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Angels v A’s in Anaheim; Madsen’s guy v Sanity in NY 228

I don’t know what to say about either, but we can start here.

228 thoughts on “Angels v A’s in Anaheim; Madsen’s guy v Sanity in NY

  1. Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2016 6:03 pm

    The lecterns are glowing.

  2. Future Ed Sep 26,2016 6:06 pm

    he is already fact checking trump

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  3. Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2016 6:07 pm

    This is just so weird. The whole thing.

  4. Future Ed Sep 26,2016 6:07 pm

    his hair is so distracting

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2016 6:14 pm || Up

      Does he have a cold? He sounds terrible.

      • MikeV Sep 26,2016 9:42 pm || Up

        He didn’t do enough coke to last the whole night.

        And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

        Thanks, and go As.

  5. Future Ed Sep 26,2016 6:08 pm

    she should be able to destroy this

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  6. Future Ed Sep 26,2016 6:10 pm

    carrier?

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  7. Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2016 6:13 pm

    Trump is just going to spout his usual rambling nonsense in a quieter voice, it seems.

    • Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2016 6:15 pm || Up

      Wait, is Mexico stealing our cookie-making jobs?

    • dmoas Sep 26,2016 6:17 pm || Up

      I do like the first direct question he was given, instead of answering, he repeated his opening statement.

  8. dmoas Sep 26,2016 6:14 pm

    Aww… he’s gone all Robotic Rubio on us.

  9. Future Ed Sep 26,2016 6:17 pm

    he can’t handle this. the last 30 minutes is going to be epic. and I am going to miss it

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2016 6:18 pm || Up

      The split screen is incredible. He can’t hold still.

  10. Future Ed Sep 26,2016 6:19 pm

    he can interrupt but she can’t?

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  11. Future Ed Sep 26,2016 6:19 pm

    someone told him Michigan and ohio

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  12. Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2016 6:19 pm

    She’s doing a really good job of giving a positive answer but then slipping in a dig at him that he can’t help responding to like a toddler.

    • Future Ed Sep 26,2016 6:20 pm || Up

      right?

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 26,2016 6:47 pm || Up

      Yes this. She’s in total control of the dialogue and he’s scattered. At the end, either she is deemed to have easily won this debate…or Trump becomes a bug-eyed lunatic and it’s even uglier.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  13. Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2016 6:22 pm

    Christ, what an asshole.

    • dmoas Sep 26,2016 6:23 pm || Up

      He’s desperately trying to shake her up. And thankfully she’s not giving in.

  14. Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2016 6:25 pm

    Step your game up, Lester.

    • dmoas Sep 26,2016 6:26 pm || Up

      Nah. He’s doing okay.

      • Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2016 7:24 pm || Up

        He has done a great job. Trump and his associated henchpeople are going to go nuclear on him.

    • 5Aces Sep 27,2016 10:57 am || Up

      This quote travelled from Oct 2014.

      Oh…THAT Lester. carry on.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  15. Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2016 6:26 pm

    She’s been fighting ISIS since the 1970s?

    • dmoas Sep 26,2016 6:27 pm || Up

      Yup. Back when she invented them in her little high school notebook.

  16. dmoas Sep 26,2016 6:27 pm

    Sigh. I wish she would have just dropped a “Bull shit, Donald.”

  17. Future Ed Sep 26,2016 6:31 pm

    he hasn’t said anything about policy except some tax thing

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  18. Future Ed Sep 26,2016 6:33 pm

    clapping?

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  19. Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2016 6:34 pm

    How could his answer on his tax returns have been worse? That was horrible.

    He is so bad at this!

  20. Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2016 6:40 pm

    She is just dragging him. This is brutal.

  21. Future Ed Sep 26,2016 6:49 pm

    what? stop and frisk is constitutional?

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • dmoas Sep 26,2016 6:49 pm || Up

      In Trumpland.

    • Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2016 6:51 pm || Up

      anti-police judges are just rampant, don’t you know

      • FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 26,2016 6:53 pm || Up

        Yeah, those mostly former prosecutors are weak sisters in the fight for justice.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  22. Future Ed Sep 26,2016 6:56 pm

    she made up super predator?

    I think it was a horrible thing you made up about the central park 5

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 26,2016 6:59 pm || Up

      I have no problem with Hillary being called on the horrible effects of her/Bill’s policies on urban poor. That it comes from Trump is bizarre, but not wrong.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  23. Future Ed Sep 26,2016 7:00 pm

    he is going to say Clinton is the original birther?

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  24. Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2016 7:05 pm

    Bro, he made her Secretary of State! This is so stupid.

  25. Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2016 7:06 pm

    Dude, you don’t get credit for the times you didn’t discriminate. It’s not a credit to use against the times you did.

    • Future Ed Sep 26,2016 7:07 pm || Up

      cap and trade racism

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2016 7:09 pm || Up

        Did he even say “we didn’t discriminate”? All I heard was “lots of people got sued” and “we settled it with no admission of guilt.”

        • dmoas Sep 26,2016 7:11 pm || Up

          Nope. Never denied being racist. Just that everyone else was and he didn’t admit guilt.

  26. Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2016 7:11 pm

    I’ve read Dr. Bronners soap bottles more coherent than Donald Trump on “cyber.”

  27. FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 26,2016 7:14 pm

    Wow, Howard Dean, really?

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2016 7:25 pm || Up

    • Glorious Mundy Sep 27,2016 12:53 pm || Up

      Dear lord, he’s actually serious about this.

      • andeux Sep 27,2016 1:38 pm || Up

        Or trolling.

        TINSTAAFK
        • sslinger Sep 27,2016 2:49 pm || Up

          Could be that. I loved that she brought up “maybe he’s not worth as much as he says” in the part about his tax returns. That should be something her team brings up every day.

      • dmoas Sep 27,2016 6:25 pm || Up

        Seems he’s not saying he *was* on coke. Just the signs were there based on his medical opinion. Keep in mind he never ACTUALLY said he was on coke. Just asked if he was. Which is a fair question.

  28. Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2016 7:22 pm

    Suburban women must be eating this up, no?

  29. dmoas Sep 26,2016 7:28 pm

    Wait. Which deal was the worst deal ever? I thought it was NAFTA, now it’s Iran?

    • Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2016 7:30 pm || Up

      I honestly lost track of what countries he was talking about. China is supposed to invade Yemen or something?

      • dmoas Sep 26,2016 7:32 pm || Up

        No, no. He wants China to invade their own ALLY, North Korea. Good luck with that.

        • nevermoor Sep 27,2016 4:32 pm || Up

          But it shore would be nice.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  30. dmoas Sep 26,2016 7:33 pm

    Doesn’t have the stamina. Who’s had more sips from their glass of water? You, D. You. Who’s had to stand there for an hour an half listening to you? Her.

  31. Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2016 7:37 pm

    She just haymakered the shit out of him right at the end there.

    • dmoas Sep 26,2016 7:39 pm || Up

      I’m relieved with how she handled herself. Some things I would have done different, specifically in responding to him. But did well regardless. And Donald shat himself. Not that it will change minds.

      • Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2016 7:43 pm || Up

        Oh think it will, of people whose minds are changeable. That was some people’s first real dose of Donald unfiltered, and they are not going to like it.

  32. FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 26,2016 7:42 pm

    I gotta believe the consensus pundit verdict will be a solid Hillary victory here. Trump I suppose managed to avoid being baited into complete unhinged lunacy, just mere incoherence…maybe his camp can spin that as a win?

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2016 7:45 pm || Up

      That was the ultimate example of Mike Tyson’s “everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth” theory. He was planning to be subdued and presidential, but he got that IRS question and went on tilt for the rest of the show.

      • Future Ed Sep 27,2016 7:18 am || Up

        i did not know that quote and I love it

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • AV Sep 29,2016 6:03 pm || Up

        maybe the problem was, he had too many plans?

        The result, in this source’s view, is that Trump was overprepared, which left him without a clear plan to deliver his message or respond to Hillary Clinton’s jibes.

        i mean, grain of salt until confirmed. i can never tell the satirical news sites from the others.

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • dmoas Sep 29,2016 9:04 pm || Up

          There’s no way he was too prepared.

          • Glorious Mundy Sep 30,2016 10:21 am || Up

            The important thing is that he has handled the aftermath of his loss in a clear-eyed, mature way, rather than descending into madness.

            • Glorious Mundy Sep 30,2016 12:00 pm || Up

              Amazing…

              • dmoas Sep 30,2016 12:10 pm || Up

                Fixed it:

                “For those few people knocking me for tweeting at three o’clock in the morning, at least you know I will be there, awake, to answer the call! to nuke the fuck out of the world. You may not wake up though.”

                • Glorious Mundy Sep 30,2016 12:25 pm || Up

                  I want to know whether he was up all night stewing and just couldn’t hold back anymore, or whether he has figured out that 3 am is the time when Ivanka or KellyAnne or whoever won’t be keeping an eye on his phone.

                • dmoas Sep 30,2016 12:48 pm || Up

                  Coke. It’s a hell of a drug.

    • Glorious Mundy Sep 26,2016 8:05 pm || Up

      Ack. Fake account fooled me!

  33. FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 26,2016 8:03 pm

    Happy to hear that Andrew Lambo is now cancer free. I had to remind myself who he is.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Glorious Mundy Sep 27,2016 6:01 pm || Up

      He’s a big Billy Beane fan:

      “Billy Beane has gotten some heat for the last couple of years, but I tell you what, there’s been a tidal wave of injuries, he’s got like 2 million guys on the DL right now,” Lambo said, adding of his own situation, “I’m so sick of people bagging on Billy. You hear people say he’s a jerk, but you don’t think he had the final stamp on this? Of course he did.”

  34. harensheir15 Sep 27,2016 3:55 am

    Speaking of the emergence of the arrow of time being related to the (in)ability of observers to preserve information about experienced events, I don’t know if this paper passes muster or if it’s just shoddy scaffolding propping up biocentrism.

    • ptbnl Sep 27,2016 8:08 am || Up

      Having reached the fundamental conclusion that (under their assumptions) quantum gravitational decoherence cannot be responsible for the emergence of the arrow of time, the discussion of the role of observers seems like a very speculative afterthought. I’m not sure how a Universe would even begin under such physics.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  35. FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 27,2016 7:16 am
    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Soaker Sep 27,2016 9:02 am || Up

      Gary Payton would love to throw a birthday cake in his face.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 27,2016 2:47 pm || Up

        More Oski appreciation, this one including the Gary Payton story.

        http://www.berkeleyside.com/2016/09/27/uc-berkeley-mascot-oski-celebrates-75th-birthday/

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • Soaker Sep 27,2016 3:59 pm || Up

          I have always liked this look for Oski and wish they would go with it in real life, except with the more common flat-topped hat instead of the Jughead crown.

          Cuddly enough for Oski’s Fun Zone but also mean enough to rip the limbs off a Tree when that need arises, as it occasionally does.

          What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  36. doctorK Sep 27,2016 8:16 am

    So, I take it nobody watched the A’s last night.

    • Future Ed Sep 27,2016 5:19 pm || Up

      I went to a show.

      Colin: have you seen the Louisville band “white reaper?”

      terrible name, but I like them

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • colin Sep 27,2016 7:14 pm || Up

        Nope, but I live darn close to Louisville these days. Polyvinyl Records puts out some good shit.

    • Soaker Sep 27,2016 6:52 pm || Up

      It seems to me, flipping between the Cardinals and Giants is the call tonight at least as long as the Cardinals game is in doubt. I have a hard time including the A’s in the rotation.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • Future Ed Sep 27,2016 7:25 pm || Up

        with plays like the one eibner and valencia just made…

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 27,2016 8:00 pm || Up

      I watched most of the game, for some reason.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  37. ptbnl Sep 27,2016 10:19 am

    If we’re linking to cool science papers

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • sslinger Sep 27,2016 12:29 pm || Up

      That is cool. Do you know how to get such a device? Would there be an option for a home brewer, or just at the production level?

  38. Glorious Mundy Sep 27,2016 12:43 pm
  39. Glorious Mundy Sep 27,2016 6:06 pm
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 27,2016 8:09 pm || Up

      Interesting stuff. Anecdotally, when I think of balls in Oakland that didn’t go out in the past 20 years they’re almost always flies in the power alleys. Before then my (much sketchier) memory has the failed homers scattered around more.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • dmoas Sep 27,2016 9:15 pm || Up

        I only remember one: Frank Thomas. ALCS Game 1, just short of the center field wall for a not a grand slam to win it in the bottom of the ninth.

        • MikeV Sep 27,2016 9:31 pm || Up

          I was there. That game sucked.

          And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

          Thanks, and go As.

  40. Glorious Mundy Sep 27,2016 7:01 pm
    • Soaker Sep 27,2016 7:14 pm || Up

      That goes right along with “We’re going to be more aggressive on the bases this year”, a staple of every manager’s February 21 chat with the reporters.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • Future Ed Sep 27,2016 7:26 pm || Up

      I would like to assess their bunting. Havne’t seen any since 2013

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 27,2016 8:01 pm || Up

        QOTM!

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • 5Aces Sep 28,2016 1:52 pm || Up

        Well done!

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  41. Future Ed Sep 27,2016 7:57 pm

    this a a bad game

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  42. FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 27,2016 8:18 pm

    Ouch.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  43. Soaker Sep 27,2016 8:47 pm

    Between the Rockies and the A’s…good night.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  44. MikeV Sep 27,2016 9:08 pm

    Donna and Josh was the most obvious storyline

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

    • Glorious Mundy Sep 28,2016 10:38 am || Up

      Sure, but they made you wait for it. I think it was well earned.

      • AV Sep 28,2016 4:05 pm || Up
        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • Glorious Mundy Sep 29,2016 1:35 pm || Up

          That was a great lounge!

        • 5Aces Sep 29,2016 2:51 pm || Up

          Wow it was. I just went back and reread all my comments.

          Slightly related: Ed, you worked for the city of Lawndale? Like down here Lawndale? I happen by the fair township on my way from Lomita to El Segundo every day.

          Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
          • Soaker Sep 29,2016 2:58 pm || Up

            I know where just about all of the Balkanized cities of Los Angeles, Orange and Ventura Counties are, but Lomita was one I had to look up. That looks like a reasonable commute by Southland standards.

            What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
            • 5Aces Sep 29,2016 3:09 pm || Up

              In and of itself the commute is in tolerable range.

              What messes it up is having to take the kids to school in the morning. That extra 15-20 minutes going out of the way and getting stuck in idiot traffic jams pushes it over the line.

              Come next June I will be looking for something a little closer or different. It doesn’t help I accidentally moved into a place with a HOA. Got a note last night from them. I had 3 bricks wrapped in aluminum foil sitting on top of my fence out front. Their committee found it in violation and had their lawyers send me a friendly request to remove them.

              Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
              • Future Ed Sep 29,2016 3:39 pm || Up

                my commute to lawndale was chill, I lived at venice and centinella, took the marina to the 405 and off not on hawthorne but the one just before it.

                only good commute in LA

                I have $5. No I don\'t.
            • Future Ed Sep 29,2016 3:37 pm || Up

              LAFco was the patronage hub of the 50s

              I have $5. No I don\'t.
              • Soaker Sep 29,2016 5:39 pm || Up

                LA has way too many government entities. So does the Bay Area, but LA is extreme. You’d think some of those would be merged out of separate existence, but I suppose once turf has been created it will be ferociously defended. It seems like small entities are prone to corruption, and yes, City of Bell, I am looking directly at you. I’m sure FSU could articulate these issues much better than I can.

                What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
                • Future Ed Sep 29,2016 7:43 pm || Up

                  well, they were incorporated specifically to stave off annexation from LA. I think it was commerce or irwindale that didn’t have enough night time residents to qualify unless they counted the people conserved in the asylum.

                  had a really great class in college about it, we started the semester with “dodgers move west” then to the Lakewood plan city or contract city.

                  It is the start of everything that is wrong with California and lead directly to 80 inch tvs.

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 29,2016 8:50 pm || Up

                  The little-known special districts always feel extra sketchy to me. Lots of revenue, little oversight.

                  "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
                • Future Ed Sep 29,2016 9:33 pm || Up

                  did you see the last week tonight on that?

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • sslinger Sep 29,2016 10:14 pm || Up

                  Yeah, that was pretty great/distressing.

                • Soaker Sep 29,2016 11:55 pm || Up

                  Our sewer district is run by the Stateline casinos, which contribute most of the poop. There hasn’t been an election since the 1980s because the law provides that uncontested seats don’t appear on the ballot. So when there is a vacancy, the casinos appoint a replacement who then “wins” the next non-election. Their plan to expand their facilities in Carson Valley (nothing that’s been treated is dumped into the lake, it’s all pumped over the mountains and dumped off to our east) was controversial in the valley, one thing led to another and now the District Attorney is attempting to have the sewer district dissolved, for the elections issue, violations of public meeting laws etc. It looks like the legislature will have to get involved next year.

                  It’s not a no-brainer because absent is any accusation of ripping off the ratepayers. They charge me $444/year, with the cost of the pumping contributing, but that’s somewhat less than the adjacent folks in South Lake Tahoe, CA pay for the same service.

                  What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
          • AV Sep 29,2016 3:24 pm || Up

            which have both been immortalized in song for their mexican restaurants (and what’s been left there: wallet, appetite).

            you’re already singing the el segundo one. the other one.

            *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
            • 5Aces Sep 29,2016 3:52 pm || Up

              I ate at Alfredo’s in Lomita a few weeks ago. Unimpressed. I’ve actually not found a GREAT Mexican restaurant down here. But I think that is more a function of me not going out to eat much.

              Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
              • Future Ed Sep 29,2016 4:25 pm || Up

                the trick was look for seios. if they have it, give the place a try.

                (dont order seios)

                I have $5. No I don\'t.
              • AV Sep 29,2016 4:30 pm || Up

                alfredo’s is a dive.

                supermex in long beach. carnitas plate with corn tortillas, extra guac. that was my jam.

                but yeah, it’s kinda different down there. more of a wet burritos scene. and sit-down restaus with tableside guacamole spectacles.

                *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • Future Ed Sep 29,2016 4:40 pm || Up

                  itsnot great, but you have to go to (cannot remember the name) the old sit down place in hollywood, or maybe not hollywood.

                  fuck.

                  I’ll remember

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • AV Sep 29,2016 4:49 pm || Up

                  on olvera street, at the end close to the big bandstand, la luz del dia. carnitas on handmade corn tortillas.

                  and burrito king in echo park is a classic hole.

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • Future Ed Sep 29,2016 7:45 pm || Up

                  ah, olevera street, what one rich white lady thought mexicans were like.

                  yeah, that on, but there is another one I am thinking of

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • 5Aces Sep 30,2016 9:16 am || Up

                  Writing all of these down.

                  Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
              • AV Sep 29,2016 4:39 pm || Up

                must be throwback thursday…

                i think my first official date we ate at pollo loco on hawthorne. picked her up at her parents to go to a show, running late, realized i hadn’t eaten all day. romantic.

                *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
          • Future Ed Sep 29,2016 3:36 pm || Up

            i did.

            that’s where i was on an interview panel for a cop, helped hire a dude who couldn’t make the royals because of Willie Wilson, and was told by the city counsel in an open session that they wanted to eliminate my job

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • Future Ed Sep 29,2016 3:37 pm || Up

            also, lomita used to have a great record store that I am sure is gone because the proprietor was in his 70s in the 90s

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
            • 5Aces Sep 30,2016 9:18 am || Up

              It has to be because I honestly have not seen anything of actual interest in Lomita yet.

              And to be fair, I am on the tip of Lomita. Im south of PCH up on the hill near Rolling Hills Estates. I have the snobs a half mile in one direction and projects a quarter mile in the other.

              Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  45. Future Ed Sep 27,2016 9:45 pm

    sweet relief

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  46. MikeV Sep 27,2016 10:19 pm

    I’m pretty sure I won’t be able to re-watch West Wing. Those last few episodes are heavy.

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

  47. Glorious Mundy Sep 28,2016 10:37 am

    Actual NYT headline this morning: “Democrats Worry Clinton’s Confidence May Be Fleeting”

    Come on, y’all.

    • dmoas Sep 28,2016 10:49 am || Up

      Apparently newspaper sales are more important that the safety of the union. Priorities.

      • Glorious Mundy Sep 28,2016 11:22 am || Up

        The funniest part is that no one in the story actually expresses the view in the headline. It’s just a bunch of people saying “we wish this weren’t as close as it is” and “we’d better register people and get them to vote” and “boy, she sure kicked his ass.”

        OTOH, this book review is just fantastic in its subtlety.

        • sslinger Sep 28,2016 11:26 am || Up

          Whatever could you mean by that?

          • Glorious Mundy Sep 28,2016 1:22 pm || Up

            I’m fairly sure Godwin’s Law has been abrogated through November 8, but she still wasn’t taking any chances.

        • AV Sep 28,2016 3:59 pm || Up

          just because the view isn’t expressed, that doesn’t mean it can’t raise questions.

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • dmoas Sep 28,2016 4:10 pm || Up

          Wait. Is that a book about Hitler or someone else? It sounds like someone else.

  48. Glorious Mundy Sep 28,2016 12:18 pm

    Barcelona -> Argentina -> MLS Expansion Team is a novel coaching trajectory.

    • MikeV Sep 28,2016 12:57 pm || Up

      Atlanta are doing it right. They’re probably signing Guardado too.

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

      • Glorious Mundy Sep 28,2016 12:59 pm || Up

        Whoa, for real? That would be a great signing.

        • MikeV Sep 28,2016 2:27 pm || Up

          Yeah that’s the hot rumor.

          And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

          Thanks, and go As.

      • 5Aces Sep 28,2016 1:54 pm || Up

        Gotta have someone go out there everyday, amirite?

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  49. Glorious Mundy Sep 28,2016 12:44 pm

    LOL, you mean handing the campaign over to the head of a racist/anti-semitic website, a figurehead who spends all of her time on TV, and an odious man who has spent 20 years ineffectively throwing feces at Hillary isn’t working out as they hoped? And they are blaming them for the effect on “the business” rather than, say, their dad?

    • dmoas Sep 28,2016 4:12 pm || Up

      Uh. He’s doing a bang up job of killing his business. Did he not notice when his Pageant and TV show were taken away? You know, like a year ago?

      • Glorious Mundy Sep 29,2016 1:37 pm || Up

        This seems like a pretty reasonable prediction.

        • dmoas Sep 29,2016 9:10 pm || Up

          Sounds about right.

          • nevermoor Oct 3,2016 11:45 am || Up

            Completely disagree. I bet he launches a new media network and instantly captures 25% of the country.

            Post-ailes, and with Murdoch getting old, Fox news is in danger of no longer being the hard-right alternative to news.

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
            • dmoas Oct 3,2016 12:47 pm || Up

              Meh. That’s a lot more time, effort, and money to invest in. And while, sure, Fox will slant towards the left a little more over time, not nearly enough to leave a big enough gap to create the kind of viewership you suggest. He’s, what, 70? It takes years to make that happen. All while his funds slowly deteriorate. And he’ll still be on the hook for all his current properties and investments and lawsuits.

              • Glorious Mundy Oct 3,2016 12:59 pm || Up

                I think a Trump network would be a huge flop, if he could even get it up and running. He’s an idiot and a terrible manager. I guess I guess it could work if he just gave it his brand and let Ailes run it, but surely Ailes has a non-compete with Fox.

  50. ptbnl Sep 28,2016 1:00 pm

    Champions League oddity: Celtic have taken the lead 3 times, and each time Manchester City have equalized exactly 8 minutes later.

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  51. Glorious Mundy Sep 28,2016 3:28 pm
  52. AV Sep 28,2016 4:09 pm

    confession time. you guys, uh, i’m… i don’t know how to say this, i… i’m a techie.

    SHUT UP AND PASS ME MY SKINNY HOODIE.

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • AV Sep 28,2016 4:17 pm || Up

      it’s only funny because i’m not kidding.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • Future Ed Sep 28,2016 7:32 pm || Up

        you want to buy the condo upstairs?

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • andeux Sep 28,2016 4:23 pm || Up

      New job, or revelatory flash of self-awareness?

      TINSTAAFK
      • AV Sep 28,2016 4:27 pm || Up

        the one with the money.

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • andeux Sep 28,2016 4:37 pm || Up

          Nice.

          TINSTAAFK
        • FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 28,2016 4:42 pm || Up

          Congrats AV. No amount of nouveau tech riches could make you any less an original.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • sslinger Sep 28,2016 5:29 pm || Up

            What he said.

            • AV Sep 29,2016 9:11 am || Up

              thanks y’all. it’s weird though.

              *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
              • batgirl Sep 29,2016 12:58 pm || Up

                You may retire yet!

                But now don’t you have to figure out what to do with even more retirement savings??!!

                • AV Sep 29,2016 1:45 pm || Up

                  so i have a new theory on retirement. basically, we’re all gambling on not knowing how long we’ll be alive. hoping to work just long enough to pay for that unknown and variable number of years thereafter. so much handwringing.

                  so… take the variable out. like, decide to die at a certain moment. jan 1, 2030, for instance. i’ll totally know when to stop working to make it to that date. (it’ll be around december 2029. but i’ll have a great month.)

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • AV Sep 29,2016 1:48 pm || Up

                  second thought, i hate winter.

                  october 2030. for that indian summer.

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • AV Sep 29,2016 1:49 pm || Up

                  second second thought, yeah january. but in argentina.

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • andeux Sep 29,2016 1:50 pm || Up

                  That’s one of the arguments for defined benefit pensions vs. IRA/401k. It’s easier to do the planning on the aggregate level and count on the statistics to work out.
                  The downside is, it’s also easy to promise the benefits but not actually have the money to pay for them.

                  TINSTAAFK
        • elcroata Sep 28,2016 10:39 pm || Up

          Well done

          Because survival is insufficient
    • Glorious Mundy Sep 28,2016 5:44 pm || Up

      You’re totally disrupting me right now.

    • AV Oct 10,2016 5:22 pm || Up

      and i’m not quitting till i get at least one of these jokes.

      https://toggl.com/programming-princess

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • AV Nov 8,2017 10:02 pm || Up

        i didn’t get any of the jokes.

        so i slacked the #engineering channel :rainbow parrot: :party parrot: :brown parrot: :poop:, then went to #lunch (not the meal) and bragged about how many sriracha cashews i could food without a le croix. there were some replies i ignored from the couch lounge, until someone @’d me, which then i declaratively said, that’s not how #sales wants to force multiply? which got answered by an actual grammatically correct question, so everybody got confused and they called an all-hands to make sure any outstanding questions were outside the scope of the meeting, and a jira epic got started to schedule some 1:1’s were. then chews showed up with the vegan gluten-free seasonal vegetables (as opposed to vegetables that are in season), which we miracle-fruit tripped on as if the early 2000’s had never happened, while someone took a nap live on the hangout snoring out positivity about inclusion.

        yeah, it was an interesting year and my last day is the 15th.

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • ptbnl Nov 8,2017 10:23 pm || Up

          None of the jokes were funny anyway.

          If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  53. MikeV Sep 28,2016 4:52 pm

    $200 rent increase per month.

    IDK if I can find that.

    :(

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

    • Future Ed Sep 28,2016 7:34 pm || Up

      that is fucked up. we need statewide rent control that kicks in then there is less than x% vacancy rate.

      I mean, I would support price controls without the restriction, but I hope that is palatable to real estate

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  54. Future Ed Sep 28,2016 7:37 pm

    sonny 92-94. but i didn’t notice curveballs

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  55. Soaker Sep 28,2016 8:36 pm

    As much as I’d like to be the diehard loyal fan watching Game 158, this is sort of ridiculous.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • andeux Sep 28,2016 8:37 pm || Up

      Detwiler + the A’s defense is not a pretty combination.

      TINSTAAFK
  56. Future Ed Sep 29,2016 5:46 am

    now that Davis has achieved 40/100, I can’t think of anything to root for

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • colin Sep 29,2016 7:06 am || Up

      Marcus is just three Semiens away from 30. He would need to have a big series against Seattle.

      A’s have clinched last place in the AL West — can’t catch LAA any more. They can still be spoilers to Seattle’s (slim) wild card hopes. But I would probably like Seattle in the postseason over DET/BAL.

      If we want to talk about tanking for draft position, the Twins have an untouchable claim on first pick, but then there is a pretty tight bunching: TBR+ATL at 65 wins, ARI at 66, OAK+CIN at 67, and SDP at 68. I’m not sure how the tiebreakers work, but Oakland could end up anywhere between second pick and seventh. But I would like to do better than 2015’s 68 wins… just to get some hope that they have bottomed out and will be better next year.

      • FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 29,2016 9:01 am || Up

        Unless there’s a Strasburg or A-Rod sitting there for the #2 team, a genuine can’t miss once-a-decade type, then I’d much rather win now.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • MikeV Sep 29,2016 9:40 am || Up

          I guess I could settle for a Harper

          And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

          Thanks, and go As.

          • Glorious Mundy Sep 29,2016 9:56 am || Up

            All three of those guys went #1 overall.

            The list of legitimately “can’t miss” #2s looks pretty thin, at least in retrospect. Mark Mulder may be the most can’t miss guy on this list.

            (I’m assuming Reggie wasn’t “can’t miss” since he mostly played football in college.)

            • ptbnl Sep 29,2016 10:42 am || Up

              Verlander in 2004.

              If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
              • andeux Sep 29,2016 10:52 am || Up

                True, though he was really the consensus #1 in that draft, and fell to #2 because the Padres were cheap/stupid.

                TINSTAAFK
                • ptbnl Sep 29,2016 10:57 am || Up

                  Fair point. Beckett in ’99 was second to Hamilton (though that draft also had Pujols at 402)

                  If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
              • Glorious Mundy Sep 29,2016 10:55 am || Up

                Just a random google, but this doesn’t sound exactly can’t miss in the Strasburg vein. He sounds more like a very high ceiling guy with some flaws.

                J.D. Drew was probably can’t miss other than his bad attitude.

                • ptbnl Sep 29,2016 10:59 am || Up

                  My random duck-duck-go ended up at the 2004 MLB site:

                  COMMENT: LEAN, WIRY STRONG. LONG ARMS. THIN WAIST. TAPERS TO LONG, STRONG LEGS. BODY SIMILAR TO ANDY ASHBY. NO WINDUP, 3/4 DELIVERY. LOOSE, LIVE, QUICK ARM. PWR FB W/ OCCAISIONAL RUN INTO RHH, BAT BREAKER. NASTY, HARD SLIDER, 3/4 TILT, LATE BITE IN ZONE, KNEE BUCKLER. FRANCHISE TYPE PITCHER. NUMBER ONE STARTER. OVERPOWERING STUFF. WILL GET THERE QUICK.

                  If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
                • Glorious Mundy Sep 29,2016 11:03 am || Up

                  OK, I’ll give it to you.

                  I love the urgency of this dispatch. HE’S COMING TO BUCKLE YOUR KNEES AND BREAK YOUR BATS WITH HIS LONG, STRONG LEGS AND THIN WAIST. THIS IS NOT A DRILL. PREPARE YOURSELVES NOW BECAUSE HE WILL BE THERE WITHIN MINUTES.

        • colin Sep 29,2016 10:53 am || Up

          Yeah, I can speculate about tanking for draft position, but I never actually want to do it. Pretty bummed that this last crappy series put LAAA out of reach, because beating the Angels was my primary hope once I realized that this season was going to suck.

    • Glorious Mundy Sep 29,2016 9:20 am || Up

      I’m rooting for everyone to try their best, have fun, and maybe make a new friend or two.

      • Soaker Sep 29,2016 9:50 am || Up

        Coach Bob will hand out the participation trophies at the pizza party.

        What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
        • Future Ed Sep 29,2016 9:57 am || Up

          but he is not getting the names on the medals this year, that was a headache, and he still has drew poneranz’s in his glove box.

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • Soaker Sep 29,2016 12:58 pm || Up

            Coach Bob also has some awards to present.

            Most improved: Kendall
            Best new kid: Ryon
            Hardest punch: Danny
            Stinkiest fart: Sonny

            What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
            • Glorious Mundy Sep 29,2016 1:51 pm || Up

              He had to white out “Billy” on that last certificate.

      • 5Aces Sep 29,2016 11:34 am || Up

        And if theyre not careful they might learn something before it’s done.

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • Soaker Sep 29,2016 3:07 pm || Up

      Well, here’s something to root for.

      The rainout leaves the Tigers facing a potentially adventurous travel scenario. That includes the potential of playing at Atlanta on Sunday, heading back to Detroit for a makeup game on Monday, a potential Wild Card tiebreaker at Baltimore or Toronto on Tuesday, a Wild Card Game somewhere on Wednesday, then a Division Series opener somewhere on Thursday.

      That would be five games in five days in five different cities. If three teams tie for the second Wild Card spot, the schedule is even more complicated.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  57. FreeSeatUpgrade Sep 29,2016 8:58 am

    Wait, so Ross Detwiler is NOT an adequate replacement for Sonny Gray? I hope Forst realizes this.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Future Ed Sep 29,2016 9:58 am || Up

      unsurprising result was unsurprising

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  58. AV Sep 29,2016 10:45 am
    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  59. Glorious Mundy Sep 29,2016 11:13 am

    Hmmm, not sure this comparison makes any sense.

    • colin Sep 29,2016 11:20 am || Up

      I’m sympathetic with the idea that it’s basically impossible to design any good validation for election forecasts. But if you compare 538 to other prediction outfits, I think you do find that their model swings around more dramatically, even though the models tend to agree on average. That makes it seem like their estimator is just less optimal, in the minimum variance sense.

    • andeux Sep 29,2016 12:01 pm || Up

      It makes sense in the vacuous sense that any probabilistic predictive model gives an estimate based on the data known up to the time of the prediction, and can change (sometimes by a lot) as new data comes in.

      The difference, as Colin suggests, is that for sports scores we have a large set of historical data to inform our model giving a mapping from (prior estimate of strength of teams, current score difference, time remaining) -> probability of winning. So if two different people build models, they will either agree pretty closely, or we can look back at that historical data and call one model better than the other based on how well it explains that data. Whereas with US presidential polls, we have very sparse past data, and the political climate can change, so if two different forecasters make radically different estimates of future volatility, it’s hard to say who is right.

      This is part of a larger problem I have with Silver’s work, or at least his explanations of it. There is a way of formalizing this kind of estimation/prediction problem. In this kind of model, you assume that at any time t the thing you are trying to estimate is in some definite state X(t), but in general the actual value of that state is unknown and even unknowable. The output of the model is an estimate XÌ‚(t), along with an estimate of your own uncertainty of that value. And the distinction between X and XÌ‚ is really important. Silver tends to elide this, implying that volatility in his model necessarily reflects volatility in the underlying race. That can be true (for example, in the basketball game, when win probability changes because one team scores a bunch of points), or it can be not true (for example, when the model itself adds volatility by being too sensitive to noisy data). Other estimates of this race are much more stable and frankly seem to make more sense.

      TINSTAAFK
      • colin Sep 29,2016 3:09 pm || Up

        I think this actually stems a little bit from his fairly hard-core Bayesianism. If you spend all your time thinking about the posterior pdf of your model parameters, then you can sometimes overlook the much more concrete problem of understanding the probability distribution of your estimator. The high variance in that model looks like it would naturally lead to overcoverage, i.e. if you *were* able to run repeated experiments you would find much more than 67% of the outcomes in what is supposed to be the 1-sigma range.

  60. elcroata Sep 29,2016 11:29 am

    Because survival is insufficient
  61. elcroata Sep 29,2016 12:57 pm

    Because survival is insufficient
  62. elcroata Sep 29,2016 1:08 pm
    Because survival is insufficient

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