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David and his 29 counterparts start meeting today in Scottsdale. John Shea says Forst is looking for lefthanded batters.

I’m kind of expecting this to be a “go for it” offseason that could feature a big trade or two, but who knows. In the meantime, feel free to talk about football.

121 thoughts on “Forst Among Equals

  1. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 11,2019 10:18 am

  2. Soaker Soaker Nov 11,2019 10:45 am

    The biggest “go for it” move is committing $20-22M or whatever to Semien for one season. The combined bill for him and Khris will be north of $40M which probably precludes any other huge moves. Offloading Stephen Piscotty for a lefthanded hitting corner outfielder with more offensive punch than Grossman would help but that will require adding a lot of value besides Piscotty.

    Committing to Semien also makes it more likely that they’ll decline the opportunity to take an expensive chance on fixing Blake Treinen. It’s much cheaper to scrape the broken Lou pieces out of his shower and try to put him back together.

    Presumably Semien will make the “I’m not negotiating once the season starts” announcement. I don’t think they’ll commit $100M+ to anybody until they have clarity on the ballpark and it’s tough to see that happening by late March. And if there’s no ballpark resolution by this time next year I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if Fisher is actively seeking inquiries from Las Vegas, Portland, Montreal, Branson MO or whoever has the money and the inclination.

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    • andeux andeux Nov 11,2019 10:55 am || Up

      At least one, and probably two, of Profar, Barreto, Mateo, Neuse, and Pinder needs to get traded. Whether that will help get any real value back is questionable.

      Slusser has also raised the possibility of Treinen being non-tendered. Given the quality of his stuff, plus his one season of excellent results, I would think someone would think he was worth the arb price, even if it’s not the A’s.

      TINSTAAFK
      • 5Aces 5Aces Nov 11,2019 10:59 am || Up

        Agree with these. Based on their actions this year I can’t see the FO moving Pinder and I can’t see Barreto staying around. The other 3 feel like various degrees of wild cards.

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 11,2019 11:07 am || Up

        Packaged with Daulton Jeffries or Nick Allen or Austin Beck or whatever and you’re starting to get somewhere.

      • Soaker Soaker Nov 11,2019 12:06 pm || Up

        It does seem likely that Treinen will be traded rather than non-tendered, but his value net of arbitration earnings is low enough that there’s not a lot of difference on the A’s end.

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      • colin colin Nov 11,2019 1:15 pm || Up

        I don’t want to lose him, but would Canha help to improve a trade package? He is surely more valuable than Profar and Pinder, right? The comparison to Barreto, Mateo, and Neuse is more complicated because people can still wish-cast prospects.

    • lenscrafters Nov 11,2019 12:09 pm || Up

      Semien will not cost 20-22 million next year. His previous mehness means that he’s tethered to some meh arbitration salaries as well so his Arb3 salary won’t be 4x what he made this year. I expect more in the range of 12 million for next year.

  3. Soaker Soaker Nov 11,2019 12:21 pm

    Suggestion for The Athletic’s new A’s beat writer: Separate your personal and professional Twitter accounts, or, if you only want the one account, keep the focus on A’s news and stop retweeting cat videos and other garbage.

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  4. Soaker Soaker Nov 11,2019 3:52 pm

    Wow, speaking of Mike Leach types who put their foot in their mouth once too often. That’s the end of an era in Canada.

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    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 11,2019 4:04 pm || Up

      In the overall Cherry context a “you people” feels ordinary. Long time coming. I’m sure his second act as aggrieved rightwing victim of speech suppression will start soon.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  5. Soaker Soaker Nov 11,2019 9:18 pm

    There was a play in the MNF game I haven’t seen before. The 49ers were punting and in addition to the two gunners they had a player lined up about even with the punter, 15 yards behind the line of scrimmage. He took off with the snap and didn’t cross the line of scrimmage until after the ball had been kicked, so in effect he was a third gunner with the running start. It does increase the risk of a blocked punt but if the kicking team thinks it can control the rushers anyway, I thought it was a creative play. However, both the NFL and college have been trying to take the violent collisions out of kickoff and punt plays and I tend to think just because of that specific play that will be an illegal formation next season.

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  6. Future Ed Future Ed Nov 12,2019 1:36 pm

    Not to get away from rosterbaiting, I couldn’t chose from all the grift links to reply to:

    Fake agency: State Department’s Bureau of Conflict and Stability Operations

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  7. AV AV Nov 12,2019 3:49 pm

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  8. Future Ed Future Ed Nov 12,2019 4:48 pm

    some good news

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  9. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 12,2019 5:55 pm

    This sounds super intriguing but I lack the needed powers of discernment or scope. If only I knew some astrophysicists.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • ptbnl Nov 13,2019 9:13 am || Up

      It’s at the unholy intersection of technically hard observations, limited (and likely biased) statistics, and computationally-constrained numerical studies – so possibly ground-breaking, surely intriguing, and definitely dominated by systematic uncertainties.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • colin colin Nov 13,2019 9:32 am || Up

      It would be really weird if the universe had a preferred axis. My bet is on “don’t know how to properly calculate the significance of the observed effect” (i.e. ptbnl’s limited (and likely biased) statistics).

      • ptbnl Nov 13,2019 9:39 am || Up

        Absent a preferred axis, I also wonder about the ability of N-body/Hydro sims to capture really large-scale, long-term processes that could produce alignments – initial conditions, finite volume effects, etc.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 13,2019 3:25 pm || Up

        Thanks to you both. Also I saw that the lab is building a new super computer to keep up with your demands.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • ptbnl Nov 13,2019 5:28 pm || Up

          They put in a new one every 3-4 years, so it’ll be the 8th generation since I started at the lab. They’ve taken the bold step of naming the new one after someone living (Perlmutter) which is always risky, though Saul is a sweetheart.

          Even though it won’t be commissioned till late 2020/early 2021, they’re already working on its successor too. We’ve just been asked to provide code to use in the procurement test suite, which is great because it means we can be confident our code will run on whatever they buy!

          If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  10. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 12,2019 6:27 pm

    Bummer for the NCAA that they weren’t allowed to stop this Memphis kid from playing in the “Phil Knight Invitational” because his parents got some moving expenses paid when he was in high school.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 12,2019 6:33 pm || Up

      #DeathtotheNCAA

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 16,2019 1:14 pm || Up

        Also death to the unholy alliance between the NFL (and to a slightly lesser extent, the NBA) and the NCAA. Making a kid like Tua put his body on the line for free this long rather than earn the money he deserves in the league is disgraceful.

  11. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 12,2019 7:56 pm

    There is currently someone on the A’s roster named TJ McFarland. I don’t know why that happened, but it did.

    • Soaker Soaker Nov 13,2019 8:05 am || Up

      Melvin complained that Buchter and Diekman walked too many guys. So BillyForst dumped Diekman, maybe Buchter too, and got Bob a lefty who doesn’t strike out anybody and gives up tons of hits BUT DOESN’T WALK ANYBODY.

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      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 13,2019 9:46 am || Up

        Chances are he’s waived as soon as they need a roster spot (the 40 man is full now with Jonah Heim being added) but perhaps he’ll be saved by a Treinen non-tender or he’ll outlive Blackburn.

      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 13,2019 9:52 am || Up

        If he does make it, I am going to have a hard time not calling him KT from time to time.

  12. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 13,2019 1:33 pm
  13. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 13,2019 1:53 pm
    • Future Ed Future Ed Nov 13,2019 2:57 pm || Up

      The 25 year old stewart also called himself sir rod

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  14. Future Ed Future Ed Nov 13,2019 2:58 pm

    I know its a fantasy, but what gets Betts?

    Full salary, Canha, mateo and ??

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    • 5Aces 5Aces Nov 13,2019 3:12 pm || Up

      I imagine either Puk or Luzardo + more.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 13,2019 3:27 pm || Up

        I don’t think they can get an asset as valuable as Puk or Luzardo for 1 year of Betts at $24 million $28 million (his likely arb salary I guess).

  15. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 13,2019 3:29 pm

    I know I complain about this every year, but my god dribbling out the award announcements at this point is so anticlimactic.

    • dmoas Nov 13,2019 9:47 pm || Up

      Might as well announce them during the playoffs on the various off days. They might get more attention that way. Otherwise, it’s mostly just meh, who cares.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 26,2019 6:25 pm || Up

      Oh look, MLB has invented a whole new kind of superfluous awards to drag out the ennui even more.

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  16. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 14,2019 9:46 am

    OK, but you don’t really need to cheat to hammer a Ryan Dull hanger.

  17. Future Ed Future Ed Nov 15,2019 4:29 pm

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  18. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 17,2019 12:12 pm

    The definitive account of Ukraine scandal to date. Tremendous detail. If only facts mattered.

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  19. AV AV Nov 17,2019 6:31 pm

    the definitive account of signstealing scandal to date. tremendous insight. if only logic mattered.

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 17,2019 7:29 pm || Up

      That’s quite an impressive array of folks lined up to dunk on that guy.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  20. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 19,2019 9:42 am

    I don’t know why it bothers me so much, amid everything else, that Jim Jordan refuses to put on a FKing coat, but it does.

    • Future Ed Future Ed Nov 19,2019 10:53 am || Up

      its a gross affectation. there is such there, there, and we know all the facts already, forcing us to watch means we will have to focus on that dumb shirt.

      plus it looks like every smarmy salesman you have ever encountered

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      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 19,2019 11:34 am || Up

        He wants everyone to know he’s just as buff as he was as a college wrestling coach. Also equally as committed to calling out wrongdoing.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • AV AV Nov 19,2019 12:41 pm || Up

      i suffer an uncanny valley–like discomfort when i look at nunes then stefanik then nunes then stefanik…

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • Future Ed Future Ed Nov 19,2019 7:00 pm || Up

      I was such a bad day for them but they will never know and 40% of the country won’t accept and 20% of the country will shrug.

      Val Demmings destroyed all their talking points for the day in 4 minutes. (the one cop that can do her job isn’t a cop anyhmore)

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  21. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 20,2019 1:09 pm

    • Future Ed Future Ed Nov 20,2019 1:36 pm || Up

      not paying much attention today, that mean the 40 is full?

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 20,2019 2:28 pm || Up

      Even with Cotton gone, that 40-man has a lot of starting pitchers: Fiers, Manaea, Montas, Luzardo, Puk, Mengden, Bassitt, Gossett, Holmes, Kaprielian, Jefferies, Blackburn

      Mengden’s probably gotta go, along with Blackburn, and Bassitt should probably be in the bullpen going forward.

      I like a AAA rotation of Holmes, Kap, Jefferies, Gossett, and Dunshee, but I’m thinking one or two of those guys is packaged up for a big league hitter.

      • 5Aces 5Aces Nov 20,2019 2:35 pm || Up

        SuSlu’s article also mentioned a couple of guys who sound like relievers with some decent K/9 rates. Hopefully they get added and maybe 1-2 of the MI mess gets worked out.

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
        • 5Aces 5Aces Nov 20,2019 2:51 pm || Up

          Scratch this-didnt realize the deadline was today for protection. Still hope they clean up the MI mess regardless.

          Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 20,2019 2:31 pm || Up

      Obviously they’re loading up on Cal Bears ahead of Saturday’s Big Game.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Soaker Soaker Nov 20,2019 4:02 pm || Up

        But we need offense, not defense. O/U is 40 which is above only Minnesota-Northwestern’s 39.5 in college football this weekend. Furd is -2.5; this is the classic battle of crappy teams from the 80s and 90s.

        I went to the Big Game last year (2-week delay due to smoke from the Paradise fire), but am not going this year because I haven’t been to Pasadena in a long time and will instead spend a portion of Thanksgiving weekend watching us and the Eds try to outsuck each other in the Rose Bowl.

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        • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 20,2019 4:30 pm || Up

          O/U 40 is only watchable if it takes place in a blizzard. Yuck.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  22. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 21,2019 8:35 am

    Fiona Hill gave me a serious case of Unexpected British Accent this morning.

    • Future Ed Future Ed Nov 21,2019 9:35 am || Up

      I only heard her with the dems. I assum she shut down the rs?

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    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 21,2019 10:31 am || Up

      I love the implied shade thrown at British accent-based classism.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • AV AV Nov 21,2019 1:18 pm || Up

        saw something this morning not worth going and search for but it went like…

        US: how classy!

        UK: how far north??

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  23. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 21,2019 9:27 am
    • 5Aces 5Aces Nov 21,2019 10:01 am || Up

      They want to get it over with early I see.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
      • Soaker Soaker Nov 21,2019 11:16 am || Up

        That’s exactly why there’s a Royals vs. Tigers game on that list.

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        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 21,2019 11:21 am || Up

          On a Monday at 1 pm eastern. Full burial.

  24. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 22,2019 7:00 pm

    Rooting for Cal tomorrow, of course, but Primera happily informs me that UCSB knocked the Bears out of the NCAA soccer tournament yesterday.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  25. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 23,2019 4:09 pm

    Go Bears!!!

    • Soaker Soaker Nov 23,2019 4:28 pm || Up

      FUCK YEAH

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  26. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 23,2019 4:15 pm

    Yeah Berkeley!

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • sslinger Nov 23,2019 4:32 pm || Up

      Yes, that was a nice finish!

      • Soaker Soaker Nov 23,2019 4:36 pm || Up

        For an awful lot of it I was thinking a climate change protest wouldn’t be such a bad idea.

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  27. AV AV Nov 23,2019 6:09 pm

    my LMBrasil theory lives on in the libertadores final.

    first time it’s made me happy tho.

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 25,2019 11:09 am || Up

      My people were less thrilled by this. Flamengo’s dominance of Rio, and really all of Brazil, in terms of fan support is now locked in for several more generations.

      • AV AV Nov 25,2019 1:14 pm || Up

        an argentine is happy brasil took the libertadores. several brazilians are sad.

        THIS IS WHAT THE TWENTY-TEENS HAVE DONE TO US, PEOPLE.

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • AV AV Nov 25,2019 1:15 pm || Up

          the dumb teens, is what i’m hoping for decade name.

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  28. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 25,2019 1:39 pm

    Don’t know exactly what this means but it sounds important.

    Asked to clarify what exactly the “revised interactive media rights agreement” looks like, Manfred said, “The biggest single change was the return of certain in-market digital rights — the rights that have essentially become substitutional with broadcast rights — those rights will return to the clubs.”

    • dmoas Nov 25,2019 2:25 pm || Up

      If it means what I think it means, teams like the Yankees and Dodgers who are getting a shit ton of cash for broadcasting rights will continue to largely lock down their product inside whatever system gives them the most revenue (whether that’s RSN or some other streaming service). And teams like the A’s will likely spread it out more in an effort to maximize their audience.

    • Soaker Soaker Nov 25,2019 2:46 pm || Up

      It appears to open the door to clubs selling in-market streaming rights over the top without requiring logging in to a cable or satellite subscription, i.e. allowing viewers to watch local telecasts without doing something that violates the TOS of MLB.tv. Think of it as potentially lifting the in-market blackouts on MLB.tv.

      Whether that actually happens is something to be negotiated between each team and its RSN. It could be pretty significant to the A’s because they have an opt-out in their contract with Comcast coming up shortly.

      The demographics of MLB’s television audience are heavily skewed toward middle-aged and elderly and this is probably a suprisingly intelligent way to try to access a younger audience. It will come down to money though, needless to say.

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  29. andeux andeux Nov 25,2019 3:48 pm

    TINSTAAFK
    • Soaker Soaker Nov 25,2019 5:02 pm || Up

      Mateo, Barreto and Neuse would all have to flatline, taken away with sheets over their faces, for Ryan Goins to ever appear in an A’s uniform in the regular season.

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      • dmoas Nov 26,2019 12:57 pm || Up

        So you’re saying there’s a chance?!

      • andeux andeux Nov 26,2019 12:58 pm || Up

        This feels like the kind of comment we will be revisiting in mid-May.

        TINSTAAFK
        • Soaker Soaker Nov 26,2019 2:52 pm || Up

          Well that would be ungood.

          Actually it’s probably only Mateo and Neuse who have to flatline. When andeux links back to this comment, see if Barreto is OPSing .900 for the Marlins or somebody.

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    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 25,2019 5:04 pm || Up

      With Schlitter and Schultz we have the beginnings of a great knockoff bootleg beer label.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  30. Soaker Soaker Nov 25,2019 6:43 pm

    He can’t step on Laureano’s bat in Korea.

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  31. colin colin Nov 25,2019 7:04 pm

    Nick Martini is coming to Cincinnati — I better get my tickets now before they’re gone!

    (I didn’t realize / had forgotten that he went to the Padres at the end of August)

    • ptbnl Nov 26,2019 12:37 am || Up

      Romantic dinner, Nick Martini on cameo, “honey I’ve got tickets to the Padres” … smooooth.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • colin colin Nov 26,2019 6:56 am || Up

        I meant that he is on the Reds now — romantic dinner is Skyline coneys

  32. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 26,2019 3:32 pm

    Darn

    • 5Aces 5Aces Nov 27,2019 8:35 am || Up

      I like Vogt but I also would really like a good defensive catcher as a back up/fill in for injury and I am not sure that’s him. So I hope he has a great year against the Gnats.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  33. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 26,2019 3:33 pm

    Rosenthal in The Athletic:

    The A’s, facing their usual payroll crunch, are discussing trades of reliever Blake Treinen, utilityman Jurickson Profar and catcher Josh Phegley, according to major-league sources.

    All three players are non-tender candidates as they enter their final years of arbitration before reaching free agency. MLBTradeRumors projects Treinen to earn $7.8 million in arbitration, Profar $5.8 million and Phegley $2.2 million.

    The Athletics expect their Opening Day payroll to be in the same $90 million range as last season, sources say. The website RosterResource currently projects them at $111.2 million, virtually guaranteeing the purges of some of their 11 remaining arbitration-eligible players.

    • andeux andeux Nov 26,2019 3:55 pm || Up

      On the one hand, I won’t miss Profar or Phegley at all, and Treinen is a crapshoot.
      OTOH, FK our skinflint billionaire owner’s refusal to move into the middle third of the league in payroll in order to win a championship.

      TINSTAAFK
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 26,2019 5:53 pm || Up

        I would like the skinflint billionaire to enter MLB’s middle class by way of Semien Chapman and Olsen signings. Cutting loose Profar and Phegley makes sense even with an unlimited payroll.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • lenscrafters Nov 26,2019 6:11 pm || Up

        Yes, this current core is about the best and cheapest it can possibly be. By most other teams’ standards, now is the perfect time for some decently sized expenditures and trades to take the team over the top. Like what the Brewers did when they brought in Yelich, Cain, Moustakas. Or what the Braves are doing now. Or even what the Astros did pre-2017 when they shelled out for Reddick, McCann, Beltran, and then Verlander at the deadline.

        There’s still time in this offseason of course, so maybe something big is on the horizon. But it’s hard to read articles like this without thinking that this is the same old organization that’s willing to be just good enough while it pisses away another championship caliber core.

  34. andeux andeux Nov 26,2019 4:05 pm

    Kendall Graveman -> Mariners

    TINSTAAFK
  35. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 26,2019 8:37 pm

  36. AV AV Nov 27,2019 7:32 am

    FYI, though so far it’s 75% shaming at southwest usage:

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • 5Aces 5Aces Nov 27,2019 8:38 am || Up

      N o one knows how to use Twitter when they start. Many never learn either, but I will give him time.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  37. Future Ed Future Ed Nov 28,2019 7:41 am

    at my parents house in so cal. forgot how upsetting it is when the newspaper gets wet in the driveway

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Soaker Soaker Nov 30,2019 3:53 pm || Up

      Also when you drive 400 miles to see a football game in the Rose Bowl and it’s raining. With UCLA being 4-7 I think it will be me and a couple thousand others, mostly from Cal, with plenty of room to spread out in the stadium tonight.

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      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 30,2019 7:38 pm || Up

        It is crazy that this game still hasn’t kicked off.

        • Soaker Soaker Nov 30,2019 11:07 pm || Up

          And the Bear Territory chant echoes through a mostly empty Rose Bowl.

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          • Future Ed Future Ed Dec 1,2019 9:22 am || Up

            i bet the bands played the cal fight song

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  38. ptbnl Nov 29,2019 4:20 pm

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • colin colin Nov 29,2019 7:20 pm || Up

      re item 7: does this mean you are all on freekraut.us but didn’t tell me?

      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 30,2019 8:40 am || Up

        I figured I was the one who got ditched, for posting one too many links with autoplay spam.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Nov 30,2019 9:18 am || Up

          changes groupchat name to FK SFGATE

          • ptbnl Nov 30,2019 12:00 pm || Up

            What part of “don’t draw attention to it” do you guys not understand?

            If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
            • 5Aces 5Aces Nov 30,2019 1:16 pm || Up

              I second this comment.

              Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  39. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 30,2019 8:39 pm

    Easy to say now but I knew the Raiders were going to get waxed against the Jets last week, and I am equally certain they will get beaten up at KC tomorrow. They’re better than I thought but still total frauds as far as the playoff conversation goes.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • 5Aces 5Aces Dec 1,2019 10:34 pm || Up

      I had no doubt about today’s debacle but I had not forgot that we hadnt seen the annual mailed in game against a team that they should roll over yet. It is a tradition like no other.

      There are signs of life but until they get a defense that can at least slow some people down it doesnt matter what else the team does.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • Soaker Soaker Dec 2,2019 10:10 am || Up

      To capture the 2019 (and final) Asomugha Cup, 7-5 Cal needs the 6-6 Raiders to lose all four remaining games. Since 1995, the Raiders have won 14 Asomugha Cups, Cal has won 9 and there has been one tie.

      Asomugha Cup stats:
      Raiders and Cal combined records over .500: 5 times
      Under .500: 18 times
      Exactly .500: 1 time

      Best combined record: 2002, 18-10 (Cal 7-5, Raiders 11-5)
      Worst combined record: 2013, 5-23 (Cal 1-11, Raiders 4-12)

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      • 5Aces 5Aces Dec 2,2019 11:31 am || Up

        A tradition like no other.

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty

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