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  1. andeux Feb 15,2014 11:51 am

    And in beer news.

    TINSTAAFK
    • Future Ed Feb 15,2014 11:58 am || Up

      did someone bring a dog inside the brewery?

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • ptbnl Feb 15,2014 12:43 pm || Up

      Bizarrely the article doesn’t mention that they’ll be opening right behind the identically-appointed (albeit 25% of the size) Drakes brewery/tap room/event space.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • brian.only Feb 15,2014 4:38 pm || Up

        Yeah, I thought that was strange too.

  2. nevermoor Feb 15,2014 11:59 am

    This just in: All members of the A’s are in the best shape of their lives after adding 5-15 pounds of muscle.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  3. AV Feb 15,2014 12:29 pm

    and there it is.

    messi: top la liga scorer in the same jersey. passes di stefano to tie for 3rd-most la liga scorer overall.

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  4. AV Feb 15,2014 12:33 pm

    wait. moss and reddick… which one is platooning at catcher, and which one is going to the rotation?

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • Future Ed Feb 15,2014 12:34 pm || Up

      barton showed up early too. (he should catch)

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • AV Feb 15,2014 12:37 pm || Up

        it’d be a nice change of pace for him. catching strikes from pitchers instead of hell from fans.

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  5. Future Ed Feb 15,2014 12:36 pm

    So I want to buy a bike. I don’t need a good bike. I want to spend less than $100. But I don’t know how to tell a bike isn’t stolen when I go top craigslist.

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • AV Feb 15,2014 12:38 pm || Up

      sounds like a 3-speed raleigh to me.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • brian.only Feb 15,2014 4:41 pm || Up

        Yeah, Raleigh sport FTW.
        Not sure how tongue in cheek the $100 part is but I was able to put a sweet new Fuji together new for $400 w/out the hub.

        • brian.only Feb 15,2014 4:44 pm || Up

          Meaning single speed @ $400. My 3 speed is stupid fast and lightweight.

    • ptbnl Feb 15,2014 12:48 pm || Up

      The seller having the receipt would be the safest, but you’d miss 99% of the unstolen bikes for sale then too.

      If a bulk second hand seller has been involved anywhere in the ownership history it has got a good chance of being stolen.

      Buying from a police sale is a whole different species of bad karma.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • AV Feb 15,2014 1:21 pm || Up

      http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/4334817028.html

      http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/4314194669.html

      these seem legit for a couple of totally circumstantial reasons. careful pictures. info about what it’s like to ride them. no spray paint to change the overall color. effort put into recent fixes or into improving it to sell. the price isn’t ridiculously low, like if you’re looking at a 2-yr-old campagnolo for $100, or even $300, probably stolen. that’s why i said 3-speed bike, because $100 is about market. bonus if they’ll let you meet them at their house.

      you could skip craigslist and go on FB, look for a SF bike community (for example) and ask if anyone has a bike to sell. i think the peer group will help oversee that any offers are legit.

      if you have the time at point of purchase, there are a couple of stolen bike registries that you can check the serial against.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • AV Feb 15,2014 1:26 pm || Up

        though by $100 market, i guess i mean ~$150.

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • DFA Feb 15,2014 3:49 pm || Up

      I have a bike that is a 55 cm that you can have. good city commuter type. needs a tune up.

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
      • Future Ed Feb 15,2014 4:39 pm || Up

        is it here in the city?
        It might be a touch too big, but I wouldn’t mind trying it for a bit. I can tune it up and return it when you give up on your LA story.

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • DFA Feb 15,2014 5:18 pm || Up

          It is in the city. Its my old bike which is too small for me. Ill be back starting on the 26th till the 4th, so I can get it to you that week. Its free and I dont’ need it.

          In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
          • Future Ed Feb 15,2014 5:27 pm || Up

            cool. It will cost me some drinks, I expect.

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Dial C for Concupiscence Feb 18,2014 10:22 am || Up

      I’ve been thinking of getting one too. I’ll have to keep this thread in mind

      • MikeV Feb 18,2014 10:24 am || Up

        So have I. I’m like 2 miles from work so I can bike in on days I don’t have the boys.

        And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

        Thanks, and go As.

    • AV Feb 19,2014 9:56 am || Up
      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  6. Future Ed Feb 15,2014 12:54 pm

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  7. Future Ed Feb 15,2014 4:45 pm

    not for the faint of heart

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • brian.only Feb 15,2014 4:47 pm || Up

      Fuck dude, that sucks, slegnA aside, I was pulling for him…

      • brian.only Feb 15,2014 4:47 pm || Up

        And now he has to limp for next 3 months feeling like a grandpa…

    • AV Feb 15,2014 5:03 pm || Up

      :(

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • ptbnl Feb 15,2014 6:31 pm || Up

      Ouch.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 15,2014 7:00 pm || Up

      A lesson to all of us aging ex-athletes.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • brian.only Feb 15,2014 7:08 pm || Up

        Dude, you were asked about a few times today Gramps, I’m hoping, no expecting (!), to see you in 2 weeks!

  8. Soaker Feb 15,2014 7:15 pm

    Kihei-Wailea bureau reporting here. There was a Hawaiian Monk Seal snoozing on the beach when I arrived about 9 this morning. There aren’t very many of these creatures remaining. The lifeguards called it in and some volunteers arrived complete with NOAA “Monk Seal Response Team” T-shirts. They put up a temporary fence around the gal and let her doze all day. Dumb-ass humans are a problem and their “offspring”, dogs, are apparently an especial nemesis to the seals. Fortunately it wasn’t much of a dog day at the beach. She didn’t move more than 5 feet all day but as I was leaving, a couple big waves came in and gave her a good whacking and within seconds she was off in search of a delicious fish dinner.

    It was “World Whale Day” in Kihei complete with a parade, street fair etc. You can see plenty of whale activity just by sitting on the beach all day. Sometimes you’ll see a couple of them putting on a really good show a couple hundred yards offshore with the big jumps out of the water, but that’s inevitably followed quickly by one of those damned boats loaded with tourists charging over for a close look. The whales wisely submerge and head elsewhere.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 15,2014 7:21 pm || Up

      What beach did you see the Monk Seal at? We moved from Kapalua to Wailea today.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Soaker Feb 15,2014 7:34 pm || Up

        The sight of Steven Tyler in a swimsuit scared you away from Kapalua? (One of the women I was near on the beach was raving about Tyler hugging her in a local restaurant or someplace the other day and I just thought ewwwwwwww.)

        This was at Little Beach. The seal was right at the bottom of the short trail where you come over from Big Beach. Speaking of scary sights, I might go back to Little Beach for one last day tomorrow but it would depend on weather, which is heading into a wet period. Monday and Tuesday both look like beach rainouts, so I’ll probably do the northwest Maui loop one of those days and the Hana loop the other before heading home Wednesday.

        What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
        • brian.only Feb 15,2014 7:45 pm || Up

          I’d need two baths from a Tyler hug if I were a women…

        • brian.only Feb 15,2014 7:48 pm || Up

          Try to make it out to Hana, it’s amazing, and there are far many less humans once you get past the end of the road. Waianapanapa is a great park, and if you have a 4 wheel drive the road out is even more beautiful. Love Hana.

          • Soaker Feb 19,2014 10:44 am || Up

            There are a lot of places to check out over on the Hana side. It was worth more than the day trip I gave it, particularly considering the excruciating drive. There are B&Bs in town so that’s on the list for next time.

            It’s been cloudy with rain showers for the last several days. As I get ready to go to the airport it’s an after-the-storm sparkling morning, just FKing glorious.

            What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
            • brian.only Feb 19,2014 11:21 am || Up

              Beautiful.

            • FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 19,2014 12:10 pm || Up

              In our six days there we did not see a single rainbow, can’t remember that ever happening on a Hawaii trip before.

              "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • brian.only Feb 15,2014 7:44 pm || Up

      Man, sounds like a great day in the greatest state in the union, I love Kihei, none of the white light nazi or yoga stud vibe from 15 minutes north, also far enough away from the west end corpo retreat, enjoy your time there!
      See all the whales you can you can you bastard, still waiting for my first!

      • Soaker Feb 15,2014 7:53 pm || Up

        Kihei has some dated shabbiness to it. It reminds me a lot of a tropical South Lake Tahoe in that way, and for a base camp on Maui it’s meshed well with my parsimony.

        What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
        • brian.only Feb 15,2014 8:07 pm || Up

          Full disclosure, the shabbiness is what I love about it, it’s ‘just’ Hawaii, no resorts or fanciness.
          Completely with you on home base, for us, it’s usually Kailua or Kihei, we’re 15 year graduates w/ Kihei rental too.

          • FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 15,2014 9:51 pm || Up

            In my younger days I loved a good shabby vacation setting. Downtown Las Vegas, for instance. These days I either totally rough it (backpack/tent/campstove) or go for the full luxury treatment. Both satisfy a certain escape which I really need from my vacations.

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  9. MikeV Feb 15,2014 8:00 pm

    2.7M contract for Schlong, avoided arby.

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

  10. Bed Feb 15,2014 8:26 pm

    I’ve always thought it was nice that the catchers show up so the pitchers have someone to throw to. (This has been Bed’s baseball analysis for the 2014 Major League Baseball season.)

    But seriously, folks...
  11. batgirl Feb 16,2014 10:37 am

    Pomeranz “didn’t throw due to an ingrown leg hair that had to be lanced”… Welcome to Oakland.

  12. DFA Feb 16,2014 11:42 am
    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
    • Future Ed Feb 16,2014 5:58 pm || Up

      irabu

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 16,2014 7:21 pm || Up

        Fat toad.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  13. andeux Feb 16,2014 8:36 pm
    TINSTAAFK
  14. FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 16,2014 9:40 pm

    Humber Humber. The tl/dr version:

    * Thinks too much; Bob Welch thinks he can help.
    * Lefties hit .433 against him; Curt Young thinks he can help.
    * Was briefly an Oakland A for Xmas 2010, then got claimed by CWS. Couldn’t be helped.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • MikeV Feb 16,2014 10:25 pm || Up

      His Perfect Game was during one of the FKGates if I recall correctly.

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

  15. Future Ed Feb 17,2014 10:35 am

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Future Ed Feb 17,2014 10:37 am || Up
      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • dmoas Feb 17,2014 11:44 am || Up

      The national TV money is kicking in.

  16. andeux Feb 17,2014 11:17 am
    TINSTAAFK
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 18,2014 6:28 pm || Up

      President of the Clowns of America International (?) decries article, says he was taken out of context and article is rife with errors. Such as:

      This reporter did not check even her own copy, as the Shriners are the largest clown organization

      .

      Large clowns in tiny cars. Comedy gold.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  17. andeux Feb 17,2014 11:56 am


    Mmmmmm, relief pitchers.

    TINSTAAFK
    • doctorK Feb 17,2014 12:18 pm || Up

      Savery is a good name for a reliever.

      • brian.only Feb 17,2014 1:20 pm || Up

        IKR, how many more bullpen arms can we get?

      • FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 18,2014 10:27 am || Up

        Sadly, born too late to have been a battery mate of my old fave with the Hawaii Islanders, catcher Rick Sweet.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • doctorK Feb 18,2014 1:13 pm || Up

          Hey – I remember that guy! One of several Islanders who never seemed to get a shot at the big leagues.

    • lenscrafters Feb 17,2014 1:43 pm || Up

      They must not be comfortable with Abad. So why trade Blevins?

  18. Glorious Mundy Feb 17,2014 1:55 pm

    The Angels made the highest offer to Matt Garza, and he blew them off.

    • doctorK Feb 17,2014 4:02 pm || Up

      I somehow doubt that Garza will be hurt financially by accepting only $50M over four years.

      • doctorK Feb 17,2014 4:03 pm || Up

        At the same time, LOL at the Angels.

        • nevermoor Feb 23,2014 10:25 am || Up

          It’s because they play in a shitty stadium where the pipes back up several times a season!!!

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • DFA Feb 23,2014 1:37 pm || Up

            I have it on good authority that Garza never would have played for the Angles

            read between the lines

            In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
            • FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 23,2014 5:44 pm || Up

              Is it because he’s so obtuse?

              "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
              • 5Aces Feb 23,2014 9:24 pm || Up

                Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
              • elcroata Feb 24,2014 4:01 am || Up

                ASVD

                Because survival is insufficient
      • MikeV Feb 17,2014 5:38 pm || Up

        In fact he’s paying less taxes in Wisconsin so he may just about break even.

        And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

        Thanks, and go As.

        • ptbnl Feb 17,2014 5:53 pm || Up

          Though it’s complicated by paying taxes to the state you’re playing in – so only half the time Wisconsin over California. As an Angel 3/4 of his road interleague games would be in states with no tax, for example.

          If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
          • MikeV Feb 17,2014 8:46 pm || Up

            I’d still take half my games outside of CA right off the bat.

            And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

            Thanks, and go As.

        • ozzman99 Feb 24,2014 9:20 pm || Up

          But he may face more bunters.

  19. lenscrafters Feb 17,2014 3:23 pm

    Ubaldo 4/48 -> Orioles

    That could be a great bargain for them. Him and Kazmir were the two SPs I wanted this offseason.

    • DFA Feb 17,2014 5:56 pm || Up

      yeah thats a great deal. Draft pick compensation really hurt him

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
    • Future Ed Feb 17,2014 6:00 pm || Up

      ubaldo had a QO, yeah?

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  20. DFA Feb 17,2014 6:59 pm
    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
    • Future Ed Feb 17,2014 7:41 pm || Up

      are you planning to use it for a jail break?

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • DFA Feb 17,2014 8:16 pm || Up

        am i in jail?

        In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
        • Future Ed Feb 17,2014 8:18 pm || Up

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • DFA Feb 17,2014 8:27 pm || Up

            Well thats not creepy…

            In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
            • AV Feb 17,2014 8:44 pm || Up

              sounds like you’re anglin’ to buy the book i made.

              *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
              • Future Ed Feb 18,2014 6:28 am || Up

                its cheaper if you are an AV club member

                I have $5. No I don\'t.
            • ozzman99 Feb 24,2014 9:21 pm || Up

              Don’t google Joel Peter Witkin.

    • dmoas Feb 17,2014 7:45 pm || Up

      Not even worth a hundredth of that.

      • Glorious Mundy Feb 17,2014 7:52 pm || Up

        But it’s a masterpiece! The artist him or herself says so!

        • AV Feb 17,2014 8:04 pm || Up

          i just wonder if it’s original. those quotes really put the term in doubt.

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • colin Feb 18,2014 6:04 am || Up

        That ad hits a sweet spot where the sculpture shows some clear evidence of competency. It’s kind of fun and not terrible. But then you read the text and see the price tag and realize that the person is just crazy.

    • batgirl Feb 18,2014 10:19 am || Up

      I love the “bonus offer!”

    • Dial C for Concupiscence Feb 18,2014 10:31 am || Up

      You’re obviously Extremely Serious about this DIEHARD COLLECTOR’S ITEM. Perhaps you Can Bargain it Down and enjoy some ORiginal Art to Display in your Home and/or “Domicile.”

      • Future Ed Feb 18,2014 1:34 pm || Up
        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • andeux Feb 18,2014 1:43 pm || Up

          Count again.

          TINSTAAFK
          • Future Ed Feb 18,2014 1:58 pm || Up

            oh wow.

            ouch.

            When did crazy people stop using commas?

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
            • ptbnl Feb 18,2014 2:18 pm || Up

              Cash only too.

              If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
              • FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 18,2014 2:35 pm || Up

                Specifically, though, he’s asking for “CASH” (quotation marks in original). To me that means I could give him 900000 in something I consider to be “CASH” and I’d meet the terms of his offer.

                Frankly, the most impressive thing about this is that he has kept this 6 foot tall assemblage of sytrofoam pieces intact for more than 25 years.

                "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
                • dmoas Feb 18,2014 3:53 pm || Up

                  You give him too much credit. He just made it yesterday.

                • andeux Feb 18,2014 3:57 pm || Up

                  No:

                  I created this Sculpture back in 1987, where it has remained completely intact for over 25 years.

                  It has stayed in the year 1987 for all this time.

                  TINSTAAFK
                • dmoas Feb 18,2014 6:02 pm || Up

                  Yes, it was implied that that was a lie.

                • andeux Feb 18,2014 6:12 pm || Up

                  Thanks for clearing that up.

                  TINSTAAFK
        • ptbnl Feb 18,2014 2:20 pm || Up
          If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
          • Future Ed Feb 18,2014 3:35 pm || Up

            that is why he stopped using commas.

            there in the body he writes “10.000”

            SOmeone give him 10 bucks and now he is pissed.

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
  21. andeux Feb 18,2014 2:12 pm
    TINSTAAFK
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 18,2014 2:48 pm || Up

      Note to Lew Wolff: Endow a small university department. Have them publish a study on the benefits of franchise relocations of < 50 miles. .... Profit!

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • AV Feb 18,2014 7:29 pm || Up

      we can assess a man’s endurance performance by looking at his face.” And you can turn that around:

      so… we can face a man’s endurance performance by looking at his ass?

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • andeux Feb 18,2014 7:50 pm || Up

        Moneybutt (at ** in the old days) was way ahead of its time.

        TINSTAAFK
  22. FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 18,2014 2:46 pm
    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • sslinger Feb 19,2014 11:48 am || Up

      I had just read that article when I saw this. It’s one of the reasons we were thinking of moving but that doesn’t look like it’s going to happen any time soon. Between that and the construction of the new parking lot on Gayley where Maxwell Family Field (formerly Kleeberger for those of us old-timers) is situated, the next year or so is going to suck around here. Plus waiting for the inevitable plans to put a building where upper Hearst parking is, now that they have the 450 new spaces on Gayley. The only redeeming feature is that Soda Hall is butt ugly, and this new building will hopefully block the view of it from Ridge. And, as always, gotta love the last line of the piece:

      It does not require city approval.

  23. Future Ed Feb 18,2014 3:56 pm
    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Glorious Mundy Feb 18,2014 4:21 pm || Up

      Sent it to Pocket and will read later.

    • Future Ed Feb 18,2014 6:24 pm || Up

      Wait, so the angels are going to get better by being the cardinals? like teaching pitchers to use a curveball telling hitters to be more like trout and less like Brandon Wood?

      What is OBS?

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Future Ed Feb 18,2014 6:25 pm || Up

      and is that scott servise pitcher or catcher

      Also warning autoplay!

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 18,2014 6:29 pm || Up

      See, more evidence that there is no clown shortage.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  24. FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 19,2014 12:25 am

    Relevant to MikeV’s call to treat prospects like humans: MLB sued over wage and working condition violations against minor league players.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • batgirl Feb 19,2014 11:12 am || Up

      They should wait a few months and they can cite Raiderettes v. Raiders.

      • ptbnl Feb 19,2014 8:33 pm || Up

        One of the BenGals is already suing.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  25. dmoas Feb 19,2014 4:39 pm

    I was REALLY hoping this was some kind of Onion article. Shit. I’m STILL hoping it’s an Onion article. Because if not, they keep raising the bar of just how fking stupid they can fking be.

    • doctorK Feb 19,2014 4:49 pm || Up

      Here’s the back story on why this guy is an idiot.

      • colin Feb 19,2014 6:37 pm || Up

        “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!”
        -Upton Sinclair

      • dmoas Feb 20,2014 11:24 am || Up

        But Rocky Mountain Power, the utility that operates the plant, has determined that it would be too expensive to retrofit the aging plant to meet new federal standards on mercury emissions. The plant is scheduled to be shut by April 2015.

        See, this sort of thing bugs the shit out of me. We have two options:

        1) We attempt to convince the world to look the other way environmentally and basically sound like a fking idiot doing so.
        OR
        2) We attempt to create legislation that will help finance these sorts of retrofits so that our standards can be met without putting people out of business.

        But hey, let’s fk commonsense and do #1.

        • nevermoor Feb 23,2014 10:42 am || Up

          3) We finance construction of new better plants that don’t burn coal.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  26. Glorious Mundy Feb 19,2014 6:41 pm

    Cespedes added 15 pounds of muscle? Um, where?

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 19,2014 6:58 pm || Up

      Maybe the soles of his feet and he’s now 5″ taller? Because otherwise yeah, I’m not sure more muscle helps him in anything but his mirror preening habit.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Future Ed Feb 19,2014 7:59 pm || Up

      forehead. to hold his eyebrows up

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • dmoas Feb 20,2014 11:25 am || Up

      His junk.

  27. FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 19,2014 7:14 pm

    Olympic Hockey semifinals on Friday: Finland vs Sweden at 3:30 AM our time, US vs Canada at 9:00 AM our time, live on NBCSN. I will be recording the latter and avoiding the internet all day until I get home after work. Which may mean I actually have to do work that day. A sacrifice I’m willing to make.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  28. FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 19,2014 7:37 pm
    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • MikeV Feb 19,2014 10:36 pm || Up

      piercing!

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

    • AV Feb 19,2014 11:46 pm || Up

      OTOH, “new york minute”… you just got upstaged by vermont!

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • elcroata Feb 20,2014 2:45 am || Up

      As usual, Sal is on top of it

      A lot of you are posting the “How long does sex last” by state study (http://newsfeed.time.com/2014/02/19/sex-map-which-states-do-it-longest/). It is a great teaching moment for statistics. In the picture below, I have plotted the state population on the x-axis and the “sex time” on the y-axis. You will notice that the shape of the data resembles a funnel. States with a lower population, toward the left side of the plot, tend to have times that are on the high and low end. The most populous states tend to have times that are closer to the overall average.

      This is purely due to a phenomenon related the size of the sample. The smaller the population, the fewer data points are used to determine the time. That means that a few outliers can cause the time for a low-population state to skew high or low. For a high population state, a few outliers can’t change the results by nearly as much, so their times tend to cluster toward the middle.

      If you take anything away from this study, don’t believe that some states are more or less amorous than others. The real lesson is that size *does* matter. Sample size, that is.

      Because survival is insufficient
      • ptbnl Feb 20,2014 8:08 am || Up

        Same thing in cosmology … one visible universe, infinite variance.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  29. Glorious Mundy Feb 19,2014 8:25 pm

    WTF, Phillies? That’s messed up.

    • Future Ed Feb 19,2014 8:58 pm || Up

      assholes

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • lenscrafters Feb 19,2014 9:08 pm || Up

      Yeah when you have a chance to be a dick just to be a dick, you gotta take it.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 19,2014 9:17 pm || Up

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • elcroata Feb 19,2014 9:55 pm || Up

      The NCAA has not yet ruled on Wetzler’s case, which has been pending since November.

      They did, however, form a blue ribbon panel

      Because survival is insufficient
    • Dial C for Concupiscence Feb 21,2014 3:26 pm || Up

      Yes, burning bridges and general assholery is how good business is done

  30. FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 19,2014 9:16 pm

    I can’t adequately describe this story so I’ll just link it. K-it-Forward: How dozens of psychotic gearheads not only kept a wretched Chrysler K-Car running, but drove it back and forth across the country for a whole year, enough miles to circumnavigate the globe, to race it 20 times.

    The plan at the beginning of the year was to crush the K after the season, donating the scrap value to charity. My plan was to leave it, keys in the ignition, on Lee Iacocca’s front lawn in Bel Air, ring his doorbell, and run. Instead, Chris Overzet of Pit Crew Revenge Racing volunteered to take the car and keep racing it in 2014.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  31. FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 20,2014 10:27 am

    The Slusstress says that MLB is considering having the A’s open the 2015 season in Taiwan.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Future Ed Feb 20,2014 12:06 pm || Up

      I hate that.

      I love the idea of opening in Taiwan, but MLB does such a shitty job of it. No, I don’t want 2 games then the same two teams a week later at home. PLay clevelan in Taiwan, fine, then play the angels the next week. don’t give me the mariners for 2 then the Mariners for 2 more. That is bullshit

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • Glorious Mundy Feb 20,2014 12:12 pm || Up

        They’re doing it your way this year. The Dodgers and Diamondbacks open in Australia, and then come home to play the Padres and Cubs, respectively.

      • andeux Feb 20,2014 12:19 pm || Up

        I hate it for other reasons. It’s a junket for the team and press, in return for an opening game that most fans can’t see live. And they even could make the timing work out reasonably (1 PM in Taiwan = 9 PM PT) but they don’t.

        TINSTAAFK
        • dmoas Feb 20,2014 2:24 pm || Up

          Or do it over a weekend where staying or getting up early to see it isn’t so conflicting.

          • Glorious Mundy Feb 20,2014 2:26 pm || Up

            How about just broadcasting it live in Northern California whenever they play it? That would be a marked improvement over last time.

            • FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 20,2014 2:31 pm || Up

              I thought they did do that; I had the weird and wonderful experience of watching Yoenis hit his first A’s home run when I woke up to pee in the middle of the night. Or was it all just a dream?

              "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
              • Glorious Mundy Feb 20,2014 2:37 pm || Up

                I think MLB Networks carried the Mariners broadcast of one game, and the other wasn’t on locally at all or was tape delayed or something? Either way, I was asleep.

                • dmoas Feb 20,2014 2:42 pm || Up

                  I think it was tape delayed. Definitely not live if at all.

                • 5Aces Feb 20,2014 2:55 pm || Up

                  I’m pretty sure GM is right one the M’s game. I remembe someone having a sig with something to the effect of “back to back middle of the night get up and pee jacks”..

                  Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
                • FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 20,2014 3:02 pm || Up

                  That was my comment-turned-tagline. That’s why I assumed it was shown live, since I saw it at something like 3:00 am our time (following evening in Tokyo).

                  "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
                • Future Ed Feb 20,2014 4:41 pm || Up

                  I was awake for 2008(?) and I watched, but had no access to 2012. If ity was not blacked out on mlb.tv, I would get up and watch

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • Glorious Mundy Feb 20,2014 4:44 pm || Up

                  I watched 2008, but I was living on the east coast so the time was kinda perfect. I wasn’t going to pass up the opportunity for breakfast with Rich Harden.

  32. FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 20,2014 12:29 pm

    Vote Nerd Power! Matched up versus Posey in the next round.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  33. Glorious Mundy Feb 20,2014 12:30 pm

    Score a small one for San Jose:

    • dmoas Feb 20,2014 2:25 pm || Up

      Huh. I’m actually really surprised by that. It says absolutely nothing about anything, but maybe there are few A’s fans in the Circuit who want this shit over with as much as the rest of us.

  34. batgirl Feb 20,2014 2:10 pm

    What is up with these skaters and their music? Suddenly a Prince song I’ve never heard gets skated to by not one, but (2!) skaters in the same Olympics? And then the Pink Floyd?…

    The San Jose girl is adorable, the other two Americans were meh, and man can that Yuna Kim skate the heck out of a routine.

    • Glorious Mundy Feb 20,2014 2:14 pm || Up

      I was amused during the Ice Dancing finals how the also ran pairs were skating to stuff like Michael Jackson medleys and the Les Miserables soundtrack. I commented to my wife, “How can these idiots not have chosen some famous Russian ballet piece? There wouldn’t be a dry eye in the house!” Of course the groups that medaled did just that.

    • 5Aces Feb 20,2014 2:59 pm || Up

      Are you telling me you have not memorized the soundtrack from Graffiti Bridge? Ok, lets be honest, I love Princ and you couldn’t pay me to sit through that awful movie again.

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
      • batgirl Feb 20,2014 3:40 pm || Up

        OK you’re officially my new go to guy for Prince info. Can you explain why two people chose that song at the same Olympics. Is it getting re-issued?

        Oh, and I almost forgot that gawd awful Santana medley that one of the ice dancing pairs skated to in the teams competition.

        • 5Aces Feb 20,2014 3:51 pm || Up

          FK just ate my comment.

          In summary; no clue, I cant imagine why they would reissue that or why you would choose that song to do anything to.

          Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  35. FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 20,2014 4:18 pm

    Very serious article about the dangers associated with fraternities. But the opening paragraph is hilarious:

    One warm spring night in 2011, a young man named Travis Hughes stood on the back deck of the Alpha Tau Omega fraternity house at Marshall University, in West Virginia, and was struck by what seemed to him—under the influence of powerful inebriants, not least among them the clear ether of youth itself—to be an excellent idea: he would shove a bottle rocket up his ass and blast it into the sweet night air. And perhaps it was an excellent idea. What was not an excellent idea, however, was to misjudge the relative tightness of a 20-year-old sphincter and the propulsive reliability of a 20-cent bottle rocket. What followed ignition was not the bright report of a successful blastoff, but the muffled thud of fire in the hole.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • batgirl Feb 20,2014 4:46 pm || Up

    • Englishmajor Feb 20,2014 8:52 pm || Up

      I was curious to find out what happened to Mr. Hughes, but Google hasn’t helped me yet. By an interesting coincidence, though, there is a Travis Hughes who used to pitch for the Rangers, and there is a Travis Hughes who edits an SB Nation blog.

      • ozzman99 Feb 24,2014 9:40 pm || Up

        I’m just going to assume they’re all the same guy.

        • Future Ed Feb 24,2014 9:43 pm || Up

          my kids alway want me to call chris young when they see the name in my phone. i have lost count how many times i told them its not the one they are thinking of. blows their mind

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • ozzman99 Feb 24,2014 9:49 pm || Up

            You should probably call the guy once just to prove it to them. It’s obvious your children think you’re a liar.

            • 5Aces Feb 24,2014 11:24 pm || Up

              Let me call first. I have a few choice words to say to that guy…

              Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  36. Future Ed Feb 20,2014 5:21 pm
    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  37. lenscrafters Feb 20,2014 9:17 pm

    I know we have some Aledmys Diaz fans on here and apparently the A’s feel the same way.

    • elcroata Feb 20,2014 10:04 pm || Up

      Yay

      Because survival is insufficient
    • dmoas Feb 21,2014 11:35 pm || Up

      I can’t see how him being a short stop is that big a deal. If a guy can stick there he could just as easily slide left or right. And let’s face it, everyone needs one.

  38. Englishmajor Feb 20,2014 9:28 pm

    Speaking of pitchers and catchers, is anyone going to spring training? I am going to be there next week Tues-Sun.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 20,2014 9:50 pm || Up

      Lucky duck! Have fun, and say goodbye to Phoenix Muni for Me. Only went there once, and enjoyed myself immensely, despite the terrifying fact that it was Law Enforcement Appreciation Day with special guest Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • brian.only Feb 20,2014 11:22 pm || Up

      Jealous! If only the law enforcement didn’t hate the tanned folk…

    • DFA Feb 21,2014 10:24 am || Up

      Im trying to get assigned to negotiate a contract out there so I can partake.

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
  39. colin Feb 21,2014 10:34 am

    Let’s get our hopes up again!

    • dmoas Feb 21,2014 11:36 pm || Up

      From not quite a prospect but some scout thought he was a bad ass to a batting practice pitcher. How far the mighty has fallen.

  40. andeux Feb 21,2014 12:29 pm

    No Hatte this year. 20 games of Shooty instead. Arneson thinks that’s an improvement. I don’t see why.

    TINSTAAFK
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 21,2014 12:44 pm || Up

      It really depends on which parts of his repertoire Shooty brings to the booth. When he confines himself to actual insights into the specific actions involved in playing baseball which he has from his own playing days, Shooty can be informative. Stuff like fielding balls, body momentum, what a hitter looks for out of the pitcher’s hand, and so on. But too often in the studio Shooty takes the next step into voodoo crap like playing the game the right way. That Shooty Babbitt would be much, much worse than Hatteberg.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Future Ed Feb 21,2014 1:16 pm || Up

      at least 162 of Vince.

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • Glorious Mundy Feb 21,2014 2:18 pm || Up

        I miss Vince. I’m sure I won’t be saying that in a couple of weeks, but for now, I miss Vince.

    • dmoas Feb 21,2014 11:37 pm || Up

      Oh dear god no. No. NOOOOO. I can’t stand him.

  41. Future Ed Feb 22,2014 7:44 am

    Cruz—>Baltimore 1/8

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • andeux Feb 22,2014 9:03 am || Up

      After turning down a qualifying offer (1/$14M) from Texas and supposedly also 5/$75M from Seattle. Wow.

      TINSTAAFK
      • Future Ed Feb 22,2014 9:26 am || Up

        my fantasy is drew holds out till june and the A’s sign him

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • dmoas Feb 22,2014 10:16 am || Up

          At this point the O’s will sign all of the untouchables. It’s not like it’s going to hurt them anymore now.

    • lenscrafters Feb 22,2014 11:22 am || Up

      Darn, I would’ve loved to have Cruz for that amount.

      • andeux Feb 22,2014 11:23 am || Up

        Even giving up a pick?

        TINSTAAFK
        • lenscrafters Feb 22,2014 11:41 am || Up

          It would hurt, but I place a lot of value on present wins in a competing year. Cruz seems pretty clear to be an upgrade over Barton/Vogt. And there’s a chance you can always recoup some of the value through getting a QO pick from him next year since it’s just a one year deal or through a midseason trade. Plus, the A’s are picking 25(?) next year so it’s not too big of a loss to me.

          • Future Ed Feb 22,2014 11:49 am || Up

            But Barton/Vogt aren’t the AB losers here. Its taking away AB/fielding times from Crisp/reddick/cespedes/crisp/jaso.

            Sure, two of barton/vogt/giminez doesnt make the team, that’s fine but it hurts defensively.

            It doesn’t make sense for the A’s at almost any price.

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
            • lenscrafters Feb 22,2014 11:54 am || Up

              I don’t see any way Cruz takes time away from those guys you listed unless they suck or they’re injured, which is likely to happen anyways. And since Gentry can’t fill in all time, it’d make more sense to have someone like Cruz who could also back up the fragile outfield than I dunno, Michael Taylor.

              • Future Ed Feb 22,2014 11:59 am || Up

                If the A’s go through cespedes, reddick and crisp I would think that Moss and vogt would get time in the outfield and barton goes to first.
                I don’t see cruz’s projected 7 runs of offense asbetter than doing nothing.

                I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • lenscrafters Feb 22,2014 12:02 pm || Up

                  Yeah, Moss and Vogt in the OF with Barton at first seems pretty bad to me if you’re trying to compete. YMMV

                • Future Ed Feb 22,2014 12:05 pm || Up

                  it no doubt is, but at that point, cruz is not going to help you.

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • lenscrafters Feb 22,2014 12:12 pm || Up

                  The team will likely suck yes, but it’s suck with a fighting chance if you have Cruz over Vogt at least.

                  I don’t understand how you could be for Drew but vehemently against Cruz. You realize Cruz and Drew are projected for the exact same WAR in ZiPS? It seems pretty clear to me that the Barton/Vogt contingent is worse than the Lowrie/Callaspo/Sogard/Punto contingent. And Drew almost certainly will cost more than 1/8 along with the draft pick.

                • Future Ed Feb 22,2014 4:31 pm || Up

                  drew would be replacing sogard’s bat and lowries glove, I think that is about 2 wins right there, the same as cruz’s projected WAR, but cruz would be taking ABs away from jaso, crisp (and therefore gentry in the field) cespedes and callaspo. I am guessing that is a group that will produce 1-2 WAR at DH, so the baseline would be higher.

                  I am not advocating signing Drew at his current asking price, but I am saying Drew is a better value to the A’s than Cruz at any price.

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • lenscrafters Feb 22,2014 4:42 pm || Up

                  Yes, if you look at it as Cruz replacing the good players on the team, then it doesn’t look like an upgrade. I look at it as Cruz replacing Jaso at DH and Jaso replacing Vogt at catcher.

                • andeux Feb 22,2014 5:05 pm || Up

                  If the lineup is Jaso DH/Vogt C, it’s because they’ve decided Jaso’s too much of a health risk to catch anymore.

                  TINSTAAFK
                • lenscrafters Feb 22,2014 5:11 pm || Up

                  That’s what I thought this offseason too, but recent comments indicate the A’s are open to Jaso catching.

          • DFA Feb 22,2014 12:11 pm || Up

            Why wouldn’t he learn from this year’s experience and take the QO next year?

            In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
            • lenscrafters Feb 22,2014 12:16 pm || Up

              Unless he gets suspended again, I don’t think this year’s experience is entirely relevant.

              • DFA Feb 22,2014 12:22 pm || Up

                I just don’t think suspensions hurt market value that much. See Peralta, jhonny.

                In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • lenscrafters Feb 22,2014 12:32 pm || Up

                  You may be right but it’s hard to know for sure. For instance, we can’t be certain that Peralta wouldn’t have gotten more than he did if he hadn’t been suspended.

                • DFA Feb 22,2014 3:41 pm || Up

                  I mean Melky Cabrera got a 2 year 16m contract after his PED suspension. Would he have gotten more if he didn’t juice? of course.

                  But that isn’t the point. The point is that either A) his performance was supported by PED and he won’t be clearly worth the offer B) His performance was not affected enough by PED that a 34 yo defensively challenged slugger who already had a bad experience turning down Qualifying Offers decides that he is going to forgo 14m guaranteed for 1 year to seek multi year deals

                  I would be much more money on A)

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • lenscrafters Feb 22,2014 4:31 pm || Up

                  I’m not quite clear on what you’re trying to say here.

                  In any case, my point is a simple one. Whether or not Cruz accepts a QO depends on a lot of factors, foremost of which I think are his performance this year, whether or not he’s suspended again, and how the outfield market looks next year.

                  What happened to him this offseason is definitely a factor as well, but it’s still just one factor out of many, so I’m not certain either way as you seem to be.

                • DFA Feb 22,2014 9:11 pm || Up

                  I just really think that expecting a 34 defensive black hole to turn down 14m is unrealistic so adding value to his acquisition based on that if falsely tipping the scales in cruz’s favor.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • lenscrafters Feb 23,2014 11:25 am || Up

                  So unrealistic…except that it just happened right now.

                • Future Ed Feb 23,2014 11:33 am || Up

                  next year he will be older, the QO will be closer to $15M. I will be surprised if he turns one down from anyone.

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • lenscrafters Feb 23,2014 11:49 am || Up

                  Those are factors sure, but I doubt an extra year and an additional ~1 million or so in QO money matters more than say, the strength of next year’s outfield market. Which is incidentally terrible: the best OF available is Alex Rios but he has an option.

        • Future Ed Feb 22,2014 11:43 am || Up

          Someone on twitter opined that with the pick, Cruz should have gotten 1/2.5 or something. If the A’s were to waste a pick, Drew is a much better upgraded than the a DH

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • Future Ed Feb 22,2014 11:45 am || Up

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
            • lenscrafters Feb 22,2014 12:00 pm || Up

              I’d be interested to see how this breaks down. ZiPS projected Cruz for 1.6 WAR (in Texas, though I doubt his Baltimore projection would be hugely different). Given 6.5-7 million $/WAR, does this mean ZiPS sees the 55th pick as worth around 8 million or so? That seems off to me.

              • DFA Feb 22,2014 12:21 pm || Up

                why does that seem off? The increased dollar value of $/WAR it also increases the value of the pick. Esentially they are valueing the 55th pick at 1.15 WAR which seams reasonable.

                In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • lenscrafters Feb 22,2014 12:35 pm || Up

                  Draft picks are rising in value sure, but what teams are willing to pay on the major league free agent market per WAR is not likely the same as projected WAR from a draft pick.

                • DFA Feb 22,2014 3:02 pm || Up

                  Im confused then

                  Value of draft pick = Expected WAR of draft pick * Average cost of WAR

                  If the cost of the Average Cost of WAR increases the Value of the draft pick increases, the value of the draft pick increases.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • lenscrafters Feb 22,2014 4:33 pm || Up

                  You’re using the average cost of WAR on the free agent market and applying it to draft picks. Because of risk and whole lot of other factors, that seems like an inaccurate use of the statistic.

                  To use an example, the projected value of a number one overall pick is what, 25 WAR? That doesn’t mean teams are paying 150 million dollars to their number one overall picks.

                • DFA Feb 22,2014 9:19 pm || Up

                  Actually thats how everybody does it… here is an article where Silver does that

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • lenscrafters Feb 23,2014 11:23 am || Up

                  …did you even bother to read the article?

                  Silver is using $/Per WAR for free agents (“Market Value”) as just one of the factors to calculate the actual value of a draft pick. In his article, he calculated the total Market Value of a Tier One draft pick as 30 million dollars (that’s your “Value of the draft pick = Expected WAR of draft pick * Average Cost of WAR”).

                  But notice he didn’t stop there. He subtracted the Marginal Cost (this is key, teams don’t have to pay cost controlled players the same as free agents) and factored in depreciation because of uncertainty (which results in “Gross Present Value”). The actual value of the draft pick is that tidy little number at the end of the column (“Net Present Value”). You’ll notice it’s a lot less than Market Value by itself.

                  So going back to your example of the draft pick worth 1.15 WAR…The projected WAR’s Market Value is around 7 million or so. But the actual value of the draft pick can only be figured out once you subtract for the marginal costs and depreciate.

                • DFA Feb 23,2014 1:42 pm || Up

                  The marginal cost change is negligible since the MLB minimum isn’t rising significantly

                  Year

                  Min
                  Salary

                  Diff

                  % of
                  Increase

                  2007

                  $380,000

                  $53,000

                  16%

                  2008

                  $390,000

                  $10,000

                  3%

                  2009

                  $400,000

                  $10,000

                  3%

                  2010

                  $400,000

                  $0

                  0%

                  2011

                  $414,000

                  $14,000

                  4%

                  2012

                  $480,000

                  $66,000

                  16%

                  2013

                  $490,000

                  $10,000

                  2%

                  2014

                  $500,000

                  $10,000

                  2%

                  2015

                  ??

                  ??

                  ??

                  2016

                  ??

                  ??

                  ??

                  Note: 2015-2016 will be at least $500,000 plus a cost of living adjustment (COLA)

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • lenscrafters Feb 23,2014 2:26 pm || Up

                  Marginal costs include more than the minimum. It includes arbitration projections (which will rise as market value rises) and other related costs.

                  Marginal Cost represents the salary and related costs to be paid to that player, which we estimate as a fixed sum of $500,000 in his first service year, $750,000 in his second, 31% of his Market Value in Year Three, 44% of his Market Value in Year Four, and 61 and 64% of his Market Value in Years Five and Six, respectively.

                  How convenient of you to ignore that though.

                • DFA Feb 23,2014 2:51 pm || Up

                  Which while not being controlled for in the CBA, there hasn’t been a rash of higher than normal arbitration awards either.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • lenscrafters Feb 23,2014 3:11 pm || Up

                  I have no idea what you mean by higher than “normal”, but because they are a percentage of market value, the flat costs of arbitration are higher now as market value has clearly risen.

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