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  1. Whatever
  2. Yikes
  3. Also yikes
  4. Geez, isn’t this the way it always is? You and your pals get together to share some common interests and values, and then once things get big and successful, the Man comes in and starts making you follow “rules”: “bans on suicide bombings against civilians, burning down schools, or cutting off ears, lips and tongues”
  5. Yeah, good luck with that
  6. Yglesiasm: “if Grijalva feels the need to take out some anger on the Senate, he should pass health care then go find a particularly annoying Senator and punch him in the face. Just—bam!—pop him. Assuming he picked a reasonable target I might well applaud.”
  7. See my question here
  8. Uh … WTF?
  9. recent evidence suggests northern African pythons are reproducing on the city’s western boundaries
  10. That’s gold, Jerrygold!
  11. WARNING: Atrios link
  12. Your FK Diverticulitis Update
  13. F(il)M: this looks fun, this looks … interesting, and this looks GREAT
  14. A predicate that we all subscribe to
  15. letters ought to be sealed and private
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89 thoughts on “A predicate that we all subscribe to: The Grill 012110

  1. andeux Jan 21,2010 11:31 am

    8. Ugh. Yeah, WTF?
    9. Sounds like Samuel L. Jackson needs to get involved.
    15. That calcaterrisk should be required reading for certain sports bloggers. (Edit: Hm, it’s possible that by making this comment I’m now the one being a passive-aggressive condescending prick. Damn, this blogging thing is trickier than I thought.)

    TINSTAAFK
    • monkeyball Jan 21,2010 11:48 am || Up

      15.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  2. FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 21,2010 11:32 am

    With little fanfare (and certainly no FanFest), the A’s announced that single game tickets will go on sale at 9:00 am Saturday, Jan. 30.

    My usual M.O. has been to get to the box office some time that day to buy tix for Opening Night and for every available $2 Wednesday game. Yes, tix for those games remain available for a long time after they go on sale, but the quality of available seats within the cheapest sections declines pretty quickly. And in light of the team’s commitment to harshly enforce seat assignments on Wednesdays which I saw last year (removed from my upgraded seats for the first time in over a decade), it’s worth the effort to me to get $2 seats with the reasonable views provided in Plaza Level Sec. 226, say, instead of virtually unwatchable vantage point of Plaza Reserved Sec. 237.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • monkeyball Jan 21,2010 11:47 am || Up

      Someone should really snap up the username HarshSeatEnforcement.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • monkeyball Jan 21,2010 2:48 pm || Up

        … and speaking of Harsh

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • Poppy Jan 21,2010 4:10 pm || Up

      Want $2 Wednesday (*night*) seats in 215 that they can’t chase you out of?

      There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 21,2010 4:35 pm || Up

        Oh my, yes.

        Also, my regular ballgame buddy is apparently moving to Colorado this spring (unless I can find a local sign shop to be his ball and chain rather than his CO-based soon-to-be-wife), so I’ll be putting out a casting call for new ballgame pals. BART lot beer drinkers preferred.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • Poppy Jan 21,2010 4:45 pm || Up

          I can’t find your email address among my contacts because I remember that it’s something that isn’t your name, but I can’t remember what that something is…

          There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
          • Ice Cream Jan 21,2010 4:53 pm || Up

            Check your email.

            Where is the good in "good-bye"?
            • Poppy Jan 21,2010 4:58 pm || Up

              I wasn’t talking to you, Larry. ;)

              There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
          • FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 21,2010 5:15 pm || Up

            redtruckertwenty-one at hotmail dot com, except with 21 instead of twentyone.

            BTW, for reasons I don’t understand, here on FK if you click the edit button on someone’s comment, the dialog box which comes up includes their email addy.

            [Edit: Egad, you’re right!]

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
            • nevermoor Jan 22,2010 11:42 am || Up

              Hmm… Good or bad thing? (not that I’m sure whether I can fix it)

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • TJ Jan 21,2010 4:30 pm || Up

      FSU- I’m curious to see what you think about the “Value Deck” seats. Basically they took the seats in the 3rd deck behind home plate that they opened up for the “all you can eat” section last year and made them $12 per game ($15 premium) which includes $6 of concession stand value. That actually sounds like a perfect fit for me. It winds up being half the cost of the bleacher seats since I’m guaranteed to use the concession value on at least a beer, if not a dog and a mixer.

      For the last several years I’ve always done a Fielder’s Choice package w/ several friends. Every year we end up dumping tons of tickets into the trash at the end of the season (even in years when the A’s were in contention the whole season). We started off doing bleacher seats since we liked being able to pick our own seats especially since we’d often have additional people tagging along with us. Plus the package price of those seats was around $7 so nobody really cared they didn’t get full value out of the package.

      Then last year we upgraded to Field Level seats since 1) we all have more disposable income these days, 2) we like being able to see the whole field, and 3) we thought that with the higher cost per ticket we would make more of an effort to either attend the game or sell the tickets and would wind up throwing fewer of them away. Turns out we ended up throwing just as many tickets away as ever and ended up spending a lot more money for a pretty negligible benefit.

      This year I’m advocating for a FSU style plan. $2 Wednesday seats and a handful of the Value Deck seats for Friday/Saturday games. From experience- is there generally any kind of line that forms on that day? I think I remember reading a post of yours on AN in the past that indicated you can pretty much walk up and buy the tickets without any wait.

      Also- are there $2 tickets even for the premium games? I can’t remember how that generally works. There are Wednesday night games against the Yankees twice and Angels once this year.

      • FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 21,2010 5:13 pm || Up

        I was unaware that the upper deck sections had been rebranded as Value Deck seating. I will definitely check that out this year…$12 is only three bucks more than the $9 lowest priced tix, which are my basic non-Wednesday unit price. I’m not a big concessions consumer, except for games I take my kids to, but I’d surely use $6 worth of concession credit if I had it. I wonder if it’s good for all concessions, though…I’ve been told that the previous All You Can Eat deal was severely limited to a few basic items made available in the third deck stands, specifically excluded beer, and involved waiting in long slow lines of multi-inning duration. But if it’s a $12 seat with a $6 coupon I can use at any concession stand, that sounds like a very good deal. And I’d very much like to get back into my ancestral third deck homeland.

        Last year they removed all restrictions for $2 Wednesday tickets, so they were good for all Weds games, including Yanks/Sox/Gints, day or night. Before last year such games were excluded. Hopefully they continue last year’s practice.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • TJ Jan 21,2010 5:26 pm || Up

          As I read it, the description online indicates every concession stand as well as merchandise retailer (you can use the 6 bones on merch as well) in the stadium is able to use the Jumbo Ticket:
          http://oakland.athletics.mlb.com/oak/ticketing/jumbo_tickets.jsp

          Good to hear about the $2 tickets, I hope it falls that way this season as well.

          • nevermoor Jan 22,2010 11:44 am || Up

            I know that’s how the Giants work (Season Tickets get some credit). It just has to be a vendor that has the barcode scanner (which seemed to track vendors that take credit cards).

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
            • batgirl Jan 22,2010 1:02 pm || Up

              I just read the Jumbo Ticket FAQ and didn’t see an answer to this– any idea if can you use the Jumbo concession value anytime, or just at that day’s game?

              Meaning if I had $6 jumbo dollars on 6 different game dates could I combine all six into $36 to use on a t’shirt at the end of the season? Or do they expire once that game is gone.

              • green star oakland Jan 22,2010 1:05 pm || Up

                Just at that day’s game. In the small print

                Any remaining value on the ticket which is not used by the conclusion of the game on the ticket may not be used at a later date, replaced or redeemed in any way. In the event of rainout prior to completion of an “official game” or rescheduling of a game, remaining value may be redeemed for merchandise or food during the rescheduled game. In the event a game is canceled and not rescheduled, added-value will not be transferred or redeemable.

                If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
                • nevermoor Jan 22,2010 1:10 pm || Up

                  Yeah. The way it worked in SF (note: I’m assuming based on very little the A’s will be the same) is that your ticket’s barcode could be scanned at a concession and function like a gift card.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • batgirl Jan 22,2010 1:18 pm || Up

                  OK, thanks for seeing that for me–that makes it much less attractive for me then.

        • monkeyball Jan 21,2010 5:31 pm || Up

          ancestral third deck homeland

          Christ, what a diaspora

          you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
        • green star oakland Jan 21,2010 5:52 pm || Up

          This is news to me too – and very welcome. 317 has some of the best seats in the house, and I’d love to be able to bring Eloise back.

          If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
          • mikeA Jan 21,2010 6:14 pm || Up

            Yeah, 317 used to be where I’d sit whenever I went.

  3. monkeyball Jan 21,2010 11:56 am

    Boy, do I hope Sullivan’s right on this:

    If Obama can rally the ranks at the SOTU, frame the issue as doing something versus doing nothing, this could be a pivotal moment when the GOP’s bluff is called. In prime time.

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  4. green star oakland Jan 21,2010 11:56 am

    7. Mind-boggling

    with some exceptions like the Murrah federal office building in my state, Oklahoma.

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • monkeyball Jan 21,2010 12:08 pm || Up

      Inhofe is truly demented.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • andeux Jan 21,2010 12:13 pm || Up

        I stand by this comment. And this one.

        TINSTAAFK
  5. monkeyball Jan 21,2010 11:59 am

    TNC:

    Almost by definition, the things that are most controversial will be those that people don’t agree on. If what’s most needed is the same thing as what’s most controversial, how much consensus do you really expect? Seriously, I’m baffled.

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • mk Jan 21,2010 12:08 pm || Up

      I guess that’s true, but what is his point?

      • monkeyball Jan 21,2010 12:19 pm || Up

        Why is the White House still targeting “bipartisan” as an achievable goal?

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
        • nevermoor Jan 22,2010 11:46 am || Up

          Are they actually, or are they just saying it?

          The former would be bad, the latter is just good politics.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • monkeyball Jan 22,2010 12:33 pm || Up

            Actually, at this point (IMO, starting ~6mos ago), it’s increasingly bad politics.

            you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  6. monkeyball Jan 21,2010 12:05 pm

    Bee. Fucking. Zarre.

    (Via Ezra. I need to check out the VoltBros website regularly.)

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • Leopold Bloom Jan 21,2010 2:40 pm || Up

      wow.

      • Leopold Bloom Jan 21,2010 3:55 pm || Up

        seriously, he just cooked bread with a couple whippets whip-its, a paper cup and a microwave.

        I may have to overcome my resentments toward his victory.

        Is lv really McGuyver?

  7. mikeA Jan 21,2010 12:11 pm

    A’s interested in Sheets?
    I’d love to get him…

    • nevermoor Jan 22,2010 11:51 am || Up

      Me too. Depending, of course, on cost.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  8. monkeyball Jan 21,2010 12:16 pm

    Whoa:

    We all agree that there is some point at which the base should abandon the party, at least for a single election cycle. If Democrats voted to abolish Medicare, say. The question is whether collapse on this issue represents a betrayal of that magnitude. I’d say it’s pretty close …

    My basic position is that politics is a marketplace like any other, and preferences need to be known. If Democrats decide to drop something this important to the lives of hundreds of thousands of human beings because they lost a special election in Massachusetts, they should be punished in the sole way this marketplace allows.

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • nevermoor Jan 22,2010 11:53 am || Up

      I’m conflicted about this. (1) It’s circular firing squad approved; (2) it would feel good to extend a middle finger like that; (3) it’s exactly the opposite of productive.

      Those people should try to create a third party with a goal of winning house seats but not running a presidential candidate. Get enough of those and you could change the system.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • monkeyball Jan 22,2010 12:36 pm || Up

        My point in “whoa”ing it was that Ezra is precisely not “those people.” The Dems are seriously endangering their genuine, non-Code Pink, not-GOP’ers-making-points-against-DFHs base here.

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
        • nevermoor Jan 22,2010 12:42 pm || Up

          Right, I agree with that. And I’m feeling somewhat that way too. I just don’t think I could ever actually do it (and I do think HCR will pass, so I don’t want to do any circular-firing-squadding right now). If it doesn’t pass, I’ll have some soul searching to do.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • monkeyball Jan 22,2010 1:02 pm || Up

            You have more confidence in Nancy’s Jedi powers/cat-herding skilz than I do. Aside from that, we’re on the same page.

            you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  9. andeux Jan 21,2010 12:21 pm

    Does anyone know where the locals (Lee, Woolsey, etc.) stand on this?

    TINSTAAFK
    • monkeyball Jan 21,2010 12:30 pm || Up

      A Balloon Juice reader called Lee:

      Just talked to my congresswoman’s office – Barbara Lee.

      When I asked what her position was on passing the Senate Health Care bill, the guy said it is “up for debate at this point”.

      I registered my wish for Ms. Lee to vote for the Senate bill. He took my info.

      Look folks, if Barbara Lee, the only no vote against the AUMF following Sept 11th, is “up for debate” then call call call your representatives.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • nevermoor Jan 22,2010 11:54 am || Up

        My local being Pelosi, I haven’t called. I sort of feel like I should since everyone else is/should be doing it, but I do actually know where she stands and don’t see it changing.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  10. green star oakland Jan 21,2010 12:22 pm

    14.

    He settled for … a significant other with a face only a mother could love.

    But he didn’t keep Lackey.

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  11. lenscrafters Jan 21,2010 2:40 pm

    Blah. I’m beyond sick of this weather.

    • monkeyball Jan 21,2010 2:48 pm || Up

      I love this weather.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • nevermoor Jan 22,2010 11:54 am || Up

        I love drinking water, so I agree.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  12. Leopold Bloom Jan 21,2010 2:40 pm

    Send me bus fare. Please.

    • andeux Jan 21,2010 2:45 pm || Up

      “She was gone. His car was gone,”

      Eh.

      “The beer was gone.”

      Noooooooooo

      TINSTAAFK
      • Leopold Bloom Jan 21,2010 3:54 pm || Up

        But they decided to drive to New Port Richey and holed up in a room at the River Side Inn on U.S. 19, according to authorities.

        Authorities said, “holed up”?

    • green star oakland Jan 21,2010 2:46 pm || Up

      You’d only spend it on signs.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • Leopold Bloom Jan 21,2010 3:53 pm || Up

        I’m nutty like that.

        Four days in and I quite seriously want to burn the place to the ground and dance around the fire.

  13. FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 21,2010 4:31 pm

    I’m hardly a stickler for grammar, but shouldn’t a title which includes the word “Predicate” make a particular point of not ending in a preposition?

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • monkeyball Jan 21,2010 4:38 pm || Up

      1. The whole don’t-end-with-a-preposition regime has pretty much been overthrown thrown over

      2. Fragment Titles Perfectly OK

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • monkeyball Jan 21,2010 5:31 pm || Up

        Nice edit

        you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  14. monkeyball Jan 21,2010 5:39 pm

    otherwise worthless in fantasy realms? Really? For the last 3 years, Chavez’ value has only existed in fantasy realms.

    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • mk Jan 21,2010 6:03 pm || Up

      Apropos of nothing, is this any good?

      It just arrived in my mailbox, having completed a stealth queue ascension. I am looking at the disc envelope and feeling uninspired.

      • monkeyball Jan 21,2010 6:11 pm || Up

        I actually … hm. I don’t think I’ve seen it. But Melville is great. My fellow SFBABDPFTC members love it.

        We here at FK should all netflix-friend one another.

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        • mk Jan 21,2010 6:32 pm || Up

          I don’t know, that idea seems fraught with peril.

          First, I’d have to spend some time eradicating the mockable items. With 400+ films to sift through I’m bound to slip up, and where will my reputation be when mikeA spies Stranger Than Fiction and Whip It back to back at positions 233 and 234?

          • nevermoor Jan 22,2010 11:57 am || Up

            Also, the having-a-wife issue would make me perma-mockable. My last five are Primary Colors, Public Enemies, District 9, Julie and Julia, and Up.

            At most two of those are non-mockable.

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
            • green star oakland Jan 22,2010 11:59 am || Up

              Think of it as a perma-excuse … queue what you like and blame it on her.

              If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
              • nevermoor Jan 22,2010 12:03 pm || Up

                Hey, I’m in if others are. Dunno how to set it up though.

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • Leopold Bloom Jan 22,2010 1:53 pm || Up

                  Are you talking through the xbox? That’s fun. I’ve a friend that “does it with me.”

            • monkeyball Jan 22,2010 1:07 pm || Up

              There’s a good argument for all of those being non-mockable. I’ve always been intrigued by the idea of Primary Colors, and should really see it sometime. Public Enemies is next after the entire run of LoM in my queue — I’m a huge fan of Michael Mann, Depp, and Bale. District 9 sounded very intriguing. Julie and Julia … yeah, a harder sell, although all reports of Streep’s perf were so outstanding that one could watch it as half of a decent biopic. Up — hey, harmless, far-better-then-it-has-to-be family fare has a certain value.

              As for logistics, I don’t think there’s a way to do any sort of “group” thing (NF really should explore that — they seem to have utterly missed the boat on social media, which is ironic/shameful/inexplicable). Basically, you just individually invite people via their email addy. I’ll get started on that today (taking a vacay day @ home today w/JP).

              you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
              • nevermoor Jan 22,2010 1:11 pm || Up

                cool. I’ll accept any FK invites (and its my screen name at gmail like always)

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • batgirl Jan 22,2010 1:20 pm || Up

            Re: Whip it I’ll watch pretty much any movie that has roller skating in it.

            • Leopold Bloom Jan 22,2010 1:53 pm || Up

              was it good?

              • batgirl Jan 22,2010 1:57 pm || Up

                I don’t know–I didn’t watch it yet. Is it out on DVD? It’s in my netflix list.

            • Leopold Bloom Jan 22,2010 1:54 pm || Up

              also, have ex in Beaumont who’s doing the whole roller derby revival thing. She was a first rate ball-breaker then. I bet she’s mean out there.

  15. Leopold Bloom Jan 21,2010 8:30 pm

    I’m not sure I can state this any clearer: Fuck Ferguson Jenkins.

    • mk Jan 21,2010 9:18 pm || Up

      1. Wow. That reads like a parody.

      2. Second apropos of nothing of the evening: the zeitgeist might be veering into your wheelhouse, LB:

      On his goodreads profile, my friend Brian writes, “If you go home with someone, and they don’t have any books, don’t fuck ‘em!”

      • Leopold Bloom Jan 21,2010 10:07 pm || Up

        I have a new sig line! Thank you!

        • FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 22,2010 9:25 am || Up

          You can therefore now exclude the entire town of Laredo Texas from your romantic searches.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • Leopold Bloom Jan 22,2010 1:55 pm || Up

            (um, I think most of Texas applies…see above)

            • whiteshoes40 Jan 22,2010 3:48 pm || Up

              I take offense. I happen to own many books (although many of them are still in Cali).

              It is sad that HEB is passing for a bookstore in Laredo, though. Granted, I haven’t perused the book section at the local HEBs, but I have a feeling they’re like the small airport bookstores (bestsellers, crime novels, romances). [Side note: HEB’s primary slogan is “Here Everything’s Better.” I think they are just trying to distract from the real origin of their name: founder Howard E. Butt.]

              • Leopold Bloom Jan 22,2010 5:33 pm || Up

                You are a real Texan, then? You’ve completely succumbed to BBQ and guns, then?

                …are you near Beaumont? I may have some entertainment for you.

                • whiteshoes40 Jan 22,2010 10:03 pm || Up

                  BBQ, I’m okay with. Guns, not quite as much.

                  I don’t know where Beaumont is. [google map check] Nope, not near Beaumont. SOrry.

                • Leopold Bloom Jan 22,2010 10:14 pm || Up

                  You like rollerderby?

    • andeux Jan 22,2010 9:39 am || Up

      To be fair, he may have been coked up when he made those statements.

      TINSTAAFK
  16. nevermoor Jan 22,2010 11:33 am

    6: I can’t believe we’ve regressed to the point where that’s ok to say.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  17. green star oakland Jan 22,2010 12:02 pm

    One of the other parents at Lily’s school is a professional cyclist, and we were chatting about his contract today. Not surprisingly it contains a list of prohibited activities, and equally unsurprising skiing, sky-diving and motorbiking are on the list. But sumo wrestling

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  18. FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 22,2010 12:38 pm

    I am amazed that so many beautiful garments could be made out of burlap sacks. I really liked the one the gal from Oakland made.

    Also, very hard to justify the decision on Ping.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • batgirl Jan 22,2010 1:59 pm || Up

      My stupid satelite dish is out from the weather, so I’m gonna be on mega delay for this episode. Repairman can’t come until Tuesday. Drat.

    • whiteshoes40 Jan 22,2010 3:43 pm || Up

      Yeah, I liked hers too. She made the skirt look like fur, with the movement and the different colors of dye.

      Ping’s dress was… um… yeah. But she’s fun to watch. And (to avoid spoilers) I think the other person in the bottom 2 should’ve been kicked off. I do not like that person.

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