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Judgement Nights 233

I try to avoid hyperbole, but these next four games in Houston are the most important in the history of sports. At 1-8 on the season series thus far the A’s have failed worse than Napoleon in Russia (take note, Les Bleus).  Anything worse than a split here would be a crash of Hindenburgian proportions.

All four games scheduled to include M pitchers:

Montas vs Cole

Manaea vs Verlander

Bassitt vs McCullers

TBD vs Morton

"Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."

233 thoughts on “Judgement Nights

  1. FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 9,2018 4:48 pm

    Yes success!

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  2. Glorious Mundy Jul 9,2018 4:56 pm
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 9,2018 6:43 pm || Up

      That soundtrack was epic.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • AV Jul 9,2018 6:50 pm || Up

        love fallin’.

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  3. Glorious Mundy Jul 9,2018 6:07 pm

    We may need a shutout here, Frankie.

  4. Glorious Mundy Jul 9,2018 6:13 pm

    Altootblan

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 9,2018 6:44 pm || Up

      He was so sure he was gonna catch Lucroy routine-ing it, then, oops.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Glorious Mundy Jul 12,2018 1:48 pm || Up

      Got him again

      • sslinger Jul 12,2018 4:56 pm || Up

        Yeah, and he made some crappy plays in the field too this series.

  5. Glorious Mundy Jul 9,2018 6:52 pm

    108 pitches through six for G. Cole. Still pumping 100 mph though.

  6. lenscrafters Jul 9,2018 7:06 pm

    Jesus Luzardo tonight: 6 IP 10 Ks 1 BB 0 R

    He went 6 innings for the first time this season, presumably because the pitch count was so low it made sense to (only threw 64 pitches total).

    Also, Piscotty is good now!

    • Glorious Mundy Jul 9,2018 7:18 pm || Up

      Am I crazy to think there is a scenario where he is pitching in Oakland in September?

      • 5Aces Jul 9,2018 7:26 pm || Up

        Is there any reason not to have him come up and even just putch an inning of mop up?

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
      • andeux Jul 9,2018 7:30 pm || Up

        TINSTAAFK
      • lenscrafters Jul 9,2018 7:48 pm || Up

        At 78 IP and an innings limit of 100 this year, he has about 4-5 starts left.

        • Glorious Mundy Jul 9,2018 7:51 pm || Up

          Ah well. I’ll start hoping he makes the 2019 rotation out of camp.

          • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 9,2018 8:54 pm || Up

            Jesus Puk n’ … Chris?

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • lenscrafters Jul 9,2018 11:15 pm || Up

      Video of Luzardo making a batter look silly for his 10th K tonight. At one point the announcer says he hits 98.

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      • Future Ed Jul 10,2018 12:09 am || Up

        Maybe we call him dr lizardo and monkeyball comes back

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • AV Jul 10,2018 6:43 am || Up

          la zurda

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  7. FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 9,2018 7:07 pm

    PBiscotty!

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  8. 5Aces Jul 9,2018 7:27 pm

    It worked this tine, but I still support just drilling Gattis in the ribs every AB.

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  9. 5Aces Jul 9,2018 7:29 pm

    Ray said it is a whole different game after the ASB. Does it mean 5 balls for a walk?

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  10. lenscrafters Jul 9,2018 7:43 pm

    Tyler White and Evan Gattis have to be related right?

  11. lenscrafters Jul 9,2018 7:52 pm

    This umpire is fucking clueless.

    • lenscrafters Jul 9,2018 7:59 pm || Up

      • Glorious Mundy Jul 9,2018 8:00 pm || Up

  12. FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 9,2018 7:56 pm

    Maybe Springer gets a hit there anyway but FU ump.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  13. Glorious Mundy Jul 9,2018 8:02 pm

    Gattis. Fuck.

  14. lenscrafters Jul 9,2018 8:07 pm

    Great fucking game.

  15. FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 9,2018 8:07 pm

    Boom goes the Treinenyte!

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  16. Glorious Mundy Jul 9,2018 8:08 pm

    Good stuff!

  17. 5Aces Jul 9,2018 8:08 pm

    Eat it fatty! Victory cabbage for all.

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  18. Glorious Mundy Jul 9,2018 8:10 pm

    Haven’t give up a run in a minute, have we.

  19. mother pucker Jul 9,2018 8:21 pm

    I feel infinitely more confident in Trivino/Treinen than I ever did with Cook/Doolittle/Grant.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 9,2018 8:28 pm || Up

      Well, Doo was pretty good and Cook had a great run. But Trivino and especially Treinen are just so damned composed compared to the crazyman type. Like, professional.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  20. Future Ed Jul 9,2018 10:03 pm

    As I am in Seattle right now I feel obligated to call on the as to go 54-40 before the all star break.

    54-40 or fight

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • AV Jul 10,2018 6:44 am || Up

      *and (?)

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • Future Ed Jul 10,2018 2:15 pm || Up

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 10,2018 3:10 pm || Up

          Presumably the musical retort will come from The Whigs.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • AV Jul 10,2018 3:46 pm || Up

            or anyone else who wants to polk their nose in.

            *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • Future Ed Jul 12,2018 4:06 pm || Up

      I can’t believe the A’s missed this by the strength of josh reddicks check swing.

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  21. elcroata Jul 10,2018 4:46 am

    Wait a minute. I was away for not even full three weeks and the A’s are … contenders?

    Because survival is insufficient
    • Glorious Mundy Jul 10,2018 8:27 am || Up

      We’re contendish.

    • 5Aces Jul 10,2018 9:26 am || Up

      In a normal year we would be right in the middle of everything. But these dumb superteams ya’know.

      We just have to have that Dory attitude. Just keep winning, just keep winning.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
      • elcroata Jul 10,2018 9:30 am || Up

        Yeah, more wins than any team in National League bar… Brewers?!

        Because survival is insufficient
  22. Glorious Mundy Jul 10,2018 8:26 am
  23. FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 10,2018 3:11 pm

    Justice for Jed!

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  24. lenscrafters Jul 10,2018 3:51 pm

    Great interview with Fuson. This guy does not BS at all.

    • vignette17 Jul 10,2018 4:41 pm || Up

      But if you wanted good news on Kaep, look away. Dude’s gonna be 25 before he throws another milb pitch. Is it just me or are the A’s worse about recovery from TJS than any other team?

      I honestly don’t remember a successful case. Worrisome for Cotton and Puk who I had high hopes for.

      • Glorious Mundy Jul 11,2018 9:37 am || Up

        His answers on Kaprelian are strikingly terse compared to his effusive, warts-and-all answers about every other player.

        It makes me think either his shoulder is much worse than the team has let on, or there is an internal conflict (either within the front office or between the front office and the player) about how to handle him.

        • Future Ed Jul 14,2018 4:00 pm || Up

          i can’t be too down on the package fro gray, though

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • vignette17 Jul 16,2018 10:05 am || Up

            I mean, why not? Fowler’s OK I guess, but I’m not sure he’ll really be the CF of the future. I’ve always been pretty down on Mateo and he’s been terrible this year.

            Gray’s been bad, but I would take him back in a heartbeat. I would trade Mateo/Kaep for Gray right now, although I think the Yankees would accept less from any non-A’s team. In a vacuum, I’m not sure I wouldn’t trade Fowler/Mateo/Kaep for Gray. An, at worst mid-rotation, still young SP with a history of performing in big games? Aside from superstars, that’s exactly what the A’s need right now.

            • Future Ed Jul 16,2018 2:06 pm || Up

              I totally agree on gray. I think getting him back and letting him throw a fastball would be a perfect fit. I do think it would be cheap. I have a fantasy of forst/beane sneaking into someone elses trade

              I have $5. No I don\'t.
              • andeux Jul 16,2018 2:58 pm || Up

                I dunno.

                I didn’t like the trade, arguing that if we couldn’t get profiles with better reward/risk profiles than those three it would be better to hold on to Sonny and wait another year. It seems pretty clear that that would have been a losing proposition, if the best anyone here can say is that they might reverse it, despite a completely lost season from Kaprielian and a terrible one for Mateo.

                Is Sonny really “at worst mid-rotation” now? He’s been downright bad two of the last three years, and even last year was not great. Maybe the different pitching philosophy, or just the change of scenery back would help. Or maybe wear and tear has already taken enough of a toll on his arm, even if that doesn’t show up in obvious ways like diminished velocity. If he really could be had cheap, sure, go for it. (Buy low, etc.) But it might not be like getting an ace at the deadline.

                TINSTAAFK
                • Future Ed Jul 16,2018 3:40 pm || Up

                  I never had enough knowledge to have an opinion about the gray deal last year, writers seemed to like it, those of you here that have deeper understanding of prospects were meh to no. the appeal of gray is that sheryl ring piece in fangraphs earlier this year and the prospect of getting him cheaply.

                  I would love a new pitcher, like the other gray, but I really don’t want to see anything other than money spent on upgrading the rotation. which is kinda like saying “I don’t want to upgrade the rotation at the deadline.”

                  I worry of the sustainability of the current winning formula, starter goes twice through the order, and have the bullpen take 5 inning. Has an A’s starter made it to the 7th in a while?

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • ptbnl Jul 16,2018 9:50 pm || Up

                  20 times this season – 1 in March, 6 in April, 7 in May, 5 in June, but only 1 in July (4th).

                  Bassitt 1
                  Cahill 3
                  Gossett 1
                  Manaea 8
                  Megden 4
                  Montas 2
                  Triggs 1

                  If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
                • Future Ed Jul 17,2018 6:09 am || Up

                  Sunday probably would have been 2 in july had it not been for all star break and nl park

                  Still, that seems low.

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • 5Aces Jul 17,2018 9:40 am || Up

                  It’s been awhile since I eagerly awaited the return of Cahill. Actually Im not sure I have ever done that.

                  Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
      • Glorious Mundy Jul 14,2018 3:44 pm || Up

        There you go!

    • Glorious Mundy Jul 10,2018 8:00 pm || Up

      So, I mean, you know, shit happens when you have the ability to homer, right?

  25. FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 10,2018 6:31 pm

    That ejection seemed so random.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Glorious Mundy Jul 10,2018 6:32 pm || Up

      Maybe something lingering from last night? Melvin had some postgame quotes that seemed like subtle shots at Vanover’s calls on Fowler.

  26. Future Ed Jul 10,2018 6:41 pm

    can’t wait to see this resilient team I have been reading about this last week.

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Glorious Mundy Jul 10,2018 8:18 pm || Up

      well you’ve seen it

      • Future Ed Jul 10,2018 8:20 pm || Up

        I like

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • Glorious Mundy Jul 10,2018 8:22 pm || Up

          They do the “make the starter throw a lot of pitches and then punish the bullpen” thing that I know you love.

          • Future Ed Jul 10,2018 8:25 pm || Up

            you have been mining FK data from 2011

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
  27. Future Ed Jul 10,2018 7:25 pm

    with bob ejected, Casilla gets in a tight* game

    *I mean, ok tightish

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  28. Glorious Mundy Jul 10,2018 7:26 pm

    Korach is calling Casilla “Willie”?

    • Future Ed Jul 10,2018 7:43 pm || Up

      has for years. Claims it is his nickname. I believe one of the defendants in a few good men is Willie Santiago. My guess is prior to his departure in 2009, they watched the movie on the plane and some people called Casilla “willie” I refuse to believe it is wide spread, or followed him to the giants.

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • andeux Jul 10,2018 7:46 pm || Up

        It is on his b-r page (as “Willi”)

        I also noticed the other day that “Pegasus” is listed for Chapman there, which led me to this from his college days.

        TINSTAAFK
      • Glorious Mundy Jul 10,2018 7:47 pm || Up

        I strenuously object to that nickname.

        • Future Ed Jul 10,2018 8:21 pm || Up

          you can’t handle the truth

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • andeux Jul 10,2018 7:51 pm || Up
        TINSTAAFK
        • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 10,2018 8:02 pm || Up
          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 10,2018 8:20 pm || Up

          Nice ninth, fellows!

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 10,2018 7:57 pm || Up

        He’l always be Jairo to me.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • 5Aces Jul 11,2018 9:01 am || Up

          Slowly read the thread first just to confirm someone didnt beat me to this.

          Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  29. andeux Jul 10,2018 7:53 pm

    No 8th inning magic.

    TINSTAAFK
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 10,2018 7:58 pm || Up

      Setting up Hatcher for the win.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  30. Glorious Mundy Jul 10,2018 8:02 pm

    Fosse’s radio spots for “tootsie roll bites” is hilarious. “They’re full of tootsie fun!”

  31. Glorious Mundy Jul 10,2018 8:07 pm

    Hmmmm

  32. elcroata Jul 10,2018 8:29 pm

    Wow, indeed

    Because survival is insufficient
  33. andeux Jul 10,2018 8:43 pm

    Don’t throw that curve down the middle to Gattis a second time.

    TINSTAAFK
  34. FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 10,2018 8:43 pm

    Anyone else notice a couple odd new taglines coming up

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  35. Future Ed Jul 10,2018 8:46 pm

    if guriel steals….

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  36. Glorious Mundy Jul 10,2018 8:47 pm

    It’s nice that we’ve already used Casilla and Hatcher.

  37. andeux Jul 10,2018 8:47 pm

    Got through Altuve and Gattis.
    And we’ve already used Casilla and Hatcher.

    TINSTAAFK
  38. FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 10,2018 8:48 pm

    Ray: “I agree with you 100%” {then deliver Rickey Henderson anecdote arguing exactly the opposite)

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  39. Glorious Mundy Jul 10,2018 8:52 pm

    This ump is sure giving the outside pitches.

  40. FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 10,2018 8:55 pm

    Hey hey Piscotty!

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  41. Future Ed Jul 10,2018 8:55 pm

    such a good story

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  42. Glorious Mundy Jul 10,2018 8:56 pm

  43. Future Ed Jul 10,2018 9:02 pm

    i don’t like this part

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  44. Glorious Mundy Jul 10,2018 9:04 pm

    That was a fucking strike

  45. Future Ed Jul 10,2018 9:05 pm

    damn

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  46. FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 10,2018 9:06 pm

    Drat.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  47. Future Ed Jul 10,2018 9:08 pm

    i have hope for the 12th

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  48. Glorious Mundy Jul 10,2018 9:10 pm

    FKing hell

  49. Future Ed Jul 10,2018 9:11 pm

    just score 2 in the 12th, we are good

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  50. FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 10,2018 9:11 pm

    That was as strange a play as I’ve ever seen.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  51. andeux Jul 10,2018 9:13 pm

    Not Lucroy’s finest moment. Or inning.

    TINSTAAFK
    • Glorious Mundy Jul 10,2018 9:18 pm || Up

      Canha probably should have done better?

      • Glorious Mundy Jul 10,2018 9:32 pm || Up

        Or did the ball hit the runner? Never mind.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 10,2018 9:20 pm || Up

      He had no reason to hurry either, could’ve just stood there with the ball and made the tag.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Glorious Mundy Jul 10,2018 9:25 pm || Up

        It kind of depends on what the runners were doing. He may have thought he needed to throw down to third after tagging Bregman.

        • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 10,2018 10:15 pm || Up

          I can’t imagine the lead runner was very far off second at that point.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • Glorious Mundy Jul 11,2018 4:25 pm || Up

            In that case, the correct play would have been throwing to third and then back to first for the easy double play.

            • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 11,2018 4:34 pm || Up

              Oh man that would have been so effin cool.

              "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  52. Soaker Jul 10,2018 9:16 pm

    They tried to hide me at catcher in 3rd grade Peanut League, and I think I lost us a game on a play something like that one.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  53. 5Aces Jul 11,2018 9:03 am

    Glad that the comedy show Lil Miss Aces sold me tickets to was last night. Got to miss that joke and instead got a surprise 20 minutes of jokes from Paul Reiser.

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  54. Glorious Mundy Jul 11,2018 12:51 pm

    • Future Ed Jul 11,2018 1:27 pm || Up

      true athletic

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 11,2018 2:48 pm || Up

        Jose Guillen will always have a place in my heart.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • Soaker Jul 11,2018 4:19 pm || Up

          Didn’t both Cansecos have that at almost the same time?

          What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • Soaker Jul 24,2018 10:58 am || Up

      Hmmm, it may be contagious.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  55. Glorious Mundy Jul 11,2018 3:58 pm

    Still can’t stop smdh’ing over that play last night.

    • Soaker Jul 11,2018 4:21 pm || Up

      I was tossing and turning between about 3 and 5 a.m. over that one, and I bet Lucroy did the same for more than just two hours.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  56. Glorious Mundy Jul 11,2018 4:00 pm

    Attn: AV

  57. Glorious Mundy Jul 11,2018 4:22 pm

    • andeux Jul 11,2018 4:29 pm || Up

      The credit card debts and loan were either paid off or fell below the reporting requirements in 2017, according to the filings, which do not require details on the nature or source of such payments.

      Of course.

      TINSTAAFK
      • Glorious Mundy Jul 11,2018 4:42 pm || Up

        Yeah this is the key part.

      • Future Ed Jul 11,2018 7:36 pm || Up

        he was a judge? Judges are bound to always pay for things. this raises a lot of questions that I know will never be answered and even if they are will be shrugged off by the NYT/WaPo no matter how many of these friends are lobbyists

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Soaker Jul 11,2018 4:32 pm || Up

      I guess the Nationals will be picking up Doolittle’s 2019 option.

      Seriously, I hope every FKer has more in his or her retirement account(s) than Mr. Kavanaugh has in total assets.

      Edit: Oh, wait, This story has been updated to reflect that Kavanaugh has a government retirement account worth nearly half a million dollars that was not required to be disclosed.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 11,2018 4:32 pm || Up

      I was just reading this. Frankly Kavanaugh’s modest assets from a life as a jurist (and not a highly paid white collar lawyer) is a mark in his favor in my book. Not nearly enough to outweigh the marks against him of course. But we definitely need more not-rich folks in government.

      Also I bet he thinks Dusty Baker is brilliant.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • andeux Jul 11,2018 4:53 pm || Up

        Not-rich?
        He’s a graduate of Georgetown Prep (same as Gorsuch), and Yale (figures) who has been making a salary of “about $220,000 a year” for at least a decade. I guess that is a modest salary compared to some private lawyers, but that still doesn’t mean he can relate in any way to the common folk. He’s a plenty rich guy who lives beyond his means either because he’s a complete imbecile or (more likely) because he knows that he can collect wingnut welfare from the donor classes whenever he wants.
        Agree with your last sentence, though.

        TINSTAAFK
        • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 11,2018 5:46 pm || Up

          That’s all fair and he’s quite privileged to be sure. He’s still a less plutocratic Pres appointee than most (and not just Trump), two income family paying mortgage and education and Nats tix costs.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  58. Glorious Mundy Jul 11,2018 4:32 pm

    Regarding last night:

    No outs, runners on first and third, up a run in the bottom of the 11th. Would playing the infield back have been the better move?

    I think not, but only because the batter (Kemp) was an extremely fast runner who would be hard to double up. Anyone but him or Altuve in the box, I’m trying to turn two and get to the 12th.

  59. Glorious Mundy Jul 11,2018 5:21 pm

    Good start

  60. aardvark Jul 11,2018 5:22 pm

    Hi friends. I’ve got a bit of a unique situation. Do any of you FKn lawyers know someone who handles mergers and acquisitions that you’d recommend? Bonus if they are familiar with nonprofits.

    • Future Ed Jul 11,2018 7:24 pm || Up

      I don’t. I know lots of people who could defend a DUI or a fight

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 11,2018 7:25 pm || Up

        Not a DUI, a DU Us!

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • aardvark Jul 17,2018 2:30 pm || Up

        I’ll keep that in mind. Thanks.

    • nevermoor Jul 30,2018 1:16 pm || Up

      What’s your price point? (he says weeks after it is too late to be of assistance, digging out of a big FKing backlog)

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  61. FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 11,2018 5:47 pm

    Unleash the hound!

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Soaker Jul 11,2018 6:05 pm || Up

      So far so good, but Bassitt, Cahill, Jackson, Anderson, plus the shallowness of the bullpen quality, is why I’m not buying A’s stock. At least the Anderson issue does generally self-resolve within about 3 weeks.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 11,2018 6:09 pm || Up

        A’s stock will remain enticingly affordable for awhile, you have time.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • Soaker Jul 11,2018 6:44 pm || Up

          I like the October 2020 call options. Still not crazy about the October 2019 but I’ve been slow to pull the trigger there before.

          What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • Future Ed Jul 11,2018 7:25 pm || Up

        its a one day at a time thing, really. I was counting outs in this game from #1.

        I think get through today and there is a good chance they will be over 500 by tomorrow.

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • andeux Jul 11,2018 7:45 pm || Up

        The rotation was the obvious weakness at the beginning of the year, and when we were hanging around at .500, and even now during this 17-5(!) streak which has mostly featured pretty good pitching.
        The A’s have used 12 starters (not counting Lucas spot start in bullpen game). Six have been decent (Manaea, Montas, Cahill, Bassitt, Jackson, arguably Mengden), the other five have mostly been bad (Anderson, Gossett, Triggs, Graveman, Blackburn).
        Five of that group staying both healthy and effective is probably too much to ask. Four might be enough, and is at least plausible. Likely? OK, probably not. There is also the possibility that just hanging around for another couple of weeks could be enough to make us buyers at the deadline.
        So basically what Ed said. I’ll enjoy the unexpectedly good baseball for now, and try not to be too disappointed if Gossburn are starting important games down the stretch.

        TINSTAAFK
  62. Glorious Mundy Jul 11,2018 6:40 pm

    He never, ever caught that ball.

  63. andeux Jul 11,2018 6:41 pm

    Has Larry Vanover always been this terrible?

    TINSTAAFK
  64. Glorious Mundy Jul 11,2018 6:41 pm

    Melvin is exasperated with this umpiring crew.

  65. FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 11,2018 6:43 pm

    Astros are playing kinda fugly.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Glorious Mundy Jul 11,2018 6:47 pm || Up

      You jinxed it. That was a nice play.

  66. Soaker Jul 11,2018 6:47 pm

    Why is Mike Gallego guest-coaching at third base?

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • Glorious Mundy Jul 11,2018 6:48 pm || Up

      The kid’s got a strong arm, but I can’t blame Williams there after he airmailed the one in the first.

  67. Soaker Jul 11,2018 6:53 pm

    And we will see you in September, Mr. Piscotty.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • Glorious Mundy Jul 11,2018 7:08 pm || Up

      Ramon Laureano time? Fowler, Canha, Pinder, Martini is a little thin out there if you bring back Barreto.

      • Glorious Mundy Jul 11,2018 7:11 pm || Up

        Oh wait, we still have Smolinski. Yay.

        • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 11,2018 7:13 pm || Up

          And Khrush, heading into Pac Bell.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Soaker Jul 11,2018 7:16 pm || Up

        I know Barreto hasn’t played any outfield, though it was floated at one time, but neither had Pinder, and that’s a way to get a player regular ABs at the big league level while keeping Jed past July 31.

        What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  68. Glorious Mundy Jul 11,2018 6:55 pm

    This one has started to take on a bad odor.

    • Soaker Jul 11,2018 6:59 pm || Up

      It’s an attempted 6-out Trivino save that will see 4 outs.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • Glorious Mundy Jul 11,2018 7:35 pm || Up

        How about the attempted 6-out Pagan hold?

  69. Glorious Mundy Jul 11,2018 6:57 pm

    Starting to get annoyed with Bregman.

    • Future Ed Jul 11,2018 7:27 pm || Up

      he is a mixed bag isn’t he? I kinda like him and his attitude, but I don’t like how he does well against the A’s

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  70. FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 11,2018 6:57 pm

    A Mariner beat a Yankee and a Red Sock in a fan popularity vote? Seems fishy.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  71. lenscrafters Jul 11,2018 7:01 pm

    Bassitt’s secondary pitches are just not very good. He’s done fine getting ahead of hitters 0-2, 1-2 but he ends up in full counts more often than not.

  72. Soaker Jul 11,2018 7:08 pm

    Fowler as the leadoff hitter isn’t working for me. Maybe, or probably, eventually, but he just looks overmatched too often right now.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • lenscrafters Jul 11,2018 7:12 pm || Up

      The whole walking once a month thing doesn’t help either.

  73. Glorious Mundy Jul 11,2018 7:12 pm

    Centimeters away from two homers this inning.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 11,2018 7:13 pm || Up

      Both no-doubt moonshots to Glen Kuiper.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Future Ed Jul 11,2018 7:29 pm || Up

        KK called davis’ as a hit

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
  74. Glorious Mundy Jul 11,2018 7:29 pm

    Vince says Dull is “trying to find more conviction in his pitches.”

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 11,2018 7:32 pm || Up

      They were convicted and sentenced to AAA but he got sprung.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  75. Soaker Jul 11,2018 7:37 pm

    That’s weird that the AAA All-Star Game was tonight. Did MLB and MiLB not communicate about that?

    I see the Reno Aces are at home next week, including head-to-head with the MLB All-Star Game. I went to one Aces game earlier and noticed that the extended screens have not filtered down to AAA. I was sitting 3 rows behind the 1B dugout, and I used to hate sitting behind a screen, but then I turned 50 and realized I was getting a bit too old for that risk.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • Soaker Jul 11,2018 7:43 pm || Up

      To add about that Aces game a few weeks ago: It was first and third, 2 outs, 3-2 count. Suddenly the home plate umpire throws his hands up and shouts “Ball Four!” WTF? It was because the 20-second pitch clock had run out. The pitcher was pissed, even more so when the next hitter lined the first pitch into right field and drove in 2 runs. That was the only 20-second call of the game. I’m not looking forward to seeing that in the majors.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • Glorious Mundy Jul 11,2018 7:46 pm || Up

      Looking at the box score, the PCL manager seems to have been determined to get every pitcher into the game. Seven pitchers divided the last nine outs, including a four-pitch, one batter stint by Bobby Wahl.

      James Naile threw a full inning and gave up three runs.

  76. Future Ed Jul 11,2018 7:43 pm

    gotta be trivino now, yeah? this is the heart of the order.

    or score 3 and use…dull?

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  77. lenscrafters Jul 11,2018 7:52 pm

    This entire umpiring crew is terrible.

    • Soaker Jul 11,2018 7:59 pm || Up

      Fowler dug most of his own grave on the 5-K night but he definitely got the “shut-up-Rookie” treatment on a few calls, not just that final pitch of the 5th K. He did handle all of that pretty well.

      There was a ludicrous checked-swing call on Lowrie in the first inning tonight, by the 3B umpire who called the swing on Khris as the plate umpire last night. It was like, “Oh, you guys like appeals to the base umpires? Fine, take this.”

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  78. Soaker Jul 11,2018 8:30 pm

    Nice comeback after the sleepness night. I was dubious about committing money to the Coors Field trip, relatively late in what I expected to be a lousy season, back in January but that’s looking like a wise decision now.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • Future Ed Jul 11,2018 8:35 pm || Up

      yesterday and that tag at the plate in new york would really be bummers if not for today and the boston series.

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  79. Future Ed Jul 11,2018 8:44 pm

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  80. ptbnl Jul 12,2018 7:47 am

    How did the Cubs get so bad so quickly?

    I took my father-in-law to our annual game yesterday, and with the A’s out of town it had to be the Giants/Cubs. Montgomery aside the Cubs pitching was passable, but their hitting was pretty poor, and the two official errors flattered their defense (and Posey’s offense – definitely some home-scorer hits there), with Bryant at 3rd being particularly bad.

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  81. FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 12,2018 9:43 am

    Preview of Soaker’s favorite golf tournament, which starts tomorrow.

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/golf/article/Stephen-Curry-Mark-Mulder-and-celebrity-wagers-13067872.php

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  82. FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 12,2018 12:15 pm

    Bregmanned.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  83. Glorious Mundy Jul 12,2018 12:55 pm

    Double Martini please

  84. Glorious Mundy Jul 12,2018 12:58 pm

    The Astros are FKing up a lot. The are a lot worse without Correa.

  85. Glorious Mundy Jul 12,2018 1:22 pm

    I feel bad for Hatcher. That Kemp homer was ridiculous.

  86. Glorious Mundy Jul 12,2018 2:03 pm

    8th Inning

    • Soaker Jul 12,2018 2:10 pm || Up

      Which wouldn’t have ended in a GIDP if Canha could bother running.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  87. Glorious Mundy Jul 12,2018 2:13 pm

    Got hit right in the Bucht?

  88. Glorious Mundy Jul 12,2018 2:18 pm

    This must be the worst series of Altuve’s life.

  89. Glorious Mundy Jul 12,2018 2:34 pm

    This team is for real.

  90. Soaker Jul 12,2018 2:39 pm

    Glorious Mundy May 11,2018 7:12 pm
    .500!

    andeux May 11,2018 8:48 pm
    FK yeah!

    FreeSeatUpgrade May 11,2018 10:17 pm
    Maybe we’ll keep coming up for occasional breaths of .500 air right on through the summer.

    Soaker May 13,2018 4:06 pm
    Nah, I’m calling Friday, May 11/Game 38 as the day. We’ll see you in Tokyo!

    After that pile of stink home series vs. the Astros a few weeks ago, I thought the Padres and White Sox would keep them afloat for a couple weeks. But certainly the 3 in Cleveland followed by 4 in Houston would finish them off for good.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  91. Glorious Mundy Jul 12,2018 2:41 pm

    I really like having a great bullpen.

  92. FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 12,2018 2:48 pm

    Holy crap, we won! Three of four in Houston. Good times!

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Future Ed Jul 12,2018 3:47 pm || Up

      I don’t know what to say. I like wins. I still don’t see how it happens.

      Getting to Bumgarner would be nice.

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • vignette17 Jul 12,2018 3:55 pm || Up

        Not that I set expectations high, but if the A’s can win 4 or 5 of the games against SF, I think 95.7 might devote a couple minutes to them.

        • Glorious Mundy Jul 12,2018 4:00 pm || Up

          Nah, by then they’ll just be talking about which third-string long snapper is looking good in 49ers camp.

          • dmoas Jul 13,2018 9:26 am || Up

            What the what’s wrong with the Giants commentary. As well as who they’re going to sell and who they’re going to get.

          • Glorious Mundy Jul 16,2018 11:01 am || Up

            I dipped into 95.7 three times this morning:

            1. Home Run Derby: Lame or Cool?
            2. Niners Niners Niners
            3. Randy Wynn talking about the Giants

            I also listened to about five minutes of KNBR, in which Brian Murphy was twice lamented that the Giants didn’t hit Canha “in the ribs.”

            • sslinger Jul 19,2018 12:35 pm || Up

              I have to say, I’m perversely enjoying Steinmetz & Ratto see who can be the crustiest curmudgeon.

  93. Glorious Mundy Jul 12,2018 6:47 pm

  94. Glorious Mundy Jul 12,2018 7:36 pm

    James Paxton pulled in the first inning with an apparent injury.

    • Future Ed Jul 12,2018 9:09 pm || Up

      Back tightness.

      I mean, its part of the game. anderson and mccarthy went down in 2012. can’t feel good, but its not something to feel bad about

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  95. Glorious Mundy Jul 12,2018 9:19 pm

    Pujols just tied Rickey on the all time hit list. :(

    Tied Griffey on the homer list on the same swing.

    • Glorious Mundy Jul 12,2018 9:32 pm || Up

      Who finishes with more hits:

      Beltre (3,112)
      Pujols (3,055)

  96. Soaker Jul 12,2018 9:31 pm

    Mac users:

    I bought a Windows 10 notebook last year and have seen enough of Windows 10 to know I don’t want it when I replace the Windows 7 desktop.

    I decided to do what people told me to do 20 years ago, which is buy an iMac. Here’s what they offer on their site. The 21.5-inch monitor is fine; that’s what I have now. That 4K display would be good, and the other upgrade I was considering for speed would be the 256GB solid-state drive. I’m currently using 57GB out of the 1TB on the Win7 machine, so I don’t think I need to go to 512GB. So I’d probably buy that middle one with the base 3.0GHz processor and the base 8GB of memory, so that prices at $1499 with the SSD. Does that sound like an adequate configuration?

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • andeux Jul 12,2018 9:47 pm || Up

      Probably.
      The SSD is a good call. Beyond that, if you’re not a serious gamer or making movies even lower-end computers are plenty fast these days.
      MacRumors says new models may be out in the fall, if you can wait a few months.

      TINSTAAFK
      • dmoas Jul 13,2018 9:31 am || Up

        Might just be me, but I’m not a fan of the solid state drive. At least not without a secondary drive to keep your important things on. When they die, they do so slowly stealing away files with it. And if something gets deleted, it’s a whole hell of a lot harder to recover it than with traditional drives.

    • MikeV Jul 12,2018 9:52 pm || Up

      More RAM is always better. You cannot upgrade it later, because it’s all soldered to the main board on a Mac.

      I absolutely FKin hate them for consumer use. Turns out they are also terrible for business use. GREAT if you’re doing A/V stuff, or music, or photo editing, or…

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

      • ptbnl Jul 13,2018 12:17 am || Up

        or …

        academia

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • Soaker Jul 13,2018 6:20 am || Up

        Note that the 21.5-inch iMac comes with 8GB of memory built into the computer. If you think you may need more memory in the future, it may be preferable to upgrade at the time of purchase. Memory can only be upgraded by an Apple Authorized Service Provider if you choose to upgrade at a later date.

        Nevertheless, agreed about more RAM = better. For this amount of money I want the thing to be current at least through the end of Trump’s second term, and dealing with it up front avoids angst over future OS upgrades.

        What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
        • nevermoor Jul 30,2018 1:19 pm || Up

          Yeah. For regular use, RAM = browser windows open and SSDs = no load time for anything ever.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • colin Jul 13,2018 8:04 am || Up

      I bought an iMac in 2010 and was still using it actively in 2016. It has fallen into disuse over the last couple of years, but I think it would still be running fine if I needed it.

      • andeux Jul 13,2018 9:58 am || Up

        My 2008 iMac feels a little slow (even after adding RAM, which was easy), but runs fine.
        My 2011 MacBook Air is still perfectly fast.

        TINSTAAFK
        • colin Jul 13,2018 9:59 am || Up

          Yeah, the main reason I stopped using my 2010 iMac is that I decided to just used the 2014 MacBook Air for everything and it is awesome.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 13,2018 8:04 am || Up

      The Nurse is a Mac devotee, unfortunately. The mid-level config plus the 512 GB is exactly what we went with last year and it works well for all needs including some higher end photoshop stuff.

      Avoid using iTunes for your music because you can never go back and it’s torture why oh why did I ever let it happen.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • 5Aces Jul 13,2018 9:02 am || Up

        This single thing has kept me out of the Apple universe. I was fortunate enough to have copies of everything that I was able to salvage after I gave up on iTunes, but it was a pain in the neck and some stuff I just had to give up on and go track down again.

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • Soaker Jul 13,2018 2:58 pm || Up

      Thanks for the input, the order has been placed. I’d have to change something significant about the way I use the computer to exceed 256GB, developing a porn addiction or something, but there’s always external storage.

      View post on imgur.com

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  97. Glorious Mundy Jul 13,2018 10:45 am

    According to Fangraphs, Trayce Thompson’s wRC+ for this year is -5. I didn’t know it was even possible to go negative.

    • colin Jul 13,2018 10:56 am || Up

      It evidently goes down to -100, which is what Manaea (0-for-1), Blackburn (0-for-2), and Montas (0-for-3) all have.

      • Glorious Mundy Jul 13,2018 11:04 am || Up

        Edwin Jackson shows at -100 as well, despite not having a plate appearance yet. He stands at (positive) 9 for his career.

        • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 13,2018 4:24 pm || Up

          He has 49 career hits and two homers, I’m expecting big things.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  98. MikeV Jul 13,2018 3:46 pm

    So…

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

    • ptbnl Jul 13,2018 3:52 pm || Up

      Well he’s just missed out on Xherdan Shaqiri.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • Glorious Mundy Jul 13,2018 7:28 pm || Up

      Barf

      I say this with an incredible amount of respect — this is some of the way I perceived the Giants teams that won those World Series, when they put together that core. Solid guys, professionals. This team is obviously far less accomplished than that Giants core, but it reminds me of the way they go about it, the way I perceived some of those Giants guys.

  99. Glorious Mundy Jul 13,2018 4:41 pm

    Hmmm

  100. AV Jul 31,2018 6:23 am

    * judgment

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.

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