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Maximum catcher!
Coco Crisp CF
John Jaso DH
Josh Donaldson 3B
Brandon Moss LF
Derek Norris C
Stephen Vogt 1B
Jed Lowrie SS
Josh Reddick RF
Eric Sogard 2B
Green n Gold: Crisp, C, CF ; Jaso, J, DH; Donaldson, J, 3B; Moss, B, LF; Norris, D, C; Vogt, S, 1B; Lowrie, J, SS; Reddick, J, RF; Sogard, E, 2B
Three catcher mojo!
Old handguns: Altuve, J, 2B; Grossman, R, RF; Carter, C, DH; Krauss, M, LF; Singleton, J, 1B; Dominguez, M, 3B; Corporan, C, C; Hernandez, E, CF; Gonzalez, M, SS
Or what Dial C said…
jebus what a fright. read that first word as geren.
Geren only went looking for gold. He never found any
He sniffed it to make sure though.
that’s so low.
i like it when they have numbers.
As if Aubrey Huff wasn’t a big enough fucking douchebag already…
Thanks, and go As.
WTF is he going out of his way to get in the middle of this for?
Because he’s a fucking douchebag.
Thanks, and go As.
On the A’s Radio Network. Can we ditch this station? They’re hurting the A’s business.
Can they just rid of those two asshats?
How about everyone currently associated with the damn station.
here is a list of people employed by the station that aren’t ass hats:
That list is longer than I thought it would be.
yeah, but he’s juking the stats by including unpaid interns.
An ass hat is an ass hat is an ass hat. See no issue with including them.
He and Johnson were teammates for about 5 minutes in Baltimore? Honestly, it’s insane.
Because A’s fans treated Johnson like shit for no legitimate reason.
Really? No legitimate reason? Coughing up leads left and right, failing to get outs, and being a gas can aren’t legitimate reasons to boo?
To boo him before he started pitching? To boo his wife at a charity event? To run down to the bullpen as he warmed up and yell at him not to blow it? To refuse to give him a chance to work through his issues even after he had nine consecutive scoreless outings early in the season? To boo him in some cases just for giving up a base hit? To boo him even for innings that went bad through no fault of his own? To not even let up after the players BEGGED them to stop? To contribute, in a very real way, to the breaking of a human being’s psyche?
Nope. Not a legitimate reason. We didn’t do that to Fuentes. We didn’t do that to Barton. We don’t do that to Punto. We didn’t do that to BOB FUCKING GEREN, who cost us far more wins than Jim Johnson ever could have.
Fans reacted to his performance on the field. As bad as anyone booing his wife is, that was a few idiots who took it way too far. So is the case of anyone running down to the bullpen to yell at him not to blow it. You can’t do anything about that.
Many more fans gave him as much of a chance as they could, were willing to repeatedly try to support him, and it didn’t work out.
And Johnson’s stretch of a few games with good performances didn’t last, did they? People DID want to give him a chance after that and he came right back home and gave up 4 runs in early May.
If you’re going to take ugly, isolated incidents as an excuse to label an entire fanbase as bad – which you’re effectively doing by saying nobody had any reason to boo Johnson – you won’t find any fanbase that’s clean.
People who pay money to attend games have the right, within certain reasonable boundaries, to express displeasure any way they see fit. Booing is one of them, whether someone thinks it’s justified or not. No, Johnson was not going out there intentionally pitching like crap, but that’s what happened. You can’t expect every single person out there to just say “Well, that’s the way it goes sometimes. Oh well.” He was a high-profile acquisition being paid a lot of money with the purpose of being their closer, and he gave up runs in more games in the Coliseum than he didn’t.
Money aside, sucks to be him for the past few months but them’s the breaks sometimes.
I was at the seattle game where his error led to a few runs. I don’t remember him being booed on his way in. But do remember that on his way out.
So was I, and while that was a play he should have made, it’s not the most routine one in the world. For someone like him, who’s counted on more for his defense at this point? It doesn’t surprise me he got booed.
Though IIRC, that came right after his game-saving-and-winning throw to 3B in Boston.
i think that’s right
Nice straw man argument. I NEVER said anything about booing him in the situations you described. I very explicitly pointed out situations where he was most frequently booed and you damn well better believe those are LEGITIMATE reasons to boo him. As for the other stuff? Well, I don’t see anywhere on here that I ever defended them. There can be illegitimate reasons to boo when while maintaining that there are legitimate ones as well.
And as matter of fact, Barton HAS been booed by the home crowd before. As as Geren (though it’s a little harder to do).
we didn’t do that to barton?
Have you not been to the coliseum this year or last or the year before that?
here
and huff volunteers to be his defender? that’s the question. why does he feel he needs to insert himself here? i want a resumé with qualifications, job history, and 3 references.
Huff needs no qualifications to stand up for a fellow human being. Unless he’s on record as having participated in something similar to this, which is unlikely since I’ve never heard of it before. Even in a place like Philly where they mercilessly boo their own players, they’re KNOWN for being shitheads, so it can’t really bother too many players. But we are not known for treating our players this way, which means that not only was Johnson being screamed at by thousands of hatred-filled angry people every time he took the mound while he watched his career fall apart, he was having this happen with the full knowledge that it had never happened to another Oakland A’s player and probably would never happen again, meaning that we didn’t just hate his performance, we hated him, the human being. And even if that’s not what we meant, it’s what the fuck we said.
i honestly think you’re reaching a little.
though if the point is to lessen malice, huff’s tweet did the opposite.
A little?
And there is a difference between saying Johnson deserved better treated and “Fuck you A’s fans I hope you get whats coming to you because you are all horrible people. We will be right back on the home of the A’s and THE place for A’s fans…” And if that isnt what he meant, its what he said.
As far as Huff goes, he was a teammate of Johnson’s from 2007-2009, so on one hand he was taking up for a friend of his.
However, he was also intentionally trying to rile up A’s fans. Mission accomplished, in that regard.
And you know what? The recent success the A’s have had has probably brought out an element of the fanbase that doesn’t normally attend games: the impatient, uncaring shithead. When expectations are raised, guess what? You’d better meet them or you’re going to hear about it from some people. Again, like I said above, there’s nothing you can do about that.
The problem I have is in even hearing some players go the route of, intentionally or not, lumping the entire fanbase in as one due to a portion of the fanbase’s actions. Good luck finding any fanbase that’s 100% on the same page in how they treat players.
And yes, Barton’s received a whole lot of vitriol as well when he’s been here. Someone has even come to the game with a sign pushing for him to be DFA’d.
This is not the first time an A’s player has ever been booed. Might be more than normal, but people need to get over it.
Well and here’s another thing; does anyone care that Aubrey Huff said this? Not really. Ass hats say stuff on Twitter and IRL all the time. I imagine if he had just tweeted it and was a former player living in Mesa we wouldnt give 2 cents of care.
The whole issue of this is he is a paid employee on the A’s flagship. so yeah-it is just a way to rile up the fans and that is what is ticking people off. If a KNBR guy spent the morning making jokes about Sexual Assualt Panda I am pretty sure he would not be employed at the end of the day.
More than anything that’s what’s annoying. If he weren’t employed by the A’s flagship, no one would give a shit that he said it. If he were on KNBR no one would either. It’s the fact that this is representative of the A’s Radio Network doing it.
You have a really warped sense of the fan base here. There’s a very small minority that fits your description and they’re usually fair weather assholes to begin with. The majority of the fan base cringed when he came him but they legitimately wanted him to succeed. There’s a difference between booing the player and booing the player’s performance. The great majority of the fan base booed his performance. I’ve seen it in the past. Fuck man, I’ve seen Mark Mulder fucking get booed in the height of his A’s career after shitting the bed early on. Then he settled in and kept us in the game and walked off to a standing ovation in the same fucking game.
And we’ve already seen how quick fans are to get fully behind Jeff Samardzija when he’s kicking ass in his first start. We’ve also seen fans gripe and grouse at Jason Hammel’s first Coliseum outing since the trade.
On the flipside, the bleacher fans? They’re the diehards and some of the best fans you’ll find anywhere. They’re also not indicative of the AVERAGE A’s fan any more than the idiots who booed Johnson’s wife or went down to the bullpen to tell him not to blow it are.
Even still, I spent a little time in the bleachers during the doubleheader against the Mariners and had to tell an idiot a couple rows in front of me that no, Ryan Cook does not suck even though he’d struggled a bit at that point (and, of course, hurt himself moments later). Guy didn’t want to hear any part of that. Cook’s just a guy whose mechanics are a bit odd and sometimes when they aren’t right his location is off.
Huff has intimate personal knowledge about what it is like to be a massively overpaid, useless player on a championship contending ball club. He’s probably thinking “well I didn’t get booed in San Francisco when I sucked,” but of course that’s because he had his career year with them and was a big part of their first title. There was goodwill built up. He also sort of faked an injury to go on a lengthy rehab assignment in 2012 so they could get him off the roster, as I recall.
In life as in baseball, Huff is a shitty defender
Heh.
ed wins
I dislike him immensely.
he has been fine when I listen (admittedly if its not baseball, I turn it quickly).
But yeah, he was bad in oakland. JJ knows it. that is just dumb.
The Game has decided that this mode IS their strategy, to antagonize the A’s fan base into paying attention. There is NO SUCH THING as a flagship possible when it’s a corporation coming from elsewhere into this market and running the show like it does in all its other countless stations around the country like the Bay is the same as all those. The proof is on the ratings sheet… perhaps Jason Barrett will learn to read the thing right-side-up someday, and see that he’s staring up at two Mariachi music outlets for the last several years.
I am fine with the pathetic, sycophantic fawning on the (vastly inferior) 2014 Giants team, I get that there is no such thing as sports radio, just dudes yakking about this player or team or that until more ads come on. That’s radio. Just stop calling yourself a flagship for the A’s.
Honestly this is their strategy and approach… Barrett sees the A’s fan base and sees a thing he can poke with an Aubrey Huff stick, or another stick that rings a bell or whatever at the mere mention of the A’s. or whatever/whoever the stick is gonna be next week. It’s just too bad that he doesn’t comprehend — by a quick glance at the ratings for oh, just the last several years — that this strategy, such as it is, ain’t working and ain’t gonna. Does it bother them that the PD remains on this track despite the wholesale lack of any discernible positive trend in the ratings? Guess not.
East Coast antagonistic bullshit radio isn’t going to fly for the overwhelmingly mellow pos-vibe A’s fanbase.
Who was that other idiot that went back to New York or always said he was from New York or whatever? I mean he was just flat out AWFUL.
So is Huff, but…
Thanks, and go As.
Brandon “I’ll Tell You Where To Stick Your FKing Bell” Tierney?
That was him!
He was so bad
Thanks, and go As.
Jason Barrett is a fool, and that’s being kind.
To be fair, it would make my day too if Jim Johnson pitches against the A’s in the playoffs somewhere.
If we’re having our druthers, I’d like to see a JJ meltdown for the Giants to complete the WS sweep.
Can’t the A’s win in 6? I want the celebration to be at the Coliseum where it belongs.
I’d prefer the sweep. One thing is for sure, if we win it all, the ’89 team joins them in the parade.
Great idea! And we trick McGwire into riding in the same car with Canseco. Maybe Jose hides under a tarp until it’s too late for Mac to bail.
I love Mac, but the dude needs to realize his own actions are what put him in whatever position he blames Jose for.
Yep, Jose didn’t lie…Mark did juice.
I think that would be appropriate.
✩✩✩✩
Looks like Aubrey…
/removes sunglasses
…is in a huff
Groan.
What a fuckhead.
When I see stuff like this from Twitter it just confirms that I don’t understand the point of Twitter.
That “Townie” character being added to The Lounge FK group was my fking last straw. I had to just leave it.
I don’t want to part of any group that would have me as a member.
enough johnson jokes!
NEVER!
Yup.
I wonder if Groucho meant it explicitly as a joke against Jews not getting into the better social clubs, or also as a meta-joke on the nature of groups, which is how we often use it now.
No matter the origin it’s a classic.
Oh wow, I never thought about it in that first sense. Very interesting.
he won’t last.
I assumed you were going to say that Harris guy.
The one fun thing is that he’ll have to read the garbage we say about him when he says or associates himself with dumbassery. But yeah. There’s inclusiveness and there’s WTF. There seems to be a lot of “Hey I talked to your barber’s brother’s sister in law’s godfather, you should join us!” going on there. Too much so.
What in the hell are you all talking about?
Fight Club. SHIT!
wac added townie to the FB lounge (place for AN currents, expats, and FKers to meet on neutral ground). town came on 3 days ago all, hi guys! and started a 70-comment thread that only got a little serious with a slumpbuster mention, and that town came back to comment just once, not very deeply.
then today mike called him out about huff and pretty soon town got an earful. not sure he’s read any of it. did comment but, basically, if you don’t like what huff says don’t follow him.
I don’t like what Huff says and I already don’t follow him. Ignoring it wouldn’t mean it was never said.
point was that if he’s on the A’s flagship, maybe it would behoove the station to not have him actively offend A’s fans. (or for the station to stop flying a false flag.)
I prefer to eat him.
Yep. But he doesn’t give a shit. Not about the fans, not about the audience. He’s all about the paycheck.
when you say “he,” i’m reading “95.7 the game.”
Everyone associated with it, sure.
For what it’s worth, which is likely very little, I took Barrett and Huff to task on Twitter (go me!).
70 comment thread…pfft…amateurs.
Can I be in this group? It sounds very fun and secret and important.
i guess you’ll have to reveal yourself to a member on FB…
(now i’m laughing because of the member club joke that i was going to reply to K but erased.)
I have to reveal my member on Facebook? What type of club is this?
One that doesn’t wear pants.
I’m still in the member club. I’m non-op.
I have a love/hate relationship with FB. I’ll add someone and then I give them 24 hours for me to get pissed off and unfollow them. I now have 1 friend, which is more than I can say IRL.
I have some spare friends if you need a few…just a warning though they’ll likely want to talk about golf.
you have 110 friends, 27 of whom i know.
[waits to get dropped]
BAM. Like a hot potato.
:)
I’m more inclined to throw a hot potato, myself.
I prefer to eat them.
dang. is it too late to say i like your owl scrubs?
“of course, chris carter, always a threat to strike out.”
—astros TV
Streaming in the office my reduce this afternoon’s productivity (though I’ve got 50,000 CPUs busy doing the heavy lifting).
sogard really doesn’t want to go down
TWKayceeS
Awwwwoh…poor Kaycee.
all i see in in play runs
Single, Reddick scored, Sogard to 2b. Or is that simply the image permanently imbedded in your brain?
its not the worst fate as a lasting image
Nope…it’s a good sign from the Future.
yay. but anti climactic after game day teases me with (s)
Talking dirty
is that sexting?
sogard surprisingly doesn’t get thrown out
twice!
Nice one Ray.
Fuck your shifts.
there are your runs Jeff.
lets not flame out in the 6th
why are they doing that De’o thing during Vogt’s ab?
I really dislike noise encouraging of all kinds. Good fans know when to make noise.
yesterday during the waive, which was sustained (except the RFB, kudos guys), I held Milo down as he relfexivly started to join
I can’t stay mad at you Vernon. But come on. save it for Weaver or some other right handed pitcher
I still love him.
He’ll always be Trogdor.
It’s that goofy smile. He seems like such a nice, gentle guy.
SadFace
That too. He won me over forever with that.
Me too.
did everyone see the kara tweet with him?
i doubt it. Some people dont even have Twitter.
well, it’s got tricky rules. like, i’m pretty sure chris townsend says you’re not supposed to use twitter unless you already agree with the comment the person’s going to write.
Townie’s an interesting cat. He should do acid with NowBodhi and I sometime. We could teach him some things.
no way. he’s a bad trip.
You’re right. I’ll be the sober guide and watch/dissect his bad trip.
No I dont think you have to agree. But if you don’t just keep it to yourself, or just dont look at it. You know, keep your place and everything is fine.
Aw, that’s cute.
isn’t it?
she’s visibly pining.
Handsome, charming, bat provides a nice breeze on a hot day…can you blame her?
She is.
Alternate caption: I am going to eat you, Kara.
Thanks, and go As.
Bocachica-wow-wow?
I’ve never heard that arrangement of the song before. I always heard bow-chicka-wow-wow
0.6 WARGL (Wins Above Replacement Guitar Lick)
You’ve never heard Hiram Bocachica play it.
But he will never be good.
No, but since he’s being not good on the Astros instead of the A’s I can just appreciate the parts of his game that are appealing, i.e. his destruction of the baseballs he actually manages to contact.
TTO and all that
good job vince, you heard your “barehand glove” thing. way to go
(but vince, tell me what the lead runner is doing first)
64 pitches through 5 for Samardzija. Atta boy.
4th start before the trading deadline too.
he’ll get one more in Houston
The Astros TV team are loving the Wham. I’m just enjoying the hitting by the Wham’s bat. Except there. That sucked.
I’m happy to see it back.
those announcers have a (probably understandably) decent attitude.
earlier, something like: it’s funny to be happy for carter’s .212 BA, but considering where it was earlier in the year…
They’re not bad. Definitely better than ours.
Their take on the Bo Porter vs. Jed Lowrie situation was horseshit though.
it was. there was another situation I was watching where they said really dumb things. Don’t remember. Soon after teh lowrie thing
You know also aren’t bad, based on my watching last night at least? The Angels’ announcers. Totally pleasant and reasonable.
I only caught a half inning or so. Were those the Angel’s or the Tigers announcers?
The Tigers.
(I know this because I was in your closet watching you watch them.)
I thought I heard someone! Next time I will leave a bottled water and some chips.
Home team is default, you have to either choose the road team or have them selected as a favorite
If you are watching on TV you don’t have the choice to choo choo choose.
was it the mlb game?
I bet they just use home team
It was, and the home team makes sense. But when I was listening for some reason I felt like it was the Tiger’s guys. Thinking back I have no reason why I thought it and it probably was the Angels.
The one thing I did notice was how quiet it was. There were whole pauses where no one said anything. I actually stopped and thought to myself “how great is this?”
I dunno, if Ray were my internal monologue, I wouldn’t be such a fan of silences
so what’s jaso’s walkup today?
Sogard on base multiple times again huh?
I think he realizes the writing’s on the wall, and it’s written by hand in fecal matter.
MOSSOME!
Moss!!!!!
That’ll do.
That’ll do.
I missed most of the first half of the season. Do we win 11-2 every day? I like this development very much.
Brawny!
he did the mash! the moss-ter mash.
Hey – it’s almost safe to bring in Joh … oh, wait.
At least his poor, sensitive soul will no longer have to hear those mean A’s fans boo him. Now he can be booed by the fans of whichever team signs him next.
I had a similar thought.
:-P
that bullpen rotation is definitely yours. i’m just saying you can’t put peña on the mound.
I think we should all share our favorite Jim Johnson memory of his time on the Athletics. Mine came earlier today.
Mine is the time in Spring Training where he helped put on a talent show for all non-vets to participate in. It was all downhill from there
The only thing I remember about spring training is that it takes place in the spring.
My favorite Johnson memory is the Rhodes/Fuentes/Johnson joke I made on Facebook about an hour ago, so we’re pretty much in the same boat.
I only use Facebook to post pictures of myself in matador outfits.
I know. I repost them on Pinterest in the “Mantyhose” group. Your pink tights got a lot of repins.
Good…I worked hard on putting that ensemble together.
I actually thought about this. It is the game against the Marlins were he had like 2+ good innings. I remember thinking after that game that it could actually be a turning point.
Grand slams (for the A’s) are so much fun
Up 9-1, this seems like a good spot for Jim John…oh, wait. Nevermind. Gonna take some time to remember that now.
Ed-ing rather than DrK-ing I see.
No, he spelled everything right.
I hatre you all
So now that’s 20 runs scored in Submargarine’s 4 starts with Oakland.
I think that’s more than his previous 17 with Chicago.
Thanks, and go As.
I’m sure he’s loving life right now.
Plenty of run support, sweet new windbreaker. Life is good.
I almost didn’t recognize him without the windbreaker.
He only takes it off to pitch.
sweat-tolerance training toward rick peterson’s old job.
I bet he wears it home too.
I bet he showers in it.
We are in a water emergency-anything to save a few gallons is ok in my book.
Surprisingly only 7 thanks to putting an 8-spot on the Gnats.
parkay? imperial?
Let Samardz go the distance here, or get Scribbles an inning?
Let Smjarszdea’ go the distance or volunteer work?
He only pitches CGs to get dates.
Makes sense to me.
Depends on the 8th. If he’s through quick, then yes. Otherwise, go with Scribs.
So is not running hard on potential infield hits up 9-1 in the 8th playing the game the right way or the wrong way?
Bo Porter’s right there. Let’s ask him.
If LJ wasn’t being a team player, I suppose the coaches could tell him, “Hey, ‘Stros before Hoes, dude.”
Snerk.
Or if he was privileging his ideas of how to play over those of his manager: Bo’s before Hoes’
Or if he thought he was better than Cespedes: Yo’s before Hoes’
I prefer to eat those.
what was that show where a “yo” was a thinly veiled racist term? NYPD blue?
The Wire
oh that sucks. i didn’t want it to be the wire.
It wasn’t like they were endorsing it or anything. Just some of the characters used it.
no i get it. it’s astute. depicting some real sides of cop attitude and even the way coded terms recede further into sub-coding.
i was just more comfortable with it being sipowicz.
Excellent use of apostrophes.
SCRIBBLES!!!
I think Tiger Woods was onto something…if you’re going to fool around you might as well do it with someone who can get you free pancakes.
Annoyed that we lost to these guys on Tuesday.
We didn’t. We lost to the ump.
This is what I thought we’d do to their bullpen that game.
That game still bugs me.
Speaking of hot potato.
Mr. Potato is looking mighty fine tonight…that matador outfit really brings out his eyes.
You should see his Thor costume. Worth every penny.
The blonde wig really pulls it all together I’m sure.
Motor Vogter
apropos.
That’s why I thought of it.
of course. just reaffirming through my new favorite website.
Well, actually, I thought of it because of the 99% Invisible podcast, which I started listening to on your recommendation. That story fascinated me because I was a huge REM fan, I remember the longbox being a big issue, and I also remember the motor voter law being a salient political issue, and yet I had no recollection of a confluence of those three things. What I do remember is U2 being the band that finally killed the longbox with Achtung Baby.
oh they did, did they?
1991.
1992.
(and i need to catch up to 99%.)
Well, Spinal Tap just needed a larger package to contain all that metal.
It’s one longer.
I know 2 people that still have that sealed and a third who may or may not depending on what he sold because he loved heroin. (I am sure its gone, Although I will say he was nice enough to give me a small cut of the sublime crap I had. I wasn’t hanging out with him and he called to ask about a couple or rare pieces, I mailed them to him and he later sent me some money for them. I didn’t get the junkie report for about 2 years when his dad called me and aske if I had heard from him.)
Maximum catcher never fails!
If we win today, we’ll be 6-3 in maximum catcher games.
6 wins and 3 super wins?
6 wins, and 3 we would have won if only we had more catchers.
Fosse had trouble getting the gear on.
Because of his erection?
Real out-loud laughter.
TWSS when she saw it!
Vogt’s season is straight up ridiculous.
Like I said earlier right now he’s freakin’ Ty Cobb.
The players on this team that we got for free because other teams thought they were worthless: Vogt, Chavez, Moss, Otero. Not bad.
Not bad is my favorite. He’s awesome.
There’s a punto there, smart guy.
Fernando Notbad?
The chihuahuas are real. They’re very real.
Roger Goodell just suspended the A’s offense for 2 games because of today.
Thanks, and go As.
John McCain announced he wants the US to invade the A’s offense because of today.
He’s introducing a bill to secure a fence around the perimeter of the field to keep the balls inside.
TWSS
Thanks, and go As.
Not entirely sure I care for that joke.
Not entirely sure I care for your judgmental post.
Are you serious or joking here? Because I have to say I agree with BFN. The joke struck me as in poor taste.
I’m being serious. Jokes in poor taste are going to happen. I don’t like it when people want other people’s posts to live up to their personal standards.
Bed, you know I love you, but if people can make jokes that push the limits of taste, then others can point out when they feel they have crossed the line. This joke bothered me (mildly, but still), and I didn’t say anything in the interest of not getting meta, but freedom to joke offensively doesn’t trump freedom to point out that a joke was offensive.
Fair enough but I find that when people start judging other folks’s posts it tends to lead to problems. It’s also fair to say that I’m being judgmental about a post I found judgmental. I freely admit I might be on shaky ground here but I think this site is at it’s best when people are comfortable to post freely even if it’s edgy or in poor taste.
We’re mostly in agreement on that, but there are certain types of offensive jokes that have a tendency to alienate a certain type of poster, and I would rather that not happen.
You make a good point like you always do, GM. I want to be clear I have no problem with Ben or anyone else on FK. I’ve been in the crossfire of some jokes that haven’t gone over well so maybe I’m being too sensitive here.
Oh hey. Speaking of… did you know “pussy” really means “pusillanimous”, meaning “showing a lack of courage”? I thought of you when I read it.
And not because I think you lack courage. It’s because, well, you know. The incident.
Ha…yeah, I knew what you meant.
lol. and i mean LOL.
In High School I was voted the person most likely to be thought of when the word pusillanimous is brought up. I’m glad that finally paid off.
Perhaps I should have been a little clearer about why I don’t care for the original joke.
1) Domestic violence isn’t funny. That’s not to say that funny jokes can’t be made which reference DV, but when the entirety of the joke is “Domestic violence! Ha! We really domestic violence’d the other team! Ha!” that’s not funny. All that does is make light of domestic violence. Again, I don’t believe there are any subjects that should be considered off-limits for humor, but if all you’re doing is bringing up a subject and then giggling, it’s not funny.
2) Making light of serious issues in that particular fashion really does have real world impacts. I know, I know, “it’s just a joke,” but it’s also more than that. It contributes to the narratives that exist in all of our heads and in our society. And those narratives contribute to actions. There are a lot of reasons that it’s uncomfortable to acknowledge that connection, some of the biggest ones being that we hate to think we might be in any way complicit in the actions of another person and that we love to think that things like DV and rape are only committed by deranged mental cases and not some normal decent person like you and me. But that, of course, is not true. And when we create such a society, we create an NFL that only suspends a domestic abuser two games.
3) The joke casts the abuser as the hero. I can’t believe no one commented on that. I mean, we are A’s fans, and in this joke, we are happy that we domestic violence’d someone.
4) I don’t know about you, but I’d rather not associate the sports team I love with a guy who beat the shit out of his wife.
I tend to agree with you, but MikeV says what MikeV wants, when MikeV wants, and MikeV doesn’t care if anyone doesn’t like what MikeV says.
At least, that’s the impression I get, and I generally like MikeV.
I like him just fine. But it’s not necessarily a great way to go through life to literally not care what anyone thinks of what you do.
What other people think of me is none of my business.
This whole thread I thought Bed made the joke and I just chalked it up to Bed being Bed.
Doesn’t change any of my thoughts but just thought I’d let everyone know I can’t read well.
I agree with you on the mechanics of the joke falling flat.
Though I think the original intent of MikeV includes an critique of the ridiculousness of the NFL’s decision, which addresses your point #2 to a certain extent.
3/4 are great points
In other words, my post doesn’t live up to your personal standards?
Not much point in having a belief system, morals, or ethics if it’s considered uncouth to talk about them or stand up for them. What am I supposed to do, just hope that people will stop doing things I believe cause real harm?
Did you miss the past hour of replies where he already said he probably was on shaky ground and that the clarifications that GM made were probably right on? Or do you just feel like beating a dead horse like with Johnson?
Yes, he acknowledged he was probably on shaky ground. He did not, however, retract the point of view that essentially argued against the idea of ever voicing an opinion when someone does something you believe is wrong.
Close enough.
asvd
Nice win, bitches.
nice. now back to first contact.
“heeah!”
:)
Current top headline on SFGate:
I want to write headlines for a living.
You can practice here until you’re ready to go pro.
All local sportswriters had to burn through their stock of Johnson puns today. No more saving a few for the rest of the season.
An A’s victory AND the end of our Jim Johnson nightmare? Great day!
The Five Guys in Twin Falls Idaho is playing Donovan music.
I guess the 60s have finally reached Idaho.
Yes, but they think Donovan is a better lyricist than Dylan.
A miserable redneck town, that. But since you’re there, don’t miss the Evel Knievel monument.
That is hilarious, we may just stop by tomorrow am on the way out of town.
My friend’s mom dated Evil Knievel. But she knew him as “Bob Knievel.”
Also, if you’re not driving the blue highways (probably not with kids in the car), it was a particularly good day to arrive in Idaho.
Feels yucky rooting for the Tigers.
hence all the coops gold label.
So Huff favorited this:
He might be currently looking up what “debacle” means.
It has three syllables, it sounds French, must be a compliment!
a 2 out bunt attempt by Aybar with runners at first and third.
Popped up for an out. Can’t take the Scioscia out of the angels
1-0 det after 4
You’re gonna want more than one, Tiggers.
I wish Scherzer would remember how to strike people out
I hope he never remembers how, myself.
He did end up with 11 Ks in 7 innings last night, FWIW. There was just a stretch of a couple of hitters where he couldn’t quite miss their bats and the Angels got all of their runs. On two of their key hits he broke their bats.
gaddammit tigers.
They have one job.
Not a very good shutdown inning by Richards.
better.
we are in for a long roller coaster
Austin Jackson made a great catch to rod Kohls Calhoon of a double. Perfectly timed leap.
the detroit tv team has been muffled on my computer, as soon as he made the catch, a crystal clear “woah AJ!” it was clearly some tech guy. the sound quality and volume was better and higher than the announcers.
it was weird.
5-3 tigers top 8
that wasn’t even catch and release, trout.
Joba’s gone full hillbilly.
have to bring in the lefty for hamilton, right?
Tigers add on. The Orioles are doing OK on this West Coast road trip, which certainly had the potential to be disastrous (A’s, Angels, Mariners). Instead, they’re 4-3 thus far.
Raul Ibanez thinks this is an embarrassing throw.
not good
this is bad managing.
so stupid.
good
lol Pujols’s slide
OK. Trout is up sixth in the 9th. Even Joe nathan can handle getting three outs, right?
Is it not going to be Soria?
It should be Soria. It will be Nathan.
proven closer ™
prevails!
THREE!!! Three ah ha ha…
It’s nice to know our next 6 are against the Rangers & Astros and the Angels next 6 are against the Tiggers and Birdies.
Feels like a month since we picked up a full game on those jerks.
In a perfect world, we’d be 9 up by the end of the month. I’m greedy like that. But sadly, we’d be lucky to maintain this 3 game lead.
Got banned from HH for posting the same image there.
All for helping them learn how to count? Sheesh.
You know how Southern Californians hate education. They freaked out and thought he was advocating increased spending on public schools.
3 ahead, only team in division with a W streak, and only team over .600.
but i believe ed.
Maximum catcher again!
Hopefully all three will a single game at Catcher in this series. 100 degree whether in full on gear? Would be nice to give them all that break. Especially when they’re interchangeable at DH and one can play 1B or outfield.
I always wanted a detachable johnson