I don’t understand why that’s necessarily a FAIL. If there are indeed more Yankee and Red Sox fans than any others (a good possibility, I think), then that prominent placement/search suggestion makes all the sense in the world. I mean, given the A’s dwindling fanbase/attendance, it certainly wouldn’t make any sense to have the A’s there.
Perhaps after Selugworth vacates the OotP, he and Hal can go on a cruise together. Hal (or his editor) can call the resulting column “Around the World With Bud Selig.”
you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
If he regularly bet on his own team, not betting on his own team on any given night was (Rose’s own wagering income aside) the functional equivalent of betting against his own team.
The proviso against gambling has nothing to do with the individual’s income, but the potential for chicanery.
you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
Neyer does bring up a related point himself, so clearly he is aware of this issue:
A manager who’s bet on his team to win today might do something that would make a loss tomorrow more likely.
But for some reason he seems to think this isn’t a big deal. I’m not sure why. I think Rose’s current claim is that he bet the same amount on the Reds to win every day, but given that he’s a compulsive liar who’s already changed his story two or three times to match what he thought gave him the best chance of being reinstated, I also don’t see why anyone would believe that he has finally “come clean” and told the truth (especially since there seems to be some evidence that he did vary his bets depending on who the starting pitcher was). It’s odd that his decades-long self-promotion campaign for reinstatement has somehow managed to convince people who should know better.
I don’t think that point you highlight is related at all — it seems to me that Neyer is attempting to move the goalposts on gambling toward the pro-PED position (one which I occupy much of the time) of “It isn’t Bad For The Game if you’re simply trying harder to win!” while mildly condemning, say, overusing the bullpen one night at the potential expense of the next as a sort of unintended consequence of trying harder to win.
you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
Okay, and I’m about to step in it here, I know, because I’m not coming armed with “facts” or “thinking” or anything like that. Just an observation, which can be dangerous around you fuckers…
(deep breath)
I understand the argument that if you’re betting on your team to win tonight that you’re more inclined to try harder to win tonight at the expense of tomorrow, which is a very interesting and compelling point. However…given Pete Rose’s personality, can you imagine ANY scenario that doesn’t involve him trying to win at all expenses right now? The guy was and is ultra-competitive at everything he did/does. Do you honestly believe his managerial style was any different than his playing style, with the way he tackles life, with everything else he does? Ultimately, he was not a very good manager, and his win at all costs mentality may be to blame.
They may be being disingenuous/willfully ignorant. It’s tough keeping a man that was that good out of the Hall of Fame. And not all of us are nearly as good at constructing an argument or parsing the logic of things. And it feels wrong not having him in the HoF, in my experience.
And he claims he did bet on every game, doesn’t he?
Hey, next year’s going to be great! Chavvy will be back, and better than ever!!
Third baseman Eric Chavez sat on the A’s bench in the opener of the series and Geren said he looked great and should start baseball activity in January at the latest.
I remember being in the back of the theater for a “Pootie Tang” test screening, and they go, “What bothered you?” “Well, I didn’t understand what the guy was saying.” Like every hand went up. So they literally asked me if we should re-shoot his scenes and make him speak English. [Laughs]
I went to a bunch of test screenings when I was in college (foolishly thinking “free stuff that usually isn’t free; awesome!) and they ask you really stupid shit.
I don’t know if I should be offended that I didn’t make the douche list. Probably not, since it probably just mean my team is the one behind the article.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
Or, if you’d prefer to honor his approach to the slider low and away, you could choose this instead. Jeez, we could have had a nickname for him all along, Bobby “the Breeze” Crosby.
Government investigators improperly seized a list of Major League Baseball players who tested for performance-enhancing drugs in 2003, a federal appeals court in San Francisco ruled Wednesday.
Agents who raided a Long Beach company in 2004 were armed with a search warrant for drug-test results from 10 players linked to the investigation of the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative, or BALCO, in Burlingame. But they ultimately seized a list containing 104 players who tested positive for steroids during the 2003 season.
I don’t know. Maybe I’m just a humorless contrarian, but mostly that thread irritated the crap out of me, and since allowing the crap to be irritated out of me by blog threads is stupid, I became irritated with myself for being irritated, which is itself irritating and stupid.
I slogged through a lot of it, but eventually I had to limit myself to the Nick and iglew comments to preserve peace of mind.
You just have to compartmentalize the slight, and you’ll be okay. I mean, I’ve already divorced myself from my idea and internalized a whole shitload of critical dissection. Which is totally what Socrates would do in this situation. I don’t know why you need to get all emotional about it.
There are other teams in Major League Baseball? Unpossible.
Sal, can you crop the right side of that image? It runs into the right panel on my resolution.
I don’t understand why that’s necessarily a FAIL. If there are indeed more Yankee and Red Sox fans than any others (a good possibility, I think), then that prominent placement/search suggestion makes all the sense in the world. I mean, given the A’s dwindling fanbase/attendance, it certainly wouldn’t make any sense to have the A’s there.
Despite your fancy-pants education, Sal, you’re letting parochialism (or perhaps antiparochialism) trump empiricism.
I thought the exact same thing, but decided to let my bitterness overcome my objectivity. Suck it, objectivity.
Which part of this sentence don’t you understand?
new sigline.
And, what’s more, shouldn’t that be “East Coast Bias SUCCESS”?
from the Slusser beat:
Evidently Papa Crosby isn’t on her fact check speed dial.
Hal McCoy (or his editor) calls Selugworth a whore?
Perhaps after Selugworth vacates the OotP, he and Hal can go on a cruise together. Hal (or his editor) can call the resulting column “Around the World With Bud Selig.”
RIP, Ted
Great headline at radosh.
Indeed
Neyer has a
stupidwillfully ignorantIf he regularly bet on his own team, not betting on his own team on any given night was (Rose’s own wagering income aside) the functional equivalent of betting against his own team.
The proviso against gambling has nothing to do with the individual’s income, but the potential for chicanery.
Neyer does bring up a related point himself, so clearly he is aware of this issue:
But for some reason he seems to think this isn’t a big deal. I’m not sure why. I think Rose’s current claim is that he bet the same amount on the Reds to win every day, but given that he’s a compulsive liar who’s already changed his story two or three times to match what he thought gave him the best chance of being reinstated, I also don’t see why anyone would believe that he has finally “come clean” and told the truth (especially since there seems to be some evidence that he did vary his bets depending on who the starting pitcher was). It’s odd that his decades-long self-promotion campaign for reinstatement has somehow managed to convince people who should know better.
I don’t think that point you highlight is related at all — it seems to me that Neyer is attempting to move the goalposts on gambling toward the pro-PED position (one which I occupy much of the time) of “It isn’t Bad For The Game if you’re simply trying harder to win!” while mildly condemning, say, overusing the bullpen one night at the potential expense of the next as a sort of unintended consequence of trying harder to win.
Okay, and I’m about to step in it here, I know, because I’m not coming armed with “facts” or “thinking” or anything like that. Just an observation, which can be dangerous around you fuckers…
(deep breath)
I understand the argument that if you’re betting on your team to win tonight that you’re more inclined to try harder to win tonight at the expense of tomorrow, which is a very interesting and compelling point. However…given Pete Rose’s personality, can you imagine ANY scenario that doesn’t involve him trying to win at all expenses right now? The guy was and is ultra-competitive at everything he did/does. Do you honestly believe his managerial style was any different than his playing style, with the way he tackles life, with everything else he does? Ultimately, he was not a very good manager, and his win at all costs mentality may be to blame.
Well, sure, and I guess that’s what Neyer’s getting at.
But if Rose truly wanted to win at all costs, and managed damn the torpedoes style … why didn’t he bet on the Reds to win every game?
And what happens when the Reds winning (at baseball) comes into conflict with Pete Rose winning (against the bookies)?
That’s why I insist Neyer and his ilk are being disingenuous/willfully ignorant.
They may be being disingenuous/willfully ignorant. It’s tough keeping a man that was that good out of the Hall of Fame. And not all of us are nearly as good at constructing an argument or parsing the logic of things. And it feels wrong not having him in the HoF, in my experience.
And he claims he did bet on every game, doesn’t he?
Agree with everything else you said, to the letter.
This should be great
He’s great fun — by far the best excuse for the sfweakly.
They’re also starting a movie next week that’s near/dear to my heart — A Dog Year.
It had better not suck.
In high school, I played Moog for The Articles of Confederation
Take that, Michael Steele.
Not quite smackdowny enough for my taste, especially given the praise it’s getting in all the expected quarters.
Napoleon: the baseball equivalent of Betsy McCaughey
What makes you say that?
Hey, next year’s going to be great! Chavvy will be back, and better than ever!!
I hope and expect that he will continue to look great sitting on the bench next year.
He’s our projected starting third baseman, of course. No backup plan needed.
Sigh.
Yeah, but Ever hasn’t shown up in years. I’d like him to set the bar a little higher than “show up”.
Chris Carter promoted to Sacramento.
Someone please explain to me why I should give half a shit about Avatar
Sam Worthington and his dog, Spot. I hear he’s good at the movie thing.
Plus, something about special stereoscopic 3-D cameras developed just for the movie.
I went to a bunch of test screenings when I was in college (foolishly thinking “free stuff that usually isn’t free; awesome!) and they ask you really stupid shit.
Someone would have to work really hard to convince me that all quantitative opinion-sampling isn’t 100% bullshit.
That’s just your
hippielimousine-liberalextorted history-major Oberlin douchiness coming through.Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.
Your revolution is over…condolences, Mr. Monkey! The bums lost!
I think I’ll use this as a template for a f**post:
Woo-hoo! Honorable mention!
GQ, eh? Well, dig this.
I calculate my crapshoot odds at slightly under 1/200. They’re my best chance.
I don’t know if I should be offended that I didn’t make the douche list. Probably not, since it probably just mean my team is the one behind the article.
The irony of being called douchy by GQ is rich.
Well. You, sir, are no gentleman!
/glove slap!
now there’s a douche we can all agree upon.
17th! I’m a douche! I’m a douche! I’m a douche!
9th! What what! What?
Well, in fairness, you are at least eight degrees more douchey than me.
8 degrees below zero!
Yeah, I didn’t really get the joke/find it funny in the context of the rest of the list (which was moderately humorous).
Also: not a douchebag.
It’s a little sad, huh?
And yes, cheap shot out of context != funny. Brown, however, they nailed.
meh. They really pretty much got my alma mater too. They’re a bunch of pretentious twits, save colin.
http://wikipediavspredator.com/
Crosby’s gone. I know, newsflash. I wish they’d just release him though.
My prediction that when all was said and done, Scutaro would have better career numbers than Crosby, is looking good, though.
I think it may be time for Monkeyball to do his thing.
Or, if you’d prefer to honor his approach to the slider low and away, you could choose this instead. Jeez, we could have had a nickname for him all along, Bobby “the Breeze” Crosby.
Let Me Swing Your Blues Away
the call me the breeze
i keep swingin’ down and low
Or, in the Spiritualized re-imagining:
Run run run run
Run run run now Bob…
Crosby: You could be swingin’ at a slider
Out of this World! Who my age didn’t have a crush on Maureen Flanagan?
Judge: Feds improperly seized PED list.
Wow, the TWSS wall
has fallen. was broken, only to be replaced by a newer wall of TWSS.This thread + the recent return of PT + appearances by sal, (74)mk, xbox, mb, WaddellCanseco, etc have made AN *gasp* enjoyable lately.
Maybe I’ll do an end of the season photoshop travesty to send them all back into hiding.
Well… that thread is enjoyable. The rest of it is still pretty bad.
this was a one-time thing to help Tom out. Don’t get used to it.
TWSS
Kind of like how the A’s got the band back together. Flash in the pain and then it was released.
What about next year?
we’ll all be dead by then.
Only if we’re signed by the A’s in the offseason
and they ignore the advice of their consulting phrenologists.
Eric Chavez’s problem is that his locus of control is in his back.
Is it a 13-year locus, or a 17-year locus?
13-year-olds, Dude
I don’t know. Maybe I’m just a humorless contrarian, but mostly that thread irritated the crap out of me, and since allowing the crap to be irritated out of me by blog threads is stupid, I became irritated with myself for being irritated, which is itself irritating and stupid.
I slogged through a lot of it, but eventually I had to limit myself to the Nick and iglew comments to preserve peace of mind.
I’m hurt.
Not according to your dad.
Wrong. He admits I suck at baseball.
You just have to compartmentalize the slight, and you’ll be okay. I mean, I’ve already divorced myself from my idea and internalized a whole shitload of critical dissection. Which is totally what Socrates would do in this situation. I don’t know why you need to get all emotional about it.
Is there a good 2-person strategy/RPG about this topic?