No, he’s Italian according to the WBC…. I meant Denorfia was briefly known as the Scarlet Pimpernel because someone thought he looked like Leslie Howard.
That was just to get started. I found a bagel shop for some actual coffee.
This is one of the best-located Motel 6s anywhere, right on the edge of the restaurant district of downtown Scottsdale. Still a Motel 6 obviously, but at the weekly rate the price is right.
I haven’t seen an A’s cap yet. Lots of Giants stuff, and a NASCAR couple just hopped on their Harley on the way out to the track.
Bill Walton, totally unprompted and out of context, decided to talk about Hookslide, my a cappella group, a few weeks after he’d seen us sing the national anthem:
Awesome! I’ve always wanted to meet Bill Walton and ask him what it was like (“How great was it?”) to be a hippie deadhead in the sports world of his playing days.
But why is a UCLA guy wearing Stanford gear?
"Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
He reminds me of that alien in 1 episode of TNG whose planet gets attacked and his wife is killed so he kills all of the other alien race and then recreates his home and his wife.
That actor was in at least 1 episode of The Twilight Zone. I was watching it one day, thinking “Boy, that voice sounds really familiar…” And then it clicked.
That and the racism thing, followed by his refusal to shake Patrice Evra’s hand during what was supposed to be the bury-the-hatchet game. Plus his smirky face.
yeah… but being sporting is perhaps a cultural imperative that some people don’t necessarily share.
was just talking with the fam yesterday about this. my wife asked what a brand name, cachafaz, meant. the internet says cheecky/sassy/sly. but as a noun, it means a cheat, a liar, the kind of guy who’d put the ball in with his hand during a WC game and get away with it. and you can tell by the use as a brand name that among my people, it’s a compliment!
watched it on replay, matching the picture with the pricing for seating, and i have a couple of questions.
it looks like they have a lot of fun at the supporters sections (108, 109). are those available to the casual fan, or are these only for the ultras. and i don’t mean officially, but, you know…
what’s up with supporters south? that’s weird.
the stands seem pretty short. is there numbered seating? (and do they fill it from the pitch up, or from the sky down?) or is it like our coli bleachers?
what’s better? it seems with soccer you want to have a higher than field level perspective to see the plays. i have no experience to compare with. the few times i’ve been to a soccer game i’ve been really high up.
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now that the xolos are world class, how fun would it be to go to TJ for a game? (and how fun would it have been to be there when they beat defending champs corinthians last week!!) they’re leading their group in the libertadores and are pretty sure to go through to the round of 16. the groups are still playing, so we don’t know the seeding, but it’s quite likely one of those south american power houses will be in TJ one of these dates: mid-week the last week of april, the first week of may, or the second week of may (if they do win their group, they get to play home the second leg). quarterfinals are midweek the last two weeks of may.
i’m thinking southwest to san diego, car rental to the border, walk across for the afternoon, catch the game at night, walk back and spend the night in SD. a little complicated and probably not for kids, but… anyone interested? (only if tickets are available ahead of time, of course. i don’t want to gamble on box-office only/day-of-game only situations. i have to research this.)
I have some friends in San Diego who go to Xolos games all the time. They have an absolute blast. I think the team may have a ticket kiosk in SD. If you’re serious about this I can get the skinny for you.
Speaking from my vast experience of going to one game at Buck Shaw and one at Stanford (although I am part of a season ticket group this year, so I’ll be learning more) my understanding is that you can buy tickets in the supporters sections. If you want to be an Ultra you start by showing up to their pregame tailgates. You might wish to peruse the lyrics to their songs in advance, but I think you can pick up some of the simpler ones on the fly, such as
we are san jose ultras
nobody can fuck with us
ohhhhhhohohohoh
ohhhhhhohohohoh
ohhhhhhohohohoh
ohhhhhhohohohoh
The other supporters group is the Casbah, I believe they’re a little more sedate.
The seats are reserved but they’re backless bleachers in most of the stadium, padded folding chairs in the pricey front few rows. The usher at Buck Shaw was a bit pissy, she wanted everyone to climb up the back stairs to the top of the bleachers and walk down to their seats, even though we were about three rows up from the bottom. My impression was that the cheaper seats were really just as good as the more expensive ones, but I don’t understand the game well enough to know the nuances of seating.
They have a nice array of food trucks just adjacent to the field, and there were some activities for kids beforehand, I think.
You must think I’m a bigger Arsenal supporter than I really am?
Truth be told I don’t really “have” an EPL team. It’s just too hard to find the time to follow the league enough to develop an attachment to any of the teams.
Kinda why I’m trying to make a point of getting into MLS. At least the Quakes are right here, and I know a couple guys who played with (and against) them about 10 years ago when MLS was still in its infancy.
And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here
-slusser
One of the things I enjoy most about following the EPL is that I have no emotional attachment to any of the teams. I just enjoy the drama, and my allegiances shift from game to game, and minute to minute.
That website is fun to play around with. Top ranked US team (LA Galaxy) comes in at 256 overall, just behind Al Ittihad, who are currently in 7th place (out of 14) in the Saudi Arabia Professional League.
Driving around Berkeley doing regular Saturday types of errands is so much better with an A’s game on the radio. Ken fucking Korach, bless you, the long desolate winter is over.
"Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
One of my favorite days of the year is today. Day 1 of the White Elephant Sale free day and when I leave the sale, my first spring taste of A’s baseball is always on the radio. And I got an ADORABLE walrus-shaped cookie jar :)
Oh yeah, I’ve done the preview several times. The BEST time to go is in between the preview sale weekend and the free weekend. If you show up during the open donation times at the WES warehouse and donate anything (no matter how much or how little) they give you a pass to go straight in on the spot and shop. Or you can bring the pass back to one of the other donation days and shop then. You pay 10% more above the price of the item, but it is worth it to avoid the crush of people. Much more civilized. I was so busy this year I could not make it down until the last donation day, which was last Saturday. So I did tons of shopping that day, and then I just kept thinking about that cookie jar, so I had to go back first thing this morning and grab it.
Tomorrow is a great day to go because as far as I know, everything is 50% off, and in the book dept you just pay like $5 or 7 for a bag and you can take as much as you can stuff in the bag.
I keep a list all year round of things I am looking for and usually I can check off about 80% of the things I’ve noted. This year I did pretty well, but I failed at finding some sort of dollhouse or barbie dream house I can turn into a haunted house for my yard Halloween display. They had a few, but way out of my budget.
It will change your life! I still love to go on the crazy open day, but it’s so nice to go when it is not as crowded and you can really ponder your purchases.
I endorse this comment. I’ve been taking mom to White Elephant Sale for the last 4 years. About to leave for it in a little bit. It has become a tradition now.
I used to dread this period between the superbowl and opening day. No more football to help fight off the winter blues and the sunshine of baseball a ways away. So I’ve started placing little road marks to check off on the way to opening day. The first spring training radio broadcast is one of them. There is a reason to look forward to Oscars that has nothing to do with movies. White Elephant Sale is a part of it now. Days slightly longer, evenings slightly warmer and First Fridays less shootier. Opening day around the corner.
I used to dread this period too, but I have made great peace with it this offseason. I’m curious to see what my viewing/listening habits will be this upcoming season.
What you said the other day really resonated with me. One of the reasons I love baseball season is that the radio offers a backdrop soundtrack for like eight months…driving on errands and vacations, working in the yard or on cars, sitting at my desk at work with Gameday running, the daily review of boxscores ritual…baseball season becomes the metronome of my life.
"Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
I was sitting behind the scouts today. One radar gun goes up, or three, or seven, depending on who’s pitching. For what it’s worth Gray’s fastball was running around 93-94 and Leon’s was about 92. They seemed to attract the most guns.
It’s almost 1130 on a Saturday night. I’m sitting in this house, contemplating sleep. Meanwhile, less than 10 miles away, Catherine Bell is partying in downtown Charleston. I run in the wrong circles.
I am working on a project to improve the health of LGBT individuals. We’re supposed to have a title for the project. Example of one project: Breast Cancer Awareness is “Putting Your Breast Foot Forward”.
There’s NO WAY that Brazilian guy missed first, what a godawful, ridiculous ghost of a call. If that happened to the A’s in a big game I might have to shoot heroin to let it go.
Never suck on a Blow Pop with the microphone open.
You can’t call a ghost miss of the bag in a big tournament where the team is facing elimination like that, it’s just inexcusable. Like I said if that was called on Coco or Weeks in a big game I might break things.
Never suck on a Blow Pop with the microphone open.
Although not for long. Someone on Twitter was saying that the cheerleaders’ chant is basically (Name of Taiwanese Batter), Hit A Homer! or (Name of Taiwanese Pitcher), Strike Him Out! Annoying but effective.
I’m rooting for the Netherlands because I love Blyleven, but their uniforms are terrible. It’s like the Battle of the Bay, but somehow the Giants’ pants and the A’s jerseys got lost and everyone had to make do with what was left.
Speaking of terrible…..I was reserving judgement on Guy Haberman until there was an actual postgame show to judge him on. Now I’m comfortable saying he stinks.
It’s a fight!
Tonights topic: A’s players in the suburbs toting assault rifles whilst nibbling on veal cutlets idling their v12 engines atop the third deck tarps (as seen on TV).
I don’t particularly like call-in shows, but Haberman’s approach to them seems to be to preface each call with a fifteen-minute monologue so completely unengaging and devoid of original thought that even having someone else say their name and where they were calling from shines by comparison.
Spring training tip: When the A’s are playing on the road, they work out at Phoenix Muni in the morning until about 11 a.m., then have lunch and hop on the bus. There’s a gate open next to the ticket windows so you can walk in, sit in the front row and watch the workouts and listen in on some of the conversation. There were about 30 people there this morning.
Off now to Talking Stick. WHERE IS MY SUNSHINE DAMMIT.
A very lazy day here at the ranch…I watched the movie, The Master for the second time…I’m a Paul Thomas Anderson fan but this one just leaves me cold…maybe if I watch it a third time I’ll get it.
yes! :)
great, thank you. spent yesterday weeding and prepping all the veggie gardens. today we went to the thrift store to get things for costumes but i ended up buying a lot more fun stuff. it’s been a nice weekend; the first one G and i have had off together in a loooooooooong time. :D
My only concern with it is we leave for Hawaii at the end of May for two months so I wonder how much we’d get out of it? I might try to talk my dad into growing some on his spread and they’ll be some when we get back.
It rains a lot here in the Spring and the Summer…it’s dry in the Winter. Starting in March we’ll get storms where we’ll get 3-4 inches in an hour or two.
Its actually not a bad thing to starve tomatoes once they are a bit established, you could get a gallon milk jug and suspend it over the bush, just put a pin-prick in the bottom – easy watering while you’re away!
Yeah, I think it would just be easier to have them at his place…he’s already taking the dog and the cat so he’s only going to come by our place once a week or so to check on it…the downside is the man has been known to kill fake plants…he has a brown thumb…and he didn’t get that the fun way.
I haven’t read that poem in probably 20 years. Stephen King introduced it to me. I’ve never been good at understanding poetry, so much of it sounded like the ramblings of a crazy person. But the imagery is amazing.
I think the perfect snack for this “film” might be something really cheesy…I know we have Vienna Sausages in the house, hmm…I wonder if we have any Cheese Whiz to go with it?
It really has been a slow day…so much so that I spent at least a good hour and half making up new playlists for my mp3 player…I expect several Grammys from the effort.
Lazy eye makes me think of when I was dating my best friend senior year of college and fucked it up. It was the most joyful, painful, and intense three months of my life.
In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
I’m sorry you feel that way but if I have to start watching what I post then I’d just stop coming around…my posts are not meant to be taken seriously…in real life I don’t think being afraid of clowns is strange but as Bed I try to post outrageous, odd posts that hopefully make folks laugh from time to time. I hope you’ll forgive me but I’m not going to change.
Fair enough…I’m sure many of my posts have upset folks from time to time…and people should feel free to tell me to go jump into a lake if they don’t like something I post.
truth. i’m extremely sensitive to this type of wording. i know you are not intentionally being misogynistic, bed. you have a daughter–she shouldn’t have to hear this kind of stuff, and you are not that kind of guy.
Well, I doubt she’s reading this blog and besides in real life I’m not Bed…when I’m doing my silly Bed type posts that’s a character I’m playing. In real life I don’t go around making non-stop sex jokes or talk about VORP.
You’re one of my all time favorite people on this site…and I hope it doesn’t come across that I’m upset in any way…I was just trying to explain my thought process.
same here. i’m not upset with you. just wanting to bring consciousness to how the dominant cultural language can be hurtful to women and girls. (and others, but i’m speaking just for women right now)
and how awesome it would be not to hear/read it here in our own little bubble of beauty.
I do occasionally get fear/revulsion twitches when exposed to unfamiliar genitalia. It’s usually the smell. Some people smell intoxicating and some people smell nauseating.
Okay, I admit it…part of me right now doesn’t just want to cross lines it wants me to jump over them while setting them on fire…but…as I’ve matured as a person…(I know crazy, right?)…I’ll instead continue posting about the mundane joys of Raisin Bran.
I haven’t missed the point one single time…again people I’ve been posting like I was the dumbest goofball in the world for four years now…I know I’m pissing many of you off…but I’m laughing and that’s always my main goal.
however, though that particular meaning(1) has little to do with women specifically nor their anatomy, it IS a sexist term… against men.(2) because saying that a weaker person is less masculine, even outside of the forced dichotomy between masculine/feminine,(3) that’s just not understanding how masculinity works.(4)
1) albeit easily confused, they’re still separable, just as much as the meanings of the dicks in “nixon was a dick who acted like a dick” are separable.
2) before we get into an argument that prejudiece + power = isms, therefore men can’t be ism’d against, consider that there is a power structure even within the hegemonic culture, so that some men use prejudice + power against others of the same identity.
3) a floor tile isn’t masculine. does that make it feminine?
4) ie, a limp dick is just as masculine as a hard one, just at different times of the masculine cycle.
5) tough thread. ouch. i’m at my parents’ house and i guess i’m this bored.
unfounded personal theory number eleventybilliontyfour: the classic depiction of the virgin mary is a dissimulation of a vulva, so that priests could have their porn and pray to it too.
almost inclined to put a NSFW here…
look at those folds! look at those pinks! look at that hood! how vulval can you get?
and they say there’s no women in the church… i mean, dear lourde, nice grotto!
Ugh…Lil Miss Aces melt down today. Got her hair cut and the bangs are too short. This caused her to lose her mind. Then she had to come to the kitchen to help with her dinner and miss some live TV. She hit “pause” but for whatever reason in her 10 yr old mind that ruined the viewing experience.
Good part is the first kid is in bed fir the night as of 7pm…
I feel for you…fortunately, we’ve had a lot fewer of those in the last several months with Spawn1, who has improved immensely since things were really bad a bit over a year ago (around the time of the 2nd FK-exodus). Spawn2 has started to skip naps occasionally, with devastating, although at least understandable, results.
A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
Today is Day 2 of quitting smoking pot. I feel pretty FKing miserable, for the most part.
Supposedly my brain will reach some sort of homeostasis after 2-3 weeks. I hope that the new baseline is a happy, functional place. I’m very afraid it won’t be, tho… Being stoned all the time covered my internal bitterness, and I’m scared that I’m going to become a negative useless asshole like my father. I really have very little faith or trust in humanity, and it was so much easier to navigate through them when I was numb to them.
So, if I become the evil fascist I’ve always known I could become, at least we’ll have a moment to point back to to see where the change was made.
That you’re determined to not be like your father will ensure that you aren’t. That is a question I struggle with (and have been recently struggling with), as well. I’ve had a couple of sleepless nights where I feel like I’m becoming the sexist and needy person (he was useless, too; but I know I don’t have those tendencies) that he was around the age that I am now and that ultimately led to my parents’ divorce. Keep posting updates here, too – we can help you through the rough patch.
A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
I think one of the great pursuits of life is to find how to find empathy in the squallier of human greed and treachery. I am a little suspect of self medicating since I think the ability to delude ones self about the value and effectiveness is never correctly estimated. I hope this path goes well for you.
In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
If you could please tell me which words you find offensive…I’d like to be able to alienate as many of you as possible tonight, if I can…I have a schedule to keep up with.
I just don’t understand why even if everything you were doing was/is perfectly peachy, which is surely the fuck isn’t, you wouldn’t just decide that jesa is a kind person who makes this place better and respect her as a friend, even if she was being completely unreasonable.
Also youre being a huge asshole. Like what I usually think of you, which is mostly irrational, but on hyper mega drive.
Kindly shut the fuck up.
In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
This is gratitous piling on. It can’t possibly be because you think the point about the word “pussy” hasn’t been made adequately, since it has, more than a dozen times. I must therefore conclude that your purpose in making the above post, and another 5 or so throughout this thread, is to inflame the situation. It’s pointless and petty and serves only to make matters worse, which you must realize.
"Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
No it really isn’t. It was my reaction to reading the thread at the time I read it which was shortly after it was written, which was the culmination of being shocked at even greater levels as I read down the thread at how far out of his way bed went to continually disrespect a friend of mine.
Furthermore, silence in the face of this kind of behavior is only one step above perpetrating it. As a cis straight white man, it is even more imperative that use that privilege to call out this kind of bullshit and support when people speak up like jesa did while people like bed try to paint her as being unreasonable.
In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
Honestly the fact that there weren’t a chorus of people coming to Jesa’s defense really disappoints me in the community. I thought we were better than that.
In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
Oh give me a fucking break, what sanctimonius bullshit. Perhaps we should start calling you out for your ingrained sexist attitudes every time you write about your serial womanizing. “Cis straight white male” privilege…sounds more like a holier than thou excuse to slam bed, which you appear to enjoy doing, or make yourself come of as enlightened, which you undeniably enjoy doing.
"Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
FSU has a point. And I saw bed’s responses as showing understanding of the issue, which is not always apparent to people when it is so ingrained in the language.
Agreed and in reading it, there was more than one time that both J and Bed seemed to understand each other and spent time talking about how they liked each other.
Seeing as how it looks like there were about 5 people actually on at the time, and I’m sure on a Sunday night even they were checking in sporadically, I don’t think it is realistic that a chorus of people would have jumped in to start shunning.
If he showed an understanding of the issue he was intentionally being mean to jesa which to be honest is a better reason for me to try to fuck his shit up than just being a misogynist. I defend my friends. Period.
In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
First I would say that I am hardly a womanizer. I am a serial dater but I do so with respect and dignity. Im not lecherous dishonest nor do I do it for sport and when I am in a relationship I consider my girlfriend a equal partner. There is no trail of tears of girls spurned by me wallowing in woe. In fact the last time I was the one that broke up something was over a year ago and I can count the number of times I’ve discontinued things on less than two hands. I’m usually the one that gets burned. Which has nothing to do with whether or not people should call other people pussies
I have made a conscious effort to avoid slamming Bed since I returned from my haitus since he expressed a desired to have better relations when I was gone. So basically you not only missed the target but the range.
In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
I strongly disagree. Bed used the term pussy as an intentionally derogatory term, which ascribes significantly more power to it.
As for my use of boys and girls. First I think your idea that for men it doesn’t matter being infantalized but for women it is significant is dead wrong. Look at the scores of insults (many homophobic in nature) aimed at men who are considered weak. Further my use of the terms emphasizes positive aspects of their meaning, a playful nature, a wonder, rather than tying them to something that is negative, which is significantly different usage than bed.
If you want to examine my language thats fine. There are probably things that I say and do that aren’t kosher, I don’t think this is one of them.
In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
My point here is this: when your goal is to change someone’s behavior in a way that requires rejection of past societal practice, that goal is almost always better advanced by pointing out the issue and letting the target absorb the lesson and then, maybe, adjust his practice. That goal is almost never served well by guilt, and is absolutely never served well by repeated rounds of guilt.
Also, as a former serial “dater” who like you used to pride myself in always being honest about expectations and not leaving a trail of tears, I still think you can only get to that place through sexist assumption of privilege (for example, the power a man has to do this without the world calling him a slut). I am not speaking in absolutes, I don’t pretend even today to have an enlightened attitude, and in fact I still struggle with the concepts.
Anyway, more flies with honey than vinegar and all that.
"Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
I don’t think you understand at all especially since you use the air quotes over “dater”. I literally go out on a bunch of dates. That and making out with them and not having second dates is pretty much it.
Im not fucking a bunch of girls and then being like hey i told you this isn’t going anywhere before we started. I hook up with people I actually like almost exclusively.
I get called a slut all the time. Yes I know that this is something that would have far more of an affect on me if I was a woman. But I also like dating those women.
Honestly, if you read psychological studies you will see that guilt and shaming are two of the most powerful social forces, so Im perfectly ok with using them here.
I am in no way perfect but I would also be fine with people pointing out my failings so that I can get better.
In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
That you have a habit of this only sustains my self-medicating point. That you argue the point to death proves you’re not in it to change behaviors, but to stroke your own debate-fueled ego.
And men leaping to the defense of women who are perfectly capable of defending themselves is one of the most common forms of sexist behavior one sees in supposedly progressive circles.
"Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
Well you attacked me personally so yes I will defend myself and my actions.
I think if you ask Jesa if her behavior has changed since I started doing it with her she would tell you that it has.
I agree that there is a fine line between defending friends and standing up in support of something versus a paternalistic response like you cited. From what went on here and somethings off line that you aren’t aware of, Im pretty comfortable with my role in this situation, though I will think about it.
In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
I think it can’t be qualified in any other way. Someone says this hurts me please stop, and then without reason the other person keeps on doing what they know is hurting the other person with no remorse has to be qualified that way.
In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
“[bed] went from not knowing about a slight to being educated”
I do not see any understanding from him in his writing, if I did I wouldn’t have said what I did.
If you want to talk about whether I am sexist or not (I probably am in ingrained ways though I try not to be) I am willing to have that conversation. However, I think declaring that I’m a ignorant, sexist, ego maniac especially if I disagree with your assessment or continue to discuss it, and running away as you have is bullshit.
In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
I’m sensitive ‘cuz I live this shit every day when stupid young males pick on me and treat their women like shit in front of me, and for some reason, society won’t let me carry a blackjack around to put a little fear of Goddess into those sons of bitches.
The language that you use here perpetuates that though. By choosing it instead of their girl friends or the women with whom they associate, or the women they treat badly it linguistically confirms that normative ownership. Obviously its not in the same ball park of bad that Bed’s is but if Im going point out that Bed’s is bad I should also point out that yours is too.
In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
Generally I agree with you, but we need a better verbal shorthand.
Also, I was reflecting that misogynists generally do feel like they own their wives/girlfriends, and the women go along with it, because they’ve internalized the patriarchal bullshit just as much as the men have.
Gather 100 guys in a room that call people “pussy” casually. Give them truth serum. Ask them if they think men are superior to women. Methinks you’re gonna get between 80-97 yesses.
Why associate yourself with those backwards fools if you don’t have to? You don’t think that way, do you?
I don’t associate myself with many of the posts I put up…humor is often wrong and I know many people think I’m not funny at all…they’re probably right.
to assert the rights of the comedian to make comedy about anything, even intentionally offensive things.
The Pilots had a little schism like this about a song I wrote called “Sex Torso.” It was a song about a nerd who spent his days photoshopping the arms and legs out of pornographic photos so he could masturbate to sexy pictures of quadruple amputees. However, it was not obvious that the song was about a nerd on a computer. Half the band thought I was singing like a serial killer, and it creeped them the fuck out. I ended up changing the lyrics of the third verse into a meta-commentary about how I had to change the original lyrics of the third verse.
What if they said they were being a dick? Or an asshole? I’m not saying any of the above conversation is wrong, but on some level everyone associates sexual anatomy as a negative adjective regardless of gender. Reacting to it gives it power over you.
When men make only 70% of what women make in the workplace and incur $800,000 in additional expenses over the average liftetime over a woman and have to put up with entire semi-mainstream subcultures that demean, degrade, and dehumanize them, then it will be a HUGE faux pas to call someone a dick or a cock or a ballsack. It’s like kicking someone when they’re already down.
Fair. But keep in mind I was simply pointing out *a* level of equality when it comes to the negative associationism of genital. Personally I’d much rather be something that’s soft, warm, smooth, and inviting than something callously aggressive trying to poke everything in sight, but that’s just me. If the general belief is that there’s power in words, instead of suggesting we not use certain words, I’d suggest giving better meaning towards the use of the word. That way when some sexist, racist, obnoxious dumbass tries to use said word, they’re empowering you while making a fool of themselves instead of degrading you. Personally I’d like to be able to call you a pussy and have it mean and be accepted as “I think you’re a sweet, softhearted, and welcoming/inviting person and therefore wish to get to know you better” instead.
I meant it looks as though I’m going off the rails…this isn’t my first time. I like humor that always goes one or two jokes too far…that isn’t working too well for me tonight.
2 baseball games yesterday, dinner with some of the baseball family, cocktails at a lounge for a friends birthday, an 8am soccer game this morning, 9am soccer game, 1130am soccer game, 5pm soccer team meeting, oh and working on the mission san diego model project all weekend.
And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here
-slusser
Imagine a further liberalized and more-but-less tolerant Northern California in the year 2113. What stuff do we do now that we will be demonized for then, like we often demonize racists and sexists now?
smoke
drink
use animal products
use unrenewable mineral and petroleum products
focus on breeding more humans rather than maximizing potential and output of extant humans
allow people of low intelligence to breed and raise their own children in unstimulating environments with minimal intervention
infinite-growth-possibility models not based on innovation
allow ourselves to be passively entertained for too large a portion of our existence
I know that. You know that. Not everybody accepts it, though, and those who don’t are gonna be thought of as stupid 100 years from now, moreso than they already are by cognoscenti.
thanks to those of you commented on the topic of language. i feel like i was heard by some of you, so thanks for that, too. my intention in addressing bed was to let him know how i was feeling. i had hoped for an agreement between friends around the use of certain words in certain ways; i’m not sure that happened as i think bed has left the building. i certainly own that i could have handled the conversation better, with more elegance, and with less emotion. life goes on.
i know that my language is not in the least bit perfect, and i know i, too, sometimes say things that are unintentionally hurtful. i am always trying to do better.
it is my hope that if people do choose to continue this conversation that it be from a place of respectful discussion and not debate. i like approaching discussion with an eye towards understanding, learning, and growth, looking for places of similarity and intersection. to me debate is about winners and losers, right or wrong, black or white. i have not found debate to be helpful in conversations that already deal with emotionally-charged issues. i don’t know that i will be participating in any further discussion around this right now so no expectations. we all have the right and the choice to say what we want to say in any way we wish, whether or not anyone else likes it.
I just read through this entire discussion. FWIW, I agree with the witch. Discussion always is more productive than debate, although finding what the line is that crosses over from one to the other is delicate. My own rule is that if I feel I am devolving into the latter, I take a step back, look at my words, and try to find a way to rephrase that isn’t hurtful. Words do matter. Laziness in how people words can end up with bad consequences. Or in the hell that is comment forums on Internet articles.
A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
I agree. And my feeling is that Jesa made her feelings clear in a gentle and non-confrontational way and I think we should respect her wishes. That being said, the discussion of the matter got a bit out of hand in my opinion. I think it could’ve been handled better by both sides.
That shouldn’t be too hard. We’d just need to set a trap with some Harry S. Truman memorabilia and Diet Coke inside it, play some Steve Winwood nearby, and wait.
Witchy, you are a soft, warm, and inviting person who isn’t easy to please, but when you are, willing to shower us with love… and I have a not-so-strange desire to lick you.
I’m pretty sure if I did that, it would violate the Communications Credo that we have to follow, or did until recently. Now, we have to follow the anti-harrassment policy.
A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
It’s weird watching the Australian team in the WBC. Their uniforms look like ours, and they have Luke Hughes and Ryan Rowland-Smith on their team.
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And Chris Snelling.
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one or two at bats?
And Chris Snelling!
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Who has been replaced by a pinch runner after singling in the 2nd.
#doyle
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That demned elusive Pimpernel.
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Oh wait, that was Denorfia, wasn’t it? They’re all getting to be a blur….
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I didn’t know Denorfia’s ‘Strine.
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No, he’s Italian according to the WBC…. I meant Denorfia was briefly known as the Scarlet Pimpernel because someone thought he looked like Leslie Howard.
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ha
Wait, but does Australia have Chris Snelling?
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Not any more.
CT didn’t give up a run in 3 qualifying games, winning 10-0, 16-0 and 9-0.
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Didn’t know Townsend was that good of a pitcher, hmm.
we had a nice dinner, woooooo! i can’t wait for our opening night tailgate!!!!
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Me too! I’m considering taking the day off.
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it should be a holiday. Cesar chavez
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I’m taking a half day at least.
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I have a furlough day. Whoo hoo!
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I hope you kids have lots of fun.
it’s the time for my favorite owl cam, live from Hayward! http://www.haywardrec.org/sc_owl_cam.html
Waking up with some rich, delicious Motel 6 coffee. Baseball is just a few hours away!
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Coffee from a Greater Phoenix Motel 6. Probably worth it for the baseball, I guess.
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That was just to get started. I found a bagel shop for some actual coffee.
This is one of the best-located Motel 6s anywhere, right on the edge of the restaurant district of downtown Scottsdale. Still a Motel 6 obviously, but at the weekly rate the price is right.
I haven’t seen an A’s cap yet. Lots of Giants stuff, and a NASCAR couple just hopped on their Harley on the way out to the track.
Bill Walton, totally unprompted and out of context, decided to talk about Hookslide, my a cappella group, a few weeks after he’d seen us sing the national anthem:
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Awesome! I’ve always wanted to meet Bill Walton and ask him what it was like (“How great was it?”) to be a hippie deadhead in the sports world of his playing days.
But why is a UCLA guy wearing Stanford gear?
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to remind people of his haircolor?
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Celebrity endorsement!
He reminds me of that alien in 1 episode of TNG whose planet gets attacked and his wife is killed so he kills all of the other alien race and then recreates his home and his wife.
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Yeah, huh!?!
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Isn’t that of the original serries?
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No, see GM’s comment below.
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There is an episode from the original serries that is similar
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/The_Man_Trap
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Huh. Not the episode I was referencing, but interesting.
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It was the first non pilot of TOS.
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Oh my god, totally:
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/The_Survivors_(episode)
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That actor was in at least 1 episode of The Twilight Zone. I was watching it one day, thinking “Boy, that voice sounds really familiar…” And then it clicked.
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That is amazing!!!! Love it!
Ridiculous goal of the day (until it gets taken down.)
Suarez slips while taking the free-kick but his soft shot beats the keeper off a defender’s face and the goal post.
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My ridiculous goal of the day is to learn how to tie my shoes with my hands tied behind my back.
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Ugh, Suarez is such a horse’s ass.
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does this feeling stem from the ghana game of the 2010 WC?
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That and the racism thing, followed by his refusal to shake Patrice Evra’s hand during what was supposed to be the bury-the-hatchet game. Plus his smirky face.
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oof. didn’t know about the evra thing. just looked it up. that alone’s enough for me. i had no beef with the handball.
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I would have forgiven him for the handball thing, even though I thought it was unsporting.
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yeah… but being sporting is perhaps a cultural imperative that some people don’t necessarily share.
was just talking with the fam yesterday about this. my wife asked what a brand name, cachafaz, meant. the internet says cheecky/sassy/sly. but as a noun, it means a cheat, a liar, the kind of guy who’d put the ball in with his hand during a WC game and get away with it. and you can tell by the use as a brand name that among my people, it’s a compliment!
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Does Maradona endorse them? It works on several levels!
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Speaking of guys to get their hands dirty, Thierry Henry and the energy drinks are playing the Quakes now on ESPN2.
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i’ve been banned from the TV. not everybody can pull a 6-event sunday like i can.
:(
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The light that burns twice as bright burns for half as long – and you have burned so very, very brightly AV.
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Watch out, he’ll crush your skull.
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i’ve certainly done questionable things.
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Buck Shaw looks bigger on TV.
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I need to get out to a match or several and bring the boys. Pretty sure they’d have a FKing blast.
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Definitely.
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What a finish
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Nice time to score your first professional goal!
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Oh wow, I didn’t know he was a noob.
I want to get into MLS more this year. That’s my goal. (heh)
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watched it on replay, matching the picture with the pricing for seating, and i have a couple of questions.
it looks like they have a lot of fun at the supporters sections (108, 109). are those available to the casual fan, or are these only for the ultras. and i don’t mean officially, but, you know…
what’s up with supporters south? that’s weird.
the stands seem pretty short. is there numbered seating? (and do they fill it from the pitch up, or from the sky down?) or is it like our coli bleachers?
what’s better? it seems with soccer you want to have a higher than field level perspective to see the plays. i have no experience to compare with. the few times i’ve been to a soccer game i’ve been really high up.
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now that the xolos are world class, how fun would it be to go to TJ for a game? (and how fun would it have been to be there when they beat defending champs corinthians last week!!) they’re leading their group in the libertadores and are pretty sure to go through to the round of 16. the groups are still playing, so we don’t know the seeding, but it’s quite likely one of those south american power houses will be in TJ one of these dates: mid-week the last week of april, the first week of may, or the second week of may (if they do win their group, they get to play home the second leg). quarterfinals are midweek the last two weeks of may.
i’m thinking southwest to san diego, car rental to the border, walk across for the afternoon, catch the game at night, walk back and spend the night in SD. a little complicated and probably not for kids, but… anyone interested? (only if tickets are available ahead of time, of course. i don’t want to gamble on box-office only/day-of-game only situations. i have to research this.)
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also, i promise not to wear rival colors. even if it’s boca. (which i doubt, since they can’t get a win to save bianchi’s life these days.)
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I have some friends in San Diego who go to Xolos games all the time. They have an absolute blast. I think the team may have a ticket kiosk in SD. If you’re serious about this I can get the skinny for you.
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i’m pretty serious. i’ll know how so once the group stage is done and we find out who’s in the bracket.
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If you end up going there to root for Boca I’ll have to at least give my friends your picture so they can identify the body if necessary.
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lol.
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Speaking from my vast experience of going to one game at Buck Shaw and one at Stanford (although I am part of a season ticket group this year, so I’ll be learning more) my understanding is that you can buy tickets in the supporters sections. If you want to be an Ultra you start by showing up to their pregame tailgates. You might wish to peruse the lyrics to their songs in advance, but I think you can pick up some of the simpler ones on the fly, such as
The other supporters group is the Casbah, I believe they’re a little more sedate.
The seats are reserved but they’re backless bleachers in most of the stadium, padded folding chairs in the pricey front few rows. The usher at Buck Shaw was a bit pissy, she wanted everyone to climb up the back stairs to the top of the bleachers and walk down to their seats, even though we were about three rows up from the bottom. My impression was that the cheaper seats were really just as good as the more expensive ones, but I don’t understand the game well enough to know the nuances of seating.
They have a nice array of food trucks just adjacent to the field, and there were some activities for kids beforehand, I think.
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good to see that ultras all over the world are equally stupid
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My littler one keeps asking me if the earthquakes are my favorite soccer team.
He also tells me chelsea is the best.
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He’s wrong, and you are failing in your duty of parental guidance.
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I have no idea how to answer him. I will own that failure.
I don’t know how to address the problem if I could even identify one.
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Spurs would be one way to go:
- strong Jewish heritage (however dubious it might be, even the gentiles adopt the “Yid Army” moniker)
- Billy Beane’s favorite team
- license to taunt MikeV
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Arsenal is who I root for when I pretend to care. Mostly because they had Henry back in the day.
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noted.
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You must think I’m a bigger Arsenal supporter than I really am?
Truth be told I don’t really “have” an EPL team. It’s just too hard to find the time to follow the league enough to develop an attachment to any of the teams.
Kinda why I’m trying to make a point of getting into MLS. At least the Quakes are right here, and I know a couple guys who played with (and against) them about 10 years ago when MLS was still in its infancy.
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One of the things I enjoy most about following the EPL is that I have no emotional attachment to any of the teams. I just enjoy the drama, and my allegiances shift from game to game, and minute to minute.
Except I sort of always hate Chelsea.
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well…
http://www.iffhs.de/?10f42e00fa2d17f73702fa3016e23c17f7370eff3702bb1c2bbb6f28f53512
though this seems more accurate in immediate terms: http://www.footballdatabase.com/worldrankings.php?Rnk=1
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Yeah – that second one is waaaaaay closer to the truth.
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That website is fun to play around with. Top ranked US team (LA Galaxy) comes in at 256 overall, just behind Al Ittihad, who are currently in 7th place (out of 14) in the Saudi Arabia Professional League.
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Ahead of Aston Villa and QPR though!
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Earthquakes (626) come in ranked ahead of San Francisco (628)!
…San Francisco, Panama
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TWSS
No, wait. I think she said “What? You’re finished?”
Is anyone else seeing half resolution on the MLB gameday screen?
FSUbait
http://deadspin.com/5987979/17-sports-moments-that-will-restore-your-faith-in-humanity
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That was awesome. My brother and nephew were at that first one, the other day at UVA.
Hillbilly homer, 3-0 A’s
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Reddick?
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Mhmm
Nakajima, 2 HBP in 2 AB.
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Just stick that F’in thing out there!
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twss
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(she said about his ass as she prepared to peg her hestitant but interested boyfriend)
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Good times… good times…
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I can always count on you for my daily laugh-out-loud, NFSW comment to brighten my afternoon, Kay.
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Glad I could help!
Driving around Berkeley doing regular Saturday types of errands is so much better with an A’s game on the radio. Ken fucking Korach, bless you, the long desolate winter is over.
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One of my favorite days of the year is today. Day 1 of the White Elephant Sale free day and when I leave the sale, my first spring taste of A’s baseball is always on the radio. And I got an ADORABLE walrus-shaped cookie jar :)
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I’ve never been to the Oakland Museum’s famous White Elephant sale. Everyone raves about it.
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If you are a thrift shopper at all, I highly recommend it. It’s one of my favorite things in the whole world.
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Have you ever been tempted to do the preview sale? How much of a zoo was it today?
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Oh yeah, I’ve done the preview several times. The BEST time to go is in between the preview sale weekend and the free weekend. If you show up during the open donation times at the WES warehouse and donate anything (no matter how much or how little) they give you a pass to go straight in on the spot and shop. Or you can bring the pass back to one of the other donation days and shop then. You pay 10% more above the price of the item, but it is worth it to avoid the crush of people. Much more civilized. I was so busy this year I could not make it down until the last donation day, which was last Saturday. So I did tons of shopping that day, and then I just kept thinking about that cookie jar, so I had to go back first thing this morning and grab it.
Tomorrow is a great day to go because as far as I know, everything is 50% off, and in the book dept you just pay like $5 or 7 for a bag and you can take as much as you can stuff in the bag.
I keep a list all year round of things I am looking for and usually I can check off about 80% of the things I’ve noted. This year I did pretty well, but I failed at finding some sort of dollhouse or barbie dream house I can turn into a haunted house for my yard Halloween display. They had a few, but way out of my budget.
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That’s excellent intelligence for next year!
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FKing field trip!
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Really really.
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Definitely trying this next year. Thanks!
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It will change your life! I still love to go on the crazy open day, but it’s so nice to go when it is not as crowded and you can really ponder your purchases.
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I do enjoy not being elbowed out of the way by harried shoppers in frantic pursuit of a Tibetan clay urn.
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Tagline?!?
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Heh. I don’t think so.
Stomper dies a little inside when unworthy blurbs make taglines.
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Did you see they raised 1.8 million? That sale is amazing.
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I hadn’t but that’s terrific.
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I endorse this comment. I’ve been taking mom to White Elephant Sale for the last 4 years. About to leave for it in a little bit. It has become a tradition now.
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is that this weekend?
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Yep!
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I used to dread this period between the superbowl and opening day. No more football to help fight off the winter blues and the sunshine of baseball a ways away. So I’ve started placing little road marks to check off on the way to opening day. The first spring training radio broadcast is one of them. There is a reason to look forward to Oscars that has nothing to do with movies. White Elephant Sale is a part of it now. Days slightly longer, evenings slightly warmer and First Fridays less shootier. Opening day around the corner.
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I used to dread this period too, but I have made great peace with it this offseason. I’m curious to see what my viewing/listening habits will be this upcoming season.
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What you said the other day really resonated with me. One of the reasons I love baseball season is that the radio offers a backdrop soundtrack for like eight months…driving on errands and vacations, working in the yard or on cars, sitting at my desk at work with Gameday running, the daily review of boxscores ritual…baseball season becomes the metronome of my life.
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yup
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Agreed.
However, I have other metronomes in my life now that I didn’t have before. I hope all the various clicks work rhythmically together.
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And then there’s Vince’s voice to snap you back to reality causing that involuntary eye twitch that follows you into the off season.
Monster shot to dead center by Moss. 5-0 A’s!
I really need to figure out how to make Tina Fey fall in love with me.
A’s win!
I was sitting behind the scouts today. One radar gun goes up, or three, or seven, depending on who’s pitching. For what it’s worth Gray’s fastball was running around 93-94 and Leon’s was about 92. They seemed to attract the most guns.
I would like Alfredo Despaigne on the A’s. The guy is built exactly like Cespedes. OTOH Brazil’s catcher looks like he’s 15.
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Is it not Yan Gomes? He’s the only major leaguer they have.
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He’s not on their roster. I’m guessing the catcher I’m talking about is the 5’4 guy.
The Brazil pitcher has a no hitter through 4 against a powerhouse Cuban lineup. Wow.
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Cuban manager makes his catcher bunt with 2 strikes. Shouts at catcher when he bunts it foul.
Next Cuban guy breaks up no hitter with single.
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Arruebarruena, try fitting that on a uniform
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Duchscherererererer
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Heh, as good as Salty’s!
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Weird. He was on their qualifying roster. I guess Cleveland didn’t want him flying off to Japan.
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Eh, Yan probably thought his time would be better used competing for a MLB job than going 3 and out with Brazil.
Over/under on number of Cuban defectors during the tournament: 1.5?
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Defectors to Japan? Or are you assuming they make the finals?
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assuming they make the finals
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I’ll go under, but only because the players may not want to risk defection in a city whose most famous street is named Castro.
It’s almost 1130 on a Saturday night. I’m sitting in this house, contemplating sleep. Meanwhile, less than 10 miles away, Catherine Bell is partying in downtown Charleston. I run in the wrong circles.
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No offense to any of you, of course. I’d much rather be hanging out with all of you. But Catherine Bell would be my 2nd choice.
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I would consider flying to SC for some Catherine Bell, so no offense taken.
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Well, she works here so she’s probably out down there a lot. And I think she’s single. Not as if that makes a difference in my chances with her.
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Catherine Bell…is she the lady from that military lawyer show that I never watched? The word jugs comes to mind for some reason.
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Jag. And yes, she has magnificence jugs.
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Well, good for her and may God bless America.
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She did soft core porn.
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Well…good for her and may God bless America.
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What?!? Well there goes the rest of my night…
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I think I learned this from LL. In fact, I believe I’ve seen the video.
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I saw it last night. My wrist is killing me today.
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She also is the Good Witch (not the Oz type-a series of TV movies the Aces family watches..)
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She sure has cast a spell on me.
Really hoping this isn’t the direction Gameday is going in, seems ‘less’ somehow, too much ‘disappearance’ when the flash refreshes.
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Not seeing a classic option either. :(
I am working on a project to improve the health of LGBT individuals. We’re supposed to have a title for the project. Example of one project: Breast Cancer Awareness is “Putting Your Breast Foot Forward”.
I currently don’t have a title. Suggestions?
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Good health is !
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Let’s Get Better Today.
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brilliant!
or, the more inclusive version…
Let’s Get Better Today, Queens!
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If you want to get full inclusive, flip out Quick for Queens.
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We need a positive “I” word for intersex.
Let’s Get Better Today, Questing Incarnates!
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Improving Health: No Orientation Needed
??
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Too confusing, although better than mine.
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Since you’re not in Northern California, LGBT is good enough.
“Let’s Get Better Today” is the obvious winner.
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Let’s Get Better Together!
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winner!!!
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yup!
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Game. Set. Match.
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Thanks, team! Good work!
I am starving. I’ve only eaten a bowl of cereal today.
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With vodka in place of milk?
You’ll be fine.
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That sounds like the worst possible idea, behind gin in cereal.
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So you do prefer Vodka.
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At least give me Baileys here!
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Cereal in your gin is worse.
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At least cereal might subtract from the gin taste a bit
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Breakfast of champions.
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Rum Chata.
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I’d have a second bowl of cereal.
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If only I’d thought of this…
Holy carp that dude is big!
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TWSS
That was too close, Cuba gets a huge break there.
There’s NO WAY that Brazilian guy missed first, what a godawful, ridiculous ghost of a call. If that happened to the A’s in a big game I might have to shoot heroin to let it go.
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Yeah, if he did it was by millimeters, what a crock, totally killed the rally.
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You can’t call a ghost miss of the bag in a big tournament where the team is facing elimination like that, it’s just inexcusable. Like I said if that was called on Coco or Weeks in a big game I might break things.
It got quiet in that stadium….
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Although not for long. Someone on Twitter was saying that the cheerleaders’ chant is basically (Name of Taiwanese Batter), Hit A Homer! or (Name of Taiwanese Pitcher), Strike Him Out! Annoying but effective.
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I’m rooting for the Netherlands because I love Blyleven, but their uniforms are terrible. It’s like the Battle of the Bay, but somehow the Giants’ pants and the A’s jerseys got lost and everyone had to make do with what was left.
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Speaking of terrible…..I was reserving judgement on Guy Haberman until there was an actual postgame show to judge him on. Now I’m comfortable saying he stinks.
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I don’t understand that hire at all.
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it really makes me sad. i keep hoping he’ll get better.
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We could do a better job.
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i seriously believe that.
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Personally I think me belligerently arguing with A’s fans/the general public/CT would be great radio.
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“It’s the DFA show, where we prove that no one is stupider than an A’s fan with a different opinion!”
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It’s a fight!
Tonights topic: A’s players in the suburbs toting assault rifles whilst nibbling on veal cutlets idling their v12 engines atop the third deck tarps (as seen on TV).
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oops *from* the suburbs.
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Win
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My favorite CT show moment was when you called in and explained UZR to him. That was surreal.
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yea that was fun.
But i liked the one where I destroyed his Zito was good in Oak because of the juice and now hes in SF he cant pitch because hes off of it argument.
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I don’t remember the last sports call in show I listened to…it’s just not a format I enjoy no matter who the host is.
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I don’t particularly like call-in shows, but Haberman’s approach to them seems to be to preface each call with a fifteen-minute monologue so completely unengaging and devoid of original thought that even having someone else say their name and where they were calling from shines by comparison.
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i was telling G he sounds so much like he just graduated broadcasting school. i was blushing listening to him yesterday; i felt so embarrassed.
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Well, it sounds like something everyone should skip then.
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I don’t get why they didn’t hire Rick Tittle. God forbid they hire someone who’s actually an A’s fan. Roxy Bernstein would’ve been fine too.
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Hup Holland!
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Honkbal!
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Gestolen honk!
Sagh. I miss my laptop screen.
Spring training tip: When the A’s are playing on the road, they work out at Phoenix Muni in the morning until about 11 a.m., then have lunch and hop on the bus. There’s a gate open next to the ticket windows so you can walk in, sit in the front row and watch the workouts and listen in on some of the conversation. There were about 30 people there this morning.
Off now to Talking Stick. WHERE IS MY SUNSHINE DAMMIT.
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Nice!
Beware the movie Ides of March…you’ll get lost in Ryan Gosling’s eyes.
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They’re dreamy…
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Yep…although if I ever switch teams I think Oz has first dibs.
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I’m okay with that. I’m not about to switch teams for him.
A very lazy day here at the ranch…I watched the movie, The Master for the second time…I’m a Paul Thomas Anderson fan but this one just leaves me cold…maybe if I watch it a third time I’ll get it.
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hi bed! lazy days are the best. :)
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They are so rare in my life that I enjoy them for all they’re worth…how are you doing this fine evening?
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yes! :)
great, thank you. spent yesterday weeding and prepping all the veggie gardens. today we went to the thrift store to get things for costumes but i ended up buying a lot more fun stuff. it’s been a nice weekend; the first one G and i have had off together in a loooooooooong time. :D
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Nice!
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found a scrying bowl…wooooooo! :D
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Nice!
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it is so perfect. so excited for it’s first voyage at our Dark Moon ritual next monday.
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I think I’m going to put in some tomatoes this year in my backyard…it’s so hard to find good tomatoes at the store.
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do it! you will never go back. :D
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My only concern with it is we leave for Hawaii at the end of May for two months so I wonder how much we’d get out of it? I might try to talk my dad into growing some on his spread and they’ll be some when we get back.
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how much rain do you get there in the months you would be gone? probably best bet to have dad plant them at his place.
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It rains a lot here in the Spring and the Summer…it’s dry in the Winter. Starting in March we’ll get storms where we’ll get 3-4 inches in an hour or two.
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Its actually not a bad thing to starve tomatoes once they are a bit established, you could get a gallon milk jug and suspend it over the bush, just put a pin-prick in the bottom – easy watering while you’re away!
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but…two months! doesn’t it get super hot there during the summer?
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Yep, although this part of Arkansas is among the cooler parts…a lot of 87 degree days…in Little Rock those days are closer to 95 or so.
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i like brian’s idea, and i’d have dad check on them as well if you choose to plant them at your place.
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Yeah, I think it would just be easier to have them at his place…he’s already taking the dog and the cat so he’s only going to come by our place once a week or so to check on it…the downside is the man has been known to kill fake plants…he has a brown thumb…and he didn’t get that the fun way.
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have him use brian’s idea. :D
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ps–my baby tomatoes are growing in my guest room right now
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Theyll get more flavor this way
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Hurray for you and G getting some quality time together!
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seriously. it’s been a strange time. not bad, but odd. :)
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Were you looking for a come up?
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Pandora just played that song right now. crazy.
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was it fucking awesome?
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I rocked that motherFKer
So Opening Day is on April Fools Day?…I guess that fits with the Commissioner baseball has.
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it is also benito’s 11th birthday!
So Tyler Perry in a movie based on James Patterson book…hmm…that sounds like the greatest thing ever.
The only published author worse than James Patterson is Snooki…maybe.
To be fair I’ve never seen a Tyler Perry movie…I don’t think I’m in the demo.
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That’s a good thing!
Screw it…I’m bored…a really shitty movie might be fun…download Mr. I-Tunes.
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Die Hard marathon!
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I’m in for the first three!…the 13 year old version of me still can’t believe I didn’t go see part 5 at the movies.
It’s March. Let’s get drunk and screw.
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Special Hawaii version for you, Bed.
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Awesome
It’s March. Let’s get down with OPP.
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Orleans Parish Prison? That’s a ways south from where you’re at.
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True enough but my musk is strong enough to travel.
It’s March. Let’s pretend that one night never happened…wait, you’re what?…(changes name moves to Canada)
It’s March. Let’s show April how it’s done.
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Hey now. April is the month I was born, so it obviously knows how to fuck up your life.
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http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/300×300/57521745.png
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What an unfortunate name.
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I haven’t looked it up, but I am pretty sure that’s not her name
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I used to have that album. Very twee.
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I have a couple of hers and related bands. She was around alot in the 90s when I lived in LA
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Cruelest. T.S. Elliot
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I will show you fear in a handful of dust.
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I always thought “a shadow behind you” sounded kind of suspect.
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I haven’t read that poem in probably 20 years. Stephen King introduced it to me. I’ve never been good at understanding poetry, so much of it sounded like the ramblings of a crazy person. But the imagery is amazing.
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also hitler
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I’ve got a ways to go before I catch up to his level of being a worthless shit.
It’s March. Let’s play the Match Game!
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My twitter avatar is Charles Nelson Reilly holding up a card that says GAY
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Wait, what?…are you telling me Charles Nelson Reilly was gay? I haven’t been this shocked since the last time I really wasn’t shocked about something.
It’s March. Let’s do the Hokey-Pokey and turn ourselves around.
Shouldn’t this blog have more posts about Nelson Rockefeller on it?
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and of course Rocky died the way all men want to die…on top of a chick 40 years younger than him.
Now, Free Kraut I want you to read all my posts from start to finish without blinking your eyes.
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You’re the bravest blog I’ve ever known…now put it back in, it fell out.
Someone told me there’s this thing called the World Baseball Classic and it’s going on right now…I told them to shut up and stop taking drugs.
I just mistakenly nailed my gf in between the eyes w/ a broccoli rubber band, her reaction- laughter. #theone
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yay!
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I did that once myself…the lawsuit is still pending.
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Aw!
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Lucky bastard
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what the hell is a broccoli rubber band?
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Big fat rubber band that holds a bunch of broccoli together for when you buy it at the grocery store.
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Too bad. A rubber band made out of broccoli would be much better
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I was hoping “broccoli rubber” was a new music genre I hadn’t heard of.
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Or a way to keep vegetables from spreading std’s.
I think the perfect snack for this “film” might be something really cheesy…I know we have Vienna Sausages in the house, hmm…I wonder if we have any Cheese Whiz to go with it?
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My wife likes Vienna Sausages, Spam and me…I think this means she digs cheap meat.
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and like those I’m salty and kind of an off pink.
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heh.
It really has been a slow day…so much so that I spent at least a good hour and half making up new playlists for my mp3 player…I expect several Grammys from the effort.
Anytime I get a collect call I know it’s Bridget the Midget calling from jail…again.
I wonder what ever happened to Conan O’Brien?
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tbs?
When I post in other people’s lounges I try to be more respectful and talk more about baseball…so far so good.
I like playing with my house remote control it makes me feel like a Bond villain…send it the sharks with freakin’ lasers on their heads.
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or maybe send in the sharks…or maybe not.
I like to think that Bryan Adams is the 80′s Canadian version of Ryan Adams.
Just an epic 3 part mp3 shuffle…AC/DC, Sinatra and Silversun Pickups.
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I’m back in black and I did it my way with my lazy eye.
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Lazy eye makes me think of when I was dating my best friend senior year of college and fucked it up. It was the most joyful, painful, and intense three months of my life.
My posts per appearance must be off the charts.
So you really don’t have anything to say to me then after what you did?
Looking back I should have know my relationship was doomed with my former girlfriend by the fact that she never missed an episode of The Mentalist.
and FK…I would like to dip my bald head in oil and rub it all over your body.
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im going to pass
Hmm…so it turns out there is a limit on cloud storage for porn.
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multiple services ftw
You know what if you’re afraid of clowns you’re a pussy…now, if you’re afraid of the capital gains tax, well…that I understand.
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i am afraid of clowns. can we agree not to use names for women’s body parts as other ways of saying wimp, etc. though? it’s just not okay.
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Most of what I post isn’t okay…sometimes I go over the line but then that line is different for everybody.
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it just makes me cringe.
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I’m sorry you feel that way but if I have to start watching what I post then I’d just stop coming around…my posts are not meant to be taken seriously…in real life I don’t think being afraid of clowns is strange but as Bed I try to post outrageous, odd posts that hopefully make folks laugh from time to time. I hope you’ll forgive me but I’m not going to change.
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do what you do, babe. just saying it sucks when i hear that kind of languaging.
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Fair enough…I’m sure many of my posts have upset folks from time to time…and people should feel free to tell me to go jump into a lake if they don’t like something I post.
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i will. :)
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its also nonsensical.
how can something be un tough when its built to push a football sized thing through a baseball sized hole?
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truth. i’m extremely sensitive to this type of wording. i know you are not intentionally being misogynistic, bed. you have a daughter–she shouldn’t have to hear this kind of stuff, and you are not that kind of guy.
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Well, I doubt she’s reading this blog and besides in real life I’m not Bed…when I’m doing my silly Bed type posts that’s a character I’m playing. In real life I don’t go around making non-stop sex jokes or talk about VORP.
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still.
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90% of what I post is nonsensical…that’s sort of the point.
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i hear that. and i want you to know that when you say those things, it hurts, and i know it’s not your intention to do so.
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Well, I really am sorry that it’s hurtful…I guess I’ll try not to use that word but I often post without thinking so it could happen again.
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just give it some thought; that’s all i ask. you’re one of the good guys.
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In real life I try to be…on this site I just try to be goofy but again I’ll try not to.
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stay goofy.
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goofy is fine.
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I meant I’ll try not to use the word…the day I stop being goofy is the day I hopefully die.
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yes yes, I am not getting on you for it. I don’t think J is either. We know it was a gag,
You sill come with the funny everytime
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i love you, bed. we’re all friends here, and that means i will tell you when i don’t like how things are said sometimes.
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Good answer. We also would have accepted “Stop being a dick!”
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heh. you really get me, j. :P
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You’re one of my all time favorite people on this site…and I hope it doesn’t come across that I’m upset in any way…I was just trying to explain my thought process.
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same here. i’m not upset with you. just wanting to bring consciousness to how the dominant cultural language can be hurtful to women and girls. (and others, but i’m speaking just for women right now)
and how awesome it would be not to hear/read it here in our own little bubble of beauty.
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you are tied for my favorite with everyone but FSU
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You’re in my top 500, Ed.
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Sagh.
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I would say just kidding, but it took you almost a hour to respond, so…
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#win
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Or you could just acknowledge that you were being an asshole and hurt someone that most of us care about.
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Charles Nelson Reilly was afraid of circus tents.
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I have at least 27 things I can post here…I’m going to stay classy though…see how that works for a change.
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and pussy
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What if I’m afraid of pussies?
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They do envelope.
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I do occasionally get fear/revulsion twitches when exposed to unfamiliar genitalia. It’s usually the smell. Some people smell intoxicating and some people smell nauseating.
It’s always a good sign when I start posting and everyone leaves.
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oh crap you are on to us
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and it’s only taken me four years.
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It must have been the power play.
CARL!!!!
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WEATHERS!!!!
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THE STORM!!!
Well, I guess I’ll keep my jokes on safer ground and return to posts about anal.
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winner
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i don’t think you understood what i said.
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God, I hope you’re joking…how about we let this go, okay? Please read my tag line after all my posts.
All my posts tonight will make more sense if read them in the voice of Wink Martindale.
I’m doing a lot better in the market lately…I might have to switch back to being a Republican.
If I could have one actors career…well, besides Ron Jeremy’s, it would have to be Philip Seymour Hoffman’s. Even in bad movies he’s great.
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He really is a great actor
Just so you know in real life I also don’t drink Perrier water, play golf or wear polo shirts…I do however, kill hobos on occasion.
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Who doesn’t?
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Hmm…fair point. I mean what else are hobos good for?
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doing yardwork in a half-assed manner at a snail’s pace in exchange for a 12 pack of light beer?
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Wait they like light beer…what pussies.
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Yep, I’m going to straight to hell for that one.
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You just disrespected a time mage and a witch who has dominion over the great void.
Hell is fapping in a Howard Johnson restroom compared to what beings like that can do to you when they’re in their true forms.
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Oh well, I had to die from something.
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You say die like it’s something that only happens once ;)
silly boy…
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heh
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in what world do you think that this joke would be appropriate after the witch kindly asked you to not be a mysoginist?
Okay, I admit it…part of me right now doesn’t just want to cross lines it wants me to jump over them while setting them on fire…but…as I’ve matured as a person…(I know crazy, right?)…I’ll instead continue posting about the mundane joys of Raisin Bran.
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The raisins are plump.
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I like the ones that don’t have sugar on them better…I’m boring like that.
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Speaking of boring have I mentioned that I’ve often mentioned Al Gore?
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who is not actually boring
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one of my favorite cereals
The producer just told me we’ve lost some ratings points tonight…good thing I’m still beating NBC.
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NBC is coming in seventh in the ratings behind four other networks, us, and a popular ham radio operator out of Des Moines.
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Well, to be fair that guy does ROCK!
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Breaker Four Niner he rocks!
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Naw.
Bed: Still kind of a dick.
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Now that you mention it, if those Russian gals had named their band Dick Riot, the Church and Putin would have loved them!
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I’ve heard much of the Church is pro dick.
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Most churches, seems like.
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I go to my wife’s Catholic church four times a year…for this she lets me see her boobs and her pus…uh, better not.
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I think you may still be missing the point.
There’s a difference between using pussy as a term for female genitalia and using it as a synonym for weakness/cowardice?
My understanding was that Jesa was specifically asking you to avoid the latter.
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I haven’t missed the point one single time…again people I’ve been posting like I was the dumbest goofball in the world for four years now…I know I’m pissing many of you off…but I’m laughing and that’s always my main goal.
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there is a HUGE difference between being funny and using misogynististic words.
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So you’re Andy Kaufmaning, then.
You’re not nearly as good at it as he was.
Just sayin’
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I’m not in the same universe as him. He was a genius, I’m just a guy.
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Almost all insults are about implying that the other person is feminine or possibly gay when taken at face value, right?
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Except for a few insults that are directed at women to imply that they are too manly.
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Came across this, seemed relevant.
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indeed. and the difference is etymological. pussy meaning weak has little to do with genitalia (originally).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pussy#Weakness
however, though that particular meaning(1) has little to do with women specifically nor their anatomy, it IS a sexist term… against men.(2) because saying that a weaker person is less masculine, even outside of the forced dichotomy between masculine/feminine,(3) that’s just not understanding how masculinity works.(4)
1) albeit easily confused, they’re still separable, just as much as the meanings of the dicks in “nixon was a dick who acted like a dick” are separable.
2) before we get into an argument that prejudiece + power = isms, therefore men can’t be ism’d against, consider that there is a power structure even within the hegemonic culture, so that some men use prejudice + power against others of the same identity.
3) a floor tile isn’t masculine. does that make it feminine?
4) ie, a limp dick is just as masculine as a hard one, just at different times of the masculine cycle.
5) tough thread. ouch. i’m at my parents’ house and i guess i’m this bored.
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Welcome back.
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unfounded personal theory number eleventybilliontyfour: the classic depiction of the virgin mary is a dissimulation of a vulva, so that priests could have their porn and pray to it too.
almost inclined to put a NSFW here…
look at those folds! look at those pinks! look at that hood! how vulval can you get?
and they say there’s no women in the church… i mean, dear lourde, nice grotto!
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1. Whoa, damn, never noticed that but you’re right. ‘Ave Maria indeed!
2. “dear lourde, nice grotto!” Bwah hah hah hah!
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It’s like a 3D puzzle image where if you unfocus, her hands become big boobs.
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Teehee. Putin.
Ugh…Lil Miss Aces melt down today. Got her hair cut and the bangs are too short. This caused her to lose her mind. Then she had to come to the kitchen to help with her dinner and miss some live TV. She hit “pause” but for whatever reason in her 10 yr old mind that ruined the viewing experience.
Good part is the first kid is in bed fir the night as of 7pm…
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I was cranky today too.
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I was all weekend. And it was a real lazy weekend that I should have enjoyed. Instead I spent most of it grumbling and overthinking.
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One of those days.
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I feel for you…fortunately, we’ve had a lot fewer of those in the last several months with Spawn1, who has improved immensely since things were really bad a bit over a year ago (around the time of the 2nd FK-exodus). Spawn2 has started to skip naps occasionally, with devastating, although at least understandable, results.
Bed: He’s comfortable with the uncomfortable.
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Good. Then I can tell you what I did to relieve the crankiness.
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Fire away.
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I didn’t say I was going to, just that I can.
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What a tease…I kind of like that.
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Now you’re sounding like Bloom.
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Wow…okay. I guess I’ve lost everyone tonight.
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I still love you.
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BWHAHA
Bed: Wait until he gets to the jokes about the Swedish.
Bed: Still caffeine free.
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Kay: Pretty much constantly stoned since October 1997
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It’s good to be consistent.
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That sounds awful
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October 1997 was awful. Ever since then it’s been self-medicating morphed into low-level addiction maintenance.
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Today is Day 2 of quitting smoking pot. I feel pretty FKing miserable, for the most part.
Supposedly my brain will reach some sort of homeostasis after 2-3 weeks. I hope that the new baseline is a happy, functional place. I’m very afraid it won’t be, tho… Being stoned all the time covered my internal bitterness, and I’m scared that I’m going to become a negative useless asshole like my father. I really have very little faith or trust in humanity, and it was so much easier to navigate through them when I was numb to them.
So, if I become the evil fascist I’ve always known I could become, at least we’ll have a moment to point back to to see where the change was made.
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That you’re determined to not be like your father will ensure that you aren’t. That is a question I struggle with (and have been recently struggling with), as well. I’ve had a couple of sleepless nights where I feel like I’m becoming the sexist and needy person (he was useless, too; but I know I don’t have those tendencies) that he was around the age that I am now and that ultimately led to my parents’ divorce. Keep posting updates here, too – we can help you through the rough patch.
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Seconded. Congrats on taking the first big step.
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I think one of the great pursuits of life is to find how to find empathy in the squallier of human greed and treachery. I am a little suspect of self medicating since I think the ability to delude ones self about the value and effectiveness is never correctly estimated. I hope this path goes well for you.
Bed: They don’t make em’ like that anymore, thank goodness.
Bed: Just remember…sirbed was worse.
Bed: Played by attijah since 2009.
Bed: Half as cool as Kay, twice as cool as Oz.
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Psh, whatever. I’m way cooler than you. I’m a hip cat. Quit talkin’ that jive, turkey.
Bed: (insert played out joke here)
Bed: A poor Bloom substitute.
Alrighty then…let’s get back to Nelson Rockefeller posts shall we.
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Just direct your feet to the Beddy side of the street…
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It’s either the sunny side of the street or where all those hobos I like to kill live…can’t remember which.
This Lounge has been brought to you by uncomfortable silence…now in six delicious flavors.
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heh
Have I mentioned how much I like pussy…cats?
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Oh, you can do better than that.
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Clearly you haven’t been following my work.
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Clearly you have.
If you don’t like my posts you’re a pus…uh…push up bra!…wait, that doesn’t make any sense…oh, that’s right my posts aren’t supposed to make any sense.
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Too far, you bastard.
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Again…clearly you haven’t been following my work.
If you could please tell me which words you find offensive…I’d like to be able to alienate as many of you as possible tonight, if I can…I have a schedule to keep up with.
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wtf is your problem tonight? i just don’t get it.
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I don’t have a problem…I’m just trying to have some fun. I’m not for everyone and as always you can feel free to ignore what I post.
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ooooh, yeah, misogyny is SO FUCKING HIGH-LARIOUS.
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Oh good grief.
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exactly.
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I just don’t understand why even if everything you were doing was/is perfectly peachy, which is surely the fuck isn’t, you wouldn’t just decide that jesa is a kind person who makes this place better and respect her as a friend, even if she was being completely unreasonable.
Also youre being a huge asshole. Like what I usually think of you, which is mostly irrational, but on hyper mega drive.
Kindly shut the fuck up.
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This is gratitous piling on. It can’t possibly be because you think the point about the word “pussy” hasn’t been made adequately, since it has, more than a dozen times. I must therefore conclude that your purpose in making the above post, and another 5 or so throughout this thread, is to inflame the situation. It’s pointless and petty and serves only to make matters worse, which you must realize.
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No it really isn’t. It was my reaction to reading the thread at the time I read it which was shortly after it was written, which was the culmination of being shocked at even greater levels as I read down the thread at how far out of his way bed went to continually disrespect a friend of mine.
Furthermore, silence in the face of this kind of behavior is only one step above perpetrating it. As a cis straight white man, it is even more imperative that use that privilege to call out this kind of bullshit and support when people speak up like jesa did while people like bed try to paint her as being unreasonable.
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Honestly the fact that there weren’t a chorus of people coming to Jesa’s defense really disappoints me in the community. I thought we were better than that.
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Oh give me a fucking break, what sanctimonius bullshit. Perhaps we should start calling you out for your ingrained sexist attitudes every time you write about your serial womanizing. “Cis straight white male” privilege…sounds more like a holier than thou excuse to slam bed, which you appear to enjoy doing, or make yourself come of as enlightened, which you undeniably enjoy doing.
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FSU has a point. And I saw bed’s responses as showing understanding of the issue, which is not always apparent to people when it is so ingrained in the language.
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Agreed and in reading it, there was more than one time that both J and Bed seemed to understand each other and spent time talking about how they liked each other.
Seeing as how it looks like there were about 5 people actually on at the time, and I’m sure on a Sunday night even they were checking in sporadically, I don’t think it is realistic that a chorus of people would have jumped in to start shunning.
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If he showed an understanding of the issue he was intentionally being mean to jesa which to be honest is a better reason for me to try to fuck his shit up than just being a misogynist. I defend my friends. Period.
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I didn’t see it that way
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First I would say that I am hardly a womanizer. I am a serial dater but I do so with respect and dignity. Im not lecherous dishonest nor do I do it for sport and when I am in a relationship I consider my girlfriend a equal partner. There is no trail of tears of girls spurned by me wallowing in woe. In fact the last time I was the one that broke up something was over a year ago and I can count the number of times I’ve discontinued things on less than two hands. I’m usually the one that gets burned. Which has nothing to do with whether or not people should call other people pussies
I have made a conscious effort to avoid slamming Bed since I returned from my haitus since he expressed a desired to have better relations when I was gone. So basically you not only missed the target but the range.
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these women that you date? are they “girls?”
Language is power.
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I am a boy (and so are my male cohorts) and they are girls
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Then you are infantalizing women.
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and men.
Its all play. If everyone just accepted that we would both have more fun and be less hurtful.
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no, you are not infantalizing men. that is like saying calling someone a cracker is equivalent to, you know.
using that language is exactly what you are railing against bed for, and you are defending yourself on the same terms.
You are no different. I assume you are going to cal yourself out for it now?
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I strongly disagree. Bed used the term pussy as an intentionally derogatory term, which ascribes significantly more power to it.
As for my use of boys and girls. First I think your idea that for men it doesn’t matter being infantalized but for women it is significant is dead wrong. Look at the scores of insults (many homophobic in nature) aimed at men who are considered weak. Further my use of the terms emphasizes positive aspects of their meaning, a playful nature, a wonder, rather than tying them to something that is negative, which is significantly different usage than bed.
If you want to examine my language thats fine. There are probably things that I say and do that aren’t kosher, I don’t think this is one of them.
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My point here is this: when your goal is to change someone’s behavior in a way that requires rejection of past societal practice, that goal is almost always better advanced by pointing out the issue and letting the target absorb the lesson and then, maybe, adjust his practice. That goal is almost never served well by guilt, and is absolutely never served well by repeated rounds of guilt.
Also, as a former serial “dater” who like you used to pride myself in always being honest about expectations and not leaving a trail of tears, I still think you can only get to that place through sexist assumption of privilege (for example, the power a man has to do this without the world calling him a slut). I am not speaking in absolutes, I don’t pretend even today to have an enlightened attitude, and in fact I still struggle with the concepts.
Anyway, more flies with honey than vinegar and all that.
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I don’t think you understand at all especially since you use the air quotes over “dater”. I literally go out on a bunch of dates. That and making out with them and not having second dates is pretty much it.
Im not fucking a bunch of girls and then being like hey i told you this isn’t going anywhere before we started. I hook up with people I actually like almost exclusively.
I get called a slut all the time. Yes I know that this is something that would have far more of an affect on me if I was a woman. But I also like dating those women.
Honestly, if you read psychological studies you will see that guilt and shaming are two of the most powerful social forces, so Im perfectly ok with using them here.
I am in no way perfect but I would also be fine with people pointing out my failings so that I can get better.
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Man, you sure are blind. Stop self-medicating with self-righteousness.
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whatever dude. im more than comfortable defending my friends especially when its against sexist bullshit.
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what about when its your own sexist bullshit?
Look at how you define the relationship you talk about. that is objectifying women in your language.
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Which construction are you referring to?
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Also I would like to point out I do this pretty consistently (mikev with the friend zone crap, jesa with the use of the term gay)
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That you have a habit of this only sustains my self-medicating point. That you argue the point to death proves you’re not in it to change behaviors, but to stroke your own debate-fueled ego.
And men leaping to the defense of women who are perfectly capable of defending themselves is one of the most common forms of sexist behavior one sees in supposedly progressive circles.
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Well you attacked me personally so yes I will defend myself and my actions.
I think if you ask Jesa if her behavior has changed since I started doing it with her she would tell you that it has.
I agree that there is a fine line between defending friends and standing up in support of something versus a paternalistic response like you cited. From what went on here and somethings off line that you aren’t aware of, Im pretty comfortable with my role in this situation, though I will think about it.
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I think Jesa made her point perfectly well; I didn’t perceive her as being attacked or in need of anyone’s defense.
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Beds continual use of it is an attack.
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Well, we disagree on that point. so I guess that is fair
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I think it can’t be qualified in any other way. Someone says this hurts me please stop, and then without reason the other person keeps on doing what they know is hurting the other person with no remorse has to be qualified that way.
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I will let you have the last word, because you always do.
However know that you are not understanding mine, nor FSUs point because you are blinded by you need to be correct, righteous.
also know that the difference between you and bed in this conversation is, he went from not knowing about a slight to being educated and you didn’t.
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turtles.
(can that be the last word now? I like that word, it’s fun to say.)
turtles.
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Rutabaga is better.
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Pumper.nickel.
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BARELY KNEW HER
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Ozz, you are so gay. And by that, I mean you are absolutely FABULOUS.
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Yeah, I’m not too bad.
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“[bed] went from not knowing about a slight to being educated”
I do not see any understanding from him in his writing, if I did I wouldn’t have said what I did.
If you want to talk about whether I am sexist or not (I probably am in ingrained ways though I try not to be) I am willing to have that conversation. However, I think declaring that I’m a ignorant, sexist, ego maniac especially if I disagree with your assessment or continue to discuss it, and running away as you have is bullshit.
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and misogyny and gay bashing go hand in hand, because in the hater’s eyes, fags and bitches ain’t shit.
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hierarchy of patriarchy. this.
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I’m sensitive ‘cuz I live this shit every day when stupid young males pick on me and treat their women like shit in front of me, and for some reason, society won’t let me carry a blackjack around to put a little fear of Goddess into those sons of bitches.
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this. i’m so done with this shit, and i just don’t want to ever see it hear. i can’t be a silent witness to it.
and bed, if anyone else had said that tonight, i would have said something. know it’s not about you.
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*or hear it
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No one owns women.
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Tell THEM that, sweetie. They’re the ones that need to hear it, although they won’t listen or believe you.
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and by THEM I mean the ignorant misogynist unemployable male
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Women also need to stand up and demand better.
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The language that you use here perpetuates that though. By choosing it instead of their girl friends or the women with whom they associate, or the women they treat badly it linguistically confirms that normative ownership. Obviously its not in the same ball park of bad that Bed’s is but if Im going point out that Bed’s is bad I should also point out that yours is too.
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Generally I agree with you, but we need a better verbal shorthand.
Also, I was reflecting that misogynists generally do feel like they own their wives/girlfriends, and the women go along with it, because they’ve internalized the patriarchal bullshit just as much as the men have.
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they think they own would have worked.
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Lemme explain it this way…
Gather 100 guys in a room that call people “pussy” casually. Give them truth serum. Ask them if they think men are superior to women. Methinks you’re gonna get between 80-97 yesses.
Why associate yourself with those backwards fools if you don’t have to? You don’t think that way, do you?
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I don’t associate myself with many of the posts I put up…humor is often wrong and I know many people think I’m not funny at all…they’re probably right.
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then why would you insist on continuing?
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to assert the rights of the comedian to make comedy about anything, even intentionally offensive things.
The Pilots had a little schism like this about a song I wrote called “Sex Torso.” It was a song about a nerd who spent his days photoshopping the arms and legs out of pornographic photos so he could masturbate to sexy pictures of quadruple amputees. However, it was not obvious that the song was about a nerd on a computer. Half the band thought I was singing like a serial killer, and it creeped them the fuck out. I ended up changing the lyrics of the third verse into a meta-commentary about how I had to change the original lyrics of the third verse.
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What if they said they were being a dick? Or an asshole? I’m not saying any of the above conversation is wrong, but on some level everyone associates sexual anatomy as a negative adjective regardless of gender. Reacting to it gives it power over you.
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Language is truth.
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Okay.
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Derida ftw
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Huh?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Derrida
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Ugh, no.
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say more.
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When men make only 70% of what women make in the workplace and incur $800,000 in additional expenses over the average liftetime over a woman and have to put up with entire semi-mainstream subcultures that demean, degrade, and dehumanize them, then it will be a HUGE faux pas to call someone a dick or a cock or a ballsack. It’s like kicking someone when they’re already down.
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Fair. But keep in mind I was simply pointing out *a* level of equality when it comes to the negative associationism of genital. Personally I’d much rather be something that’s soft, warm, smooth, and inviting than something callously aggressive trying to poke everything in sight, but that’s just me. If the general belief is that there’s power in words, instead of suggesting we not use certain words, I’d suggest giving better meaning towards the use of the word. That way when some sexist, racist, obnoxious dumbass tries to use said word, they’re empowering you while making a fool of themselves instead of degrading you. Personally I’d like to be able to call you a pussy and have it mean and be accepted as “I think you’re a sweet, softhearted, and welcoming/inviting person and therefore wish to get to know you better” instead.
Fuck it…I’m fired up now.
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Let’s go hunt down wanna-be tough guys on Kiefer Blvd. I seem to be a magnet for them. We can use me as bait.
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I’m in…hell I’ve been in one fight my entire life and I lost…badly, so I’m one tough son of a bitch.
The name is Prick, Massive Prick.
Okay, I admit it…I am kind of an asshole…but I’m doing it for the kids so it’s okay.
Oh well, we knew this thing was going to probably go way off the rails one day…today is as good a day as any.
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how does differing opinions equate with going off the rails?
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I meant it looks as though I’m going off the rails…this isn’t my first time. I like humor that always goes one or two jokes too far…that isn’t working too well for me tonight.
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We now begin the 16th chapter of exodus, wherein bed goes off the deep end to prove he can use a word he really doesnt care about much.
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Can I dance in the aisle with a snake while you read it?
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Yes but we have to be done by 9:15 so we can start bingo on time
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Well, as long as I don’t try to dive into the shallow end.
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Good thinkin’, Dale!
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:D
Next time I hope the joke that pisses people off is at least funny.
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i am forever grateful to the people who have called me out about my languaging, including DFA, who called me out for my inappropriate use of “gay.”
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I’m rarely grateful for DFA calling me out on something.
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i know. this was different. :P
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I cracked a joke about one of the doctors this weekend that probably should have gotten me fired. He loved it. It was a proud moment.
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When you go for a risky joke and it works…that’s always a sweet moment.
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I think it’s also *very* different in person.
spent.
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Heads up, now is not a good time to mention boobies.
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I want to be you when I grow up.
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Like that’s ever gonna happen.
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lol. there is a line i don’t know where to draw yet. :)
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Apparently it’s not at boobies.
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it might be. i will get back to you on that.
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(it’s a context thing)
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2 baseball games yesterday, dinner with some of the baseball family, cocktails at a lounge for a friends birthday, an 8am soccer game this morning, 9am soccer game, 1130am soccer game, 5pm soccer team meeting, oh and working on the mission san diego model project all weekend.
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how’s the shoulder holding up?
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It’s fine. It’s bugging me but I don’t have time to deal with injuries, I have shit to do.
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Ain’t nobody got time for that!
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Someone has a kid in 4th grade
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No I just really wanted to do a model of mission san diego
See ya in the next life, Free Kraut.
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Noooooooooooooooooo
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You can catch him hosting next year’s Oscars.
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Heh. But don’t go, Bed.
Anyone still awake?
If so HEY!!!!!
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(new lounge—->)
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I just had a fight over Simple Minds vs Duran Duran.
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don’t, you….
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F’getaboutit
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They were better on the ‘filmic’ side
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Dude I would so play this if it wasn’t totally silent here. :(
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…will you call my name??? as you walk on by? when you walk away?
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I use to have that as my ringtone
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<3 sigh...
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AWESOME
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its actually a really great ringtone since your phone says HEY HEY HEY
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ooooooooo ooooooo oooooo ooooo
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and you chose duran duran right?
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It was too close, not to be a sucker, still split.
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Duran Duran has the best karaoke line up of any 80s band.
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What’s your fav?
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Hungry Like a Wolf or Rio. Girls on Film is fun too
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I’m a Rio guy!
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Its because she dances on the sand huh
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I started a new lounge come play
Hmm…
Imagine a further liberalized and more-but-less tolerant Northern California in the year 2113. What stuff do we do now that we will be demonized for then, like we often demonize racists and sexists now?
smoke
drink
use animal products
use unrenewable mineral and petroleum products
focus on breeding more humans rather than maximizing potential and output of extant humans
allow people of low intelligence to breed and raise their own children in unstimulating environments with minimal intervention
infinite-growth-possibility models not based on innovation
allow ourselves to be passively entertained for too large a portion of our existence
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Capitalist infinite growth models are all based on moving the aggregate supply outward using increases in capital creation which namely is technology.
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I know that. You know that. Not everybody accepts it, though, and those who don’t are gonna be thought of as stupid 100 years from now, moreso than they already are by cognoscenti.
thanks to those of you commented on the topic of language. i feel like i was heard by some of you, so thanks for that, too. my intention in addressing bed was to let him know how i was feeling. i had hoped for an agreement between friends around the use of certain words in certain ways; i’m not sure that happened as i think bed has left the building. i certainly own that i could have handled the conversation better, with more elegance, and with less emotion. life goes on.
i know that my language is not in the least bit perfect, and i know i, too, sometimes say things that are unintentionally hurtful. i am always trying to do better.
it is my hope that if people do choose to continue this conversation that it be from a place of respectful discussion and not debate. i like approaching discussion with an eye towards understanding, learning, and growth, looking for places of similarity and intersection. to me debate is about winners and losers, right or wrong, black or white. i have not found debate to be helpful in conversations that already deal with emotionally-charged issues. i don’t know that i will be participating in any further discussion around this right now so no expectations. we all have the right and the choice to say what we want to say in any way we wish, whether or not anyone else likes it.
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Well said.
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I just read through this entire discussion. FWIW, I agree with the witch. Discussion always is more productive than debate, although finding what the line is that crosses over from one to the other is delicate. My own rule is that if I feel I am devolving into the latter, I take a step back, look at my words, and try to find a way to rephrase that isn’t hurtful. Words do matter. Laziness in how people words can end up with bad consequences. Or in the hell that is comment forums on Internet articles.
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I agree. And my feeling is that Jesa made her feelings clear in a gentle and non-confrontational way and I think we should respect her wishes. That being said, the discussion of the matter got a bit out of hand in my opinion. I think it could’ve been handled better by both sides.
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Agreed. I do hope that bed’s leave is temporary; I am weary of these dramatic incidents; I hoped that they could be avoided once we all left the OC.
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He’s one of my favorite people here and I hope he comes back. I think he probably will, eventually.
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That shouldn’t be too hard. We’d just need to set a trap with some Harry S. Truman memorabilia and Diet Coke inside it, play some Steve Winwood nearby, and wait.
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You mean Phil Collins. Oh, and maybe we should get Bridget the Midget too.
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Witchy, you are a soft, warm, and inviting person who isn’t easy to please, but when you are, willing to shower us with love… and I have a not-so-strange desire to lick you.
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Whoa.
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Too soon?
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No, it’s just… I was thinking the same thing. You beat me to it.
I start working for Dr. Asshole next week! Yes!
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Congratulations, I think!
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I call him an asshole, but he teaches me so much. And he would do anything for me. I love working with him.
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I know. I just can’t imagine being able to refer to any superiors here in that way (fortunately, I have no need to). Some of my counterparts, however…
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I call him asshole to his face.
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I’m pretty sure if I did that, it would violate the Communications Credo that we have to follow, or did until recently. Now, we have to follow the anti-harrassment policy.
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He dishes it out. He’s gotta take it too.
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I think you need to watch the video.
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Already watched it… shortly after Dr. Hottie started.
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…anything?
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Probably. That’s why he doesn’t practice in many hospitals in the area now. He likes ladies.
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I kinda like him.
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Srsly, the guy is an inspiration.
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Jealous?
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To sexually harrass co-workers?
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this
This makes me happy
http://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/A-s-C-spedes-relieved-with-family-safe-4342558.php
Okay, now, time for a new workout video and an MVP.