So my current favorite means of warming up when I sit down to write poetry is to pick a word or three and use the letters of it/them as the first letter of each line. For example, if I’m thinking about pastries, I might choose the word “croissants” and end up with a poem like this:
Come down to the riverside Run along the banks Order the reeds to part before you my little Moses I will be waiting here Skipping stones across currents Skipping heartbeats across smiles Always I will be here Next to the river Tussled by a gentle breeze of you Smile, my little Moses, and join me
What’s great about this warmup is that you don’t know where you’re going when you start. You just begin writing whatever the particular letter brings to mind and end at the end of the phrase. For me, it gets me flowing, and sometimes leads to a seed of something for a larger poem, like this:
When I was little I had the power to part things. People walking down the sidewalk traffic on the freeway ice cubes stuck together. I never told anyone but I was sure of it. You don't share a superpower. I'd seen the movies read the comics. With great power... I was a force but stayed mild mannered. I knew I had to remain in control, hidden. So I played freeze tag with abandon, fumbled with comebacks to bullies, stared with awe at pizza days. Until I saw you in that hospital bed so sunken. I couldn't part you from your illness. Believe me, I tried. I'd never felt so powerless. The rattle of your breath, the room sanitized of joy, the pall in the very air itself. I'd never felt so out of control. So I bargained with God. I told him He could take my power if you could live. Stiff upper lip, I was noble as fuck. I held your hand, so frail, and tried to hold down feelings of being overwhelmed. You just smiled and promised to make it to my next birthday. I can't part things anymore An average adult. But you still skip stones down by the lake My little Moses. I regret nothing.
I’m currently reading House of Leaves. I’m still pretty early on, but I’m really enjoying it so far
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That book gets really fking weird, pretty E.E. Cummings as well.
I’ll have to dig that out, I remember liking it.
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Yeah, that’s what I’ve heard. The writing is good though and that will carry me a long way.
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Just be prepared for the narrative to sort of fall apart and you’ll be fine.
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I have flipped through the book before I started, and couldn’t help but notice the, ah, less than cohesive latter pages, so I’m ready for it
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Agreed. Props on the super hipster reading choice
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I just finished Cloud Atlas. Really liked it.
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I haven’t read it or seen the movie, but I’ve heard that the book is quite good.
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The book is decent, although I wish it went a little deeper in a few parts. The North Korea-of-the-future storyline was awesome.
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It’s a light read, but I found it surprisingly moving.
I realized recently that I never watched the X Files all the way through. So that’s my current Netflix adventure. I’m on Season 4 right now.
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I’m always surprised how well it holds up, other than the superawkward cell phone technology.
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Yeah, I definitely haven’t felt the awkward super-dated feelings, beyond some of the technology.
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I never saw it, worth watching?
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It totally is. Even with the age, it’s a very well put together show.
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Hrm, and on Net-fix I see!
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That is usually how I determine what I’m going to watch next.
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I’m finally watching Firefly. I can see why it got cult status and why it flopped. It just looks like an amateur film, even though the characters/plots/etc are interesting.
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I had fun with Firefly. I like sci fi shows though. But yeah, a sci fi western might not be a mainstream thing
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Si! Love Firefly, and I’m okay with the low tech approach. I feel the same way about Dr. Who.
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Exactly, although I will say that Willow always annoyed the crap out of me.
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This was made way worse in serenity
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Her brother annoyed me more. Willow ended up kicking ass! <3
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I mean more the production quality feels amateur and the actors just sort of look wrong. I like the concept
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ant agree with the amateur assessment. One of the big reasons it flopped was fox ran the show out of order. I have much love for it also Inara/homeland Jessica is on my list.
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Whoa, I never made that connection. That’s super obvious now that you mentioned it.
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I’m a Kylie man, way hawter!
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Definitely super hot. I like a gear box girl but it’s that grecoroman thing that just eats me up
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Thank you! I just finished watching that! Great series!
Has anyone ever listened to Darwin Deez? He’s doing a concert in SF tomorrow night.
I’m currently…not really playing any video games right now. I have a few backed up that I haven’t touched yet, but I just don’t have the interest in them that I usually do. I guess OOTP is absorbing that time from my life right now, what with baseball coming soon and everything.
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Why have you not joined my league again?
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My interest and time I’m able to spend vacillates. I would feel guilty if I wasn’t able to keep up with it in a league with people, while I don’t have to care about the AI’s feelings.
The last movie I watched was Bottle Rockets. I don’t know why, but I don’t watch very many movies. Bottle Rockets was fun though.
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It’s really fun to watch Wes Anderson archetypes when they aren’t yet fully developed.
I rank his stuff
life aquatic
moonrise kingdom
Rushmore
royal tennenbaums
bottle rocket
Darjeeling
it’s a magnificent filmography
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Finally someone who appreciates Zissou!
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I hated that so much, I actually got angry at the TV screen for showing it to me.
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Heh. I still haven’t seen it.
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I find it fascinating how divisive this movie is, just for curiosities sake, what annoyed you so vehemently?
It’s obviously meant to be kooky and light-hearted so what gives?
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I dislike awkward humor; it makes me feel like someone is being made fun of, and maybe it’s me. I also don’t like Portlandia.
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Gotcha, that makes absolute sense.
NEVER ever watch “Tim and Eric awesome show” then, you’d explode.
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I turn the TV off for “awkward” moments on shows. They’re usually contrived and just… more groanworthy garbage.
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That’s why I love Tim&Eric so much. It’s a multilayered parody of contrived awkwardness!
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It really isn’t that awkward. I hate awkward humor as well. The Office drives me nuts. So does a lot of comedy, but Zizzo is so incredibly honest. Hes old and sad and alone, but also famous and accomplished an cannot relate though he wants to.
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You are wrong.
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No, YOU are wrong! See how enlightening arguments over personal taste can be?
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Jesus fucking christ. If you take incredibly-over-the-top-intentionally-supercillios-bombastic-arguments about taste seriously you are a fool.
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I wasn’t taking it seriously; that’w why my response was meant as a joke.
Nevermoor, can FK 3.0 include Closed Captioning for the Humor Impaired?
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Maybe you should wait a day or two after calling me a closed minded narcissistic sexist womanizer who self medicates an addiction to arguing by pissing people off before making that joke if you want me to think it is funny.
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I don’t think you’re closed minded, nor sexist.
Dude, I’ve always appreciated your ability to engage in heated argument one day then have light hearted banter the next. Your “You Are Wrong” response sure reads that way. Apparently your policy is different when someone takes you up on your offer to point out your faults. If you prefer I can just take the safest course and steer clear of you altogether for awhile.
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My policy is not different when people take up my offer to point out my faults. I expect people when having a real discussion to be serious so I took you serious that you believe that I am a closed minded narcissistic sexist womanizer who self medicates an addiction to arguing by pissing people off. I don’t think that any of those charges are funny because I find them to be serious. You bringing it up here didn’t feel light hearted banter, but a continuation of your previous critique as you made no indication that you had stopped it.
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As someone who lofs you both, perhaps a week of tiptoeing around each other might be in order.
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I was about to say lighten up francis, but I think I best not now.
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Someday, someone’ll solve that one.
It isn’t going to be me though.
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One of my all time favorite movies
This has been your update into my current entertainment decisions.
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Thank you, Dial B for Bed
So I’m slowly building a kitchen at work. It started innocently enough, with me bringing in a French Press and some ground coffee because the break room coffee is terrible. But then I added easy breakfast snacks like cereal bars and such. Those morphed into full-on morning cereal with me storing milk in the break room fridge and everything. Now I bought a coffee grinder because all the stored ground coffee wasn’t good enough either. I pretty much need a cart to shlep my morning meal and accoutrements back and forth from the break room. It’s getting out of hand
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I’ve been thinking about bringing coffee making equipment to the office because I can’t tolerate the office coffee and I’m spending too much money going to Peet’s. I think that if I do it, though, I may become unacceptably eccentric.
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I’m dealing with any looks I get by adopting an impenetrable cloak of elitism and snobbery. That helps.
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Actually though, everyone who’s commented has always said that it’s a great idea. Nobody likes the break room coffee.
Adding the coffee grinder into the French Press mix might cross that line though. It remains to be seen.
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I have a hand grinder, so I could do it silently at least.
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Oh that’s a nice touch. I tend to get to the office 10-15 minutes early than most, so there’s a period where I can bust out that electric whirr without feeling like I need to cringe.
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I bought the hand grinder so that I could grind early in the morning without waking up the kids. Now I just crank up the electric burr grinder and figure they should get up anyway.
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You can be one of those parents who wake their kids up at like 9:30 AM on a Saturday because it’s just time to get up is all. That’s exciting!
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I’d usually rather they sleep in so I can enjoy a quiet breakfast. But not so much that I will grind the beans by hand like some sort of cave man.
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Sounds reasonable. There is a price to technology, and the future generations are the ones that always pay it.
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I luckily the folks in the office are epicurean snobs, we have surprisingly good coffee and tea which helps when I’m running too late to make my own, its just staying in cream and soy that’s the problem..
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oops ignore the ‘I’…
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That’s why I drink it black.
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Peets coffee is awful. I bought a traveler for our gg fields protest last week and it was burnt bleck.
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Best I can find for about 30 miles.
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I like Peets alright. Not the greatest, but reasonable and ubiquitous. Their stuff at grocery stores is much less good.
What were you protesting at GGF?
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Them treating their janitors like shit.
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If you treat your janitor like shit, you’ll be stepping in it soon enough.
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Their Lattes beat Starbucks, and those are the main options.
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really? ehhhh.
I mostly drink drip or macchiatos
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Their drip coffee is so much better than Starbucks that it is not even worth discussing.
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Their large travelers aren’t superior and thats pretty much when I drink that stuff. At 6am with a bunch of janitors or security guards.
I was mostly commenting on Lattes being the main option though.
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Is 6am with Janitors or Security Guards really the time to bitch about bad coffee?
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It’s always time to bitch about bad coffee.
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It unites us.
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Yes. This.
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When it costs hella money and is burnt then yes.
Also they didn’t make it. Starbucks or Peets did.
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The 8 of us in my office chipped in and bought a good, completely self-contained, $1000 espresso machine.
Paid for itself within three months.
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yup.
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Nice. That would be a great way to go.
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What I do is I just don’t drink coffee.
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this
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I’m not super reliant on it, but I like to have a cup in the morning. And when it’s the first thing I’m tasting in a day, I want it to not suck.
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If your one cup is first thing in the morning, then why not make it at home? One of the things that gets me out of bed in the morning is that I actually look forward to my brewing ritual.
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I try to cut out as much as I can from home in the morning to maximize my sleep. That’s how I’ve ended up eating breakfast at work. Plus I like the leisure of drinking my coffee at work in the morning while I wind up for the day. I feel like if I made it at home and drank in the car I wouldn’t enjoy it as much.
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We used to prepare the coffeepot the evening before and put it on timer so that coffee was ready in the morning. We stopped doing that, as the task of getting the Spawn up/dressed/fed/out the door is monumental enough without adding coffee to the chores. Plus, the little cafe downstairs makes good coffee and the woman who runs it throws in an extra shot for me whenever she has one to give.
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I don’t own a coffee machine is also part of the problem. Just my little French Press for now
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I’ve found the Melitta ‘gold filter’ is easier to clean and saves a lot of coffee in the end, that is if your only making it for yourself as it makes one cup at a time.
Its a pour over method and I’ve found it to taste just as good/ strong if you pour slowly, you just need to grind it finer than what you’d do for press.
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Pour over over press every day for me. I’m a Chemex man though.
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Love Chemex, but after breaking two carafes it’s maybe not the best for me.
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I use a Melitta cone with paper filters and I love it. I recognize that some people really prefer espresso, but I’m not one of them.
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Espresso is wonderful, but my attitude is that its preparation should be left to the professionals.
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I largely feel this way too, although I actually like Nespresso.
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I actually view them as two different beasts.
I like coffee for sipping, w/ espresso you really need to get your business done in a minute or two unless your dumping a ton of milk in it.
GM has a point too, its all about the machine it comes out of and the hand tamping it, I only know because I was a barista for a few years between school, touring, and jobs.
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When a barista asks me whether I want my espresso “for here or to go” it makes me want to scream. Don’t they know that I will have finished drinking it before I can even arrive at the exit?
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Starting the work day with a good cup of coffee is nice. Unfortunately, I also need a cup in order to survive the commute.
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Given that my commute is stupid long, I worry that this will become the case. That’s why I try not to have more than one cup a day.
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Always worth embedding:
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Still love this.
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1. bonus cup 64 up, 7 down
a caffeinated beverage created by the descendents
1/3 cup instant coffee grounds
hot water
5 spoons of sugar
O worshippers of the mighty ALL, I had a dream. The Basemaster General came to me. We had a little snack at the doughnut shop. He said, “Drink of my bonus cup, it is my blood. Eat at this crapper, it is my body.” And his spirit entered me and I became ALL-ULAR. The Basemaster said, “You are the chosen one.”
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source
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bonus%20cup
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“thou shall not decaf.”
i had the bonus cup travel mug in college.
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wow forza italia! (i guess i can approve of gli azzurri in a baseball context.)
and loved that first inning commentary. something along the lines of, “all team USA has to do is win against italy today and win their next game and that seals their pass to the next round,” said in the tones of done-deal. (then they show the board and USA is 4th out of 4 with no wins.)
oh well ethpaña. oh well venezuela. still, am enjoying this WBC thing.
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I am in the middle of this:
http://www.amazon.com/Spray-Paint-Walls-Story-Black/dp/1604864184
not great, but the main holy shot how did I not know that is that Raymond Pettibon is Greg ginn’s brother
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*Holy shit
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It does explain all the Black Flag album covers no? To your defense it’s a made up name.
I’m sad to say Raymond Pettibon was the most excruciating lecture I’ve ever had the misfortune of attending.
I died a little.
I’m not sure if it was all a performance or if he really is that brain damaged, but after an hour of complete garbage I lost all respect for him.
Surprising thing is that his new stuff has a ton of baseball in it.
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*Still love his work though.
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the book makes the ginn family out as eccentric and greg ginn as a hyper controlling anarchist. I am not sure the author was going for that portrait, but that’s how it reads to me.
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I’ve heard about the ”control freakish” tendances from Joe from Saccharine Trust but he still held him in good regard.
I do think you need a healthy amount of megalomania to run an indie label, especially an arguably successful one, we ‘did’ after all buy those records right?
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right. ANd they did totally make up the DIY touring out of whole cloth.
the quotes from everyone fired from Black flag, which is to say everyone, are very respectful of greg ginn, everyone still seems to like him, but, come on, he fired everyone, including Chuck Dukowski
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i met greg. 1991 or so, i was working at crown books in long beach. he came in and bought the prince. we chatted briefly, but not about music. he tried to sell me on the importance of machiavelli.
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For reals, that’s pretty fantastic if this isn’t sarcasm!
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absolute truth.
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Huh didn’t know everyone, I’d actually like to read that when your done, book loan trade?
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I have it on loan form someone. sad face
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Heh, no worries!
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According to the catalog, they have a copy at the Temescal branch of the Oakland Public Library.
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Oh sweet!
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i knew that! have we talked about the helter skelter show at the temporary contemporary?
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no.
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t’was awesome. did you see it?
huge group show of all of this subversive art in the midst of the NEA defunding, just wond’rous as can be, even if robert hughes hated it. i thought it was the best thing ever anyway. though maybe because i was on a couple tabs of acid! so maybe it actually sucked. but still. ended up appreciating robert william’s paintings. and i couldn’t step away from the llyn foulkes paintings/relief friezes/sound-light ensembles.
http://home.netwood.net/kosenko/Helter.htm
but back to the point, pettibon had a whole wall of drawings and i was like, wait, i know this stuff… it’s *just like* those black flag albums! oh wait.
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what i didn’t know, and someone just hipped me to, is that apparently henry rollins wasn’t an asshole at first, but had to become one to fend off the bigger assholes who beat him up. is that true?
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it is the implication in the book. he wa an earnest kid, the all the HC OC kids would beat him up and he went head long into his budding body building and fighting people.
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i mean, mike watt speaks highly of “hank”
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Wow, I always saw him as the aggressor, especially watching videos of live shows, he’s clearly enjoying punching the front row.
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The way the people telling the story say it, yeah, he did that, but it was later that he was the aggressor, after being pummeled one tour.
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it’s a shame.
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I subscribe to the Mikev coffee philosophy.
Holy crap. You are amazing.
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Thanks! I’m trying to psyche myself up to go to an open mic on Sunday, so I’ve been thinking about poetry a lot recently. I haven’t done a real full-on slam poetry open mic in a long time, so I’m hesitant.
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Have you ever submitted to a magazine or anything? Your stuff is better than what I skim in the New Yorker.
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No I never have. Wait, I might have submitted something to one of those poetry anthologies back in like Junior year of high school, but that was a long time ago.
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Speaking of high school (and you’ll recall we went to the same one only years apart), I once wrote a poem (my first) for an English class assignment as a sophomore and was secretly proud when the teacher chose mine to read for the class. A guy that happened to be my best friend in Grades 1-5 from elementary school (after which I changed schools then didn’t see him again until high school) was in the class. He’d always been the most athletic one in elementary school and was now a star athlete in high school but kind of a jock/jerk, and we weren’t friends anymore. He said to me, “You didn’t write that! C’mon–you copied it, didn’t you?” “Yeah, I copied it,” I replied, feeling too embarrassed to admit that I really did write it. It’s funny how baseball connects this story. My former childhood friend, Fran Mullins, eventually went on to play for a few years with the White Sox/Giants/Indians but the most indelible memory I have of him will always be the comment he made about a poem I wrote 40 years ago and the regret I felt for not standing up to his gibe.
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I do recall. It seems like what you had was significant enough to make an impression on him.
I have a third date scheduled for Friday night. I’m pretty excited about it
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Congratulations Dial D for DFA
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Heh
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Okc? The tattoo artist? On my way to blow up girl date number 3.
Blow up is a dance club btw
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No the tattoo artist didn’t work out unfortunately. This was the girl I went to drinks with a little bit ago when we were talking about your MoMa dating habits.
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Three dates in one night? Who are you, Peter Brady?
That’s really moving, DialC. Thank you for sharing it.
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Thank you! As I said above, poetry’s on my mind right now, so I’m glad I have a place to at least type it out if nothing more.
All of my watches have started to die recently. I feel like there’s a secret mechanical plague going around constrained solely to the bounds of my room.
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I wish I hadn’t habitualized myself to wearing a watch. If I don’t go and get these batteries replaced soon, I’m going to feel real dumb walking around with a stopped watch.
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I’ve habituated myself to not wearing a watch. It feels weird now to wear one, but I feel like an ass pulling out my phone each time I need to know the time.
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I do like the almost anti-technology feel to it, and I just like accessories. I guess I grew up not wearing a watch and seeing my dad wear one, so when he gave me one on my 16th or whatever birthday, I connected watch wearing with a sign of adulthood.
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Part of me still holds onto this I think, even if one of the watches I own is a “Where the Wild Things Are” watch.
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I just break them within a month. problem solved.
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I gave up watch wearing when cell phones came along, I mostly haven’t missed it, but lately I have been admiring the fashion accessory aspect.
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I feel uncomfortable in scarves and things of that nature, so watches are a good way to indulge that fashion accessory desire.
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Belt buckles I’m starting to appreciate too, but that can get tacky quickly.
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I need to fix my dad’s watch band or get a battery for the other watch.
No cell phones in jail and sometimes I get caught in there too long
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I’m sorry your cellphone is having problems. When is your contract up? ;)
I think I get unreasonably upset when I find out some free giveaway I’ve received doesn’t work. Like one time I got a free branded lighter from some company, and when I finally went to use it some weeks later, it wouldn’t spark. I was way too outraged.
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Really? I assume every free giveaway will be total crap and then am pleasantly surprised at the few that aren’t.
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I have high expectations for my free giveaways. My primary sunglasses are free giveaway ones. I think I have higher expectations of free giveaways than I do for cheap knockoff items.
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My ex wears my Chevy A’s sunglasses. It’s kinda scary how much like Taylor swift she looks
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My A’s sunglasses don’t fit as well as these other free ones, which is disappointing, as I would obviously prefer the A’s ones.
I don’t think I have the patience for fantasy baseball slow drafts. We’re doing one in a league of mine and it is taking weeks. I spend more time being angry at slow people than doing anything draft-related.
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I only do auction drafts now, snake is flawed comparatively.
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I’ve done auction only for football, but I like it a lot better than snake there. Football is definitely my second sport, but that feeling would probably be the same for baseball.
Has anyone found a good smothered burrito in SF? I used to love them in LA, but haven’t found a good one here.
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No, and I was lamenting their absence after I had a great one recently in Paso Robles.
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Bleh. Do you think red chili stuff actually expires? I have an unopened jar of the stuff from New Mexico, but it says it expired in June, 2011.
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It’s probably fine. Or at least that’s what my wife would say if I tried to throw something like that out.
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It is probably worth the risk.
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Gotta have a vinegary/preservativey natural decay product of some kind. You’ll be fine. You have a life alert necklace, right?
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Expiration dates are completely arbitrary. Only way to know for sure is to get someone to take a bite and then see what happens.
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There was a cool article in the most recent issue of Lucky Peach about people who intentionally age canned goods, sometimes with heat to speed the process. Evidently the expiration dates that they have on cans are chosen based on when there is any detectible change in flavor, not actual spoiling. But most of their examples were with canned anchovies or sardines, which I don’t like much.
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I’ve heard that too, but I still get wary at a year and a half past the listed date, even for something like this.
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That’s why you let someone else take the first bite.
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Ew, anchovies and sardines. No thanks.
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That’s mostly what I’ve heard. And when they don’t, they’re typically being ultra conservative with dates. But since I’m not one to want to test something out for spoilage or poor taste, I tend to be equally conservative in when to toss stuff.
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Nope
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El matate?
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Where’s that? The ones I’ve tried so far have disappointed.
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apparently they only smother their enchiladas.
I use to get Azteca’s smothered burrito on church but its closed now.
Im an El Faralito supporter, but ive never gotten their smothered.
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Even Green Chili Kitchen, which is a New Mexico-style eatery doesn’t do very good smothered burritos. And I like a lot of their stuff.
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personally I want to manhandle my burrito, so sauce on top isn’t very appealing.
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euphemism.
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thats what i was going for.
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I find it more fun when there’s sauce everywhere.
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twss
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Oddly, my favorite Mex place in South SF was called Los Metates.
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Boo! La Perla.
Though apparently La Perla is under new ownership now, so I’ll have to see if they’ve held the line.
I’ve been enjoying some saisons and session beers lately. I never used to think very highly of them.
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21st Amendment does both of these well.
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Wasn’t impressed with them on Monday :(
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What was Monday? Have you had their Bitter American?
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I was there with an old friend from college
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They have a beer named after me? FKers. It figures they’d make money off my personality and not pay me for it. I hate everything.
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Aside from the watermelon in the beer thing which is great at 2pm on De Boom St in the hot sun, I haven’t really had anything that I liked yet, what should I try?
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I like Back in Black. And Monk’s Blood.
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I like Bitter American.
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Thanks guys, I’ll check em’ out.
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Yeah, what GM said. I recently tried their seasonal saison, Sneak Attack, and enjoyed it. Monk’s Blood is good too
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Most of their beer is ok. There really isn’t anything that besides the watermelon wheat is like OMG I want that for me. highly over rated imo
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I like that their beer comes in cans.
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and the can art is quite good.
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I like saisons a lot, especially if it’s something that I’m sharing with my gf (cause she doesn’t like IPAs). Mystic is a brewery out near me that makes a nice one, but I don’t think they distribute to CA.
My favorite cookie might be ginger snaps. And I like ginger ale. And pickled ginger. Yet, I grew up not thinking I liked ginger very much.
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Ginger sucks. A horribly overrated flavor.
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That’s what I used to think. But all these ginger things I like are challenging this conception.
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Right on, Dial G for Ginger
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What FSU said.
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wrong.
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Not what DFA said.
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You mean you can EAT ginger?
(looks at figging from another perspective)
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I always preferred Mary Ann.
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Ginger ale reminds me of having the stomach flu and flying on airplanes as a kid.
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I always get it on airplanes, but I like it outside of flying too. I don’t drink much soda, but it is my go-to mixer. Whiskey gingers!
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Canada dry isn’t really ginger ale though.
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Having moved to Canada, I’m now totally taken by the french spelling of the word for ginger: gingembre. Yet the actual French pronunciation is a total let-down. Some sort of weak-ass “JHON-jhon-bra” or what have you. However, being from the Bay Area, I like to think of it being pronounced with a kind of a spanish flair, like “jhin-JEM-bray”.
So anyway, yeah…
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The latter is how I read it in my head before you dropped the actual pronunciation. I think I will stick with that.
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Alan Gingembree:
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Huh.
Maybe it’s *his* fault.
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I love ginger with seafood.
I went to the Asian Art Museum last weekend. The Terracotta warriors exhibit is really cool.
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Oh really had no idea.
I went to the Love and Rockets (Los Bros. Hernandez) show today at the Cartoon Art Museum, total nostalgia rush, they’ve also re-released the entire series in affordable trades, so gonna get em’!
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boobs
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my kid went there today. I should have paid more attention to the field trip notices. I would have gone
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It’s totally worth seeing.
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I’m pretty sure it’s better than the original in X’ian
In my travels I have somehow missed Sedona, AZ. Is the town worth visiting if you’re not doing outdoor activities, e.g. hiking, rock climbing, etc.? I’m looking for alternate plans in the (likely) event A’s vs. Mariners is cancelled due to rain on Friday. Any other suggestions within 2 hours drive of Phoenix would be appreciated as well. I would need to be back to Chase Field for the WBC game at 7 p.m.
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I wish I remembered anything we did outside of the games I went to when I went to Spring Training in 2009. I’m afraid I don’t though.
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Well sure, I could go sit in a brewpub and down a dozen pints.
I’m oriented towards outdoor activity, and with the forecast calling for a 100% chance of rain a long hike would be doable but not especially appealing. There must be some good indoor activities in the Phoenix area besides eating and drinking; after all, the fools who live here year-round are basically stuck inside from May through October.
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Are there any Phoenix-specific interesting things out there? Museums or the like? There’s always anywhere-indoor-activities like movies or drinking.
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Perhaps a nice hippie cult?
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Sedona is gorgeous and home of slide rock state park which is a natural water slide which might be up your alley. There are some galleries up there bit it is basically gorgeous hiking and that’s mostly it.
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And golf.
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golf is meh.
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You are wrong.
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it destroys the environment and is super expensive.
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Having only played like three times in my life, I feel qualified to say that it is fun though!
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It is until your father leave you at the golf course because he missed a put and you “stepped in his line” when youre in HS.
Also I find that golf gets less fun the more seriously you take it.
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I think most everything in life gets less fun the more seriously you take it.
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I mean if youre actually trying to score well. Golf is incredibly hard to improve at once you get the basics down which is super fustrating.
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It’s also incredibly hard to improve at once you’re good and trying to become competitive.
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this is my point. going from im not completely embarassing myself to good is super hard going from good to competitive is even harder, there isn’t a lot of fun in either of those things for me.
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Most certainly this
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indeed
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he is not wrong
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I’ve been once, about 5 years ago. It was nice, but I’m told it used to be much better. It’s now “on the map” and is over-run with chain hotels and restaurants.
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I loved it. There is a cool short hike to something called Devil’s bridge or something similar, which is a pretty cool place.
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Assuming the A’s are cancelled fairly early in the day a drive up there and a couple of short hikes sounds like a decent idea. There would be rain-dodging but oh well. The forecast for Sedona for tomorrow is:
With fairly significant snow at the higher elevations (Sedona is at about 4300 feet and is expecting snow tomorrow night.)
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Here it is:
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Nice.
The DMV mailed my vehicle registration to my old address and now wants me to pay for a replacement. My old place forwarded the original registration letter to me so I didn’t even notice the old address on there, and since I updated my address with the DMV already I thought I would be fine. But apparently, I updated my address for my driver’s license and NOT my vehicle location, which is I guess a thing you can do. So that’s fun.
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DMV is fantastic for that. I always end up doing the reverse-update the registration but not my license. So the past 2 times I have been up for renewal I did not get the notice and had to go down there with hours left to spare and get a new pic, etc.
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AAA = worth every FKing penny.
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I know and never think of going.
But actually, I found that just getting an appt makes all the difference. Having sat there for an hour+ before, I felt guilty going in, getting called up, paying, going to the other window, getting my pic taken, and leaving in about 10 minutes. Meanwhile the line that was already out the door for walk ins hd gotten about 10 people longer.
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The people at AAA are actually nice, too.
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This. I don’t think I’ve used their tow service in five years, and still it’s worth it.
I adore this exercise!
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Me too. It’s what I’ve been using to warm up ever since I restarted writing.
Loss means nothing to the people that haven’t met her.
Oh! This hurts!
She’s an angel, my second mom.
She made great bacon waffles. Nom, nom!
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Bringing in rhymes too!
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It seemed appropriate.
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You gotta go with what feels right
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When I was with her, I was at peace. :)
I’m thinking of trying homebrewing. Anyone have any experience with that?
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I haven’t bit I’m down to if you want a. Buddy to do it with.
Ps I feel like instead of Lou.gong I just should have hung out with you since basically all my posts are replays to you and its been a while.
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It has been a while. Since football yeah?
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yeah.
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Well this seems like something we can fix pretty easily.
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He’s got a lot of dates lined up. you should probably make an appointment.
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This is true. Though I am free tonight. Brother cancled his trip out.
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I might be going to a concert tonight (see above), but we don’t have tickets yet so if that doesn’t happen, I’ll let you know.
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I miss where you said you were going
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Possibly seeing Darwin Deez at the Bottom of the Hill tonight.
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ahhh fun.
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Welp, that ended quick. That’s the trouble with trying to plan things with people in med school
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Late dinner at my house?
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Yeah, what time are you thinking? I usually don’t get home until 8/8:30.
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SF Brewcraft gives free classes, they were super talkative and helpful at a ‘Night Out’ thing at the Academy of Sciences.
http://www.sfbrewcraft.com
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I still haven’t been to the Academy of Sciences thing. Every time it’s brought up I want to go.
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It’s fun, as a museum it’s somewhat dumbed down and not very interesting if you want information past a middle school level, planetarium is sweet, and the aquarium is decent, but for a night out it’s pretty fun, much younger crowd surprisingly than I had anticipated.
Getting a bunch of 20-somethings in a museum for drinks and dates, what could be better for the museum and society for that matter!?
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Lets be honest. The museum sucks. It took all the things about it that I cherished as a child and ruined them, adding almost nothing of interest at all besides potentially not falling down while Im in it and serving me alcohol while I go through it.
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Or…you’re no longer a child and feelings of nostalgia are clouding your impression. No, wait, that’s crazy. The museum must suck.
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Thats crazy talk. Next you will tell me that my house as a kid wasn’t shrunk by a shrink ray and I actually just remember it being bigger than it was.
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This certainly is true. However, they decided to change much of the subject matter. Basically what Im saying is that I didn’t like what the people that own your childhood house did by knocking out the wall between the dinning room and the kitchen to make it bigger.
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You have a point. I have seen pics where they enclosed the patio and turned it into some wort of day room or what have you and it looks god awful.
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the enclosed patio thing isn’t even close to the thing that makes me saddest.
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No they decided to rip out some of the best exhibits, the california room, the earthquake room, the insect room, put the penguins in the safari room which is just wrong, don’t have a round about anymore and replaced that with a really super mediocre rainforest dome that doesn’t have anything particularly interesting in it.
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The location of the penguins is indeed very weird.
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Also it prevents the thunder and lightning effect from when I was a kid which is pure unmitigated nostalgia. And I dont give a damn.
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Spawn1 dropped his pacifier in the piranha tank about four years back. Doesn’t that qualify as interesting?
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is it still there?
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In my head, there’s a very sedate baby piranha with distraught parents wondering how they’re ever going to ween him off that thing.
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I laughed.
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Heh!
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I’ve done a bit. It can be fun, but also not.
There are, in my experience, three levels of complexity/involvement. Maybe three and a half.
There are some kits where you don’t even need to boil water. Just throw some stuff in a jug with some tap water and put the plug on and wait. Then bottle it and wait again. That’s like level 0.5.
There are other kits or DIY set-ups where you boil water, add some malt extract and then, later, some hopps (or you can get pre-hopped malt extract), and let it boil some more. Then you cool it, put it in a carboy (or brewing bucket), add more water, pitch yeast, plug the carboy, and wait. Then bottles and waiting. That’s level 1.0.
You can enhance level 1.0 by crushing some grains and adding them to the initial warm-up to the boil; and by playing around with the hopps types, amounts, and timing, for various degrees of bitterness, aroma, etc. In this way, you can try to personalize the brew a bit, or at least more so than you can with the “light, medium, or dark” canned malted extracts that are mostly available. That’s level 1.5
OR, you could do a bunch of science. That’s like level 3.0. Not a whole lot in between.
It really helps, no matter what, to have some space. You can get away with level 0.5 or even 1.0 in your kitchen for a couple attempts, but if you’re going to do it as more than an amusing way to spend an evening once or twice, it’s nice to have some room to make a mess. You want to be able to control the water temp leading up to and during the boil, so it’s good to have one of those chili-cauldron, tail-gatin’ propane burners; and that shit boils over at the drop of a hat, so it’s good to have a linoleum or concrete floor, preferably with a drain.
Also, you have to keep all your bottles and brewing stuff super clean and then sanitized. This is really the kicker. You can make some killer brew and then ruin it before it ever gets to the bottles if your carboy/bucket isn’t sanitized, your stirring spoon, your lid or plug, your air lock…then of course your bottles, your bottling hose and wand, your bottle caps… Best to have a nice laundry room-type basin where you can dunk it all into a solution, and then have some sort of drying rack where all your sanitized stuff can air-dry before you use it. You can even buy a cool plastic drying tree to hang your bottles from if you want.
So yeah, it can be kind of a pain in the ass if you let it, but it’s super fun to try. I’ve never taken it too seriously and I’ve made a couple really nice batches. But I’ve screwed the sanitation up on a few and gotten nothing.
Find a supply store in your area. I bet those guys’ll talk your ear off if you let them.
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Here’s a good page to get you going, if you like: http://howtobrew.com/intro.html
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Thanks for the advice! Living in SF doesn’t give me all that much space, but we do have an unnecessarily large kitchen considering what was put in it, leaving some currently useless space free. I would probably start at a lower difficulty and work my way up, depending on how it goes.
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Start saving 22oz bottles now. 12oz bottles suck. The bigger the bottles, the fewer you have to wash, and fill, and cap.
And have fun. Looking back, I sound like a total downer. The whole process is awesome, and then you also might get some beer out of it.
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That’s probably a good way to look at it. I do have a fair number of 22oz bottles too!
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I’ve done level 0.5 with a kit. It gave me zero insight into the process of brewing, but the beer was pretty good.
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Aardvark is a very good homebrewer, I’ve had some of his stuff.
BTW, there is a new place opening up sometime this year right near Flora and the Fox that will be a Brew On Premise. Basically, if it’s like one that I used to go to, they have all the equipment and ingredients, and you can go in and brew from a variety of recipes. You brew your batch, they pump it into the fermentation carboy, and you come back a couple weeks later to bottle. There used to be a similar one in SF that I used several times, and it’s great because you can use good equipment and don’t have to do any of the cleanup and sanitizing. This one will supposedly have beer for sale on premise, which should make it a more viable business model than the one in SF. Diving Dog Brewhouse.
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That sounds all sorts of awesome
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FKup?
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Yup
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EVEN MORE SO VERY INTERESTED
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Yeah, we’ll have to keep an eye out for when it’s opening. So far only info seems to be on a FB page.
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I AGREE
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VERY INTERESTED.
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I’m late to this party, and sslinger exaggerates. I have brewed and I have made some good beers. I’ve also made a lot of mediocre beers. That said I really enjoy it and I’d be happy to show you the ropes. Do you have any equipment?
Also, I just noticed that the Albany Tap Room is now open. Haven’t been yet, but it’s only a block from my house, so it won’t be long before I have a report.
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I don’t have any equipment at the moment. I believe I have a LivingSocial towards a beginner’s kit from somewhere, but I don’t remember where. Awesome that you’ve explored this area though. It’s something I’m interested in.
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You should definitely find it. You would get more out of it to brew at your place on your equipment.
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Id really like to be there when ropes are shown
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For sure.
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Well I’m not exaggerating about what I had, it was very good. I just brewed a batch of stout with some friends this weekend, dug out my old equipment and they bought the ingredients. We’ll see how it turns out.
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And by all means we should check out the ATR.
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Well thank you. I try to only share the good stuff. Do you have equipment for all grain or extract?
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Extract. I mean, you start with a crushed grain tea bag but then add the dry and wet extracts. Basically pot, carboy, tubes, siphon, bottler, thermometer (broken this weekend, unfortunately), and triple scale hydrometer.
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Yeah, all grain (or even partial mash) is another level of equipment.
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On the general subject of beergeekery, West Berkeley is getting a “Sour Beer” craft brewery later this year.
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Awesome. I had a great gueuze in Belgium once, and I’ve had sour beers before at Toronado and Bistro Gambrinus in SF, so you can get them in those places more locally at least. I like sour beers.
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That’s just 3 blocks from my office. Awesome for my tongue, bad for my productivity.
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Uh oh. I enjoy sampling lots of beers, but as with all food/restaurant trends microbrewing appears to have gone pretty far past the point of market saturation. I expect a lot of these places to start going under. In this specific case I would have serious doubt about the demand for 750 ml bottles of beer at that price.
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Methinks I agree, especially with high rents.
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Next to Juan’s place, the antithesis of pricey beer geekery. But with a great photo of Billy Martin!
Bill Walton is calling this Cal-Stanford basketball game, and he sounds about as high as you would expect him to after spending the day in Berkeley.
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Goddamn it, I need to run into Walton one of these days and become lifelong friends with him.
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Today was your day. He is spouting some profound nonsense out there.
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Too bad I missed this… might have been worth putting up with watching basketball for…
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Did he mention Hookslide?
Guess I’m a bit sentimental tonight… Hell, I even dropped by the OC.
I miss some of you FKers. Hope folks are doing well.
G’nite.
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g. good to see you
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You’re always welcome back.
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A pleasure to see you here as always.
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Hey man. Good to see you!
Dial P for Poetic – thanks
I really enjoy reading your poetry
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Me too.
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Thanks both of you. I’m happy to share, and it’s even better if other people enjoy it!
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Good. Because it’s even better.
A’s win is it April yet.
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We squeezed in one more perfect weather day before things supposedly head south.
I usually avoid making Important Observations based on early ST, but one conclusion I’m rapidly coming to is that if Grant Green has a “natural position” it must be one that doesn’t require him to use a fielder’s glove. The 2B experiment doesn’t seem headed for more success than any of the others. On early returns, and since Weeks is hurt right now, I’ll bet on Lowrie as the 2B in April and then the Nakajima watch begins.
The battle for the last couple of roster spots is always fun in ST, though pretty irrelevant to the season since the winners are either in Sacramento or on the DFA list by the end of April. Anyway, Adam Rosales hasn’t done anything to hurt his chances.
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All of the noises coming out of Melvin indicate that Rosales is a favorite to make the team somehow.
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Melvin’s comments notwithstanding, I don’t see how the A’s can keep two jack-of-all-trades utility infielders. I suppose Rosy is ostensibly also a backup OF.
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If the choice is between Rosales and a true backup first baseman (be it Barton or someone else), then I agree. If the choice is between Rosales and Weeks/Sizemore, then I’m not so sure.
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Another scoreless inning for Okajima.
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He’s done OK too, but I think there are too many LH relievers who are out of options. Injury or suck in the line ahead of him will quite possibly bring him to Oakland at some point, but not to open the season.
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I read somewhere that he can opt out of his contract if he doesn’t make the major league squad. There is probably some team lacking left-handed relievers who would take him on.
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I thought he had a Brandon Moss type deal, where has to be called up or released by a certain point in the season. I can’t find a link for that at the moment though, so maybe I’m wrong.
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His opt-out date is June 1.
DRAMA IN THE WBC!! Italia with two in the top of the ninth to take a 6-5 lead on Mexico. Jason Grilli facing Adrian Gonzalez with two on/two out in the bottom of the ninth.
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Grilli plunks him. Bases loaded for the legendary Jorge Cantu.
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Cannot.
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SO MUCH DRAMA
IN THE WBC
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It’s kind of hard being Sergio R-omo.
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I see they’ve moved tomorrow’s Canada-Italy game to Chase Field due to the weather. I’m not sure I could take two WBC games in one day though.
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…and on further beer-fueled reflection, two baseball games in one day isn’t the worst thing in the world and is probably a better idea than a 250-mile RT drive for a cold rain-soaked few hours in the Sedona area. Of course there’s still a >0% chance that the storm will make a 180 and I’ll see A’s-M’s in Peoria tomorrow.
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FORZA ITALIA
Romo takes the loss. Gave up consecutive hits to Punto, Denorfia, Rizzo to cough up the lead.
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They always underestimate Punto
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Little Nicky Punto!
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And the Azure Piranhas.
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That “hit” he gave up to to Rizzo is an answer to the question “how do most outfielders have fielding percentage of 1.000?”
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Hmm, I see what you mean. That was a pretty routine fly ball, and it hit him right in the center of the glove.
Thank you, Star Trek: Voyager. Without you, no human being would have ever said the words “Get this cheese down to sickbay.”
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I dunno, I order a lot of different things down to sickbay.
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Including that specific cheese, though?
Dotel pitching now with Scutaro on second in the Venezuela-Dominican game.
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At one point in today’s A’s-Mariners game the pitching matchup was Jeremy Bonderman vs. Sonny Gray. Bonderman faced Michael Choice and Grant Green in one of his innings. James Simmons pitched on Tuesday so not today, and Addison Russell didn’t play today.
The Dutch are taking it to Cuba.
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More like the ‘West Indies’ but yeah, pretty surprised, bases drunk w/ no outs, not looking good.
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Yeah, the hitters are all from there, now that De Jong retired. But about half of the pitchers if not more are Europeans
Strongly considering going to Arizona on Sunday.
Finally turned in my Blackberry today. It was good while it lasted. Thanks Mike, for suggesting the Galaxy S3. It’s magical.
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Shouldn’t you be asleep?
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It’s a good day if I’m in bed before 0200.
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I’d be really interested in your feelings about typing emails after your switch.
The keyboard is the reason I haven’t done this yet.
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I recently switched to an iPhone after 3+ years on a blackberry. I miss the keyboard a lot, but that’s outweighed by everything else being better, especially when I’m traveling.
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Physical v. Virtual, you mean?
Don’t worry about that. For one, the virtual keyboards have pretty FKing good error correction and word prediction. Secondly, even though it’s a virtual keyboard it’s physically larger than the BB keyboards are, and I find it much easier to type on. I was never able to type quickly on a BB — I have to support them at work still and I’m counting the days until we finally support Android and iPhones.
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I was just in the bathroom, and seriously considered “accidentally” dropping my POS BB into the john.
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Literally the only good thing that they had going for them was Microsoft Exchange support. Both Android and Iphone have support as well, and as a bonus admins don’t have to deal with that godawful Blackberry Enterprise Server nonsense
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Having both, I will admit I do like the physical keyboard more. Even with the correction and predictive stuff I tend to fat finger the virtual keys more than the ones on the BB.
But yeah, I would still give up that one small benefit to not have a crappy BB for work. We actually now have a program where we can use our personal cell in lieu of the BB. I’m only worried about it causing issues, but I think I may go for it once I get my next phone (thinking about getting the s4 when it comes out..).
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Droid 4 has the slide out keyboard. I’m on a Droid 2 and love the keyboard.
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I hate touch screen keyboards. I hate touch screen in general. Fingerprints, smears, never quite knowing you’re hitting the right part of the screen with your fat thumbs, and no physical feedback from pressing.
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Huh. I literally have none of those issues. How recently have you tried one?
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Within the last year. It’s not just phones, I’ve had the same issues with the ipad I’ve had to deal with for work. Poking at a screen is just a poor method for typing.
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I’ve found the swipe style keyboards to be significantly better. Whatever algorithm they use to learn is really good, because the prediction works very well for me. I think actually pressing on the screen the entire time and sliding from letter to letter makes it easier to track rather than tapping different locations on the keyboard.
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Yeah, smearing finger prints across the screen that I’ll have to constantly have to wipe them off carries no interesting to me. Give me a real keyboard that I can actually feel the keys without looking any day.
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You should look into your oily skin. Moisturize!
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I don’t see how making my skin even more greasy is going to resolve the problem.
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They aren’t designed for people with claws, and this upsets both me and werewolves.
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Long nails on women will soon be a fashion of the past, or a sign that a woman is FAR too rich to actually touch her own tech (she has SERVANTS for that!)
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As a werewolf, I approve of this message.
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Meow?
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Meow.
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For a touch-screen that works with fingernails, try a Nokia Lumia (please!)
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Interesting. I’ll take a look at it.
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Most Android phones have a vibrate-on-touch option on their keyboards, or you can likely download a custom keyboard that has it if your phone doesn’t natively.
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Mine does. Not a fan of announcing to the world that I’m touching it.
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We still talking about your phone there, Teen Wolf?
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I like when *that* vibrates on touch and announces to the world I’m touching it.
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I rarely used my BB keyboard, but the S3 is a ton better than my previous touch screen. I love it so far.
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Man whoever told you about that phone must be FKing awesome.
(also, try SwiftKey. It’s better than the plain Samsung keyboard.)
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I had my BB for years. I had no complaints.
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He probably deserves some boobs.
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+1 on SwiftKey.
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I’m guessing John Kerry isn’t a fan.
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I’ve actually been speaking ( speech to text function) into my phone ( speech to text function) and just making small corrections here or there, way faster than typing for the most part if you have a solid connection.
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oops, poor edit sorry…
This may explain a few things.
Conditions are playable at the moment but I’m not going to fight the forecast. WBC day-night doubleheader at Chase Field here I come. I have a list of downtown ale houses to check out between games, don’t know what my level of alertness will be for the night game.
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Perhaps you’ll be lucky enough to sit next to a partisan fan section full of thundersticks and vuvuzuelas.
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There will have to be at least a few Mariachi bands with Mexico playing.
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About 80% of the crowd appeared to be rooting for Mexico. It was no better or worse than listening to U!S!A! for an entire game. I do wonder why the Mexicans around me felt they had to spend the entire game taking pictures of each other on their smart phones.
The first game was a different experience as it was general admission, just a few thousand people showed up to sit between the dugouts, so I was in the 4th row looking straight down the 1B line. Joey Votto and Justin Morneau are on the losing side of a game ended by a mercy rule for the first time since tee ball, if ever.
Oxfords >>> Loafers
Loafers are the pleated pants of shoes.
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I pretty much just wear sneakers, but I agree. Gotta have shoelaces.
There’s a war being waged in my brain over what to have for lunch: salad or carne asada burrito.
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Combine them.
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I’m trying to be less of a glutton.
The elder’s birthday Messi jersey has arrived.
It’s a fairly good knockoff. I’m rather impressed.
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Big plans?
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Chili’s on Sunday.
Look out, world.
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Look out behind!
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My son’s 10th birthday is next weekend. A sleepover with 5 or 6 other 10 year old boys at our house. God help me.
Aw Brandon how I’ll miss you…
Holy crap that’s a huge url can one of the lucky early FK gods edit this, too tired to figure out the html…
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Fixed. That was a great read.
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Thx for the fix!
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I hate letting his awesomeness be associated with any other team.
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Me too.
What?!
http://www.dezeen.com/2013/03/08/skyhouse-with-an-indoor-slide-by-david-hotson-and-ghislaine-vinas/
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Thanks for finding the place we’re going to live in when we move to NYC.
In line to see Oz Great and Powerful w kids. I’m legitimately excited.
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Oz? Really? We need a movie about him? He’s my least favorite FKer here.
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Now hold on. Maybe he dies in the end.
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I’d watch it if he died in the opening credits.
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lies
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Thank you!
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Surely she hates me more than you or I am not doing my job correctly.
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And thanks for bringing me back to Earth.
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You love me. I’m a smooth-talking, hot-ass motherFKer.
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Really?
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Hell yes.
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I just saw a full collection of Baum first editions last week, wanted to open them up so baaaad.
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Is that like the book geek equivalent of me wanting to open up my pants when I see a beautiful woman?
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Man, that was great! Strong cogent narrative, and the film itself was beautiful. 3D used to very good effect. FSU recommends!
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For me, 3D is the quickest way to ruin a movie.
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Agreed.
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High-five, Chewie.
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Except Piranhas 3D.
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I’m all Wicked out. Michelle Williams might sway me however.
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Good to know. We’ll make it this weekend’s date night movie.
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Report back please. Was considering taking the boys to see.
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Excellent. Me and both kids liked it a lot. Takes a little while to ramp up; the first 15 minutes are sent in Kansas and in black and white, like the original. Nice balance of action scenes and interpersonal stuff. A couple of good plot surprises. Visually stunning.
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awesome.
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i want to go see the witchies!
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You might like them, they’re not one-dimensional. Though apparently the witches in the full series of Baum books are even stronger women characters than in this movie.
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they are. his mama-in-law was jocelyn gage and he obviously liked her philosopy around women. :)
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So glad they recognized that I’m great and powerful.
Will anyone here be in Phoenix between Sunday and Tuesday? If so I’d love to meet up.
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I’m still here for tomorrow and Monday’s games, flying out Monday night.
Fosse is in mid-season complaining about the official scorer calling something an error form.
This game is big on SS prospects- Profar / Russell !
The Rangers are trying Aaron Cunningham on for size.
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Good luck with that.
Major bench clearing brawl in Canada-Mexico game right now.
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That was/still is something.
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Is the US caught in the middle?
GO PUERTO RICO GO!
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That just sounds like a PR campaign.
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asvd
the US found their bats, and now we have a pool. i’m still calling cuba though.
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forgot to note the irony. US beat italy with a big salami.
wasn’t here to mention that i found the mexico/US game’s US fans rather racist for chanting “you ese! you ese!”
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how in the world did i miss every single goal of the man-u/chelsea?
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Ha!
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Jajaja
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you and AV scored a pretty sweet combo win here.
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I think Japan’s in there too, also not sleeping on the DR and PR.
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i think japan and cuba knock each other out before the big final, which is good news for PR.
but i’m totally confused by the bracket. why can’t they fill in the TBDs with “winner of game x”? and make the relationship between rounds clearer?
http://web.worldbaseballclassic.com/wbc/2013/bracket/
if you click on the round two tokyo box, that bracket that ends with the “final” between japan and TBD, does that eliminate anyone, being then the championship round semifinal? or do both those teams advance to that championship round semifinal?
i mean, it looks like the final of the second round produces two winners total, one in miami and one in tokyo, but the beginning of the championship round seems to call for 4 teams to go in at the semifinals??
if you have a better bracket i could look, at please link.
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Nope, I was trying to figure it out too, not sure what the surrounding ‘finals’ box is supposed to signify either..
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i think i got it via wiki. that “final” is just for seeding the semis of the championship round. there’s no elimination. bad news for PR.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_World_Baseball_Classic#Round_2
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Thanks! and crap…
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I always root for Cuba.
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I root for the WBC to go away and be forgotten if they’re not going to bother to televise it on basic cable or FOX.