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Susan Collins is concerned

Because survival is insufficient

234 thoughts on “America’s Coup Live

  1. elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 12:20 pm

    Because survival is insufficient
    • elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 12:21 pm || Up

      All the changes in DoD paying off, I guess

      Because survival is insufficient
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 6,2021 12:33 pm || Up

      Yeah this was a concern raised during the George Floyd protests. Between the Guard, federal police, DHS, Border Patrol and ICE etc. that’s a lot of guns under direct executive branch command.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 6,2021 12:36 pm || Up

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • colin colin Jan 6,2021 1:53 pm || Up

      NYTimes is reporting that the DC National Guard have been activated / are being deployed.

    • ptbnl Jan 6,2021 2:33 pm || Up

      Or the Vice-President in this case … what a FKing patsy that piece of sanctimonious shit is.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  2. Future Ed Future Ed Jan 6,2021 12:23 pm

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  3. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 12:26 pm

    McConnell might be talked into providing the removal votes today, if only the House could safely convene to impeach.

    • elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 12:30 pm || Up

      I thought about that, too. He has to survive, first.

      Because survival is insufficient
    • andeux andeux Jan 6,2021 1:05 pm || Up

      Are you serious?

      TINSTAAFK
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 1:09 pm || Up

        Kind of? I honestly think this is so out of control that there could be conversations among some republican senators right now, maybe even with Pence, about whether we can take another two weeks. It’s not likely, obviously, but these are uncharted waters, and it is happening the day after the limits of Trumpism at the ballot box were clearly demonstrated.

        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 4:48 pm || Up

          • ptbnl Jan 6,2021 4:50 pm || Up

            It would strip him of the pension too.

            If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 8,2021 7:31 am || Up

    • elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 4:06 pm || Up
      Because survival is insufficient
      • sslinger Jan 6,2021 4:11 pm || Up

        As meanwhile the DOW is up 1.44% today. I thought the market was supposed to dislike uncertainty?

  4. Future Ed Future Ed Jan 6,2021 12:26 pm

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  5. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 6,2021 12:30 pm

    On the FK home page the thumbnails don’t distinguish between the body of the post and the author’s sig line. So I briefly thought Susan Collins had resigned in protest.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 12:32 pm || Up

      Very briefly, right?

      Because survival is insufficient
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 6,2021 12:37 pm || Up

        No, at http://freekraut.net/ you see:

        America’s Coup Live
        JAN 6, 2021

        Susan Collins is concerned I hate when people resign before I figure out why I’m winning

        I think you’d have to insert more text or empty line returns to change that, but I hope you don’t, it’s great.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 12:39 pm || Up

          No, I meant you entertained the idea that Susan Collins actually has a backbone only very briefly

          Because survival is insufficient
          • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 6,2021 1:15 pm || Up

            LOL. That’s exactly how it went in my head. “Collins resigned in protest, that can’t be right.”

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 12:40 pm || Up

          I need a gif of Mr. Shaibel saying “now you resign.”

  6. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 12:32 pm

    Why are none of these suddenly troubled Republicans calling for Trump’s immediate resignation to save the FKing country? Hell, why aren’t the Democrats?

  7. elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 12:34 pm

    Because survival is insufficient
  8. elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 12:37 pm

    Northam sending National Guard from Virginia

    Because survival is insufficient
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 12:38 pm || Up

      Send in Maryland’s too. Pincer movement.

  9. elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 12:44 pm

    The assholes finally getting peppersprayed

    Because survival is insufficient
  10. Future Ed Future Ed Jan 6,2021 12:47 pm

    this is from the asshole who tweeted a pic saying he was in pelosi’s office. it has since been taken down

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 6,2021 12:51 pm || Up

      this dude hasn’t tweeted in an hour. Assuming he is under arrest

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  11. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 12:47 pm

  12. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 12:54 pm

    • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 6,2021 12:59 pm || Up

      defund the police

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      • ptbnl Jan 6,2021 2:46 pm || Up

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  13. elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 1:05 pm

    The guy in front of the Capitol now shouting through the megaphone for the mob to go and get rid of the news people

    Because survival is insufficient
  14. Future Ed Future Ed Jan 6,2021 1:08 pm

    I gotta say, Joe biden is not the guy for this. I do not wnat to be chummy

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 1:13 pm || Up

      Not the guy for what, exactly? There’s a lot going on.

      • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 6,2021 1:15 pm || Up

        for prosecuting the maga idiots.

        He is going to turn the other cheek.

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 6,2021 1:19 pm || Up

      He was exactly the guy for that speech just now though. That’s what a President is supposed to do. Stand up for basic freedom and decency.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 6,2021 1:21 pm || Up

        ok, yeah, for Jan 6, he is the guy, I worry about the forgiveness guy Jan 21

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 6,2021 1:24 pm || Up

          By contrast in Trump’s message he complains about his stolen landslide election in the first sentence, calls the other side evil, and tells the brownshirts he loves them.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 1:25 pm || Up

          Not his job to demand prosecutions. Merrick Garland is a righteous guy, and by all accounts the deputies are very good, so I am comfortable that justice will prevail.

          • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 6,2021 1:28 pm || Up

            yeah. probably he is doing it better than I would.

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
  15. elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 1:13 pm

    Because survival is insufficient
  16. elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 1:15 pm

    Because survival is insufficient
    • andeux andeux Jan 6,2021 4:35 pm || Up

      Next up, our theater critic’s rave review of Our American Cousin.

      TINSTAAFK
  17. lenscrafters Jan 6,2021 1:16 pm

    Jesus. fucking. christ.

  18. AV AV Jan 6,2021 1:21 pm

    ballpark figure!

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 6,2021 1:26 pm || Up

      Very industrious, it can’t have been easy to set up the canopy and gear right at the foot of the Capitol steps in the middle of a riot. Real bootstraps story. I’d wager a lot that the proprietor is an immigrant.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  19. elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 1:22 pm

    It speaks

    Because survival is insufficient
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 1:23 pm || Up

      “You’re very special.”

    • Soaker Soaker Jan 6,2021 1:37 pm || Up

      What a sad and disgusting day to be an American citizen. It’s five o’clock somewhere.

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  20. elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 1:24 pm

    At least this

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  21. Future Ed Future Ed Jan 6,2021 1:25 pm

    I don’t think the capitol can be cleared. today. they are going to have to do the election at the alternate location.

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  22. elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 1:32 pm

    Because survival is insufficient
    • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 6,2021 1:36 pm || Up

      that is not what “breech” means

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 1:45 pm || Up

      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 6,2021 2:07 pm || Up

        Obviously the cops are way friendlier with the rightists, today and every day. But withdrawing when outnumbered is a common cop tactic during protests. The more outrageous fault is in having reached that point at all.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  23. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 1:41 pm

    Uh……what??

  24. Future Ed Future Ed Jan 6,2021 1:42 pm

    Almost there:

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  25. elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 1:44 pm

    Can’t wait to hear from that piece of shit Ted Cruz

    Because survival is insufficient
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 1:44 pm || Up

      He’s the victim in all of this, somehow. Anyway, send him money.

      • AV AV Jan 6,2021 1:50 pm || Up

        no, he’s speaking directly to those causing division.

        oh wait.

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 1:51 pm || Up

          Wish they would stop saying half the country disagrees with me. It ain’t half. We counted.

          • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 6,2021 2:00 pm || Up

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 1:53 pm || Up

      Don’t forget this other piece of shit.

  26. elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 1:49 pm

    In other coup news

    Because survival is insufficient
  27. Future Ed Future Ed Jan 6,2021 1:51 pm

    what is happening here?

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  28. elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 1:55 pm

    Ryan McCarthy of Capitol Police saying that DoD didn’t deny the request, only needed time to gather more information, which was around half an hour

    Because survival is insufficient
  29. elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 1:56 pm

    This would actually be another great argument to give DC statehood

    Because survival is insufficient
  30. Future Ed Future Ed Jan 6,2021 1:58 pm

    Seems like he wants to be more like Lincoln

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  31. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 2:00 pm

  32. elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 2:01 pm

    Remember when Trump demanded ten years minimum for anyone damaging federal property?

    Because survival is insufficient
  33. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 6,2021 2:03 pm

    I’ve been to a lot of protests, including many which started in daylight and morphed after dark. This is the time when those who aren’t down for violence will leave, and the crowd will start to look like they’re dispersing. 2-3 hours later though it’ll be gangs of 10-25 guys hitting targets and moving, hitting and moving, way faster than the cops can keep up with. In the last DC fascist rally a handful of regular folks got beaten in the streets, just for kicks. I hope everyone stays home tonight.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 6,2021 2:06 pm || Up

      Yup, I will say the WTO in seattle in 99 was different, after the tear gas started in the morning, it was on all day

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 2:16 pm || Up

      The last sentence of this is important. These people clearly think this putsch is going to result in them not facing consequences, so they are capable of anything.

      • elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 2:22 pm || Up

        Fuck yeah. They must be thinking – “it’s that easy?”

        Because survival is insufficient
  34. andeux andeux Jan 6,2021 2:05 pm

    I had a comment half-written in my head before the 2016 election, undecided on whether I would post it here, or fb, or nowhere. As it was based on the assumption that Trump had lost, nowhere won out, but much of what I thought at the time still applies.
    The gist was: Trump had not only lost but done serious damage to the whole Republican party, by exposing the truly ugly side of their base, the racists and anti-immigrants and fascist sympathizers, and thereby repelling a sizeable bloc of moderate voters. But, at this same time, this was not all good news for Democrats (and democrats). Things were still going to get worse before they got better. Because showing the base for what it was put establishment Republicans like McConnell in a bind. They didn’t really want to embrace the crazies, but now they realized they needed them. So the winking encouragement, the dog whistles, that had been going on at least since the time of Reagan, would only increase. The fringe had seen its power, and the tail was now wagging the dog. (Too many dog metaphors?) And it wouldn’t end unless the GOP truly imploded.
    Looking back, I feel like the main thrust of what I was thinking at the time was spot on, but I missed some of the nuances. If anything, I was too optimistic.
    Most obviously, Trump won that election, and the damage he has done to the country (public health, the budget, corruption and the rule of law) and the world (climate change, any sense of the US as a leader) are enormously worse than what he had done as a mere candidate. One aspect that it took me the full four years to understand (and that I’ve already commented on here) is that his worst aspects (the constant lying, the incitements to violence, the not even pretending to care about anyone outside his tribe) attract and excite almost as many voters as they repel. That’s depressing in its own right, and also has potentially grim implications for the post-Trump GOP, and whether that implosion will ever happen. Relatedly, given his power, mainstream Republicans followed his lead more enthusiastically than I expected. Senators like Susan Collins who might have been expected to reject him went limply along instead, and those like Lindsey Graham who might have gone limply along became full-on cheerleaders.
    So here we are. In terms of the direct damage of Trumpism, today might be the nadir, or if not today, then some time in the next two weeks. Democrats will control the government, and start to undo some of the damage of the last four years. Given the small margin in the Senate (along with the probable continuation of the filibuster) and an extremely activist and hostile Supreme Court, that work will be frustratingly slow, but it will happen one way of another.
    But in the broader sense, I fear that “it will get worse before it gets better” is still true. Voters have rejected Trumpism just enough to swing the presidency and the Senate, but not enough to force the much-needed reckoning on the right. I hear rumblings that McConnell is ready for a clean break, but I suspect the calculus will remain the same: they can’t afford to lose the fringe, so they will keep stoking it instead, denouncing the most extreme parts (armed storming of the Capitol, elections being rigged), while still feeding the sentiment underlying it (voter suppression in the name of making elections more “secure,” fear-mongering about BLM and antifa and “creeping socialism” and “they’re coming for your guns”). And they may well be able to pull it off, and take back congress in 2022 or the presidency in 2024. I don’t know how we prevent the second wave.

    TINSTAAFK
    • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 6,2021 2:18 pm || Up

      I have nothing to add but it reminded me that today I was appearing in court over zoom, my client in a residential treatment program appearing over zoom. You could see the house dog wandering about. When you call a case you announce your name and the clients name for the record, so today I got to say “Ed Sidawi for ms nash who is appearing remotely with a very good boy”

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 6,2021 2:45 pm || Up

      Until Nov 2016, but throughout that campaign, I still thought the numbers of the overt racist/fascists were greatly overstated by the social media echo chamber. Since then it’s become horribly clear that there are a lot of actual right-wing extremists, and that the GOP is conditioned to use them to further their evil but more traditional goals. I also date this back to Reagan, with the Christian conservatives. The mechanism is the same, it’s just the fringe that’s different, and larger.

      I don’t see the GOP breaking out of that dynamic, and it sucks that we’re relying on the message of people like Mitt Romney to save us further decay. I don’t think it’s going to change and I am very worried that the next contender for lead fascist will be much more adept at avoiding Trump’s most idiotic steps.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Soaker Soaker Jan 6,2021 3:12 pm || Up

        I also date this back to Reagan, with the Christian conservatives. The mechanism is the same, it’s just the fringe that’s different, and larger.

        On the Big Island beaches a few weeks ago I read the first in Perlstein’s series, Before the Storm. It’s a good look at Trumpism in its nascency in Barry Goldwater’s candidacy. Perlstein wrote that about 20 years ago with no knowledge of the Trumpism to come.

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        • colin colin Jan 7,2021 8:07 am || Up

          It’s on my bedside table for imminent reading

  35. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 2:14 pm

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 6,2021 2:50 pm || Up

      Predicting now that at least some of these fuckers like Cruz and Hawley are going to claim that failing to certify the electoral votes today means [fill in specious unconstitutional bullshit] Trump gets re-elected.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 2:54 pm || Up

        Not Cruz or Hawley, but probably some of the loonier house members and maybe Coach Tuberville, who will describe his reasoning in terms of the BCS rankings or something.

        • andeux andeux Jan 6,2021 3:06 pm || Up

          Trump is always #1 in the coaches poll, I’m sure.

          TINSTAAFK
          • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 4:44 pm || Up

            • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 4:57 pm || Up

              • Soaker Soaker Jan 6,2021 5:03 pm || Up

                Glad to see somebody shares my sense of humor on this shameful day.

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  36. AV AV Jan 6,2021 2:22 pm

    i’m getting about as much work done today as the police.

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  37. Future Ed Future Ed Jan 6,2021 2:24 pm

    I hope my guess is right, that those outside are being allowed to leave and those inside are getting arrested

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 2:39 pm || Up

      When Erdogan thinks you’ve gone too far…

      Turkey, a U.S. NATO ally that has been widely criticized for jailing thousands of critics, academics, journalists and artists and has seen its partnership with the United States deteriorate in recent years, called on “all parties in the U.S.A. to show restraint and common sense,” in a statement released by its foreign ministry.

      Because survival is insufficient
  38. AV AV Jan 6,2021 2:29 pm

    she says it like it was a stupid question about a reasonable action.

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  39. elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 2:49 pm

    Oh, I know the answer to this one!

    Because survival is insufficient
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 3:50 pm || Up

      Reason to doubt right now whether Trump is actually in control of the executive branch. This could get super weird.

  40. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 6,2021 2:53 pm

    Noticing how seamlessly New England Patriots attire fits in with the MAGA crowd. No A’s gear spotted yet, thankfully.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  41. elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 2:55 pm

    That’s a troll de primera clase

    Because survival is insufficient
  42. elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 3:05 pm

    Christ, what an asshole

    Because survival is insufficient
    • elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 3:08 pm || Up

      I mean if USA is really just a banana republic at this point, then why not treat the failed coup leader as they do in banana republics?

      Because survival is insufficient
    • elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 3:12 pm || Up

      Because survival is insufficient
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 6,2021 3:51 pm || Up

      Remember this day forever. That’s Goebbles-style rhetoric. Despicable.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 3:52 pm || Up

        It was deleted by Twitter

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        • Soaker Soaker Jan 6,2021 3:55 pm || Up

          As was the “You’re very special” speech you posted upthread.

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  43. sslinger Jan 6,2021 3:08 pm

    I think this is an appropriate time to honor our scoreboard.

  44. elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 3:22 pm
    Because survival is insufficient
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 3:24 pm || Up

      Unfortunately, that’s Ted’s kink.

  45. elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 3:28 pm
    Because survival is insufficient
    • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 6,2021 5:29 pm || Up

      That can be taken two ways.

      My dad described it “It’s like mañana, without the urgency.”

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  46. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 3:29 pm

    Mitt!

    We gather today due to a selfish man’s injured pride and the outrage of his supporters whom he has deliberately misinformed for the past two months and stirred to action this very morning. What happened here today was an insurrection, incited by the President of the United States. Those who choose to continue to support his dangerous gambit by objecting to the results of a legitimate, democratic election will forever be seen as being complicit in an unprecedented attack against our democracy. They will be remembered for their role in this shameful episode in American history. That will be their legacy.

    • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 6,2021 5:30 pm || Up

      Willard just doesn’t want to be seen as a rat

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  47. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 3:34 pm

    AYFKM

    • elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 3:36 pm || Up

      This is a fucking joke. Nobody is getting fucking arrested

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      • ptbnl Jan 6,2021 3:38 pm || Up

        Hey now … 13 arrests!

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
        • elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 3:50 pm || Up

          I bet at least the half are black congresspeople

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          • AV AV Jan 6,2021 4:43 pm || Up

            some journos.

            zoanne murphy is on wapo live right now talking about how they got stopped, she asked if they were arrested, and it was confirmed yes.

            *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
            • AV AV Jan 6,2021 4:44 pm || Up

              oh wait. they’re letting them go if they have press creds.

              *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
              • AV AV Jan 6,2021 4:53 pm || Up

                these are curfew kettles that started at 7:30.

                *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
            • elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 4:52 pm || Up

              Yeah, I’m watching it, too. Should go to bed, but just can’t

              Because survival is insufficient
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 6,2021 4:11 pm || Up

        It’s not the biggest issue at the moment, but later on I want to hear more about the advance planning for today. Supposedly they put a lot of work into the coordination plans between Capitol and DC police and others. Now, maybe not everyone predicted how today would go down but a whole lot of people did. How could they possibly be so unprepared?

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 4:13 pm || Up

          I’d expect congressional hearings on it very soon, followed by a detailed report.

          • elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 4:24 pm || Up

            This might actually have bipartisan support. They shat pants on both side of the aisle.

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    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 6,2021 4:38 pm || Up

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 6,2021 5:34 pm || Up

      this fills me with so much rage

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  48. elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 3:48 pm

    Because survival is insufficient
  49. elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 4:38 pm

    Wow, so there is a line

    Because survival is insufficient
    • ptbnl Jan 6,2021 4:42 pm || Up

      Though Heather Heyer’s mother’s words apply here too:

      This path has always been predictable. And for people to now go, ‘I never knew this would happen,’ why not? How would you not see this happen?

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • andeux andeux Jan 6,2021 4:52 pm || Up

        Maybe we are, belatedly, at that “At long last, have you left no sense of decency?” moment when even the people who have already established that they have no sense of decency start to calculate that being on the side of the crazies is no longer good for their careers.

        TINSTAAFK
        • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 6,2021 5:35 pm || Up

          It’s so depressing.

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • AV AV Jan 6,2021 6:20 pm || Up

          it’s the perfect time to put in their too weak notice.

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • ptbnl Jan 6,2021 6:26 pm || Up

          The rats are jumping fast – deputy press secretary Sarah Matthews, social secretary Rickie Niceta, deputy chief of staff Chris Liddell, and (possibly) national security adviser Robert O’Brien and deputy adviser Matthew Pottinger.

          If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
          • AV AV Jan 6,2021 7:17 pm || Up
            *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  50. elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 5:41 pm

    LOL, Loeffler

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    • Soaker Soaker Jan 6,2021 5:47 pm || Up

      Now I’m watching. I hate that you have to explain any of this to your friends in Stuttgart who don’t understand the nuances of the USA the way you do. Almost 60 years now and I’ve never felt so ashamed as I am today.

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      • elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 5:50 pm || Up

        Yeah, it’s always a challenge, and I guess it will be even more so tomorrow

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  51. elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 5:49 pm

    Booker calling out Cruz on fundraising, as well he should

    Because survival is insufficient
  52. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 5:52 pm

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 6,2021 6:15 pm || Up

      Getting 11 or more of this motley crew to vote Trump crazy would be shocking.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  53. elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 6:20 pm

    Hawley is a spineless asshole and an insurrectionist, sure, but he also says IRREGARDLESS!!!

    Because survival is insufficient
    • andeux andeux Jan 6,2021 6:24 pm || Up

      Education Stanford University (BA)
      Yale University (JD)

      TINSTAAFK
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 6,2021 6:46 pm || Up

        Early life and education
        Hawley was born in Springdale, Arkansas, but soon moved to Lexington, Missouri…

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • colin colin Jan 7,2021 8:11 am || Up

        We were the same year at Stanford. I don’t think I ever met him though.

        • andeux andeux Jan 7,2021 12:26 pm || Up

          It looks like one of my college classmates will be Biden’s Secretary of Commerce, but likewise I did not know her.

          TINSTAAFK
  54. AV AV Jan 6,2021 6:27 pm

    where are we? is this the chance for them to object? or is this the debate after someone objects?

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 6:31 pm || Up

      It’s after the Arizona objection. The hope is, it would be the last one. Original plan was to object to anything between 3 and 6 states certifications

      Because survival is insufficient
      • AV AV Jan 6,2021 6:34 pm || Up

        when loeff said she wasn’t going to object i thought we were in the other part.

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 6:42 pm || Up

          That was referring to further objections on the states to come

          Because survival is insufficient
  55. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 6:30 pm

    Think this is the debate after an objection (to Arizona). They’re not supposed to talk during the joint counting session.

    • AV AV Jan 6,2021 6:32 pm || Up

      k.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 6,2021 6:49 pm || Up

        Yeah, each chamber separate/simultaneous consideration. Then they’ll reconvene jointly, then perhaps there will or won’t be further states objected to. We’re still in the A’s.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 6,2021 6:51 pm || Up

          Rep Mo Brooks of Alabama full steam ahead with his illegal alien ballot fraud rant.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 6:51 pm || Up

          Best wishes and go A’s

          Because survival is insufficient
  56. andeux andeux Jan 6,2021 6:53 pm

    They better not preempt Jeopardy for this shit.

    TINSTAAFK
    • andeux andeux Jan 6,2021 6:59 pm || Up

      Goddamnit

      TINSTAAFK
    • andeux andeux Jan 6,2021 8:26 pm || Up

      Jeopardy aired at 8. One of the categories is “Your Government at Work.”

      TINSTAAFK
  57. Future Ed Future Ed Jan 6,2021 6:56 pm

    who is lindsey graham?

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 6:57 pm || Up

      Aspiring comedian

      Because survival is insufficient
      • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 6,2021 6:59 pm || Up

        maybe i’ll follow on twitter

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Soaker Soaker Jan 6,2021 7:00 pm || Up

      This drunk Senator from South Carolina made a fool of himself on the Senate floor on January 6, 2021.

      Support locally made sausage!
      • elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 7:02 pm || Up

        LOL

        Because survival is insufficient
      • elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 7:08 pm || Up

        Because survival is insufficient
  58. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 7:29 pm

  59. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 7:40 pm

  60. Future Ed Future Ed Jan 6,2021 7:41 pm

    Honestly? If Matt Goetz or josh hawley were my clients, I would declare a doubt to their competence and have them committed to the state metal hospital

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 6,2021 8:08 pm || Up

      Nah, stake your defense on their unshakeable righteous belief. At least they aren’t admitting their fraud claims were always bullshit, like the Loefflers and such.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  61. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 6,2021 7:42 pm

  62. Future Ed Future Ed Jan 6,2021 8:57 pm

    I mean, yeah, all the people in the room with you conceded, but I remember one guys supporters weren’t so acted, well, let’s say today reminded me of something.

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  63. ptbnl Jan 6,2021 9:18 pm

    And Hawley wins the competition for biggest senate FKwit, dealing Cruz yet another painful loss.

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  64. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 6,2021 11:08 pm

    Andy Harris is a 63 year old former anesthesiologist. Collin Allred is a 37 year old former NFL linebacker.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • vignette17 Jan 7,2021 2:03 pm || Up

      Ah so they both have first hand experience with heavy narcotics.

    • andeux andeux Jan 7,2021 2:15 pm || Up

      TINSTAAFK
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 7,2021 2:22 pm || Up

        I guess Andy Harris was just itching the throw hands with a former pro athlete and Al Lawson was closer.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 7,2021 2:30 pm || Up

          The Republicans are low on former pro athletes these days, aren’t they. What happened to the days of Jim Bunning and J.C. Watts?

          • andeux andeux Jan 7,2021 2:36 pm || Up

            and Steve Largent and (going back a little farther) Jack Kemp.

            TINSTAAFK
            • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 7,2021 2:46 pm || Up

              Jeez, forgot about Largent. They had hall of famers in multiple sports!

              • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 7,2021 3:02 pm || Up

                Per your comment earlier about more and more extremists winning House seats I gotta think Aubrey Huff and Curt Schilling would fit right in.

                I’m ready to vote for Draymond.

                "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
                • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 7,2021 3:06 pm || Up

                  I’ll be shocked if there isn’t a push to recruit Herschel Walker to run against Warnock next year.

                • Soaker Soaker Jan 7,2021 4:07 pm || Up

                  I didn’t realize that about Herschel. Looking at the @HerschelWalker Twitter account, ugh.

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          • andeux andeux Jan 18,2021 12:00 pm || Up

            One of the Republicans who voted to impeach was a former NFL receiver, Anthony Gonzalez (not the Cal one).

            TINSTAAFK
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 21,2021 4:53 pm || Up
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 21,2021 6:14 pm || Up

        I gotta go vote, hold my gun.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 21,2021 7:14 pm || Up

          hot take: the two that charged through had bait metal, like a stapler or something on then. Trying to get the police to search them or detain them in some way and Harris legitimately didn’t want to be the guy to be shot in the capitol.

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
  65. elcroata elcroata Jan 6,2021 11:52 pm

    Had a quick nap, how are things?

    Because survival is insufficient
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 7,2021 12:04 am || Up

      House about to vote down objection to Pennsylvania electors. Then House and Senate will reconvene and rest of tally is not expected to produce more objections. The long awaited declaration of Biden’s win, read by Mike Pence, could be less than an hour away.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • elcroata elcroata Jan 7,2021 12:26 am || Up

        Thanks. Wow, they got so much support in the house

        Because survival is insufficient
        • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 7,2021 12:31 am || Up

          Each House district represents only 700,000 residents on average, and district boundaries are drawn up in a hyper-partisan process. So extremists are far more common than Senators, who at least have to act like they care about all kinds of voters.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • elcroata elcroata Jan 7,2021 12:34 am || Up

            Very true. But still, after all that happened… I mean 100+ x 700,000…

            Because survival is insufficient
            • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 7,2021 7:18 am || Up

              We have a lot of large pockets of seriously deluded and resentful white folks across this land, who want their representatives to be avatars of their rage and ignorance. Anti-Obama backlash, Trump, and crap like Qanon have made that long-standing problem considerably worse in ways that I don’t know if most people truly recognize.

            • colin colin Jan 7,2021 8:15 am || Up

              100 x 700,000 is roughly the same number of people who voted to re-elect Trump back in November.

          • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 7,2021 7:13 am || Up

            Getting more common, and more extreme, each cycle, too. This last election ushered in a handful of truly scary members, and their youth suggests more to come.

  66. AV AV Jan 7,2021 12:34 am

    i hope Ds have an objection to WY just to punk the MFs.

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  67. elcroata elcroata Jan 7,2021 12:35 am

    Fox News in the full it was actually Antifa, but look at the tragic loss of white patriotic life mode

    Because survival is insufficient
    • andeux andeux Jan 7,2021 8:25 am || Up

      It seems like a good way to find out who they actually are would be to arrest the ones who posted pictures of themselves committing multiple felonies on social media.

      TINSTAAFK
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 7,2021 8:46 am || Up

        If the most obvious ones aren’t collared before the inauguration, Judge Garland better ready to clean house at the FBI.

        • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 7,2021 9:53 am || Up

          I think the arrests can’t be made before the 19th

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • AV AV Jan 7,2021 10:06 am || Up

            really? like the dude who broke into pelosi’s and stole her mail and has his face name and crime on pics posted all over? he can’t be held today?

            *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
            • andeux andeux Jan 7,2021 10:07 am || Up

              I think the implication is that if they are charged now Trump could pardon them.

              TINSTAAFK
              • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 7,2021 10:15 am || Up

                Yes, and for the record, he is prima facia guilty of the burglary and identity theft if this were a ca state prosecution. I don’t deal with federal statutes so I am sure there are mail felonies and political based felonies that I don’t know about.

                there is no ongoing “threat” to the speakers office, so there is no rush

                I have $5. No I don\'t.
              • AV AV Jan 7,2021 10:37 am || Up

                ok i see.

                *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
              • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 7,2021 1:01 pm || Up
              • elcroata elcroata Jan 8,2021 6:08 am || Up

                I don’t think he dares anymore or sees it in his interest.

                Federal murder investigation will be opened in Capitol Police officer’s death

                Because survival is insufficient
      • elcroata elcroata Jan 7,2021 8:54 am || Up

        Or giving NYT their full name and location

        Because survival is insufficient
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 7,2021 10:04 am || Up

        This dude wore his work badge to the “revolution.”

      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 7,2021 12:56 pm || Up

  68. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 7,2021 12:38 am

    Not over until Louis Gohmert proclaims his commitment to peaceful protest.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  69. elcroata elcroata Jan 7,2021 12:39 am

    I guess Rudy didn’t find Tuberville’s phone number, after all

    Because survival is insufficient
  70. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 7,2021 12:46 am

    Cool, I can go to sleep now and awake to a brand new day! And/or a new low with 13 scary days left.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • elcroata elcroata Jan 7,2021 1:13 am || Up

      You guys, get a rest. I’ve got this. I’ll have complete information about New Zealand immigration requirements by the time you’re up again.

      Because survival is insufficient
    • Soaker Soaker Jan 7,2021 10:24 am || Up

      I don’t see how January 20 doesn’t make yesterday look like a tea party. I’m only being slightly facetious in suggesting a full national lockdown, as in: leave your own private property, be arrested immediately.

      Support locally made sausage!
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 7,2021 12:11 pm || Up

        Nah, they’ll have coordinated heavy security plans in place for inauguration day. It will not be left to the Capitol and DC cops to arrange.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  71. elcroata elcroata Jan 7,2021 12:51 am

    Is there any word on the arrests?

    Because survival is insufficient
  72. elcroata elcroata Jan 7,2021 2:06 am

    Because survival is insufficient
  73. ptbnl Jan 7,2021 8:57 am

    The RNC winter meeting greets Trump with rapturous applause, even after his goons plant a bomb at their HQ. Truly shameless.

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 7,2021 9:06 am || Up

      Ooh, hoping for some big transactions. Think their GM would move Mitt for a package of, like, Tulsi, Greenwald, and a couple of crypto-fascist “leftist” prospects?

      • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 7,2021 9:54 am || Up

        lol, Megan McCain already tweeted and deleted Hawley/Tulsi 2024

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 7,2021 9:56 am || Up

          Jesus Christ. How does her mother resist throttling her?

          • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 7,2021 10:07 am || Up

            If you scroll down the guy posts a full screen shot with a 1/6/21 8:57 am tag

            I have $5. No I don\'t.

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