for anyone else?

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 22,2010 5:00 pm || Up

        I’ve had that happen a handful of times for a short period, usually on the home Firefox/Mac rig. I’ve always just blamed the crappy underpowered Mac and/or the lame SBC DSL speed.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Poppy Dec 22,2010 9:16 pm || Up

        I had that happen a long while ago on Safari, but it’s consistently fine now.

        There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
      • Soaker Jan 2,2011 10:38 pm || Up

        Did this ever get fixed for batgirl? I’m playing around with the No Script add-on for Firefox tonight, and when I forbid freekraut.com from running scripts I get that “loading…” message under Unread Comments. So perhaps this is something involving batgirl’s Firefox security settings.

        What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
        • nevermoor Jan 3,2011 9:53 am || Up

          Could be.

          When you had it on, did the comments work normally or did they break too?

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • Soaker Jan 3,2011 11:38 am || Up

            The only other thing that breaks is the Reply button. Using No Script to forbid freekraut.com produces the same result as disabling JavaScript in Tools–>Options–>Content. And I don’t see anything in the Advanced options there that would prevent the Unread Comments from reloading. I’ve tried several configurations and I can’t break the Unread Comments without also breaking the Reply button, so I haven’t been able to duplicate batgirl’s issue.

            What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
            • nevermoor Jan 3,2011 12:50 pm || Up

              Yeah. The Unread Comments load with a Javascript timer and AJAX, but lots of site functions rely on those elements (the Z key, for example, is JS and posting comments is AJAX)

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • batgirl Jan 3,2011 11:03 am || Up

          Still happening for me on all computers. So if you do find that it’s a Firefox security thing, let me know. I’d love to fix it. Or, I guess I should more accurately say, if you could explain where/how I adjust these settings, that would be great!

  9. sslinger Dec 22,2010 5:37 pm

    My only request would be for a Top button so in a long thread, instead of having to scroll up to the top to see if there are new unread comments you could just hit the button and go up there.

    • MikeV Dec 22,2010 5:38 pm || Up

      I use the home key for that.

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

      • sslinger Dec 22,2010 7:37 pm || Up

        Why, thank you sir!

        • FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 22,2010 7:45 pm || Up

          Speaking of slinger’s home key…how was the hoedown last night?

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • sslinger Dec 22,2010 11:19 pm || Up

            It was an excellent solstice time, though it’s too bad none of you FKers could make it. (Batgirl, I hope you’re feeling better.) More kids in the house than it has seen in years. We made tamales using lard in the dough from a guy (who was there) who raises 300-lb wooly pigs in Montana, which is not only pretty cool but they make the best tamales. Good fun all around, thanks for asking.

            • Leopold Bloom Dec 23,2010 12:05 am || Up

              I wish I could’ve been there…

            • batgirl Dec 23,2010 6:28 am || Up

              I’m just trying to push through til the weekend when I can sleep. My cold misery was further compounded when I was leaving work on Tuesday. I was rushing to get to the post in time to drop off yet another stack of holiday orders (yay holiday orders!). I was running late and my youngest dog was yet again dragging her heels on jumping into the car. Just as I was bending over to lift her into the car she decides to jump…straight into my chin…and I apparently had my tongue sticking out. Damn near bit the end off. Ouch. Lots of blood and even today a great deal of pain.

              I’m so sorry to have missed your shindig. I was really looking forward to it and I appreciated the invite :) I think I feel a bit better today.

              • monkeyball Dec 23,2010 7:45 am || Up

                Damn near bit the end off. Ouch. Lots of blood and even today a great deal of pain.

                you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • Leopold Bloom Dec 22,2010 9:54 pm || Up

        My mini has no home key…

        • nanotrebuchet Dec 23,2010 12:16 am || Up

          Mine does.

          • Leopold Bloom Dec 23,2010 12:34 am || Up

            where, sal?

            • nanotrebuchet Dec 23,2010 1:08 am || Up

              Upper right hand corner, from right to left, I see (small) keys for delete, insert, end, and home.

              • Leopold Bloom Dec 23,2010 4:52 am || Up

                I got delete, insert and wifi…sad lb is sad…

        • monkeyball Dec 23,2010 7:45 am || Up

          You weren’t hanging out with batgirl last night, were you?

          you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
        • JediLeroy Dec 23,2010 2:41 pm || Up

          Dell mini or mac mini?

          Some macs use the arrow keys as home/pg up/pg/down/end keys.

          If yours is a mac, try holding the fn key and pressing the right arrow.

          I hear it works with HP minis, too.

          az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
          • ptbnl Dec 23,2010 3:30 pm || Up

            works for me.

            If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
            • Poppy Dec 24,2010 5:03 pm || Up

              Woohoo! Thanks JL and tFKerfkagso! I wasn’t aware of either of those trickses.

              There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
              • Leopold Bloom Dec 25,2010 1:23 am || Up

                It’s like magic, huh, Poppy?

                [please note the use of capitals]

          • monkeyball Dec 23,2010 3:33 pm || Up

            My computer has an FK key.

            you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
          • Leopold Bloom Dec 23,2010 4:01 pm || Up

            OooooooH! Not fn and right (that goes bottom), but fn and left! Thank you, JL!

            • Leopold Bloom Dec 23,2010 4:02 pm || Up

              It’s an HP, btw. I got it free through Verizon.

            • JediLeroy Dec 23,2010 4:04 pm || Up

              Oops, that’s what I meant, actually. I use the end button more than the home button. Merry Christmas.

              az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
              • Leopold Bloom Dec 23,2010 4:22 pm || Up

                ho ho ho! Thank you, Santa JL!

                • nevermoor Dec 25,2010 2:38 pm || Up

                  I’m going to consider this one resolved.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  10. monkeyball Dec 23,2010 12:38 pm

    I guess we have a user category where posts need to be approved before being published. Probably want to change that.

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • Poppy Dec 23,2010 12:57 pm || Up

      Do we? Are we still needing to approve first comment by new user, and if so, why wouldn’t we want to approve first post by new user?

      There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
      • monkeyball Dec 23,2010 1:07 pm || Up

        Dunno whether it’s first post, or all posts. First comment, sure, yes — but after they’re in, I figure they’re in.

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
        • Poppy Dec 23,2010 1:21 pm || Up

          Can someone make a post without first making a comment?

          There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
          • monkeyball Dec 23,2010 1:32 pm || Up

            Well, I think they could make one before making a comment, but it won’t be published until the comment/their user status/their post is approved.

            you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
            • Leopold Bloom Dec 23,2010 2:28 pm || Up

              Can we make it so they have to refer to us as Gods use anodyne headlines on their posts?

    • nevermoor Dec 25,2010 2:43 pm || Up

      Should be fixed.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"

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