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Logrollin’ 66

26 Oct 2010  |  monkeyball  |The Grill
  1. Dirty Sanchez
  2. {snerk}
  3. Speaking of euphemisms …
  4. Aqua Buddha, what an asshole
  5. Funny (funnier)
  6. Fangraphs has … nothing to say about Crisp’s option
  7. He fixes the cable?

66 thoughts on “Logrollin’”

  1. monkeyball Oct 26,2010 11:53 am
    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • nevermoor Oct 26,2010 12:00 pm || Up

      Good for Rand.

      The way I see it, it’s a crime and whoever did it should be arrested / prosecuted. It doesn’t mean Rand Paul is a NAZI any more than if a liberal activist did the same thing.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • monkeyball Oct 26,2010 12:01 pm || Up

        YDNSWIDT

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
        • nevermoor Oct 26,2010 12:29 pm || Up

          I did, I’m just not going with you.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • nevermoor Oct 26,2010 12:08 pm || Up

        Although this is problematic, if true.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • monkeyball Oct 26,2010 12:20 pm || Up

          The Underpants Libertarians:
          1. Stomp heads
          2. ???
          3. Profitt!

          you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
        • nevermoor Oct 26,2010 12:32 pm || Up

          Looks like we have both of their names

          Neither, of course, is a liberal plant.

          The highlight:

          Tim Profitt, a volunteer with the Republican’s U.S. Senate campaign, told The Associated Press on Tuesday that the camera angle made the scuffle Monday night appear worse that it was. He criticized police for not stepping in and says other supporters warned authorities about the activist.

          Those damn police failed to prevent me from assaulting someone. Their fault!

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • monkeyball Oct 26,2010 4:35 pm || Up

            While I in no way condone the actions (or arguments) of Stomper and Groper, the woman seems like your typical Code Pink-style eedjit. Rushing at political candidates in crowded scenes isn’t exactly (a) smart or (b) good visual politics, and can often get one’s hiney in the pokey.

            you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
            • nevermoor Oct 26,2010 4:37 pm || Up

              I’ve seen no evidence of “rushing” and assuming she did the candidate was safe when she was stopped. The groping and the stomping are purely criminal.

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
              • monkeyball Oct 26,2010 4:45 pm || Up

                “Rand Paul’s car arrived, and as soon as it did, a couple of them stepped right in front of me and so I stepped off the curb to get around them, back out to the front, and at that point they started grabbing for me and I ran all the way around the car with them in pursuit, and the point at which they see the footage is after I’ve run all the way around the car and am in front of the car and that is when they take me down,” Valle said.

                She has a schtick where she apparently works her way through the crowd to confront the candidate with some bogus anti-PR “certificate”; she recognized the volunteers, they recognized her; so she tried an evasive maneuver, running around the car not to escape them per se but to get at the candidate.

                Again, I agree with you — those guys should be prosecuted.

                But a reasonable person could see what she was doing and wonder WTF she was up to.

                you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
                • nevermoor Oct 26,2010 4:51 pm || Up

                  she recognized the volunteers, they recognized her

                  So they knew she wasn’t violent.

                  And, of course, it’s pretty obvious what she was up to. She was protesting.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • monkeyball Oct 26,2010 5:02 pm || Up

                  Just playing devil’s advocate: she had a history of aggressively confronting the candidate, which hadn’t yet escalated to violence.

                  Honestly, I think what she was doing crossed a (non-criminal) line from “protesting” to “inappropriate agitprop confrontation.” She’s not really any different from Breitbart’s legion of ratfuckers.

                  you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
                • nevermoor Oct 26,2010 5:14 pm || Up

                  I dunno. Seems more like the WW chicken to me. It’s a stunt, but stunts happen all the time.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • andeux Oct 26,2010 2:29 pm || Up

      I can’t remember, did Peanutball ever have a Goodfellas type scene?

      TINSTAAFK
      • monkeyball Oct 26,2010 2:37 pm || Up

        Paging JediLeroy …

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
        • monkeyball Oct 26,2010 4:36 pm || Up

          Also: De Niro should be wearing white cleats.

          you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  2. andeux Oct 26,2010 11:59 am

    1. related?

    TINSTAAFK
    • monkeyball Oct 26,2010 12:01 pm || Up

      1. Juan Williams is scared of people who smell Muslim

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • nanotrebuchet Oct 26,2010 4:47 pm || Up

        my childhood memories of the smell of the mosque – a hundred men tightly packed into a small room with no air conditioning in the middle of the fremont summer while women cook massive quantities of gruel in the adjacent poorly-ventilated kitchen – are not exactly good, either.

        • monkeyball Oct 26,2010 5:03 pm || Up

          If I fire you from FK, maybe you’ll get a multimillion-dollar offer from SBN?

          you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  3. nevermoor Oct 26,2010 12:04 pm

    3: Detainees report unusual toenail demands.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  4. FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 26,2010 12:51 pm

    7. Bob Gammon is an idiot. Marine Layer is not, but damn, he sure is obtuse w/r/t politics.

    So, you could accept Gammon’s interpretation, which ML apparently does: Perata plans to let the A’s move, and Wolffish rewarded him out of gratitude. To see it that way, you have to believe that 1) Perata was telling the truth to Dave Newhouse; and 2) He can be bought on such a critical matter for a paltry $25K in campaign dough.

    Alternatively, you could see it my way: Perata was less than candid to Newhouse, because why on earth would the guy leading in the polls say anything on stadium issues other than “no public money”? Put another way: how big an idiot would an Oakland candidate be to say “Why yes, I plan on opening the bank for this sports team”? The answer is “A titanically big idiot.” Don Perata is not that.

    Perhaps Wolffish donated to Perata because they’re finding out that they may have to try and make something work in Oakland after all, and if so, it might behoove them to make nice with the (possible) next mayor. Isn’t that a much more likely scenario than the tortured logic of Gammon, which is predicated on taking a slick politician’s pre-election words in a newspaper at face value?

    Jesus, people are stupid.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • andeux Oct 26,2010 1:19 pm || Up

      Bob Gammon is an idiot.
      I think that has been previously noted.

      Even if we accept at face value the (implausible, as you point out) notion that Peralta as mayor would have no interest in keeping the A’s, Gammon’s theory is flawed for another reason – the Oakland city government isn’t doing (and really couldn’t do) anything that actively prevents the team from moving. At best, the city could convey official lack-of-interest in the Victory Court site, which would expedite permission from the commissioner. But influence peddling with that as a goal seems like a stretch. In fact, insofar as the real barrier to a San Jose move is negotiating a price with the Giants, having the threat of a vague fallback plan in Oakland still on the table would benefit the A’s owners, to prevent the Giants from overplaying their hand.

      The far more likely reasons that Wolffisher would want to have influence with the Oakland mayor are:
      a) (as you point out) the possibility that they will be forced to work in good faith to get a deal done in Oakland (this theory doesn’t apply if one believes the theory that a move to SJ has already been rubber stamped by the commissioner’s panel, but then neither does Gammon’s);
      b) Even in the best-case scenario for SJ, they will still be playing in the Coliseum through at least 2013? 2014?

      TINSTAAFK
      • monkeyball Oct 26,2010 2:09 pm || Up

        Yeah, I went with the title for the Lebowski reference … really, as FSU alludes, it’s more front-running than log-rolling.

        Also, ML sez:

        Was the donation made because they truly feel that Perata is the best candidate? R-i-i-i-i-i-g-h-t.

        But Wolff IIRC is a longtime reliable (D) (and, when it suits his business interests, [R]) donor, and as FSU has pointed out before, if your criterion for elective office is “gettin’ things done” (whatever — and whatever polarity — those things may be), the Don is your man.

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • monkeyball Oct 27,2010 9:33 am || Up
      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • linusalf Oct 27,2010 1:44 pm || Up

        I hope FSU is right…i really do. But I cannot see Lew Wolff wanting to be involved with Oakland in anyway shape or form. I see this as either a gift, or a way to make sure that the next mayor wont interfere with his SJ plans. Wolff is already frustrated with the fact that whatever Oakland has done so far it has been enough to delay his SJ plans. If SJ fails or MLB says “Oakland Only” Wolff is out. My only beef with Perata is that he took Wolffs money, but as FSU alluded to there could be more of this.

        The silver lining in this is weather FSU is right or Wolffish is trying to clear out any Oakland barrier for the future, the fact remains that at this point Oakland is still an option and will be a factor in 2011.

        This is a long way from being over.

        • monkeyball Oct 27,2010 2:03 pm || Up

          the fact remains that at this point Oakland is still an option and will be a factor in 2011

          Which is precisely what FSU and I are saying: Crywolffisher (let’s remember that it’s 15K from Fisher and 10K from Wolff — chump change for those guys) are likely simply/merely frontrunning, keeping up good relations with the guy they see as likeliest to win in the city where they have to continue to do business for the next 3-n years. That, actually, is the way most large political contributions work: less a bribe than a tax.

          you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
        • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 27,2010 7:16 pm || Up

          If When MLB keeps Oakland alive, perhaps Lew will want out (and if so, good riddance). But bear in mind, once a new ballpark is built, regardless of where, the value of the franchise will instantly rise by $100 million or more. It would be a helluva fit of petulance to quit before realizing a cut of that windfall.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • andeux Oct 27,2010 9:06 pm || Up

            I think some of that appreciation has already been priced into the current valuation.

            TINSTAAFK
            • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 27,2010 10:09 pm || Up

              No, I don’t think so. Forbes pegged A’s one-year franchise value as declining 8% in 2009. Econapocalypse notwithstanding, only 7 teams declined at all, and none more than Oakland percentage-wise. Contrast with the Marlins, who finally did ink a ballpark deal…their estimated value rose 15%, the most in MLB.

              "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
              • andeux Oct 28,2010 9:20 am || Up

                Hm, looks like you’re right. I thought the valuation had gone way up in the first couple years of the Wolff administration, when they started talking seriously about Fremont, but I guess that was unrelated (maybe due to MLBAM revenues).

                TINSTAAFK
  5. lenscrafters Oct 26,2010 1:46 pm

    Forget Werth or Crawford. This might be the way the A’s can compete for the next few years.

    • monkeyball Oct 26,2010 2:00 pm || Up

      Unless they adopt my 28 teams/27-man rosters/expand-DH-to-NL plan too …

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  6. TJ Oct 26,2010 1:50 pm

    I never knew what monkeyball’s avatar was until I just saw this post and the links within it:
    http://missionmission.wordpress.com/2010/10/25/the-velvet-underground-nico-recreated/#comments

    Coda’s a pretty cool venue. The wife and I enjoy the happy hour deals there every once in a while.

    • monkeyball Oct 26,2010 2:04 pm || Up

      Liz Phair is a Bay Area artist? (obligatory alum pimping … no she preceded me by a year)

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • nevermoor Oct 26,2010 2:07 pm || Up

      MB is Nico Recreated????

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • nanotrebuchet Oct 26,2010 2:11 pm || Up

        I always thought the use of the VU banana as the monkeyball avatar was intentionally subversive due to Nico’s well-known association with the band.

        • nanotrebuchet Oct 26,2010 2:11 pm || Up

          But perhaps I give him too much credit.

          • monkeyball Oct 26,2010 2:12 pm || Up

            I’m surprised no one ever noticed/commented on it before.

            you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
        • andeux Oct 26,2010 2:16 pm || Up

          There’s also this.

          TINSTAAFK
          • nanotrebuchet Oct 26,2010 2:25 pm || Up

            That’s right; isn’t that a blatant ripoff of Raffi’s “BananaPhone“?

            • nevermoor Oct 26,2010 2:29 pm || Up

              Holy shit, MY reads FK.

              What Price Bananas?

              TOO HIGH!

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
              • andeux Oct 26,2010 2:31 pm || Up

                ITYM “2 DAMN HIGH!”

                TINSTAAFK
                • nevermoor Oct 26,2010 2:46 pm || Up

                  I’ll marry it.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
              • monkeyball Oct 26,2010 2:50 pm || Up
                you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
          • JediLeroy Oct 27,2010 3:00 am || Up

            Upon listening to Nico Pemantle’s latest CD release, “Seven Generations,” one is struck by how much Pemantle sings, plays, and writes like James Taylor, one of his musical inspirations. … This acoustic/folk singer weaves a bright tapestry of vivid melodies, beautiful arrangements, and lyrics that are both sad and full of promise. In fact, the whole CD is one big showcase of Pemantle’s genius at songwriting and arranging.

            Either he or a family member wrote that “review“.

            az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
            • monkeyball Oct 27,2010 6:06 am || Up

              both sad and full of promise

              The same person has been reviewing the A’s farm system.

              you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
              • nanotrebuchet Oct 27,2010 6:34 am || Up

                More appropriate:

                both sad and full of promises

              • oblique Oct 27,2010 8:37 am || Up

                A real fixer-upper.

                • monkeyball Oct 27,2010 9:31 am || Up

                  Beane’s gonna jingle-mail it.

                  you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • monkeyball Oct 26,2010 2:15 pm || Up

        With the next World Series game still a few days away, I wanted to take a moment to thank our tech support master for all he’s done this year.

        Being a tech support master is harder than it may look. It means sometimes rearranging your life for FK because it’s “broken.” It means finding 23 different ways to say, “Well the interface’s pretty good but the formatting sure sucks.” It means being original, interesting, creative, funny, poignant, and thorough, and doing it once a week not just once in a while. And let’s face it, sometimes it means putting up with a lot of crap.

        I’ve been thrilled with this crew, and want to publicly acknowledge how reliable, consistent, and thought-provoking nevermoor has been with posts, game threads, and recaps. The tech support master is the backbone of FK, and we’re better off than your average Eric Chavez. Thank you, “techy,” for all your great work, and the heart and soul you put into FK.

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
        • nevermoor Oct 26,2010 2:28 pm || Up

          Holy shit!

          Infiltrator alert!

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 27,2010 7:10 pm || Up

          Second that emotion. And for you too, chimp boy. Our FKing overlords rule!

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • monkeyball Oct 28,2010 7:00 am || Up

            YDNSWINDT

            you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  7. monkeyball Oct 26,2010 2:50 pm
    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • nevermoor Oct 26,2010 2:52 pm || Up

      Very neat, and helpful for when I get off my ass and write my pinup post.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • monkeyball Oct 26,2010 3:08 pm || Up

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  8. monkeyball Oct 26,2010 4:31 pm
    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  9. nanotrebuchet Oct 26,2010 9:22 pm

    My old boss.

    I was actually offered a job helping to commercialize this stuff, but I am hell-bent on leaving Boston and so I declined.

    • nevermoor Oct 26,2010 10:22 pm || Up

      Here’s hoping they can get the efficiency up.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • nanotrebuchet Oct 26,2010 10:28 pm || Up

        probably not ever as high as conventional pv, if your metric is power/mass or power/area, then this would be pretty helpful for “expanding the base” – that is, turning everyday objects into power generators. if it ever does get commercialized, i think the first real application would be ultra-light power generation for low-power applications (laptop? cell phone?).

        • monkeyball Oct 27,2010 6:10 am || Up

          I want a long-sleeve hoodie and/or a parasol.

          you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come

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