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But I slept right through it here in Elk Grove. Woke up early for unrelated reasons and it took social media to alert me to it.

American Canyon quake

How many of you felt it? Largest in the region since 1989.

401 thoughts on “The “Whole Lotta Shakin’ Goin’ On” Grill

  1. oblique Aug 24,2014 7:15 am

    Didn’t wake me up in SJ. Then again after 4 years of living right next to freight train tracks, I think I’d sleep through most any external shaking.

    Hope all y’all are safe and unharmed.

    • doctorK doctorK Aug 24,2014 3:32 pm || Up

      Slept right through it here in Sunnyvale. It’s about 62 miles line-of-sight from the epicenter to my house.

  2. Future Ed Future Ed Aug 24,2014 8:24 am

    didn’t feel it in SF. SLF was awake and felt it. She reported being worried, but then, she is from Connecticut.

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  3. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Aug 24,2014 8:48 am

    It sort of woke me up in SF. I remember waking up now, but I had completely forgotten about waking up until I saw the news.

  4. andeux andeux Aug 24,2014 9:07 am

    Woke me up in Berkeley. I’ve felt stronger jolts from local 3’s and 4’s, but this one lasted for 10+ seconds, so I knew it was stronger but farther away. GF slept right through it.

    TINSTAAFK
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 24,2014 11:10 am || Up

      Interesting notes in this account of what the USGS had to say:

      * In Napa the quake only lasted 4-5 seconds, but in the wider Bay Area people felt it for 10-14 seconds.

      * The quake successfully triggered the beta test version of Cal’s Earthquake Early Warning System, giving a 10-second notice that the campus was about to be shaken.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • andeux andeux Aug 24,2014 11:17 am || Up

        Interesting. The earth is a low-pass filter.

        TINSTAAFK
  5. andeux andeux Aug 24,2014 9:13 am


    Looks like it propagated a lot more to the North and East. Maybe because of the Bay.

    TINSTAAFK
  6. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 24,2014 9:36 am

    Woke me up in Berkeley too, felt very strong, lasted long enough for me to get out of bed and into a door frame.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  7. harensheir15 harensheir15 Aug 24,2014 9:39 am

    Hoping all our people in Napa are safe and haven’t suffered significant damage.

  8. DFA DFA Aug 24,2014 9:46 am

    I had a weird dream about an earthquake and my girlfriend asking if the painting (which is heavy and done on wood) above our bed was secured… maybe it wasn’t a dream and just wasn’t awake.

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
  9. Englishmajor Englishmajor Aug 24,2014 9:48 am

    In this pre-1906, foundation-less cottage in Burlingame, it was 15-20 seconds of strong shaking, and it was loud, but nothing fell off shelves. Brandon Freiman-Blevins was completely disinterested in the quake itself, but since I was awake made a bid to have breakfast early.

  10. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 24,2014 9:49 am

    My Anaconda don’t want none unless you’ve got buns hun if you’re going to use a fucking boa constrictor in the show instead.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  11. AV AV Aug 24,2014 9:55 am

    woke up immediately in a nonpanic. hugged mrs AV so she wouldn’t be scared when she woke up. it kept going. she finally woke up half way into it. we swear we heard a pan fall from the drying rack but didn’t see one this morning. i felt like it was under control and went to the bathroom. it was still rolling.

    it was very northridge. length, the side to side, the fact i had to go pee in the middle of it and had to hold the wall for aim.

    and i’ve had the same song in my head all night.

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 24,2014 10:46 am || Up

      Northridge was such a pain in the ass. I had just gotten home and put my head down to sleep.

      Long fucking night.

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  12. Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 24,2014 10:10 am

    I didn’t feel it in Kansas, guys.

  13. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 24,2014 10:15 am
    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • AV AV Aug 24,2014 10:37 am || Up

      hm. what this lacks in conceit and imagery, might just prove that there’s more to shakespeare than funny looking english.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  14. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 24,2014 10:21 am

    The American half of this year’s Little League World Series has featured more mostly African-American teams than I can remember. Chicago’s Jackie Robinson West League team goes for the LLWS championship today at noon.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  15. DFA DFA Aug 24,2014 10:28 am

    Cliff Pennington is on waivers… can we claim him?

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
    • elcroata elcroata Aug 24,2014 10:37 am || Up

      Assuming that last year’s record is the tiebreaker, the A’s are literally the last team in waiver claim order.

      All I can say about stats is SCOTT BROSIUS!!
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 24,2014 11:00 am || Up

      I’m down for that. OPS .725 this year, vs Callaspo’s .609 and Sogard’s .572. Also, b-ref reminds me that Cliff’s full name is Clifton Randolph Pennington.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 24,2014 11:05 am || Up

        Parrino optioned, pennington added easy peasy

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
  16. James V. James V. Aug 24,2014 11:09 am

    I guess this is one way to deal with it.

    • AV AV Aug 24,2014 11:20 am || Up

      mark tansey should be delighted by the doubtless post-poststructuralist reappropriation.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 24,2014 11:37 am || Up

      I lived in LA for Northridge. After the initial shake, the residents of Westwood and I assembled on the streets. Some dudes from my apartment building took their surfboards out and headed to the beach saying “waves are gonna be sweet” as they passed us on the way to their car

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  17. James V. James V. Aug 24,2014 11:12 am

    • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 24,2014 11:39 am || Up

      Can they please hire him to do color on the teevee?

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 24,2014 11:39 am || Up

      Neat, I want to know more about this event.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  18. AV AV Aug 24,2014 11:40 am

    saw this on SF gate. wanted to see if it was the same house a architect friend of mine is working on. street googled it. got a blurred out photo.

    wasn’t street google’s whole original raison de not getting sued that anything seen from the street is not an invasion of privacy? or, comparing the size of this blur to the visible neighboring houses, is there a level of wealth where privacy is more invadable via street view?

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • andeux andeux Aug 24,2014 12:09 pm || Up

      They blur faces and license plates for legal reasons, but will also blur other things (houses, cars, etc.) by request. Makes sense as a way to avoid controversy.
      (Disclosure: I work for a competitor. But we don’t seem to have street view on that street yet.)

      TINSTAAFK
  19. James V. James V. Aug 24,2014 11:45 am

    • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 24,2014 11:59 am || Up

      huh. the kid that doesn’t give a shit about anything?

      please claim cliffington too

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 24,2014 12:01 pm || Up

        Also, I don’t see that going anywhere. the rays will want too much.

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 24,2014 12:12 pm || Up

          But it would address the much-discussed critical roster defect we’ve had since the big trade. We desperately need a Y-named guy.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • AV AV Aug 24,2014 12:27 pm || Up

            which is just PC code for cuban.

            *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
            • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 24,2014 12:33 pm || Up

              Hey, they could persuade Yevgeni Malkin or Yancey Thigpen to change sports.

              "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
              • elcroata elcroata Aug 24,2014 12:46 pm || Up

                What’s Yuniesky Betancourt doing these days?

                All I can say about stats is SCOTT BROSIUS!!
                • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 24,2014 12:49 pm || Up

                  he’d find a way to beat the A’s. even if he is out of baseball

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                • AV AV Aug 24,2014 12:50 pm || Up

                  being cuban for the orix buffaloes of japan, of course.

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
              • AV AV Aug 24,2014 12:51 pm || Up

                in baseball, yevgeni is pronounced eugene.

                i baseball, yancey is pronounced my mom thought it was a boy’s name.

                *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
            • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 24,2014 12:55 pm || Up

              need to have an excuse to keep serving the sandwich

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              • AV AV Aug 24,2014 1:02 pm || Up

                imprimir. sangüich.

                *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • bear88 Aug 24,2014 3:02 pm || Up

          I would rather have Pennington. Escobar is an outspoken bigot who went out of his way to call attention to it. And he’s not really all that good a player anyway.

          • andeux andeux Aug 24,2014 3:05 pm || Up

            This, this, and this.

            TINSTAAFK
          • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Aug 24,2014 3:07 pm || Up

            Is he a bigot, or just kind of a dummy? If the case against him is just the eye black, I’m inclined toward the latter. I would be more concerned about him being kind of a dunderhead out there who’s not that into the game.

            • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 24,2014 4:59 pm || Up

              I think he is lazy and not a great fit in baseball, But I don’t think he was overtly trying to be a bigot, I think he didn’t know he was, and probably still is. Probably like many many others is baseball.

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          • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 24,2014 3:08 pm || Up

            Oh yeah. I forgot that was him. Poop.

    • lenscrafters Aug 24,2014 12:23 pm || Up

      Officially beyond maximum catcher

      • elcroata elcroata Aug 24,2014 12:31 pm || Up

        Whose place on the 40-man roster does he take?

        All I can say about stats is SCOTT BROSIUS!!
        • lenscrafters Aug 24,2014 12:37 pm || Up

          Probably Frieman’s but there’s certainly a chance of an injury we don’t know about yet. Did Norris look ok yesterday?

          • elcroata elcroata Aug 24,2014 12:39 pm || Up

            Even if not, he will hardly be put on 60-day DL.

            All I can say about stats is SCOTT BROSIUS!!
            • lenscrafters Aug 24,2014 12:41 pm || Up

              Right, I was thinking active roster. For the 40 man I think Blanks -> 60 day DL.

          • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 24,2014 12:51 pm || Up

            the only thing I can think is a norris injury.

            That would suck. He looked fine on my tv. which Is where I watched the game

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      • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 24,2014 12:42 pm || Up

        what?

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 24,2014 1:16 pm || Up

          OK, so I’m trying to figure out what Billy’s motives are for this. On the one hand, all we gave them was cash, so there’s basically no reason to ever not do that deal. This is a catcher who looks to be worth somewhere around 2 wins per 400 plate appearances, which seems like a decent estimation of what a full season looks like for him. On the other hand, what does he potentially contribute to the 2014 situation? His career line against lefties is .283/.376/.483, .858 OPS, .374 wOBA, 127 WRC+. That would make him a replacement for what Cespedes contributed this season against lefties–.232/.319/.455, .773 OPS, .334 wOBA, 116 WRC+–but the last season in which he put up numbers like that against LHP was 2011. And even if he still is that kind of hitter against LHP, where does he slot into the lineup? I suppose he can bounce around between C, 1B, and DH, platooning with Moss, Vogt, Norris, Jaso, and the rest of the team. I don’t know. I can see it being a move Billy makes just because there’s no reason not to, and I can see it being something he does because he thinks it can help the team now.

          • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 24,2014 1:18 pm || Up

            Also, maybe he’s thinking of moving a catcher to TB as a PTBNL in the possible Yunel trade? If Billy wanted to trade, say, Stephen Vogt or even Soto himself to the Rays as part of a deal for Yunel, he could get around the waiver process by using them as PTBNLs and not naming them until after the season.

            • dmoas Aug 24,2014 1:26 pm || Up

              Neither Vogt nor Soto can be a PTBNL right now.

              • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 24,2014 1:29 pm || Up

                can soto play second?

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                • dmoas Aug 24,2014 1:38 pm || Up

                  Yes. Now ask if he’s any good at playing second.

                • AV AV Aug 24,2014 1:39 pm || Up

                  what is this, 20questionsball?

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
              • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 24,2014 2:23 pm || Up

                They can as a way of skirting the waiver rule, as I understand it. They wouldn’t be named until the offseason.

                • dmoas Aug 24,2014 2:31 pm || Up

                  Nope. Can’t use someone currently on the roster as a PTBNL. PTBNL can’t be currently playing in the league they’re being traded to.

                • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 24,2014 3:12 pm || Up

                  MLBTR phrases it as “cannot have played in the major leagues between the day the trade was announced and the day the trade was completed.” So what about a player who was put on the 60-day DL or sent to the minors? Jaso could conceivably fit the DL bill if the concussion symptoms worsen.

      • James V. James V. Aug 24,2014 1:39 pm || Up

        And there you go:

        • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 24,2014 1:45 pm || Up

          And Vogt’s bad right foot apparently won’t let him catch any more, and Norris is taking a pretty serious beat down behind the plate.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • dmoas Aug 24,2014 2:09 pm || Up

          7 day DL comes off at the beginning of September when rosters expand. Coincidence?

        • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 24,2014 2:23 pm || Up

          Oh for fucksake.

        • andeux andeux Aug 24,2014 2:40 pm || Up

          Well that sucks, but it’s also one of the least surprising injuries ever. You can’t really expect someone with a concussion history to stay at catcher long-term.

          TINSTAAFK
          • bear88 Aug 24,2014 2:55 pm || Up

            Basically, Maximum Catching jokes notwithstanding, Beane got Soto because he needed someone to play backup catcher. Vogt can’t do it this season. Jaso has concussion problems again. Soto is necessary.

            • dmoas Aug 24,2014 4:18 pm || Up

              Jaso needs to start taking ground balls at second.

    • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 24,2014 9:59 pm || Up

      what the shit?

      The Athletics recently claimed Yunel Escobar from the Rays on revocable waivers, but Escobar does not want to play for Oakland, CBS Sports’ Jon Heyman writes. “I am very concerned with Yunel having been selected on waivers by Oakland,” says Escobar’s agent, Alex Esteban. “While I believe Oakland is an excellent organization, I don’t feel that it is the best organization for him.” Esteban adds that Escobar has a good relationship with Rays manager Joe Maddon. Of course, Escobar does not have a no-trade clause and cannot block a trade to the A’s, but his disinterest in playing for them is one variable to keep in mind as the situation develops. Escobar has stayed out of trouble in Tampa, but he did not get along with Bobby Cox in Atlanta and received a suspension for a homophobic slur while playing for Toronto.

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      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 24,2014 10:11 pm || Up

        Is it possible that it’s teh gays?

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 24,2014 10:13 pm || Up

          there are no gays in St. Pete?

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 24,2014 10:25 pm || Up

            Perhaps not as perceived by Escobar. I’ll go out on a limb and assert that they’re are a lot more people who’d yell at a homophobe at a ballgame here than in St Pete.

            Or maybe he hates cold night games.

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  20. elcroata elcroata Aug 24,2014 12:05 pm

    That’s incredible. Sale gave up an RBI single to Suzuki. That was a first RBI he gave up to a lefty since the one Mauer hit off of him last year, a span of 140+ PA

    All I can say about stats is SCOTT BROSIUS!!
  21. nowBodhi Aug 24,2014 1:02 pm

    I had a sense of it, woke up 30 seconds prior to the first shake. It was a MFer in Richmond. I posted to FB paraphrasing Mae West: “That was the biggest one I’ve ever personally felt.”

    Never suck on a Blow Pop with the microphone open.
  22. Future Ed Future Ed Aug 24,2014 1:05 pm

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 24,2014 1:33 pm || Up

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 24,2014 1:38 pm || Up

      Much as I enjoy taking pleasure in the Niners misfortune, all the problems so far just seem like the normal kinds of bugs that a new facility is going to have. Though the issue of sun reflecting off the luxury suites and incinerating fans in the stands like so many So Cal birds could be fun to watch.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 24,2014 1:41 pm || Up

        yeah, I know, that one was a cheap shot

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
  23. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 24,2014 1:43 pm

    Freaking Channel 7 is doing live Napa earthquake news, 10 hours after the event, denying me the LLWS broadcast.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • AV AV Aug 24,2014 1:47 pm || Up

      http://espn.go.com/watchespn/

      4-1 s korea, bottom 5th.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • AV AV Aug 24,2014 2:03 pm || Up

        top 6th, looking pretty bad for illinois. 2-out solo home run takes it to 8-1.

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 24,2014 2:03 pm || Up

        Denied to DirecTVers. I found it on the DTV sports mix channel; not looking good for Chicago, 8-1 in last inning.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • AV AV Aug 24,2014 2:08 pm || Up

          was that last pitcher a little wild, or just pissed?

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
          • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 24,2014 2:17 pm || Up

            Not dead yet!

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
            • AV AV Aug 24,2014 2:20 pm || Up

              yeah, this is getting good. do they go to 9 innings?

              *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
              • AV AV Aug 24,2014 2:24 pm || Up

                6?

                *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • AV AV Aug 24,2014 2:25 pm || Up

                  6. oh well. made it pretty interesting.

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
              • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 24,2014 2:25 pm || Up

                Alas no. But the Chicago team walks off heads held high.

                "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
                • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 24,2014 2:28 pm || Up

                  This South Korea team is undefeated in its LLWS history…three trips, three championships.

                  "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  24. Future Ed Future Ed Aug 24,2014 1:45 pm

    jaso—> concussion list tomorrow

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 24,2014 1:57 pm || Up

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • AV AV Aug 24,2014 2:04 pm || Up

        wow. those concussion questions are getting really hard. whatever happened to do you know what year it is? who’s president?

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • dmoas Aug 24,2014 2:11 pm || Up

          Don’t forget what’s the square root of negative 52.5612 divided by 9.4. Catcher should be able to answer that. Right?

          • ptbnl Aug 24,2014 7:50 pm || Up

            Shaken awake in Cazadero … a little nervous being in a cabin next to a very steep dirt slope.

            If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
        • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 24,2014 2:30 pm || Up

          “OK, we need to check you for concussion symptoms. What year is it? Who is the President? Solve Planck’s constant. Could Field of Dreams be considered magical realism? What is the most common coniferous tree in the continental United States? Who is the current non-voting Congressional delegate from Guam and what is that person’s political party affiliation? How many dogs live in London?”

          • dmoas Aug 24,2014 2:32 pm || Up

            “What color is my underwear?”

            • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 24,2014 3:13 pm || Up

              “That depends, Nick. Are you still wearing that crotchless number you had on last night, or did you have time to change?”

            • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 24,2014 5:00 pm || Up

              this is the question I always ask after I pull the rip cord.

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          • 5Aces 5Aces Aug 24,2014 4:22 pm || Up

            Please answer the following Fosse questions correctly.

            Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
            • AV AV Aug 24,2014 4:24 pm || Up

              [plays dead]

              *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
            • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Aug 24,2014 4:31 pm || Up

              “Really great.”

              See, I’m fine!

            • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 24,2014 5:55 pm || Up

              “How great is that?”
              “47 great.”

  25. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 24,2014 2:16 pm

    Whoa, this is pretty scary.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • AV AV Aug 24,2014 2:22 pm || Up

      daaaamn.

      (i didn’t click the vid.)

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  26. Jennifer Jennifer Aug 24,2014 2:26 pm

    I’m thinking about taking up drinking. Possibly smoking.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 24,2014 2:30 pm || Up

      Don’t sell yourself short, meth and cocaine are also valid options.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Jennifer Jennifer Aug 24,2014 2:34 pm || Up

        I’m torn on meth… I’d lose weight, but I’d also get terrible skin and teeth.

      • Jennifer Jennifer Aug 24,2014 2:40 pm || Up

        But I will say, sometimes I can’t do simple things like read a clock or do math while I’m getting crazy in the ER, but I was able to get my drug calculations correct TWICE today. My hands were shaking so much I couldn’t pop the cap off the vials, but I did the math correctly.

    • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 24,2014 2:30 pm || Up

      Drinking yes. Smoking bad.

  27. Future Ed Future Ed Aug 24,2014 2:31 pm

    doolittle intercostal injury? MRI today?

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 24,2014 2:38 pm || Up

      Noooo!!!

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 24,2014 2:44 pm || Up

      From a BTB article about Dexter Fowler’s intercostal injury:

      Symptomatically, players often experience a sudden, sharp pain or pulling sensation in their lower ribcage during the provoking motion. Pain is commonly acute but can occur gradually over time and is often present when taking a deep breath. Severity of the strain can vary but can be broken down into three grades:

      Grade I – Mild, with few damaged muscle fibers. Some discomfort and minimal loss of strength and motion.
      Grade II – Moderate, significant number of muscle fibers damaged with no rupture. Increased pain and discomfort. Significant loss of strength and motion.
      Grade III – Severe, where the muscle is ruptured. Increased pain and discomfort, with a palpable defect of the muscle. Surgery often required.

      Fowler missed 7 weeks with his, perhaps a more severe one, and Fowler had a history of core muscle problems.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • bear88 Aug 24,2014 3:07 pm || Up

        Let’s root that it’s not severe. Or moderate. Or any kind of mild that affects his ability to, uh, pitch.

        I guess Dan Otero may be returning sooner than expected.

  28. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 24,2014 2:59 pm

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 24,2014 3:00 pm || Up

      Some guys’ll do anything to get one of those unicorn backpacks.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  29. andeux andeux Aug 24,2014 3:04 pm

    Full rundown via SuSlu:

    Jaso: going on 7-day concussion DL
    Blanks: Achilles tendinitis, needs to wear a walking boot for at least a week or two. Transferred to 60-day DL (has already been out longer than that)
    Donaldson: Precautionary MRI for knee. Says he can play, but not in the lineup today.
    Doolittle: MRI for intercostal. Likely going on DL.
    Otero: Likely activated in place of Doolittle.
    Lowrie: feeling better, hopes to start throwing in a few days (Not-bad news! Yay!)

    Soto: acquired for cash, joining team tomorrow.
    Bryan Anderson (C): acquired on a minor league contract from Cincy for international money.

    TINSTAAFK
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Aug 24,2014 3:10 pm || Up

      How many Ameros did Anderson cost?

      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 24,2014 3:24 pm || Up

        I’d pay them not to include any Amaros in the deal.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 24,2014 3:15 pm || Up

      Oof McGoof.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 24,2014 3:22 pm || Up

      Sounds like the place for the dedicated A’s autograph-seeker/stalker to be this morning was NorCal Imaging on Telegraph in Oakland. I saw Blevins there last year.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • bear88 Aug 24,2014 3:29 pm || Up

      Adjustments (as near as I can tell):

      – Jaso, when and if he returns, is a DH. End result: No more catcher platoon, unless Bryan Anderson is used.
      – Blanks is out for the season. Less of a concern.
      – Donaldson. MRI. That would obviously be a big problem. I’m going to assume he’s OK.
      – Doolittle. MRI. Likely DL, uncertain return. Large problem, short term. Possible large problem for the season and beyond, if for no other reason than the requirement that someone else has to deal with being a closer (as well as less depth).
      – Otero. Was only sent down because of matchups. What will his role be with Doolittle is out?
      – Lowrie. Would be nice if he could come back.
      – Soto. He’s an OK backup, and the A’s can’t run Derek Norris into the ground.

      As mentioned above, I don’t want Escobar.

      • andeux andeux Aug 24,2014 3:43 pm || Up

        Re C situation: Yeah. With Jaso out Norris will be playing everyday (as he mostly already was), spending some time at DH with Soto catching against LHP. When Jaso comes back … probably the same thing.

        The real loss with Jaso is his bat against RHP. It looks to me like his AB’s will mostly be replaced by Fuld (with Moss moving to DH).

        TINSTAAFK
    • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 24,2014 5:02 pm || Up

      Doolittle DL’d for a week? I’d rather option him

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  30. bear88 Aug 24,2014 4:05 pm

    Doolittle to the DL, per Slusser. Otero is in Oakland.

  31. bear88 Aug 24,2014 4:09 pm

    Also per Slusser, even the most mild of intercostal strains takes at least two weeks to heal. A medium strain takes six weeks.

    All of that, I assume, is just the healing part. Then Doolittle would need to get into pitching shape.

  32. andeux andeux Aug 24,2014 4:15 pm

    The other question is how they finesse the roster situation for the next week, given that they were already carrying one fewer reliever than normal. It’ll be tough to do that for another week with no off days, and pretty much impossible if they’re still planning on using a 6th starter for one game against the Astros. The only position player who can really be sent down is Freiman, which will mean losing him for at least the start against CJ Wilson. I guess that’s not a huge deal, but would be another little hit to the already struggling offense.

    The other option would be to play musical relievers with Chavez, Otero, Pomeranz, Scribner and Rodriguez, so that there is always a fresh arm available.

    TINSTAAFK
  33. 5Aces 5Aces Aug 24,2014 4:26 pm

    Can we please not turn over the entire roster the day I’m trying to teach uni #s to Little Miss Aces?!? Kthx

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • andeux andeux Aug 24,2014 4:29 pm || Up

      I take it Operation Backpack was a success?

      TINSTAAFK
  34. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 24,2014 4:32 pm

    Scoff if you will,, I would totally eat this.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Jennifer Jennifer Aug 24,2014 4:36 pm || Up

      I need a penny or something next to that thing for a size comparison.

      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 24,2014 4:40 pm || Up

        A 22 inch kielbasa covered with beer cheese and fried sauerkraut. That’s a genuine Wisconsin food product right there, I bet it’s good.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • AV AV Aug 24,2014 5:04 pm || Up

      food… (and i mean this in every sense of the cliche) …porn.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • AV AV Aug 24,2014 5:06 pm || Up

        edit button’s going to be the death of me.

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  35. Future Ed Future Ed Aug 24,2014 7:54 pm

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Soaker Soaker Aug 24,2014 7:59 pm || Up

      Needs moar less Erisbel Arruebarrena.

      Support locally made sausage!
  36. James V. James V. Aug 24,2014 9:45 pm

    I don’t think it’s possible to top this.

    • MikeV MikeV Aug 25,2014 9:58 am || Up

      Well, you could film it with the phone held correctly.

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

      • dmoas Aug 25,2014 11:09 am || Up

        I flat out refuse to watch a video that isn’t.

        • MikeV MikeV Aug 25,2014 11:19 am || Up
          And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

          Thanks, and go As.

          • AV AV Aug 25,2014 11:27 am || Up

            he’s standing. a vertical shot is actually the better use of the lens frame. (if the camera were horizontal, we’d have just as much wasted space L/R of him, only it’d be a mountain rather than black area, still wasted though, with the added drawback that the man would be shot small within the frame.)

            the problem is the browser window it’s going into is horizontal. it should be a vert window so the vert video can bee seen at full size. the net has to adapt to its users’ habits, not the other way around.

            *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
            • dmoas Aug 25,2014 11:29 am || Up

              False. On pretty much every level.

              • AV AV Aug 25,2014 1:33 pm || Up

                you might have to give your opinion why it’s false. at least to keep this discussion interesting for me.

                *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • dmoas Aug 25,2014 2:30 pm || Up

                  okeydoke.

                  Framing:
                  You can get the “whole body” within the shot vertically, but you can’t do any zooming without cutting into the body/face. Whereas horizontally you can move in from a long shot to a medium to a close up while never losing any part of the subject. In a case like this water thing, there’s a good chance of body movement. That movement is seldom going to stay put within a vertical frame. Shooting vertically may feel like you’re wasting space, but you can capture what’s going on behind the subject (a sneaky fellow if one exists) or capture his movement heading out of the frame as he moves to the side. You *want* space around a subject because it gives you options, especially for the unexpected.

                  Habit:
                  Going back historically, screens have always been vertical. In fact, they’ve gone vertical and they’ve gone wider and wider over the last century. Part of that is how we view things. You put a TV or a movie screen on a wall. Attempting to set that up vertically is a non-starter. You’re limiting screen size as a result of ceiling + furniture height whereas horizontally you have the wall width to work with. For web/work, it’s easier on the eyes to look left and right on a screen than up and down for things. Key things are the middle, less important things to either side. There’s a field of vision issue where it make things look claustrophobic if it’s in portrait. In fact, reading is one of the few things that works better in portrait than in landscape, but then tends to be result of how paper fits in our hands and our need to follow the words on the page.

                  Adaptation:
                  Here’s where we almost agree, we’re just going in different directions. You’re suggesting other visual medium should conform to the phone method of viewing which would be foolish. Not just for the above, but for the reality that 99% of everything that’s ever been shot professionally and up until the last decade privately has been horizontally based. So literally all of our technology, equipment, etc. is based on that landscape formatting. What needs to happen is that cell phones need to adapt to how people poorly shoot their videos. The default setting for a phone should be to physically hold the phone vertically while still shooting in landscape. Then you can give the option to show the cropped image (what the user sees on the screen while recording video would have the sides cropped from what actually gets recorded) or showing the full image (in which case the user sees the bars at the top and bottom of the video as they record and as they’d see it during playback in portrait). We’re talking a single medium here out of countless. Suggesting all other mediums should conform to it because of people’s inability to grasp what it takes to shoot video that would be viewed off their phones is akin to suggesting all people should learn English because so much of the world speaks it. A big part of this is format translation. If a video never leaves the phone format, it doesn’t matter what direction it’s shot in. If it’s going to be used on a TV, a Computer, or on Film, it has to be shot in a manner that can appropriately translate to that other medium otherwise instead of empty “useless” space that actually shows you something, you’re going to get either a poorly cropped version of the video or black bars on the left and right which are far more worthless than your “useless” space.

                • AV AV Aug 25,2014 5:35 pm || Up

                  nice! (too bad i’m frikcin rushed.)

                  so we’re on the same page, i mean generally and in the future. i’m not talking just about this one movie. basically, i was responding to the flat out refuse to watch. i think there are times when it’s ok to use vert. by the same token, i think there are times when vert is a wrong aesthetic choice — and the guidelines to choose between them are the content as well as the intent.

                  (supercaveat, i’ve been watching symbiopsychotaxiplasm: take one, and i’ve seen the glory of the endlessly arguable aesthetic decision that precludes actual aesthetic action.)

                  ok. 1: form follows function. while in some cases there is stuff in the back that is important, or a sense of space, or other stuff, there are also cases when the subject will benefit from a well-framed vertical; cases where the subject is vert, or where the action might be vert, or where a sense of space calls for it. just like sometimes you *want* a long shot of a gun slinger and sometimes you *want* a tight screen with just his lips and cigarillo. overall, are times when it is beneficial to the shot to have it vertical.

                  2: historically… starting when? framing predates motion images, which predate film, which predates our own phone-to-web issue. and i think there is enough precedent for vert framing to be ok with it in general. again by the formula of content divided by intent.

                  2b. habit. i don’t know that being used to something makes the other wrong. we all know the studies of serif/sans serif fonts, in which the native reader always prefers the native one and can’t stand the other. until they get used to it. so why aren’t we used to other ways of framing? (well, in part we are and don’t know it.) but IIRC the main reason is technological. the movie frame has to be in front of the lens at the right time and for the right amount of time. making the frame verticaler in a camera messes that up. but to access more real estate on screen, the frame keeps getting wider and wider. movie theaters followed.

                  but that is so mechanical-age! we can do whatever we want now.

                  3: i’m not calling for a laptop that telescopes vertically to fit a phone movie (though think of the porn possibilities… woooooooooo-oop-oop-oop!) for now, i think browser windows can adapt to flip the same current proportions. go either 3 by 5 or 5 by 3, not a big deal on a web page. and then there are tablets, those are already a large content reader that flips. and flatscreens on a wall… how long till they come with a middle axle that flips the whole screen as needed (just move the van gogh out of the way so they don’t knock frames). movie theaters, on the other hand, are screwed.

                  note to self: pitch a movie with active framing where the TV screen is synched to follow the camera movement. would work nice with a mockumentary.

                  note you y’all: NOBODY STEAL THIS IDEA!

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • dmoas Aug 27,2014 11:44 am || Up

                  I wish I could inline reply to this.

                  1) You should try something. Have someone stand before you. Use your phone to get them completely in the frame. Now record them. Have them move forward. Move back. Move left. Move right. Move upward (jump). Move downward (kneel). If you’re shooting video, which method do you think is going to keep them in the frame the best and which one is easier to adjust to the action? In both cases, using it in landscape allows for the best use. I think of it like a stage and a play. You want more space to your sides so that your stationary object can follow easier.

                  2) Historic to moving pictures. Painting, photos, etc. are all single frames. Maximizing that frame is always in their best interest, so much so it’s the priority. Moving pictures isn’t the same. Replay/Viewing and the ability to follow the action with the camera without losing your subject takes priority over filling a frame.

                  3) There are already TV/monitor rigs that allow for moving it to portrait. But they’re a pain in the ass and, you know, you’d be constantly having to shift. What ends up happening is that you leave it in the most convenient position, namely the one you use the most, which would be landscape.

                • AV AV Aug 27,2014 6:13 pm || Up

                  i’m a little confused trying to figure out what angle you’re coming from. it’s not from the POV of aesthetic decision exactly, or, your POV doesn’t seem to take into account that there are different results one wants to achieve with aesthetic direction, so it’s like stilted into this one-way view. or if the angle is from the consumer’s POV, it’s surprising because i think of you as progress-minded. so i don’t know if what i’m about to say speaks to those POVs or if it’s just going to end up talking across them.

                  1) when i said that form follows function, i mean that sometimes there is a thing one’s trying to accomplish, and to get it across, you choose the form that’s best for that. what you’re asking me to do, shoot a vert vid of someone jumping sideways is the opposite of that. you’re choosing the form first and trying to fit the content within it. no wonder what you’re imagining doesn’t work. here’re two examples however of content that calls for the vert, and, as quick and handheld an exercise as it is, i am calling it successful in that these same shots would lose something if the framing went the other way. (it’s also an example of a browser player that is in alignment with the framing orientation.)

                  2) i disagree that framing is essentially different in still than in motion pics. and i’d say that maximizing the frame is best practice for both stills and motion, not stills alone, even if maximizing the frame means a slightly different thing in one to the other. but i’ll leave those aside.

                  you make a good point in that sometimes following the action is a more important parameter than filling the frame (this would go under form follows function too, and whether it’s more important to follow the action or to fill the frame). however, it leaves out a couple of things. you’re assuming that the intent is to have the viewer follow the action always. and that the action will always go horizontally. if you break either of those assumptions for a particular work to be shot, vertical comes back into the pic as a viable if not better choice.

                  i know these are stills, but it’s a decent A/B. as stills, or even imagining what they would do in motion, i am much of the opinion that B works better. any action we expect from the subject is going to be along the long dimension of the frame. moreover, any motion that cuts across the short dimension of the frame is going to feel as a cut, a disruption, or a shortlived surprise. in this moment of the movie, everything is slow and long, so motion along the long axis would enhance that idea. given that the subject is going to stretch head to foot way more likelier than he’s going to widen hand to opposite hand (figuratively speaking) and that we want to give that motion the correct mood, i’m completely sold on the vert frame.

                  2b) history. this is from the 1930s. it was spoken during a debate on whether the standardized movie picture frame should be square or rectangular:

                  “I must point out that, in proposing these proportions* for discussion, we only underline the fact that for thirty years we have been content to see excluded 50 per cent of compositional possibilities, in consequence of the horizontal shape of the frame.** By the word “exclude” I refer to all the possibilities of vertical, upright composition. And instead of using the opportunity afforded by the advent of wide*** film to break that loathsome upper part of the frame, which for thirty years – me personally for six years – has bent and bound us to a passive horizontalism, we are on the point of emphasizing this horizontalism still more.

                  —sergei eisentsein. (i’m not familiar with the name. was he good with composition and thinking about visual stuff in film or something?)

                  * the rectangular proportions

                  ** ie, the consequence of only using the horizontal alignment of the rectangle we’ve been using for 30 years, is that we’ve excluded 50% of the compositional possibilities.

                  *** wide meaning rectangular, in any direction. as opposed to purely square.

                  3) i’m gonna translate what you wrote to ninteenfifties-ian to see if it makes any better sense with a retrospective view:

                  “there are already televisions that allow you to change the channel. but they’re a pain in the ass, and, you know, you’d be constantly having to stand up to walk across the room to turn the dial. what ends up happening is that you leave it on channel 2 and sit there through the commercials, namely because that was the channel you were watching already, which wouldn’t be channels 4 or 7.”

                  i totally get ya on this now. if in the 50s we had allowed televisions to have different channels, you would have had to “do” something to get to the other one! i’m glad they put a stop to that concept right then and there, manufacturing televisions with only one channel, because there would have been an effort involved in using a television in other ways, and besides, it’s not like technology was going to come along and make the whole “changing channels” thing any easier with, like, an ability to control the dial without walking across the room, or remotely even. (no, i don’t totally get ya on this. i’m surprised as hell to hear you say it in fact.)

                  and, finally, we can say all day long that it can’t be done. the only response to that is that it’s already done.

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • dmoas Aug 28,2014 11:31 am || Up

                  Motion Picture is always from the perspective of the viewer/audience. You can’t apply the same logic of still picture to that of motion. It just doesn’t work. There’s a science and rules to it based on certain actions and the audience’s ability to follow it on the screen. Filling the frame simply isn’t anywhere near as important as what reaction the audience will have to the shot itself. Still art rules and motion picture rules are like apples and oranges. Sure they’re fruit, but their uses, flavors, and constitutions are vastly different and you can’t apply the expectations and sentimentality the same way.

                  The biggest issue is what happens in the viewers mind the moment you add motion or the perception of motion. There’s an entire science devoted to how our minds perceive and misperceive motion. While you can get away with a single camera, unedited, one shot film on a camera phone, it’s still imperative that following the *action* comes before the framing of the subject. In movies, it’s exceptionally rare to follow a subject while using a close up or mid shot, for instance. The reason is because it’s very hard for an audience to watch. In fact, it’s very hard for a camera to follow and it’s always combined with a camera literally attached to the subject.

                  I’ll grant you this, there *may* be a case where you have a completely stationary subject, with zero movement, no cuts, just a static camera and the subject where filming in portrait *might* make more sense. The problem? It’s the exception to the rule, not something to change the rules itself. It’s not akin to getting up to change the channel. It’s more akin to getting up mid scene and having to physically rotate the TV 90 degrees, sit back down, and two seconds later having to get back up and move it back. No one’s going to do that. It’s one thing to sit there and watch a single channel all day. A whole other thing to have to constantly get up to adjust the TV itself for every show you want to watch or for every flip of the channel dial, especially when you’re doing this for the 0.001% of videos that have an actual “need” for portrait viewing.

                • AV AV Aug 28,2014 12:33 pm || Up

                  i agree by a large margin on what you said in ¶1 about science and rules to understand film. however, i think you’re forgetting that these rules are not preordained or intrinsic or anything rigid like that. they are culturally learned by the audience at just about the same speed that they’re developed by the filmmaker. the first cross-cut must have been confusing… till you saw the second one.

                  (i recoil at that bullshit phrase every time i hear it: “the language of film is universal.” the language of film is universally learnable, yes, but different cultures understand film differently. it depends how your own understanding of filmic language has developed to understand the elements of film as presented.

                  dammit, what was the name of that movie where some filmmakers went to australian aborigenes and put the cameras at their behest to make a movie in their understanding of space/time/culture. i think there was a moment when the aborigenes didn’t just not like or understand the cross-cut, they didn’t even like closeups. had to have the full human figure in the shot or it was weird for them. i’m sure this language has developed for them since and now they both understand cross-cuts and closeups, as well as i’m sure they have new aboriginal-central techniques *we* don’t understand.)

                  i completely reject the notion that the subject has to be stationary, that there can’t be any cuts or motion, and that the camera has to be still, for vertical framing to be viable. those aren’t the parameters that vert framing depends on.

                  as for the exception to the rule reason to stray away from vert… considering that mediocre movies are the rule and exceptional films the exception, i’m all for trying to break the rules and making good movies instead, by any means necessary.

                  in my pre-sleep, i kept wondering what’s next, an octagonal TV or a round one?

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • AV AV Aug 28,2014 12:40 pm || Up

                  that movie’s called two laws.

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • dmoas Aug 28,2014 2:41 pm || Up

                  Of course those rules can be broken. But you’re wrong about them being cultural. There *are* plenty that are, mind you, but some of the more set one’s aren’t. They exist for a reason they tend to be broken with purpose.

                  You’re just flat out wrong about the need for stationary when it comes to portrait. I the littering on youtube of shitty videos pretty much proves that point. This is especially true of videos, like the one you suggest, is going to maintain the full use of framing. As I said, even the slightest movement left or right, forward or backward will screw up your framing of the subject and any attempt to smoothly adjust to them fails. Cameras can’t move quickly less you get a nauseating bouncing effect.

                  If the goal is have a watchable film, not good, not excellent, just something you can simply follow, portrait just doesn’t work.

                • AV AV Aug 29,2014 11:34 pm || Up

                  ok… well… overall… i sense you have an impulse toward thinking about film, but your filmic discourse is underdeveloped, as is your understanding of film as a language, even more so your vocabulary for cultural criticism, your lack of viewing breadth is evident in your lack of examples, and the depth of the thoughts you’re exploring is… let’s just say no lifejacket required.

                  i’m afraid this all combines to make a discussion with you on one of my favorite topics much less than interesting for me, at least until you can catch up. but i’m not one of those people who can patiently build a body of knowledge in somebody else from the ground up. so beyond the niblets that i’ve already shared, that i was thinking you’d engage with as common objects to look at together from different POVs, though you sorta just left them there uncommented upon, i’m going to let go of the reins and let you do the rest at your own pace.

                  i can help though, by suggesting some reading material (and a lot of watching), and once you’re up to speed we can explore thoughts beyond $11-movie-and-a-bucket-of-popcorn pedestrianism.

                  basics:
                  film language: a semiotics of cinema
                  new vocabularies in film semiotics: structuralism post-sturcturalism, and beyond
                  viktor shklovsky, art as technique (especially as pertains to brecth’s development of defamiliarization)

                  the resulting exploration when one controlls the mode of production (aka, not hollywood):
                  annette michelson, as nasty as they come when teaching… but man she has good taste.
                  october: the first decade (barring you find individual issues)
                  camera obscura camera lucida: essays in honor of AM
                  the new american cinema (essays by lots of authors) or try one of those avant-garde critical anthologies (most of them are called avant-garde movies/film/cinema)
                  old issues of cineaste
                  old issues of jump cut
                  visionary film

                  in current use:
                  slavoj zizek, though he focuses on reading the codes rather than examining film as a code carrier. bonus that he likes to film himself into the movies he’s talking about.

                  yes, these are mostly esoteric works, and may clash at first with a mainstream sensibility, but one can’t really hope to read below the first two surface levels of mainstream without understanding what’s going on in what’s different from it, or seeing the pace at which the mainstream discovers, gets to understand, and incorporates the avant-garde. good luck! (and it’s fun. you’ll like it.)

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 29,2014 11:42 pm || Up

                  Didn’t this start with a disagreement over how to hold an iPhone while shooting video?

                • AV AV Aug 30,2014 10:29 am || Up

                  oh wow. i was more pissed about the A’s than i thought.

                  anger projections; not just a film festival about kenneth.

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
            • MikeV MikeV Aug 25,2014 11:44 am || Up

              No. It looks weird.

              And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

              Thanks, and go As.

            • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 25,2014 12:04 pm || Up

              also, it is a highly produced piece that is made to look organic. the vertical orientation is a production choice.

              I have $5. No I don\'t.
              • AV AV Aug 25,2014 1:35 pm || Up

                not sure about relevance. isn’t every orientation always a choice, no matter the production level?

                *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • 5Aces 5Aces Aug 25,2014 1:36 pm || Up

                  Orientation is not a choice. #bornthisway

                  Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
                • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 25,2014 1:57 pm || Up

                  yes. it is. But there are many amateurs that are unconcerned with the way the video looks, they think they are going to film a ALS BC and pick up their phone and press the red circle. the video is going to come out however they hold it. their “choice” was hold the phone naturally with the little button on the bottom and the line on the top.

                  look at the gawker media sites. whenever there is a vert video, there are a dozen comments complain about it being a vert video. it looks amateurish.

                  Here, the people have access to the actor in question, the products and some CGI for post. they absolutely could have (and I expect did) film this with a professional video camera, not an iphone. But it looks like someone filmed it with a phone because of the orientation. (and the lighting, which I assume is a choice too)

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • dmoas Aug 25,2014 2:32 pm || Up

                  Yup. Which simply shows that both Old Spice guy AND the Ice Bucket Challenge have jumped the shark at the same time.

                • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 25,2014 2:38 pm || Up

                  oh and another thing, his feet are cut out of the frame (as is the non existent bucket of water) further demonstrating the amateurishness feel.

                  Also, in post, the darkened the deck around the Old Spice guy after the water is poured the first time.

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • dmoas Aug 25,2014 2:53 pm || Up

                  It’s the Blair Witch of Ice Bucket videos.

                • MikeV MikeV Aug 25,2014 2:40 pm || Up

                  I know you don’t like the Ice Bucket Challenge but yeah it’s raised like 40 million dollars, so…

                  And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

                  Thanks, and go As.

                • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 25,2014 2:46 pm || Up

                  As a former non-profit worker and a fan of creative fundraising efforts I think the Ice Bucket Challenge is fantastic, and I hope whoever came up with the idea feels really good about it. Hooray for them.

                  "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
                • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Aug 25,2014 2:50 pm || Up

                  The problem with the Ice Bucket Challenge isn’t the Ice Bucket Challenge. The problem is Facebook.

                • 5Aces 5Aces Aug 25,2014 4:22 pm || Up

                  And don’t forget Instagram, where LMA just posted a picture of ice on the ground since her dad cant figure out how to do an Instagram video.

                  (and yes she is going to be donating also and we did it on the lawn which would be watered anyways).

                  My friend challenged me, but his challenge was much better; we have to completely finish an ice cold beverage and donate. Video to follow if I can stand the frosty brew…

                  Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
                • MikeV MikeV Aug 25,2014 2:52 pm || Up

                  actually the guy that came up with it passed away last week.

                  Ironically, he drowned.

                  And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

                  Thanks, and go As.

                • dmoas Aug 25,2014 2:52 pm || Up

                  I like that they’ve raised a shit ton of money. That part is undeniably, irrefutably awesome. It’s just run it’s course, it’s no longer original and I believe the majority of people aren’t doing it for ALS but because of it’s popularity giving it even less meaning. It’s reached a point where it’s just another dumb internet meme annoying people left and right through the interwebz. Sure it’s one of the few that actually produced something of value to society as it did, but it makes the actual act no less meaningless and annoying.

                • MikeV MikeV Aug 25,2014 2:54 pm || Up

                  I’m going to nominate you if I ever get nominated.

                  And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

                  Thanks, and go As.

                • dmoas Aug 25,2014 3:00 pm || Up

                  That’s fine. And I will ignore it.

                • AV AV Aug 25,2014 5:47 pm || Up

                  you might be saying people make aesthetic choices badly. but there are good ways to make the choice too. can’t put a hex on rhyming poetry just because bad poets do it badly. when it’s done well, it works well as a choice. entirety of my point.

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 25,2014 5:52 pm || Up

                  I will agree that there may be situations where the aesthetic choice to make a vert video are correct.

                  I will not agree that poetry is not bad.

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 25,2014 6:03 pm || Up

                  I don’t know. Rhyming poetry may be dead and buried for me. At a certain point, a field of study or an art form reach a point where they’ve moved beyond old forms which have become useless. Rhyming poetry is to poetry what epic poems are to history, in my view. We said everything we needed to say and everything we could say, as a species, with rhyming poems.

    • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 25,2014 11:10 am || Up

      Orlando Jones’ bullet challenge and Patrick Stewart’s stiff drink top that for me.

  37. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 25,2014 1:55 pm

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • 5Aces 5Aces Aug 25,2014 1:59 pm || Up

      Little Miss Aces got to see the characters for the first time yesterday. This got us started on a conversation about Rollie. She asked if he was in the HoF just because of his moustache. A fair amount of me wanted to say yes.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
      • andeux andeux Aug 25,2014 2:02 pm || Up

        If you could split him in two, you’d have two hall of famers (the pitcher, and the mustache).

        TINSTAAFK
  38. MikeV MikeV Aug 25,2014 2:08 pm

    Jermaine Jones to MLS is one of the strangest transfer sagas I can remember.

    They eventually decided which team he went to via blind draw. Really?

    also, ESPN FC seems redesigned again. Slightly less terrible, it doesn’t look like a zoomed in mobile site anymore.

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Aug 25,2014 2:17 pm || Up

      That league just makes up the rules as it goes along and then pretends it is all by the book.

      • MikeV MikeV Aug 25,2014 2:21 pm || Up

        Yup. Sad, really. Makes it really hard to try and get people interested in it.

        This shit has GOT to be straightened out with the next CBA, among other issues.

        And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

        Thanks, and go As.

  39. MikeV MikeV Aug 25,2014 2:57 pm

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

    • 5Aces 5Aces Aug 25,2014 3:02 pm || Up

      So why put him on waivers? Is it the hope that someone else would have backed up the truck and said “here, let us give you Trout and a bucket of prospects and cash”? Just a motivation ply? Because honestly I dont think it is a great idea to take a guy that seems to be a bit of a head case and tell him “dont worry, we dont want to let you go”. I can see him thinking he is no to valuable to be traded and they care to much about his homophonbe opinion.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
      • MikeV MikeV Aug 25,2014 3:11 pm || Up

        yeah it’s weird. I think maybe they are kinda tired of him too.

        And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

        Thanks, and go As.

      • nevermoor nevermoor Aug 25,2014 3:40 pm || Up

        because everyone puts all their players on waivers at some point.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • Soaker Soaker Aug 25,2014 4:14 pm || Up

        See below re: Bartolo Colon. If the guy clears, you’re free to make a deal with anyone as if if were pre-July 31. Particularly if the player isn’t in your plans for next year, a situation may come up in late August where somebody else suddenly needs a player at a certain position. That’s why Geovany Soto is looking for a pair of white shoes right now.

        Support locally made sausage!
  40. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 25,2014 3:09 pm

    Latest Slussdate:

    * Donaldson’s sore knee is better, and older sore hamstring is completely healed now. He’s in lineup tonight

    * Fuld day-to-day with sore knee from play at wall yesterday

    * Lowrie could be back this weekend

    * Punto running at full strength, rehab assignment may be soon

    * Soto has met team in Houston and was told he’ll start tomorrow

    Crisp CF, Callaspo DH, Donaldson 3B, Vogt 1B, Norris C, Moss LF, Reddick RF, Parrino SS, Sogard 2B, and Samardzija on the hill.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • dmoas Aug 25,2014 3:13 pm || Up

      Sam better fucking bring it. No more of this bullshit sucking ass.

      • MikeV MikeV Aug 25,2014 3:17 pm || Up

        yea, we gave up Milone for him!

        And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

        Thanks, and go As.

        • dmoas Aug 25,2014 3:24 pm || Up

          Other Sam.

          • MikeV MikeV Aug 25,2014 3:25 pm || Up

            yea, we gave up Russell for him!

            And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

            Thanks, and go As.

            • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 25,2014 3:28 pm || Up

              this guy?

              I have $5. No I don\'t.
              • AV AV Aug 25,2014 5:50 pm || Up

                *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 25,2014 3:24 pm || Up

          [scratches head]

          heh, all the cubs have the same name and suck.

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • andeux andeux Aug 25,2014 3:52 pm || Up

            Sam Fuld
            Sam Jaffara Jizd
            Sam Jamn Hole
            San Too Vogey

            TINSTAAFK
  41. MikeV MikeV Aug 25,2014 3:24 pm

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

    • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 25,2014 3:25 pm || Up

      So, Melvin wields the Ban Hammel?

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • colin colin Aug 25,2014 3:29 pm || Up

        Isn’t Hammel pitching tomorrow?

        • dmoas Aug 25,2014 3:33 pm || Up

          Unfortunately.

        • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 25,2014 3:37 pm || Up

          damn. I thought he was being skipped.

          Was he already skipped? Why is Pomeranz pitching then?

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 25,2014 3:39 pm || Up

            He was skipped, last week when we had two off-days. He was in the pen for the Mets series.

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • colin colin Aug 25,2014 3:40 pm || Up

            Using a sixth starter this time around so that our rotation vs the Angels will be Gray, Lester, Kazmir, Shark (instead of Lester, Kazmir, Shark, Hammel).

            • 5Aces 5Aces Aug 25,2014 4:12 pm || Up

              After yesterday are we sure we wouldnt rather somehow have Gray, Lester, Shark, Hammel/Pomeranz?

              Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
              • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 25,2014 4:25 pm || Up

                I think Kazmir will be fine, he was missing locations yesterday but the extra day of rest before the next start should help.

                "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Aug 25,2014 3:40 pm || Up

            To push the entire No Hammels Club into the Anaheim series.

          • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 25,2014 3:41 pm || Up

            The value of pitching both Hammel and Pomegranate in Houston is that it lets the A’s throw Gray Lester Kazmir Samardzija in Anaheim.

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • AV AV Aug 25,2014 5:51 pm || Up

            an ASVD is more fun than facts anyday.

            *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • MikeV MikeV Aug 25,2014 3:38 pm || Up

        Its too bad he wasn’t secretly waived and then traded for Escobar.

        And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

        Thanks, and go As.

        • 5Aces 5Aces Aug 25,2014 4:13 pm || Up

          Well with all those clubs who were begging Billy to have him at the deadline…

          Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
      • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 25,2014 3:38 pm || Up

        Hah hah, you funny.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Dial C for Concupiscence Dial C for Concupiscence Aug 25,2014 3:41 pm || Up

      So it was written. So shall it be

  42. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Aug 25,2014 4:03 pm

    The Coliseum City “plans” still include an NBA arena? OK…

    • nevermoor nevermoor Aug 25,2014 4:11 pm || Up

      More shocking to me is the Raiders get a new stadium. The Arena, I understand, still has a purpose without the Warriors.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Aug 25,2014 4:15 pm || Up

        It does, but an NBA-level arena that not only doesn’t have an NBA team, but also has to compete for concerts and other events with a brand new NBA Arena in San Francisco is a terrible investment.

        • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 25,2014 4:23 pm || Up

          No, Oracle is considered a very strong venue for arena events like concerts and ice shows and such. It did not lose much business when San Jose came online, and its not expected to lose much business to a new SF arena (which is far from a done deal).

          Also, the Warriors are on the hook for entire existing debt on the Oracle, per the terms of the agreement with the team to gut/renovate the place way back when. So for City/County purposes its fully paid for, hence little downside to keeping it in use.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Aug 25,2014 4:25 pm || Up

            I don’t understand. They would just be leaving Oracle there and building around it? I thought they would be building an entirely new arena.

            • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 25,2014 4:30 pm || Up

              Yes, under all of the actual development scenarios I am aware of the Oracle Arena remains standing.

              It’s useful to think of the Coliseum City plans more as a broad conceptual framework contemplating a wide range of possible developments. So for CEQA purposes yes, you do have to run scenarios where everything existing is razed and three new sports facilities are built. You also run scenarios where zero new facilities are built. What actually gets developed will be somewhere in between, but will then be covered by the EIR which broadly considered all the options.

              "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
              • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Aug 25,2014 4:32 pm || Up

                Cool. Thanks for the explanation. I’m in favor of leaving Oracle standing so we have a place for FanFest when the monster trucks are using our new ballpark.

              • dmoas Aug 25,2014 4:36 pm || Up

                Not true. There’s a couple of scenarios where it’s removed and at least one where they build a new one across the highway. But it does pretty much cover nearly every scenario of using the three teams with baseball & football getting new facilities or not being there. And since when they started they really had no sense of who was staying and who was going it was kind of necessary.

                • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 25,2014 4:42 pm || Up

                  No, again, you’re confusing possibilities which the EIR must contemplate with “actual development scenarios,” by which I mean real plans that someone right now might actually be talking about actually building. I thought I was clear but apparently not clear enough.

                  "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
            • andeux andeux Aug 25,2014 4:34 pm || Up

              Your link says

              a new NFL football stadium, MLB ballpark, and NBA basketball arena

              Another SFGate article says

              In addition to a new ballpark for the A’s and a new football stadium for the Raiders, the plan includes an arena for the Golden State Warriors

              And the official City release says

              up to three new sports venues

              None of which is really clear. In the drawings, it looks like the arena sits more or less where the current one is (with the new baseball park in the North lot, and the new football stadium in the south lot).

              Anyway, there’s something to be said for doing the study for the most ambitious possible project, and then scaling back as necessary.
              [Edit: or, what FSU said]

              TINSTAAFK
              • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Aug 25,2014 4:37 pm || Up

                Add to that this SFist article that says

                a project they forsee spanning the next 20 years that would include the construction of a new stadiums for the Raiders and the A’s, as well as a new basketball arena (for a team other than the Warriors)

                • dmoas Aug 25,2014 4:40 pm || Up

                  From ML:

                  All told there are 10 versions of the Project under consideration:

                  Alternative 1: No Project Alternative (all teams leave when leases end, Arena stays, Coliseum is torn down, minimal development comes afterward)
                  Alternative 2A: New stadia, existing arena stays intact
                  Alternative 2B: 1 new stadium or ballpark + new arena
                  Alternative 2C: 1 new stadium or ballpark + existing arena
                  Alternative 2D: New arena only
                  Alternative 2E: Existing arena only, no new venues built
                  Alternative 2F: Similar to Project, but with smaller football stadium (per NFL/Raiders specs)
                  Alternative 3: Reduced Buildout – similar to Project, but with about two-thirds of the residential units and other development
                  Alternative 4: Maximum Buildout – similar to Project, but 20% more residential units and total square footage

          • dmoas Aug 25,2014 4:30 pm || Up

            I thought there was still some pretty major debt involved with the Oracle for the latest reno.

            • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 25,2014 4:40 pm || Up

              It’s debt that the Warriors lease says they are responsible for, through the bond expiration date in 2027, regardless of whether the team still plays there or not. The Warriors are making noises like they won’t pay, but the terms seem crystal clear to me (IANAL) that the debt is a GSW obligation, not City/County.

              "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
            • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 25,2014 5:59 pm || Up

              Someone either here or at newballpark.org said the Dubs are the ones on the hook for that.

    • dmoas Aug 25,2014 4:28 pm || Up

      Meh, it makes sense. Back when they funded the thing the Warriors hadn’t even figured out a site. I can’t imagine just having them stop considering them just because late in the game they did.

  43. Englishmajor Englishmajor Aug 25,2014 4:07 pm

    • 5Aces 5Aces Aug 25,2014 4:14 pm || Up

      The Sunday loss as an effective blocking strategy?

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
      • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 25,2014 6:01 pm || Up

        They cleared waivers completely, so there’s no blocking involved.

        • 5Aces 5Aces Aug 25,2014 6:14 pm || Up

          Reading is hard. Though it makes me wonder why we didn’t try to block to make sure slegnA did not have a chance.

          Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
          • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Aug 25,2014 6:16 pm || Up

            Colon is owed a lot of money next year. I bet even the Angels aren’t interested in paying full freight.

            • 5Aces 5Aces Aug 25,2014 6:26 pm || Up

              paying full freight

              Snerk

              Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
            • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 25,2014 6:31 pm || Up

              We should be. We don’t have a fifth starter we can trust right now.

    • Englishmajor Englishmajor Aug 25,2014 5:49 pm || Up

      If we got Feldman it would increase attendance from Burlingame, I suppose.

    • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 25,2014 6:00 pm || Up

      You know what you need to do, Billy.

      • MikeV MikeV Aug 25,2014 9:32 pm || Up

        go back to pre-deadline and acquire Rollins, don’t do the Cubs trade, get Price, and don’t trade Addison Russell?

        And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

        Thanks, and go As.

        • 5Aces 5Aces Aug 25,2014 10:09 pm || Up

          Doesn’t he first need to go back further in time to make Amaro not be a dunderkind who wont try and move pieces that arent helping him?

          Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
          • 5Aces 5Aces Aug 25,2014 10:10 pm || Up

            And hell, if he can do that can we start with not letting Eck walk friggin Mike Davis?

            Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
            • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 25,2014 10:24 pm || Up

              Guys, you clearly did not pay attention to Doc Brown’s TED Talk on the dangers of disrupting the space-time continuum.

  44. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Aug 25,2014 4:09 pm

    Glad this guy isn’t our problem, and I’m not even convinced he’s a bigot.

    • MikeV MikeV Aug 25,2014 4:13 pm || Up

      yea I’m not even bothered by the eye black thing, I think that was a lot more overblown and he honestly didn’t realize how much of an issue it was in the US.

      I do think he’s disturbingly lazy and unmotivated though, and in that case I don’t want him in Oakland.

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

    • nowBodhi Aug 25,2014 6:06 pm || Up

      He needs his baby daddy Joe Maddon to hold his widdle hand… who’s the MARICON now, fuckface? I’d slap this piece of living feces’ face so he’d be the first on his block to get punked by a faggot. He is not a baseball player and he is not a man. A gutless CU Next Tuesday little bitch is what he is.

      Never suck on a Blow Pop with the microphone open.
  45. nowBodhi Aug 25,2014 4:38 pm

    It’s the 63rd birthday of the Metal God, Mr. Rob Halford… and that means it’s Metal Monday on the blog. Crunch over for a blistering two-hour pre-FM shredtacular show, featuring who else but Judas Priest, 40 years ago on their DEFENDERS OF THE FAITH onslaught through the USA.

    Never suck on a Blow Pop with the microphone open.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 25,2014 4:57 pm || Up

      I had row 5 seats for Judas Priest in DC in 1983 or 1984, great show. It’s funny in retrospect that I was not able to recognize the motorcycle riding, leather clap, whip-cracking Halford as the gay man he subsequently revealed himself to be.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • nowBodhi Aug 25,2014 5:31 pm || Up

        my first concert:
        9/1/1979
        KISS/Judas Priest
        Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum
        Uniondale, NY

        Never suck on a Blow Pop with the microphone open.
      • AV AV Aug 25,2014 6:18 pm || Up

        one of the greatest gotchas ever perpetrated on the pubescent american male.

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 25,2014 7:55 pm || Up

          this guys gaydar was working. Albeit a little misplaced

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • ptbnl Aug 25,2014 5:37 pm || Up

      Such an egg-head.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  46. James V. James V. Aug 25,2014 7:45 pm

    Damn, this was good.

  47. AV AV Aug 26,2014 1:11 pm

    man-u must feel like suckers for paying U$98 mill. when he was 6 years old, the transfer fee was only 26 new balls to his neighborhood club (that rosario central never actually sent).

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • nevermoor nevermoor Aug 26,2014 1:35 pm || Up

      Well… you know… inflation.`

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  48. Future Ed Future Ed Aug 26,2014 1:17 pm

    New Beltre/Andrus

    I love going to ranger games to watch them

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  49. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 26,2014 1:23 pm

    2014 Hardly Strictly Bluegrass lineup announced, and it includes X and Social Distortion. But I’ve kind of made other plans for the first weekend in October.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 26,2014 1:37 pm || Up

      Ugh, why’d I move to Kansas.

      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Aug 26,2014 1:43 pm || Up

        If I claim to be a wise man, it surely means that I don’t know.

        • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 26,2014 2:06 pm || Up

          Hee hee, hilarious!

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 26,2014 3:30 pm || Up

          Well, at least it’s not a Wizard of Oz reference or a crack about evolution, so you get a pass.

      • Jennifer Jennifer Aug 26,2014 3:24 pm || Up

        Next month I’m accidentally going to see John Prine and some people on that list.

        • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 26,2014 3:31 pm || Up

          Where’s he playing?

          • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 26,2014 3:32 pm || Up

            Ehrmagehrd, you’re not going all the way to Missouri are you?

            • Jennifer Jennifer Aug 26,2014 4:35 pm || Up

              Dude. I LIVE in Missouri.

              • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 26,2014 4:52 pm || Up

                If you can call that living.

                "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
            • Jennifer Jennifer Aug 27,2014 4:25 pm || Up

              Also, he opens for the Avett Brothers. Ha!

              • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 27,2014 4:50 pm || Up

                Regardless of how one feels about the Avett Brothers, it’s a travesty of justice that John Prine has to open for them.

  50. MikeV MikeV Aug 26,2014 1:51 pm
    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Aug 26,2014 2:54 pm || Up

      Have you had your eyes checked recently? Because those are very, very ugly.

      • nevermoor nevermoor Aug 26,2014 3:00 pm || Up

        These, for example, would be far better soccer cleats.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • nevermoor nevermoor Aug 26,2014 3:01 pm || Up

          Or these.

          (notice a theme?)

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • MikeV MikeV Aug 26,2014 3:18 pm || Up

            I have these

            And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

            Thanks, and go As.

            • nevermoor nevermoor Aug 26,2014 3:25 pm || Up

              Those are not consistent with the pattern.

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • MikeV MikeV Aug 26,2014 3:17 pm || Up

        HAVE YOU HAD YOUR FACE CHECKED BECAUSE SHUT UP

        I dunno. that’s all I got.

        And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

        Thanks, and go As.

  51. MikeV MikeV Aug 26,2014 3:23 pm

    Yes. FK you ESPN. They literally reported on Michael Sam’s SHOWER SCHEDULE

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

    • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 26,2014 3:34 pm || Up

      “#BREAKING News: Michael Sam’s dick doesn’t make the rest of his teammates uncomfortable. Here to tell us why they’re wrong is Skip Bayless.”

    • James V. James V. Aug 26,2014 3:40 pm || Up

      What a joke.

      Now ESPN is defending it by saying Josina Anderson didn’t ask anyone about showering, that they volunteered the info and she just reported it, but come on. It’s obvious even bothering to ask how Michael Sam is “fitting in” there is meant to draw a response about stuff like that in hope of finding something on the gay dude.

      Because, as we all know, gay men only care about fucking every dude they lay eyes on and naked ones just take less time to do the deed with.

  52. AV AV Aug 26,2014 4:22 pm

    brewmasters:

    i have been trickledown re-gifted a bottle of a home-made brew of the beerlike variety. it was one in a batch, bottled about 2 months ago, of unlabeled champagne-looking bottles, but instead of a champagne cork it has a standard metal bottlecap with a hand-dipped wax seal over it. someone carried it to my office in a backpack, and while it was in the bag it lay horizontally, so that when we took it out, we noticed there was a slight leak of the fluid from the cap area.

    the questions: A) is it safe to drink, or will it give me salmonella or whatever? B) do i *want* to drink it, or will it just be flat?

    i suppose only A is essential, and B i can figure out on my own once i know A.

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • ptbnl Aug 26,2014 4:45 pm || Up

      More information on what it is and how it was brewed would help, but
      A) Short of adding arsenic as a mystery ingredient, home brew is safe.
      B) If the cap wasn’t air-tight it’s almost certainly flat and likely oxidized too.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • AV AV Aug 26,2014 4:54 pm || Up

        if only the middle-gifter had been paying attention, i could give more detail.

        given your A response, i will try a sip and let the taste buds decide what to do next.

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  53. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Aug 26,2014 6:57 pm
    • East Bay Evans East Bay Evans Aug 26,2014 8:08 pm || Up

      But – but – 360-degree walkway around the field! Whoa nelly!

    • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 26,2014 9:39 pm || Up

      we only go to games when the team is winning.

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Dial C for Concupiscence Dial C for Concupiscence Aug 27,2014 2:28 pm || Up

      Good thing we can count on the LA Times to be the authority on anything baseball stadiums

  54. Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 26,2014 8:14 pm

    I really don’t see how MLB ruled against Maddon’s protest. The rule might need tweaking, but until it’s tweaked, it should be enforced.

    • dmoas Aug 27,2014 11:36 am || Up

      It’s sort of a catch 22. Either you rule in favor of the Rays and get the call on the field wrong. Or you rule in favor of the Jays and get the “rule” wrong. But part of that rule is left in the umpires’ discretion.

      • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 27,2014 12:01 pm || Up

        I think rules need to be rules and umpires should have as little discretion as possible. But then I still think the strike zone should be uniformly defined as over the plate and between the letters and the knees, so I’m pretty clearly not on the same page with MLB.

        • dmoas Aug 27,2014 12:34 pm || Up

          I think the newness of replay is also a part of the equation so it’s not quite the same thing. If the goal and purpose of replay is to get the calls right then that should take precedence over everything else. That being said, robo balls & strikes set to the letter of the rule. And start fking enforcing the time limit to PITCH THE FUCKING BALL.

  55. East Bay Evans East Bay Evans Aug 26,2014 8:16 pm

    Napoli just hit one to the 5th deck in Toronto.

  56. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Aug 27,2014 12:46 pm

    lolololololololol

    Saved you a click is a joke that’s over, just as all jokes-of-a-moment eventually turn into the cloying aftertaste of unimportance. It’s a joke that’s turned into a crusade in the name of formalism; a series of sad internet book reports insisting that there’s no room for depth behind the binary series of yes / no answers haunting every thoughtful person’s wettest nightmares.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 27,2014 1:20 pm || Up

      That’s hilarious, what an idiot. I would have thought Vox media in particular would appreciate unpaid efforts which bring attention to their products.

      In my case I saw from (of all places) the Twitter scroll box on the newballpark blog that Tim Goodman said something about the final episode of the Sopranos, then I read Goodman’s write up which told me what Chase had said, and then because I’m interested in this stuff I read the whole Vox article. Hiding the punchline had nothing to do with Vox getting my click, and if I had had to work any harder I would have given up before reaching the Vox article.

      For those wondering, David Chase apparently told an interviewer Tony Soprano did not die at the end.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • AV AV Aug 27,2014 1:29 pm || Up

        noooooooooooo! •

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • AV AV Aug 27,2014 1:27 pm || Up

      yes, yes he is. savedyouaclick!

      but why your lol? is it as complicated as: the irony of calling SYaC a depthless yes/no answer when it’s actually combating the depthless yes/no question entitling* all clickbait articles, those that this writer decided instead to term a thoughtful person’s wet nightmare as if those articles on what “i won’t believe they’re doing this time,” et al, were somehow on a par with that dead tony piece**?

      * both senses intended.

      ** i can’t wait to read it.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Aug 27,2014 2:15 pm || Up

        Well, for one thing:

    • James V. James V. Aug 27,2014 1:34 pm || Up

      Like it’s been said, maybe they shouldn’t have made a headline that could be answered with a simple yes or no. Vox/Verge gets many more daily views than SavedYouAClick has followers, according to a comment in that whiny post, so what’s the problem anyway? A number of people have said they’d have never read the story in the first place without SavedYouAClick, and others said they’d never heard of SavedYouAClick before.

      If anything is bullshit, it’s clickbait stories and links spreading around the web. If someone wants to cut to the chase and reveal them, more power to him. People don’t have to follow him.

      • dmoas Aug 27,2014 2:38 pm || Up

        I wish they’d do actual work instead of trying to come up with stupid title attempting to bait people into garbage. The idiocy of “Best you didn’t know…” bullshit is so monumental, especially when the actual news of it shows up right next to it giving you the answer.

        • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 27,2014 2:44 pm || Up

          If people really want that shit to stop, there is a very simple solution: Reject the obsession with free shit on the internet. The only way content can be monetized effectively right now, for almost every provider, is via advertising, which means clicks, which means clickbait. Our refusal to pay for quality shit has created the monster of free, but low-quality shit. There’s a reason almost all of the best TV shows have historically been on HBO or similar premium channels. Someone needs to create that kind of model for internet content, and then we need to embrace it.

          • dmoas Aug 27,2014 3:20 pm || Up

            Meh. There are plenty of great cable series as well. The problem is that even when you pay for it, they still find ways to inundate you with ads. HBO and Starz and the like bombard you with ads for their shows in between movies and what have you. It may not be quite the same thing, but it’s not entirely ad free and high quality as you may think. They also have some truly awful content as well.

    • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 27,2014 1:39 pm || Up

      I think the trouble with savedyouaclick is that it gets applied to everything, whether it’s clickbait or not.

      • nevermoor nevermoor Aug 27,2014 1:44 pm || Up

        I think of all the things on the internet to complain about, that’s number [insert long string of numbers here].

        Also, burying the lede in the story is a gimmick. If I were linking it here, I would certainly spoil the answer.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • 5Aces 5Aces Aug 27,2014 2:22 pm || Up

          If only they had more catchy Yahoo friendly headlines. #nothingischanging

          Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
          • Dial C for Concupiscence Dial C for Concupiscence Aug 27,2014 2:31 pm || Up

            I think we’re forgetting what’s really important here: what do the advertisers think?

            • dmoas Aug 27,2014 2:51 pm || Up

              Pissing off link clickers who feel baited can’t really help their bottom line. Especially when they become less and less inclined to stay on that page and reducing the potential of seeing the ad.

              • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 27,2014 4:53 pm || Up

                A click is a click is a click. People keep clicking on clickbait, so content sites keep making money. That said, I’ve heard rumblings for awhile now that advertisers are going to start applying pressure to change the monetization model, trying to base it on actual clicked ads, rather than on impressions. That seems like a good way to start a war with content providers, but we’ll see. Probably they’ll just move more in the direction of more invasive ads, which guarantee greater visibility.

            • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 27,2014 4:13 pm || Up
              I have $5. No I don\'t.
  57. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 27,2014 1:34 pm

    A’s have a ticket promo, good only until 4:00 PM today, selling Plaza Outfield/Reserved tickets for $5 each for the game on Tues Sept 2.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 27,2014 4:14 pm || Up

      I had a promotion of $40 right behind home plate.

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  58. colin colin Aug 27,2014 2:05 pm

    I’ve hardly seen any live music this year, so I’m super pumped for all-time obnoxious band name double-bill of Joanna Gruesome and Perfect Pussy tonight in Cambridge! I would recommend that you all go see them, except that JG played Oakland and SF last week and I don’t know of any west coast dates for PP.

    • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 27,2014 2:41 pm || Up

      Eh. If punk rock is going to continue not having any new ideas, I think there are better old ideas to revisit than hardcore. Can I get the occasional NOFX clone in there with all the Cro-Mags and Black Flag clones?

      • colin colin Aug 27,2014 3:09 pm || Up

        I would take many many Black Flag clones over a NOFX clone.

      • colin colin Aug 27,2014 3:10 pm || Up

        Also, what about the entire Fat Wreck roster?

        • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 27,2014 4:55 pm || Up

          I stopped listening to new punk rock years ago. A couple times a year I poke my head back in to check and see if it’s still the same. I guess I just plum forgot about Fat Wreck. I don’t remember them being a bunch of NOFX clones, though. They were all clones, but not of NOFX. I could be misremembering though.

          Does Epitaph still have any punk bands on it, or have they gone full-indie-rock by now?

          • colin colin Aug 28,2014 7:08 am || Up

            I’m not really sure what Epitaph puts out these days. Fat Possum, which spun off from Epitaph at some point, releases some pretty cool non-punk.

            • James V. James V. Aug 28,2014 7:15 am || Up

              That Coliseum possum will be getting pretty fat if it dines on ballpark fare.

              • colin colin Aug 28,2014 7:23 am || Up

                After posting the last comment, I looked up the Epitaph-Fat Possum connection and it’s a bit sordid, with lawsuits and such.

            • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 28,2014 1:35 pm || Up

              wasn’t honest don’s also a spin off?

              I have $5. No I don\'t.
              • colin colin Aug 28,2014 2:15 pm || Up

                Honest Don’s was a spin off from Fat Wreck, right?

                Epitaph had Hellcat, Burning Heart, ANTI. Turns out that Fat Possum was a separate label that was somehow financially tied to Epitaph (maybe partly owned by?) but then they had a falling out.

                • colin colin Aug 28,2014 2:19 pm || Up

                  Hellcat was the Tim Armstrong vanity label. I think that Burning Heart was Swedish (or European) punk, but I really only know that they put out the Refused stuff. ANTI was for when Epitaph started branching out into bands/artists that didn’t sound like Bad Religion — I think some of their first releases were Tom Waits albums.

                • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 28,2014 7:57 pm || Up

                  ANTI was cool. Do they still exist?

                • AV AV Aug 29,2014 9:57 am || Up

                  broke up just as my middle school class discovered them. but we got a lot of mileage out of the name.

                  —”i don’t like this. i don’t like that. can’t say why. but i’m not willing to admit it’s my personal preference so i’ll pretend it’s an objective fact.”

                  —”dude, you’re so anti.”

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 28,2014 3:01 pm || Up

                  right.

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • colin colin Aug 28,2014 6:27 pm || Up

                  This is all making me want to dig up and listen to old punk label comps from the 90’s. Those were the best back when I was in high school because you got 70 minutes of music for like $4.

                • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 28,2014 7:58 pm || Up

                  Remember when Punk-O-Rama existed/was good?

                • colin colin Aug 29,2014 10:07 am || Up

                  I think the ones I listened to were Punk-o-rama 2, 3, and 4.

                  Those and the Hellcat Records comps, a couple of Fat Wreck comps, lots of ska comps from Asian Man Records.

  59. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 27,2014 2:44 pm

    Nate Freiman to Single-A Beloit, so he can come back more quickly when their no-playoffs season ends.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Soaker Soaker Aug 27,2014 3:15 pm || Up

      That says something, that the top 3 affiliates are either in their playoffs (Midland and Stockton) or leading their race (Sacramento). And I have here an e-mail from the River Cats advertising the promos on their final homestand vs. the second-place Aces and offering the opportunity to buy playoff tickets. Meanwhile, Fresno (AAA) and San Jose (High A) play out the schedule, the AA Richmond Flying Squirrels being the only one of the Giants’ three top clubs to make their playoffs. Take note, Ms. Savage.

      Support locally made sausage!
  60. ptbnl Aug 27,2014 3:03 pm

    Anibal Sanchez confirmed right pectoral strain.

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • dmoas Aug 27,2014 3:23 pm || Up

      Shouldn’t have been making them dance so much.

  61. nowBodhi Aug 27,2014 4:11 pm

    It’s 8/27, and that means it’s time to celebrate what would’ve been the 74th birthday of Joshy’s all-time favorite guitar player. Did Sonny Sharrock play guitar, or was it really more like some sort of devastating, deadly weapon in his hands? Blog over for two coruscating sets from Germany in 1987 and 1992, in which the man experiments with blowing the roofs clean off of concert venues using just a guitar, some effects, a bottleneck slide and an amplifier. Yes, Happy Birthday to the world’s greatest lead artillery player, born this very day in 1940!

    Never suck on a Blow Pop with the microphone open.
    • dmoas Aug 27,2014 4:20 pm || Up

      He looks like he fell asleep while playing the guitar.

      • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 27,2014 4:58 pm || Up

        He died as he lived: guitar-ing.

      • nowBodhi Aug 27,2014 4:58 pm || Up

        hahahahaha ROFL very much the opposite. He is in a trance LOL

        Never suck on a Blow Pop with the microphone open.
        • nowBodhi Aug 27,2014 5:01 pm || Up

          as Steve Marcus stands behind him, nervously contemplating whether he should attempt to revive Sonny with the soprano sax he is holding ROFLMAO

          Never suck on a Blow Pop with the microphone open.
          • andeux andeux Aug 27,2014 5:11 pm || Up

            I wouldn’t. Get too close to Sonny while he’s playing and your skin might burn off.

            TINSTAAFK
    • andeux andeux Sep 1,2014 6:31 pm || Up

      Thanks for this one.
      I’m a big fan of Ask the Ages too, and that ’92 set just rips. The ’87 one ain’t bad either.

      TINSTAAFK
  62. vignette17 Aug 28,2014 5:54 pm

    JoePo burn:

  63. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 28,2014 6:37 pm

    Vince just now on pregame: “The reality is, who is going to step on the clutch?” He’s doubling up on the Vince-isms. He’s gotta be trolling us, right?

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 28,2014 8:00 pm || Up

      Wait…you can’t establish the premise of making a declarative statement of reality and then follow it with a question. This is like some next-level philosophy shit.

    • MikeV MikeV Aug 28,2014 11:43 pm || Up

      I’ve heard him say “step on the clutch” before.

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

  64. vignette17 Aug 29,2014 12:10 am

    This was pretty solid:

    • nevermoor nevermoor Aug 29,2014 1:01 am || Up

      Best one of those I’ve seen in awhile.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Aug 29,2014 10:31 am || Up

      Fantastic.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 29,2014 4:22 pm || Up

      “Everyone who thought we should have kept Chris Carter, leave the room.”

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  65. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 29,2014 10:36 am
    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  66. nevermoor nevermoor Aug 29,2014 10:45 am

    Fun little Labor Day exercise. Took a couple tries to get right.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • AV AV Aug 29,2014 10:56 am || Up

      ouch. (the anesthesia’s not working!)

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • ptbnl Aug 29,2014 2:51 pm || Up

      I interpreted legislators as members of senate or congress and was wildly off.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  67. AV AV Aug 29,2014 10:50 am

    file under nobody cares but i’m shocked: after a 0-1, 1-0, 0-3, 1-3 campaign beginning, bianchi’s out as boca jrs’ manager! i think the only one who saw that the firing of the winningest manager in the club’s history was coming was the photo editor at clarin.

    and now i’m gonna have to learn how to spell arraubarrena. and find out who he is.

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • MikeV MikeV Aug 29,2014 10:58 am || Up

      I’ll have you know Matias Perez Garcia, the guy the Earthquakes signed from Argentina (INSTEAD OF MIX DISKERUD GOD DAMMIT) tore his meniscus in his 2nd game with the team and is out for like 6 weeks.

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

      • AV AV Aug 29,2014 11:03 am || Up

        so i need to teach you argie cuss words, is what i’m hearing?

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • MikeV MikeV Aug 29,2014 11:40 am || Up

          i mean, obviously.

          And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

          Thanks, and go As.

      • Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Aug 29,2014 11:19 am || Up

        THANKS LEW

  68. Glorious Mundy Glorious Mundy Aug 29,2014 11:47 am
    • MikeV MikeV Aug 29,2014 12:08 pm || Up

      Good. FK that guy.

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

  69. Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 29,2014 11:52 am

    A’s not filing protest, per SuSlu. Fuckbeans.

  70. lenscrafters Aug 29,2014 12:22 pm
  71. nevermoor nevermoor Aug 29,2014 4:00 pm

    It’ll be just like getting a star pass rusher at the trading deadline.

    Alternate:

    Why the fuck does every sport hate me?!?

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • doctorK doctorK Aug 29,2014 4:17 pm || Up

      Not exactly unexpected, but longer than I figured.

      • nevermoor nevermoor Aug 29,2014 5:01 pm || Up

        Ray Rice: Knocks wife unconscious, 2 weeks
        Aldon: DUI + Gun charges. Dangerous but no actual harm caused: 9 weeks

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • batgirl batgirl Aug 29,2014 5:04 pm || Up

          Prater: in DUI program, drinks a few beers at home: 4 weeks

        • andeux andeux Aug 29,2014 5:15 pm || Up

          Uh, someone got shot.

          And that guy in Cleveland who smoked weed: 16 weeks.

          TINSTAAFK
          • nevermoor nevermoor Aug 29,2014 6:34 pm || Up

            Not by Aldon.

            If that’s the standard, where was Ray Lewis’ suspension?

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
            • MikeV MikeV Aug 29,2014 6:51 pm || Up

              end result of Aldon’s gun thing was 2 misdemeanors for guns that were legal where he bought them. Pleading ignorance is kinda dumb but whatever — 5 games for that is a joke.

              The LAX thing can’t be taken into consideration because he wasn’t charged. That’s in the CBA.

              4 games for the DUI — well, a DUI should carry pretty severe punishment but there was some hope that since he voluntarily missed 5 games last year to go to rehab they would go light on him.

              At this point there’s basically just no rhyme or reason to how long suspensions are.

              And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

              Thanks, and go As.

            • andeux andeux Aug 29,2014 7:40 pm || Up

              Starting a shootout where someone gets shot does not qualify for “no actual harm” either logically or legally (I think, but you’re the lawyer, not me).

              Ray Lewis should have been suspended too, yes.

              TINSTAAFK
              • nevermoor nevermoor Aug 30,2014 11:50 pm || Up

                Where does the “starting a shootout” part come from? My understanding is that there was a party at his house where shots were fired and Aldon was stabbed. He had guns purchased legally that were illegal in CA.

                None of this is good judgment, but none of it is 2.5x worse than literally knocking your SO out.

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • andeux andeux Aug 31,2014 9:01 am || Up

                  It’s not totally clear who shot first (different stories say different things), but “shots were fired” by him and a teammate to try to get people to leave, and then people fired back and two other people were hit.

                  TINSTAAFK
                • batgirl batgirl Aug 31,2014 12:17 pm || Up
                • nevermoor nevermoor Aug 31,2014 2:48 pm || Up

                  Yep. My sports fan life sucks.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • 5Aces 5Aces Aug 31,2014 5:27 pm || Up
                  Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
                • Soaker Soaker Aug 31,2014 5:32 pm || Up

                  With Boise State having come back to the pack, that conference looks wide open.

                  Support locally made sausage!
                • doctorK doctorK Aug 31,2014 8:34 pm || Up

                  Probably more than 6 games, seeing as the fiancé is 10 weeks pregnant.

                  Players whose incidents involve a pregnant woman will face longer suspensions, the league announced Thursday. Other incidents that trigger longer suspensions are those involving weapons, choking or repeated striking.

        • Future Ed Future Ed Aug 29,2014 5:19 pm || Up

          i don’t get why the PA allows the employer to suspend people for no work related reasons

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • doctorK doctorK Aug 29,2014 8:00 pm || Up

          I still don’t understand the Rice ruling. That was total BS.

          • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 29,2014 8:17 pm || Up

            It’s pretty clearly laid out in section 5 of the CBA, which clearly states, “The National Football League doesn’t give a fuck about women getting the shit beat out of them.”

            • MikeV MikeV Aug 29,2014 9:12 pm || Up

              “Now please buy some pink shit that’s NFL branded BECAUSE CANCER AND AWARENESS AND STUFF”

              And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

              Thanks, and go As.

              • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 29,2014 9:15 pm || Up

                The NFL hates breast cancer because hurting women is a football player’s job, not some malignant cell cluster.

  72. FreeSeatUpgrade FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 29,2014 4:20 pm
    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • ptbnl Aug 29,2014 5:20 pm || Up

      Drinking Keystone Light should be a disciplinary offense on its own.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  73. Future Ed Future Ed Aug 29,2014 7:29 pm

    I bet there is still a giant baby still occupying the stadium.

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 29,2014 9:17 pm || Up

      How the fuck are rich people and businesses, who have plenty of money, allowed to “negotiate” their taxes?

      • nevermoor nevermoor Aug 30,2014 11:52 pm || Up

        In part because of leverage. In part because shit gets a lot more complicated. In part because the costs of doing so are smaller than the potential savings.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 31,2014 8:53 am || Up

          Put them in fucking jail and let them rot until they wise up and pay what they owe. This should be the law for any situation in which an entity owes taxes which it is obviously capable of paying.

          • nevermoor nevermoor Aug 31,2014 2:50 pm || Up

            That ignores #2 completely, which is legit.

            Valuing, for example, all of Comcast’s CA infrastructure isn’t the same as valuing one house.

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  74. Ben Folds' Nuts Aug 31,2014 2:50 pm

    How is it possible that we’re still underperforming our Pythag record, and are in fact even FARTHER below it than before? We aren’t scoring any fucking runs!

    • oblique Sep 1,2014 10:22 am || Up

      We also aren’t winning any fucking games.

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