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  1. Ben Folds' Nuts Jun 27,2014 4:07 pm

    “Green and yellow”–The non-Jeff Conine announcer for the Marlins, referring to the A’s colors.

  2. FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 27,2014 4:07 pm

    Damnit! I mean, I’ll delete mine.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Ben Folds' Nuts Jun 27,2014 4:08 pm || Up

      I should probably delete mine, since yours was better.

      • FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 27,2014 4:09 pm || Up

        Nah, you got first dibs. I’ll get plenty of other chances to bolster my site-leading game thread winning %.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  3. FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 27,2014 4:09 pm

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  4. Ben Folds' Nuts Jun 27,2014 4:15 pm

    I feel like their pitcher is coming set twice.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 27,2014 4:17 pm || Up

      He’s trying to buy a vowel.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • dmoas Jun 27,2014 4:22 pm || Up

      The guy for the O’s comes to a set three or four times. Balks every fking pitch, but never gets called on it.

  5. FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 27,2014 4:17 pm

    Injury delay? Who’s hurt?

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Soaker Jun 27,2014 4:18 pm || Up

      The Moss line drive was straight back at the pitcher DeSclafani, who appeared to get nailed in the side.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • dmoas Jun 27,2014 4:22 pm || Up

        Had to have hit something fatty cause that was smoked.

        • FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 27,2014 4:26 pm || Up

          Mmmmm, smoked fatty!

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  6. lenscrafters Jun 27,2014 4:24 pm

    A’s drafted Father Desme two picks before Stanton in ’07.

    • Soaker Jun 27,2014 4:29 pm || Up

      The A’s had 5 of the first 90 picks that year but didn’t exactly prosper. They took 1B Sean Doolittle with their first supplemental pick; the others were James Simmons, Corey Brown, Desme and Josh Horton.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 27,2014 4:38 pm || Up

        Really the A’s should stop drafting Tar Heels. Horton and Carignan did not exactly follow in Walt Weiss’s footsteps.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • DFA Jun 28,2014 9:15 am || Up

          I really didn’t like the simmons pick

          In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
          • nevermoor Jul 3,2014 8:42 am || Up

            In fairness, we probably would have ruined Stanton somehow.

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  7. dmoas Jun 27,2014 4:28 pm

    I think they need a rule that you can wear any sort of protection to the plate, but anything non-standard, jersey + helmet, if you get hit on it, it won’t be considered a HBP.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 27,2014 4:38 pm || Up

      How about codpieces?

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  8. Ben Folds' Nuts Jun 27,2014 4:41 pm

    Well that inning was as disappointing as the Oakland City Council.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 27,2014 4:52 pm || Up

      Nowhere near that disappointing. Going down 1-2-3 is at least timely. A disappointing Council half inning includes an injury, a replay review, and a bench-clearing brawl involving only one team throwing punches at its own players.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • dmoas Jun 27,2014 4:56 pm || Up

        You forgot to mention fan interference and a bad decision by the commissioner.

  9. lenscrafters Jun 27,2014 4:45 pm

    Jeff Mathis is still a major leaguer?

  10. lenscrafters Jun 27,2014 5:06 pm

    HOLY…he’s out!

    • dmoas Jun 27,2014 5:07 pm || Up

      Live it looked like there was absolutely no way he was out. I mean, he actually beat the ball to the plate, let alone the tag itself.

    • AV Jun 27,2014 6:26 pm || Up

      i giggled.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • AV Jun 27,2014 6:27 pm || Up

        i mean when it happened. confused a lot of people because we were all watching different things on mute.

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  11. dmoas Jun 27,2014 5:06 pm

    That was a really shitty slide, but that just adds another notch in Cespedes belt. Gold Glove is coming his way this year.

  12. dmoas Jun 27,2014 5:16 pm

    Please don’t swing the bat. You’re more likely to hit into a double play rather than a hit.

    • Soaker Jun 27,2014 5:17 pm || Up

      Jesse Chavez aspires to a career batting average of .025. Which is .025 higher than his current career average.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  13. lenscrafters Jun 27,2014 5:21 pm

    Coco would make a great flag football player.

  14. doctorK Jun 27,2014 5:29 pm

    What happened to BEARD?

    • mikeA Jun 27,2014 5:30 pm || Up

      Hurt his back…

    • Soaker Jun 27,2014 5:31 pm || Up

      It looked like he was trying to flex his back a little bit, but given the history that could have been a way of trying to shake out some cobwebs. There was nothing on that specific pitch block that should have caused an injury.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • DFA Jun 28,2014 9:17 am || Up

        backs rarely need something specific to act up… theyre just crotchety

        In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
        • Future Ed Jun 28,2014 9:19 am || Up

          not a good sign from a 25 year old

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
  15. batgirl Jun 27,2014 5:37 pm

    These marlins unis do have some nice rainbow-y pride accents.

  16. Soaker Jun 27,2014 5:38 pm

    LOL at that ridiculous curved wall in center field.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  17. sslinger Jun 27,2014 5:39 pm

    Wow, that weird curved portion of the outfield wall gave that one a wicked carom.

    • Soaker Jun 27,2014 5:45 pm || Up

      I took the Marlins Park tour when I was in Miami over a year ago. It was February and the field was torn up so it was hard to get any sense of the game experience. The neon green, oddball angles all over (fences, scoreboard), fish tank…it seemed like they went overboard to be goofy. Little Havana isn’t the greatest neighborhood, not the worst either, but it seemed like a place where you pull into the parking garage, go straight to the game, then leave. There didn’t appear to be any commercial development around the park that would induce people to show up a couple hours early. It was only a year old at that time though, so a little early to pass judgment about neighborhood upgrades.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • James V. Jun 27,2014 11:15 pm || Up

        Talk on the radio was that there’s just plain nothing around the place, which felt odd since the Coliseum is pretty much the same. That’s why I feel so strongly that the area around it needs to be developed up if a new ballpark ever ends up built on the same site.

  18. Future Ed Jun 27,2014 5:40 pm

    sounding good josh

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • 5Aces Jun 27,2014 5:47 pm || Up

      Feeling good, Louis!

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  19. Future Ed Jun 27,2014 5:54 pm

    great ab Chuy

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  20. Future Ed Jun 27,2014 6:03 pm

    grand slam infante, 7-2 Royals over angels

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Future Ed Jun 27,2014 6:04 pm || Up

      3rd inning. Royals have vargas

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  21. lenscrafters Jun 27,2014 6:04 pm

    Come on Jesse…

  22. Soaker Jun 27,2014 6:06 pm

    It looks like Jesse wore himself out on that long at bat in the top of the inning.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  23. Future Ed Jun 27,2014 6:06 pm

    vunce, when a batter hits an RBI single, I don’t care that its a cutter. tell me its a hit, an RBI, then its a cutter

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • AV Jun 27,2014 6:31 pm || Up

      part vince part dunce?

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • AV Jun 27,2014 6:59 pm || Up

      i followed every step of the flubbed catch call. but then he signed off the 5–5 inning by saying the A’s got the lead.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • AV Jun 28,2014 10:04 am || Up

        and now looking at the replay with his call added, i see the throw to third wasn’t late. it was off line. they lie to me all the time.

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  24. lenscrafters Jun 27,2014 6:10 pm

    ridiculous

  25. Future Ed Jun 27,2014 6:10 pm

    i liked this game better 5 minutes ago

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  26. lenscrafters Jun 27,2014 6:12 pm

    unfuckingbelievable

    • AV Jun 27,2014 6:32 pm || Up

      seriously what happened? i missed about 2 innings.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • lenscrafters Jun 27,2014 6:36 pm || Up

        Marlins had one inning where everything went their way. Lots of dinks and well placed balls.

  27. 5Aces Jun 27,2014 6:14 pm

    Otero is determined to get the bases cleared.

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  28. lenscrafters Jun 27,2014 6:20 pm

    Incredibly shitty luck for the A’s today.

    • Thunderbutt Jun 27,2014 7:08 pm || Up

      It’s stupid.

      There is always a score.
      • Future Ed Jun 27,2014 8:51 pm || Up

        we don’t have to worry about pittsburgh

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
  29. AV Jun 27,2014 6:30 pm

    :(

    they were winning last i heard…

    still, rox and vinny sound super glum.

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  30. lenscrafters Jun 27,2014 6:32 pm

    And now the Royals are melting down.

    • lenscrafters Jun 27,2014 6:46 pm || Up

      Royals finally get out of it clinging to a two run lead.

      • mikeA Jun 27,2014 6:47 pm || Up

        Could have been a lot worse… Bases loaded no outs, Angels only got 1, last out was very nearly a 2 run triple. I would have thought Vargas would be an ideal guy to protect a big lead, fly ball pitcher, no BBs. Didn’t work out that way.

  31. Soaker Jun 27,2014 6:39 pm

    So we’re going to showcase Jim Johnson in the bottom of the 8th?

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  32. Soaker Jun 27,2014 6:41 pm

    The Marlins defense did not handle that very well at all.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  33. mikeA Jun 27,2014 6:49 pm

    It was Cook and Mathis was on the Blue Jays…

  34. mikeA Jun 27,2014 6:49 pm

    This sucks.

  35. lenscrafters Jun 27,2014 6:50 pm

    So many hanging sliders…

  36. mikeA Jun 27,2014 6:54 pm

    Huh, Frieri for Grilli is an interesting trade, just saw that.

    • Future Ed Jun 27,2014 8:52 pm || Up

      here is our guy we don’t like, lets have yours.

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • DFA Jun 28,2014 9:24 am || Up

        the Pirates love xFIP which Frieri has great marks in… plus with the potential for longer control it makse sense for them.

        In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
  37. mikeA Jun 27,2014 6:55 pm

    The Royals have a bunch of good relievers, not sure why they’re not using them. They are going to blow the game this inning.

  38. mikeA Jun 27,2014 6:58 pm

    Should be able to steal on this guy.

  39. lenscrafters Jun 27,2014 6:58 pm

    Please score here. I do not want to see Gregerson pitching to Stanton.

  40. Soaker Jun 27,2014 6:59 pm

    Don’t miss this opportunity, ladies.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  41. mikeA Jun 27,2014 7:02 pm

    Looked safe, but I bet they don’t overturn it.

    • Soaker Jun 27,2014 7:03 pm || Up

      “No indisputable evidence, call stands” I suspect.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • Soaker Jun 27,2014 7:06 pm || Up

        I’m glad I’m wrong so frequently.

        What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  42. lenscrafters Jun 27,2014 7:03 pm

    Really fking sick of Gallego’s nonsense.

  43. AV Jun 27,2014 7:06 pm

    ha!

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  44. lenscrafters Jun 27,2014 7:06 pm

    Wow. That’s unbelievable.

    • Thunderbutt Jun 27,2014 7:07 pm || Up

      Did not think we were going to get that call.

      There is always a score.
  45. mikeA Jun 27,2014 7:07 pm

    Good for them, it was like 97% clear he was safe, stupid to do the cop out when it’s like that.

    • lenscrafters Jun 27,2014 7:09 pm || Up

      Joe West was hilariously reluctant to take off his headset.

  46. lenscrafters Jun 27,2014 7:11 pm

    Vogt is seriously awesome.

  47. Thunderbutt Jun 27,2014 7:11 pm

    Can not send Vogt back down.

    There is always a score.
  48. Thunderbutt Jun 27,2014 7:12 pm

    The A’s are working. Nine to five.

    There is always a score.
  49. Soaker Jun 27,2014 7:13 pm

    Very nice to beat up on their closer in the opening game of the series.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  50. AV Jun 27,2014 7:13 pm

    give up, marlins. i need to go.

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  51. Thunderbutt Jun 27,2014 7:20 pm

    Just Doo it.

    There is always a score.
  52. Soaker Jun 27,2014 7:25 pm

    It wasn’t too pretty for a few innings there but wound up being a sweet win.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  53. Thunderbutt Jun 27,2014 7:26 pm

    Donaldson looking good, Lowrie looking good, even Reddick looking good.

    Chavez looking like a starter with a hard luck W/L record.

    There is always a score.
  54. Ben Folds' Nuts Jun 27,2014 7:40 pm
  55. FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 27,2014 7:52 pm

    We won!

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  56. lenscrafters Jun 27,2014 8:14 pm

    Royals hang on and win after taking mikeA’s advice to use their best relievers.

  57. Soaker Jun 27,2014 8:55 pm

    So A.J. Pierzynski was ejected from a game a couple weeks ago for turning to one of the rookie umpires after ball four, asking for a new baseball and saying “Give me one you can see”? I mean, A.J. is a jerk but that’s a pretty good one.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • Future Ed Jun 27,2014 9:18 pm || Up

      same guy that blew the Napoli foul tip

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • dmoas Jun 27,2014 9:37 pm || Up

      Admittedly I laughed at that one too.

  58. James V. Jun 27,2014 11:19 pm

    Staying in Bakersfield tonight on the way to Las Vegas, and I caught most of this one through the MLB At Bat app. Since I set it up for my tablet, which is wifi only, I just turned the phone’s hotspot thing on, had that connected while I drove, and plugged the tablet in to my stereo’s aux input. Just as good as having it on the radio.

    Bad inning to blow the lead, but nice finish.

    • DFA Jun 28,2014 9:52 am || Up

      Why would you just not install it on your phone and skip the hotspot thing which

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
      • James V. Jun 28,2014 5:46 pm || Up

        I’m just kind of cheating with an app instead of signing up for a hotspot thing through Verizon.

  59. James V. Jun 28,2014 7:16 am

    Sean Doolittle threw 71.3% (154/216) of his pitches for strikes through the end of April. Since then? 77.1% strikes (246/319).

    • James V. Jun 28,2014 7:19 am || Up

      Sean Doolittle has allowed 1 hit in 13 IP this month, plus 0 walks and 20 strikeouts. That’s a WHIP of 0.077.

  60. Future Ed Jun 29,2014 9:50 am

    its official. reddick to DL, frieman batting 5th.

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 29,2014 10:10 am || Up

      They’re actually issuing Bob Welch’s #35 now, three weeks after his death? That’s really lame.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • dmoas Jun 29,2014 10:23 am || Up

        Worse, I still don’t see a patch.

        • FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 29,2014 10:26 am || Up

          If there was a patch there’d have been no question that the jersey # would not be issued. Issuing the jersey now just seems callous.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • James V. Jun 29,2014 1:39 pm || Up

          The fact there’s been no jersey patch actually bothers me.

          • Ben Folds' Nuts Jun 29,2014 4:10 pm || Up

            This entire discussion seems a bit overly sentimental. Yes, Bob Welch was a great dude by all accounts and put in some great work for the A’s, but baseball is not funereal. Is Bob Welch offended that we’re not wearing a patch and retiring his number? Is his family offended?

            • Soaker Jun 29,2014 4:18 pm || Up

              If he’d died at age 80 I’d agree with you. The issue here is that so many of the current fans saw him pitch and be a big contributor to the most recent period of greatness in A’s baseball. I don’t know that a patch is necessary, but maybe at least a marker and his uniform number on the outfield fence at the Coliseum, and Freiman would be just as happy with any number as long as it’s on a big league uniform.

              What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
            • dmoas Jun 29,2014 4:36 pm || Up

              He was a member of our last WS championship, he was known within the current team’s clubhouse since he was an advisor or whatever during Spring Training, and he was close with several current coaching/front office staff. So, no, I don’t think it’s overly sentimental. And it has little to do with his family or potential offensiveness of them.

              • 5Aces Jun 29,2014 5:47 pm || Up

                And I know this may sound crass, but that team is getting honored in like 2 weeks and it would have been expected he would be there. All the more reason they should have a patch or something. I think James mentioned on Twitter maybe waiting until the ceremony-that just seems wrong, but I guess I would like that less than nothing at all.

                Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
                • James V. Jun 29,2014 6:44 pm || Up

                  A couple others speculated the A’s may be waiting to do something at the reunion. That wasn’t my idea.

                  And I don’t think it has anything to do with whether or not someone deserves it, if anyone in his family will be offended if it doesn’t happen, etc. It’s pretty much standard practice that teams do a memorial patch when someone important to the team’s history passes. They did it for Catfish Hunter, and of course Bill King. They even wore a patch for the OPD. This year the Orioles are wearing a patch for Tom freaking Clancy, who was an investor in the team.

                  So no, I don’t think it’s out of the ordinary to expect a patch for Bob Welch. He was part of those great late-80s teams, was part of their last World Series winner, and we all know what he did in 1990.

                • 5Aces Jun 29,2014 6:56 pm || Up

                  Sorry, that did read like I thought it was your idea. I knew it wasn’t but weak typing and all…

                  And yeah,no offense to OPD, but if they get one Welch should no questions asked.

                  Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
                • James V. Jun 29,2014 7:03 pm || Up

                  And the patch would only be for half the season. Not like they’re retiring his number (especially with Freiman now wearing it).

                  In the grand scheme of things the expense to do the patches is nothing, and it shows more than just putting out a press release expressing regret a guy died.

                • 5Aces Jun 29,2014 7:08 pm || Up

                  Another selfish for me reason: When I get a jersey for this year and put the patch on it to remember the WS championship we will have…

                  (thought I was going to do the same thing with the King patch on a Big Hurt home white. Oh well.

                  Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
                • FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 29,2014 7:08 pm || Up

                  I’m OK with or without a Bob Welch patch. And there’s no reasonably equivalency of grief or mourning of course. But Oakland losing four cops on one horrible day affected people in the East Bay dramatically. Bob Welch passing at home in retirement is not really comparable.

                  "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
                • Future Ed Jun 29,2014 7:22 pm || Up

                  I bet there is a written policy on patches. Or at least If I were in charge there would be

                  The good thing about the OPD patch was the FK fest it unleased at **

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • James V. Jun 29,2014 7:24 pm || Up

                  What kind of FK fest?

                • Soaker Jun 29,2014 7:30 pm || Up

                  I think it was the “straw that broke the camel’s back” and led to the founding of FK.

                  What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
                • James V. Jun 29,2014 7:32 pm || Up

                  Really? Don’t think I caught that.

                • Soaker Jun 29,2014 7:34 pm || Up

                  Oakland police officers killed.
                  Somebody on ** says police officers are “heroes”.
                  PT says “Not all police officers are heroes.”
                  PT is banned.
                  mb and some others are the first exodus and start FK.

                  What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
                • James V. Jun 29,2014 7:39 pm || Up

                  Oh, yes. Now I remember that.

                • andeux Jun 29,2014 7:56 pm || Up

                  Sort of.

                  I’m pretty sure mb had left earlier, over some different issues, and I think (but am less sure) he was already working on starting FK.

                  But the PT banning was the last straw for several others of us.

                  TINSTAAFK
                • andeux Jun 29,2014 7:58 pm || Up

                  Sort of.

                  I’m pretty sure mb had left earlier, over some different issues (the headline stuff mentioned below), and I think (but am less sure) he was already working on starting FK.

                  But the PT banning was the last straw for several others of us.

                  TINSTAAFK
                • Future Ed Jun 29,2014 7:59 pm || Up

                  I want to know how this got past the duplicate comment filter

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • andeux Jun 29,2014 8:01 pm || Up

                  Weird, I thought I edited (to add a read-the-thread-andeux parenthetical), but somehow it ended up as a separate comment.

                  TINSTAAFK
                • Future Ed Jun 29,2014 8:03 pm || Up

                  alert nm! we have a security breech (breach?)

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • 5Aces Jun 29,2014 7:59 pm || Up

                  I think MB went because of the headline crap, not being able to use Monkeyball official headlines because it might make the Yahoos nervous.

                  Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
                • Ben Folds' Nuts Jun 29,2014 8:21 pm || Up

                  Wait, that’s what got PT banned from there? Jesus. That fucking place.

                • Future Ed Jun 29,2014 8:24 pm || Up

                  a couple of times “suspended” or some such nonsense.

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • 5Aces Jun 29,2014 8:27 pm || Up

                  PT was never permabanned-or if he was it was during the MikeV saga. If you search his posts you will see a note about it. But he got like a 30 day suspension for the whole affair. And, much like with Mike, it was outside of all the “normal process”.

                  Funny thing though-I just went back through his old comments to see if I could find the article in question and they aren’t there. It goes from July 2008 straight to Aug 2011. Thought police must have already erased the negativity of April ’09.

                  Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
                • Ben Folds' Nuts Jun 29,2014 8:43 pm || Up

                  The MikeV saga is responsible for one of my all-time favorite comments. People were riffing on “Wolff lied he never tried,” and someone–I think it was James–said “MIKEV MISSING DETAIL, NO VALID EMAIL.” For some reason that still makes me laugh out loud.

                • James V. Jun 29,2014 10:21 pm || Up

                  I don’t think I was clever enough to have thought of that then, but then again I did forget the OPD bit.

                • Ben Folds' Nuts Jun 30,2014 12:25 am || Up

                  It was either you or LoneStranger, but in my memory it’s definitely you.

                • James V. Jun 30,2014 6:42 am || Up

                  I’ll take it.

                • dmoas Jun 30,2014 11:38 am || Up

                  The 30 day thing was after the fact. Initially it was ban but because of the uproar they pulled the “Well we weren’t serious, it’s um, more of a suspension, he can blah blah, suck my dick, blah blah kiss my ass, blah.”

                • ptbnl Jun 29,2014 8:57 pm || Up

                  The FK meta-thread, if rehashing that history is your thing.

                  It does include my favorite my comment.

                  If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
                • Ben Folds' Nuts Jun 29,2014 9:21 pm || Up

                  Holy shit, a lot of pro-BBG comments in that thread.

                • Soaker Jun 29,2014 9:30 pm || Up

                  BBG had never done anything to particularly upset me up to that point. Whatever has happened subsequently I’m ignorant about.

                  What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
                • Ben Folds' Nuts Jun 29,2014 9:39 pm || Up

                  She’s a female Nico is what happened subsequently.

                • DFA Jul 3,2014 7:16 pm || Up

                  how so?

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • Ben Folds' Nuts Jul 4,2014 1:38 am || Up

                  You know the things people don’t like about Nico? Literally, every single thing people don’t like about Nico? Alright, now take away his shitty, irritating sense of humor and replace it with no sense of humor, and a bunch of whiny rants about how no one appreciates her, and also complete irrational hatred of any A’s player who makes a mistake.

                  That’s BBG.

                • DFA Jul 4,2014 1:40 am || Up

                  yeah i remember the rants and just thinking A) demand to be paid or B) resign

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • FreeSeatUpgrade Jun 29,2014 10:29 pm || Up

                  Jesus, that was an eternity ago. Ed still had cable.

                  "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
                • nevermoor Jul 3,2014 8:50 am || Up

                  I think part of it was that if tca was going to leave it could only be because she replaced him. So she was sort of our John Kerry.

                  Then she went full-metal TCA during the MikeV stuff, which was the last time I logged into the site.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • James V. Jul 3,2014 9:09 am || Up

                  Basically the result nobody wanted.

                • mikeA Jun 29,2014 8:41 pm || Up

                  I don’t think there was really any straw that broke the camel’s back, other than mb leaving, which was a pretty huge straw. I think the main impetus for most of the founders was just being sick of N*** (and various other people) and his bullshit, along with the direction the site as a whole was taking.

                • James V. Jun 29,2014 10:23 pm || Up

                  Pretty much. Most of you guys know for a good long while I pretty much backed TPTB in most anything, especially because for a bit I was on the “inside” and was part of a number of discussions about various people who we felt were intentionally trying to make the place worse. I think a lot more patience was being used then, and it was only later on that I “woke up.” But for a while, I think people tried to be as fair as they could be until Nico just went off the rails. It’s made worse that BBG seems to have gone the same route.

                • dmoas Jun 30,2014 11:44 am || Up

                  It’s along the lines of saying the civil war was fought over slavery when the truth is more intricately complicated and it’s just easier to point to a symptom of the cause rather than attempting articulate the complexity of the cause.

                • Ben Folds' Nuts Jun 30,2014 5:04 pm || Up

                  You’ve got that backwards. While the Civil War may technically have been fought over other issues, slavery was the root of the conflict.

                • nevermoor Jul 3,2014 8:51 am || Up

                  This.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • nevermoor Jul 3,2014 8:52 am || Up

                  For me, I had been pissed off about the shit PT constantly took (and then got blamed for responding to), and that thread was what pissed me off enough to dig into coding FK 1.0.

                  That said, I went back for various things until the MikeV debacle.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • Future Ed Jun 29,2014 7:33 pm || Up

                  there was the OPD thread that PaulThomas questioned and then there were politics rules. that was the same time that the Yahoo! headline rules came and the exodus of the founders here.

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • 5Aces Jun 29,2014 7:37 pm || Up

                  Police officers=heros I believe was what people decided the issue was. (It was of course way more complicated than that but if you explain you might lose yahooligans after that catchy headline caught them…)

                  Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
                • Ben Folds' Nuts Jun 29,2014 8:23 pm || Up

                  You know what’s always made no sense to me about the whole “we have to make sure AN is palatable to casual readers” thing? SBN lets its various “blogfathers” (stupid fucking term) basically run their sites however they see fit. But somehow AN was under a mandate to cater to non-regular readers?

                • James V. Jun 29,2014 10:25 pm || Up

                  It’s an empty excuse.

                • James V. Jun 29,2014 10:25 pm || Up

                  But then, they went full-on with the “nobody can make anybody feel unwelcome here and no meta either!” angle.

                • Ben Folds' Nuts Jun 30,2014 12:28 am || Up

                  “Nobody can make anyone feel unwelcome, except you can totally make women feel unwelcome. The only women who are allowed on AN are SoCal Republicans like BBG.”

                • nevermoor Jul 3,2014 8:53 am || Up

                  Also too: make sure you make PT/DFA/etc as uncomfortable as possible!

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • DFA Jul 3,2014 7:33 pm || Up

                  I fully realize that I can be a super dick; I am a super contrarian and not only do I have far more opinions that most, I also have far less regard for social niceties about not expressing my opinion when it conflicts with others or not insisting that they defend their beliefs to my satisfaction. That being said, none of the CG were enforced if something totally personal and out of line was said to me… and the same went for PT.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • nevermoor Jul 3,2014 7:43 pm || Up

                  Right. The constant “I think 1+1=3” then “No, 1+1 = 2 and here’s why” then “STFU DFA you condescending prick, I said ‘think’ so I don’t care” followed by scolding of DFA crap drove me nuts.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • DFA Jul 3,2014 9:32 pm || Up

                  Is it wrong that I take great happiness in Cahill failing as as he has?

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • 5Aces Jul 3,2014 9:34 pm || Up

                  Probably, but it just works off some of the extra Karma you had from Donaldson.

                  I was looking back the other day for the OPD blow up and I could not believe how sure PT was that Parker was not as good as Cahill. Makes me feel less bad for being clueless.

                  Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
                • Future Ed Jul 3,2014 9:36 pm || Up

                  i love stuff like that.

                  of course, i had no faith in moss

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • DFA Jul 3,2014 10:30 pm || Up

                  I ha(d)ve no faith in Reddick.

                  But then again he pulled a Pennington and had a fluke good first year obscuring the suckage that the numbers suggested.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • Future Ed Jul 3,2014 10:33 pm || Up

                  I remember those conversations.

                  you were right

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • DFA Jul 4,2014 12:47 am || Up

                  ive also been wrong a bunch too espinosa ryan sweeny etc etc

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • Glorious Mundy Jul 3,2014 9:47 pm || Up

                  That was the weirdest offseason, wasn’t it?

                • DFA Jul 3,2014 10:27 pm || Up

                  I thought Cahill was shit and I thought getting an injury prone player who hadn’t proven himself after TJS could end up with him hurting himself… which it did.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • DFA Jul 3,2014 10:28 pm || Up

                  Wait… you know that I argued till the cows come home that Cahill sucked right?

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • James V. Jun 29,2014 7:40 pm || Up

                  Yeah, can’t believe I forgot that. Then again, that’s how my memory is sometimes.

                • Ben Folds' Nuts Jun 29,2014 8:20 pm || Up

                  Something being standard practice doesn’t necessarily make not doing it callous and shitty.

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