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Winter Meetings Grill 266

The Winter Meetings start today. Beane and Forst are still hunting outfielders.

Slusser posits that Lowrie is the A’s most likely trade chip.

Eno Sarris thinks the A’s should sign Jay Bruce, who he says is not Billy Butler.

In stadium non-news, Matier and Ross have Dave Kaval blowing off Scott McKibben regarding restarting Coliseum talks:

McKibben doesn’t necessarily buy the A’s pessimism about the Coliseum, saying any development there will get done far faster and cheaper than one downtown.

However, he isn’t getting a warm reception from the team.

Kaval has been silent publicly since the Laney College site collapsed, a development that the team said left it “shocked.” McKibben sent him a text, inviting him to sit down and talk “once the dust settles.”

“The dust has settled,” Kaval texted back. “There is no reason to meet.”

Sounds bad.

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266 thoughts on “Winter Meetings Grill

  1. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 11,2017 11:14 am

    Hey, we have a power bat!

    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 12,2017 9:41 am || Up
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 12,2017 10:09 am || Up

        That makes no sense. I can see the A’s holding out for a strong offer, but off the table completely? Hopefully that’s BS.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  2. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 11,2017 11:29 am

    YEAH JEETS!

  3. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 11,2017 11:37 am
  4. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 11,2017 11:57 am

    If the A’s decide the Coliseum may be an option after all, there’s no particular reason for them to say so right away.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 11,2017 12:29 pm || Up

      Public and governmental relations are reasons they should say it fairly quickly, unless they are going to pull some kind of a Laney or Montreal shenanigans.

      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 11,2017 2:21 pm || Up

        I doubt the A’s are feeling much urge to support the local pols whom the team feels helped sink the Laney site by way of lack of support. And after a full year of the team’s best local public relations effort in decades.

        I hope the A’s get back to considering the Coliseum site, and I think there’s a good chance they will. But for right now, my take is that the A’s perceive that the same Coliseum site deal available today will be there a year from now. So tactically why not make the local pols offer more first.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • andeux andeux Dec 11,2017 2:59 pm || Up

          Fair point, but hearing them say all this now is pretty discouraging.
          When they announced the Laney plans (or maybe even before) I commented that the Coliseum plan would likely be easier to get done, but Laney would be a better site IF they could pull it off. (And from the team’s point of view, SJ was in that latter category as well.) Now they’re suggesting that the financing to get something built at the Coliseum might not be there. Even if that’s partly posturing, it’s not really what the fans want or need to hear.

          TINSTAAFK
          • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 11,2017 3:02 pm || Up

            Also, right up until the Laney announcement they were running a survey that treated Laney, the Coli, and HT as viable options. So now they are telling us that the Coliseum wasn’t viable after all? I don’t buy it.

        • dmoas Dec 11,2017 3:13 pm || Up

          Agreed on that one. There’s no rush. They’re currently not looking like the bad guys. They’re not making threats to leave (so far). They’re not doing any sort of ultimatum stuff. So it’s not really hurting their brand at all to effectively stay quite about their future while they sniff around. Quite the opposite, financially it’s in their best interest to wait that out. Once the Raiders & Warriors take off, they still have a long term lease there and the City/County still needs to pay the loan off. The loan pay off will be a few million less. And with that, possibly the price, especially given what little resources they’ll have to pay it off with (two fewer tenants and a brand new arena across the bay to compete with).

      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 14,2017 10:53 am || Up

        “First and foremost, we are committed to being in Oakland and staying in our city.” Note also comments from Wasserman and Ghielmetti, two very heavy hitters in Oakland politics.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  5. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 11,2017 2:02 pm

    Andrew Baggarly on covering the Winter Meetings

    I’ve been in my share of suites and they are not created equal. One year, when Ned Colletti was still the Giants assistant GM, he welcomed us to their war room, lined with scotch bottles and beer and chafing dishes and what I presume was the entire snack-food aisle purchased from the Publix six miles away, and proclaimed that there was a one-drink minimum before anyone could ask a question. He was probably joking. It was a free drink. So we chose to assume that he wasn’t.

    It so happened that I had to pull double-duty and cover the A’s that year. Billy Beane’s suite was next. There was a table, a couch, two cases of bottled water stacked on the floor and a bag of pretzel twists. Billy had a prerequisite to ask a question, too, but his was a bit different. First, you had to tell him what Sabes was up to.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 11,2017 2:29 pm || Up

      That is hilarious. I thought the punchline would be reporters stocking the clubhouse soda machine.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  6. andeux andeux Dec 11,2017 3:05 pm


    DFA’d last week.

    TINSTAAFK
  7. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 11,2017 4:11 pm

    Me neither tbh

  8. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 11,2017 5:18 pm

    I wish we could at least get some decent rumors. Stephen Piscotty talk is not going to get my blood flowing.

    • MikeV MikeV Dec 11,2017 7:40 pm || Up

      tephen Piscotty talk is not going to get my blood flowing.

      His defense isn’t very good, but at least he’s a bad hitter.

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

      • Future Ed Future Ed Dec 11,2017 8:58 pm || Up

        I don’t get this

        new guy, placeholder, joyce
        chapman, semien, lowrie, olson
        maxwell/phegley

        pinder, canha, nunez, davis

        why?

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • MikeV MikeV Dec 11,2017 9:25 pm || Up

          Wow that’s a FKing bad lineup. It’s like Billy’s trying to have a shitty outfield on purpose.

          And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

          Thanks, and go As.

        • ptbnl Dec 11,2017 11:15 pm || Up

          It’s Jeter’s fault.

          If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
        • lenscrafters Dec 12,2017 8:41 am || Up

          Even without the uncertainty around Maxwell’s off the field issues, catcher seems like the biggest problem to me.

          • andeux andeux Dec 12,2017 10:07 am || Up

            Agreed. I’m not sold on Maxwell as a starter.

            OF is pretty bad too though. Steamer projections for wOBA:
            Joyce .337, Powell .315, Fowler .298, Canha .311, Pinder .298, Nunez .289

            Joyce is the only above-average hitter, and his defense is not great. Fowler and Pinder might both do a lot better than those projections, but it’s not something we should rely on. The rest is a bunch of meh.

            TINSTAAFK
            • MikeV MikeV Dec 12,2017 1:35 pm || Up

              That’s FKing horrific.

              Also I don’t think Joyce will hit that well.

              And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

              Thanks, and go As.

          • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 12,2017 10:33 am || Up

            It will be tempting to rush Murphy. His defense seems ready, but he may never be ready with the bat.

    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 12,2017 6:48 pm || Up

      BORING

      • Future Ed Future Ed Dec 12,2017 6:55 pm || Up

        I mean, maybe a bounce back candidate. I can’t imagine he is going to cost anything. he is owed a lot and sucks

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 13,2017 11:35 am || Up

          Sounds like this is happening

          St. Louis is looking for prospects off Oakland’s 40-man roster and while the A’s will not discuss any of their top young players, one name that has been discussed, according to one industry source, is infielder Yairo Munoz.

          Per Slusser, the Cardinals are going to get Ozuna, and then we will take Piscotty off their hands.

          • andeux andeux Dec 13,2017 12:39 pm || Up

            Updated

            The Cardinals have interest in relief help, too, and have asked about Liam Hendriks previously. Frankie Montas, who is out of options, is another possibility. Power-hitting corner infielder Renato Nunez also is out of options.

            TINSTAAFK
      • andeux andeux Dec 13,2017 11:39 am || Up

        Sounds like this will likely happen.

        I guess I’m more positive about it than the rest of you. Not exciting, no. But he has a good chance to be an average player, which is an upgrade over our current outfield, and < $7M/year is not really a lot of money. (He's signed for five years, so it's a lot of money total if he tanks and isn't worth a roster spot at all, but that doesn't seem that likely.) Seems like a better bet than Avisail Garcia.

        TINSTAAFK
  9. lenscrafters Dec 12,2017 8:42 am

    Headley -> Padres. With holes at 2nd and 3rd now, maybe Lowrie could be an option for the Yankees?

  10. doctorK doctorK Dec 12,2017 9:27 am

    RIP Mayor Lee

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 12,2017 10:05 am || Up

      I met Ed Lee once, at all places at the new Niners stadium, on a tour before construction was completed. I have a lot of respect for the way he transitioned from lifelong bureaucrat (not a perjorative) to elected official while staying true to himself, more or less. I value a municipal leader who knows what running a city actually entails.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  11. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 12,2017 11:05 am

    • Future Ed Future Ed Dec 12,2017 11:47 am || Up

      he can’t play center garden anymore

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • 5Aces 5Aces Dec 12,2017 1:10 pm || Up

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 12,2017 1:12 pm || Up

        I’m more worried that he can’t hit anymore.

  12. lenscrafters Dec 12,2017 11:55 am

    Interesting Sherman speculation on Graveman/Manaea to the Yankees (Warning: NY Post link)

    I’m not opposed to this idea. I find it really hard to envision a team that’s headed to the playoffs with a rotation led by Manaea and Graveman. Unless you’re very optimistic on Cotton/Mengden/Gossett, etc turning it around, this is a staff with injury issues (and quite frankly, averageness) at the top and #5 starters at 3,4,5. And it’s rounded out with poor quality MLB ready depth beyond that (Triggs, Alcantara, Hahn).

    So I’m in favor of blowing it up. Get guys from the Yankees that can come up with the Puk/Holmes/Shore/Kaprielian timeline. If we can get Florial, Frazier, Adams, and Abreu from the Yankees for Manaea, Graveman, and Lowrie, I wouldn’t feel bad about it.

    • Future Ed Future Ed Dec 12,2017 12:03 pm || Up

      so, the 2016-17 A’s rotation CAN win a world series.

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 12,2017 12:08 pm || Up

        Heh heh.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  13. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 12,2017 12:54 pm

    That sucks. I really want to know how many votes Saban gets.

  14. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 12,2017 1:15 pm

  15. andeux andeux Dec 12,2017 3:23 pm

    Sounds like he won’t be back on the postgame show this year.

    TINSTAAFK
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 12,2017 3:32 pm || Up

      What a fucking clod.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 12,2017 3:47 pm || Up

      Do I want to know what he said?

      • andeux andeux Dec 12,2017 3:49 pm || Up

        Not really, but curiosity will get the better of you anyway.

        TINSTAAFK
        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 12,2017 3:51 pm || Up

          Yup.

          He is a painfully stupid man.

          • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 12,2017 7:29 pm || Up

            It’s going around.

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Soaker Soaker Dec 12,2017 4:01 pm || Up

        I was hoping for some idiocy about Hitler but it was what I expected.

  16. AV AV Dec 12,2017 3:36 pm

    shit there

    in case there’s any confusion.

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  17. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 12,2017 3:52 pm

    Even Roy Moore thinks these kids are a little young.

  18. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 12,2017 5:54 pm

    Thing’s I never knew: Minor league baseball presents an annual Chief Bender Award for distinguished service in player development. Grady Fuson just won it.

    Also from Chief Bender’s wiki page: “fans often made war whoops or yelled taunts…After an inning in which [Bender] had pitched particularly well, he might yell back, “Foreigners! Foreigners!””

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  19. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 12,2017 6:28 pm

    The NY Times speedometer election tracker needle thingy is drunk right now.

    • AV AV Dec 12,2017 7:04 pm || Up

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • Soaker Soaker Dec 12,2017 7:11 pm || Up

      Is this going to be Bush-Gore in Florida again? Sigh.

      • Future Ed Future Ed Dec 12,2017 7:14 pm || Up

        NO! ITS GOING TO BE A’S SIGN CESPEDES!!!!!

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 12,2017 7:19 pm || Up

          JONES TAKES THE LEAD

          • Soaker Soaker Dec 12,2017 7:24 pm || Up

            With the Saban/Malzahn vote currently larger than the Jones/Moore difference.

            • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 12,2017 7:25 pm || Up

              It’s all coming together.

            • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 12,2017 9:21 pm || Up

              Final margin: 1.5%
              Write-in: 1.7%

              • Soaker Soaker Dec 12,2017 9:27 pm || Up

                As a voter in a NOTA state I love that stuff.

                I assume Senator Jones will operate in the tradition of the Boll Weevil Democrats of the Reagan years, but it’s certainly the better result.

                • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 12,2017 9:32 pm || Up

                  He named checked his “mentor” Howell Heflin in his victory speech, so I suppose that is possible.

              • Soaker Soaker Dec 12,2017 9:56 pm || Up

                About 23K write-ins. I hope somebody, a blogger or whomever, does go to the effort to count those.

                I will guess:
                Nick Saban: 10K
                Gus Malzahn: 4K
                Something like “ROLL TIDE” or “WAR EAGLE”: 300

                • Soaker Soaker Dec 13,2017 11:25 am || Up

                  Maybe we won’t need the blogger, because of that write-ins > victory margin figure.

                  As for write-in ballots, the secretary of state’s office will notify counties on Dec. 18 whether they have to be counted. A state law says that if the margin of victory in a race exceeds the number of write-in votes, they are not counted.

                  County canvassing boards will count provisional ballots, overseas ballots and write-in ballots, if necessary, on Dec. 19. Counties must report results to the secretary of state’s office by Dec. 22.

                • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 19,2017 2:04 pm || Up

                  Saban got 8 votes in Morgan County.

                  Other notables include the Duck Dynasty guy with 4, Jeff Sessions with 3, and Ronald Reagan, Condi Rice, “a competent conservative,” Bozo The Clown, and Buddy the Elf each with 1.

                • Soaker Soaker Dec 22,2017 4:08 pm || Up

                  It looks like Saban will finish either 5th or 6th; he is approximately tied with Jeff Sessions with some counties yet to report. Saban will be well ahead of Jesus Christ, Robert E. Lee, SpongeBob Square Pants and Jimmy Buffett, among others.

                • Soaker Soaker Dec 28,2017 5:37 pm || Up

                  Full list now up (430-page PDF with county-by-county results and in some cases separate pages for various precincts). In Madison County (Huntsville), I see that “Not Listed Due to Graphic Language” (3) trailed Jesus Christ (11) but defeated the formidable combination of God (1) and God Almighty (1).

          • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 12,2017 7:26 pm || Up

            REDDICK IS GETTING THE PIE!

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 12,2017 7:15 pm || Up

        I can’t even imagine what a shitshow that would be with this crowd involved.

        But it looks to me like Jones is going to win this by a clear point or two.

        • lenscrafters Dec 12,2017 7:27 pm || Up

          Holy shit…

          • AV AV Dec 12,2017 7:35 pm || Up

            i checked in a half hour ago and it looked other-which-way-wise. got so sad.

            not sad i started drinking early though!

            *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
            • Future Ed Future Ed Dec 12,2017 7:38 pm || Up

              7 PM is early?

              [looks around]

              um, yeah, totally

              I have $5. No I don\'t.
              • AV AV Dec 12,2017 7:46 pm || Up

                well, you should see the vat of scotch i dove into.

                *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 12,2017 8:11 pm || Up

                  I’ve been thoroughly enjoying my whisky advent calendar.

                  "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  20. Future Ed Future Ed Dec 12,2017 6:34 pm

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  21. Future Ed Future Ed Dec 12,2017 6:59 pm

    My clients do this all the time too

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  22. Future Ed Future Ed Dec 12,2017 7:14 pm

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  23. dmoas Dec 12,2017 11:51 pm
  24. ptbnl Dec 13,2017 7:39 am

    Even for someone as reality-challenged as the Trumpster fire, claiming that “the deck was stacked against” a Republican candidate in Alabama is a whole new level of delusion.

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • AV AV Dec 13,2017 10:20 am || Up

      mightily.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 13,2017 10:23 am || Up

      Well, the deck is sort of stacked against any candidate associated with Trump at the moment.

  25. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 13,2017 11:41 am

  26. Soaker Soaker Dec 13,2017 12:33 pm

    Julian McWilliams (not Slusser or Jane Lee) is the new fulltime A’s beat writer for The Athletic.

    There’s a link to a free trial at the bottom of the story, if you want to snoop around and see what they’re up to.

    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 13,2017 12:47 pm || Up

      I hope Slusser parlayed that open position into a raise.

      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 13,2017 6:06 pm || Up

        I’m hopeful that the Chron appreciates that Slusser is the best (and best known) daily reporter on the whole paper, and also that Slusser likes her life as is and doesn’t want to look elsewhere. Being able to successfully retire on one’s own terms from a print daily is rarified air these days.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  27. andeux andeux Dec 13,2017 6:57 pm

    Kinsler -> Angels

    TINSTAAFK
  28. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 13,2017 9:12 pm

  29. aardvark Dec 14,2017 8:57 am

    Piscotty trade is official. Yairo Munoz and Max Schrock to Cards. According to Jane Lee

  30. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 14,2017 9:11 am

    Are these really the stats you want to be advertising?

    • Soaker Soaker Dec 14,2017 10:50 am || Up

      Difficult to say without coming off as harsh, but objectively: It sounds like his mother’s medical situation was a major consideration in this trade, and as long as that remains an issue it would be very difficult to trade him to anyone but the Giants. I hope he turns into a right-handed Reddick so that’s never an issue.

      • andeux andeux Dec 14,2017 10:53 am || Up

        Definitely a major consideration in the trade, but also maybe a consideration in last year’s performance.

        TINSTAAFK
        • MikeV MikeV Dec 14,2017 11:14 am || Up

          Without sounding like a dick, I don’t understand how it’s going to change this year.

          ALS doesn’t go away.

          And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

          Thanks, and go As.

          • dmoas Dec 14,2017 11:43 am || Up

            Technically it does go away. Just… not in the most convenient method. But being closer to her may help. Or make it significantly worse.

    • Future Ed Future Ed Dec 14,2017 8:56 pm || Up

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 14,2017 10:00 pm || Up

        One of us! One of us!

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 15,2017 11:13 am || Up

          Hell yeah

  31. andeux andeux Dec 14,2017 9:37 am

    Also lost Brett Graves in the Rule 5 draft to the Jeters.

    TINSTAAFK
    • vignette17 Dec 14,2017 1:09 pm || Up

      Maybe we can negotiate them not having to return Graves in return for Yelich.

  32. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 14,2017 1:22 pm

  33. andeux andeux Dec 14,2017 2:00 pm
    TINSTAAFK
    • Soaker Soaker Dec 14,2017 4:15 pm || Up

      If you have time, the full KCIR report is worth reading.

  34. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 15,2017 10:59 am

    Current back-of-envelope team status:

    Lineup: OK. Dingers.
    Defense: Possibly competent outfield, elite corner infield, very limited dp combo, sketchy but better-than-Vogt catching
    Bullpen: Better but still not great
    Rotation: Fragile, mediocre

    Hard to see this team contending for another year or two, at least until the starting pitching starts to arrive from the minors.

    • MikeV MikeV Dec 15,2017 11:33 am || Up

      What, 3 good hitters? The Matts and Khris? Lowrie is OK if he stays, Semien is OK.

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

      • andeux andeux Dec 15,2017 11:47 am || Up

        Joyce is at least in the OK group, borderline good.

        TINSTAAFK
        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 15,2017 11:54 am || Up

          With the caveat that he can’t hit lefties.

        • vignette17 Dec 15,2017 2:04 pm || Up

          Same with Piscotty.

          • MikeV MikeV Dec 15,2017 2:45 pm || Up

            I’m unconvinced.

            And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

            Thanks, and go As.

    • andeux andeux Dec 15,2017 11:37 am || Up

      sketchy but better-than-Vogt catching

      At best slightly better. Maxwell and Phegley were both better than Vogt at controlling the running game, but worse at blocking pitches.

      TINSTAAFK
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 15,2017 11:59 am || Up

        Basically this team can’t be actually good until and unless Murphy, Puk, Holmes, Kaprelian, Barreto, Mateo, and Fowler all make it.

  35. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 15,2017 11:01 am

    Dammit

    • colin colin Dec 15,2017 11:16 am || Up

      That seems like a good deal, even if you assume that his 2017 offense was a fluke.

      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 15,2017 11:57 am || Up

        The only thing that’s weird is that they already have the world’s best defensive shortstop.

        • colin colin Dec 15,2017 1:01 pm || Up

          If they go ahead and trade Simmons to the A’s, I would be just fine with it.

        • elcroata elcroata Dec 15,2017 2:16 pm || Up

          He’ll probably move to third. And the annoying thing is that the Reds didn’t extend him the QO, so no draft picks.

          All I can say about stats is… SCOTT BROSIUS!!
    • andeux andeux Dec 15,2017 11:38 am || Up

      edfa is sad.

      TINSTAAFK
  36. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 15,2017 1:59 pm

    Fresno manners

    Asked for comment on Thursday, Representative Devin Nunes of California, the Intelligence Committee’s chairman, said, “Not a chance I’m ever going to talk to you.”

  37. Future Ed Future Ed Dec 15,2017 7:25 pm

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  38. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 15,2017 7:39 pm

    Fowler, traded to the Oakland Athletics in July, suffered “severe and permanent” internal and external injuries, as well as mental pain and anguish, according to the suit.

    • Future Ed Future Ed Dec 15,2017 7:46 pm || Up

      damages are pretty speculative, yeah?

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 15,2017 8:04 pm || Up

        I guess it depends on whether he seems to have made a full recovery this year? Maybe he could get an expert to say what the average guy with his prospect ranking could expect to make over the course of a career.

        I hate it when news stories don’t link to the pleading they are writing about.

  39. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 15,2017 8:10 pm
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 18,2017 10:59 am || Up
      • nevermoor nevermoor Dec 18,2017 1:15 pm || Up

        Couldn’t we have done all of this in 2013?

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  40. Future Ed Future Ed Dec 16,2017 12:03 pm

    Can we turn kendall graveman into something good?

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • andeux andeux Dec 16,2017 12:22 pm || Up

      Those five players combined for around $70M in salary last year.
      McCarthy (0.7 WAR) had the most value.

      TINSTAAFK
  41. ptbnl Dec 17,2017 2:46 pm

    Ralph Carney :-(

    Fell down his stairs at 61.

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  42. Soaker Soaker Dec 17,2017 8:54 pm

    Well that was a paper-thin margin of loss for the Raiders.

    I was looking at the NFL tiebreaker rules earlier. Buffalo can get a wild-card at 9-7 (doesn’t matter which game they win but one is more likely), but the other result they would need is Jacksonville winning at Tennessee on the final Sunday.

    • Soaker Soaker Dec 17,2017 10:09 pm || Up

      This is my favorite example of the fumble into and out of the end zone for a touchback at the end of the game:

      https://youtube.com/watch?v=VG-2q42i8U4%3Fstart%3D9993” frameborder=”0″ gesture=”media” allow=”encrypted-media” allowfullscreen>

      —Hmph, link embed not working correctly; go to 2:46:33 on the video to see the relevant play—

    • Soaker Soaker Dec 18,2017 11:00 am || Up

      Re-calculating the “Strength of Victory” tiebreaker, which I assume to be total number of wins by the opponents they have defeated, it’s closer than I thought. If Tennessee beats the Rams but loses to Jacksonville, then Buffalo probably needs to beat the Patriots instead of Miami, because New England adds more opponents’ wins than Miami does. It would fall to that tiebreaker because both Buffalo and Tennessee would be 9-7 overall and 7-5 in conference. I’m assuming Baltimore gets 10 wins and the first wild card.

      • andeux andeux Dec 18,2017 12:30 pm || Up

        No, if Buffalo beats Miami, Buffalo (4-1) would be Tennessee (3-2) vs. common opponents (Miami, Indy, Oakland, Cincy).
        There’s a full breakdown of all scenarios here. What you said above covers the most likely cases.

        TINSTAAFK
        • Soaker Soaker Dec 18,2017 1:01 pm || Up

          This stuff causes short circuits between my ears and I ought to have figured out by now that I shouldn’t bother trying.

        • andeux andeux Dec 24,2017 1:39 pm || Up

          Bills now need:
          (Bills beat Miami) AND ((Bengals beat Ravens) OR ((Jaguars beat Titans) AND (Raiders beat Chargers)))

          So both scenarios – missing the playoffs by choking away a winnable game, and missing the playoffs by losing a tiebreaker – are very much alive. In particular, my playoff hopes could come down to needing help from the Raiders in next week’s afternoon game.

          TINSTAAFK
  43. colin colin Dec 18,2017 11:30 am

    Interesting piece on Baseball Prospectus arguing that everyone has been doing a bad job of measuring the effectiveness of shifts, and that they might actually hurt run prevention in part because pitchers throw more balls when the defense behind them is shifted.

    I’m not totally convinced one way or the other. It seems super hard to get a good measure on something that is deployed as a tactic, because the managers who call for the shift are explicitly doing it in a biased, non-random way. And despite having a large sample size, once you start trying to control for sample biases it can be tough to differentiate between random fluctuations and real effects.

    • Future Ed Future Ed Dec 18,2017 1:25 pm || Up

      How aware are the pitchers?

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • colin colin Dec 18,2017 1:45 pm || Up

        I’m sure that pitchers know when the infielders are shifted behind them. And I think they usually adjust pitch selection to encourage ground balls. So it’s totally possible that this could throw off the pitcher’s command.

  44. Future Ed Future Ed Dec 18,2017 6:25 pm

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 19,2017 10:47 am || Up

      He’s about to turn 25, so one hopes he’ll be on the fast track to something.

      Dan Feinstein:

      “He’s very athletic, and a true 80 runner with the ability to play all three outfield spots. Profiles as leadoff hitter who will occasionally put one in the seats. Dairon’s had quite a layoff, so we’ll take our time getting him re-acclimated to a baseball environment in the DR, and hopefully we’ll see him in Arizona sometime this spring.”

    • aardvark Dec 19,2017 8:24 pm || Up

      From BA:

      After a rough start to the 2015-16 season, which ended in April, Blanco rebounded to finish the year hitting .296/.351/.427 in 373 plate appearances with 29 walks and 42 strikeouts. An 80 runner on the 20-80 scouting scale, Blanco tied for the league lead in stolen bases with 29 steals in 33 attempts and led Serie Nacional with eight triples.

      At 6 feet, 175 pounds, Blanco is an excellent athlete who has been a solid performer in Cuba, though he’s still more raw tools than baseball skills and would have to start his career in the minor leagues. He can beat out infield hits to first base in under 4.0 seconds from the right side of the plate, but he hasn’t shown natural hitting rhythm and actions. Blanco split his time between center and right field in 2015-16, and while his defensive instincts looked shaky at times, he did win a gold glove during the 2014-15 season.

  45. Soaker Soaker Dec 18,2017 6:26 pm

    The Lesson of the Day appears to be that putting a 45°, 30 mph curve in the middle of your new “high-speed” rail line is not the best engineering design.

  46. Future Ed Future Ed Dec 18,2017 9:19 pm

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  47. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 19,2017 8:48 am

    A walk dance down memory lane. The photo gallery includes good shots of Dave Stewart, Barry Zito, and Bill King, among others.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  48. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 19,2017 1:49 pm

    Neat.

    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 20,2017 1:06 pm || Up

      Wow

      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 20,2017 1:23 pm || Up

        They counted this for the Republican in the House of Delegates race, making it a tie. You can infer that this was a straight GOP voter, but still pretty questionable.

        • dmoas Dec 20,2017 1:44 pm || Up

          In our work, we’d throw that question out for that case. You can’t make the assumption that it’s a straight liner. And, especially considering they Xed the other person, you can’t make the assumption that the line was intended to cross it out. And I can’t imagine a legal standard that would ever back up the assumption that they intended to vote for the Republican.

          • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 20,2017 1:47 pm || Up

            I was inclined to accept the line through the Simonds bubble as an indication that the voter goofed and intended to vote Yancey, but then I looked at the two lines through the Gillespie bubble, which was presumably counted in the governor’s race.

            • dmoas Dec 20,2017 4:01 pm || Up

              The Gillespie bubble likely would have held just because you can infer, without any other evidence to suggest otherwise, that they simply misread the instructions on the first one and accidentally checked it rather than filled it in. Not so much elsewhere. That first one in connection with the second one makes it impossible to fairly interpret what they intended for the House delegate.

        • AV AV Dec 20,2017 4:46 pm || Up

          iono. that ballot looks like a fairly clear tie.

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • andeux andeux Dec 21,2017 10:32 am || Up
          TINSTAAFK
      • doctorK doctorK Dec 20,2017 4:53 pm || Up

        I guess in Virginia, the playoffs really are a crap-shoot.

        • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 4,2018 4:39 pm || Up

          The Democrats’ shit didn’t work in the lot drawing.

          • dmoas Jan 4,2018 5:47 pm || Up

            That whole situation was such bullshit.

        • andeux andeux Jan 4,2018 6:46 pm || Up

          The judges who thought that ballot was an unambiguous vote for the Republican must moonlight as NFL replay officials.

          TINSTAAFK
  49. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 19,2017 1:49 pm

  50. ptbnl Dec 19,2017 1:52 pm

    Beane comes away from the winter meetings with part-ownership of Barnsley.

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 19,2017 2:13 pm || Up

      Excellent crest

      • ptbnl Dec 19,2017 4:39 pm || Up

        Though I’m not sure about a white shirt in a coal mine.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
        • Future Ed Future Ed Dec 19,2017 6:45 pm || Up

          444

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • aardvark Dec 19,2017 8:30 pm || Up

  51. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 19,2017 5:54 pm

    I says our rotation could use a buff young fellow:

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  52. Future Ed Future Ed Dec 19,2017 7:09 pm

    JEETS!

    (warning sbnation link)

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  53. MikeV MikeV Dec 20,2017 8:53 am

    wat

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

    • Future Ed Future Ed Dec 20,2017 11:15 am || Up

      that helps the giants?

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Future Ed Future Ed Dec 20,2017 11:21 am || Up

      oh, just saw span. yes, that’s good for them.

      Although I think this makes them the SF white giants again.

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  54. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 20,2017 12:31 pm
  55. ptbnl Dec 20,2017 2:20 pm

    Bristol City FTW!

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  56. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 20,2017 8:23 pm

  57. andeux andeux Dec 21,2017 10:22 am

    “American Vandal” on Netflix is great.
    Why was I not informed of this?
    Also, Peaky fuckin’ Blinders is back.

    TINSTAAFK
    • colin colin Dec 21,2017 2:27 pm || Up

      I’m about halfway through American Vandal and I totally agree #whodrewallthedicks?

    • elcroata elcroata Dec 21,2017 3:05 pm || Up

      I loved it, yes

      All I can say about stats is… SCOTT BROSIUS!!
  58. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 21,2017 12:08 pm

    I finally watched “The Force Awakens.”

    My ice cold take: meh

    • AV AV Dec 21,2017 12:35 pm || Up

      completely agree.

      and i haven’t even seen it yet.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • AV AV Dec 21,2017 12:44 pm || Up

        i don’t know why i wrote “yet.”

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • MikeV MikeV Dec 21,2017 12:55 pm || Up

      The new one was significantly better than The Force Awakens.

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 21,2017 12:59 pm || Up

        The acting in The Force Awakens was outstanding (apart from Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher tbh). The writing was kind of bad though. Not prequels bad, but like an uninspired cover version of the original.

        Those four actors with a better script and director could be dynamite.

        • colin colin Dec 21,2017 2:27 pm || Up

          “cover version of A New Hope” is a very apt description

          • dmoas Dec 21,2017 7:36 pm || Up

            Wasn’t a particularly good cover either. While I liked John Boyega’s part, it hit a nerve every time he got excited and channeled Will Smith. Any time he wasn’t doing that, he was great. Fisher wasn’t around long enough to be good or bad, Ford probably phoned in because fuck it. But overall, yeah, it was listless and uninspiring.

            • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 21,2017 7:40 pm || Up

              I actually went to that movie for the sole purpose of catching some sleep before a long drive. It didn’t disappoint.

              "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
            • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 21,2017 7:44 pm || Up

              The moment I realized it was bad was when Oscar Isaac’s character shows up again, and the only explanation is “I was thrown from the wreckage!”

            • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 21,2017 7:52 pm || Up

              I also found the basic premise of the film confusing. After the fall of the empire, there is a new republic? This empire clone called the first order is opposing the republic, but the republic still exists, right? So why would there be a “resistance”? Is Leia a general in the resistance, or in the republic, or both?

              • dmoas Dec 22,2017 1:58 pm || Up

                I read a weird primer that’s not really worth hunting for but the explanation was something along the lines of the First Order is a nation of it’s own, the Resistance is a group working to subvert the First Order on behalf of the New Republic (independently?), which is a second nation. And magically the First Order blew up the entire New Republic.

                But yeah, so much of the story was horribly rushed. Spread out within a trilogy of it’s own, maybe, MAYBE, it could all make sense. But I doubt it. All built into a single film that was basically a clone of a previous one was agonizingly stupid. There’s so much wrong with it that the set up of who’s who really didn’t matter much.

      • 5Aces 5Aces Dec 26,2017 10:05 am || Up

        Totally agree. The people who are trashing it because it did things actually a bit different than their pre conceived notions are nuts. I may actually see it again in the theater.

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  59. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 21,2017 1:10 pm

    Bed bait

    • AV AV Jan 19,2018 8:18 pm || Up

      if you play it at 8:58:13 tonight…

      start off your shithouse shutdown right.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • ptbnl Jan 20,2018 4:58 am || Up

        I’m so FKed … and not in the good way.

        NASA, NSF and DOE grant offices will all be shut down, which means no funding come October.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
        • Future Ed Future Ed Jan 22,2018 8:58 am || Up

          “i’m sorry sir, your card was denied. We can’t let you use that oxygen tank”

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
  60. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 21,2017 1:16 pm
  61. sslinger Dec 21,2017 2:49 pm

    Happy solstice, FKers! Here’s to brighter days to come.

    • aardvark Dec 21,2017 4:14 pm || Up

      Thanks! See you tonight!

    • andeux andeux Dec 21,2017 11:26 pm || Up

      Happy solstice. I’m ready to hibernate now.

      TINSTAAFK
    • nevermoor nevermoor Dec 22,2017 3:51 pm || Up

      To you too!

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 22,2017 4:52 pm || Up

      I have never been so happy to see a year end.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Soaker Soaker Dec 22,2017 5:22 pm || Up

        Silver lining:

        Dow Jones Industrial Average: +25.25%
        S&P 500: +19.85%
        NASDAQ Composite: +29.29%

        That can go the other way fast, and it’s a good time to check and rebalance your stocks/bonds asset allocation, but you should be in a much better position financially for retirement than you were at the beginning of the year.

        • elcroata elcroata Dec 23,2017 3:24 am || Up

          Especially if it was in bitcoins

          All I can say about stats is… SCOTT BROSIUS!!
        • Soaker Soaker Dec 29,2017 3:58 pm || Up

          Using VTSAX (Vanguard Total Stock Market Index) with dividends reinvested as a proxy for “investing in US stocks”, 2017 ends at +21.15%, and total return since Election Day 2016 is +28.16%.

          Total returns for last four presidential terms (Election Day to Election Day):
          Obama 2nd: +61.83%
          Obama 1st: +59.89%
          Bush 2nd: -2.38%
          Bush 1st: -6.36% (using 12/13/2000 Gore concession as the start date)

          • doctorK doctorK Dec 30,2017 2:40 pm || Up

            So in other words, El Trumpador better hope for about +34% next year if he wants to equal Obama before he loses the Congress and gets impeached.

            • Soaker Soaker Dec 30,2017 8:55 pm || Up

              The Bush second term was humming along at a sweet +49.30% as late as October 9, 2007 before being sucked into the vortex of the financial crisis. I envision something similar in this term. The joy of corporate tax cuts is now old news and even if it were a “normal” presidency, the bull market is getting very old and we’re at a point in the economic cycle where inflation and Fed tightening are due to wreak some havoc on the stock market.

              • dmoas Jan 2,2018 9:25 am || Up

                With these idiots at the helm, I won’t be surprised if we have a great depression in store.

  62. aardvark Dec 21,2017 4:26 pm

    Minor League Ball has their A’s list out. Sickles doesn’t do as much scouting as BA or BP but it’s still interesting to get his perspective. Pretty similar to the BP list although Neuse is higher here.
    1. Baretto
    2. Puk
    3. Mateo
    4. Fowler
    5. Luzardo
    6. Beck
    7. Neuse
    8. Holmes
    9. Armenteros
    10. Murphy
    11. Kaprielian

    • MikeV MikeV Dec 21,2017 8:17 pm || Up

      I feel like the jump between A and B is FKing huge. How do you go from “grade A prospects should AT LEAST be regulars and have a good chance at becoming stars” to “grade B prospects end up spending several years in the majors, at least in a marginal role”

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

  63. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 22,2017 9:05 am

    RIP Dick Enberg

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 22,2017 1:54 pm || Up

      A real pro, and to all appearances a genuinely nice guy. Enberg never acted like he was the show, or bigger than the fans (unlike, say, that asshat Musberger). And Enberg called a good game. I’ll miss hearing his voice.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 22,2017 1:55 pm || Up

        My sentiments exactly. He had the ability to make a big event feel like a big event, and he was never boring, but it also was never about him.

      • doctorK doctorK Dec 22,2017 3:26 pm || Up

        I’ll miss hearing his voice.

        Expect for this: “ELWAY! ELWAY!”

  64. Future Ed Future Ed Dec 22,2017 11:51 am

    this is my life now

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 22,2017 12:47 pm || Up

      I don’t know how to change the password that came on my Sonic router. It’s 15 random numbers and letters and I have to crouch down under a table to look at the side of the thing every time.

      • ptbnl Dec 22,2017 12:57 pm || Up

        You can change it at gateway.sonic.net (though you’ll need the current password to do so).

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • AV AV Dec 22,2017 3:49 pm || Up

        lifehack for that: let your phone cam do kneeling and peering.

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • nevermoor nevermoor Dec 22,2017 3:53 pm || Up

          And then put that perfectly solid random password into your LastPass vault where it keeps securing your wifi but you don’t have to remember it.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • MikeV MikeV Dec 22,2017 4:31 pm || Up

            Until lastpass gets hacked :(

            And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

            Thanks, and go As.

        • 5Aces 5Aces Dec 26,2017 10:08 am || Up

          This is what I get for commenting before I finish reading the thread…

          Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
          • AV AV Dec 27,2017 6:09 pm || Up

            lifehack: chrome has the full-window screen grab. you can take a pic, read all the greens, come back to FK…

            KIDDING.

            *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • 5Aces 5Aces Dec 26,2017 10:07 am || Up

        Take a picture of it. It has saved me so much crouching. And I can text the pic to friends when they come over and save us all time and effort.

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  65. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 22,2017 1:21 pm

    Looks like I missed a lot of action in this Arsenal vs. Unknown Orange Team match.

    • ptbnl Dec 22,2017 2:19 pm || Up

      Conceding 3 goals in 5 minutes in a game you otherwise dominate should be enough to tell you who was in orange.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  66. Future Ed Future Ed Dec 22,2017 1:22 pm
    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  67. Soaker Soaker Dec 22,2017 4:24 pm

    March Fong Eu dies. Although my mother was a Republican, I recall her being a big supporter of Ms. Eu because of her position on one of the critical issues of the day.

    Eu quickly made a name for herself by taking up the issue of coin-locked toilets, saying that forcing women to fumble for pocket change was discriminatory.

    To make her point, she staged a publicity stunt in 1969 in which she bashed a toilet lock with a sledgehammer (and accidentally smashed the toilet as well).

    Though Eu was ridiculed by her male colleagues in the Legislature over the pay-toilet issue, in 1974, the same year that Gov. Ronald Reagan signed a bill banning pay toilets in public buildings, she used the issue in her bid to become secretary of state and received a record 3.4 million votes.

  68. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 22,2017 5:16 pm

    So much going on here:

    1. Legal analysis please: why is the City of Oakland liable here? Article says the jury found “…Brooks was acting within the scope of her employment as a city employee” when she assaulted plaintiff at a restaurant on a Friday night. That seems like an awful reach. Are elected officials acting as employees 24/7?
    2. Desley Brooks is the nastiest public official I have ever met. Routinely mean and vindictive in public and private, obstructive when not getting her way, and corrupt. Everyone is constantly terrified of her political thuggery; she’s like a black Huey Long.
    3. Making plaintiff Elaine Brown is the good guy here, ironic given that she may be a murderer and perhaps even worse gave us David Horowitz.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 27,2017 9:26 pm || Up

      This is a crazy ass story.

      I don’t get the scope of employment thing either. I guess it is because the fight was over a city government issue, and Brooks allegedly threatened to kill the housing application during the fight. Seems pretty questionable.

  69. Future Ed Future Ed Dec 22,2017 7:24 pm

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  70. elcroata elcroata Dec 23,2017 3:28 am
    All I can say about stats is… SCOTT BROSIUS!!
    • Future Ed Future Ed Dec 23,2017 11:27 am || Up

      I’n not a millionaire? fake news. give me tat bentley

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  71. MikeV MikeV Dec 24,2017 6:28 pm

    Niners might never lose again

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

  72. ptbnl Dec 24,2017 6:31 pm

    Festive
    Festivus
    To all ‘v us.

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • Future Ed Future Ed Dec 25,2017 10:10 am || Up

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 28,2017 3:11 pm || Up

        You could tell me that is a picture of a robot created in some Fox News lab, and I would believe you.

      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Jan 4,2018 7:34 am || Up

  73. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Dec 25,2017 10:02 am

    Merry Christmas FKers.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • MikeV MikeV Dec 25,2017 11:18 am || Up

      happy nondenominational wintertime holiday!

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

    • MikeV MikeV Dec 25,2017 11:21 am || Up

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

      • doctorK doctorK Dec 27,2017 12:24 pm || Up

        I love that Sullivan’s Twitter icon is the Lawn Dart.

    • Soaker Soaker Dec 25,2017 11:32 am || Up

      We have no snow on the ground at 6500′, except for a few pathetic patches in the shade, and none is expected to fall for the remainder of 2017. :-( I’m going for an afternoon hike in the balmy 50° sunshine.

      • colin colin Dec 25,2017 1:08 pm || Up

        White Christmas in Massachusetts and a cold snap is moving in tomorrow. Thursday forecast is for a South Pole-ish high temperature of +5°F.

    • andeux andeux Dec 25,2017 11:46 am || Up

      Happy Rickeymas!

      TINSTAAFK
  74. doctorK doctorK Dec 25,2017 8:48 pm

    Football is stupid.

    • 5Aces 5Aces Dec 26,2017 10:11 am || Up

      I’m actually at the point now where it means a slightly better draft position so go for it. Drop that pass! Throw into triple coverage!

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  75. 5Aces 5Aces Dec 26,2017 10:12 am
    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  76. Future Ed Future Ed Dec 27,2017 9:33 pm

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  77. AV AV Dec 28,2017 11:54 am

    in case you missed the latest in entitled assholes punching down…

    ‘You earn 100 pesos (£4.20) a month, idiot.’ —sampaoli

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  78. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 28,2017 12:27 pm
    • Soaker Soaker Dec 28,2017 2:29 pm || Up

      The series has already raked in over 55 million views in its first season.

      How many of those clicks came from Roy Moore?

    • Future Ed Future Ed Dec 28,2017 2:39 pm || Up

      whatever its fine. Ever since guttenberg, the means of production have been getting closer and closer to people. good for them to monetize this.

      I don’t stand in the way of kids doing things differently. As long as they don’t make fun of me for having a crush on bobby sherman.

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 28,2017 2:43 pm || Up

        I’m totally shipping you and Bobby Sherman.

        • AV AV Dec 28,2017 2:53 pm || Up

          edbby!

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
          • Future Ed Future Ed Dec 28,2017 6:56 pm || Up

            A friend who has a teenage girl hipped me to that phrase maybe 2 months ago. I am cutting edge

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • Future Ed Future Ed Dec 28,2017 6:57 pm || Up

            I am still sometimes called “Ebbie” by my mom and sister because I wrote it that way for about a month

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
  79. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 28,2017 2:35 pm

  80. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Dec 28,2017 9:51 pm

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