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  1. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 26,2021 3:17 pm

    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 26,2021 3:22 pm || Up

      Shots fired from a distance

      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 26,2021 3:31 pm || Up

        Is it still true that the biggest contact in Oakland history was 6 years/$66M to Eric Chavez in 2004?

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • andeux andeux Jan 26,2021 3:40 pm || Up

          By total value, I think so.
          By average annual value, Khris’ current extension (2/$33.5 M).

          On the rare occasions they’ve spent anything resembling real money, it sure hasn’t worked out (Butler, the final extensions for Dye, Chavez, Crisp, Khris).

          Which is not to say that I don’t think they should keep trying.

          TINSTAAFK
          • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 26,2021 3:44 pm || Up

            Yeah, failed spending hasn’t been any more or less likely to correlate with A’s postseasons than no spending has.

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • lenscrafters Jan 26,2021 3:43 pm || Up

        It’s so telling that by not offering the QO, the thing they were most terrified of was not the wins lost by losing Semien, or even the prospect of losing Semien without any draft pick compensation, but the simple fact that they just could not, would not be willing to stomach the possibility of being on the hook for that $18 million QO.

        Imagine being an almost 3x billionaire like Fisher and having an asset like this organization that’s generated so many profits and value appreciation over the last 15 years, a current core team that’s so good and so close to being a true championship contender, a net worth that’s largely recovered and then some from the March dip, and still wringing your hands over a 1 year dollar amount like this.

        Although I guess it’s not hard to imagine when this was the same piece of shit who tried to save a million or so by not paying minor leaguers before he was shamed by his own staff (a lot of whom he also fired to save a few more pennies).

        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 26,2021 5:51 pm || Up

          “They’ve been telling agents they have no money.” At what point does MLB step in and force something to change here, I wonder.

          • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 26,2021 6:21 pm || Up

            Oh god, I accidentally did an Ostler take.

            • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 26,2021 7:02 pm || Up

              His diagnosis isn’t wrong but imagining that MLB would force a profitable owner to sell is fantasyland.

              "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 26,2021 3:47 pm || Up

        shots landed. Pinpoint accuracy.

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 26,2021 3:51 pm || Up

          Slusser unfiltered

          • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 26,2021 4:02 pm || Up

            She no longer has to err on the side of staying friendly with the Oakland front office.

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • Soaker Soaker Jan 26,2021 5:38 pm || Up

            I’m expecting her to declare Howard Terminal deceased any day now.

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  2. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 26,2021 3:36 pm
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 26,2021 3:47 pm || Up

      No inductees from that list of names? Just pathetic. So tired of the anti-roid sanctimony.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 26,2021 3:49 pm || Up

      loooooool

      • andeux andeux Jan 26,2021 4:15 pm || Up

        TINSTAAFK
    • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 26,2021 3:53 pm || Up

      Wow, Schilling really took a dive there in the uncounted ballots. I really thought he would be higher

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • andeux andeux Jan 26,2021 4:08 pm || Up

        I started to write a serious response to this.

        TINSTAAFK
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 26,2021 5:27 pm || Up

      Omar Vizquel getting significantly more support than Andruw Jones is obnoxious.

  3. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 26,2021 5:10 pm

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 26,2021 5:30 pm || Up

      A couple months of La Stella turned out to be shockingly great, but he was clearly born to be a Giants/Angels-flavored scrapper.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • andeux andeux Jan 26,2021 5:30 pm || Up

      Are we really just going to go with Pinder & Kemp?

      TINSTAAFK
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 26,2021 5:34 pm || Up

        They don’t cost anything or require our head of baseball operations to think about things other than buying the Liverpool Red Sox or whatever so sure.

        • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 26,2021 9:20 pm || Up

          Shit don’t work at anfield anymore

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
  4. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 26,2021 5:19 pm

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 26,2021 5:28 pm || Up

      Picking an early skirmish with the union using public health as a Trojan horse, interesting strategy.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 26,2021 9:22 pm || Up

      There have been non stop 10-18u tournaments/showcases in arizona every weekend since May.

      Believing they wanted to cancel was not remotely possible

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  5. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 26,2021 5:31 pm

    Come on now.

  6. lenscrafters Jan 26,2021 5:41 pm

    We’re on the verge of a Kozma/Kemp/Pinder MIF with 3 high leverage spots still needing to be replaced in the bullpen.

    I just can’t believe that a team with this much talent going for it is letting themselves go forward with this situation.

    • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 26,2021 9:25 pm || Up

      Can they DH for Nick Allen?

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  7. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 26,2021 7:53 pm

    This Gamestop stock thing is crazy, succinct explanation in this thread, also it might sink the NY Mets.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • andeux andeux Jan 26,2021 8:06 pm || Up

      Here’s a longer thing from this morning.
      I didn’t know about the Mets connection. Even if those numbers are right, I doubt it affects Cohen’s ability to spend money on the Mets. Pretty funny just after he bought the team from the Wilpons though. Mets ownership is just cursed.

      TINSTAAFK
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 28,2021 11:52 am || Up

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    • lenscrafters Jan 26,2021 8:11 pm || Up

      I have a friend who got in at $15 and is not selling until $1K. And he’s absolutely convinced it’ll get there.

      • andeux andeux Jan 26,2021 8:19 pm || Up

        Someone is going to be left holding a bag with several billion dollars of tulip bulbs, but at least he’s mostly playing with house money at this point.

        TINSTAAFK
        • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 27,2021 3:39 pm || Up

          I saw mentioned somewhere today that the tulip mania bubble also took place during a pandemic.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Soaker Soaker Jan 26,2021 8:40 pm || Up

        And if it gets to $1K does he have the discipline to sell at that point, or will he think “Nah, I bet I can get $1200?” That’s exactly when it turns into Webvan.com.

        I screwed around with individual stocks some, many years ago. Making money requires getting two decisions right: when to buy, when to sell. Guess how that went; cut to present day and my entire stock holding is in the simplest most all-inclusive instrument there is, Vanguard Total World Stock (VTWAX, or VT if you prefer the ETF).

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        • lenscrafters Jan 26,2021 10:01 pm || Up

          1K seems like the meme price point right now. But yes a lot of the furor seems crazed and irrational. Reading r/wallstreetbets, it’s almost like the irrationality is the point, and it feels like the 2017 crypto craze where people got in just to be part of the ride.

          My friend is a techie at a FANG so I’m reasonably sure he won’t be financially ruined by this (I don’t know how much he actually bought), but to andeux’s point, there are gonna be real world consequences. And there are folks in with their entire life savings or maxed out CC loans who are going to be in trouble if/when the institutional investors eventually win. All for a meme.

          • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 26,2021 10:30 pm || Up

            Sadly, A’s fans were also the victims of a short squeeze today.

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
            • AV AV Jan 28,2021 10:32 am || Up

              fans *and* managers.

              just look at melvin’s capital.

              *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • colin colin Jan 27,2021 6:14 am || Up

        A student I work with got in for $1500. He has already cashed out (smartly). I didn’t ask how much money he made.

    • ptbnl Jan 28,2021 9:28 am || Up

      60% drop today after Robinhood banned trades in GameStop … the hedge funds that bailed yesterday are going to be so pissed!

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • andeux andeux Jan 28,2021 9:43 am || Up

        Ted Cruz and AOC are also both pissed by that decision.
        It is on quite a ride today. Pretty sure it is not going to 1000.

        TINSTAAFK
        • AV AV Jan 28,2021 10:30 am || Up

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • elcroata elcroata Jan 28,2021 9:10 pm || Up

          Investors themselves, too.

          “A lot of regular, hard-working Americans have been putting their money in hoping and praying they can get something out of it during a time when everyone is struggling,” he said. “It felt like it was not just a betrayal, but completely unethical in so many ways.”

          I may very well be old-fashioned and/or wrong on this, but I just want all of the fucking “investors” off my lawn. I find all of the people involved in day trading and financial market betting to be leeches to the society and none of them to be “hard-working Americans” or hard-working anything. I mean, you didn’t make $50,000 for two hours of clicking buttons on your phone, drinking beer and eating pizza. Cry me a fucking river. And don’t even get me started on the Wall-Street guys and institutions. I abhor the fact that there is such a thing as a “financial engineer”, and claim — based solely on grumpy emotions and no facts whatsoever — that the existence of the stock market in its current state is the main cause for financial inequality in the world. Burn them all fucking down.

          Because survival is insufficient
          • 5Aces 5Aces Jan 29,2021 5:32 am || Up

            As usual I am just sad I can donate funds to the EC2024 presidential campaign. I am in no way extreme on anything but I would have no issue with a pox on all their houses.

            Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
          • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 29,2021 9:50 am || Up

            Yes but you’ve got to at least be happy that a fine American company like Game Stop is now flush with capital to use for expansion, innovation, and employment. That’s how the stock market works, right?

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 29,2021 12:08 pm || Up

      • lenscrafters Jan 28,2021 11:16 am || Up

        Woooow, this really feels like someone powerful decided to just hit the “last resort” button. And it’s not a ban on trades per se, but a ban on just buying/calls, not selling I think?

        Any legal folks want to weigh in? How is this not price manipulation? I feel like this is gonna have pretty strong implications for consumer confidence in the trading market in general going forward.

        • AV AV Jan 28,2021 11:20 am || Up

          yeah. sell only on robinhood. no buy.

          totally frees up stock so shorts can get off the ride where [presumably, if redditraders held as planned—but who knows] the stocks were not going to be available till shares hit $1000.

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  8. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 26,2021 8:57 pm
  9. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 26,2021 10:07 pm

    This interview with Beane (whose Bostonpool exit plan is apparently deader than dead) does not make it sound like there is a plan at work here…at all.

    “Still an unanswered question,” Beane said of the A’s shortstop situation. “We have some internal candidates, it’s not ideal. But we do have some time. In fact, literally, before you and I started speaking here, me and Dave were on the phone. We went back and looked at the master list of available guys to see what our options were. So right now, it’s really unanswered. (Chad) Pinder can play over there, although he’s spent most of his time in the big leagues playing in left field and second base. Right now, it’s an unanswered question that, to be totally frank with you, I think we’re a little bit concerned with.”

    “In terms of free agents, I think we’ve been realistic about who we would be able to bring back and quite frankly, of all the guys out there … we’re probably going to have to find replacements for almost all of them, just to be thoroughly candid with you.

    “Overall, not just with the A’s, this is a really challenging time for the industry. We’re feeling that as well. So the replacements that we have for those guys, which we anticipate that we’re going to have to have, are either going to have to come internally or in the form of some signings later on. We’re still not clear on who those guys could be. Yeah, there’s definitely some question marks.

    “The good thing is we still have a pretty good foundation with the Matts (Chapman and Olson) on the corners and some of the guys we’re bringing back, certainly in the starting rotation. But there’s no question that with the exodus of the free agents we’ve had that we’re going to be challenged to fill some of the important spots.”

    • andeux andeux Jan 26,2021 10:18 pm || Up

      Look, we have a big list of guys. Binders of guys. Binders of Pinders. Anyway, the point is that for sure someone will be playing shortstop.

      TINSTAAFK
      • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 27,2021 7:33 am || Up

        Really what is short stop? Look, we shift and when that happens there is no one in the traditional short stop position. We are always innovating. We don’t think having a short stop is a thing all teams will have in 10 years

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 27,2021 8:09 am || Up

          The sad thing is he’s not even trying to spin that kind of BS anymore. He’s just flat out saying that they don’t have any solutions and haven’t really been trying that hard to find any solutions. He’s completely checked out. The interview is beyond embarrassing, or would be if he cared.

      • Soaker Soaker Jan 27,2021 9:37 am || Up

        Bobby Crosby (just turned 41) and Adam Rosales (37) are in the organization.

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  10. elcroata elcroata Jan 27,2021 12:45 am

    The A’s are betting on 2021 not being played at all

    Because survival is insufficient
  11. ptbnl Jan 27,2021 7:47 am

    Taking the Reagan defense to a whole new level, Enrique Tarrio “doesn’t recall” being an FBI informant.

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 27,2021 10:25 am || Up

      Among many cases he helped with as a prolific informant was a steroid case in Miami…watch out, A-Rod!

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  12. batgirl batgirl Jan 27,2021 9:09 am

    How great is it that A’s fans are already well aware of the full range of Tootsie Roll products? What, no love for Child’s Play?

    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 27,2021 9:44 am || Up

      Are those the “midgees” Ray has told me so much about?

      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 27,2021 10:21 am || Up

        Let’s all jump in and buy call options in Francesco’s, we’ll make a fortune.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • Soaker Soaker Jan 27,2021 10:36 am || Up

          This “phenomenon” has a reek similar to Trumpists conspiring online to me.

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          • andeux andeux Jan 27,2021 11:02 am || Up

            Also “Gamergate,” and (in a different way) bitcoin.

            TINSTAAFK
            • andeux andeux Jan 27,2021 11:35 am || Up

              And also the Jonathan Lebed case from 20 years ago.
              (the subject of a pre-Moneyball Michael Lewis article.)

              TINSTAAFK
              • andeux andeux Jan 27,2021 12:28 pm || Up

                The Michael Lewis article is hilarious.
                Like the part where the chairman of the SEC tries to explain how a 14-year-old kid talking up stocks on yahoo messages boards is different than what wall street professionals do.

                TINSTAAFK
            • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 27,2021 12:13 pm || Up

              The soundtrack to our new post-factual political and financial world can be Surrealistic My Pillow.

              "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • 5Aces 5Aces Jan 27,2021 10:12 am || Up

      Dislike this image for not showing the wide variety of Tootsie Rolls. I am full team Vanilla Tootsie Roll.

      Mom Aces used to include them in the Halloween candy bags she would make each year I (and eventually the next generation) complained about them annually and now I have to get a pack to cherish the memory.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
      • Soaker Soaker Jan 27,2021 10:33 am || Up

        Sugar Babies is a Tootsie Roll Industries brand. I still sometimes pick up a box of those if I’m in Dollar Tree. I haven’t seen a Sugar Daddy in a while though. Yeah, the cheapest mom on the block would drop one of those Tootsie minis in the trick or treat bag, maybe two if she liked my parents.

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        • 5Aces 5Aces Jan 27,2021 11:50 am || Up

          I miss Sugar Daddys. (But then again who doesnt)

          Moms candy bags were something else. On one hand she would give like a half dozen Tootsie Rolls, then she would throw in a Reese pack and a couple of butterfingers. She went for both quality and quantity.

          My and the little Aces kept up the tradition of making bags until we moved down south. We get almost no trick or treaters in this area so it just saves time to open the package and eat all the candy ourselves.

          Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
        • doctorK doctorK Jan 27,2021 3:12 pm || Up

          Sugar Babies – aka, Filling Pullers

          • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 27,2021 3:43 pm || Up

            Sugar Daddys were the real emergency dental visit threats. Sugar Babies dissolve in your mouth into a brown sugar slurry. That used to be my favorite candy move. I am now adding this to my next shopping list (so like in June some time).

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • Soaker Soaker Jan 27,2021 5:16 pm || Up

            The other one Dollar Tree has is Jujyfruits. They’re not really “filling pullers” but they’re definitely caught in there until the next time you brush your teeth.

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      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 27,2021 4:10 pm || Up

        Candy tangent: My kids and I recently got into a discussion of weird gas station candy that no one seems to ever buy, and the rabbit hole led me to discover that Big Hunk, Abba-Zabba, and Rocky Road are all made by the same company in Hayward. Has anyone ever eaten these? Are they good? Are they sold in gas stations outside of Northern California?

        • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 27,2021 4:21 pm || Up

          Family owned for 80 years! The candy biz is tough, old man Hershey’ll have his goons cut your brake lines. Profile from a few years back, they basically survive through intense loyalty to their oddball brands. At least at one time you could find their stuff nationwide. I’m like the Rocky Road a lot, Not a fan of the Abba Yabba (though the Captain Beefheart song slaps).

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • AV AV Jan 27,2021 5:29 pm || Up

          i used to love abba-zabas (in the age of actual sugar) but was disappointed last time. it happened one year at boy scout camp when all the other chocolate bars came out of the machine molten while abba-zabas kinda got better in the heat.

          i was surprised they were made in hayward because i always thought of them as the sacramento candy. close enough i guess.

          they were all common in socal in the 80s. big hunk was the classic one to use when cheerleaders made candy poems for their assigned football player. poster board with text and candy bars taped in appropriate places.

          dear [whatchamacallit], i think you are a [big hunk].

          even if they weren’t supposed to be terribly awkward sex puns by people who didn’t know how sex worked yet, they usually read that way.

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • 5Aces 5Aces Jan 28,2021 8:59 am || Up

          I like the idea of Rocky Road, but it never is really like a good chunk of rocky road you can get in a candy store. I also think I have seen a mint chocolate version of that, but I am only so brave.

          Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
        • doctorK doctorK Jan 28,2021 3:53 pm || Up

          I’m pretty sure I had some Big Hunk long before diabeetus. It was like chocolate-covered marshmallow if I remember correctly – really thick and chewy.

    • AV AV Jan 27,2021 10:47 am || Up

      now slide.

      slide baby slide.

      just slide baby slide.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • 5Aces 5Aces Jan 27,2021 11:47 am || Up

        AV feels a whoop coming up.

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
        • AV AV Jan 27,2021 1:28 pm || Up

          cotton candy, sweetie go
          lemme see that tootsie roll!

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  13. Soaker Soaker Jan 27,2021 5:04 pm

    Hello Oakland! I’m here just long enough to overpay for a beer at the Southwest gates at the airport. The flight to Reno looks like it will go but the drive from the airport to South Shore may be an adventure. An overnight at the Nugget in Sparks is a possibility if it looks too nasty to drive that.

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    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 27,2021 5:33 pm || Up

      Say hi to John Ascuaga for me.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Soaker Soaker Jan 27,2021 5:44 pm || Up

        I’d rather just get home but driving in blizzard conditions at night isn’t fun. Apparently it’s not terrible right now. Can always give up in Carson City.

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        • Soaker Soaker Jan 27,2021 9:26 pm || Up

          1 hour 15 minutes to get home from the airport vs. the usual 1 hour even. It’s snowing but well short of a “blizzard”. Still gotta be careful for those folks driving 20 mph on the freeway.

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  14. lenscrafters Jan 27,2021 8:26 pm

    The A’s declined to make him a formal offer, instead floating a concept that had little chance of enticing Semien, sources said – a one-year, $12.5 million deal with $10 million deferred in 10 one-year installments of $1 million each.

    LOL

    • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 27,2021 9:21 pm || Up

      there are so many ways to structure deals these days that minimize risk. but the all require paying market rates.

      oh well, at least the new stadium is being built

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Soaker Soaker Jan 27,2021 9:33 pm || Up

      Oh good grief. If Beane/Forst sell Chapman and Montas to the Red Sox and Luzardo to the Yankees for cash only, will Bowie Kuhn step in to stop the deal?

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      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 27,2021 10:34 pm || Up

        Fisher’s whole approach has been to insist on keeping the ledger in the black every single year. If that offer report is accurate, it suggests that they’re slashing payroll to meet worst case revenue projections. The bottom could be really really low.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 28,2021 7:24 am || Up

          It didn’t fully dawn on me until this morning that they really were trying to pay the beloved star shortstop $2.5 million this season. All the alarm bells are going off.

    • batgirl batgirl Jan 28,2021 7:37 am || Up

      My god that is so embarrassing.

      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 28,2021 9:13 am || Up

        Right? Like, I am personally embarrassed to be associated with this as a fan.

        • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 28,2021 9:48 am || Up

          they are right about one thing. No offer would be less embarrassing

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • batgirl batgirl Jan 28,2021 11:07 am || Up

          I almost want to hire one of those banner dragging planes to say “we had nothing to do with this!!!” at the first Jays series.

  15. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 28,2021 10:37 am
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 28,2021 11:14 am || Up

      If Lyndon LaRouche had lived a few years longer he would have seen his worldview become mainstream.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • doctorK doctorK Jan 28,2021 3:56 pm || Up

        He seems so tame in comparison.

        • andeux andeux Jan 28,2021 4:39 pm || Up

          Now you guys made me dig out the “Lyndon LaRouche or Alan Greensperm?” flyer I got in Sproul plaza 25 years ago or so.

          TINSTAAFK
    • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 28,2021 7:23 pm || Up

      off line for a day and now there are jewish space lasers? As long as we keep this away from SLF it’s cool

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  16. AV AV Jan 28,2021 4:21 pm

    not even the shaka is safe, FSU. not even the shaka.

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 28,2021 5:03 pm || Up

      In a more just world Josh Hawley’s hand would be cut off for that.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • doctorK doctorK Jan 28,2021 6:45 pm || Up

        He should be clubbed. No heiau of refuge for him.

  17. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 28,2021 4:35 pm

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 28,2021 5:02 pm || Up

      I’m being told that the terms of the A’s lease state that any pots of gold be split equally between John Fisher, Mark Davis, and (squints) Scott McKibben.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 28,2021 7:26 pm || Up

      that is not actually in the stadium

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • 5Aces 5Aces Jan 29,2021 5:36 am || Up

        That was exactly my thought. “What about the end of the rainbow..is it at the AM/PM? Maybe the other side of Hegenberger?

        I felt bad for Dave when I saw this. He has no say on any check writing and has to face the full anger of the fanbase by putting up rainbows and shit. I know he signed up for it but man I would just disappear from SM for a week or 2.

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  18. andeux andeux Jan 28,2021 6:37 pm

    We may not be spending any money on the major league team, but at least we also don’t have any top 100 prospects.

    TINSTAAFK
  19. elcroata elcroata Jan 28,2021 11:09 pm

    Cool. My countryman and namesake is the worst player in the NBA

    Because survival is insufficient
    • ptbnl Jan 29,2021 7:11 am || Up

      … and starting shortstop for the A’s.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  20. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 29,2021 9:19 am

    This really gets at why the SF school renaming thing is so frustrating to me. The willful ignorance and anti-intellectualism inherent in the way the project has been handled says something terrible about the way this body thinks about education.

    • andeux andeux Jan 29,2021 9:32 am || Up

      While I agree with the larger point, I’m not all that swayed by the fact that several professional historians all say that they should have hired a professional historian.

      TINSTAAFK
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 29,2021 9:39 am || Up

        I bet my guy Leon Litwack would have done it pro bono.

    • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 29,2021 10:12 am || Up

      First I heard of it was at the Balboa back to school night and I thought that, yeah, a few should be renamed. We don’t need to continually “honor” George Washington. And Sure Balboa would be a great thing to change. There are a few whose origins I don’t know about so sure look into those.

      But that process was so dumb, and it’s optics have been even dumber. I think I saw Clarendon on the list. From the Google doc

      “Named for the street its on, whose origins can be traced to a county in South Carolina, one of the 13 Colonies named for Edward Hyde Earl of Claredon- English Politician- Clarendon was impeached by the House of Commons for blatant violations of Habeas Corpus, for having sent prisoners out of England to places like Jersey and holding them there without benefit of trial.”

      And the lick think, just stop. King County Washington was named after Rufus Wainwright King. I think he was Pierce’s VP, not gonna look it up, this was all told to me when I worked for King County in the 90s. Anyway, he was, as was the style at the time, a racist shitbag. So the County Counsel decided to rename the county after Martin Luther King Jr. Everyone’s happy.

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • andeux andeux Jan 29,2021 10:51 am || Up

        Was he the son of Loudon Wainwright III King?

        TINSTAAFK
  21. ptbnl Jan 29,2021 11:18 am

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 29,2021 11:28 am || Up

      Had to watch it 3 times to figure out what the joke was

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  22. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 29,2021 3:31 pm

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 29,2021 3:54 pm || Up

      The voice of the Coliseum and its best chronicler in one month. This just sucks. It won’t be there there any more, in exactly the way G. Stein meant it.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 29,2021 4:33 pm || Up

        How am I just learning that he was the guy from Warriors games back in the day?? I think about this call all the time.

        • Soaker Soaker Jan 29,2021 5:54 pm || Up

          Also Cal football, and as a Moraga resident Saint Mary’s basketball at McKeon Pavilion for many years.

          Support locally made sausage!
          • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 29,2021 6:21 pm || Up

            He used to do this inexplicably funny read of “Is it in you” from a Gatorade ad before kickoff at Memorial Stadium. For some reason that stuck with me.

    • Soaker Soaker Jan 29,2021 4:03 pm || Up

      Drive home…sssssafely, Dick.

      Support locally made sausage!
  23. Future Ed Future Ed Jan 29,2021 7:56 pm

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  24. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 29,2021 7:59 pm

    WTF

    • andeux andeux Jan 29,2021 8:05 pm || Up

      Shouldn’t he spend an unhappy three months in Oakland first?

      TINSTAAFK
      • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 29,2021 8:19 pm || Up

        “Ramon Laureano and the Mile high Curveball”

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 29,2021 9:07 pm || Up

      It’s like MLB told the owners they can “vote their conscience” with payroll and the bearish ones are selling everything

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • mikeA Feb 1,2021 11:23 am || Up

      My second favorite team. Go Cards!

  25. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 29,2021 8:41 pm

    How much of it deferred?

  26. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 30,2021 9:01 am

    Don’t know who this is either.

    • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 30,2021 9:04 am || Up

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 30,2021 9:20 am || Up

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 30,2021 9:28 am || Up

      I think these are just products of a baseball reference random name generator. In the days to come expect we’ll also sign Reggie Williams, Juan Rodriguez, and Justin Miller.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • lenscrafters Jan 30,2021 11:24 am || Up

      Are we sure we could afford the cash considerations?

      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 30,2021 12:48 pm || Up

        That’s where my 2020 A’s Access money is going.

  27. elcroata elcroata Jan 30,2021 9:39 am

    Because survival is insufficient
  28. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 30,2021 9:41 am

    Bruce Jenkins basically did this take unironically today re Bob Melvin.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 30,2021 12:34 pm || Up

      Melvin seems way too grounded to go in for such mumbo jumbo.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • mikeA Feb 1,2021 11:29 am || Up

      My “best fans” rankings:
      1. A’s
      2. Cardinals (big welcome to Mr. Arenado!)
      whatever
      29. Red Sox
      30. Giants

  29. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 30,2021 12:30 pm

    Couple of early preps for the Triple Crown running today, Holy Bull in Fla at 1:50 PDT and Robert B. Lewis Stakes at Santa Anita at 3:37.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • elcroata elcroata Jan 30,2021 1:09 pm || Up

      You’re the only horse race person I know – is Big Brown a well known horse?

      Because survival is insufficient
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 30,2021 3:01 pm || Up

        Yes! Won Derby and Preakness in 2008. At time Triple Crown drought was >30 years so there was enormous interest heading to the Belmont, which he was a heavy favorite and ran poorly.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  30. Future Ed Future Ed Jan 30,2021 5:47 pm

    I am not big on hot criminal justice taeks, but this makes me mad enough to type but not mean:

    Attempted murder

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • andeux andeux Jan 30,2021 6:04 pm || Up

      A post on social media described the demonstration as the “Scamdemic Protest/March.” It advised participants to “please refrain from wearing Trump/MAGA attire as we want our statement to resonate with the sheeple. No flags but informational signs only.

      “This is a sharing information protest and march against everything COVID, Vaccine, PCR Tests, Lockdowns, Masks, Fauci, Gates, Newsom, China, digital tracking, etc.”

      … Soros, Dominion voting systems, Jewish space lasers, her emails, the DH …

      TINSTAAFK
      • doctorK doctorK Jan 30,2021 8:31 pm || Up

        Water cannons are in order.

        • AV AV Jan 31,2021 1:01 pm || Up

          be real. those people only respond to teeshirt cannons.

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
          • doctorK doctorK Feb 2,2021 2:10 pm || Up

            That works too.

    • AV AV Jan 31,2021 1:15 pm || Up

      after finding out he’s in that band named after the part of a delillo novel that deals with messaging in/re mass behavior: i hate this framing.

      dear mikel, if that really is your spelling: “~30–50 fringers interrupted vaccination site for 55 minutes.” ok?

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  31. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 31,2021 10:58 am

    • andeux andeux Jan 31,2021 11:20 am || Up

      That sounds pretty reasonable
      – Vaccines may be widespread enough by the beginning of May that things start to get back to normal again, at least for some people, although I would still expect no or fewer fans for a couple months after that.
      – They are still losing 14 off-days? Would it be a normal schedule, or geographically limited like last year?
      – Expanded playoffs suck and with almost a full schedule there is no baseball reason to have them, but the owners need/want them to make up for decreased revenue in the regular season, so fine I guess. Just don’t make that permanent.
      – NL DH?

      TINSTAAFK
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 31,2021 11:23 am || Up

        I bet we’re looking at some scheduled seven-inning double headers to make up those lost two weeks.

        • Soaker Soaker Jan 31,2021 2:15 pm || Up

          Yes, playing one doubleheader at home and one away against each divisional opponent saves 8 days. Then reduce off-days from the current 20 in a 26-week season to 15 in a 23-week season. Some of that could be done by revising the interleague part of the schedule to eliminate those two-game series that have an off day on both sides, or on a Friday.

          Support locally made sausage!
          • ptbnl Jan 31,2021 2:19 pm || Up

            Make the A’s play all single-city, two-team, double-headers.

            If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  32. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 1,2021 11:11 am

    Some pretty heartfelt comments in here ($) from Canha, Pinder, and Bassitt about how important Semien was to the team culture.

    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 1,2021 12:51 pm || Up

      Also, Canha giving another data point for the 2015-2016 roster being a hotbed of assholes.

      “He’s created a culture here,” Canha said over the phone on Friday. “We didn’t have that culture when Marcus and I first showed up in 2015. It was a lot different four or five years ago. Young players couldn’t really speak up. That’s just how it was. Veterans ran the clubhouse, and they ran it a certain way, and in my opinion, it’s changed for the better. We’re a lot more inclusive now and that just allows for better cohesion and Marcus helped build that.

      “I have an outspoken personality and I kind of brought that with me in 2015 and it got kind of squashed a little bit. I realized that’s not how I’m supposed to act. I had to kind of not be myself, and then it changed with Marcus becoming our team captain. Things just became more of, like, laid back while still professional. You can definitely chalk up a lot of our team success to that.”

      • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 1,2021 1:04 pm || Up

        Josh reddick and billy butler were domineering types? You don’t say

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
  33. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 1,2021 12:11 pm

    I guess today is the day to dunk on the Chronicle.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 1,2021 12:49 pm || Up

      “I can prove the point in one snark”

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 1,2021 1:06 pm || Up

        I used to follow Jeet, thought he had an interesting perspective back in the days when he was kind of a Ta-Nehisi Coates reply guy turned real-time essayist. At some point post-2016 he became just another guy in Canada who loves Bernie and thinks American liberals are always doing it wrong. Got boring, unfollowed.

        • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 1,2021 1:36 pm || Up

          My follows require at least one snob who gratifies himself through random abstract intellectual references. And Hitchens is dead.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 1,2021 1:47 pm || Up

            Yeah, this is the good stuff right here.

            • AV AV Feb 1,2021 1:53 pm || Up

              he’s blown all possible credibility by not using BCE.

              also, 1521… shakespeare?? scoff. martin luther more like.

              *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
              • ptbnl Feb 1,2021 3:17 pm || Up

                Diet of Worms!

                If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
                • AV AV Feb 1,2021 4:29 pm || Up

                  and here i thought no mere slogan would get me to go vegan.

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 1,2021 1:59 pm || Up

          I unfollowed recently, probably similar reasons. Good ones find my way to the timeline

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • AV AV Feb 1,2021 1:57 pm || Up

      “when my students regurgitate what i’ve inculcated into them, it proves i’m right. THERE IS NO OTHER INTERPRETATION.”

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  34. AV AV Feb 1,2021 4:32 pm

    is gavin gonna get recalled?

    the sigs don’t seem to be a problem.

    also, when i googled to find the count, this was the top hit. see link at the bottom. totally what a legit news org should and would do.

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 1,2021 5:14 pm || Up

      there is enough chaos baked into the recall that it’s possible, yeah? I mean, I don’t think so? I had just moved back to CA for the last one. I think I am more confident that it won’t. Plus people had a hero to vote for in the last one. No star power this time.

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • AV AV Feb 1,2021 5:28 pm || Up

        dangle it in front of elon musk…

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • andeux andeux Feb 1,2021 6:16 pm || Up

          The facebook guy seems very Musk-ish, though not as well known (yet).

          TINSTAAFK
          • AV AV Feb 1,2021 9:48 pm || Up

            zuck?

            his personality has zero likes.

            *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
            • andeux andeux Feb 1,2021 10:21 pm || Up

              Chamath Palihapitiya. I only heard of him a week ago. Suddenly he is all over the news.
              – Supports the recall.
              – Running for governor on a platform of raising teachers’ salaries while eliminating state income tax. Somehow.
              – Got in on the gamestop thing because of course he did

              TINSTAAFK
              • AV AV Feb 2,2021 8:45 am || Up

                oh him. the feel-good venture capitalist and 1/10 owner of the warriors.

                *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 1,2021 6:04 pm || Up

        What I mostly remember from the Gray Davis recall was being annoyed that the bar to force the question seemed so low.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 1,2021 6:14 pm || Up

          Looking at it now and I’m still annoyed. It takes 1.5 million valid signatures to recall the Governor now. That’s not so much harder than the 623K to qualify a ballot measure. With no limits on funders.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  35. Future Ed Future Ed Feb 1,2021 5:12 pm

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  36. andeux andeux Feb 1,2021 7:32 pm

    TINSTAAFK
  37. Future Ed Future Ed Feb 2,2021 12:33 pm

    In the 600-1400-2000 debate, are people getting multiples of 600? We got the gift card this time and the amount was very weird. Like it include 25 cents. I am not sure what any of it meant. and I get really confused by people DEMANDING $2000.

    Like if I were single living alone and making less the 75 or whatever, do I get $600? Even?

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • 5Aces 5Aces Feb 2,2021 2:37 pm || Up

      I think everyone got 600 but the 1400 would be for those at 75 and under? Saw that somewhere today and it was the first time I had seen it.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
      • andeux andeux Feb 2,2021 2:42 pm || Up

        There have been income limits (based on 2019 income) on all of them.

        TINSTAAFK
        • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 2,2021 4:42 pm || Up

          I have never understood the limits. I don’t think we got anything last time, I could be wrong, but we got something this time and the amount, as reported by SLF was not something that I could easily parse out as $600 per adult and some other split for 2 kids.

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • andeux andeux Feb 2,2021 5:14 pm || Up

            From what I can find:

            The June 2020 one paid the full amount ($1200 for each adult, $500 for each child) for incomes below $75K (single), $112.5K (head of household), $150K (married), tapering down to 0 above $99K (single), $136.5K (hoh), $198K (married).

            The January 2021 one is similar, $600 per person, with the same upper limits for the full amount, but tapering off more quickly to 0 above $87K (single), $124.5K (hoh), $174K.

            So if you’re in that middle range, you could get some intermediate amount (though it sounds like it’s supposed to change in increments of $5). But I don’t see how you could have been eligible for the second one but not the first one.

            TINSTAAFK
            • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 2,2021 5:23 pm || Up

              It may have come in and I didn’t notice. I am not what you would call a “finance” guy

              I have $5. No I don\'t.
              • andeux andeux Feb 26,2021 11:22 am || Up

                Good news (for me): if your 2020 income is lower than 2019, you can still get the previous stimulus payments based on that amount.
                Bad news (for Ed): you have to list how much you’ve already gotten on your tax returns.

                TINSTAAFK
  38. lenscrafters Feb 2,2021 12:35 pm

    We can’t even have done this?

    • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 2,2021 12:46 pm || Up

      Agree to a point. Doolittle isn’t the best fit right now. He is not really a lefty specialist, but a lefty reliever is not the top priority right now.

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • andeux andeux Feb 2,2021 1:14 pm || Up

        Bullpen in general is probably the second highest priority after middle infielder, the money is practically nothing in baseball terms, and (per GM’s comment about Semien below) Doolittle is another guy who felt at home in Oakland and was loved by the fans. (And Cincy seems like an especially poor fit that way.)

        TINSTAAFK
        • colin colin Feb 3,2021 6:31 am || Up

          Going to start hanging out at all the local bookstores to meet Sean and Eireann

  39. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 2,2021 12:46 pm

    After all the players over the years who didn’t want to be here, they had this absolute mensch who really did want to be here and they blew him off. It’s depressing.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 2,2021 2:02 pm || Up

      Sagh.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  40. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 2,2021 2:46 pm

    This is extraordinarily funny.

    • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 2,2021 4:44 pm || Up

      Gotta love the free market

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • elcroata elcroata Feb 3,2021 6:29 am || Up

      This is gold

      Because survival is insufficient
    • andeux andeux Feb 4,2021 1:49 pm || Up

      Another day, another voting machine company suing for billions.
      And it seems plausible that these companies could show real damages (as opposed to punitive damages, or things like pain and suffering that are hard to quantify) that big. Giuliani is so fked.

      TINSTAAFK
  41. vignette17 Feb 2,2021 3:01 pm

    I gotta say, I’ve never been less excited for a baseball season to start. The A’s have made the playoffs three years in a row, and I don’t know if it’s the pandemic or not having as much free time or Fisher just not giving a shit, but I have given zero thought to how to improve the team or when pitchers and catchers report.

    I’ve never really understood how die-hards just give up on their teams and no longer even watch them. I probably won’t be that cold turkey, but god damn, the A’s are really trying to bring that out of us, right?

    • lenscrafters Feb 2,2021 3:36 pm || Up

      Yup. Apathy is a really dangerous emotion to signal to your fans. It’s something that’s very easily reflected back and once they do, well they won’t exactly be “fans” anymore.

    • 5Aces 5Aces Feb 2,2021 4:14 pm || Up

      I’ve been thinking if this is the year I save $x and not get the MLB package.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • Soaker Soaker Feb 2,2021 4:20 pm || Up

      Beyond the obvious issue with ownership’s refusal to fund a contender’s roster:

      1. Short-term, I’ve found that sports loses a lot of its appeal when there aren’t any fans in the stands. That postseason series at Dodger Stadium felt particularly hollow. This should improve over the course of the summer, but California’s political leadership seems determined to make its point that fully reopening sports is the absolute lowest priority.

      2. Medium-term, baseball looks to be headed for its worst labor crisis in nearly 30 years at the end of this season.

      3. Long-term, prospects for a new ballpark in Oakland or anywhere else in the Bay Area for that matter are as dim as they’ve been in a long time. At some point this decade the A’s have to be out of the Coliseum. I can’t see caring much about the Nashville Athletics.

      When the sky is that cloudy there aren’t any silver linings to be seen anywhere.

      Support locally made sausage!
    • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 2,2021 5:21 pm || Up

      I have been thinking about this comment for a bit. First reaction was it was 100% fischer. But the more I think about it, It’s probably a lot the pandemic itself. It’s hard to have energy for frivolities, And I have not suffered more than inconvenience and disappointments in opportunities for my kids to do fun things. School is fine. Work is fine. But I can’t really “enjoy” things.

      So, mostly the disinterest is on ficher, but it’s compounded greatly by whatever this whole thing is

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • andeux andeux Feb 2,2021 6:09 pm || Up

        There is certainly something in this. Not being able to go to games oneself makes it harder to engage, not having other fans there for the ones we watch on TV makes them feel more like exhibition games (Soaker’s point), and general feelings of malaise can make it harder to fully enjoy anything (your point).

        But, counterpoint, for me probably the worst part was the first few months when it was spring/summer and on top of everything else there was no fking baseball to watch. And even though I was on record as thinking MLB/NFL should and probably would cancel there seasons, ultimately I was glad they managed to pull something off.

        Returning to the original part: objectively speaking this probably won’t be close to the worst team we’ve had even in recent years. The Geren era was pretty sad, and the 2015-17 teams didn’t have much to recommend them either (and as noted upthread included some pretty unlikable players).
        And of course, getting to some ballgames is going to be high on my list of things to do as soon as I can get vaccinated (assuming hopefully that is before the end of the season), even if the team ends up being worse than I think.
        But management not caring about the team, at a time when they seemingly had a good chance to contend, really does make things tough as a fan. As lc suggests, if they don’t care, then why should we?

        TINSTAAFK
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 2,2021 5:24 pm || Up

      “I’ve never really understood how die-hards just give up on their teams and no longer even watch them.”

      My theory has always been that they don’t. Even the ones who performatively burn their jerseys. Most backslide and/or hate watch. I’m not sure what the methadone for sports fandom is.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • batgirl batgirl Feb 4,2021 7:18 am || Up

        My methadone for football was the combo of the treatment of Colin Kaepernic and brain trauma (and it not helping that the Broncos generally suck.) Last season, I probably watched 15 snaps. This season, that number is zero. I just have no interest in the NFL and that has even bled over to watching Stanford games. No clue if I’ll ever watch again.

        I agree that I am just so disheartened by the A’s that I don’t know how much I’ll care this year. I’m sure they’ll pull me back in, but I’ve definitely tipped from my attitude of “I hate losing my favorite players, but we’re scrappy and I wear it as a badge of honor” to “I hate losing my favorite players and I’m fed up with these cheap ass billionaires fucking with my team.”

  42. elcroata elcroata Feb 3,2021 6:38 am

    Hey everybody,

    as you probably know, I’ve been making a lot of crosswords lately because, well, there are not that many things to do, and I like it. There is a limit on the number of submissions for novice constructors and as I would like to increase my chances it would be best if I only sent my best ones. In order to know which ones are the best, I have set up a page (Croatswords, password: Natick) where you can test solve my not-yet-submitted puzzles and rate them. I have added that page to the Blogroll. If you are ever inclined to do so, I appreciate any and all feedback.

    Whenever I add a new one, I will reply to this comment.

    Because survival is insufficient
    • andeux andeux Feb 4,2021 1:16 pm || Up

      The link to the rating page for “Treat Trigger” goes to the page for “Sweet Vermont” instead.

      Also, I don’t know if you want feedback on overall difficulty, but you could add a question for that, along with some calibration (1=NYT Mon, 10=NYT Sat, or whatever).

      TINSTAAFK
    • elcroata elcroata Feb 7,2021 9:37 am || Up

      New one up

      Because survival is insufficient
  43. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 3,2021 7:33 am

    How did I miss this one?

    • 5Aces 5Aces Feb 4,2021 10:18 am || Up

      I’m totally done with that and I still and furious I didnt think of it.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  44. Future Ed Future Ed Feb 3,2021 12:09 pm

    You can add this to the why couldn’t the A’s do that file

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  45. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 3,2021 1:16 pm

  46. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 3,2021 1:33 pm

    I miss Better Call Saul. I want more episodes yesterday. Here’s a great profile of Rhea Seahorn, who once again today was absolutely robbed by not being nominated for an acting award (this time the Golden Globes).

    Turns out she pronounces her name “Ray” and not Ree-uh as I’d always assumed.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • sslinger Feb 3,2021 4:40 pm || Up

      I’m kinda glad I didn’t get into the show as I am now looking at it as one to watch. I started thinking about it after listening to her WTF interview.

  47. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 3,2021 5:28 pm

    Hmm, the GOP conference is mad that Liz Cheney isn’t sorry, and gives Marjorie Taylor Qreene a standing ovation. I’m sure glad they learned their lesson.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 3,2021 5:39 pm || Up

      It’s nice that the daily wtf moments aren’t the president. I fear her power growing id she is stripped of committees and I fear of her power growing if she remains on the committees

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 3,2021 7:22 pm || Up

        She’s a lunatic and I don’t fear her either way, short of being in a room together maskless. What’s really got me shook is that, far from repudiating them, the GOP as an institution is rushing to get back in good with the anti-democracy mob. I knew Trump had no bottom to the depth he’d sink, but I’ve still tried to think the non-crazy GOP had some line they wouldn’t cross. I wonder if I’ll ever stop falling for that.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • ptbnl Feb 3,2021 8:12 pm || Up

          Who knew that “murdering a police officer in the Capitol” wouldn’t cross a line for them.

          If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
          • AV AV Feb 3,2021 8:21 pm || Up

            blinkered by their zealous love of law and order.

            *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 4,2021 10:34 am || Up

        What is happening.

        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 4,2021 10:37 am || Up

          New frontiers in passive voice usage.

          • andeux andeux Feb 4,2021 10:40 am || Up

            Sounds like we need an investigation into who allowed that to happen. Probably Hillary Clinton.

            TINSTAAFK
            • ptbnl Feb 4,2021 10:50 am || Up

              If the liberal media hadn’t been so busy silencing her, she would have been able to make these statements before being threatened with the loss of her committee positions. So really it’s their fault (and by “they” I mean Hillary Clinton).

              If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
          • elcroata elcroata Feb 4,2021 11:50 am || Up

            Mistakes were made

            Because survival is insufficient
    • doctorK doctorK Feb 4,2021 9:46 am || Up

      Somehow, that anger didn’t carry over to getting her out of the leadership post.

      I’m sure she’ll have to deal with some extreme knuckle-dragger(s) next year in the primary, though.

  48. sslinger Feb 4,2021 8:40 pm

    Sad news from Poppy tonight. Poppy, if you’re lurking, I’m sorry to hear of your loss.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 5,2021 9:00 am || Up

      One of the FK OGs, hope she’s alright.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 5,2021 9:54 am || Up

        sending love to poppy and the entire poppy family.

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
  49. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 5,2021 12:37 pm
    • AV AV Feb 5,2021 1:09 pm || Up

      if this isn’t about how the scott adams podcast has +1200 episodes because he puts one out every day, sometimes twice, then i don’t want it.

      EDIT: i want it!

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 5,2021 1:14 pm || Up

        wow, that is more than the watt from pedro show

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
  50. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 5,2021 1:34 pm

    Good lord

  51. Future Ed Future Ed Feb 6,2021 11:08 am

    have tp process this

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • mother pucker Feb 6,2021 11:17 am || Up

      Andrus having a career WAR over 30 (though it is dropping) was as surprising (to me) as this trade.

      • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 6,2021 11:20 am || Up

        i don’t really understand

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 6,2021 11:47 am || Up

        His bat has completely fallen off the table but he should still be a plus on defense. Do not like giving up Heim at all, especially if we included him just to get money back.

    • elcroata elcroata Feb 6,2021 11:30 am || Up

      Can we have Beltre, too?

      Because survival is insufficient
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 6,2021 12:40 pm || Up

        How does Chapman feel about having his head touched?

    • andeux andeux Feb 6,2021 12:10 pm || Up

      I don’t know what to think either.

      Khris and Elvis were both below replacement level last year, and even if they bounce back this year, aren’t players you would want at $15M+ going forward.

      It seems reasonable to think that Elvis will provide a little more value at SS than Khris will at DH, especially given the current needs. So from just the on-field perspective, this probably makes us (a little) better in the short term.

      But they’re taking on two extra years of commitment beyond this one. Depending on how much money is coming back, that could be very bad, and pretty un-A’s like — generally they’re much more conservative about committing money for longer-term contracts than for shorter ones. But seeing this move, following the failure to make a competitive offer to Semien even for a single year, makes me think that the current situation is more about avoiding short-term losses given the diminished revenue last year and this. So they’re maybe saving a little cash this season, at the cost of a greater liability in future years. Makes sense from the “fantasy CFO” perspective, but not great overall.

      And I am bummed about losing my homie Jonah Heim too. Don’t really know about the other players involved, but doesn’t sound like anyone too significant on either side.

      TINSTAAFK
      • Soaker Soaker Feb 6,2021 12:22 pm || Up

        Looks like a small net saving of money, actually.

        Support locally made sausage!
        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 6,2021 12:35 pm || Up

          Apparently there’s a 2023 option that now belongs to Andrus, but yes the Rangers bought five cheap years of a nice upgrade from Jeff Mathis by saving Fisher some short-term expenses.

          • lenscrafters Feb 6,2021 1:19 pm || Up

            There’s some confusion over whether that option automatically becomes a player option or if Andrus still has to vest it with the PA goal. Rosenthal reported the former first but now seems to be walking it back to the latter. I dug up the old MLBTR article about him signing the contract and it seems to confirm the latter:

            Should Andrus stay in Texas and make either 550 plate appearances in 2022, or 1,100 appearances combined in 2021-22, then a $15MM team option vests for 2023. But, if Andrus reaches those PA targets and instead plays out the contract with another club (presumably as a result of a trade or waiver claim), then a $15MM player option vests for 2023.

            This makes me feel better then. I think there’s almost no scenario where the A’s give him enough PAs for that option to vest (unless by some miracle he actually performed well enough to justify the PAs).

            So the A’s dumped Davis’s 1/16.75, took on Andrus at 2/14.5 (taking into account the cash the Rangers are sending), and sent two non zero young players to make up the difference. This isn’t great because Andrus is probably not gonna be good (obviously Marcus at 1/18 would be better), but it’s the type of Faustian bargain you make when your owner deals you a shitty hand. You can still live with it.

            If it comes out that Andrus’s 3rd year does actually become an auto player option, this would be really, really bad.

            • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 6,2021 4:52 pm || Up

              This certainly fits with a overall imperative to reduce 2021 payroll no matter what. I am glad I don’t have to spend another year feeling bad for Khris every day.

              "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  52. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 6,2021 12:01 pm

    This won’t end well.

  53. Soaker Soaker Feb 6,2021 12:27 pm

    I’m sure FSU will be yelling at his TV anyway this afternoon, but this is quite a streak that’s ending.

    There are 15 games with at least one ranked team involved scheduled to be played Saturday. But North Carolina-Duke, widely regarded as the greatest rivalry in the sport, won’t be one of them because both the Tar Heels and Blue Devils are unranked in the Associated Press Top 25 poll.

    This is a rare happening.

    The last time it happened, in fact, was Feb. 27, 1960. Mike Krzyzewski was 13. Roy Williams was 9. North Carolina won the game, 75-50.

    That is so far back in the prehistoric era of college basketball that the defending national champion was (gasp!) Cal.

    Support locally made sausage!
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 6,2021 4:50 pm || Up

      My dad was a UNC sophomore at the time. Today is his 80th birthday.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  54. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 6,2021 12:38 pm

    Puk to bullpen officially I guess.

    Yikes

    • andeux andeux Feb 6,2021 1:19 pm || Up

      Having too many healthy starting pitchers has never been a problem for the A’s.

      TINSTAAFK
    • mikeA Feb 6,2021 5:07 pm || Up

      It’s all coming together!

  55. lenscrafters Feb 6,2021 1:29 pm

    There were some rumors about Benintendi earlier, this seems like it would open up some cash/roster spot for him? There’s a spot now for LF/DH with Grossman/Davis’s departures.

    • Future Ed Future Ed Feb 6,2021 1:53 pm || Up

      As sad as I am to see davis go, his production made me sad and “roster flexibility” is a real benefit

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Feb 6,2021 2:14 pm || Up

        Gotta be a relief for Melvin not having to figure out ways to force him into the lineup.

  56. Future Ed Future Ed Feb 6,2021 6:25 pm

    I guess this is OK given what is left on the market, but Semien and Wong were also on the market.

    I have $5. No I don\'t.

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