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The Grill until the next one 350

The last grill dropped off the recent posts lists so I’m rekindling it.

George Harrison Memorial Tree killed by beetles.

Really, I can’t top that. Unless it’s with a Venn Piegram.

That’s all I got. Grill joyously until the next one.

"Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."

350 thoughts on “The Grill until the next one

  1. AV Jul 22,2014 9:20 am

    you don’t want to piss off tree-killing beetles? don’t use papyrus allcaps!! EVER.

    it’s really that simple.

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  2. FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 22,2014 10:08 am
    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • colin Jul 22,2014 10:43 am || Up

      Colin’s Boston area record store roundup:
      * Newbury Comics is kind of crappy — essentially no used vinyl and their prices for new vinyl are ridiculous. I used to hit up the Fresh Pond (Cambridge) location for discount cds, but that one closed and the Harvard Square location is pretty much worthless unless you are a 17 year old stoner who wants to buy blacklight posters. Lots of other locations that I haven’t visited.
      * Weirdo Records (Central Square Cambridge) is a fantastic shop, deeply focused on experimental music, psych, etc. This place really knows their stuff, which means that you probably won’t find any absurd bargains, but prices are generally good and you will finds things here that you can’t find anywhere else.
      * In Your Ear (Harvard Square) can be a fun place to do some digging. But you really have to dig, because they have a whole ton of crap. They have locations in Boston and Providence too, but I haven’t visited those.
      * Deep Thoughts (Jamaica Plain) — I just visited once, on Record Store Day this year, but I want to go back. Small, nicely curated shop focused on punk, post-punk, experimental, etc. They also have some solid cheapo LPs and are involved with putting out some local music (possibly just bands affiliated with store owners/employees).
      * Mystery Train Records (Gloucester) — Who knew that Gloucester had an astonishingly good record store? This is pretty much my ideal place to shop, all the way down to the stereotypical record store staff arguing about old sci-fi movies up by the register and playing garage rock on the house stereo. Tons of used LPs covering all genres. In my two trips, I’ve found New Order, Suburban Lawns, Slovenly, etc.

      Some Harvard Square shops that I haven’t visited: Planet Records (looks uninspiring), Stereo Jack’s (ditto), Armageddon Shop (metal)

      • andeux Jul 22,2014 11:31 am || Up

        There used to be a Mystery Train in Harvard Square as well. Also Second Coming records (had to look this one up to remember the name), which had a huge selection of bootlegs, back when paying good money for some nth generation recording crappily copied to vinyl or cassette was still something that people did.

        TINSTAAFK
        • colin Jul 22,2014 11:40 am || Up

          Harvard Square was the original Mystery Train. At one point they expanded all the way to five stores, but eventually shrunk back down to just the Gloucester location. I think that is one of the reason why they have such good stock.

  3. FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 22,2014 10:13 am

    Englishmajor, I’m sure you had a wonderful trip back to your homeland, but if you’d stayed just a few days longer you could have enjoyed the annual mayfly hatch!

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Englishmajor Jul 23,2014 5:30 pm || Up

      I know! I’m not sure if mayflys in aggregate stink, like box elder bugs do. I bet they do.

  4. MikeV Jul 22,2014 10:21 am

    Chase Headley -> Yankees

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

    • nevermoor Jul 22,2014 10:30 am || Up

      Every player they take is one fewer that the Angels can have.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • Glorious Mundy Jul 22,2014 10:38 am || Up

      Boy did the Padres wait too long to cash in on him.

    • 5Aces Jul 22,2014 10:45 am || Up

      Yangervis Solarte going to the Padres. Seems like they have picked up a couple of MIs recently. We like to trade with them sometimes too I think.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
      • Ben Folds' Nuts Jul 22,2014 11:06 am || Up

        We couldn’t have traded them something better than Yangervis for Headley? Really?

        • MikeV Jul 22,2014 11:13 am || Up

          To play him where?

          And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

          Thanks, and go As.

          • Glorious Mundy Jul 22,2014 11:14 am || Up

            2011

          • Ben Folds' Nuts Jul 22,2014 11:20 am || Up

            I forgot that he wasn’t a second baseman. I thought he was a second baseman for some reason. And you know what, we still should have gotten him and put him at second base I AM SO TIRED OF NICK PUNTO

            • MikeV Jul 22,2014 12:09 pm || Up

              Punto is just fine playing second base.

              Not the position. The base.

              And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

              Thanks, and go As.

    • Bed Jul 22,2014 2:38 pm || Up

      That new stadium the Padres built sure has lead to a lot of success.

      But seriously, folks...
  5. doctorK Jul 22,2014 10:58 am
  6. Glorious Mundy Jul 22,2014 11:02 am

    Flipped on the ol’ A’s Flagship this morning to find Huffie and Townie recounting hilarious stories about the times when they or their friends (or in Huff’s case him and his friend together!) had sex with fat women and were then ashamed of it. In Huff’s story, the bed broke, and in Townie’s, a sink broke. Huff was disgusted by the whole thing, but it helped him hit he says!

    I’m not sure whether I am more offended by the misogyny or the lack of originality in thinking that “slump buster” stories are funny in 2014. All I know is that I can’t leave the radio on the station anymore after listening to a game because I don’t want my kids to accidentally hear this crap when I’m driving them to school. Next time one of you runs into Townie at the Coliseum, tell him he’s an embarrassment.

    • Ben Folds' Nuts Jul 22,2014 11:09 am || Up

      I had sex with a fat woman once. No furniture, appliances, or plumbing fixtures were broken. We had a good time, got breakfast in the morning, and stayed friends for awhile afterwards until she moved away.

      HA! HA!

      • Jennifer Jul 22,2014 2:12 pm || Up

        I’d be more ashamed of having sex with Aubrey Huff.

        • Bed Jul 22,2014 2:16 pm || Up

          I know I feel shame about it to this day…Huff is a lousy lay.

          But seriously, folks...
          • Jennifer Jul 22,2014 2:19 pm || Up

            At least you felt something. (throws wrench in to nearest closet)

            • Bed Jul 22,2014 2:22 pm || Up

              Yeah that inch and half that Huff packs doesn’t tend to make much of an impact. You forget about it pretty quickly much like his playing career.

              But seriously, folks...
        • Ben Folds' Nuts Jul 22,2014 2:21 pm || Up

          Personally, I’d feel very confused, since I’m not–so far as I know–sexually attracted to men.

          • Bed Jul 22,2014 2:28 pm || Up

            Well, to be honest I’m really only attracted to myself.

            But seriously, folks...
          • Jennifer Jul 22,2014 2:56 pm || Up

            Please. Everyone is attracted to the manly specimen that is Aubrey Huff. Just let it happen.

            • Bed Jul 22,2014 3:01 pm || Up

              When you see the name Aubrey you think manly specimen.

              But seriously, folks...
            • Ben Folds' Nuts Jul 22,2014 7:18 pm || Up

              You misspelled Daniel Craig as “Aubrey Huff.”

    • doctorK Jul 22,2014 11:19 am || Up

      CT is in the FB lounge as of yesterday. Some ball-busting may be forth-coming.

      • AV Jul 22,2014 11:34 am || Up

        no he’s not. he wrote pretending to hang out and disappeared as 74 comments went up. it’s his job. provoke, bail. provoke, bail.

        don’t get me wrong. i love sports talk radio. it always reminds me to see what they’re playing on KALX…

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • Jennifer Jul 22,2014 2:21 pm || Up

          I had to unfollow the lounge thing there. Wasn’t my bag.

          • dmoas Jul 22,2014 2:25 pm || Up

            It suddenly got a ton of new faces I’ve never seen or heard of and that’s gotten a little weird.

      • Ben Folds' Nuts Jul 22,2014 2:24 pm || Up

        What is the FB lounge?

        • AV Jul 22,2014 2:26 pm || Up

          AN lounge expats + a few FK, on hidden FB group.

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
          • Bed Jul 22,2014 2:30 pm || Up

            Hmm…I thought Facebook was solely created to sell Amway products.

            But seriously, folks...
    • James V. Jul 22,2014 11:19 am || Up

      FK sports talk radio.

      • Glorious Mundy Jul 22,2014 11:21 am || Up

        Here’s the thing though, it’s not all like that. You won’t hear that kind of garbage on KNBR.

        • MikeV Jul 22,2014 12:09 pm || Up

          Well not anymore since Damon Bruce is on 957 now

          And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

          Thanks, and go As.

    • oblique Jul 22,2014 11:25 am || Up

      That show is consistently idiotic and misogynistic. Given that they canceled a show that was (IMO) actually fun (if not necessarily funny) and at times even thoughtful to put that crap on, it shows what their priorities are. And given that they’re a business, it’s depressing to think about their motivations for making a decision like that, i.e., that most people are hateful, idiotic, bigoted fools who like to have their insecurities validated by someone with a megaphone.

      • batgirl Jul 22,2014 12:07 pm || Up

        I was a bit disappointed to see that Slusser consents to be a guest on Damon Bruce’s show. I think she should just flat out refuse.

        • Ben Folds' Nuts Jul 22,2014 2:03 pm || Up

          Yeah, doesn’t she know it’s not her sandbox?

          • Bed Jul 22,2014 2:45 pm || Up

            I’ve spent more time in sand traps.

            But seriously, folks...
    • Bed Jul 22,2014 2:18 pm || Up

      I remember listening to Townsend a couple of times when the original lounge started on AN. I thought he was a twit. I’m glad we got the lounge out of it though.

      But seriously, folks...
      • Ben Folds' Nuts Jul 22,2014 2:22 pm || Up

        I feel like I remember AN loving him back in the day.

        • Ben Folds' Nuts Jul 22,2014 2:23 pm || Up

          I remember MikeV specifically posting something in all caps about how he would drive his truck to AT&T and tailgate at the statue outside if the A’s made the postseason and the Giants didn’t in 2010, after CT mused aloud about the possibility.

          • MikeV Jul 22,2014 2:42 pm || Up

            Did I say that?

            I mean it sounds like something I would have said.

            And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

            Thanks, and go As.

            • Bed Jul 22,2014 2:54 pm || Up

              I hope people don’t start looking back at things I said in 2010. I’ll just say this upfront I was drunk that entire year.

              But seriously, folks...
        • Jennifer Jul 22,2014 2:25 pm || Up

          There were some lovers. I don’t think I’ve ever heard him in my life.

          Wait. Last year I was riding in Kyli’s car to a bar to watch the game and I think his show was on. Can’t be 100% though.

        • Bed Jul 22,2014 2:25 pm || Up

          He was popular with many but he wasn’t my cup of tea. To be fair I dislike almost all talk radio.

          But seriously, folks...
        • Glorious Mundy Jul 22,2014 2:27 pm || Up

          I think people were just so enthused about having a postgame call-in show after the empty post-Buan years that they were willing to overlook the fact that he was terrible. He also talked a good game about building a community of A’s fans, who had been treated badly for too long, etc. A whole bunch of crap that he immediately abandoned once he had gained enough juice to get a gig that didn’t require him to pretend to be interested in the A’s.

        • AV Jul 22,2014 2:33 pm || Up

          he came on strong pushing the grandeur of the A’s flagship on FM radio, and people responded positively to that with as much fervor as they responded negatively with to whoever used to take calls on the air before him. but then the flagship slowly catered more and more to SF listeners, scheduling shift happened, he was left seemingly holding the bag, and that made him look like (or revealed him as) just another mouth on the radio whose job is to say something, anything, to harvest your earstrokes.

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
          • Bed Jul 22,2014 2:36 pm || Up

            I doubt it’s a fun job. Much of sports media know seems to be about being pissed off about something and having to pretend to be pissed off all the time has to get old.

            But seriously, folks...
            • AV Jul 22,2014 2:38 pm || Up

              oh, i don’t know… being the troll AND the banhammer sounds kinda fun for a day or two.

              *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
              • Bed Jul 22,2014 2:43 pm || Up

                By day three however I’d probably be looking for another line of work.

                But seriously, folks...
                • Bed Jul 22,2014 3:05 pm || Up

                  By day four I’d probably be back on the bottle.

                  But seriously, folks...
                • Bed Jul 22,2014 3:15 pm || Up

                  By day five I’ll likely be living on the streets.

                  But seriously, folks...
                • Bed Jul 22,2014 3:22 pm || Up

                  By day six I’ll be naked and alone sleeping in a cardboard box by a Wendy’s.

                  But seriously, folks...
                • Bed Jul 22,2014 3:26 pm || Up

                  By day seven I’ll start to believe I’m Wendy and will start to tell anybody who walks by my cardboard house.

                  But seriously, folks...
                • 5Aces Jul 22,2014 3:46 pm || Up

                  A whole week and you never ended up in a van down by the river? Impressive.

                  Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
          • Glorious Mundy Jul 22,2014 2:46 pm || Up

            I appreciate your more charitable narrative.

  7. dmoas Jul 22,2014 12:21 pm
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 22,2014 12:24 pm || Up

      Yeah, it was always in everyone’s best interests to get this done. Now comes the race to claim credit; cue press statements in 3…2…1…

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • dmoas Jul 22,2014 12:26 pm || Up

        Heh. Round 2 will be better. So many players, so many games to be played. And no one will know who’s genuinely serious or not. Who will stay, who will go.

      • andeux Jul 22,2014 1:09 pm || Up

        So all the idle threats were idle, and all the pointless freaking out was pointless. What a surprise.

        TINSTAAFK
        • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 22,2014 1:23 pm || Up

          Well, to the extent this illustrated the fundamentally flawed structure of the JPA there may be some benefit down the road. And those who found it important to thwart political rivals from claiming immediate victory probably benefitted. But yeah, what you said.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • dmoas Jul 22,2014 2:24 pm || Up

          I wouldn’t call it idle or pointless at all. There’s hyperbole in the threats, sure. But that doesn’t mean the threats weren’t real. Just unrealized. And as to the freaking out, not sure I’d agree that it wasn’t warrantless either, at least to an extent. A big part of the issue was a complete and utter lack of communication and that chaotic disorganization involved, hell still involved. And while this may be too small of a case to worry about specifically, it absolutely raises some major concerns that still need to be faced otherwise it’s going to continually repeat itself.

          • Bed Jul 22,2014 2:37 pm || Up

            I get called pointless all the time. It’s hard to argue with the assessment.

            But seriously, folks...
            • PDXAthleticsfan Jul 22,2014 2:39 pm || Up

              What’s your sign?

              A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
              • Bed Jul 22,2014 2:42 pm || Up

                I don’t know…probably a stop sign would be my guess. I was born in October.

                But seriously, folks...
                • Bed Jul 22,2014 3:19 pm || Up

                  I was born in October in a van down by the river. Three wise asses came by and said I was the chosen one and then they said “psych” which was odd because this was the 70’s and that term hadn’t been used yet.

                  But seriously, folks...
                • 5Aces Jul 22,2014 3:47 pm || Up

                  I hadnt read this when I replied above. Interesting.

                  Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
                • Bed Jul 22,2014 4:16 pm || Up

                  By day fifteen I’ll likely end up back where I started. Hopefully the van is still there.

                  But seriously, folks...
      • Englishmajor Jul 23,2014 5:34 pm || Up

        Rebecca jumped in between the dots separating 3 and 2.

    • Ben Folds' Nuts Jul 22,2014 2:04 pm || Up

      I’ll believe it when the lease is signed and in full effect.

  8. Jennifer Jul 22,2014 2:00 pm

    It’s so hot.

    • Bed Jul 22,2014 2:19 pm || Up

      My third nipple is pretty hot…thanks for noticing.

      But seriously, folks...
  9. Bed Jul 22,2014 2:49 pm

    You ever have a friend tell you to watch a show that they love and then you watch it and it’s the worst thing you’ve ever seen?

    But seriously, folks...
    • PDXAthleticsfan Jul 22,2014 3:01 pm || Up

      Yep. Most recently Veep, which I’ve already stated somewhere else on FK that I find it completely unfunny, or at least the first episode was. Also, anything Mrs. PDX’s aunt ever watches.

      A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
      • Bed Jul 22,2014 3:05 pm || Up

        It was Ray Donovan for us. A friend said I had to watch it and my wife and I gave it a try. Some of the worst acting I’ve ever seen and I’ve seen several Pauly Shore movies. My wife and I have been cracking each other up for days saying some of the awful dialogue from the show with the same terrible Boston accents that the actors use. At least we’ve gotten some laughs out of it.

        But seriously, folks...
        • nevermoor Jul 22,2014 3:08 pm || Up

          Scandal.

          OMFG. She’s supposed to be a bad-ass crisis resolver, but everything she touches turns to shit. And the fking cadence everyone uses to deliver lines drives me crazy. And the plots are 24-level stupid/implausible.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • Bed Jul 22,2014 3:11 pm || Up

            That seems to be one of those shows people either love or hate. I haven’t seen it but I think my wife watched a few episodes.

            But seriously, folks...
          • AV Jul 22,2014 4:02 pm || Up

            and it gets worse.

            the last season i watched basically moved along a 13-year-old’s understanding that if you are fairly sure you are indignantly right about something, you don’t have to talk about it or discuss with anybody to see if there’s another point of view, just bite tongue, clench jaw, and roll eyes about how stupid the other person is, until they don’t get your body language and force you to blow up, which you do by over enunciating through your pout, and stomp out of the room looking indignant right and butthurt.

            *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
            • Bed Jul 22,2014 4:25 pm || Up

              “And It Gets Worse” is going to be the title of my autobiography.

              But seriously, folks...
    • doctorK Jul 22,2014 3:13 pm || Up

      This pretty much sums up my experiences with Adam Sandler movies.

      • Bed Jul 22,2014 3:14 pm || Up

        I’ll always love Happy Gilmore but I haven’t even bothered to watch his last several movies.

        But seriously, folks...
        • Future Ed Jul 22,2014 3:19 pm || Up

          punch drunk love was good. not great.

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • Glorious Mundy Jul 22,2014 3:20 pm || Up

            The Wedding Singer is good.

            • Bed Jul 22,2014 3:21 pm || Up

              That’s my second favorite Sandler movie although it may have something to do with the fact that I think Drew Barrymore is hot.

              But seriously, folks...
          • Bed Jul 22,2014 3:20 pm || Up

            It’s by far my least favorite Paul Thomas Anderson movie. I think of it as an interesting failure. I give Sandler props for trying it though.

            But seriously, folks...
    • Ben Folds' Nuts Jul 22,2014 7:21 pm || Up

      Seems like every TV show that’s ever come highly recommended other than like Arrested Development or The Wire.

  10. Bed Jul 22,2014 2:52 pm

    I think every pre-season NFL power poll I’ve read has the Raiders at #32. No where to go but I up I guess. While I don’t think they’ll be good I’d be surprised if they were the worst team in the league this year.

    But seriously, folks...
    • MikeV Jul 22,2014 2:53 pm || Up

      They won’t be the worst team in the league, but drawing the NFC West this year is going to absolutely kill their record.

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

      • Bed Jul 22,2014 2:59 pm || Up

        You just never know with football. Every year a few teams rise up and a few teams fall apart. On paper you’d think the Raiders would go 0-4 or 1-3 against the NFC West but a few injuries or regression by certain players and strange things could happen.

        I think 6 wins is the high end for the Raiders. I’m just hoping the games are more fun to watch this year.

        But seriously, folks...
        • mikeA Jul 22,2014 3:45 pm || Up

          Raiders will go 1-15, the win will be 56-3 vs. the 49ers.

          • Bed Jul 22,2014 4:02 pm || Up

            If the Raiders go 1-15 I’m going to be tons of fun to be around this winter.

            But seriously, folks...
  11. Bed Jul 22,2014 3:16 pm

    The post until the next post.

    But seriously, folks...
  12. Future Ed Jul 22,2014 3:20 pm

    Melvin has been kidnapped!!

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Bed Jul 22,2014 3:24 pm || Up

      That wouldn’t have happened if he had a manly name like Aubrey.

      But seriously, folks...
    • Future Ed Jul 22,2014 3:31 pm || Up

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • ptbnl Jul 22,2014 3:32 pm || Up

        Only playing one catcher? What madness is this?

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
        • nevermoor Jul 22,2014 3:36 pm || Up

          1.5

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • Future Ed Jul 22,2014 3:36 pm || Up

          that’s why I think it isn’t melvin.

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
  13. ptbnl Jul 22,2014 3:30 pm

    Cubs DFA Darwin Barney … can’t be worse than what the A’s are trotting out at 2nd can he?

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • Future Ed Jul 22,2014 3:31 pm || Up

      I don’t think so.

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • lenscrafters Jul 22,2014 3:38 pm || Up

      Great defense and can hit lefties decently. Would be a welcome Punto replacement.

    • MikeV Jul 22,2014 3:40 pm || Up

      He’s been a black hole of suck on offense this year just like the rest of our plethora of 2B.

      I’d take him just to not have to see Sogard fail anymore.

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

      • 5Aces Jul 22,2014 3:52 pm || Up

        If I read it right I think his OPS is the exact same or almost the exact same as Punto.

        Part of me wants him just to be different, but thats what I said about G last year and I regretted that after like 2 games.

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
        • Dial C for Concupiscence Jul 22,2014 3:55 pm || Up

          He’s got a good name at least

          • Englishmajor Jul 23,2014 5:37 pm || Up

            I think the Giants will sign him, if they can get a deal on purple dinosaur heads or stuffed Galapagos finches.

        • andeux Jul 22,2014 3:56 pm || Up

          It looks like he’s the player . was supposed to be (bad bat, good glove), as opposed to the player . actually turned out to be (bad bat, mediocre glove). But “. with slightly better defense” is not really the big upgrade we’re all hoping for at 2B.

          TINSTAAFK
          • lenscrafters Jul 22,2014 4:01 pm || Up

            It would really benefit the A’s to make sure Punto’s 3 million option for next year doesn’t vest. I’ll take anyone who’s even only slightly better than him to make sure that doesn’t happen.

            • Glorious Mundy Jul 22,2014 4:10 pm || Up

              How close is he?

              • lenscrafters Jul 22,2014 4:21 pm || Up

                I believe it’s based on time spent on DL and not PAs. I’d rather root for his DFA than an injury.

        • ptbnl Jul 22,2014 3:57 pm || Up

          Platoon him with Callaspo and DFA Sogard and Punto.

          If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • Ben Folds' Nuts Jul 22,2014 7:24 pm || Up

        Punto is much more irritating to me, because we’ve actually seen him a lot. Sogard has under 200 PAs; and never mind, so does Punto, now that I check. Fuck, man, it just SEEMS like he’s out there every day, you know?

  14. Future Ed Jul 22,2014 3:36 pm

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Glorious Mundy Jul 22,2014 3:41 pm || Up

      Whoa

    • Ben Folds' Nuts Jul 22,2014 7:25 pm || Up

      I’m sure this gets spun into the narrative of how terrible the Coliseum is.

      • Dial C for Concupiscence Jul 23,2014 11:48 am || Up

        Proper wariness of lightening strikes are why they built that impenetrable layer of pompousness into ATandT park in the first place

  15. Jennifer Jul 22,2014 3:40 pm

    When do we finally get rid of FSU?

    • Future Ed Jul 22,2014 3:41 pm || Up

      when oblique comes off the dl

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • oblique Jul 22,2014 5:28 pm || Up

        This stint is a sham. I’m thinking about filing a grievance.

    • Bed Jul 22,2014 4:09 pm || Up

      I’m just wondering when I’m going to get rid of that Aubrey smell. It smells like a combination of Old Spice and failure.

      But seriously, folks...
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 22,2014 5:30 pm || Up

      Pftt. Like you’ll ever be rid of me.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  16. Bed Jul 22,2014 4:14 pm

    Well, my life long dream has finally come true. Hollywood is making a Manimal movie.

    But seriously, folks...
    • Glorious Mundy Jul 22,2014 4:17 pm || Up

      Your lifelong dream was to run out onto the field during a baseball game, and you did it last year, remember?

      • Bed Jul 22,2014 4:20 pm || Up

        Sadly, no I don’t remember. This life of sex, drugs, and Rock N’ Roll has taken it’s toll on me. Did I at least take my shirt off so my third nipple could get some love?

        But seriously, folks...
  17. Bed Jul 22,2014 4:17 pm

    Would you rather go on a date with Courtney Love or a Mako shark?

    But seriously, folks...
  18. AV Jul 22,2014 4:18 pm

    what is the very best song… anybody’s ever told you never to play in their presence again?

    (i have two.)

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • Bed Jul 22,2014 4:21 pm || Up

      I have no answer for this one. Mainly due to the fact that I never listen to what other people are saying. What are your two songs?

      But seriously, folks...
      • AV Jul 22,2014 4:39 pm || Up

        oh you don’t have to listen to their misguided request. just be shocked as hell they made it in the first place.

        tell it like it is, aaron neville. was trying to cheer up depressed girlfriend who was pissed at me because i had just bought my first computer ever and had neglected to pay attention to her for like 10 minutes in a row, backfired.

        loomer, my bloody valentine. different girlfriend, 2am-ish, gets up to go to bathroom, i put on a sweet romantic record, by the time she gets back she’s like, “what IS this shit? turn it off, it’s SOO loud! NEVER play that near me A-GAIN!” a) she was supposed to be somewhat alternative and cool, and that record had been out for 15 years. and b) i was trying to keep it down for the roommates and the volume was below 1.

        the second one did surprise me because she wasn’t a close-minded total fucking bitch at all. the first one…

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • Bed Jul 22,2014 4:45 pm || Up

          I really can’t think of anyone who hated some music I was playing that much. I’ve dated women who had very different musical tastes than I do but they never gave me too much of a hard time for all the Phil Collins.

          But seriously, folks...
          • Dial C for Concupiscence Jul 23,2014 11:56 am || Up

            Well the “Phil 4 Life” forehead tattoo should be enough to set expectations for what they’re getting into

            • andeux Jul 23,2014 12:05 pm || Up

              It also helped that they were all legally deaf.

              TINSTAAFK
              • Bed Jul 23,2014 4:38 pm || Up

                Yep, it’s the main thing I look for in a woman.

                But seriously, folks...
    • Future Ed Jul 22,2014 7:48 pm || Up

      slf doesn’t like Leonard Cohen or any sixties paisley punk. Calls it hippie music

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • AV Jul 22,2014 7:51 pm || Up

        *canadian* hippie music.

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • Ben Folds' Nuts Jul 22,2014 7:54 pm || Up

        What about later-career Leonard Cohen?

      • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 23,2014 4:35 pm || Up

        She must not like songwriting; Leonard Cohen is inner-circle pantheon, right up with Dylan. Not sure anyone else even enters the conversation.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • Bed Jul 23,2014 4:41 pm || Up

          I would rather not listen to music than listen to Cohen and Dylan “sing”. Yes, I’m awful and I have no taste.

          But seriously, folks...
        • AV Jul 23,2014 5:11 pm || Up

          quick survey of the surveys says:

          it’s ok to drop cohen down a few spots or even ignore him if you mention lou reed, bruce, or neil young. the de-synergists say john > paul. outsiders talk about townes van zandt and brian wilson. paul simon is the ubiquitous #2 (explaining his location when he wrote his most famous song).

          i want to say elvis costello. it’s fun to say.

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
          • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 23,2014 5:16 pm || Up

            Lou Reed is the only other one I considered naming as inner circle. Neil Young, Tom Waits and Lennon and/or McCarthy next tier. And I was thinking (though didn’t say) the rock genre, so no Townes or Hank Sr.

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
            • AV Jul 23,2014 5:26 pm || Up

              i don’t know about this genre distinction. kinda splits dylan into 3 different songwriters, and leaves cohen more pop/folk than rock.

              and now i’m thinking about chuck berry’s slowly unfolding storytelling.

              *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
            • andeux Jul 23,2014 5:34 pm || Up

              Fagen/Becker are up there somewhere (even if some here refuse to acknowledge their genius).

              TINSTAAFK
              • ptbnl Jul 23,2014 5:37 pm || Up

                I think you’re confusing FSU’s circles with Dante’s.

                If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
                • Soaker Jul 23,2014 5:39 pm || Up

                  Yeah, I went through about five seconds worth of What.The.Fuck.andeux. on that one.

                  What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
            • Bed Jul 23,2014 5:57 pm || Up

              FSU I think we agree on music about as much as we do on the Raiders. I would rather be deaf than listen to a Lou Reed record.

              But seriously, folks...
              • AV Jul 23,2014 8:03 pm || Up

                print metal machine music.

                *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • Bed Jul 23,2014 8:05 pm || Up

                  It should be noted anytime I talk about music that I love Coldplay.

                  But seriously, folks...
                • Future Ed Jul 24,2014 10:46 am || Up

                  HA!

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
              • colin Jul 23,2014 8:08 pm || Up

              • Soaker Jul 23,2014 8:11 pm || Up

                I ordered tickets for Phish in Las Vegas over Halloween weekend today, Bed. The last time they played Vegas on Halloween they played “Loaded”. The entire album. You’re welcome to join me.

                What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
                • Bed Jul 23,2014 8:13 pm || Up

                  I don’t think I’ve ever heard a Phish song. I hope you enjoy the show.

                  But seriously, folks...
                • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 23,2014 10:08 pm || Up

                  Phish does a thing at their Halloween shows where they do a “costume set,” with the second set a top-to-bottom cover of some other band’s album. I heard a tape of the show which covered the Talking Heads’ Remain In Light album, it was smoking hot.

                  "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
                • Bed Jul 23,2014 10:10 pm || Up

                  It’s just one of those bands I never really knew much about. I know their name but that’s about it.

                  But seriously, folks...
                • Ben Folds' Nuts Jul 24,2014 12:37 am || Up
                • PDXAthleticsfan Jul 23,2014 10:31 pm || Up

                  That’s my personal version of Heaven (Is a Place) meets Hell.

                  A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
                • sslinger Jul 25,2014 10:08 pm || Up

                  That one is great, as is Waiting for Columbus.

                • Soaker Dec 5,2014 5:30 pm || Up

                  My Las Vegas trip for that fell through. I heard something from the Halloween second set yesterday and found a video; looks like a lot of fun.

                  What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
            • Ben Folds' Nuts Jul 24,2014 12:36 am || Up

              I’ll accept Waits. Not Lennon, McCartney, or Lennon/McCartney. Again, as with Young and Reed, some very high highs, but a lot of lows, as well. Hank Sr. is important in terms of his influence, but I don’t feel like his lyric writing stacks up in any way to the greats or even the goods of pop music.

          • Ben Folds' Nuts Jul 24,2014 12:34 am || Up

            it’s ok to drop cohen down a few spots or even ignore him if you mention lou reed, bruce, or neil young.

            Ugh, no way. Reed and Young have some very high highs, but so much of their lyric writing is pretty bad, for very different reasons. Reed was prone to Jim Morrison-style bullshit fake poetry and Young was and remains prone to way-too-on-the-nose political protest music. I mean, “Southern Man” has to be recognized for what it represented at the time, and the rawness of the emotion in the recording is very powerful, but lyrically, it is just not special at all, and a lot of his writing is like that.

            Springsteen…Nebraska’s amazing. Other than that, his best work is that album of Seeger covers he did.

        • Ben Folds' Nuts Jul 24,2014 12:30 am || Up

          Yeah, they’re great poets and great songwriters, but early- and mid-career Dylan is pretty tough on the ol’ ears, vocally. Even though I like some of the music in spite of that, I don’t enjoy his singing until his 1980s work. Cohen, on the other hand, just sounded very thin in his 1960s and early 1970s work. I don’t know if it was the production or just his actual voice, but I don’t dig his vocals in his early period. The earliest Cohen album that I can get super into and enjoy listening to is Death of a Ladies Man, from 1977. And for my money, his three best records are Various Positions, I’m Your Man, and The Future.

        • Ben Folds' Nuts Jul 24,2014 12:31 am || Up

          Also, John Darnielle absolutely HAS to be in the same conversation as Cohen and Dylan. I might even put him in ahead of Dylan but behind Cohen.

        • Future Ed Jul 24,2014 10:44 am || Up

          slow stuff makes her blood boil. Except for stuff like the this.

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
  19. Bed Jul 22,2014 4:29 pm

    I like to think I put the B-E-D in ignorant.

    But seriously, folks...
  20. Bed Jul 22,2014 4:30 pm

    The main difference between a lounge and a grill seems to be the lack of posts about Ed Asner in grills.

    But seriously, folks...
  21. Bed Jul 22,2014 4:34 pm

    I see Reddick is back…finally, we’ll have a sub .230 hitter back in the lineup.

    But seriously, folks...
    • colin Jul 22,2014 7:56 pm || Up

      Let me introduce you to Nick Punto and Eric Sogard.

      • Bed Jul 22,2014 7:58 pm || Up

        What the hell…the teams keeps on winning. I’m still not sure how but I’m enjoying it.

        But seriously, folks...
  22. Bed Jul 22,2014 4:38 pm

    ***SPONSORED CONTENT***

    Hello friend. I’d like to talk to you about your next car purchase. If you want to drive smart, if you want to drive safe, you’ll drive a Datsun.

    But seriously, folks...
  23. Glorious Mundy Jul 22,2014 5:54 pm
    • PDXAthleticsfan Jul 23,2014 1:09 pm || Up

      Pah! (With Spawn1 at Lego camp at Portland Jewish Academy and Spawn2 still in daycare there, we’re probably safe.)

      A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
  24. AV Jul 22,2014 9:40 pm

    hey, my wife is getting pushed around professionally by lawyers. she needs to fight back in kind. do you guys do bailment law? (and can you be mean?)

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • AV Jul 22,2014 9:40 pm || Up

      or know someone?

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • Future Ed Jul 22,2014 9:43 pm || Up

        I don’t know what that means, but I can put you in touch with someone.

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • AV Jul 22,2014 9:59 pm || Up

          i’m not dead yet but you do estate sales.

          oh what a sweet old man. let’s do him a favor and help him for 3 days till he finds the keys to his storage.

          take my shit out of here and sell it. where’s my money?

          we tried but it didn’t sell, you can take it back.

          you stole something out of it.

          we’re storing it for free, you mean.

          i want an inventory.

          we don’t work for you. it’s all there because nobody wants it. get it out of here.

          my client wants you to pay for inventory and transpo, and arrange next storage or we’ll sue.

          touch me with your someone!

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  25. Glorious Mundy Jul 23,2014 1:43 pm

    So we got screwed in the “competitive balance” lottery again, eh?

    • MikeV Jul 23,2014 2:04 pm || Up

      asplain?

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

      • Glorious Mundy Jul 23,2014 2:18 pm || Up

        We got a pick after the second round, while the famously bereft Cardinals got one after the first round. Those picks can be traded, so a better one might have helped our search for a second basemen.

    • ptbnl Jul 23,2014 2:20 pm || Up

      8th of 15 isn’t really screwed – that belongs to the he Pirates, Rays and Royals who came 13th-15th and didn’t get a pick at all.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  26. PDXAthleticsfan Jul 23,2014 1:56 pm

    Yes, please. And I don’t really care for whom.

    A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
  27. PDXAthleticsfan Jul 23,2014 2:00 pm
    A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
  28. PDXAthleticsfan Jul 23,2014 2:06 pm

    Check out Mets-Mariners game…

    A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
    • Glorious Mundy Jul 23,2014 2:18 pm || Up

      Fun!

    • Dial C for Concupiscence Jul 23,2014 2:34 pm || Up

      Let’s go Bartolo!

    • Glorious Mundy Jul 23,2014 2:39 pm || Up

      Gameday is showing CY25 as 0-3 with 5 Ks. I know that’s not possible, and yet…

      • ptbnl Jul 23,2014 2:44 pm || Up

        I’m seeing 5 LOB

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
        • Glorious Mundy Jul 23,2014 2:46 pm || Up

          When you click on his name it moves the 5 to the K column.

      • Future Ed Jul 24,2014 10:49 am || Up

        I choose to believe what I believe to be true.

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Glorious Mundy Jul 23,2014 2:50 pm || Up

      Bobby Abreu is in the major leagues!

    • ptbnl Jul 23,2014 2:52 pm || Up

      The tough inning coming up.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • ptbnl Jul 23,2014 2:52 pm || Up

      Live streaming on mlb.com

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • PDXAthleticsfan Jul 23,2014 2:56 pm || Up

        Blacked out here :(

        A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
        • PDXAthleticsfan Jul 23,2014 2:57 pm || Up

          Never mind.

          A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
      • Glorious Mundy Jul 23,2014 2:57 pm || Up

        FKing Cano :(

        • AV Jul 23,2014 3:05 pm || Up

          what a jerk.

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • AV Jul 23,2014 3:16 pm || Up

      and a walk. i guess now they’ll never take a little part of king’s corner and name it colon’s appendix.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • PDXAthleticsfan Jul 23,2014 3:21 pm || Up

        Now it’s colon’s scattered entrails…

        A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
        • AV Jul 23,2014 3:27 pm || Up

          i quit. colon isn’t impacting anything and i don’t give a shit about the teams.

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  29. mikeA Jul 23,2014 3:15 pm

    The Mariners’ tv pxp guy is my least favorite by a lot. Completely unlistenable. He sounds like Michael Kay’s 11-year-old nephew.

    • Glorious Mundy Jul 23,2014 3:17 pm || Up

      Is that the excellently named Rick Rizzs?

    • PDXAthleticsfan Jul 23,2014 3:20 pm || Up

      Yep. As the only time I watch the A’s is when they play the Mariners, I do it with the sound off.

      A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
    • AV Jul 23,2014 3:23 pm || Up

      their in-stadium announcer doesn’t sound all that listenable either. though she keeps on talking and talking.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • AV Jul 23,2014 3:24 pm || Up

        is she selling something between every pitch?

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • doctorK Jul 23,2014 3:29 pm || Up

        I still have yet to hear anybody more un-listenable than Rennel.

        • AV Jul 23,2014 3:36 pm || Up

          and i’m fairly sure the safeco people went, hey, let’s get someone juuuust like rennel!

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  30. Glorious Mundy Jul 23,2014 5:01 pm
    • Soaker Jul 23,2014 5:08 pm || Up

      Well…I kinda miss that aspect of the 70s.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Jul 23,2014 5:13 pm || Up

        I remember when Fox On The Run was a big hit.

        I’m gonna go out on a limb and suggest that every pro baseball team ever has had a guy with a scoring rubric like Tanana’s.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • Soaker Jul 23,2014 5:20 pm || Up

          On a trip to Oakland earlier this year I spent a night at the Econo Lodge near the airport on Hegenberger. Which is a nondescript dumpy motel now, but in its heyday was the “Edgewater West Adult Motor Inn”, a haven for nudist swingers. You look out at the swimming pool and bar area in the interior courtyard and imagine the scene from the “Swingin’ A’s” era.

          What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • Glorious Mundy Jul 23,2014 5:15 pm || Up

      That page is chock full of Bed-bait too, what with the Datsun ad and the endlessly fascinating headline: “Tom Watson Has Lot Going”

      • Bed Jul 23,2014 5:57 pm || Up

        Bed: He was made for the 70’s.

        But seriously, folks...
      • doctorK Jul 23,2014 6:25 pm || Up

        Some of the people named in that sports section:
        Sal Bando
        Don Nelson
        Eddie Murray
        Sparky Lyle
        Cecil Cooper
        Ray Nietschke
        Wes Unseld
        Frank Shorter
        Tom Grieve
        Joe Rudi
        Johnny Bench
        Mark Johnson (hockey player on the Miracle On Ice team)

        Also, check out the ads for the ’77 Fords.

        • Glorious Mundy Jul 23,2014 6:32 pm || Up

          Possibly my favorite thing in the section:

          The outfielder, who is deep into religion, added, “God’s been so good to me.”

        • Glorious Mundy Jul 23,2014 6:34 pm || Up

          Hmm, this is pretty good too:

          The movie “Pumping Iron” apparently is having quite an effect on coeds at the University of Wisconsin.

          • Ben Folds' Nuts Jul 24,2014 12:40 am || Up

            Is that the one where Schwarzenegger talked about how lifting weights was like having an orgasm?

            • MikeV Jul 24,2014 9:03 am || Up

              Yep.

              And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

              Thanks, and go As.

    • Glorious Mundy Jul 23,2014 6:09 pm || Up

      Huh, Tanana got married in 1978, and they’re still married to this day. I guess he got it out of his system.

      • PDXAthleticsfan Jul 23,2014 10:33 pm || Up

        Or he’s very forgiving.

        A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
        • PDXAthleticsfan Jul 23,2014 10:34 pm || Up

          Or maybe she is.

          A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
  31. Glorious Mundy Jul 23,2014 6:03 pm

    Did Biz get Samardzija to beat box though.

    • AV Jul 23,2014 8:05 pm || Up

      ha! nice number.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  32. James V. Jul 24,2014 8:07 am

    Some interesting points here. Steps are occasionally taken to balance things out, as Olbermann notes. I do think there’s something to be said about defensive shifts becoming too much the norm now, but I’m not sure how reasonable it is to say “You can’t move your infielders there!” even though it’s known the hitter hits to that side 80% of the time. What’s wrong with more hitters going the opposite way or bunting to beat the shift? At this point I don’t know what should be done, if anything.

    • James V. Jul 24,2014 8:11 am || Up

      And as I actually watch alllll the way to the end, Olbermann basically says what I did.

      • 5Aces Jul 24,2014 9:04 am || Up

        Cant watch it here at work, but I know the arguement I hear most often is that the hitters who are shifted on shouldnt be trying to do those things. It is better in the long run for them to not try a bunch of bunt singles because they will still end up with more doubles and HRs. Would you want Moss spending his time bunting to get on, etc.

        Now I think what could/would happen is that eventually the increase in shifts causes kids and their coaches to teach to use the whole field more, and that at an undetermined point in the future we see move waves of young players who maybe dont have all the pull power, but aremuch more comfortable hitting to all parts of the field. But for now trying to go and tear apart a person who has spent the last 20 years learning to pull pull pull is more harm than good.

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
        • vignette17 Jul 24,2014 10:11 am || Up

          I absolutely want Moss bunting more. 80% chance of a hit vs his typically 35% chance of getting on base. And that’s without the benefit of them having to shift back eventually. I would have Barry Bonds bunt if he could do it consistently.

          • PDXAthleticsfan Jul 24,2014 10:17 am || Up

            This. I’m surprised more haven’t responded by doing this. If he can learn to bunt the low and away pitches that seem to be his nemesis, it would definitely improve things.

            A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
            • nevermoor Jul 24,2014 11:20 am || Up

              His odds would presumably be significantly lower than 80% if he’s waiting until post-pitch recognition to try to bunt. I don’t think that’s a feasible solution.

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • James V. Jul 24,2014 10:23 am || Up

            Even if it’s enough to get teams to stop shifting on him all the time, I can see the benefit to it. Then a regular defense will lead to more chances of pulling a base hit through the normal gaps instead of to the 2B playing in shallow RF. He might lose a few doubles and homers over time, but how many bunts should it take to get a defense to play you more straight up again?

            • nevermoor Jul 24,2014 11:22 am || Up

              This is the point that persuades me.

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
              • James V. Jul 24,2014 11:27 am || Up

                I would love to see someone actually try to do this consistently enough to force the defense to go back to a normal alignment. I’m not aware of anyone sticking with it beyond the rare bunt, though. There aren’t even many who go to the opposite field, simply because they’re just not that good at it.

                Hence, the shift.

          • Ben Folds' Nuts Jul 24,2014 10:29 am || Up

            Wasn’t Bonds a pretty good bunter back in his leadoff-hitter period?

          • andeux Jul 24,2014 10:54 am || Up

            If it were really 80% I would certainly want him doing it a lot more, but I don’t think it is anything close to that. Even players who practice bunting a lot, like NL pitchers and scrappy middle infielders, don’t get their bunts down where they want them 80% of the times. Some will be popped up, some will go right to the pitcher, and some will be fouled off putting him behind in the count. Also, even with a mostly vacant left side, there is some value in surprising the opponents when you do try to bunt for a hit.

            TINSTAAFK
            • Future Ed Jul 24,2014 11:25 am || Up

              I think it’d be worth it to try twice a week.

              Against lefties for sure. Bad fielding righties.

              He would realy have to push it up the third base line. Foul is OK, on the grass there is OK. has to be strong having enough energy to get past the mound. and cannot be more than 4 feet from the line.

              If it fails everytime (out), stop. If he is successful, try it with one strike every so often.

              I have $5. No I don\'t.
              • James V. Jul 24,2014 11:28 am || Up

                I had to laugh at the Adrian Gonzalez clip. Bunt foul, then home run on the next pitch.

                What Johnny Damon did that one time was genius, too. Just keep going after swiping second because nobody’s anywhere close to third.

                • Future Ed Jul 24,2014 11:41 am || Up

                  I want to see coco or gentry do that

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Ben Folds' Nuts Jul 24,2014 10:28 am || Up

      Wow, that Boudreau shift though.

  33. James V. Jul 24,2014 9:59 am

    Our long national nightmare is finally over.

  34. Jennifer Jul 24,2014 10:17 am

    It happened.

  35. elcroata Jul 24,2014 11:50 am

    Mariners get Kendrys. For Pryor.

    Because survival is insufficient
    • Future Ed Jul 24,2014 12:06 pm || Up

      comment of the day on the hardball talk post about it:

      chip56 – Jul 24, 2014 at 2:59 PM
      So just to clarify:

      Don’t get a draft pick for the player
      Spend money to try and replace him
      Trade an asset to get him back

      awesome GM work.

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  36. James V. Jul 24,2014 11:52 am

    Steve Kettmann and I have been exchanging e-mails leading up to him sharing the Korach videos I took at the get-together we had last month, and he posted one of them on the Holy Toledo Facebook group. For those of you who don’t have Facebook or don’t know of the group, here’s the text:

    “Who is Ken’s favorite player ever? Care to guess? Watch this video, courtesy of James Venes (thanks, James) from a recent book party Ken held for “Holy Toledo.” Ken also talks about Ray Fosse and how he’s much more than an ex-player, he’s an ex-player who has become an accomplished broadcaster.”

    And, the video. It’s part 4, and I expect the others will be shared sooner rather than later. I’ve kept them unlisted (this one is now public) just out of courtesy to Ken and Steve in case they wanted to make any decisions on the time and place to start sharing them.

    Like I wrote in the video summary, my bad on speaking over Ken during the manager question. He said “No comment” amid the laughter.

  37. nevermoor Jul 24,2014 11:53 am

    According to 538, Beane is worth hundreds of millions of dollars

    (note: I think the analysis has some fundamental flaws, but is still interesting)

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • colin Jul 25,2014 9:47 am || Up

      Here’s the money plot:

      The obvious flaw in the “hundreds of millions” claim: Beane might be really good at building teams that exceed expectations for low payroll, but can he (or anyone) build a team that exceeds the expectations of a high payroll?

      • nevermoor Jul 25,2014 9:54 am || Up

        And, of course, how much of that goodness is attributable to (1) successful draft picks he had no role in; (2) other transactions he had no role in? And you have to look at full talent costs (intl/draft/etc).

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • 5Aces Jul 25,2014 10:18 am || Up

          Well and is the goal of a GM to have a successful winning %. Especially as payroll goes up I would think rings count more wether it is a crap shoot or not.

          Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
        • Glorious Mundy Jul 25,2014 10:28 am || Up

          Maybe the second peak shows the real money is in Farhan Zaidi.

      • Future Ed Jul 25,2014 1:24 pm || Up

        “here’s the money plot”

        heh

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • vignette17 Jul 25,2014 3:43 pm || Up

      Shamelessly stolen from the Scout board:

  38. ptbnl Jul 24,2014 12:02 pm

    Puke alert, as the campaign to make Jeter the first unanimous HOF inductee gets underway.

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • dmoas Jul 24,2014 12:06 pm || Up

      Hell no. No where near deserving. If Rickey wasn’t Jeter sure as shit isn’t.

      • Future Ed Jul 24,2014 12:09 pm || Up

        While I think that not being unanimous on players that are no doubt hall of famers is the stupids, Jeter is not the poster boy for that.

        Maddox? Tom seaver? Steve Carlton?

        and of course, Rickey.

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • dmoas Jul 24,2014 12:19 pm || Up

          Well sure. BUT, if no one has, Jeter is by no means more a no doubt HOFer than many before him who weren’t unanimous. He’s not an exception.

          • MikeV Jul 24,2014 12:21 pm || Up

            Exactly.

            Is he a HOF player? Yes, and he’s gonna be on the first ballot because Yankees.

            Is he one of the inner circle greatest players in the history of the game? No.

            And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

            Thanks, and go As.

            • Future Ed Jul 24,2014 12:47 pm || Up

              I think we are all agreeing with each other.

              I have $5. No I don\'t.
              • dmoas Jul 24,2014 12:51 pm || Up

                No we’re not. We’re agreeing with me which just so happens to be with you & him as well.

    • Glorious Mundy Jul 24,2014 12:07 pm || Up

      “What can you say he hasn’t done? He has every credential imaginable — great player, good citizen. He plays the game properly, respects the game and his predecessors. He’s done it in the big city, for one team that wears a uniform of greatness. He has no marks against him. He has the numbers. And he wins.

      “He’s a class act all the way. A pro’s pro, a gentleman’s gentleman. If you’re starting a franchise, who do want as your first pick? I’ll take Jeter, thank you. And I’m sure I wouldn’t get too many arguments.”

      • dmoas Jul 24,2014 12:09 pm || Up

        I can think of a number of players I’d choose over him. Hell, he wouldn’t even crack my top 100.

        • Glorious Mundy Jul 24,2014 12:10 pm || Up

          But he’s a gentleman’s gentleman, dmoas.

          • AV Jul 24,2014 12:13 pm || Up

            not that there’s anything wrong with that.

            *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
          • Englishmajor Jul 25,2014 5:55 pm || Up

      • ptbnl Jul 24,2014 12:11 pm || Up

        “He’s a class act all the way. A pro’s pro, a gentleman’s gentleman. If you’re starting a franchise, who do want as your first pick? I’ll take Jeter, thank you. And I’m sure I wouldn’t get too many arguments. white”

        Fixed.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
        • andeux Jul 24,2014 12:13 pm || Up

          He is?

          TINSTAAFK
          • Future Ed Jul 24,2014 12:15 pm || Up

            He’s not not white.

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
            • ptbnl Jul 24,2014 12:26 pm || Up

              Yeah – a misleading comment on that kind of proxy language rather than on Jeter specifically (especially since, as you point out, he isn’t).

              If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
              • Future Ed Jul 24,2014 12:49 pm || Up

                I don’t know, but he seems to have made it a point not to identify as anything. NOt that he needs to, but, I think most of these writers think of him as white.

                I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • AV Jul 24,2014 12:52 pm || Up

                  never thought of it before. what are his roots?

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • Glorious Mundy Jul 24,2014 12:55 pm || Up

                  Father black, mother white. Both saintly avatars of perfection, I would assume.

                • ptbnl Jul 24,2014 12:57 pm || Up

                  US military.

                  If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
                • andeux Jul 24,2014 1:03 pm || Up

                  I guess if Immaculate Conception were involved, he could be white after all.
                  (Or if Dave Concepcion were involved, he could be Hispanic.)

                  TINSTAAFK
                • Ben Folds' Nuts Jul 25,2014 9:05 am || Up

                  Let’s just go ahead and start this Dave Concepcion rumor right now.

                • AV Jul 24,2014 1:19 pm || Up

                  huh.

                  well, they look like nice people in the pics.

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • 5Aces Jul 24,2014 1:36 pm || Up

                  He has a human father? It wasnt a virgin birth?? I care to disagree.

                  Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
                • ptbnl Jul 24,2014 12:56 pm || Up

                  It would be interesting to see how his career and media coverage differed in the parallel universe in which he was significantly darker.

                  If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
                • 5Aces Jul 24,2014 1:38 pm || Up

                  The universe where he has the last name Rodriguez (or Jackson) and A-Rod has a more generic last name and is whiter. Then Jeter refusing to move off of SS is seen totally different.

                  Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
          • elcroata Jul 25,2014 8:42 am || Up

            #humanstain

            Because survival is insufficient
    • AV Jul 24,2014 12:07 pm || Up

      time to strategize. should we include mention in our kickstarter campaign that we’re looking for a writer to sell us his or her vote hoping they volunteer, or do we just gather money until we know whose shoulder we can afford to tap?

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • Glorious Mundy Jul 24,2014 12:09 pm || Up

      This is a FKing weird column anyway.

    • dmoas Jul 24,2014 12:25 pm || Up

      WTF. He left Rickey off that list. Man this guy is a hack writer.

  39. James V. Jul 24,2014 6:27 pm
    • Glorious Mundy Jul 24,2014 6:37 pm || Up

      Eric Chavez was “Mr. Smooth … the way he wore his pants,”

    • andeux Jul 24,2014 6:38 pm || Up

      “Shonda was not a very nice lady,” and if you were married to Curt, “you wouldn’t be, either.”

      TINSTAAFK
      • AV Jul 24,2014 6:51 pm || Up

        down the googlehole.

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
        • Ben Folds' Nuts Jul 25,2014 9:26 am || Up

          Who is this person that spent a lot of time as a player’s girlfriend, hates the Red Sox, and is also WAY into Flash comic books?

    • AV Jul 24,2014 6:49 pm || Up

      so where is it players are going out to? what restaurants and clubs? prolly SF i guess…

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  40. Glorious Mundy Jul 25,2014 12:53 pm
    • Future Ed Jul 25,2014 1:25 pm || Up

      McGuire
      McGuire
      McGuire
      McGuire
      McGuire
      McGuire
      McGuire

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • DFA Jul 27,2014 9:11 am || Up

      I really wanted to draft him… I turned out to be rather wrong on that… but I have high hopes of being able to fix him

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
      • colin Jul 27,2014 11:35 am || Up

        Any time you can get a first round draft pick for cash considerations, that seems like a win to me.

        • Glorious Mundy Jul 27,2014 11:47 am || Up

          I guess that’s why we signed Tim Alderson too.

      • Ben Folds' Nuts Jul 27,2014 12:03 pm || Up

        Looks like he can strike guys out decently well. If he can get a handle on those home runs and maybe get the walks down, he could be solid.

      • 5Aces Jul 27,2014 1:07 pm || Up

        Really at this point there is no reason to ever think Billy is picking up a pitcher as “organizational filler”. I assume he could pick up Walter “Boom Boom” Beck today and he could go 7 giving up 2 ER on 6 hits, striking out 3 and walking 2.

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  41. Glorious Mundy Jul 25,2014 1:05 pm

    Ouch:

    At this point, the odds look good that the Phillies will have paid Ryan Howard $125 million to be less valuable than a guy they could’ve found in the minors and paid the league minimum.

    • 5Aces Jul 25,2014 1:10 pm || Up

      What really hurts is that EVERYONE knew this the day the contract was signed.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
      • Glorious Mundy Jul 25,2014 1:12 pm || Up

        Everyone but Ruben Amaro and Jon Heyman #shame

        • Future Ed Jul 25,2014 1:26 pm || Up

          a lot of Phan’s on HBT defended Howard for a longer than they should have because RsBI. I don’t know they defended the contract, but they thought he was better than Votto.

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • James V. Jul 25,2014 1:24 pm || Up

        About the same as we all knew the Jim Johnson deal was bad when the A’s made it. Fortunately it was just one year.

        • Dial C for Concupiscence Jul 25,2014 1:26 pm || Up

          A much smaller scale version of “I expected bad sure, but not THAT bad” thankfully

        • Glorious Mundy Jul 25,2014 1:27 pm || Up

          I didn’t know. I thought he would be a good, if overpaid, middle reliever/ground ball specialist.

          • Dial C for Concupiscence Jul 25,2014 1:30 pm || Up

            I expected a thoroughly unspectacular but fairly reliable closer who is making far more money than he’s worth. So a bad deal, but still one with some production value

            • Future Ed Jul 25,2014 1:42 pm || Up

              This is where I was. I thought at worst he would be demoted to 8th inning after cook or doolittle became the closer.

              I was fine getting him for free. (interesting how Schoop and now paredes are in front of weeks in BAL)

              In the best world he would do his smoke and mirror 20 saves by the deadline and get flipped for something better

              I have $5. No I don\'t.
              • DFA Jul 27,2014 9:13 am || Up

                I thought we were getting a middle reliever for 10 million, not the worst pitcher in baseball.

                In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
          • James V. Jul 25,2014 2:17 pm || Up

            I’m not sure where I said it by now, but I was pretty much ‘do not want’ over getting Johnson.

    • andeux Jul 25,2014 1:16 pm || Up

      nb nm: For his career as a whole, overpaid by “only” about $30-$40 M so far ($130 M for 18-20 WAR), but with $60 M still due could actually be the 9 figures you suggested the other day by the end of his contract.

      TINSTAAFK
      • nevermoor Jul 25,2014 3:53 pm || Up

        Particularly if his going-forward WAR is negative.

        But I’m shocked it’s that low.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • Dial C for Concupiscence Jul 25,2014 1:24 pm || Up

      Daric Barton since the Howard extension kicked in: 0.5 bWAR
      Ryan Howard since the Howard extension kicked in: -0.8 bWAR

  42. Glorious Mundy Jul 25,2014 2:08 pm

    OK, enough already:

    • dmoas Jul 25,2014 2:39 pm || Up

      How is that supposed to be representing the military? That looks more like it’s dedicated to Venice Beach.

      • Glorious Mundy Jul 25,2014 2:56 pm || Up

        Let’s just say that the graphics aren’t the only things being sublimated.

    • James V. Jul 25,2014 2:53 pm || Up

      That’s so stupid.

  43. nowBodhi Jul 25,2014 2:43 pm

    It’s July 25th, so get your funky fusion Friday freakin’ and you weekend wigglin’ with this 80th birthday commemoration of the man who could bump it in 21/4 better than anyone who ever lived, the legendarily heroic Don Ellis. Who the funk is Don Ellis, I hear you say? If you’ve ever seen either of the classic FRENCH CONNECTION films, you’re closer to the truth than you may know… to go the rest of the distance, blog over and grab the twisted compilation of his craziest & deepest tracks I have just composited for the ongoing astonishment of your pelvis. :P

    Never suck on a Blow Pop with the microphone open.
  44. Englishmajor Jul 25,2014 6:01 pm

    The Minnesota Vikings are a bunch of callous bird-killing bastards. (You can get a great view of stadium construction from the light rail train that goes to Target Field, BTW.)

  45. James V. Jul 25,2014 6:15 pm

    Might be a large image, but here’s a quick chart on MLB run differentials this season. Full-size version here.

    • ptbnl Jul 25,2014 6:18 pm || Up

      So +163 plays -112 and we’re down by 2.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  46. Future Ed Jul 27,2014 9:42 am
    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  47. James V. Jul 28,2014 7:54 pm

    There’s info on everything these days.

    • Ben Folds' Nuts Jul 29,2014 12:22 am || Up

      Congratulations to the Mets, Orioles, Royals, Angels, and Blue Jays, for not allowing it.

  48. James V. Jul 28,2014 9:11 pm

    Might be time to retire the thing.

    • dmoas Jul 28,2014 9:25 pm || Up

      Not until people regular drop their drawers to lay down an epic kiss.

    • Future Ed Jul 28,2014 9:31 pm || Up

      I cannot believe that thing still exist. especially in sf

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • Future Ed Jul 28,2014 9:38 pm || Up

        Further, the A’s giants game I went to I attended with a woman who is not SLF. what was I supposed to do in that situation?

        its so stupid

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • dmoas Jul 28,2014 11:26 pm || Up

          Stand up, turn around, drop your pants, and pucker up.

    • Ben Folds' Nuts Jul 29,2014 12:24 am || Up

      Par for the creepy course in that organization.

      • James V. Jul 29,2014 7:19 am || Up

        It really is. Makes you wonder how far apart they looked in age, and why someone apparently assumed it was some older guy with a young trophy wife or something.

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