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Games 17-19: Road trip! Three more with the Scioscias 352

The A’s now begin a stretch with 18 of the next 23 away from the Coliseum. This 8-game road trip does get broken up with 3 over the weekend in San Francisco, between these games in Anaheim and a couple in Phoenix. I thought we were trying to minimize the travel but whatever.

A win tonight would make this the third-best 17-game start in Oakland history (16-1 in 1981 and 14-3 in 1978). Three other times they have been 12-4 but on each of those occasions they went to 12-5. A 10-game winning streak would be #9 of that length or better; being even more optimistic, 11 games would be #6 and 12 games would be #3.

The Scioscias are scheduled to throw three right-handers.

Tonight at 6:40: Manaea (can we get more than 3 good innings please?) vs. Julio Teheran
Tuesday at 6:40: Fiers vs. Dylan Bundy
Wednesday matinee at 1:10: Bassitt vs. Griffin Canning

What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone

352 thoughts on “Games 17-19: Road trip! Three more with the Scioscias

  1. 5Aces Aug 10,2020 5:04 pm

    Stupid Scioscias make Aces go radio only.

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • AV Aug 10,2020 5:32 pm || Up

      do VPNs work for this kinda thing?

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • 5Aces Aug 10,2020 8:35 pm || Up

          I havent been able to get it to work with MLB. But Im also lazy and not tech savvy.

          Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
          • Future Ed Aug 10,2020 8:38 pm || Up

            I used to use it on an old laptop and cable (s?) it up to a teevee.

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • lenscrafters Aug 10,2020 8:39 pm || Up

            I’ve been using this one, but I’m lucky enough to get it expensed through work. It’s kinda pricey otherwise, and I think there are some cheaper options that should still be fine. This one is incredibly easy to use though.

            • AV Aug 10,2020 9:04 pm || Up

              i went 3-year on nord.

              *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
              • 5Aces Aug 11,2020 12:34 pm || Up

                I actually have a friend who let me use his Nord.

                But now when I try to log in on my home laptop to MLB.TV it does nothing. Tried Firefox and Chrome, cleared cache and cookies, tried incognito mode and so far nothing. I quick look through Reddit suggested so refresh everything youtube video but I need to backup photos and docs before I try that. But thanks to all you FKers for the kick in the pants.

                Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
                • 5Aces Aug 12,2020 7:31 am || Up

                  So spent most of last night’s game doing a “reset” on the old laptop. I still cant log into MLB.TV or even MLB.com. It feels like a simple cookie issue but it isnt. Something works because if I put in the wrong password I get the “pls enter a different password” message. But if I enter the right info it just basically reloads the login page.

                  I may search the net a little today but I would be radio likely anyways today at work so the problem wont bother me again for a week or 2.

                  Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
                • nevermoor Aug 12,2020 11:20 am || Up

                  Does it work in incognito mode?

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • 5Aces Aug 12,2020 12:34 pm || Up

                  No. I even logged out from my work laptop and phone to make sure it wasnt some random “you cant be logged in at multiple spots” issues.

                  Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
                • AV Aug 12,2020 11:24 am || Up

                  disable your extensions for a minute.

                  for me, when the page says something is there (a media player or fill-in form of some kind) but i’m not seeing it, it’s usually because adblock, privacybadger, ublock, etc are working too well.

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • 5Aces Aug 12,2020 12:35 pm || Up

                  That makes sense, though weird it would only do it on the old as dirt laptop. Thanks!

                  Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
                • Soaker Aug 12,2020 12:37 pm || Up

                  I have multiple browsers on each machine. Certain sites just don’t like certain browsers, and maybe your settings therein as AV suggests. A’s Cast is one of them (and that’s an MLB site if you’re not streaming through iHeart); clicking the Play button does nothing in Chrome but it works fine in Firefox. I also keep one browser with minimal security settings and no extensions; this comes in handy when things like tracking cookies are required, e.g. the “Alaska Airlines Mileage Plan Shopping” portal where tracking is required to get credit for frequent flyer miles.

                  What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
                • ptbnl Aug 12,2020 1:11 pm || Up

                  Firefox won’t show me the standings on mlb.com (though it’s fine with video, which has often been problematic).

                  If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
                • andeux Aug 12,2020 1:19 pm || Up

                  That one is probably an ad-blocker issue.
                  Standings work for me in firefox, but I have my ad-blocker off for MLB.com.

                  TINSTAAFK
              • nevermoor Aug 11,2020 1:04 pm || Up

                When I need one I use Windscribe. I’m sure it’s not the best for truly necessary hiding, but the free version is 10 GB/month and unlimited is $2/month. And it’s fast.

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  2. Future Ed Aug 10,2020 5:25 pm

    I really don’t like angels games. I get too invested

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 10,2020 5:28 pm || Up

      No beer in the parking lot makes FSU go crazy.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • AV Aug 10,2020 5:37 pm || Up

        we can sit in the parking lot at anaheim stadium
        drinking beer
        smoking pot
        snorting coke
        and then driiiiiive, drive over 55.
        it’s a sammy hagar weekend!

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • Future Ed Aug 10,2020 5:56 pm || Up

          I used to drive over the 55 all the time. There are a lot of bridges over freeways in Orange county.

          I think driving over the 57 is more convenient in Anaheim, though

          Also I was thinking just yesterday eagerly awaiting my mom in the Big A parking lot. She had dropped my brother and I off and I wanted to get home to catch the “ON TV” special that featured live concert footage of the Police and the GoGos

          We made it home on time

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • AV Aug 10,2020 6:09 pm || Up

            on those freeways, you’re lucky if you can drive double digits mph.

            my big A parking lot memories are all about cooking breakfast in a bag at the boy scout fair.

            *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  3. mikeA Aug 10,2020 5:46 pm

    This winning streak coincided exactly with my vacation (the A’s lost the last game I watched), so the omens for tonight seem bad.

  4. Glorious Mundy Aug 10,2020 5:48 pm

    Gonna be thinking of Vince eating his sad lonely cheese pizza during the call tonight.

    • Jennifer Aug 10,2020 7:28 pm || Up

      What are those sausages they sell at the stadium? Those were good.

    • Soaker Aug 10,2020 9:56 pm || Up

      Doordash should be showing up with some Whoppers from the Hegenberger Burger King about now.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  5. andeux Aug 10,2020 6:09 pm

    Go Giants.

    TINSTAAFK
    • lenscrafters Aug 10,2020 7:19 pm || Up

      The one fking time I’m remotely interested in them being successful…

    • andeux Aug 10,2020 7:22 pm || Up

      Useless.

      TINSTAAFK
  6. FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 10,2020 6:15 pm

    I lack Soaker’s deep mlb google skills, but I have to think that a coach not making obscene slurs and instigating violence on the field is an actually written rule.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Future Ed Aug 10,2020 6:18 pm || Up

      as would be leaving the dugout?

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Soaker Aug 10,2020 7:02 pm || Up

      This looks like a good game for researching rules instead of watching. It’s not Googling, it’s flipping through the rule book.

      6.04 Unsportsmanlike Conduct
      (a) No manager, player, substitute, coach, trainer or batboy shall at any time, whether from the bench, the coach’s box or on the playing field, or elsewhere:

      (2) Use language which will in any manner refer to or reflect upon opposing players, an umpire, or any spectator

      That one is of course bent routinely, especially in reference to umpires.

      As to Ed’s question:

      5.10 Substitutions and Pitching Changes (Including Visits to the Mound)
      (k) Players and substitutes of both teams shall confine themselves to their team’s benches unless actually participating in the play or preparing to enter the game, or coaching at first or third base. No one except players, substitutes, managers, coaches, trainers and bat boys shall occupy a bench during a game.
      PENALTY: For violation the umpire may, after warning, remove the offender from the field.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  7. FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 10,2020 6:54 pm

    Hosed down by Piscotty!

    Also, TOOTBLAN ahead of a Trout AB, ouch.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  8. andeux Aug 10,2020 6:57 pm

    (can we get more than 3 good innings please?)

    No.

    TINSTAAFK
    • Soaker Aug 10,2020 7:35 pm || Up

      The bullpen is out there, Sean, and you’re about to become very familiar with it.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  9. FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 10,2020 6:58 pm

    Argh. Manaea was actually looking ok until that center cut pitch to Rendon.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 10,2020 7:00 pm || Up

      And now you can actually see the wheels coming off.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  10. Future Ed Aug 10,2020 6:58 pm

    This isn’t going well

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  11. andeux Aug 10,2020 7:01 pm

    Thanks Albert.

    TINSTAAFK
  12. Glorious Mundy Aug 10,2020 7:05 pm

    Stop fking hitting our guys!!

  13. Future Ed Aug 10,2020 7:05 pm

    Just score 15

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 10,2020 7:11 pm || Up

      They just might there are a lot of sweet swings goin in the lineup right now

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  14. Future Ed Aug 10,2020 7:14 pm

    Ken just described the rundown as a pickle as it was happening like a pro

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  15. FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 10,2020 7:20 pm

    Anaheim has the crowd noise perfect (oddly, as their actual crowds are awful). The key is a baseline buzz set at 1-3 or so, depending on situation, then modulated up to 4-5 in real time, then ratcheting up or down. The Coliseum doesn’t do the baseline well at all, then has only a handful of settings from there.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Soaker Aug 10,2020 7:32 pm || Up

      There aren’t any cutouts there, either. I’m neither here nor there on those but fully agree with you on the sound. The Coliseum is especially bad when the operator’s reaction isn’t in sync with the play.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  16. Glorious Mundy Aug 10,2020 7:22 pm

    Jesus Christ, Angels, speed it up!

  17. andeux Aug 10,2020 7:30 pm

    8 players still below Mendoza in this game.

    TINSTAAFK
  18. Glorious Mundy Aug 10,2020 7:32 pm

    Fletcher is going to be the end of me.

  19. Glorious Mundy Aug 10,2020 7:33 pm

    Korach pauses during Burch Smith like he did during Seth Smith.

  20. Future Ed Aug 10,2020 7:40 pm

    Scioscia is gonna be pissed about this sloppy catcher play

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  21. Future Ed Aug 10,2020 7:41 pm

    Thank you Scioscia for batting trout 2rd, btw

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  22. Future Ed Aug 10,2020 7:42 pm

    Well then

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  23. FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 10,2020 7:45 pm

    I’m liking this crush the snot out of everything Chapman.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  24. lenscrafters Aug 10,2020 8:01 pm

    Starting my “Burch Smith for the rotation” campaign

    • Glorious Mundy Aug 11,2020 9:33 am || Up

      I’ll take one lawn sign and one bumper sticker please.

  25. FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 10,2020 8:16 pm

    Nice K by Wendelken. Sometimes you have to throw a fucking strike.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  26. lenscrafters Aug 10,2020 8:24 pm

    This game is gonna take longer than Friday’s.

    • Soaker Aug 10,2020 8:30 pm || Up

      Question is whether Ed’s request that they “just score 15” will be enough.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • Soaker Aug 10,2020 8:56 pm || Up

        What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
        • Future Ed Aug 10,2020 8:59 pm || Up

          score five more and limit trout to two more home runs and maybe.

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
  27. Soaker Aug 10,2020 8:29 pm

    That was a case where since there’s only one telecast with probably six cameras, it’s tough to get enough angles. Seemed safe to me but usually New York would have at least one more camera view on that play.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • Future Ed Aug 10,2020 8:34 pm || Up

      That’s a problem I think.

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • andeux Aug 10,2020 8:38 pm || Up

        I’m fine with calls standing if they are close enough.
        It would be better if they just didn’t review a lot of these calls at all, but the teams have less information as well, so we’re seeing challenges on a lot of plays that are inconclusive or even ones that were clearly correct.

        TINSTAAFK
        • Future Ed Aug 10,2020 8:43 pm || Up

          I guess my position is pretending 2020 isn’t a thing.

          Yes, agree

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Soaker Aug 10,2020 9:41 pm || Up

      I’ve been keeping track and they’re actually using eight cameras: High home (main live play cam), low home, high first, low first, high third, low third, main CF camera (pitch cam) and a low CF they mainly use for close-ups. There’s also a fixed all-nine cam that the announcers in Oakland use for fielder positioning but that would almost never be useful for replays.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  28. lenscrafters Aug 10,2020 8:30 pm

    Have a night, Man Chap.

  29. Glorious Mundy Aug 10,2020 8:30 pm

    Chapman holy crap what a four innings.

  30. Glorious Mundy Aug 10,2020 8:33 pm

    God this Angels team is garbage.

    • Soaker Aug 10,2020 8:35 pm || Up

      Charitable scoring of a sacrifice fly benefits Canha on that one.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • Future Ed Aug 10,2020 8:39 pm || Up

        upton is not throwing matt out. he is pretty bad at everything but dingers

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • andeux Aug 10,2020 8:35 pm || Up

      Only one more year of Pujols, but two of Upton.

      TINSTAAFK
      • Future Ed Aug 10,2020 8:39 pm || Up

        And adel aint gonna DH anytime soon

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • andeux Aug 10,2020 8:44 pm || Up

          I’ve just seen that one play. Is he always that bad at fielding?

          TINSTAAFK
          • Future Ed Aug 10,2020 8:47 pm || Up

            Eric Longenhagen was on effectively wild friday and indicated he wasn’t good in the outfield. that was before the play in Texas

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
  31. Future Ed Aug 10,2020 8:34 pm

    Its the prop plane noise in the background from anaheim or oakland?

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  32. Glorious Mundy Aug 10,2020 8:43 pm

    Two hours to get to the bottom of the fourth.

  33. Future Ed Aug 10,2020 8:47 pm

    outs please

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  34. lenscrafters Aug 10,2020 8:52 pm

    We’re getting into Mengden and Trivino territory which is questioning my assumption that our bullpen can outperform theirs.

    • andeux Aug 10,2020 8:54 pm || Up

      Only getting two outs from Wendelken means you pretty much have to use Mengden for multiple innings and hope for the best.

      TINSTAAFK
  35. Glorious Mundy Aug 10,2020 8:53 pm

    The fifth inning never comes.

  36. Future Ed Aug 10,2020 9:03 pm

    Can we just skip murphy?

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  37. Future Ed Aug 10,2020 9:23 pm

    dammit

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  38. 5Aces Aug 10,2020 9:25 pm

    I believe the league has gone out of its way to limit time at the park. Why dont we just end this one right now?

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  39. lenscrafters Aug 10,2020 9:30 pm

    Trivino against the heart of the order should be interesting.

    • Soaker Aug 10,2020 9:36 pm || Up

      Nice euphemism there.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • lenscrafters Aug 10,2020 9:47 pm || Up

        They’ll probably need fresh arms after tonight so come on down to SJ, Lou.

        • Soaker Aug 10,2020 9:49 pm || Up

          Blackburn is on the taxi squad. Great. (Along with Kaprelian.)

          What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
          • FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 10,2020 9:51 pm || Up

            We need to save a couple guys to get suspended for hitting Astros next time we see em.

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  40. Future Ed Aug 10,2020 9:31 pm

    I would rather trout homer than rendon

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  41. FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 10,2020 9:38 pm

    Oh Lou, you flew too close to the sun on wings of ribeye.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  42. Future Ed Aug 10,2020 9:50 pm

    The way this game started, I would be happy to be tied in the 7th.

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 10,2020 10:00 pm || Up

      I look forward to seeing our “we have the lead” bullpen guys in the 8th.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Future Ed Aug 10,2020 10:03 pm || Up

        Petit. I don’t know. This is the danger part of the order. Can’t always go back to this well

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • Soaker Aug 10,2020 10:08 pm || Up

          Gotta throw that one in the dirt, Yusmeiro.

          What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
        • FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 10,2020 10:09 pm || Up

          Yes better to win this game in just nine innings.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  43. Future Ed Aug 10,2020 10:14 pm

    Uhg, scioscia sciosciaing

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  44. lenscrafters Aug 10,2020 10:22 pm

    It’s disappointing to blow a 9-4 lead but the real problem is that Manaea simply has not put his team in a decent position in any of his starts this year.

    • Future Ed Aug 10,2020 10:48 pm || Up

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  45. Soaker Aug 10,2020 10:22 pm

    Manaea keeps putting them in holes that are too tough to dig out of. 1-3 in his starts, 11-2 behind anybody else.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • nevermoor Aug 11,2020 9:48 am || Up

      He just wants to make finding a spot for Puk easy.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  46. FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 10,2020 10:22 pm

    Oh man Piscotty got a dream pitch and didn’t get it all.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  47. Future Ed Aug 10,2020 10:34 pm

    I think the problem today was the Angels never quit.

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • nevermoor Aug 11,2020 9:49 am || Up

      I just hope Trout got it all out of his system. But Chappie didn’t.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  48. 5Aces Aug 11,2020 7:06 am

    At least Mengden will eat innings. Sean cant pitch poor AND only get through 2-3 innings. Not in this season.

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  49. FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 11,2020 10:20 am

    Playoff hockey starts today! Here’s hoping for lots of sudden death OTs and Game 7s. The Sharks of course are nowhere near this party, so I’m rooting for Vancouver in the Western Conference bubble and whoever emerges from the Philly-Montreal series in the East.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 11,2020 12:27 pm || Up

      As always, I’m surprised by hockey existing.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 11,2020 4:46 pm || Up

      A 3 OT (and counting) game is a nice way to start.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 11,2020 5:52 pm || Up

        Intermission right now, Columbus and Tampa heading into OT #5!

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • Soaker Aug 11,2020 5:55 pm || Up

          Manfred could solve this. Need to have one team play 5-on-3 for 5 minutes, then the other team gets its 5-on-3 chance.

          What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
          • andeux Aug 11,2020 5:57 pm || Up

            I had been wondering, are they keeping the new extra innings rule for the postseason?

            TINSTAAFK
            • Soaker Aug 11,2020 6:01 pm || Up

              At this time, no, but the rules do change from week to week.

              What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
          • FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 11,2020 5:57 pm || Up

            And the extra periods are only 14 minutes long.

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • Glorious Mundy Aug 11,2020 6:09 pm || Up

            Multipuck

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 22,2020 8:49 am || Up

      Vancouver prevails over the evil St. Louis Blues and now faces the eviler Vegas Golden Knights in round two. The Philadelphia Flyers dispatched Montreal fairly easily and now advance to face the New York Islanders in a series where honestly the evil feels about even. Call it an evil push.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 4,2020 6:41 pm || Up

        Vancouver and Philly both get Game 7s! Canucks today, Flyers tomorrow. The Vancouver series has been especially fun to watch, they’re down to their backup goalie, a rookie, from San Diego of all places, and he has totally stonewalled Vegas despite facing twice as many shots.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 5,2020 7:03 pm || Up

          Defeat for both. The NHL Final Four is an unlikable bunch.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  50. AV Aug 11,2020 11:04 am

    IMHO, the zipper pocket is much too high.

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  51. lenscrafters Aug 11,2020 11:37 am

    I think this is reasonable given everything

    • Glorious Mundy Aug 11,2020 11:44 am || Up

      Classic Nightengale

      • Future Ed Aug 11,2020 11:47 am || Up

        Although It would be, not reasonable, but understandable and defensible and ultimately acceptable.

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • Future Ed Aug 11,2020 11:51 am || Up

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • Glorious Mundy Aug 11,2020 11:53 am || Up

          It’s really remarkable how often Nightengale confidently reports a scoop on Twitter that turns out to be wrong.

        • nevermoor Aug 11,2020 12:05 pm || Up

          I was hoping for 5. Can’t say 6 is some egregious difference.

          Cintron should have gotten the season, but 20 is a LOT better than I was expecting.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • Future Ed Aug 11,2020 12:14 pm || Up

            I would love to argue around the edges of a 6 game suspension in a 60 game season (is that a 16 game suspension? I am not good at math), but ultimately I don’t know if there is a benefit to that. What is up with Kelly’s appeal?

            Cintron is better than expected, but still, he seems to be a problem employee

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • lenscrafters Aug 11,2020 11:54 am || Up

        Damnit, I’d forgotten how shitty of a reporter Nightengale is.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 11,2020 11:52 am || Up

      I agree, five games for Ramon feels about as light a sentence as you could expect.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • andeux Aug 11,2020 12:01 pm || Up

        Yeah. Five (or the actual six) are on the low end of what I was expecting.
        Still boggles the mind that Cintron was not ejected by the umps. Do most umps speak/understand Spanish?

        TINSTAAFK
      • nevermoor Aug 11,2020 12:05 pm || Up

        The real question is whether he should serve it now or appeal.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • andeux Aug 11,2020 12:11 pm || Up

          As someone else said earlier, now is a pretty good time: Giants and Dbacks are the two bottom teams in the NL-W and Angels are the bottom team in the AL-W, so these are arguably the games we are most likely to win even without Ramon, plus the consequences for losing them are less than if playing someone like Houston. Also, the rest of the team seems to be healthy. The only reason not to serve it now is if you think there is a real chance of getting it reduced.

          TINSTAAFK
          • 5Aces Aug 11,2020 12:37 pm || Up

            Also how quick can you get the appeal in. If I can appeal today and get it heard tomorrow it is worth the risk. But if it takes 7-10 days and you start risking games against better teams I would suck it up.

            Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
            • nevermoor Aug 11,2020 1:05 pm || Up

              Kelly’s appeal is still pending, right?

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
              • Future Ed Aug 11,2020 1:07 pm || Up

                As is ramon’s now

                I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • 5Aces Aug 11,2020 1:11 pm || Up

                  SuSlu just made it click. One of the tiebreakers is division record so missing the NL games is better if things are anywhere near equal.

                  Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
                • nevermoor Aug 11,2020 1:19 pm || Up

                  Makes sense. I wonder if he does drop the appeal for the interleague stuff.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  52. nevermoor Aug 11,2020 1:35 pm

    Harris for VP confirmed.

    My support for the Biden ticket is reduced by this selection, as I think lowly of her. I am now only 100% certain to vote for him, down from 100%.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • Future Ed Aug 11,2020 1:39 pm || Up

      Same. Although I am going to push for Lorena Gonzalez as her replacement if elected.

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 11,2020 1:45 pm || Up

        Not Matt?

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Future Ed Aug 11,2020 4:25 pm || Up

        Welp, that was short lived

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Glorious Mundy Aug 11,2020 1:45 pm || Up

      I think she was the right pick, and I’m very glad he didn’t overthink it. I’m also excited to finally have not only a California Democrat, but a Bay Area Democrat, on a presidential ticket. The time had come for that.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 11,2020 1:48 pm || Up

      I’m actually excited about this pick, I think Harris is a bit riskier than Bass or RIce would have been, but that’s because she’s a much stronger politician than either of those, and we’ll need that skill in the years to come.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Glorious Mundy Aug 11,2020 1:51 pm || Up

        Riskier how?

        • FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 11,2020 2:03 pm || Up

          Generally because she has a more prominent record for opposition to mine, and specifically the Willie Brown connections.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • Glorious Mundy Aug 11,2020 2:07 pm || Up

            I’d rather take my chances with someone who has run and won multiple statewide campaigns and gone through at least the initial phase of a presidential run than a non-politician or a congressperson from a safe district. Obviously the scrutiny on her record will be higher now, but I trust Biden’s vetting team.

        • AV Aug 11,2020 2:34 pm || Up

          through twitter takes.

          what? isn’t that how elections work?

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • nevermoor Aug 11,2020 1:51 pm || Up

        I think it checks the do-no-electoral-harm requirement in that CA is not going to elect a GOP senator to fill her seat. I also think picking a woman (and woman of color) is admirable. It also doesn’t hurt my vote.

        I just think Harris is not an impressive person. And to the extent we are anointing our next presidential candidate I wish it weren’t her.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • Future Ed Aug 11,2020 2:02 pm || Up

          I have personal reservations about her, I am privy to some gross violations during her time as AG and am a public defender who had to tell parents that it is a possibility that they will go to jail because their child, who they can’t control, isn’t going to school. I also defended people in her reign that went to prison for (admittedly repeatedly) selling small quantities of drugs to support their addiction.

          That being said, she has said much better things as senator and on the trail, notwithstanding her terrible instincts for campaigning (like having the same busing position as biden and attacking him for it, or joking about marijuana and actually having prosecuted it and took no or against stances on legalizing).

          I am as unenthusiastic as I could be, but resigned to never having good things.

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • nevermoor Aug 11,2020 2:11 pm || Up

            Her inability to manage a campaign staff certainly is not indicative of her ability to manage an executive branch.

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
            • Future Ed Aug 11,2020 2:23 pm || Up

              Say we get a 2010 type recovery (much harder now with the pandemic) and no major issues to rally the tea party or boogaloo’s her 2024 campaign is already on thin ice, If there isn’t an economic recovery and/or vaccine AND there is some dumb bengazi/ACA/bengazi issue energizing whatever the republicans are in 4 years, she is going to be in trouble if she repeats her 2020 campaign.

              I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • mikeA Aug 11,2020 2:43 pm || Up

          Agree with that. I think it is fine for purposes of winning this election, but I hate it from the perspective of her being a potential front-runner in 2024/28. I am not impressed by her on any level, and I think pretty much any of the other choices being floated would have made a better president. I think she is completely unprincipled and is not even a good politician. I voted for Loretta Sanchez…

          • Future Ed Aug 11,2020 2:49 pm || Up

            She got the AG’s office to investigate Snachez supporters on suuuuuper flimsy grounds, and when SLF* pointed it out, SLF was taken off the assignment and it was transferred to the LA office.

            *I don’t know if MikeA knows SLF is “special lady friend”

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
            • mikeA Aug 11,2020 2:53 pm || Up

              I remember being annoyed at shady stuff she was doing when she was AG, but I don’t really remember what any of it was anymore.

              • mikeA Aug 11,2020 2:55 pm || Up

                I vaguely recall working on something where she had some shady dealings with the Santa Clara County DA Rosen, who also seems shady.

                • Future Ed Aug 11,2020 3:00 pm || Up

                  this stuff is not public, My opinion is its par for the course with everyone at a national level to do shady. Sure there are some good eggs, but not a lot.

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • mikeA Aug 11,2020 3:02 pm || Up

                  Yeah, fair enough.

            • nevermoor Aug 11,2020 3:11 pm || Up

              She was also a shitty DA. She’s always been someone with no interest in doing the job in front of her well, and only an interest in the next step.

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
              • FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 11,2020 3:31 pm || Up

                With politicians in particular, familiarity breeds contempt. It was a lot easier to love Ron Dellums when I was a DC activist than it was when I was an Oakland employee.

                "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
                • nevermoor Aug 11,2020 3:58 pm || Up

                  It’s a fair point, but her weaknesses haven’t exactly abated. Her primary campaign was a Hillary-esque cluster of mismanagement.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
              • Future Ed Aug 11,2020 3:36 pm || Up

                I like how she is taking credit starting a program for youth as DA when in actuality an existing program was renamed

                (SOmething that happens with regularity as funding comes and goes)

                I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • nevermoor Aug 11,2020 3:09 pm || Up

            My problem is that Warren is by far the most impressive person, and would be the best at actually being president. That said, she proved to be less good at campaigning than I hoped, and I hate creating a MA senate vacancy.

            And she’ll be way too old in 4 or 8 years.

            I don’t know who I’d want to elect in 4 or 8 years, but it damn sure isn’t Harris, and I could imagine a world in which someone like Rice was impressive enough to become that person. Either way, assuming he wins, Biden needs to do MUCH better than Obama at building a democratic bench.

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
            • Future Ed Aug 11,2020 3:24 pm || Up

              Warren was obviously the best pick and telegraphed in 2016. You are right, I see noone for 2024

              Inslee? But really its gonna be harris.

              I have $5. No I don\'t.
              • nevermoor Aug 11,2020 3:27 pm || Up

                I don’t see it being Inslee. I could see it being someone like Duckworth, Mayor Pete or (at least pre-primary) Beto. The latter two would need serious experience-gaining positions in a Biden admin though.

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
            • Glorious Mundy Aug 11,2020 6:15 pm || Up

              I don’t understand what you mean by impressive.

              • nevermoor Aug 12,2020 11:21 am || Up

                I mean capable of doing the actual job of presidenting.

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • andeux Aug 11,2020 1:49 pm || Up

      I am similarly meh on this ticket, but it was the obvious choice.
      I would love Liz Warren, but she is not young, nor* a POC. Plus I think there is some question about getting a Dem replacement in MA.
      Also like Julian Castro, but he is not a woman.
      Abrams and Demings don’t have the national profile.
      On the plus side, she is a good speaker/debater, is a Bay Area person, and is not Joe Lieberman.

      TINSTAAFK
    • doctorK Aug 11,2020 2:48 pm || Up

      meh

      While I would’ve said this for just about anybody he picked, I would’ve preferred Susan Rice. Of course, a bag of shaved pubic hairs would still be a better VP than what we have now.

      I’m hoping for an epic beatdown this fall by the D’s, just to force the GOP to face the fact that the tea-bagger/QAnon/anti-abortion route is not going to work anymore, and they need to come up with effective, attractive policies and people to recapture those of us in the middle.

      • Future Ed Aug 11,2020 2:50 pm || Up

        Did you see I dr. K’d twice last night? first of the season

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • AV Aug 11,2020 2:52 pm || Up

          get a room you two!

          but hang out in the one next to it.

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 11,2020 2:51 pm || Up

        A more elegant way to reference the incumbent is Vice President Huruhuru.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • doctorK Aug 11,2020 3:15 pm || Up

          I’d drink that!

        • sslinger Aug 11,2020 3:55 pm || Up

          All I can think of now is the Curb Your Enthusiasm episode with the pubic hair and the nativity scene.

      • vignette17 Aug 11,2020 4:33 pm || Up

        But is it not working? Trump still has like 90% approval among Rs.

        • doctorK Aug 11,2020 4:57 pm || Up

          The GOP needs to lose bad – I mean, like worse than Barry Goldwater 1964 bad – this year, or they run the risk of becoming a fringe party (they already are to some extent, given the slavish devotion to The Donald). There needs to be a viable opposition (this is true whoever is in charge) to prevent one side or the other going off the rails.

          Sigh. I like Ike.

  53. batgirl Aug 11,2020 2:10 pm

    I really wanted Abrams or Warren, but I’m relieved it’s a woman of color. I was fearing that he was going to pick Whitmer.

  54. 5Aces Aug 11,2020 3:45 pm

    With all the FK activity today I would have thought we traded Chappy for a pouch of Big League Chew. We havent even got to 1st pitch yet.

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • nevermoor Aug 11,2020 3:58 pm || Up

      You didn’t hear about that? His failure to hit a 3rd HR yesterday made him expendable.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • ptbnl Aug 11,2020 4:04 pm || Up

        But also dropped his price from a dozen ketchup dispensers.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  55. andeux Aug 11,2020 4:02 pm

    Pretty cool to watch MLB being played in Buffalo, but now I really want a Sahlen’s hot dog (from Ted’s).

    TINSTAAFK
    • Future Ed Aug 11,2020 4:14 pm || Up

      This is weird

      that is interfere, yeah?

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • andeux Aug 11,2020 4:18 pm || Up

        Yeah. I have no idea how they called him out. I thought the rule is he gets 3rd automatically.
        It’s like the Tejada play, but worse. (On that one, he got 3rd automatically, and would have gotten the benefit of doubt at home if he had tried to score, but forgot to try.)

        TINSTAAFK
        • vignette17 Aug 11,2020 4:30 pm || Up

          I’m still mad at that call. Why not have someone just tackle the runner? He didn’t try for home, so he only gets 3b. Bullshit.

      • andeux Aug 11,2020 4:19 pm || Up

        OK, they are saying in this case 2nd (the base he is already on) is the base he gets for free, and 3rd at his own risk (like Tejada). I still think the call was wrong though.

        TINSTAAFK
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 11,2020 4:19 pm || Up

        Weird rule, assuming explaination just now was correct. Umps rules runner had been interfered with, but still advances only at his own risk.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • andeux Aug 11,2020 4:23 pm || Up

        The Blue Jays seem to be similar to Buffalo’s other pro sports teams.

        TINSTAAFK
        • 5Aces Aug 11,2020 4:56 pm || Up

          Are they hitting everything wide right?

          Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
          • andeux Aug 11,2020 4:59 pm || Up

            They are mediocre in general, and in the first three innings they made an error, and had a bad call go against them.

            TINSTAAFK
    • Soaker Aug 11,2020 5:19 pm || Up

      When I went to that ballpark I knew enough to hit the Beef on Weck stand. No recollection of it; the ballpark was new (1990?) and it was a stop between Cooperstown and A’s @ Cleveland.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • Future Ed Aug 12,2020 7:06 pm || Up

      judos to MLB advanced media for the gameday background with the highway signs

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  56. andeux Aug 11,2020 6:42 pm

    FKwiz:
    Who has the highest OPS on the team coming into tonight’s game?

    TINSTAAFK
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 11,2020 6:44 pm || Up

      Grossman?

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • andeux Aug 11,2020 6:49 pm || Up

        Correct:
        Grossman .941
        Chapman .939
        Laureano .897

        TINSTAAFK
        • FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 11,2020 7:06 pm || Up

          Bundy wisely pitched around our best hitter.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • andeux Aug 11,2020 7:39 pm || Up

            Superstar.

            TINSTAAFK
            • Soaker Aug 11,2020 7:45 pm || Up

              A 60-game season gives him a chance to get something like “MVP-16” on his Baseball Reference page forever.

              What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  57. sslinger Aug 11,2020 6:49 pm

    As many reservations as I have about Harris, seeing Barbara Lee overjoyed on the air with Rachel Maddow did make me feel a little more enthused.

  58. FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 11,2020 6:51 pm

    Has LaStella been cupping?

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  59. andeux Aug 11,2020 6:51 pm

    Five or so decent innings from Fiers would be a big help tonight.

    TINSTAAFK
  60. FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 11,2020 6:58 pm

    Man Fiers was not going to throw Ohtani a fastball strike.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  61. Soaker Aug 11,2020 6:58 pm

    Fiers has the wildest swings of facial hair, not just of any pitcher, but of any human being of my acquaintance.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 11,2020 7:32 pm || Up

      I am currently sporting my first mustache since bad-teen-mustache circa 1983.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Soaker Aug 11,2020 7:48 pm || Up

        My Dad has a family photo in his home computer workstation area which happened to be taken in the month when I tried that. I just cringe.

        What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  62. mikeA Aug 11,2020 7:22 pm

    All of Bundy’s pitches look bad to me, yet he is striking everyone out.

    • lenscrafters Aug 11,2020 7:39 pm || Up

      His repertoire kinda reminds me of Ervin Santana’s who was basically unhittable against the A’s.

  63. 5Aces Aug 11,2020 7:38 pm

    Vince with the momentary Bauncast turned a Chapman double into a flyout.

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • Soaker Aug 11,2020 7:57 pm || Up

      I’m listening to Terry Smith and Mark Langston, as I did last night. I tuned in A’s Cast after last night’s game and heard a Vince call on a home run, I think one of Chapman’s, that was just a disaster. It’s not the usual Vince-bashing, I just don’t think radio broadcasters can do an acceptable job calling off monitor so I plan on almost always using announcers who are at the park.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  64. Jennifer Aug 11,2020 7:45 pm

    This was blacked out on MLB Network on my TV, but I can watch it on my DirecTV app on the same channel. Odd.

  65. lenscrafters Aug 11,2020 7:53 pm

    Fiers is pitching like a guy who knows he’s lost his already fringy out pitch and probably isn’t long for the majors if all he can throw is 88 mph fastballs in 2 strike counts.

  66. 5Aces Aug 11,2020 7:55 pm

    So the hound, Frankie, Jesus, Mengden, ih.. is Joe Blanton a FA? Maybe Bartolo?

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • lenscrafters Aug 11,2020 8:04 pm || Up

      *Passes out ‘Burch Smith 4 the Rotation’ flyer*

      • 5Aces Aug 12,2020 7:28 am || Up

        I’m ready to attend a coffee klatch and hear more.

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
        • Glorious Mundy Aug 16,2020 10:24 am || Up

          The Join Burch Society

          (I hate that I didn’t think of this before he broke.)

  67. andeux Aug 11,2020 7:57 pm

    My cable went out.
    Logged into the NBC site on my computer just in time to see … that.
    Blech.

    TINSTAAFK
  68. FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 11,2020 7:59 pm

    Argh, missed the target by eight inches with a nothing slider, so long.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  69. FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 11,2020 8:00 pm

    Homer, single, single, homer, bad pitch lucky flyout, homer…

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  70. Future Ed Aug 11,2020 8:01 pm

    what’s up with puk?

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • 5Aces Aug 12,2020 7:32 am || Up

      I think I saw this week he is doing the Rich Harden memorial flat ground throwing but isnt even on the mound yet.

      I would assume at this point we get him back for the bullpen, maybe.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  71. Soaker Aug 11,2020 8:17 pm

    Bundy is a rough surname. Al and Peg. Ted. Here in Nevada, Cliven, his son Ammon and family. Dylan has had a lot to overcome.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  72. Future Ed Aug 11,2020 8:35 pm

    runs were fun. At least there are no orange county bastards in the stands to enjoy this

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  73. Future Ed Aug 11,2020 8:38 pm

    I am glad I was washing dishes. otherwise I would have typed “keeping fletcher o fer means you win right?”

    what a cheapie and the double to lead off yesterday

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Soaker Aug 11,2020 8:40 pm || Up

      The A’s are costing Moreno a fair amount on Fletcher’s 2021 salary.

      Edit: Correction, actually not, I thought he had more service time.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • Future Ed Aug 11,2020 8:45 pm || Up

        hopefully it carries over and he has to raise beer prices

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • Soaker Aug 11,2020 8:49 pm || Up

          Just not parking, please. They are still at $10 which I think is the lowest for any on-site lot in MLB and maybe in any major league sport.

          What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  74. Future Ed Aug 11,2020 8:53 pm

    Davis cannot drive the ball. surely the A’s have noticed?

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  75. Soaker Aug 11,2020 9:38 pm

    A shitty dreary game in a dark empty stadium, sort of fulfilling my worst fears about this baseball season. “Dismal” is generous for that one.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  76. Future Ed Aug 11,2020 9:40 pm

    Davis:
    1) do not play him
    2) if you must: green light 0-1, 1-1, 2-1, or 0-2. 3-1 situational. red light all other counts

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  77. lenscrafters Aug 11,2020 10:04 pm

    Lol somehow the Astros blew a 6-2 lead to the Giants late. And then our favorite extra innings punching bag Cy Sneed gave up the winning run in the 10th.

    • nevermoor Aug 12,2020 11:25 am || Up

      But how many HBPs?

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  78. Glorious Mundy Aug 12,2020 7:01 am

    Nate Silver’s presidential forecast now uses an “uncertainty” index with factors including “the volume of major news, as measured by the number of full-width New York Times headlines in the past 500 days.”

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 12,2020 8:37 am || Up

      That’s quite a write-up. And obviously Nate and Co. are experts at their craft. But this part about “National Drift,” how much the overall national forecast could change between now and Election Day, feels awfully speculative.

      National drift is calculated as follows:

      Constant x (Days Until Election)^1/3 x Uncertainty Index

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • ptbnl Aug 12,2020 9:17 am || Up

        Including a factor for how easy/hard it is to vote in a state is interesting, though the COVI acronym (cost of voting index) is unfortunate. It also needs to be much more fine-grained that just at the state level, since the voter-suppressing states clearly do that in a deliberate, targeted way.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • AV Aug 12,2020 11:27 am || Up

      i’m riding whatever allan lichtman is driving this time.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • Glorious Mundy Aug 13,2020 8:35 am || Up

      Methodology aside, the visuals on the forecast are pretty wild.

      Also, the examples of potential maps spit out by the forecast include one where Biden wins South Dakota, Alaska, Missouri, Mississippi, Kansas, Arkansas, Texas, and Georgia but loses Arizona.

      • nevermoor Aug 13,2020 9:09 am || Up

        Clippy, it turns out, was just ahead of its time.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • AV Aug 13,2020 10:29 am || Up

          it’s really spot on usage here.

          GuYs WhEn We sAy NiNeTy-nInE pErCeNt ChAnCe oF wHaT YoU wAnT dOn’T fOrGeT tHaT sTiLl MeAnS oNe PeRcEnT oF tHe OtHeR tHiNg!!!

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • Glorious Mundy Aug 14,2020 12:40 pm || Up

      Maybe we should worry up until the point that the Times runs a full-width headline on it, and then stop worrying?

      • AV Aug 14,2020 12:49 pm || Up

        can the NYT cure evolutionary error management?

        NOISES IN BUSH, NOT A TIGER

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • Glorious Mundy Aug 14,2020 12:59 pm || Up

        Sabotaging an essential institution in American life in hopes of stealing an election: overrated, underrated, or properly rated?

        • AV Aug 14,2020 1:46 pm || Up

          maybe it’s… fred rated.

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
          • Future Ed Aug 14,2020 1:55 pm || Up

            the stereo people?

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
            • AV Aug 14,2020 2:37 pm || Up

              are there any other fred rated?

              *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
              • Future Ed Aug 14,2020 4:37 pm || Up

                Do they know more?

                I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • 5Aces Aug 14,2020 4:47 pm || Up

                  Are you playing the question game?

                  Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
                • Future Ed Aug 14,2020 5:03 pm || Up

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 14,2020 5:26 pm || Up

                  He’s no Cal Worthington.

                  "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
                • Future Ed Aug 14,2020 5:46 pm || Up

                  Are you looking for a better set of wheels?

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • Future Ed Aug 14,2020 5:13 pm || Up

                  follow the link, ed

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • Future Ed Aug 14,2020 5:14 pm || Up

            was this produced for an audience of just you and me?

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
            • AV Aug 14,2020 6:31 pm || Up

              probably.

              *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 14,2020 2:29 pm || Up

          It’s hard to imagine that Nate Silver, who just created an elaborate Uncertainty Index, doesn’t understand that whole fucking point is the cumulative effect of the attacks. Yay, even Kevin McCarthy says we should fund USPS. That won’t matter at all when Trump declares victory/fraud on election night with this as one among his spam blizzard of justifications.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • Glorious Mundy Aug 14,2020 2:39 pm || Up

            His entire shtick now is “how are other people overly confident in their opinions about this important thing that only I am dispassionate enough to say could go either way actually?”

            • AV Aug 14,2020 3:11 pm || Up

              i didn’t read the tweet like that. sounded like pointing out a paradox and trying to get a chuckle out of it but doing it sorta clumsy, what with statisticians not being known for one-liner comedy.

              and it sounds like he’s trying to stabilize his model so it doesn’t jump around after every news item (and people reacting to that jump before it reverts).

              *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
            • nevermoor Aug 15,2020 11:57 am || Up

              In fairness, that’s how he won the 2016 prediction wars.

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
            • FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 20,2020 9:02 am || Up

              This assessment is tough but fair:

              "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
              • ptbnl Dec 20,2020 9:35 am || Up

                The typo in this one is good enough to make me wonder if it was intentional.

                If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
              • andeux Dec 20,2020 9:49 am || Up

                If you’re the kind of person who’s adept with math and stats, you can get pretty far, and provide some real value, building simple models of things with only a little subject-matter expertise, learning just enough about a field to make sure your models are answering the right question. But at some point you also need to realize that in most fields, among the people who do have the real expertise are a fair number who know the relevant math as well. So if your spreadsheet that you built in an hour tells you that everyone in epidemiology is wrong about something, maybe you should consider that it is your model that is too simplistic.
                Us math (and physics) people can be pretty bad in this regard, but it is the econ guys like Silver who are just the fking worst.

                TINSTAAFK
                • ptbnl Dec 20,2020 10:08 am || Up

                  And he’s certainly smart enough to know that the optimization (whether that is simply “minimize the number of deaths” or something more complex that tries to include quality – or even value – of life issues) depends on more than a single variable.

                  If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
                • nevermoor Mar 4,2021 10:40 am || Up

                  Don’t forget lawyers!

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 5,2021 5:49 pm || Up
                  "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
                • elcroata Sep 23,2021 11:28 pm || Up

                  Christ, what an asshole

                  Because survival is insufficient
                • ptbnl Aug 8,2021 2:27 pm || Up

                  Because there’s always a pertinent XKCD

                  If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  79. Glorious Mundy Aug 12,2020 8:30 am

    What the fuuuuu…

    • nevermoor Aug 12,2020 11:26 am || Up

      Wait… you don’t have one of those?

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • AV Aug 12,2020 11:30 am || Up

      clinton’s humidor and allusions to interns…

      he thinks he’s gonna get 78% laid with this, isn’t he.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • Future Ed Aug 12,2020 12:37 pm || Up
        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • Glorious Mundy Aug 12,2020 12:44 pm || Up

          Dear god…just how rich did this charlatan get off of his bs reputation as a voter understander?

          • Future Ed Aug 12,2020 4:16 pm || Up

            Makes you question you morals for sure

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Future Ed Aug 12,2020 12:34 pm || Up

      I don’t mind weird stuff like that. I like the grotto home people, the new orleanes square people and barbra Stristands basement.

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • batgirl Aug 12,2020 4:17 pm || Up

        Did you happen to go see Buyer and Cellar? It was great.

        • Future Ed Aug 12,2020 4:35 pm || Up

          no, that’s fantastic

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • batgirl Dec 27,2020 8:01 am || Up

            I just bought a ticket to this GA fundraiser. It mentions that Michael Urie will be reading, and he was the star of the show when I saw Buyer and Cellar. So I’m wondering (hoping!) he will be reading from that book.

  80. FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 12,2020 12:04 pm

    Appeal already being heard?

    And possibly made slightly better?

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  81. FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 12,2020 1:14 pm

    SS Semien
    CF Laureano
    1B Olson
    3B Chapman
    DH Canha
    LF Grossman
    RF Piscotty
    2B Kemp
    C Murphy
    P Bassitt

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  82. FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 12,2020 1:15 pm

    Home run by Olson….without mustache!

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  83. Glorious Mundy Aug 12,2020 1:23 pm

    This Canning is an Orange County to UCLA guy. Maybe relevant to some people.

  84. andeux Aug 12,2020 1:26 pm

    Glen seems to be doing a pretty good job of calling the games off the feed (which is easier for tv pbp than for radio), but I do notice it a bit on potential HRs. Olson absolutely destroyed that ball, and you wouldn’t have known it from the call until it was over the fence.
    (And same thing for Trout’s, just now.)

    TINSTAAFK
    • andeux Aug 12,2020 1:34 pm || Up

      Now he’s getting used to every ball hit to RF being a HR.
      (Ray: “I guarantee you with the runner on second, Grossman was just trying to hit a ground ball to the right side.” Uh, what?)

      TINSTAAFK
    • andeux Aug 12,2020 1:37 pm || Up

      Vaguely related: Dallas is not there today, but I figured out what is so extra weird about his “poundtown” call. I mean, beside the call itself, which is already weird and bad. It is that he is not even the play-by-play guy. Is there any other color guy who feels the need to chime in with a HR catchphrase 10 seconds after the play is over?

      TINSTAAFK
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 12,2020 1:49 pm || Up

        It’s really most reminiscent of a Sportcenter-type highlight narrator.

        I could see Dallas going two very different paths, one where he patiently waits (hopefully not much longer) as the heir-apparent to Fosse. And the other where he tries to build a catchphrase/hottake brand from the gutter (Barstool) up to a national cable network.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • 5Aces Aug 12,2020 1:54 pm || Up

          Agree on the 2 paths. I think the fact that he was with ESPN and it seemed like he was reduced only because of numbers makes him think it will be the latter.

          I hope while he waits he thinks about reducing the schtick. Poundtown and 69 “nice” references are a young man’s game.

          Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
        • Glorious Mundy Aug 12,2020 2:00 pm || Up

          It calls to mind that SNL skit where Ray Romano is a Sports Center anchor who can’t stop referring to referring to a hockey puck being shot at the goalie’s “pooper.”

      • mikeA Aug 12,2020 1:58 pm || Up

        I like Dallas as color guy including the homerun call

    • Future Ed Aug 12,2020 4:18 pm || Up

      Vince monday was hilarious

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  85. FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 12,2020 1:32 pm

    Hah, you can’t throw a high fastball by our best hitter!

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  86. ptbnl Aug 12,2020 1:43 pm

    How is the sulk-off not top of this list?

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • 5Aces Aug 12,2020 1:52 pm || Up

      I dont even see him linking to it on Twitter so I can complain. Defensive indifference is way worse than any of these.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
      • andeux Aug 12,2020 1:56 pm || Up

        Another personal favorite is the runner scoring from first on a routing sacrifice bunt thrown all the way down the RF line.

        TINSTAAFK
      • andeux Aug 12,2020 1:57 pm || Up

        And of course Ramon(v.1)’s bases-loaded 2-out bunt by a catcher.

        TINSTAAFK
        • 5Aces Aug 12,2020 2:24 pm || Up

          The catcher sticking his face into a sliding runner from third to block the plate is also nice.

          Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  87. FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 12,2020 1:44 pm
    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • AV Aug 12,2020 2:24 pm || Up

      harris’ primaries identity was my favorite—typographers’ typography, a little off the traditional reds/blues. second was warren—WPA-era feel, non-pink lady colors.

      OG biden was one of my least. the no E, jo bid n campaign. i mean, the font is fine. it’s the coloring.

      but yeah, i was wondering about the change in font yesterday. same concept, just a font change.

      just tried it out with the original fonts. noticing that the new font has a square top on the A, my hypothesis was that it would be that the A is pointy on top in brothers 1816 and might create weird [proving that i have been in front of design students for a few years in 3… 2… 1…] negative space. but it was fine. so iono. just keeping the designers working, i guess.

      my quibble is that the new font, because inspired by watch faces, is meant to be legible at small sizes (the purpose of the flat-top A for example), so it looks clunky larger.

      ————

      After Mike Pence was announced as Trump’s running mate, the campaign introduced a logo that depicted a T inside a P and was considered suggestive and promptly pulled […] out.

      what? go see if i misquoted somehow. i did not.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  88. FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 12,2020 3:13 pm

    The ball is really flying out of the Big A today.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  89. andeux Aug 12,2020 3:16 pm

    Uh oh, 2019 Diekman is back.

    TINSTAAFK
    • Glorious Mundy Aug 12,2020 3:17 pm || Up

      Forgot how to grip his slider again?

  90. 5Aces Aug 12,2020 3:17 pm

    The return of DieBBman

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  91. FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 12,2020 3:34 pm

    Leapin’ Laureano!

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  92. andeux Aug 12,2020 3:34 pm

    Very appealing defense by Ramon.

    TINSTAAFK
  93. 5Aces Aug 12,2020 3:35 pm

    As always, Ramon.

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • 5Aces Aug 12,2020 3:39 pm || Up

      If my FB post is right, 2 yrs to the day of Ramon’s great catch and wild throw to double off the runner at 1st.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  94. lenscrafters Aug 12,2020 3:35 pm

    The slegnA are probably pretty mad that the appeal decision wasn’t made in time for today’s game.

  95. andeux Aug 12,2020 3:36 pm

    It would behoove the offense to score some more runs.

    TINSTAAFK
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 12,2020 3:58 pm || Up

      Hits not necessarily required!

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • andeux Aug 12,2020 3:59 pm || Up

      Thank you.

      TINSTAAFK
      • Soaker Aug 12,2020 4:02 pm || Up

        So “behoove” is the magic word. I won’t overuse it but will pull it out when it’s really necessary.

        What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  96. andeux Aug 12,2020 3:54 pm

    Scioscia already on his 7th pitcher.

    TINSTAAFK
  97. andeux Aug 12,2020 4:18 pm

    Coming up next, Greinke vs. Trevor Cahill

    Cahill missed the first quarter of the year with a fingernail injury that he suffered while repairing his bike.

    TINSTAAFK
    • Future Ed Aug 12,2020 4:36 pm || Up

      oh trev

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • Future Ed Aug 12,2020 6:46 pm || Up

        1.2 inning 0 runs 0 hits 2ks 4 bb

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • andeux Aug 12,2020 6:49 pm || Up

          Getting good years out of Cahill in 2018 and Anderson in 2019 was some wizardry.

          TINSTAAFK
  98. Soaker Aug 12,2020 4:37 pm

    It took two days to overcome the combination of my spouting the winning streak statistics and the mikeA Vacation Jinx but it looks like we are ready to resume forward progress now.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  99. FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 12,2020 4:52 pm

    Hey Soaker, what’s your read on these no-tourist protests up there? We have reservations to camp at DL Bliss in a couple weeks and are waffling, mostly for our own coronavirus concerns. Offending the locals would be another reason to cancel. Needless to say, we wouldn’t be leaving trash in our wake.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Soaker Aug 12,2020 6:38 pm || Up

      Oh good grief, I hadn’t seen that. It’s like every other tourist town, we hate the tourists but we want their money. What he’s right about is: I cannot believe how many visitors we have seen this summer since we reopened the hotels and campgrounds and allowed the vacation rentals to go back in business. That was about a week after Memorial Day. This has been the busiest summer I have even seen (now my 12th summer); even weekdays look like weekends, and weekends themselves, yikes. I thought 12% unemployment would work its usual magic but the opposite happened. More people, proportionately more idiots, more trash. Sure you’re welcome to come, but be prepared for crowds and traffic. Re Bliss, I spent one weekday on the beach over at Calawee Cove maybe a month ago and there were a lot of people, but what bugged me most was the maskless dingdongs on the boats, mostly 20- and 30-somethings, having their Covid parties on the water.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • Soaker Aug 12,2020 7:30 pm || Up

        Adding one thing to it: Despite the heavy visitor count, as far as risk of contracting Covid-19 I have all along felt much safer here than I think I would in a heavily populated place like the Bay Area. There are still far fewer people per square foot. But I’m not going to touristy places like ice cream shops and I know which hours are best to hit Safeway (early morning ideally and not at all on the weekend). Outdoor stuff like hikes seems zero risk; I have increasingly seen people coming the other way on a trail put on masks as I approach, or sometimes they’re just wearing them full-time, but I don’t see the need for that, I just smile and give them 6 feet or as close to it as I can, and the way I do it is the rule. But, your comfort zone might be a lot different from mine.

        What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
        • FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 12,2020 7:45 pm || Up

          Thanks a ton for the local insight. For COVID pretty much my only worries are crowded beaches and campground bathrooms. We’ll do 98% of commerce at home (not so much $ for the locals, sorry). But I didn’t realize the crowds had actually grown beyond usual summer levels, that’s disheartening. Our usual DL Bliss routine is to hit the beach early, then hike or siesta midday, then beach again late afternoon.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • Soaker Aug 12,2020 8:09 pm || Up

            Usually the visitor population drops at the time you’re talking about, 2 weeks before Labor Day, as schools open. This year, I don’t know. A kid can learn online on the vacation rental wifi, and the weather is pretty nice until about the first week of November. After that I think the snow shovel thing will drive out some people who think “work from home” at Tahoe is a good solution.

            What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
            • nevermoor Aug 13,2020 9:21 am || Up

              Right. It’s everyone “working” from home suddenly free to be up there.

              Hell, I have a vision of renting a place for all of December and finally getting a real win on ski passes.

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • Future Ed Aug 12,2020 7:50 pm || Up

          Seems reasonable.

          I don’t fear the city, I fear my job and have to have long discussions with sea captains in jail who thinks its a hoax and likes to yell.

          People are generally respectful in the city and we seem to be having better days.

          its pretty quiet at night, which I don’t like.

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
  100. Future Ed Aug 13,2020 6:11 pm

    Fangraphs added statcast data. Its fun I suppose.

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  101. Future Ed Aug 13,2020 8:45 pm

    Scioscia really set up his rotation for the best team in the league

    kersaw 3.0 v Sandoval
    Bueler v Heany
    May v Tehran

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  102. elcroata Aug 13,2020 11:14 pm

    Just watched Zach Plesac Instagram posting about him leaving the hotel. Rarely seen a more righteous attempt to avoid taking any responsibility at all.

    Because survival is insufficient
    • 5Aces Aug 14,2020 7:10 am || Up

      He wants the TRUTH to get out. Of course he immediately says the truth is exactly what has been reported, so uh…yeah.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
      • nevermoor Aug 15,2020 12:00 pm || Up

        And… DFA.

        It’s the Kaep rule: you need to be a star before you’re worth the headache. (Though, of course, I have different views about the WAYS they were headaches.)

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • colin Aug 14,2020 10:49 am || Up

      started watching … realized it was 6.5 minutes long … closed tab

  103. FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 14,2020 10:43 am

    Ramon suspension reduced to four games. I like how MLB is pointedly placing most of the blame on Cintron. Maybe they’ll start punishing umpires who act belligerently for instigating conflicts as well, wouldn’t that be cool?

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • sslinger Aug 14,2020 12:31 pm || Up

      That would be cool, but the umpire’s union would go after that hard, wouldn’t they? Do the coaches even have a union?

      Also, I hope you’re going to be able to watch the Eco Challenge, though it’s on Amazon Prime so you may not get it. The early eco challenges were our first introduction to Mark Burnett, and they were hard core. This one sounds like a doozy, with 60+ teams going after it through Fijian islands.

      • FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 14,2020 1:58 pm || Up

        Ooh, thanks for the rec, we’re looking for a new competition series to watch, will check out.

        Are you caught up with Alone! Exciting, heading into finale next week.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • sslinger Aug 15,2020 12:14 am || Up

          Yes, we’re up to speed on Alone and yeah, all the ones left are great. I’m even enjoying the post-game chats with Colby, as long as we can zoom through the endless commercials. The first couple episodes of Eco Challenge did not disappoint.

      • nevermoor Aug 15,2020 12:02 pm || Up

        Didn’t the ups all wear black armbands when someone got mildly criticized once?

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  104. Future Ed Aug 14,2020 1:25 pm

    Back. Hopefully nothing

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  105. Glorious Mundy Aug 14,2020 1:52 pm

    Oh no Barca. No no no.

    • Future Ed Aug 15,2020 12:30 pm || Up

      Hulu plus won’t play man city lyon till 5!

      Unbelievable. Maybe its time to move on

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  106. Glorious Mundy Aug 14,2020 2:29 pm

    I guess this means he won’t be polluting our TV screens at Yankees playoff games anymore?

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 14,2020 3:10 pm || Up

      Maybe Alan Dershowitz will take his seats.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Future Ed Aug 14,2020 6:12 pm || Up

      This is where the foot soldiers for his remaon in the white house strategy come from:

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  107. Glorious Mundy Aug 14,2020 2:45 pm

    I just watched the Orioles get the last out of the seventh and wasn’t sure until the pitcher walked off the mound whether that was the end of the game or not.

    Weird season.

    • Glorious Mundy Aug 14,2020 2:53 pm || Up

      Orioles are wearing road grays at Camden.

    • nevermoor Aug 15,2020 12:08 pm || Up

      Sure, but at least we won following a hitless 10th inning. So something makes sense.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"

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