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Wednesday Morning Grillounge, 7/31 344

We could use a mini-postlet to fill the morning until the game starts.

Today’s discussion topic (likely for PTBNL’s circular file):   The Copenhagen interpretation should actually be described as the Copenhagen process, because it is in essence, the process of interaction between conscious will and infinite (yet functionally finite from the view of the observer) possibility.  The Copenhagen process is the process of focusing on/interacting with one or more, but less than infinity, spacetime streams as represented in Many Worlds theory.

Try thinking about them as complimentary ideas rather than competitive ones…  Does this make other pieces of the puzzle plausibly fit better?

 

Today’s secondary topic:  I propose that from now on the words “ascension” and “consensual” be spelled “ascention” and “consentual”, because verbally, people seem to say the second “s” in the word as a “tch” sound rather than a “sh,” and I think it sounds better than dropping the “t” for an “s”

 

344 thoughts on “Wednesday Morning Grillounge, 7/31

  1. JamesV Jul 31,2013 8:33 am

    This is probably more opulent than any professional locker room and team facility I’ve ever heard of:

    http://deadspin.com/oregons-new-football-performance-center-is-a-decaden-975295515

    • doctorK Jul 31,2013 8:55 am || Up

      That is obscene.

    • PDXAthleticsfan Jul 31,2013 9:01 am || Up

      Mr. Knight, can I have $5,000,000?

      A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
      • MikeV Jul 31,2013 9:18 am || Up

        Let’s be honest, it won’t matter to him…

        And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

        Thanks, and go As.

    • nevermoor Jul 31,2013 9:34 am || Up

      Helps when you don’t need to pay the players.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • Glorious Mundy Jul 31,2013 10:01 am || Up

      Absolutely disgusting.

    • batgirl Jul 31,2013 10:14 am || Up

      Gawd I hope we kick their asses this year.

    • aardvark Jul 31,2013 10:23 am || Up

      heh

      Here is where the team will hold press conferences, and where the Galactic Security Council will be meeting to discuss interstellar politics:

    • DFA Jul 31,2013 10:33 am || Up

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
    • beebo Jul 31,2013 12:09 pm || Up

      Incoming student loan bubble burst in 3…2…

    • Soaker Jul 31,2013 5:05 pm || Up

      I’d honestly be happy if the 15 or 20 huge football factory programs broke away from the NCAA and formed a semi-professional mega football conference, with the rest of us playing at a lower level but retaining most of the student-athlete ideal that you still largely see in the NCAA outside of FBS football and power conference basketball.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • Bed Jul 31,2013 5:07 pm || Up

        Hey if that happens then maybe KU can win like 3 or 4 games a year.

        But seriously, folks....
  2. aardvark Jul 31,2013 9:32 am

    Some additional analysis on the Callaspo-Green swap over at BP.

    • DFA Jul 31,2013 9:52 am || Up

      any tidbits for us nonsubscribers about their outlook for Green?

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
      • aardvark Aug 2,2013 10:38 am || Up

        Sorry for the late answer:

        While he has shown some over-the-fence pop during his minor-league tenure, those power spikes have come in home run-friendly environments, and the odds are that Green will be a much larger doubles threat as a major leaguer—particularly in the spacious Coliseum.” Or a spacious Angel Stadium.

        This comes from an article on Green from earlier in the month that was quoted:

        Green has improved his production in the field through reps and instruction, but the strongest catalyst for the positive growth may have been the simple switch off the six-spot. At shortstop, his range was pushed at the margins, often leading to hurried actions and imperfect execution. He is a more deliberate defender at second, but has enough athleticism and body control to make the necessary pivots, and his lower half works well enough to cover the necessary ground without sacrificing his ability to finish.

  3. lenscrafters Jul 31,2013 9:54 am

    Morse is available. Please get him, Billy.

    • Kay Jul 31,2013 10:06 am || Up

      2:54 to go…

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
    • Glorious Mundy Jul 31,2013 10:14 am || Up

      I’m not convinced he’s healthy enough to be an upgrade over Freiman or CY.

      • lenscrafters Jul 31,2013 10:38 am || Up

        I’m willing to take the risk since healthy CY25 and Freiman aren’t any good anyways.

  4. elcroata Jul 31,2013 10:03 am

    2. I’m all for spelling it asunción

    Because survival is insufficient
  5. doctorK Jul 31,2013 10:07 am
  6. andeux Jul 31,2013 10:10 am

    I’ve never understood why “spatial” rather than “spacial” is the preferred spelling.

    TINSTAAFK
    • Kay Jul 31,2013 10:14 am || Up

      Yeah! Add that one to the list. I like “spacial.”

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
    • DFA Jul 31,2013 10:19 am || Up

      dfa version

      I’ve never understood why “spatial” rather than “spacial” any order of letters is the preferred spelling.

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
      • MikeV Jul 31,2013 10:20 am || Up

        Yeah but you type with your elbows!

        And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

        Thanks, and go As.

        • DFA Jul 31,2013 10:22 am || Up

          mostly they aren’t typos, just misspellings

          In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
          • dmoas Jul 31,2013 10:42 am || Up

            still false.

            • DFA Jul 31,2013 4:19 pm || Up

              and you would know this how?

              In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
              • dmoas Jul 31,2013 4:58 pm || Up

                Because I know you’re *not* an idiot and some of the typos are so bad that I’d have to believe you’re a complete fking moron to genuinely look at and still think they’re correct.

                • DFA Jul 31,2013 6:20 pm || Up

                  There are plenty of learning disabilities related to spelling which do not affect other cognitive abilities.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • dmoas Jul 31,2013 8:12 pm || Up

                  Yes. But mistaking “the” for “that” is more a sign of laziness and/or an unwillingness to proofread. Both of which I fully endorse.

                • DFA Aug 1,2013 1:13 pm || Up

                  I don’t believe that I do that often.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • dmoas Aug 2,2013 4:09 pm || Up

                  More often that you think… (sorry, had to)

  7. DFA Jul 31,2013 10:14 am
    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
    • batgirl Jul 31,2013 10:17 am || Up

      Close only counts in horseshoes and vaginas.

    • JamesV Jul 31,2013 10:21 am || Up

      That was amusing.

    • elcroata Jul 31,2013 10:46 am || Up

      Is that satire or real?

      Because survival is insufficient
      • ptbnl Jul 31,2013 10:49 am || Up

        All too frighteningly real.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
        • elcroata Jul 31,2013 10:51 am || Up

          It does sound as a badly written satire, though, especially this passage:

          “Hell, I was close,” said Perry, shrugging to the crowd in the room as he was shuffled out of the room speaking back over his shoulder.

          “It’s all about protecting unborn life not about where some gal’s body parts are. I knew it was there somewhere…” he could be heard saying as his voice trailed off into the hallway.

          Because survival is insufficient
          • the dogfather Jul 31,2013 11:56 am || Up

            “Oops” — but for somebody who can’t find his own ass with both hands, I think he did pretty well. I also suspect he’s not the first man ever to say “I knew it was there somewhere,” although not in that precise anatomical context.

            The meaning of life is not so much found, as it is Made. -- Opus
      • JamesV Jul 31,2013 11:20 am || Up

        It’s satire.

  8. MikeV Jul 31,2013 10:18 am

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

    • Kay Jul 31,2013 10:23 am || Up

      See you in Sac for the stretch run, Rosie!

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
    • dmoas Jul 31,2013 10:42 am || Up

      I still can’t not read his name as Collapse-oh.

      • Glorious Mundy Jul 31,2013 10:45 am || Up

        The two things I think of when I read his name are “collapso” and the story of him putting a hot dog bun and condiments on Erick Aybar’s junk. I am hoping this will change soon.

        • dmoas Jul 31,2013 10:48 am || Up

          Blinks. He did what??!!!

        • andeux Jul 31,2013 10:49 am || Up

          I had not heard that story.

          TINSTAAFK
          • Glorious Mundy Jul 31,2013 10:57 am || Up

            I read it in a Baseball Prospectus chat maybe five years ago, and it’s been one of those “cannot unsee” images ever since.

            • Dial C for Concupiscence Jul 31,2013 11:27 am || Up

              Well, thanks for spreading it then.

              • Glorious Mundy Jul 31,2013 12:23 pm || Up

                All must suffer.

                • Kay Jul 31,2013 12:34 pm || Up

                  but some will suffer more or less than others…

                  \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
        • elcroata Jul 31,2013 10:53 am || Up

          Yup, I read the Odd man out – very amusing…

          Because survival is insufficient
          • Soaker Jul 31,2013 10:57 am || Up

            It was enjoyable to read and funny, but there were a lot of allegations that McCarthy stretched the truth or just plain made shit up.

            What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  9. andeux Jul 31,2013 10:51 am

    My boss is taking us to the game today. I think I’m the only one (out of seven) who knows or cares at all about baseball.
    But I have to give my Brazilian co-worker credit for his green and yellow “BRASIL” shirt with a piece of tape as an apostrophe between the A and S.

    TINSTAAFK
    • ptbnl Jul 31,2013 10:54 am || Up

      Excellent!

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • elcroata Jul 31,2013 11:01 am || Up

      very cool. picture?

      Because survival is insufficient
    • AV Jul 31,2013 12:34 pm || Up

      [pukes] [apologizes for being such a prejudiced country-ist but goddammit we’re less than a year away from the cup and it’s time to draw lines] [isn’t able to help it and pukes again]

      i guess he can’t help it either if he was born there, for the rest of you, please keep in mind… a’stralia is green and yellow too. and they’re not the yankees of international soccer. thanks for listening.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • elcroata Jul 31,2013 12:35 pm || Up

        So, I guess you were not celebrating Rienzo’s debut in the MLB?

        Because survival is insufficient
      • Glorious Mundy Jul 31,2013 12:40 pm || Up

        Envy is unbecoming, irmão.

        • AV Jul 31,2013 12:55 pm || Up

          i never claimed it was a pretty puke. not sure it’s envy though. is it envy what makes us puke every time we see the adoration of the jeter? i’m asking honestly because it’s the same sort of feeling.

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
          • Glorious Mundy Jul 31,2013 1:02 pm || Up

            I see, it’s the impression of Brazil’s supposed stylish play vs. Argentina’s, er, pragmatism, that rankles. I guess it is sort of silly that people treat recent Brazil teams as if they are heirs to 1982, 1970 and 1958 when now they play just as ugly as anyone else at times. I’m not a neutral on this one though(and I’m not really bothered by Jeteration, more amused), so I don’t know how to evaluate the feeling exactly.

            • AV Jul 31,2013 2:00 pm || Up

              that’s another angle where it seems to me it’s not envy. i’m personally embarrassed by the cheating and dirty play. hand of god is its own thing, not sure how to evaluate it anymore. but as part of a whole culture predicated with getting away with one, it’s there right along with what i’m marking as the hopefully last public airing of that soiled boxer, when el burrito ortega headbutted the dutch goalie in 98 (heinze slapping the camera in 08 was silly, but i can forgive the act as one of those things, even while recognizing that heinze is one of those holdover players of the old school). so, while i’m fully hoping for and loving any move toward a gentler, better argentine national soccer character, aided by messi and tevez and agüero and anybody out there playing somewhat correctly (above the sense of soccer skill), i don’t ever say, oh i wish argentina played more like brasil. it’s more like oh i wish the world realized just how like argentina brasil actually is. (i don’t think we can talk about sports er-pragmatism in this decade without mentioning sao paulo’s libertadores final, with stadium-paid security officicers breaking into the visiting locker room at half time to, allegedly, threaten the team with, allegedly, guns.)

              so what i’m boiling it down to now that i’m thinking about it, is how everybody who only knows a teaspoon worth of soccer/baseball claims dearly, when pressed, to love brasil/yankees, and how the generic soccer shirt is brasil just like the generic baseball cap is NY. and that just bugs me–perhaps there’s envy in there, but it’s not the totality of the feeling.

              and the actual brasileiros i know and interact with, i love them. in fact, i see no difference between them and the argentines i know and interact with. (except they talk funny.)

              *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
              • Glorious Mundy Jul 31,2013 5:27 pm || Up

                I hear you, although I would say that the generic soccer shirt these days is a Messi shirt.

                • AV Aug 1,2013 7:13 pm || Up

                  i want to believe you more than i believe amazon (so please upgrade your analytics?)

                  actually now that i’m seeing this the second time for the day, it looks like their analytics are pretty spotty/just want to give you reasons to buy stuff. the ranking has changed wildly here since i first found the links this morning. but still…

                  best sellers.

                  wish list.

                  gift ideas. please note the early inculcation via children’s sizing…

                  i also checked the baseball equivs, and funny enough, the top 30 or so generic baseball jerseys were actually generic. the first team that popped up was orioles. the orange V neck!

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • DFA Jul 31,2013 4:23 pm || Up

        How are they the yankees. They don’t buy players the birth them.

        In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
        • AV Aug 1,2013 7:22 pm || Up

          you probably gathered my meaning from the other leg of this thread, but i want to show you i didn’t make this metaphor up.

          highbrow.

          lowbrow. (my proof is in the last comment… because you can’t tell if she’s talking about brazil or the yankees.)

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
          • DFA Aug 2,2013 11:27 am || Up

            I know you didn’t make it up. I just think it is silly. I don’t hate the Yankees because they win. I hate them because they are rich. I like the Braves a lot because they are smart and win.

            In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
            • AV Aug 3,2013 2:55 pm || Up

              huh. but, just because the list of things that make brazil like the yankees doesn’t coincide with the main reason you hate the yankees, that doesn’t mean there isn’t a list of things that make brazil like the yankees.

              here’s one that’s kind of neat to think about: pele and babe ruth similarly established the dynastic stature of their teams in an early golden age of the respective sports and establishing those franchises’ trajectories toward success in the future, while re-defining individual name-brand sports superstardom toward how we know it today.

              *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
              • elcroata Aug 3,2013 3:02 pm || Up

                True. But no announcers shouted Babeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee after one of his homeruns

                Because survival is insufficient
                • AV Aug 3,2013 11:39 pm || Up

                  only because he didn’t rip off his jersey and slide home on his knees with his fists in the air after each one he hit!

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
              • DFA Aug 5,2013 5:52 pm || Up

                Im not saying you don’t get to hate them, nor would they not be natural dynastic teams. Ionno, I just don’t think that with Countries you can hate them the same way as teams that can acquire players.

                In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • AV Aug 5,2013 6:32 pm || Up

                  oh geez DFA. you’re too busy trying to fit this into your construct to hear what i’ve said.

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • DFA Aug 6,2013 9:32 am || Up

                  ugg, this was suppose to me trying to say that I get your construct, but I personally don’t use that construct when thinking about national teams rather than professional teams, shrug.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • DFA Aug 6,2013 9:33 am || Up

                  I would be interested in understanding why if that dichotomy for me has any impact on your thinking about it.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • AV Aug 6,2013 9:52 am || Up

                  because you haven’t engaged with the elements i brought up. not on their own terms toward whether they are a valid way to say the teams are alike. you just keep bringing in this other element, tacked on to things i didn’t say (hate? i’m still analyzing envy over there and you just jumped me into full hate… and then making this hate thing a valid reason to think teams are alike or not… project much?), and you are trying to make my metaphor rely entirely on that one aspect, only because that aspect is important to *your* thinking.

                  (which is fine, i’m not discounting your thinking. what i’m saying is it’s a separate point, the differences, and they don’t necessarily cancel the vast similarities.)

                  so what i’m asking is, suspend that idea of business model differences. just hold on to it. it might still fit in even. but first listen to the way the teams are alike and then see how that difference nuances the ideas.

                  in my babe ruth thing above, i was sorta giving you an opening to insert the financial planning side. the trajectory of the yankees as bankees begins with or can be traced through the ruth era. ruth gave them monetary capital. this snowballed into more victory and more money into more victory and more money. and in that sense, we see a similarity with brazil, perhaps not in “buying” players, but they certainly have something that they have snowballed into power. maybe we can identify what that is (is it cultural capital?), see how it snowballed, and compare even further.

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • DFA Aug 7,2013 7:37 am || Up

                  Ok this makes much more sense to me now. I don’t envy the Yankees, I hate them. I wouldn’t want to be the corporate overlords. I wouldn’t want the A’s to be the richest team in the land with ten thousand dollar seats. Hell I don’t even want them to get their new ballpark. The only player I was sad that left was Tejada so even on that angle I don’t really care. Thats why I was subscribing hate, because I didn’t see the envy connection.

                  If the A’s won all the time because they were just good like in the early 2000s and built a dynasty that would be awesome.

                  Though the whole, I don’t follow soccer but LOVE BRAZIL would be annoying.

                  Im not sure that the cultural capital works that way. Yes Im sure Pele helped solidify soccer as the national sport and galvanize the talent stream, but I don’t really fault them for that.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • AV Aug 7,2013 10:19 am || Up

                  yeah, i don’t know how cultural capital works either. but there’s gotta be some way to explain that phenomenon. other than “nothing succeeds like success.”

                  and i don’t fault the teams per se, i sorta fault the beyond-bandwagon fans if anything.

                  i don’t know that my sports feelings can actually go all the way to “hate” but if i can adjust the curve to say that if there’s any team i do hate it’s the yankees. as a test, i can’t think of a team i’d root against if they were playing the yankees. (wait, maybe the giants if it came to the WS. do i hate the giants?? i might!) 1998 final, i rooted for brazil against france. (france won, just to spite me.)

                  but i’m glad we got to a point where we’re actually having a conversation about it. thanks. although now i think we’ve covered everything.

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • elcroata Aug 7,2013 10:22 am || Up

                  Because you were pissed that France eliminated Croatia?

                  Because survival is insufficient
                • AV Aug 7,2013 10:26 am || Up

                  see? l’assholes.

                  (i don’t hate them.)

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • elcroata Aug 7,2013 11:05 am || Up

                  Neither do I, of course. However, I wish Thuram picked another moment to discover the magic of scoring goals.

                  Because survival is insufficient
                • DFA Aug 7,2013 2:36 pm || Up

                  Why are there so many really good Dominicans in baseball?

                  I think there is something to like with Brazil in that while its power is growing it isn’t a politically powerful country and they are damn good. I usually root for England because of heritage, but I rooted for Germany when they had Kahn because he was a bad ass and I was a goalie as a kid. But I like Brazil.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • AV Aug 8,2013 9:58 am || Up

                  BECAUSE THEY CHEAT IN COLLUSION!

                  just kidding.

                  i keep going back to thinking that cultural capital applies. there’s a bit of “cultural capital acts as a social relation within a system of exchange that includes the accumulated cultural knowledge that confers power and status” when you hear “can’t walk off the island.”

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
                • AV Aug 8,2013 10:05 am || Up

                  this pic’s rad.

                  source.

                  *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  10. Glorious Mundy Jul 31,2013 10:52 am

    Whut

    • dmoas Jul 31,2013 12:02 pm || Up

      Waving the white flag with Cruz leaving them?

      • Glorious Mundy Jul 31,2013 12:28 pm || Up

        More like looking for his replacement, I’m guessing.

      • Kay Jul 31,2013 12:35 pm || Up

        Moneyballing a sellers’ market just in case anyone bites on something that will improve the Rangers for this season AND the future…

        \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
  11. lenscrafters Jul 31,2013 11:17 am

    Ian Kennedy -> Padres for Joe Thatcher, a relief prospect, and a compensation pick.

    <2 hours to go but this is quite a dull deadline.

    • Bed Jul 31,2013 11:41 am || Up

      It usually is.

      But seriously, folks....
    • dmoas Jul 31,2013 12:03 pm || Up

      Additional Wild Card + No More Draft Picks when receiving Type A/B mid-season and losing them + increased value of prospects.

  12. elcroata Jul 31,2013 11:40 am

    no more ESPN America in Europe :(

    Because survival is insufficient
    • Bed Jul 31,2013 11:44 am || Up

      I imagine ESPN can’t be too happy about that…I’m sure they want to rule the European sports media market as much as they already rule America’s.

      But seriously, folks....
      • elcroata Jul 31,2013 11:48 am || Up

        A pay TV provider Sport1 US bought a lot of rights from them, but no baseball. So, that was it for watching baseball on TV.

        Because survival is insufficient
        • Bed Jul 31,2013 11:50 am || Up

          It’s too bad baseball fans all over the world can’t just order the MLB package like we can…and being where you are you’d never have to worry about being blacked out because you were in the Kansas City Royals territory.

          But seriously, folks....
          • elcroata Jul 31,2013 11:55 am || Up

            Yeah. I have the MLB.tv internet package, so I can still watch all the games on my PC, but watching it via WD-TV, Blue Ray player or X-box on TV is still pretty buggy, and I liked having it on TV and just crashing on the couch.

            Because survival is insufficient
            • Glorious Mundy Jul 31,2013 12:23 pm || Up

              Mlb.tv works well on my Apple TV device. You might consider it.

        • elcroata Jul 31,2013 12:21 pm || Up

          No more baseball, but we get Indy car. I know you like it, bed, but this is a rotten deal…

          Because survival is insufficient
          • Kay Jul 31,2013 12:36 pm || Up

            thoroughly rotten.

            \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
  13. Bed Jul 31,2013 11:42 am

    So I went on Grantland to check on the trades…they have something about a blind surfer and The Backstreet Boys so I’m up to date on all the trade rumors.

    But seriously, folks....
  14. Bed Jul 31,2013 11:52 am

    I’d like to see the non-waiver trade deadline get moved back to August 31st…with the multiple wildcards now teams are in the race longer so there are less sellers this early.

    But seriously, folks....
    • Kay Jul 31,2013 12:03 pm || Up

      or August 15th at least…

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
  15. the dogfather Jul 31,2013 12:03 pm

    Am I this first person to comment on this resemblance?

    Scary.

    The meaning of life is not so much found, as it is Made. -- Opus
    • PDXAthleticsfan Jul 31,2013 12:12 pm || Up

      As in “the leaders of two empires that have seen better days” scary?

      A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
      • elcroata Jul 31,2013 12:21 pm || Up

        As in “the leaders who conspire to get some of the most prominent names in their empires off the landscape”?

        Because survival is insufficient
        • PDXAthleticsfan Jul 31,2013 12:23 pm || Up

          asvd.

          A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
    • Kay Jul 31,2013 12:37 pm || Up

      The rapelling elf vs Public Enemy no. 1 of Queers everywhere… hmm…

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
    • Bed Jul 31,2013 5:39 pm || Up

      I’d have to see Cashman shirtless holding the body of a dead bear over his head while on a horse to know if they really looked alike.

      But seriously, folks....
  16. nevermoor Jul 31,2013 12:18 pm

    Our condo closed today. Happy times.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • elcroata Jul 31,2013 12:19 pm || Up

      Enhorabuena!

      Because survival is insufficient
    • PDXAthleticsfan Jul 31,2013 12:21 pm || Up

      Most awesome. Meanwhile, the rental property I own got an offer yesterday and will undergo inspection tomorrow. I am very much looking forward to getting that place off of my list of things to worry about.

      A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
      • nevermoor Jul 31,2013 12:40 pm || Up

        cool, congrats.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • Bed Jul 31,2013 5:40 pm || Up

      I loved the condo I had in Little Rock, enjoy the new place.

      But seriously, folks....
  17. MikeV Jul 31,2013 12:37 pm
    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

    • Kay Jul 31,2013 2:11 pm || Up

      I thought this was going to be a link to a sad story about a pimp who paid his hoes in cannabis, but it turned out to be far less interesting than that.

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
  18. lenscrafters Jul 31,2013 12:37 pm

    Stros keep selling.

    Bud Norris -> O’s for LJ Hoes and another piece
    Justin Maxwell -> DMGM for SP prospect Kyle Smith

    • nevermoor Jul 31,2013 12:40 pm || Up

      Odd on the second one.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • Glorious Mundy Jul 31,2013 1:21 pm || Up

  19. elcroata Jul 31,2013 12:46 pm

    What do you see as more probable in the next two years:

    1. Encarnacion falls of the cliff and/or is busted for PED
    2. Sale breaks down

    Because survival is insufficient
  20. 5Aces Jul 31,2013 12:57 pm

    Help!!! Calling any lawyers and/or DFA for thoughts (for the record I am pretty sure this is not any of your focus but as alays I know you FKers know everything).

    So newbadboss at evil empire, Inc. Wants to give our non-union time sheet call center employees control over their daily lunch and break times. They can change it to start basically at any time.

    Now having done this stuff for a long time, I think I know that labor law states that a person must be given a meal period by the start of the fith hour for shifts of 6 hrs or longer. Newbadboss believes that if the employee themselves decides to take their lunch later than that that there is no legal issue. Basically that the law is designed to protect employees from evil empire, not from themselves.

    He agreed that our HR folks would say letter of the law, but he wants to proceed his way unless he can be convinced otherwise.

    Thoughts? If the idea that “they choose to take a late lunch” enough to let a company off the hook, in general?

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • the dogfather Jul 31,2013 1:10 pm || Up

      Google is your friend. For CA law, “Brinker” is your case. Cal Chamber has pretty good, employer-centric coverage.

      Pretty sure I’d amend your para3 to read start “end” of the fifth hour, fwiw.

      The meaning of life is not so much found, as it is Made. -- Opus
      • 5Aces Jul 31,2013 1:13 pm || Up

        thanks. Quite honestly I have bno care about ir going either way and would prefer boss to be told to stop. But I will go where the info takes me.

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • Soaker Jul 31,2013 1:19 pm || Up

      Pretty thorough coverage of the issue here. I’m guessing newbadboss won’t be around long, once evil empire, Inc.’s corporate lawyers get wind of his act.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • 5Aces Jul 31,2013 1:27 pm || Up

        So how bad of a person am I if I remain ignorant and wait til the complaints come into HR? (I was the first one to remind them of CA labor laws so I havent ducked the issue…)

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
        • Soaker Jul 31,2013 1:40 pm || Up

          Up to you of course, but if you’re fed up with Evil Empire anyway and are willing to go through the legal process, you might find the settlement from getting yourself fired over this to be quite remunerative.

          What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
          • nevermoor Jul 31,2013 1:50 pm || Up

            My advice, which is not legal advice because I don’t represent anyone involved, is that you should not pretend you don’t know about the rule. If you say what you know and they overrule you, that’s one thing. If you don’t, there are potential complications you wouldn’t want any part of.

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
            • 5Aces Jul 31,2013 1:58 pm || Up

              That sounds reasonable. And since I am not listened to, its practible too.

              Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
              • DFA Jul 31,2013 4:38 pm || Up

                I agree with the above advice.

                I would tell bad bosses boss and just say you believe that shitty boss is exposing the company to a lot of liability and that he over ruled you.

                In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
  21. JamesV Jul 31,2013 1:40 pm
    • beebo Jul 31,2013 2:46 pm || Up

      “Go back inside and drink some coffee!” and/or “Go back inside and lose some weight!” = pure, solid gold

  22. AV Jul 31,2013 2:10 pm

    kay bait. interview with my lawyer aunt speaking about a 6-year-old’s request for gender reassignment. i checked the google translate version and it’s good enough to get most of it.

    *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  23. Glorious Mundy Jul 31,2013 2:27 pm
  24. Bed Jul 31,2013 4:27 pm

    I know what you’re thinking…there’s a movie out there that stars Dirk Benedict, Charles Nelson Reilly, Billy Barty and “Rowdy” Roddy Piper and yet it won no Oscars…what can I say? Sometimes life just isn’t fair.

    But seriously, folks....
    • Kay Jul 31,2013 5:54 pm || Up

      Reilly was totally my fave to win the “Best Deceased Actor, Non-Zombie Role” award, but no… it went to Tupac’s holograph instead.

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
      • Bed Jul 31,2013 6:12 pm || Up

        and then Biggie’s hologram shot him.

        But seriously, folks....
  25. Bed Jul 31,2013 4:36 pm

    I bought two laptops today at Best Buy…I have a feeling a few years from now when I buy the next batch of computers that Best Buy won’t exist.

    But seriously, folks....
    • MikeV Aug 1,2013 12:13 pm || Up

      Did you need them like right this very second, or did you have the ability to wait a few days?

      Reason I ask is because Best Buy generally has shitty laptops at expensive laptop prices.

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

      • Bed Aug 1,2013 12:27 pm || Up

        I still like to look at things like computers in person if I can. Especially this time since we’re switching to Apple laptops.

        But seriously, folks....
        • MikeV Aug 1,2013 12:31 pm || Up

          condolences.

          And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

          Thanks, and go As.

        • Kay Aug 1,2013 3:29 pm || Up

          I think this is a bad time to switch to Apple. They seem behind the curve.

          \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
        • dmoas Aug 2,2013 4:10 pm || Up

          You can play with it there and then buy it for cheap online.

          • Bed Aug 3,2013 11:06 am || Up

            I don’t think you can by Apple laptops cheap anywhere.

            But seriously, folks....
            • dmoas Aug 3,2013 11:14 am || Up

              I did when I had to buy one a few years back. You just have to look.

            • MikeV Aug 3,2013 10:23 pm || Up

              student discount is about all you’re gonna get

              And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

              Thanks, and go As.

        • Englishmajor Aug 10,2013 10:35 am || Up

          You’ll love them. And it doesn’t hurt to pay full price, although I’m partial to the refurbished Apple Store stuff myself.

  26. Bed Jul 31,2013 4:41 pm

    The trade deadline is a lot like political conventions…a lot of hype and not much happens.

    But seriously, folks....
    • DFA Jul 31,2013 6:21 pm || Up

      would have said a lot of people talk and get nothing done

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
  27. Bed Jul 31,2013 5:05 pm

    So I guess the biggest difference between a Lounge and a Grillounge is there’s a lot less Sheena Easton in the Grillounge.

    But seriously, folks....
    • Kay Jul 31,2013 5:53 pm || Up

      I thought the biggest difference was the amount and quality of blow?

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
  28. Bed Jul 31,2013 5:06 pm

    My posts in today’s Grillounge make more sense if you read them in the voice of Ted Levine.

    But seriously, folks....
    • Kay Jul 31,2013 5:53 pm || Up

      I’ve got Ted McGinley and Adam Levine. Can’t I just make a mash-up?

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
      • Bed Jul 31,2013 5:56 pm || Up

        It seems like the thing to do.

        But seriously, folks....
  29. Bed Jul 31,2013 5:26 pm

    I’ve always thought the “b” in subtle is very subtle.

    But seriously, folks....
    • Kay Jul 31,2013 5:53 pm || Up

      It’s a “t” in drag.

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
      • AV Aug 1,2013 7:25 pm || Up

        she’s pregnant!!!

        also, the wkw in awkward is awkward. is there an onomatopoeia-like word for this?

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  30. Bed Jul 31,2013 5:55 pm

    My body clock is still all off…it’s the only thing I don’t like about traveling…well, that and when I see my Visa bill after a trip.

    But seriously, folks....
    • Jennifer Jul 31,2013 6:20 pm || Up

      Oh. There’s an L in that word.

      • Bed Jul 31,2013 6:22 pm || Up

        Yep, this is a family Grillounge broadcast.

        But seriously, folks....
  31. Bed Jul 31,2013 5:58 pm

    If the NSA is reading this…I have to ask? Don’t you have better things to do?

    But seriously, folks....
  32. Bed Jul 31,2013 6:00 pm

    Up next a series of posts about all the whacky things that happened in June and an in depth breakdown of Curt Young’s career WHIP.

    But seriously, folks....
  33. Bed Jul 31,2013 6:05 pm

    So you walk into a party in Washington DC and the first thing you see is Morgan Freeman giving Katie Couric a foot massage do you…

    A. Go up to Mr. Freeman and say how much you loved him in The Shawshank Redemption
    B. Go up to Ms. Couric and say how much you enjoyed her on The Today Show
    C. Take a picture and post it on footmassage.com
    D. Grab a chair and sit down next to them and just stare
    E. All of the above while also getting drunk and talking to Steve Forbes about the flat tax

    But seriously, folks....
    • DFA Jul 31,2013 6:22 pm || Up

      False.

      Ask Morgan Freeman to say Tittie Sprinkles.

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
    • beebo Jul 31,2013 8:53 pm || Up

      I am scared to look at footmassage.com

  34. Bed Jul 31,2013 6:08 pm

    I like to think anyone having sex with Alex Trebek hums the Jeopardy theme song during the act to give him guidance.

    But seriously, folks....
    • Soaker Jul 31,2013 6:18 pm || Up

      You have 30 seconds…Good luck!

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  35. Bed Jul 31,2013 6:08 pm

    What two teams would have the lowest rated World Series?

    But seriously, folks....
    • Soaker Jul 31,2013 6:19 pm || Up

      Royals vs. Pirates.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • Bed Jul 31,2013 6:23 pm || Up

        Rays vs. Padres

        But seriously, folks....
        • Soaker Jul 31,2013 6:33 pm || Up

          That would have an AL East connection. A’s vs. Padres would do worse than that.

          What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
          • Bed Jul 31,2013 6:38 pm || Up

            Well, I think the A’s have a slightly bigger national profile but it’s marginal. If we go by book sales I’m guessing Moneyball sold more than that book by Jonah Keri did.

            But seriously, folks....
            • Glorious Mundy Jul 31,2013 6:40 pm || Up

              Michael Lewis is a big deal.

              • Bed Jul 31,2013 6:42 pm || Up

                He’s a really good and popular writer…and Moneyball had a more interesting hook too. I had trouble getting through the Keri book, I thought it was dull.

                But seriously, folks....
                • Soaker Jul 31,2013 6:51 pm || Up

                  Liar’s Poker is superb, and very tip-of-the-iceberg foresightful.

                  What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
                • Bed Jul 31,2013 6:54 pm || Up

                  I’ve enjoyed all his books…he can take almost any subject and make it interesting.

                  But seriously, folks....
    • Jennifer Jul 31,2013 6:22 pm || Up

      The Wizards and Packers.

      • Bed Jul 31,2013 6:29 pm || Up

        The Wizards would really have to hit a lot of 3’s to hang with the Packers no huddle offense.

        But seriously, folks....
    • DFA Jul 31,2013 6:23 pm || Up

      Rays and Padres?

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
  36. Bed Jul 31,2013 6:23 pm

    Today’s specials at the Grillounge…

    Liver and onions, chipped beef on toast and snark about Marky Mark.

    But seriously, folks....
    • Jennifer Jul 31,2013 6:24 pm || Up

      I love chipped beef on toast. There’s no joke here.

      • Bed Jul 31,2013 6:29 pm || Up

        No one and I mean no one jokes about our love of chipped beef on toast.

        But seriously, folks....
  37. Bed Jul 31,2013 6:26 pm

    Since Ted McGinley was mentioned in today’s Grillounge the Grillounge has been canceled by CBS…his show killer ways continue.

    But seriously, folks....
  38. Bed Jul 31,2013 6:40 pm

    Are there any shows you hate watch?

    But seriously, folks....
    • Jennifer Jul 31,2013 6:44 pm || Up

      Most of them.

      • Kay Jul 31,2013 7:37 pm || Up

        yup.

        \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
    • Glorious Mundy Jul 31,2013 6:46 pm || Up

      By Season 3, Downton Abbey.

    • Bed Jul 31,2013 6:50 pm || Up

      By episode 3 of the first season of The Newsroom I was hate watching it…I watched the first two episodes of the new season and I’m hate watching it more than ever. Sorkin peaked TV wise with The West Wing I think. I keep telling myself to stop but I’ve watched everything Sorkin has ever done…I’m just kind of hoping the show doesn’t have a long run.

      But seriously, folks....
      • Glorious Mundy Jul 31,2013 6:51 pm || Up

        The pilot of that show was so unbelievably dumb that I couldn’t imagine watching another minute of it, even to mock it.

        • Bed Jul 31,2013 6:52 pm || Up

          It’s really one of the worst shows ever…and yet, I’ve seen every episode…I need help…oh, please someone stop me!

          But seriously, folks....
          • Ice Cream Jul 31,2013 11:08 pm || Up

            I’ve watched every episode, too, and yes–it is horrible. Horrible show. And horrible that I watch it. I can’t stand the unreal rapid-fire dialogue between characters. (Though I did like this gem from last week: “Snark is the idiot’s version of wit.”) I can’t stand the interpersonal relationships and how they’re written and how the characters are presented as so smart and yet are so dumb! Come to think of it, that’s Sorkin in a nutshell. (And agree with you that The West Wing was his zenith.)

            Where is the good in "good-bye"?
            • Bed Aug 1,2013 8:06 am || Up

              We need to start a support group…Just Say No To The Newsroom

              But seriously, folks....
            • nevermoor Aug 1,2013 9:00 am || Up

              I like the fast dialogue. I find it aspirational.

              And the mimosa bit was fantastic.

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
              • Bed Aug 1,2013 9:27 am || Up

                I will say this the show is at it’s best when Jeff Daniels is on screen.

                But seriously, folks....
                • DFA Aug 1,2013 1:17 pm || Up

                  He does a really great job with it.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • harensheir15 Mar 9,2014 10:00 pm || Up

                  Pretty much this whole subthread, but this especially.

                • harensheir15 Mar 9,2014 10:02 pm || Up

                  Also, I appreciate their attempt to reunite the original cast of God of Carnage. Now if they get the fourth and final member, that would really be something.

            • DFA Aug 1,2013 1:15 pm || Up

              They are so sappy.

              In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
        • nevermoor Jul 31,2013 7:38 pm || Up

          It’s conceited and generally plotless, sure. But I enjoy getting my liberal “newscasters should speak truth” beliefs fluffed. Even clumsily.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • Kay Jul 31,2013 8:35 pm || Up

            No wonder Dan Rather likes that show so fking much…

            \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
          • beebo Jul 31,2013 8:59 pm || Up

            I like that they included the iNews wire service alert beeps (which I sometimes hear in my head when I’m about to go to sleep now), but hearing them say “sots” as “S-O-T-S” annoys me.

      • DFA Aug 1,2013 1:14 pm || Up

        I felt this way with Studio 60

        In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
      • AV Aug 1,2013 7:29 pm || Up

        the newsroom (canadian) rules. and when sports night came out, it seemed like a total ripoff of the concept, just lighter. there’s a full circle in there somewhere.

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • MikeV Aug 1,2013 12:16 pm || Up

      Seinfeld. God, what a fucking boring pile of shit of a show.

      Yeah, I know.

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

      • Bed Aug 1,2013 12:33 pm || Up

        Seinfeld is one of those shows that a lot of people love and a lot of people hate. I loved it but I have several friends who think it was terrible.

        But seriously, folks....
      • Kay Aug 1,2013 3:30 pm || Up

        High five! ALL the characters were unlikeable, and I just don’t get off watching the antics of narcissistic jerks, unless they’re wearing baseball uniforms, of course!

        \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
        • PDXAthleticsfan Aug 1,2013 3:33 pm || Up

          Right there with you. I also spent the vast majority of the Seinfeld years actively trying to avoid mainstream TV/other media or in foreign lands, so it was pretty easy to not get sucked in.

          A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
          • AV Aug 1,2013 7:38 pm || Up

            i liked seinfeld, but i might nominate curb you enthusiasm as a hate-to-watch. every episode relies on an increasing levels anxiety EASILY put aside if the dude just told a single, simple, and not all that awful of a truth. but i can’t actually say i hate to watch it really because i never do.

            *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
            • Dial C for Concupiscence Aug 2,2013 2:05 pm || Up

              I can agree with this. Shows that rely on anxiety for humor rarely appeal to me for long. I get too uncomfortable.

  39. Glorious Mundy Jul 31,2013 6:48 pm
    • Bed Jul 31,2013 6:53 pm || Up

      Is that site based on that political guy who passed away?

      But seriously, folks....
      • Glorious Mundy Jul 31,2013 6:54 pm || Up

        Yep. He’s a brand name now. When you see the name Breitbart, you know you’re getting the real dumb and/or hateful stuff. Accept no substitutes.

    • Future Ed Jul 31,2013 6:54 pm || Up

      comments.

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • andeux Jul 31,2013 6:55 pm || Up

      So I started reading that.
      At first it seems like maybe he’s going to try to invent WPA.
      But then instead he invents a stat that’s basically “allow fewer runs than your offense scores.”
      Then I stopped reading.

      TINSTAAFK
      • Soaker Jul 31,2013 6:58 pm || Up

        It seemed to be going in the direction of the Glen Kuiper statement a few years ago: “I’d rather have a pitcher who wins games 8-7 than one who loses games 2-1.”

        What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
        • Bed Jul 31,2013 7:04 pm || Up

          Wow…that’s one of the dumber sports statements I’ve ever read.

          But seriously, folks....
          • Soaker Jul 31,2013 7:08 pm || Up

            I’m guessing that’s doctorK who helped make it infamous.

            What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
        • JamesV Jul 31,2013 7:55 pm || Up

          Yeah, let’s talk about how that will chuck your bullpen into the depths of hell in no time.

    • elcroata Aug 3,2013 12:11 pm || Up

      I’ve seen a German movie called “Oh, boy” today. It was most excellent

      Because survival is insufficient
  40. elcroata Aug 1,2013 3:52 am

    Apparently you can’t just thaw a frozen shoulder.
    I had hoped for days, anticipated weeks, feared months and today finally heard the word year.
    The last time I had a surgery, I had to spend five weeks in bed due to post-surgery complications.
    The corticosteroids I have to take now are the same ones that finally did my father in.
    It also says that taking it may cause serious mental health problems, these affect around 5% who take such steroids.
    Yupi fucking yay.

    Because survival is insufficient
    • ptbnl Aug 1,2013 5:54 am || Up

      Sheesh – that sucks.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • Bed Aug 1,2013 8:05 am || Up

      I hope you’re able to find a solution.

      But seriously, folks....
    • Kay Aug 1,2013 8:49 am || Up

      Is not-operating and lessening your arm-oriented sporting activities an option, or is the pain too great?

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
      • elcroata Aug 1,2013 10:02 am || Up

        Not operating is preferred treatment in medical literature, so I learned. I am not doing any sports for 6 weeks now. I can literally not lift my elbow to the height of my shoulder.
        Look up frozen shoulder and you will see that it takes forever to cure, meaning that there is a good possibility I will not be able to do any sports for the rest of this year and good parts of the next one, if not the entire year. The doctor I spoke to today said that he knows a case that got operated and was back to full range of motion within 2 months, but that it is a risky operation.

        And as this also points to some sort of auto-immune disease (as my bouts with health in last couple of years and as my genetics), a smooth recovery is anything but a given for me.

        Because survival is insufficient
    • Future Ed Aug 1,2013 2:39 pm || Up

      not liking the sound of this

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • elcroata Aug 2,2013 1:59 am || Up

        Yup, neither do I. Here’s to hoping they’er all wrong

        Because survival is insufficient
        • elcroata Aug 3,2013 12:02 pm || Up

          And I’m still planing for that thing, you know.

          Because survival is insufficient
    • DFA Aug 1,2013 3:26 pm || Up

      Have you tried the defrost setting on your microwave?

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
    • Dial C for Concupiscence Aug 2,2013 2:08 pm || Up

      Oh yikes. I guess you can provide us firsthand accounts of returning to prior levels of performance after a shoulder injury? I’m sure CY25 would appreciate them.

      • elcroata Aug 2,2013 2:22 pm || Up

        Man, I miss sports so fucking much that once I’m back, I’ll beat all my records, I can just feel it :)

        Because survival is insufficient
    • dmoas Aug 2,2013 4:12 pm || Up

      Oof. I’ve spent a couple of days like that. Not sure I could ever handle a year.

      • elcroata Aug 3,2013 12:01 pm || Up

        You could. We always severely underestimate what we can go through, especially when there is no alternative. Having said that, I am absolutely, positively grumpy after even the 8 weeks so far. It’s not only missing sports, but I can’t even put on the shirt or pick up the ticket when entering a garage or similar stupid day to day stuff.

        Because survival is insufficient
        • elcroata Aug 3,2013 12:14 pm || Up

          And to finish off my bitching and moaning for today, to make things even worse, my right elbow and shoulder are completely acting up now. These are the ones that I always had aches and inflammations in when overusing, but now they are hurting (and making horrible sounds when using) without any activity, probably due to the fact that my whole posture is fucked up.

          Because survival is insufficient
        • Jennifer Aug 3,2013 12:21 pm || Up

          Don’t you have minions?

          • elcroata Aug 3,2013 12:34 pm || Up

            No, when it’s on, it’s maxi.

            Because survival is insufficient
    • Englishmajor Aug 10,2013 10:40 am || Up

      I’m just catching up on this now and so sorry to see this — but if it’s any comfort, my former boss had a frozen shoulder and made a complete recovery. It did take months, though.

    • oblique Aug 10,2013 2:13 pm || Up

      EC, I’m also just catching up, and I’m sorry to hear this. Some of what I know on frozen shoulders, from experience, in case it’s helpful:

      – My dad (age 75) has had two frozen shoulders for at least a decade. He was never able to achieve any success via treatment, so he’s basically stuck. But, he’s an older guy with very low muscle mass (he’s 5’6″, about 90-95 lbs – sorry for the SI units).

      – I got a frozen shoulder about 5 years ago, when I was age 34, as a result of swinging a vintage baseball bat and not letting go with my top hand on the follow through. I got the cortisone shot, which did nothing. I then went to a renowned sports physical therapy place nearby (on my own, without getting medical recommendation even from the orthopedist who gave me the cortisone shot), and the PT expressed confidence that we could get my range of motion back. Short story, through 2-3 months of some somewhat painful exercises, we did. My shoulder still isn’t perfect, it pops and makes noise some, but that’s mostly because I never work out – and I still have full range and it doesn’t hurt. When I do work out, the popping goes away pretty quickly. I’m thrilled with the outcome, and I played ball for the following 5 years with the same crappy swinging technique, with no pain or recurrence.

      So, it’s certainly something that can be overcome in some situations. My best advice is to find the best physical therapy you can.

      • elcroata Aug 10,2013 3:38 pm || Up

        Thanks, oblique, I’ll take that advice to heart.

        Because survival is insufficient
  41. elcroata Aug 1,2013 6:07 am

    San Francisco is #3, Stuttgart #6, but only because my patents are filed in California.

    Philips wins clearly, though

    Because survival is insufficient
    • ptbnl Aug 1,2013 6:24 am || Up

      Linked-through DFA bait (though surely appearing on a Forbes list excludes any neighbourhood from true hipsterdom)

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • nevermoor Aug 1,2013 9:13 am || Up

        “What we love about The Mission is the amazing diversity and lack of pretense…”

        Que?

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • ptbnl Aug 1,2013 9:43 am || Up

          Remember, it’s Forbes.

          If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • AV Aug 1,2013 7:46 pm || Up

        do they mention the hipster town of snoozeville? (note the date.)

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • AV Aug 1,2013 8:20 pm || Up

        huh. in my 2 years working and not working at 23rd/telegraph, i never once heard it called the uptown. (they saw the sign on the venue and thought it was the name of the whole area? not sure.)

        *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • DFA Aug 2,2013 11:28 am || Up

        Forbs thinks that anything slim fitting is hipster

        In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
    • nevermoor Aug 1,2013 9:03 am || Up

      I can’t see the name Eindhoven without thinking about Band of Brothers.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  42. elcroata Aug 1,2013 7:47 am

    Because survival is insufficient
    • Glorious Mundy Aug 1,2013 8:46 am || Up

      I’m just going to guess that at least one of Adam Rosales and Chris Young was involved in each of the six fails.

    • ptbnl Aug 1,2013 9:45 am || Up

      Is that this season? consecutively? in history?

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • elcroata Aug 1,2013 9:57 am || Up

        No idea.

        Because survival is insufficient
      • Future Ed Aug 1,2013 2:40 pm || Up

        ITS A RECORD!!

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • Dial C for Concupiscence Aug 2,2013 2:10 pm || Up

        My question too. But at least the A’s can approach history!

  43. JamesV Aug 1,2013 7:56 am

    Just FYI to Nevermoor:

    Sometime last night I started noticing some site slowdown along with the unread comments widget not always loading until I refreshed the site. It’s still going on for me.

    • JamesV Aug 1,2013 7:56 am || Up

      In Firefox, that is.

      • Bed Aug 1,2013 8:04 am || Up

        I’m in Chrome and it’s running really slow for me too.

        But seriously, folks....
        • JamesV Aug 1,2013 8:10 am || Up

          I should put this in the “New Thread” post. Doing so in a moment.

        • Jennifer Aug 1,2013 8:40 am || Up

          I’m in IE and it’s slow for me too.

    • nevermoor Aug 1,2013 9:15 am || Up

      It was definitely slow for me last night, though a bit better this morning.

      I’ll play with a couple things.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  44. elcroata Aug 1,2013 7:59 am

    Gabe Kapler is awesome. Here, I said it.

    Because survival is insufficient
    • Bed Aug 1,2013 8:05 am || Up

      He’s no Gabe Kaplan.

      But seriously, folks....
    • andeux Aug 1,2013 9:59 am || Up

      The Anderson/Reddick contrast sounds a lot like Beane/Dykstra from Moneyball.

      TINSTAAFK
    • MikeV Aug 1,2013 12:26 pm || Up

      Wait, Anderson is available and we haven’t snapped him up on a MLC yet?

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

  45. Bed Aug 1,2013 9:30 am

    The next time Netflix instant recommends a movie or TV show that I actually want to see will be the first time…right now it keeps showing martial arts movies and kids cartoons to watch…I dislike both genres.

    But seriously, folks....
    • MikeV Aug 1,2013 12:25 pm || Up

      They are apparently rolling out profiles finally, so that I won’t get recommendations for Power Rangers and my kids won’t get recommendations for Weeds and Kill Bill

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

      • Bed Aug 1,2013 12:29 pm || Up

        Good..what they have now is awful. It seems like the things I say I have no interest in are the types of things they recommend.

        But seriously, folks....
    • AV Aug 1,2013 7:55 pm || Up

      this helps to search, with its own drawbacks. though some of the drawbacks point right back at netflix, who doesn’t realize all kids rate their shows with 5 stars, just like any pre-80s TV show is 5 stars, just like those perfect movies that actually deserve 5 stars.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
  46. Bed Aug 1,2013 9:32 am

    What website do you hate read?

    But seriously, folks....
    • ptbnl Aug 1,2013 9:46 am || Up

      Halos Heaven, but only after particularly brutal loses.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • Dial C for Concupiscence Aug 2,2013 2:13 pm || Up

        That one is definitely schadenfreude based for me.

        Did you see their Grant Green writeup? The conclusion was that they basically got a guy with an above average bat and Zobrist-like versatility.

        • ptbnl Aug 2,2013 2:17 pm || Up

          Nope – only game wraps after the most brutal loses.

          If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
        • Future Ed Aug 3,2013 9:49 am || Up

          well, the bats major leagues use are made from a better cut of wood.

          And he has played several positions Zobrist has played.

          More of a CHone figgins to them, but I can’t compare green to figgins, because…oh yeah, Green is not black.

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • dmoas Aug 3,2013 11:15 am || Up

            Green also can’t play on the field either.

            • Future Ed Aug 4,2013 9:08 am || Up

              yup. And Zobrist can. Just like figgins could.

              I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Glorious Mundy Aug 1,2013 10:09 am || Up
    • MikeV Aug 1,2013 12:18 pm || Up

      Most of the SB Nation stuff after that last redesign. I would occasionally go look at NinersNation or MinorLeagueBall, but it’s just an awful layout now.

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

      • Glorious Mundy Aug 1,2013 12:23 pm || Up

        Most of the time when a site does a redesign, I bitch about it for a few days or weeks and then get used to it or even start seeing its merits. But every time I visit an SBN site to this day, I’m infuriated anew by how difficult it is to navigate and just how ugly it is. I assume it makes them more money somehow, but the user experience is just a complete disaster.

        • AV Aug 1,2013 7:58 pm || Up

          the new insidebayarea is a mess.

          SBN must have got a group deal on fonts because it uses… damn near all of them.

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
          • DFA Aug 2,2013 11:29 am || Up

            SBN must have got a group deal on fonts because it uses… damn near all of them.

            hilarious… potential tagline?

            In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
            • Dial C for Concupiscence Aug 2,2013 2:15 pm || Up

              Eh, I don’t need blatant SBN mentions as the first thing I see. It is a funny comment though.

              • nevermoor Aug 2,2013 8:23 pm || Up

                Agreed. Not a big fan of anti-SBN taglines (though it’s up to the group)

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • DFA Aug 2,2013 9:02 pm || Up

                  I am fine with this judgement

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • dmoas Aug 3,2013 11:16 am || Up

                  Me too, but damn if we did do that, that would have been perfect.

    • Soaker Aug 1,2013 12:23 pm || Up

      The proliferation of “slideshows” is infuriating. It seems like most newspaper sites have gone that direction in their latest desperate attempt at profitability.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • 5Aces Aug 1,2013 1:45 pm || Up

        I hate slideshows and videos. I want to red what I want to read. dont need 35 clicks of pics and 2 lines and I sure dont want to have a video blasting at my bad ears while im sitting on a conference call.

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
        • AV Aug 1,2013 8:16 pm || Up

          boomtown. teh worst. lazy as FK. gaaaaaah!

          here, i saved one that kinda killed me (hat tip EN).

          slide 2, OK baseball people, tell me how you know this photo was NOT taken in oakland. (“Did you know you can step out of your office and take BART directly to the Coliseum entrance? Now you know.” <--- not only did they not come here to take the pic, they are talking down to their fellow sanfranquisquers about how easy it would have been to do it!!!)

          *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
          • ptbnl Aug 1,2013 10:37 pm || Up

            They might have taken BART’s new Chicago extension.

            If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • Bed Aug 1,2013 12:32 pm || Up

      I’m getting to the point of hate reading Grantland…I’m still a big Simmons fan but he rarely writes anymore. I think Bill Barnwell is awful on football. Lowe is a good NBA writer, I’m not sure they even cover baseball. As for the pop culture stuff it’s usually pretty bad. So many of the stories are navel gazing trips to Snarkland.

      But seriously, folks....
      • Glorious Mundy Aug 1,2013 1:12 pm || Up

        That site is mostly a bunch of mediocre writers doing bad Simmons impressions. Lowe and Brian Phillips are the exceptions that keep me coming back.

  47. Soaker Aug 1,2013 12:27 pm

    Here’s the Fox map for Saturday’s game. With neither the Yankees nor Red Sox involved this week, the A’s game gets a bigger share.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • Glorious Mundy Aug 1,2013 12:32 pm || Up

      It’s interesting to see the parsing they do. They are obviously carrying our game in markets with potential AL wild card teams (Cleveland, Detroit, Tampa Bay, Boston, KC), but I would have thought that most of those cities would be more likely to tune in to see the Dodgers. Down East Maine getting a non-descript NL matchup is just bizarre.

      • Soaker Aug 1,2013 7:00 pm || Up

        That 506sports.com site posts the NFL maps every week as well, and on their forum these matters are debated at great length by people far nerdier than me (which usually takes some doing; not to rip them, though, as a lot of the TV/radio comments I make over here derive from posts on that forum). In most cases an odd distribution pattern has some logical explanation; for example, last season the CBS affiliate in San Francisco carried Indianapolis Colts games every chance they got because of the local tie-in to Andrew Luck. Usually Reno gets the same games as the Bay Area plus any blacked-out Oakland home games, but if there was a more attractive game than an Andrew Luck game we wouldn’t get the Colts. For this week, you are right that AL markets generally get the one AL game out of the three. Miami getting the Dodgers game might be explained by Cubans For Puig. Nobody has the foggiest why Bangor ME gets Braves-Phillies.

        What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
        • ptbnl Aug 1,2013 10:28 pm || Up

          A legacy from the old Boston Braves days, obviously.

          If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • 5Aces Aug 1,2013 1:47 pm || Up

      I dont like that cut. Am I going to be watching the Dodgers again?

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
      • Soaker Aug 1,2013 2:08 pm || Up

        KMPH in Fresno shows Rangers-A’s.

        What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • Jennifer Aug 1,2013 3:23 pm || Up

      YES! Finally!

  48. DFA Aug 1,2013 1:21 pm

    So this is what I do:

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
  49. Glorious Mundy Aug 1,2013 1:33 pm

    We recently bought a new pressure cooker and a new backpack on the internet. I wonder when my visit from these nice gentlemen will be coming.

    • nevermoor Aug 1,2013 2:01 pm || Up

      Geez. That picture alone says a lot about how insanely over-militarized the police are.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • Glorious Mundy Aug 1,2013 2:06 pm || Up

        I think that’s a stock photo, not from this supposed incident, but yeah.

  50. Kay Aug 1,2013 5:38 pm
    \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
  51. doctorK Aug 1,2013 6:38 pm

    Papsmear meltdown in progress in Philadelphia. I hate the Gnats, but the idea of Papeldouche blowing a game and being treated lovingly by the fans in Philly gives me a warm, satisfied feeling inside.

    • 5Aces Aug 1,2013 11:31 pm || Up

      He should leave as soon as he lets more than one runner on base. He isnt there for crap play like that…

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  52. ptbnl Aug 2,2013 12:13 am

    So to react to the discussion topic, if I understand correctly you are proposing a many-worlds interpretation in which a Copenhagen-observer makes some choice about which world to follow.

    The immediate problems I see with this are twofold:

    (i) in the many-worlds interpretation every world also contains the observer, so the observer has not chosen between worlds in any meaningful way.

    (ii) the moment of choice seems ill- or un-defined; if I’m watching a Geiger counter to see when a radioisotope decays I’m certainly not choosing when it should ping.

    But maybe I’ve misunderstood your proposal.

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • Kay Aug 2,2013 10:01 am || Up

      I don’t understand it either. Shaman and Math Whiz are the two most polar opposite languages on the planet, yet they both strive to describe nearly the exact same set of ideas.

      Maybe what I was trying to say is that quantum physicists’ visceral fear of how they would interpret reality if non-determinism and physical wavefunction collapse were proven to be true is getting in the way of further discovery, as is a proclivity to debate between ideas and theorems in an either/or fashion, rather than play intellectual games with the ideas and theorems, mixing and matching and throwing stuff against simulated walls to see what sticks.

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
  53. elcroata Aug 2,2013 6:28 am
    Because survival is insufficient
  54. elcroata Aug 2,2013 9:50 am

    Because survival is insufficient
  55. andeux Aug 2,2013 10:40 am

    Fangraphs has an interesting article/interview with Dan Straily on his development as a pitcher. (via Ken Arneson)

    TINSTAAFK
  56. andeux Aug 2,2013 10:45 am

    And Michael Lewis has a new article at Vanity Fair. Haven’t had time to read it yet, but as others said earlier in the week, his reporting on financial stuff is usually a good read.

    TINSTAAFK
  57. andeux Aug 2,2013 11:01 am

    !!!!

    TINSTAAFK
    • DFA Aug 2,2013 11:32 am || Up

      Hes salting.

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
    • nobody in particular Aug 2,2013 1:49 pm || Up

      Finally, an adequate power bat to replace the about-to-be-suspended Nelson “Juice” Cruz :D

      Never suck on a Blow Pop with the microphone open.
    • elcroata Aug 2,2013 2:07 pm || Up

      So, now that they have their utility infielder, they can give us Profar.

      Because survival is insufficient
      • PDXAthleticsfan Aug 2,2013 2:17 pm || Up

        That’s my hope.

        A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
    • Dial C for Concupiscence Aug 2,2013 2:18 pm || Up

      That seems spiteful.

    • Kay Aug 2,2013 2:33 pm || Up

      Noooooo!

      The ‘Cats needed him for the stretch run now that Green’s gone…

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
  58. mikeA Aug 2,2013 12:58 pm

    Their quest for a right handed bat finally succeeds.

  59. nobody in particular Aug 2,2013 3:06 pm

    So Kay, you can’t change that s to a t because you’d be taking the sensual out of consensual and we can’t have that.

    Never suck on a Blow Pop with the microphone open.
    • Kay Aug 2,2013 5:26 pm || Up

      Okay, then let’s change the word “consent” to “consense.”

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
      • Ice Cream Aug 2,2013 5:41 pm || Up

        Now you’re in the realm of consensus.

        Where is the good in "good-bye"?
  60. JamesV Aug 3,2013 2:01 pm
  61. JamesV Aug 8,2013 12:47 pm
  62. Kay Aug 11,2013 8:51 am

    For some reason, the guitar solos of Neil Young and Jimi Hendrix take me to the same soaring emotional spaces, albeit by nearly completely opposite means…

    \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
    • AV Aug 11,2013 9:41 am || Up

      i’m not goin’ back
      to woodstock for a while,
      though I long to hear
      that lonesome hippie smile.
      i’m a million miles away
      from that helicopter day
      no, I don’t believe
      i’ll be goin’ back that way.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
    • andeux Aug 11,2013 9:56 am || Up

      From Hank to Hendrix
      I walked these streets with you
      Here I am with this old guitar
      Doin’ what I do.

      TINSTAAFK
      • Kay Aug 12,2013 9:54 am || Up

        That was the first Neil Young song I ever heard, when he played SNL in 1992…

        \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
        • Future Ed Aug 12,2013 2:32 pm || Up

          this is bob Dylan to me

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • Kay Aug 13,2013 8:06 am || Up

            I was really into Dylan in 1992, but it was the lowest creative point of his career. Being introduced to Neil Young at that time was a highly appropriate godsend.

            \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
            • Future Ed Aug 13,2013 1:22 pm || Up

              I have $5. No I don\'t.

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