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And the question is: who was the first president to have sex in the Oval Office? Or was Clinton the only one?

Make your points and defend your arguments!

151 thoughts on “The Lounge Where I Pose A Question

  1. DFA Mar 25,2013 9:04 pm

    Kennedy fucked anything that moved and Marilyn Monroe moved at him.

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
    • aardvark Mar 25,2013 9:07 pm || Up

      That’s a compelling point. But you don’t think someone did it earlier?

  2. FreeSeatUpgrade Mar 25,2013 9:06 pm

    I assume they all did. If I’m President, I sure would…not much says badass gangsta more than getting laid in the oval office.

    I think I read somewhere once that Ladybird caught LBJ in the act of getting blown in the oval office.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • aardvark Mar 25,2013 9:11 pm || Up

      Millard Fillmore?

      • Future Ed Mar 25,2013 9:13 pm || Up

        You are thinking of Mallard Fillmore

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • aardvark Mar 25,2013 9:23 pm || Up

      • ozzman99 Mar 25,2013 11:20 pm || Up

        I highly doubt that Millard Fillmore ever blew LBJ, either in the Oval Office or anywhere else.

  3. Bed Mar 25,2013 9:06 pm

    Little know fact…The Oval Office is actually a triangle.

    But seriously, folks....
  4. Bed Mar 25,2013 9:07 pm

    I have no points to make worth defending.

    But seriously, folks....
  5. Soaker Mar 25,2013 9:09 pm

    Apparently the modern Oval Office was constructed during the Taft administration. I’d rather not think about that possibility, and Woodrow Wilson doesn’t seem like the type. Warren Harding had a reputation, though, so that’s my bet.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • aardvark Mar 25,2013 9:22 pm || Up

      You know, if you had to choose a president with the name for it. Harding

    • the llama Mar 25,2013 10:02 pm || Up

      Taft was known for giving up his seat on the bus for three women.

    • doctorK Mar 25,2013 10:38 pm || Up

      Heh, heh, you said Woodrow.

  6. Future Ed Mar 25,2013 9:09 pm

    who was the first president to have an oval office?

    there is your answer

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  7. Bed Mar 25,2013 9:16 pm

    I imagine we drive a lot of people away with all the posts we have on this site about baseball.

    But seriously, folks....
  8. Bed Mar 25,2013 9:25 pm

    I’m not sure I consider what Clinton and Monica did in the Oval Office even having sex. As far as JFK and LBJ go there’s no doubt they fooled around but everything I’ve read pointed to them doing it outside of the Oval Office.

    But seriously, folks....
    • andeux Mar 25,2013 9:28 pm || Up

      Depends on what the definition of is is.

      TINSTAAFK
    • the llama Mar 25,2013 10:02 pm || Up

      As far as JFK and LBJ go there’s no doubt they fooled around

      I…did not know that about them. NTTAWWT.

      • ptbnl Mar 25,2013 10:49 pm || Up

        There’s a FK and a BJ in there – how could they not?

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  9. Bed Mar 25,2013 9:28 pm

    With LBJ there’s the old story that he had bells put on certain doors so he’d know when Ladybird was on her way and he could clean things up. It should be said that when it comes to adultery he thought JFK was an amateur compared to himself.

    But seriously, folks....
  10. Bed Mar 25,2013 9:35 pm

    The only thing Nixon screwed in the Oval Office was the Constitution.

    But seriously, folks....
    • ptbnl Mar 25,2013 10:50 pm || Up

      And South-East Asia.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  11. Bed Mar 25,2013 9:42 pm

    Spoiler Alert for last night’s The Walking Dead…it turns out Bruce Willis was a zombie the whole time.

    But seriously, folks....
  12. the llama Mar 25,2013 10:03 pm

    Oval Office has no straight edges, which suggests that it has no point either.

  13. the llama Mar 25,2013 10:14 pm

    So it looks like I missed a total shitstorm a few days back. Did we permanently lose FKers?

    • ptbnl Mar 25,2013 10:50 pm || Up

      I think Kay was the only long-term casualty.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • the llama Mar 25,2013 10:57 pm || Up

        Too bad.

        One of the things that is surprising, in a good way, about this site is that whenever someone leaves in a huff everybody just accepts it and moves on. People change, and that’s kind of accepted with minimal drama around here. In other words, FK is bigger than any one of us in particular.

        • nevermoor Mar 26,2013 11:00 am || Up

          One of the bad things is that you abandoned us for so long.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • elcroata Mar 26,2013 11:04 am || Up

            truedat

            Because survival is insufficient
          • the llama Mar 26,2013 11:17 am || Up

            A few things:
            1. I don’t like posting from work.
            2. This year has sucked so far along a number of personal and health dimensions.
            3. I’ve decided that I can’t go on surviving on 6 hours of sleep, and I need to be more conscious about rest.
            4. I miss you all, too. Maybe I should get sick more often!

      • aardvark Mar 26,2013 9:10 am || Up

        Really? Looks like I missed it too. I’m gonna miss Kay.

  14. the llama Mar 25,2013 10:16 pm

    Are FKers going to be tailgating/drinking beer in the parking lot before opening night? As it turns out, I have the day off from work, so I might be able to come a little early and engage in some poor behavior in the parking lot. Any issues if any work friends of mine tag along?

    • DFA Mar 25,2013 10:23 pm || Up

      I will be.

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
    • Englishmajor Mar 25,2013 10:32 pm || Up

      There’s a huge tailgate going on from 1 pm, our usual suspects are joining in it. https://www.facebook.com/events/497611326941733/

      • Englishmajor Mar 25,2013 10:36 pm || Up

        And I took both Monday and Tuesday off.

    • MikeV Mar 25,2013 10:34 pm || Up

      That is my plan as well. I, too, have the day off work…

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

      • the llama Mar 25,2013 10:36 pm || Up

        That is…not surprising. I was going to take BART. If you are too, maybe we can carpool to Pleasanton if it makes sense.

        • MikeV Mar 25,2013 10:37 pm || Up

          BART? Me?

          And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

          Thanks, and go As.

          • the llama Mar 25,2013 10:39 pm || Up

            Too awesome for BART, eh?

            • MikeV Mar 25,2013 10:45 pm || Up

              how would I transport the beer and the ribs?

              And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

              Thanks, and go As.

    • Dial C for Concupiscence Mar 25,2013 10:54 pm || Up

      I will be too

    • andeux Mar 25,2013 10:54 pm || Up
      TINSTAAFK
      • the llama Mar 25,2013 10:57 pm || Up

        Ah yes. I may swing by.

      • brian.only Mar 25,2013 11:39 pm || Up

        Size matters, this sounds great.

      • Poppy Mar 26,2013 3:05 am || Up

        Not only do I not have the day off, but I have to work an assload of OT on Monday, before and after game, so I’m probably just going to appear at the stadium barely in time to take my seat by 7:00.

        There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
        • nevermoor Mar 26,2013 11:01 am || Up

          I’m probably in the same boat. And no Yoenessa for that one.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • Future Ed Mar 26,2013 7:49 am || Up

      I think FSU will be in the regular spot, near WAC’s SOS thing. I will make a base of FSU.

      I will have the childrens too.

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Mar 26,2013 9:41 am || Up

        Yes, that is exactly my plan, to plant the tailgate flag at the normal spot to use as the base of operations. I’m not going to make a big effort to coordinate foodstuffs or attendance, more like here we are, stop by and hang out and BYO whatever. I’ll make sure we have a hot grill or two available, cooler space, a table and probably a sun canopy.

        The Upgrade crew will be repped by me, Nurse Upgrade, Nurse Upgrade’s sister, Nurse Upgrade’s sister’s boyfriend, and Primera, Segundo, and Niece Upgrade for the kid contingent. All kids are welcome to make our van the kid clubhouse.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  15. the llama Mar 25,2013 10:50 pm

    Cria 1 got the game ball on Saturday. Usually the game ball goes to a kid who makes a nice play or has a good hit, or who hustles and cheers for his teammates. Not my boy. He got hit in the head with the ball in the first inning (not hard – five years old can’t throw that well) and after some ice decided to come back into the game. That’s right, my kid was MVP for getting bonked in the noggin.

    • Dial C for Concupiscence Mar 25,2013 10:57 pm || Up

      • the llama Mar 25,2013 10:58 pm || Up

        Exactly!

        • ptbnl Mar 25,2013 11:30 pm || Up

          I hope you rubbed some dirt on it.

          And gave him second dip in the chaw bag.

          If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
          • Future Ed Mar 26,2013 7:50 am || Up

            My eldest scraped his knee two years ago, a friend jokingly said, “rub some dirt on it kid” and so, naturally…

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • the llama Mar 26,2013 8:28 am || Up

        Even among 5-year-olds, he’s like David Eckstein. Unfortunately I passed him my athletic genes.

        • elcroata Mar 26,2013 8:51 am || Up

          And a favorable strike zone

          Because survival is insufficient
          • the llama Mar 26,2013 8:55 am || Up

            True. Useless in coach-pitch and t-ball.

            • elcroata Mar 26,2013 9:15 am || Up

              His world is bigger than that

              Because survival is insufficient
              • the llama Mar 26,2013 9:33 am || Up

                Indeed. A boy needs to know how to throw, catch, field, and hit a baseball; throw and catch a football; kick a soccer ball; and shoot a basketball. He doesn’t have to be good at it. But he needs to be competent enough to do it without getting teased. It will make PE class less of a chore, help him make friends, and bond with his old man.

                • Glorious Mundy Mar 26,2013 9:37 am || Up

                  That’s a good list. I’d add dribble a basketball. Those kids who try to dribble by slapping at the ball make me sad.

                • the llama Mar 26,2013 9:51 am || Up

                  Good point.

                • elcroata Mar 26,2013 9:46 am || Up

                  Eight-tool player!

                  Because survival is insufficient
    • AV Mar 26,2013 9:12 am || Up

      that’s how i got my game ball. everybody signed it at the bar after the game, while i was at the emergency room trying to see through blood coagulating in my vitreous humor. it says, “way to keep your eye on the ball.” i was 38.

      *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
      • elcroata Mar 26,2013 9:16 am || Up

        nice

        Because survival is insufficient
      • dmoas Mar 26,2013 9:30 am || Up

        At least you got the ball. I took a softball to the face while playing center. Square on the chin. Ran, picked it up, threw it back in and then admonished myself. Last game of the season too.

        • the llama Mar 26,2013 9:35 am || Up

        • elcroata Mar 26,2013 9:47 am || Up

          I had one (baseball) bounce way high off the top off my head, also in center. Almost made the play on the ricochet

          Because survival is insufficient
          • ptbnl Mar 26,2013 9:51 am || Up

            If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
            • AV Mar 26,2013 10:10 am || Up

              ouch.

              *i’m* AV. alex vause. put this loon in psych before she hurts someone.
              • Glorious Mundy Mar 26,2013 10:11 am || Up

                It’s his own fault. elcroata was calling him off the whole time.

            • elcroata Mar 26,2013 10:13 am || Up

              something like that. to my defense, it happened a day after my right-fielder crashed into me although I called him off and I was hearing him running into me again. took my eyes off the ball to look at him and when I looked back up there was nothing but sun until somebody knocked on my head

              Because survival is insufficient
      • the llama Mar 26,2013 9:30 am || Up

        That’s awful/hilarious.

  16. Glorious Mundy Mar 26,2013 10:21 am

  17. ozzman99 Mar 26,2013 12:27 pm

    I see these morons on FB posting about how they support “traditional marriage”but they aren’t homophobic. They love homosexuals because they are Christians and God calls them to love everyone. And all I can think is, “You don’t really know what ‘love’ means, do you?”

    • PDXAthleticsfan Mar 26,2013 1:08 pm || Up

      I’m fortunate to have not seen a single “traditional marriage” post on my news feed today, even from friends/family that I know lean that way. There’s even one surprise pro-gay marriage supporter.

      A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
    • dmoas Mar 26,2013 2:20 pm || Up

      They believe in traditional marriage, like when they buy the chick from her father, she’s completely subservient to her man, and they can’t divorce. After all, tradition is tradition.

    • batgirl Mar 26,2013 3:45 pm || Up

      “I tolerate them with all my heart!”

    • 5Aces Mar 28,2013 10:19 am || Up

      I want to know what love is…

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
      • ozzman99 Mar 28,2013 12:10 pm || Up

        I want you to show me…

        • 5Aces Mar 28,2013 1:16 pm || Up

          It’s gonna take a little time.

          Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  18. PDXAthleticsfan Mar 26,2013 1:14 pm

    Since all the ticket stuff is swirling around on other posts, I’ll throw another one out. I’m going to Seattle June 20-23 and planning to catch the Sunday afternoon A’s-Mariners game. I’m planning to get a bunch of tickets for a weird mishmosh of family, friends, and former co-workers. Any FKers want to join in the fun?

    A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
  19. Jennifer Mar 26,2013 2:27 pm

    Guess who the speaker is for graduation in May. THIS GIRL.

    • ptbnl Mar 26,2013 2:35 pm || Up

      As it should be.

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • Future Ed Mar 26,2013 2:35 pm || Up

      nice

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • the llama Mar 26,2013 2:37 pm || Up

      Awesome!

    • PDXAthleticsfan Mar 26,2013 2:38 pm || Up

      Excellent!

      A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
    • elcroata Mar 26,2013 2:40 pm || Up

      Perfect!

      Because survival is insufficient
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Mar 26,2013 3:14 pm || Up

      Way to go Jennifer! Knock ’em dead! And then resuscitate them, further proving your awesomeness.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • DFA Mar 26,2013 3:27 pm || Up

      I mean the gril is probably a good choice. Doesn’t say much, makes good stakes.

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
      • colin Mar 27,2013 5:04 am || Up

        That’s an intentional misspelling of stakes/steaks to further your joke, right? I can never tell with you.

        • DFA Mar 27,2013 8:10 am || Up

          yes. the joke was intentional apparently not that funny

          In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
    • aardvark Mar 26,2013 5:03 pm || Up

      Nicely done!

    • Jennifer Mar 26,2013 8:35 pm || Up

      Thanks everyone. The class elected me, so it feels like a real honor. Now I just have to figure out what I’m going to say.

      • Soaker Mar 26,2013 9:49 pm || Up

        Follow your dreams, find your passion, never stop learning and remember that you, too, can change the world. I’d start by Googling “commencement speech clichés” for some thoughts about what not to say.

        What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
        • Future Ed Mar 26,2013 9:51 pm || Up

          commencement speech cliches? that’s ungooglable

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • dmoas Mar 26,2013 10:01 pm || Up

            Ogooglebar!

          • Soaker Mar 26,2013 10:04 pm || Up

            I remember being concerned that I could “win” this election in high school. But I think my classmates were concerned that I might let fly a volley of F-bombs in front of their parents and grandparents, so thankfully somebody else gave the speech.

            What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
            • DFA Mar 27,2013 8:11 am || Up

              i gave my commencement speech

              In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
              • the llama Mar 28,2013 11:28 pm || Up

                Same here. I drew an extended contrast between Saved By The Bell and Actual High School.

                • DFA Mar 29,2013 12:11 am || Up

                  Mine was mostly statitics about how much less life sucks if you graduate

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • Soaker Mar 29,2013 12:32 am || Up

                  Ooh, bore them to death with numbers rather than clichés, that’s an intriguing strategy!

                  What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
                • nevermoor Mar 29,2013 10:04 am || Up

                  I should have. Had the best actual GPA of anyone who did all four years at my HS. I got knocked out because they looked at UNWEIGHTED gpa (i.e. no bonus for honors classes), and someone else snuck past me there. Second spot went to a transfer student.

                  In the moment I was glad not to have to do it (and totally checked out of my school), looking back it would have been nice.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • colin Mar 29,2013 11:38 am || Up

                  I think that I had exactly the same result as you, and at the same high school to boot. I mean *really* exactly the same, even down to the transfer student at #2.

                • colin Mar 29,2013 11:38 am || Up

                  In between our graduation years, my sister did finish as valedictorian.

                • nevermoor Mar 29,2013 11:49 am || Up

                  It still doesn’t make sense that it worked that way.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • Dial C for Concupiscence Mar 29,2013 12:21 pm || Up

                  My school had some system where anyone who qualified above a certain (quite high) GPA cutoff could apply to give the speech and all. I declined to do so, but maybe I should have.

                • the llama Mar 29,2013 9:52 pm || Up

                  That was my school, too.

                • DFA Mar 30,2013 12:18 am || Up

                  my school had a tryout. I won

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • PDXAthleticsfan Mar 30,2013 6:55 am || Up

                  We had a tryout among three of us who had an unweighted 4.0 (freshman year didn’t count, for some reason). I didn’t win, but wasn’t super excited about the theme: “Give the best that you have and the best will come back to you.” My interpretation wasn’t very literal and didn’t go over well with the judges.

                  A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
                • dmoas Mar 30,2013 9:07 am || Up

                  It’s also a crock of shit. Let’s toss out one more lie to the students before they leave us!

                • nevermoor Mar 30,2013 11:37 am || Up

                  Stupid unweighted GPAs

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • ptbnl Mar 30,2013 12:01 pm || Up

                  Let it go Frank, just let it go.

                  If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
                • dmoas Mar 30,2013 12:04 pm || Up

                  I think a more appropriate response would be:
                  Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn.

                • Future Ed Mar 30,2013 12:16 pm || Up

                  lighten up francis?

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • elcroata Mar 30,2013 12:54 pm || Up

                  You lost to Barry Manilow!

                  Because survival is insufficient
                • the llama Mar 30,2013 1:57 pm || Up

                  I had a strange situation where I had the second-highest *weighted* GPA in my school. This was because I was in the journalism class. Because the school had wanted to stop supporting that class, the compromise was that journalism was held during “zero period,” ie, before school started. We still got course credit for it. So I had seven classes instead of six, and because journalism was not an honors course, it pulled my GPA *down*.

                  It was a lasting lesson that those that do more work voluntarily are idiots.

                  Fortunately, i was able to get a school administrator to write a letter to colleges to explain why I wasn’t ranked number one on my transcript. Didn’t really help anyway.

                • Dial C for Concupiscence Mar 30,2013 2:01 pm || Up

                  The lesson is: never try

                • Future Ed Mar 30,2013 2:06 pm || Up

                  never too young to learn that

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • elcroata Mar 30,2013 2:53 pm || Up

                  Aim low, reach goals, avoid disappointment

                  Because survival is insufficient
                • nevermoor Mar 30,2013 3:30 pm || Up

                  I did the opposite and took half the normal number of classes as a senior. Which was awesome.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • the llama Mar 30,2013 8:47 pm || Up

                  And you got into the fancy-pants East coast school, while I didn’t. There’s a lesson there.

                • nevermoor Mar 31,2013 5:45 pm || Up

                  Well, part of that was because I took some UC classes too. Still had my Wednesdays totally off that year.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • the llama Mar 31,2013 7:49 pm || Up

                  Yeah, I did that senior-year-UC-classes-thing, too. Nice going into college admissions season knowing that Cal was my backup. (…and, I fell back.)

                • nevermoor Mar 31,2013 11:18 pm || Up

                  I think the biggest shock of my parents’ life was that I even applied anywhere else.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • the llama Apr 1,2013 11:34 am || Up

                  My dad(‘s wallet) was pleased that I didn’t get into the two private schools I applied to.

                • nevermoor Apr 1,2013 12:01 pm || Up

                  They definitely tried bribery, I just really wanted some new experiences.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • the llama Apr 1,2013 12:10 pm || Up

                  That’s why we went east for grad school.

                  Then we had kids and came running back.

                • ptbnl Apr 1,2013 12:15 pm || Up

                  But they tracked you down.

                  If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
                • nevermoor Apr 1,2013 12:16 pm || Up

                  Indeed. It’s also why I went center for grad school.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • PDXAthleticsfan Mar 30,2013 11:02 pm || Up

                  I wouldn’t have been the running by weighted GPA and only was there by unweighted GPA because bedmy US History teacher changed my grade due to a good showing on the AP. So I hold no bitterness.

                  A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
        • Dial C for Concupiscence Mar 26,2013 10:25 pm || Up

          Oh the places you’ll go!

      • elcroata Mar 26,2013 10:38 pm || Up

        Use sunscreen

        Because survival is insufficient
      • ptbnl Mar 26,2013 10:47 pm || Up

        If ever there was an occasion for Durrty Gurtie’s debut …

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • Englishmajor Mar 26,2013 11:00 pm || Up

        Well, OBVIOUSLY you’re going to take this opportunity to discuss the 2013 Oakland A’s starting lineup.

      • ozzman99 Mar 27,2013 12:32 am || Up

        I think it’s obvious. Do a dramatic reading of a Lounge.

        • colin Mar 27,2013 5:06 am || Up

          Graduation speech is just 30 minutes of Bed-isms.

          • PDXAthleticsfan Mar 27,2013 7:28 am || Up

            Start out with “This graduation speech will make more sense in the voice of a high school history teacher from Arkansas.”

            A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
            • dmoas Mar 27,2013 9:37 am || Up

              Set up a giant picture of Morgan Freeman, but take your time… lots of time. Tell everyone to look at the image and imagine his voice with your words. Pause a very long time. Then say “Titty Sprinkles” and walk off the stage.

              • beebo Mar 27,2013 1:06 pm || Up

                A mic drop at the end would be a nice touch.

      • elcroata Mar 27,2013 1:07 pm || Up

        Can you get an empty chair on the stage?

        Because survival is insufficient
      • Bed Mar 27,2013 4:41 pm || Up

        Congratulations Jennifer…I’ve really enjoyed reading about your adventure through your studies and I hope you’re feeling a real sense of accomplishment.

        But seriously, folks....
    • oblique Mar 27,2013 11:31 am || Up

      Wow, very cool! Congratulations!

  20. Bed Mar 28,2013 9:31 pm

    So…any ideas on what the perfect thing to grill up is for a Draft Party/Intervention?

    But seriously, folks....

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