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205 thoughts on “Your trajectory for the week: The Grill 012510

  1. nevermoor Jan 25,2010 8:41 am

    Re 1: That’s the thing about Jeremy Giambi, he’s not afraid to stay on his feet. He’s like a kid playing on cement out there.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  2. nevermoor Jan 25,2010 8:47 am

    Re 4: Holy crap. That covers a whole lot of stupid. Education? Bad. Black people? Bad. Social safety nets? Bad.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • monkeyball Jan 25,2010 9:34 am || Up

      Mom, all these poor black people followed me home! Can I keep them?

      No, honey — wait til your father gets home. He’ll put them in a sack and take them down to the creek.

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      • green star oakland Jan 25,2010 10:11 am || Up

        He’ll send them to live on a farm in the country … oh, right.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  3. nevermoor Jan 25,2010 9:10 am

    GOP! GOP! GOP!

    “Of course, duping people is the point. … That’s one of the reasons why it works so well,” said one Republican operative familiar with the program, who said it’s among the RNC’s most lucrative fundraising initiatives. “They will likely mail millions this year [with] incredible targeting.”

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  4. mikeA Jan 25,2010 9:29 am
    • mother pucker Jan 25,2010 10:53 am || Up

      Dude, have you dared to read any of his cartoons? He makes n**o look like Larry David…

      • mikeA Jan 25,2010 11:13 am || Up

        Let us not speak of his cartoons.

      • mikeA Jan 25,2010 11:16 am || Up

        Hmmm, were you trying to reply to a different comment?

        • mother pucker Jan 25,2010 11:25 am || Up

          We’re talking about reading “ZekeIsHungry” and N**o’s sketches, yeah?

          • mikeA Jan 25,2010 11:25 am || Up

            yeah, see below….

            • Leopold Bloom Jan 25,2010 11:43 am || Up

              That’s the thing about N**o–the cartoons he makes aren’t funny, but he still keeps pumping them out–you gotta respect that right there.

              • nevermoor Jan 25,2010 11:53 am || Up

                You forgot to work in “He’s like a kid who thinks he can write out there”

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • monkeyball Jan 25,2010 12:02 pm || Up

                  I think you mean “He’s got, like, 15 kids who think he can write out there”

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                • mother pucker Jan 25,2010 12:14 pm || Up

                  8 14 year-olds dude?

                • monkeyball Jan 25,2010 12:25 pm || Up

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                • JediLeroy Jan 25,2010 3:52 pm || Up

                  Okay, which one of you is TheQuestForMerlin?

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                • JediLeroy Jan 25,2010 3:57 pm || Up

                  I mean, honestly? Who in the world would find that funny? Maybe it was funny in fourth grade, when you learned how to swear. But most of us have at least graduated to penis jokes.

                  What the heck does the lion have to do with anything? Why is there a lion in a suit, except to make the joke? Oh, I get it–that’s why it’s funny! See, lions don’t normally wear clothes! Ha!

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                • Leopold Bloom Jan 25,2010 4:23 pm || Up

                  I must join JL here. Who is TheQuestForMerlin?

                • monkeyball Jan 25,2010 4:28 pm || Up

                  He may well be a troll — but only at **. Looks like he’s an authentic Slegna fan.

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                • Leopold Bloom Jan 26,2010 8:11 am || Up

                  you sure it’s not you?

                • green star oakland Jan 25,2010 4:36 pm || Up

                  A fantasy baseball playing management consultant from Norwich (UK) called Rodric McGregor. At a guess.

                  If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
                • JediLeroy Jan 25,2010 4:46 pm || Up

                  No way that’s a real name. We all know (well, everybody but his brother) that that guy’s dead.

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                • mk Jan 25,2010 4:45 pm || Up

                  I don’t understand all the carping over Nico’s cartoons. Are they really any worse than the punny wordplay we all engage in?

                • JediLeroy Jan 25,2010 4:53 pm || Up

                  Do we take a really crappy pun that has nothing to do with anything and paste it on the front page of our highly trafficked web site every day so as to add exposure to our crappy puns?

                  I dunno, that’s my take on the issue. With almost no positive response to the comics, he keeps posting them. Whatever, it’s more his site than mine, so he can do what he wants. I just think he thinks he’s a lot funnier than he really is.

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                • mk Jan 25,2010 5:28 pm || Up

                  No, we don’t do the front page pasting thing. We make a lot of cheesy jokes, though. Come on, you know we do. For example, if I were to mention a type of fish right now, within moments there would be twelve trailing comments punning the shit out it.

                  I guess I just don’t see the cartoons as better or worse than anything else. I mean, they let that emperor nobody dude post on the front page. baseballgirl never met a joke she didn’t think was OMG HILARIOUS. The comments sections are filled with people LOLing at lame stuff.

                  I think you all just really dislike Nico, so his writing and cartooning annoys you more than it otherwise might.

                • nevermoor Jan 25,2010 5:33 pm || Up

                  The last paragraph is true. Also, they objectively really suck. Also, ** is different than here. Also.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • JediLeroy Jan 25,2010 5:43 pm || Up

                  Our puns are less horrible than the front-page comics, since they’re playing off of something that someone else has typed. Nico’s puns are unprovoked.

                  There’s no banter. It’s his “wit” on display for all to see.

                  For the record, I’m not a fan of the other front pagers, either (though I like an occasional historical 67MARQUEZ piece)

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                • FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 25,2010 6:11 pm || Up

                  Q: Are Nico’s cartoons really any worse than the punny wordplay we all engage in?

                  A: By orders of magnitude, yes. Some puns are dumb, some jokes unfunny, certainly plenty of mine, but those cartoons are teeth-grindingly unfunny (and butt ugly besides). Bit I agree that the unfunny Nico cartoons are the low-hanging horses we’ve harped on beating to a fruitful death mostly ’cause Nico’s so generally disliked around here.

                  I myself am meh on Nico, somewhere on the OlySnowe:HCR part of the spectrum. I think he sees ballgames insightfully, sometimes. But then I also like emperor nobody.

                  "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
                • mk Jan 25,2010 6:20 pm || Up

                  Guess so. Six one, half dozen the other to me, but hey, as LB would say, maybe what’s right for Nico is wrong for you, really wrong for JediLeroy, and irrelevant to me, it’s all gray and subjective, point of view is complicated, language lies, image distorts, then there’s the universe and King Lear and the gap between rhetoric and content, the facts are after all just the persuasive parts of the fiction, the underpinnings are all in flux, not to mention I could come up with eight reasons to make you less sure of all the stuff I’m less sure about that you think you’re certain about and Nico won’t even guess at.

                • JediLeroy Jan 25,2010 7:24 pm || Up

                  I actually just hate the cartoons and many of the posts. But I don’t actually hate Nico. I used to like him a lot–he’s just soured on me a bit lately.

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                • nevermoor Jan 25,2010 7:31 pm || Up

                  I don’t get en at all. I have never read a comment of his that did anything positive for me.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • JediLeroy Jan 25,2010 7:40 pm || Up

                  For me, he’s Gaijin_Suketto without making me laugh.

                  Or mk without the coherent thoughts to give the nonsense charm.

                  I still kinda want to like him, though.

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                • mk Jan 25,2010 8:06 pm || Up

                  (re: JL … out of room)

                  That sucks. I was hoping my nonsense could survive on its own, because more and more, coherence eludes me. Eventually you will all have to start a new blog where you can complain to each other about how annoying I am.

                  I like Gaijin_Suketto. I think we should woo him and LowCountryJoe.

                • JediLeroy Jan 25,2010 8:56 pm || Up

                  re:mk
                  agree on both users.

                  And I love your nonsense, FWIW.

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                • mk Jan 25,2010 10:49 pm || Up

                  Who is in charge of wooing? We need a Wooing Coordinator (with promotion opportunities all the way up to Director of Wooing Development).

                  [Edit mk forgot to nominate this guy, he regrets the omission]

                  HANG DAI, SWEDGIN!

                • Leopold Bloom Jan 26,2010 8:20 am || Up

                  I didn’t want to like en. He made me like him. I think JL’s description (“G_S without the humor”) is accurate. Plus I love Don/67M.

                  I can woo. I’d like Faust too, though. And I increasingly like mk.

                • Leopold Bloom Jan 26,2010 8:22 am || Up

                  And Nico’s cartoons are okay–they’re stupid, yes, but they’re a project he did with 14 year-olds: it’s supposed to be lame. When the season starts, he’ll go back to writing captions and those actually can be kind of funny.

                • Leopold Bloom Jan 26,2010 8:51 am || Up

                  captions no funny

                  or

                  you don’t like Faust

                  or

                  you don’t increasingly like mk

                  or

                  cartoons are of the debil

                  or

                  you don’t want me out there, wooing?

                • mikeA Jan 26,2010 8:55 am || Up

                  captions no funny.

                • nevermoor Jan 26,2010 8:56 am || Up

                  The caption writing itself is 100% nico. And they’re almost always awful. And he published it.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • mikeA Jan 25,2010 11:22 am || Up

      whoa, I fucked that up good. Meant to link to Olney… Here’s the first one that mb didn’t link to

      So that’s why no one responded…

  5. monkeyball Jan 25,2010 9:40 am

    This is the sort of overhead-reducing bureaucratic efficiency that the insurance industry should emulate

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  6. monkeyball Jan 25,2010 9:56 am
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    • nevermoor Jan 25,2010 10:50 am || Up

      Isn’t that exactly the sort of masturbatory film critique you enjoy/occasionally link to? Or is this somehow different from/worse than grain analysis of DVDs/attacks on directors/etc?

      I like Mad Men because it’s a deep, well written tv show with strong characters. So I suppose that makes me chapter XVIII.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • monkeyball Jan 25,2010 11:04 am || Up

        Virtually every supporting detail he cites is wrong. He doesn’t know what he’s talking about. It’s also of the school of uninformed amateur film crit wherein technical competence is mistaken for Deep Meaning From the Hand of the Great Man.

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        • nevermoor Jan 25,2010 11:15 am || Up

          Ah, gotcha. So he was masturbating wrong.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • monkeyball Jan 25,2010 11:28 am || Up

            … with Joe Buck providing color commentary …

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            • Leopold Bloom Jan 25,2010 11:47 am || Up

              If he were masturbating wrong, Joe Buck would not notice and would comment on how wonderfully he’s masturbating.

              • nevermoor Jan 25,2010 11:54 am || Up

                Depends on whether he’s a gunslinger.

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • Leopold Bloom Jan 25,2010 12:10 pm || Up

                  My issues with Joe Buck run much deeper than his insistence on slobbering on Favre’s knob. In fact, one could make the argument that Buck’s just following the status quo there.

        • mk Jan 25,2010 4:43 pm || Up

          1. You hate any film or television show that dares to even gesture in the direction of emotional resonance.

          2. You hate any piece of writing longer than five sentences.

          3. You are doing that lame trick of associating everyone who likes something with its most jack off enthusiasts.

          4. If FK’s search function sucked less, I would locate the pre-Season 3 exchange wherein you derided Mad Men, then in the next comment said you’d watched all of 15 minutes of one episode. Where does the school of informed professional film crit stand on that methodology?

          5. There are numerous pompous blowhard amatuer film crit ruminations on every well-received piece of art, ever. I don’t know why those relating to Mad Men are particularly worthy of your ire.

          6. Wake me when you stop watching reality TV and late night ha ha shows.

          7. Yes, I am irritated.

          • mikeA Jan 25,2010 4:49 pm || Up

            4. He read my review, and that is and should be sufficient.

          • monkeyball Jan 25,2010 4:58 pm || Up

            7. Success!

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            • mk Jan 25,2010 5:29 pm || Up

              I am right on the verge of making a Richard Kelly dick joke. Don’t test me.

              • monkeyball Jan 25,2010 5:32 pm || Up

                I wouldn’t find it funny, but only because I don’t like you.

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          • nevermoor Jan 25,2010 5:34 pm || Up

            3, 4, 5, 6 = rock on.

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
            • JediLeroy Jan 25,2010 5:52 pm || Up

              3, 4, 5, 6 =/= I love you more.

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          • Leopold Bloom Jan 26,2010 8:23 am || Up

            so you’re saying I should watch Mad Men?

      • monkeyball Jan 25,2010 4:29 pm || Up

        Then again, he’s no Ed Koch

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  7. monkeyball Jan 25,2010 10:41 am
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    • nevermoor Jan 25,2010 10:52 am || Up

      That’s a fantastic article, and a term I hope catches on.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • monkeyball Jan 25,2010 11:06 am || Up

        I really wish he’d just gone for the simpler rhyme and scansion of “deficit cocks.” I’d be willing to bet that was his original concept, and his editors insisted on the (slight, not entirely unwelcome, perhaps-even-more-on-target) change.

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  8. monkeyball Jan 25,2010 10:45 am
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    • nevermoor Jan 25,2010 10:56 am || Up

      Another reason to hope we get Sheets. He may be broken, but he’s my SNT dammit! Also, why on earth would Damon ever come here?

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • green star oakland Jan 25,2010 11:04 am || Up

        So we can play an outfield with Cust and Damon in it … with Crisp in center, Davis playing a *very* deep short, and a unicorn-mounted Ellis covering all of the middle infield.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
        • monkeyball Jan 25,2010 11:11 am || Up

          No, I think it means Damon would take a spot at the back end of the pitching rotation.

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    • lenscrafters Jan 25,2010 1:19 pm || Up

      Initial reaction when hearing the Ben Sheets news: oh great, just another guy the A’s are gonna finish in second place for.

  9. nevermoor Jan 25,2010 11:03 am

    Rock on.

    Democrats, in other words, can either succeed or fail.

    Whatever political beliefs you have, I think that point is clear. You might want Democrats to fail, but not passing HCR is certainly a Democratic failure. The whole memo is great.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  10. monkeyball Jan 25,2010 12:03 pm
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    • monkeyball Jan 25,2010 12:04 pm || Up

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  11. monkeyball Jan 25,2010 12:04 pm
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    • Ice Cream Jan 25,2010 1:20 pm || Up

      Until now, the chimp-proof camera has always been a Chimera.

      Where is the good in "good-bye"?
      • monkeyball Jan 25,2010 1:27 pm || Up

        Would you call someone hit by a local rapid-transit train a Bartee?

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      • monkeyball Jan 25,2010 1:28 pm || Up

        Paging Jedi Leroy: I need photographic proof of the existence of the Chimney.

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  12. monkeyball Jan 25,2010 12:05 pm

    The Convergence

    They should get Joe Buck to do color commentary for the broadcast.

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    • Leopold Bloom Jan 25,2010 12:11 pm || Up

      “That chin is disgusting! I’m sorry you in America had to see that.”

  13. monkeyball Jan 25,2010 12:39 pm
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  14. green star oakland Jan 25,2010 2:17 pm
    Caption Contest

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • Ice Cream Jan 25,2010 2:22 pm || Up

      “There was never any denying Grandma’s animal magnetism.”

      Where is the good in "good-bye"?
    • nevermoor Jan 25,2010 2:51 pm || Up

      VWs make real men horny.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • Ice Cream Jan 25,2010 3:01 pm || Up

      Like father, like son.

      Where is the good in "good-bye"?
    • monkeyball Jan 25,2010 3:09 pm || Up

      We got a package deal on our family vacation.

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    • Leopold Bloom Jan 25,2010 3:40 pm || Up

      The compass says north, but I think we should head that direction…

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 25,2010 4:00 pm || Up

      Towards the end, the Dharma Initiative would accept almost anyone.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • JediLeroy Jan 25,2010 4:07 pm || Up

        The island is known for endowing people with special powers.

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      • monkeyball Jan 25,2010 4:09 pm || Up

        {snerk}

        Towards the end

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    • monkeyball Jan 25,2010 4:12 pm || Up

      Introducing the cast of The Magnificent Andersons, the groundbreaking PT-Wes collaboration.

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    • green star oakland Jan 25,2010 4:15 pm || Up

      For once Grandma could see the wood for the trees.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  15. monkeyball Jan 25,2010 4:43 pm
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  16. monkeyball Jan 25,2010 5:06 pm

    You have got [W:AL] to be shitting me

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    • nevermoor Jan 25,2010 5:43 pm || Up

      Obligatory MY > A link. Would be awesome if we cut some of the stupid crap and used it to increase non-stupid spending. Especially if we also do other smart policy things.

      Of course, 100% of conservablogs and 70% of liberalogs are in full on reflexively-hate-all-things-obama mode.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • monkeyball Jan 25,2010 5:45 pm || Up

        Was just about to link that same thing.

        Yeah, I dunno that MY is really saying that he thinks whateverthefuckthey’redoing is a good idea, on the politics or on the polity:

        I suspect this initiative was deliberately leaked to progressive bloggers in an effort to get denounced by the left and I don’t want to give them the satisfaction

        Basically, he’s saying that there is no realistic scenario to actually cut anything — unless Obama goes all Sergio Leone on Congress, which would be … unpredictable.

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        • nevermoor Jan 25,2010 6:03 pm || Up

          What he’s doing is taking a deep breath. And you’re right, it could well be a bad and/or meaningless thing, but it isn’t zomgtheidiotsareinchargeoftheasylum level news either. Contra A.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • mk Jan 25,2010 6:26 pm || Up

            reflexively-hate-all-things-obama mode

            They need their fix every few months. After the 2008 GOP convention, August of last year, now …

            I’m with Joni Mitchell on this one:

            Don’t it always seem to go
            That you don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone

            Contra A

            God I wish he would just migrate to Twitter where he belongs.

            • JediLeroy Jan 25,2010 7:27 pm || Up

              In Fremont, they were going to pave a parking lot to put up paradise.

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            • monkeyball Jan 25,2010 8:20 pm || Up

              You and nm are, frankly, being pretty stupid lumping A (especially in this instance, as with his other econ criticisms) in with the hate-O crowd — he’s got a set of policy issues that he’s been consistently correct on, called the O team on it early and often, and kept getting proved right. You’re just providing the mirror image of “Bush Derangement Syndrome” metacriticism.

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              • mk Jan 25,2010 9:21 pm || Up

                I’d be more convinced if two line snarklinks didn’t comprise 90% of his body of work.

                I don’t think those sorts of posts constitute real arguments, and I don’t respect that style. I think it is inherently evasive, though of course he gets credit for being a fearless truth teller. Derisive comment, link, blockquote. Rinse, repeat. Never explains much, never states his case in depth, never engages in rigorous debate. He just sort of sits to the side, calling everyone a wanker.

                I know you believe to your core that one sentence is as good as fifty, but just because that is true at the extremes doesn’t mean it’s not, well, a crock.

                If I need a snark fix, I’ll go to Cole, who is much funnier. If I want to read about policy, there are tons of smart folks out there who bother with paragraphs.

                Also, all the pet names (Timmeh, etc.) are obnoxious.

                Lastly: I think if you share his worldview exactly, it is probably very gratifying to read Atrios, because you will be saying “fuck yeah” a lot. But if you do not, reading him is pointless, because he is not interested in persuading you. So it mostly reads as dickish and cryptic.

              • mk Jan 25,2010 9:46 pm || Up

                Addendum:

                Part of this is my particular sensibility. I respect people who will get in there and make their case, whether I agree with them or not. Greenwald is a crazy person sometimes, but I will give him that. Same thing with PT: he will argue the thing out. Sometimes that can be problematic, but there is an honesty to it, a respect for the reader and/or adversary. Atrios just doesn’t bother with that; instead of trying to convince me, he’s telling me to toss off.

              • nevermoor Jan 25,2010 9:55 pm || Up

                I’m sorry. Didn’t realize calling the entire administration idiots because they announce a plan outline that could be either good, bad, or useless (but score a cheap political point) made me stupid. I would have thought a wait-and-see approach made more sense.

                But that’s hard to one-line snark, so A does what A does.

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  17. monkeyball Jan 25,2010 5:34 pm
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    • nevermoor Jan 25,2010 6:07 pm || Up

      Meh. Shitty campaigner. Blaming republicans is stupid, since their whole goal is to win.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • JediLeroy Jan 25,2010 7:34 pm || Up

        Yeah, that’s a load of crap. It’s not as if MTV or other media outlets haven’t influenced elections the other way in the past. What, should we go all China and only allow people to broadcast what we want?

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        • monkeyball Jan 25,2010 8:22 pm || Up

          I seem to have missed the “… and that’s wrong of them to have done that!” plaint in the observation/analysis.

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          • JediLeroy Jan 25,2010 9:03 pm || Up

            You’re right–I must’ve inferred it. After all the previous Fairness Doctrine stuff I heard before, I must’ve assumed that was the angle the author was taking. After a second read, it seems like it’s more of a “Media elites don’t want to admit that people they think aren’t as important as them actually do have a big influence” angle.

            My bad.

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            • monkeyball Jan 25,2010 9:11 pm || Up

              Speaking of FD, I have a question: where does the talk that leftists want to revive it come from?

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              • JediLeroy Jan 25,2010 9:27 pm || Up

                It was Durbin/Pelosi before O crushed it.

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                • nevermoor Jan 25,2010 10:03 pm || Up

                  Yeah, seems like a stupid (and clearly unconstitutional) idea. At the same time, that also describes most of Rush’s.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • JediLeroy Jan 25,2010 10:11 pm || Up

                  Re: Rush–Yeah, but I often find myself screaming “f**k yeah” when I listen to him.

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                • nevermoor Jan 26,2010 8:57 am || Up

                  Well… I couldn’t resist the cheap shot.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • monkeyball Jan 26,2010 9:25 am || Up

                  I’m not taking Human Events’ word for that. That’s on the level of a DKos diary.

                  you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
                • monkeyball Jan 26,2010 9:27 am || Up

                  And as for Durbin:

                  In late February, the Senate voted 87-11 to block the reinstatement of the Fairness Doctrine in an amendment offered by Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) to the D.C. voting-rights bill. Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), who voted for DeMint’s measure, offered an alternative that would encourage diversity in communication media ownership. Durbin’s amendment passed 57-41.

                  you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
          • nevermoor Jan 25,2010 9:57 pm || Up

            I’m not inferring that. I’m saying that whining because the slimy GOP/Fox/local media cabal said mean things and cause you to lose is 0% useful. That fact, standing alone, is proof your campaign sucked.

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
            • JediLeroy Jan 25,2010 10:17 pm || Up

              By the way,

              div#container {
              padding: 0; }

              .colone {width: 200px;}
              .colthree {width: 300px;}

              changing 300 to 260px or so would probably solve the Dubai-tower-of-text issue. The thread depth is still limited to a specific number of replies, but we’d at least be able to read the deepest comments. And I feel the right column is still wide enough at 260px to not feel ugly.

              I installed firebug and overwrote FK’s CSS, so it shows up that way for me anyway, as long as I’m on a computer where I’ve made the change. But a permanent CSS change could help everyone. Just a suggestion.

              az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
              • nevermoor Jan 26,2010 9:01 am || Up

                Changed. Thanks for the suggestion. If people have any other suggestions on this level I’m happy to fix them (and if people don’t like the changes, say that too). CSS/design is not my strong point.

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • JediLeroy Jan 26,2010 2:09 pm || Up

                  Thanks! It looks much better, IMO.

                  az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
              • nevermoor Jan 26,2010 9:06 am || Up

                Also, the depth limitation is 100% artificial. I can add to it, but I can’t (easily) do the ** functionality where you can keep replying but the width doesn’t decrease.

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
            • monkeyball Jan 26,2010 9:30 am || Up

              Again, where’s the alleged whining? I’ve agreed all along that Coakley was a terrible candidate (I think I’m more vehement on that than you are); this is just analysis — are you denying that sports chat was a factor at all, or that we should look at factors beyond the candidate? McCain, too, was a shitty candidate with a shitty campaign, but there’s a school of thought that the economy simply doomed the GOP in ’08 — would you say that constitutes “whining” about the economy?

              you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
              • nevermoor Jan 26,2010 9:44 am || Up

                sports talk radio demonized Martha Coakley endlessly

                They “demonized” her because she proved she was ignorant of the one thing they care about… sports.

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • monkeyball Jan 26,2010 9:48 am || Up

                  1. That’s not what the item appeared to be saying — they described her sports gaffes as an aside

                  2. I presume you’re confident in asserting that because of all the Massachusetts sports chat you listened to in the runup to the special election

                  you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
                • nevermoor Jan 26,2010 9:53 am || Up

                  1. The item appeared to be saying woe is Coakley for she was demonized by sports news.

                  2. You presume wrong, of course. I assert that because that’s what I heard.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  18. FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 25,2010 9:42 pm

    I can’t believe the Super Bowl line opened at only Indy -4. Get your money down soon, line’s at 5.5 and climbing fast. Feels like it should be 7.5 to me, and I’d probably lay that too…Indy’s going to win big.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • nevermoor Jan 25,2010 9:56 pm || Up

      Dunno… It’s hard to win big when the other guys score 30 points.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • mk Jan 25,2010 10:52 pm || Up

        Wouldn’t you say the Colts defense matches up decently with the New Orleans offense, in terms of speed and scheme? A bit like how the old Dungy Tampa defenses matched up well with the Warner/Faulk Rams (granted those Tampa defenses were historically good).

        • Leopold Bloom Jan 26,2010 8:30 am || Up

          Rams won, 13-9.

          • mk Jan 26,2010 11:05 am || Up

            Right, I just meant that Bucs defense played that Rams offense well. It’s not Sapp/Brooks/et al’s fault Shaun King was their QB.

            • Leopold Bloom Jan 26,2010 11:41 am || Up

              Yeah, plus they kinda got screwed at the end, right? Some kind of catch that was ruled not a catch?

        • nevermoor Jan 26,2010 9:04 am || Up

          I don’t know. The Saints have a lot of hard-match-up guys, and it isn’t like the Colts are a stud defense (FO has them ranked #19). I’m expecting a shootout, so if betting were legal I’d take the over and leave it at that.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 26,2010 10:03 am || Up

            Saints played the sixth weakest schedule in football, and their defense is highly suspect…looks OK if a team like Minnie obliges with a truckload of turnovers, but that won’t be the case with Indy.

            Saints could score 30 and Indy would still cover. I’m seeing something like 41-24.

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
            • nevermoor Jan 26,2010 10:09 am || Up

              Could be. I don’t see the Colts holding them to 24 (or 30). I do probably see the Colts winning because Manning is better than Brees and most of the rest cancels out.

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • TJ Jan 26,2010 9:58 am || Up

      According to DVOA the Saints are actually the better team across the balance of their regular season body of work:

      http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teameff

      And how are we supposed to bet on the Superbowl after betting the house on the Pac-10 in bowl season :)

    • mjdittmer Jan 26,2010 5:00 pm || Up

      Ooo, thanks for the tip, FSU. (Note to self–bet the farm on Saints)

  19. nevermoor Jan 26,2010 9:25 am

    I have friends that are mormons. There are a lot of good things about mormons. But my god is this a bad thing about mormons:

    “This campaign is entirely under the priesthood’s direction,” said one memo written by an LDS official and turned over by official Prop 8 proponent Mark Jansson.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • monkeyball Jan 26,2010 9:49 am || Up

      Would you be saying that if they had run an organized campaign against Prop 8?

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • nevermoor Jan 26,2010 9:54 am || Up

        Yes. Churches should not run actual political campaigns. See, e.g., 26 U.S.C. 501(c)(3):

        Corporations, and any community chest, fund, or foundation, organized and operated exclusively for religious, charitable, scientific, testing for public safety, literary, or educational purposes, or to foster national or international amateur sports competition (but only if no part of its activities involve the provision of athletic facilities or equipment), or for the prevention of cruelty to children or animals, no part of the net earnings of which inures to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual, no substantial part of the activities of which is carrying on propaganda, or otherwise attempting, to influence legislation (except as otherwise provided in subsection (h)), and which does not participate in, or intervene in (including the publishing or distributing of statements), any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office.

        Emphasis added (and churches do not fall within subsection (h) exceptions).

        LDS should have its exemption pulled for this.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  20. mikeA Jan 26,2010 9:57 am
  21. nevermoor Jan 26,2010 10:03 am

    Individual ticket sales open now. I just got some nice ones.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • green star oakland Jan 26,2010 11:56 am || Up

      Hmm – says January 30th on the web.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • nevermoor Jan 26,2010 5:20 pm || Up

        The jumbos (which I linked to) are on sale now.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • green star oakland Jan 26,2010 7:54 pm || Up

          Cool – I hadn’t noticed that. Done.

          If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
          • nevermoor Jan 26,2010 7:59 pm || Up

            Yeah, they seem like a pretty good deal (either $45 for second deck behind the visitor’s on deck circle with $10 credit or third deck right behind home plate for $15 with a $6 credit).

            I’ll be in the plaza club on opening day.

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  22. nevermoor Jan 26,2010 10:21 am

    I tend to agree with Ezra (and Orrin) that this is a smart way to leverage tax-hatred. Thoughts?

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  23. Poppy Jan 26,2010 1:07 pm

    Only Jan. 26 (H.B., Jennifer, if you ever visit us any more) and I think I’ve already fallen behind on my quota of .33 comments per day. And since I’m not paying attention, I need someone to please tell me who mother pucker is?

    There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
    • monkeyball Jan 26,2010 1:11 pm || Up

      Didn’t you already ask that?

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • Poppy Jan 26,2010 1:16 pm || Up

        Not me… unless my brainwaves typed something I didn’t have time to when I first saw whoever that is sometime last week…

        There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
        • Leopold Bloom Jan 26,2010 1:18 pm || Up

          pucking insane.

          • Poppy Jan 26,2010 1:26 pm || Up

            Why do I have no idea who that is? :(

            (sorry, mp…)

            There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
            • mk Jan 26,2010 1:47 pm || Up

              Poppy, not only are you are not helping with the wooing, you are interfering with the critical post-woo retention phase. Next you’ll be asking him to stand up in front of the class and tell us about himself (at which point he might have to imagine us all naked; that would be weird).

              Leave the man be. Let him get his feet on the ground. I, for example, do not plan to tell him all his political opinions are stupid for at least 3-4 weeks. The industry term is “reeling them in”. We need you on board with this ASAP.

              • Leopold Bloom Jan 26,2010 2:02 pm || Up

                HANG DAI!

              • monkeyball Jan 26,2010 2:05 pm || Up

                WAR CRIMINAL!!!

                Oh, sorry — I thought you said “the critical post-yoo retention phase.”

                you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
              • Poppy Jan 26,2010 3:21 pm || Up

                {cries}

                I honestly feel terrible that I don’t know who that is, if that helps. It’s like saying, “It’s so nice to meet you!” to a coworker’s spouse that you’ve already “met” four times and maybe even had a conversation with. I guess the equivalent here would be if I included him in QsOTM…

                I’m a horrible person.

                There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
                • Leopold Bloom Jan 26,2010 4:50 pm || Up

                  You’re a horrible person who abandoned the QotM franchise to BBG on **.

                  Viddy well, brother. Viddy well.

                • Poppy Jan 26,2010 6:37 pm || Up

                  It’s just been abandoned, period. Nothing now but people going “When are we going to have QOTM again?” Because mine were much better than hers.

                  There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
                • JediLeroy Jan 28,2010 7:14 pm || Up

                  I must say, mine at least had a positive VORP(oppy).

                  az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
                • Poppy Jan 29,2010 3:16 pm || Up

                  TINSTAARP(oppy).

                  There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
                • mk Jan 26,2010 5:14 pm || Up

                  Here you go

                  If you have driven him away, a) you are going to have to produce a replacement, and b) an escalator clause in your FK participation agreement will be triggered, bumping your comment quota to .75 per day.

                • Leopold Bloom Jan 26,2010 5:37 pm || Up

                  those are fair terms, and consistent with the contract we all signed.

                • Poppy Jan 26,2010 6:38 pm || Up

                  Can I just beg him to come back?

                  There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
  24. green star oakland Jan 26,2010 2:46 pm
    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • Leopold Bloom Jan 26,2010 3:06 pm || Up

      STOP POSTING NAKED PICTURES OF ME!

      • monkeyball Jan 26,2010 5:23 pm || Up

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
        • JediLeroy Jan 26,2010 5:33 pm || Up

          LB’s a brick……….house?

          az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
          • Leopold Bloom Jan 26,2010 5:38 pm || Up

            I AM, in fact, mightymighty. And, per the pic, I’m letting it all hang out.

            • Ice Cream Jan 26,2010 6:51 pm || Up

              LOL

              Well-played, Commodore.

              Where is the good in "good-bye"?
    • Ice Cream Jan 26,2010 6:57 pm || Up

      (Imagines his threefive-point stance …)

      PECS ON THE GROUND! PECS ON THE GROUND!
      LOOKIN’ LIKE A FOOL WITH YOUR PECS ON THE GROUND!

      Where is the good in "good-bye"?
      • monkeyball Jan 26,2010 7:04 pm || Up

        The family-newspaper version, eh?

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  25. lenscrafters Jan 26,2010 3:05 pm

    I’m thinking the uncertainty around Braden’s foot is a big reason for this signing.

    Also, this is interesting.

    • nevermoor Jan 26,2010 5:27 pm || Up

      Citation needed

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • mikeA Jan 26,2010 5:28 pm || Up

      Yeah, second part is that guy talking out of his ass…

      • lenscrafters Jan 26,2010 6:20 pm || Up

        John Perrotto is definitely Ray Ratto’s long lost brother.

        • Leopold Bloom Jan 26,2010 6:25 pm || Up

          It might be him with a different fake mustache on….

  26. mjdittmer Jan 26,2010 5:04 pm

    Let not the dislike of ** cartoons lead to ill feelings toward all cartoons in general. This one, for instance.
    Also, does no one read the MSM anymore? Poor print journalists, obslete just hours after they’ve gone to press.

    • monkeyball Jan 26,2010 5:22 pm || Up

      Ratto, like Knapp and Atrios, requires a warning label.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • JediLeroy Jan 26,2010 5:35 pm || Up

        C’mon, he totally warned us:

        Poor print journalists, obslete just hours after they’ve gone to press.

        az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
        • Leopold Bloom Jan 26,2010 5:41 pm || Up

          I’m a man of inconstant girth myself, but I like to assume that “obslete” is a mix of obsolete and obese.

          • monkeyball Jan 26,2010 5:43 pm || Up

            OBSLETE URGES MOMS TO GET DEGREE

            you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
            • Leopold Bloom Jan 26,2010 5:47 pm || Up

              Doesn’t work without the image of the dancing.

    • nevermoor Jan 26,2010 5:28 pm || Up

      Ratto link w/o warning = evil.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • Leopold Bloom Jan 26,2010 5:39 pm || Up

        Ratto’s an evil, bitter fuckhead, and I’m glad he wrote this on the day we signed Sheets.

        Suck on it, fat boy.

        • mjdittmer Jan 26,2010 7:40 pm || Up

          Mmm, well … I still like him. But yeah, all opinions welcome and all that. Fuck all y’all!

  27. monkeyball Jan 26,2010 6:53 pm

    Balloting is closed. Grant is officially elected King.

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • nevermoor Jan 26,2010 7:13 pm || Up

      But… but… I linked to Clay Davis first…

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • monkeyball Jan 26,2010 7:16 pm || Up

        You owe your soul to the company store

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
        • nevermoor Jan 26,2010 7:41 pm || Up

          Wait, the company store bought my student loan debt? Bastards.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • Leopold Bloom Jan 26,2010 7:48 pm || Up

            Unfortunately for you, the company store bundled that debt with several others, all of which my brother and me purchased through a third-tier trader out of Taiwan.

            We’ll see you at 8am at the sign shop.

            • nevermoor Jan 26,2010 8:01 pm || Up

              That would be a very poor use of your freshly acquired asset.

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
              • Leopold Bloom Jan 26,2010 8:04 pm || Up

                what do you do, again? law? nonno, computers. okay, we can use you.

                Know Illustrator at all?

                • nevermoor Jan 26,2010 8:06 pm || Up

                  I do law (hence my 501(c)(3) outrage). I was a CS major in college, though, so I can code just enough to slap together a user-friendly system like wordpress and tweak it (horribly inefficiently I’m sure) on things I care about.

                  My graphic design ability is emphatically NOT what you guys are looking for.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • Leopold Bloom Jan 26,2010 10:12 pm || Up

                  okay, so you can defend us from lawsuits, then.

                  ….

                  ..

                  Let’s go back to the original idea–we’ll see you at 8am to put together signs.

                • Leopold Bloom Jan 26,2010 10:59 pm || Up

                  You punch in at 8:30 every morning, except you punch in at 7:30 following a business holiday, unless it’s a Monday, then you punch in at 8 o’clock. Punch in late and they dock you. Incoming signs get a voucher, outgoing signs provide a voucher. Move any sign without a voucher and they dock you. Letter size signs a green voucher, oversize signs a yellow voucher, parcel size signs a maroon voucher. Wrong color voucher and they dock you! 6787049A/6. That is your employee number. It will not be repeated! Without your employee number you cannot get your paycheck. Inter-office signs is code 37, intra-office signs 37-3, outside signs is 3-37. Code it wrong and they dock you! This has been your orientation. Is there anything you do not understand, is there anything you understand only partially? If you have not been fully oriented, you must file a complaint with personnel. File a faulty complaint and they dock you!

                • 5Aces Jan 27,2010 6:51 am || Up

                  Well, I generally come in at least fifteen minutes late, ah, I use the side door – that way Lumbergh can’t see me, heh heh – and, uh, after that I just sorta space out for about an hour. Yeah, I just stare at my desk; but it looks like I’m working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch, too. I’d say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work.

                  Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
                • nevermoor Jan 27,2010 9:16 am || Up

                  Just don’t sell any actual signs to anyone (or promise to) and you’ll be free of lawsuits from customers.

                  That’ll be $300.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • Leopold Bloom Jan 27,2010 11:30 am || Up

                  Lawyers suck.

                • monkeyball Jan 27,2010 12:12 pm || Up

                  For $300/hr, not enough.

                  you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
              • monkeyball Jan 26,2010 10:48 pm || Up

                TWSS

                you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  28. monkeyball Jan 26,2010 6:54 pm

    Boy, y’all’re all backsliding on your New Year’s resolutions, ain’t you? (Except mikeA, who didn’t even need to make one.)

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • Leopold Bloom Jan 26,2010 7:11 pm || Up

      I got sucked back into the sign game, mb. And the sign game is an unforgiving mistress.

      • monkeyball Jan 26,2010 7:14 pm || Up

        Oh, all of your mistresses are unforgiving.

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  29. nevermoor Jan 26,2010 7:21 pm

    Let’s bomb the shit out of something. And shoot down airplanes.

    -Because we can.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • Ice Cream Jan 27,2010 12:56 pm || Up

      Planes on the ground! Planes on the ground!
      Lookin’ like a fool with your planes on the ground!

      Where is the good in "good-bye"?
  30. Leopold Bloom Jan 26,2010 11:12 pm

    Is it right to hate 7 year-olds for making you feel like an even bigger loser than you already are?

    • green star oakland Jan 26,2010 11:16 pm || Up

      Yeah, but does he have man-boobs?

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.

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