Bowl.
The bowl of Yosemite Valley is absolutely best in winter:
Peach Bowl. Sugar Bowl. Cotton Bowl. Marijuana Bowl?
Superb Owl Sunday:
Yesterday in our favorite bowl!
The Puppy Bowl starts at noon, runs two hours, repeats until midnight on a seemingly infinite loop of puppies kitties and hedgehogs. To win the MVP you have to show energy and grab and run with the ball. You can’t squander your limited playing time snoozing or sniffing butts. I’m picking Juniper.
Bill Barnwell thinks SF wins by running a lot, says watch for some big plays out of their heavy formations. Football Outsiders thinks Bal’mer’s only hope is multiple big special teams plays. Lines are mostly static at SF -4, O/U 48. Much as it pains me, this feels like the kind of game we used to see all the time in the Super Bowl, where the truly better team exposes and punishes the weaker overachievers. Niners 38-10. There are too many of you FKers who like the Niners, and since besides that hideous flaw I like you anyway, I shall endeavor keep my hateful bile to myself. But no promises.
One of these years I’ll check out Yosemite in winter.
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Do it like Ansel. Take 17 sheets of film and make them last like a week.
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Ha.
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Are you a spray-and-pray type?
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Are we talking SMGs or something else?
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I was talking about taking photos.
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(I know)
And I only really go with burst mode if I’m trying to catch action.
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A lot of wedding shooters are the spray-and-pray type, but I come from a film background. I don’t shoot nearly as much as most. I’ve had my older DSLR for 4.5 years and have less than 15k actuations on it.
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That’s true. With weddings you never know when you’ll get that unexpected shot.
I got my D3 in time for the 2009 season and it’s got just under 38k when I checked it a couple weeks ago.
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My new one is just over 2k, and I got it at the beginning of December, so I’m starting to shoot a little more.
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Wow, on a good prolonged skiing weekend (something like SG+SL+DH), I’ll easily shoot 2-4K
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What kind of amazes me is that it’s not higher. But I only did a lot of burst mode stuff at baseball games. I also didn’t really go nuts with the photos. For a typical game I might only shoot 300-500 times.
I see some people selling D3s on eBay and when it’s under 5-10k actuations it makes me wonder a) how long they even had it and b) what they were using it for.
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I’ll shoot about 10 shots per athlete, top 30 plus others I might be interested in or have clients for. So, say 50 athletes per race, that’s 500 shots. If I can make it to the podium, a few more. So, on DH and SG it’s 500, on SL, GS and SC it’s double.
I bought mine used with very few actuations (I don’t remember exactly, but something like what you describe, maybe a few more), They were using it for theater photography. Needless to say, that the poor thing took more beating with me on the first day than it had in the previous two years.
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That’s not surprising about the change in usage, but also a good strategy with the athletes.
When I did my games I basically tried to get at least one or two usable shots of each player along the way along with whatever action I could. Maybe something candid if I spotted anything going on in the dugout or between pitches. Not too complicated for a strategy.
What got to be a little repetitive was getting a lot of the same players doing the same things, but that’s the nature of sports photography.
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I’ve barely done any sports photography, although I have to do some for my photojournalism class this semester. We’ll see how that goes.
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It was fun, especially for the ability to be around it like I was, but in the long run I’ll probably get more overall enjoyment shooting landscapes and nature.
Ms. Slinger is also a hater. Go Ravens! Don’t think I can take it if another SF team wins
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ms. sslinger doesn’t even know how to pell her own name!
My dad likes to refer to it as the Stupid Bowl.
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Man sounds like a Commie.
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No, that’s my grandparents. My dad’s comes more from the hippie tradition.
I want a hedgehog. They are illegal in CA. This makes me sad.
Also the Farvegasm on NFL network is incredibly obnoxious
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Is that locally sourced?
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The egg maybe. Not the hog.
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ive seen that pic and want one.
supposedly they are great pets.
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When we lived in England the local animal rescue was trying to adopt out an albino hedgehog….We nearly took it but we were already planning on coming back to the US.
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The traditional method of cooking them is to pack them in clay and bake them. Then when you break the baked clay off it brings the spines with it.
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Oh interesting! There are more of aardvarks pets I could eat
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We don’t even HAVE hedgehogs!
Also in the early battle of the bowl, cereal lost badly to the digestive system
Super!
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Thanks for asking.
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I’m about an hour behind real time on the Puppy Bowl; delayed the start for my son’s pals to arrive for his impromptu Puppy Bowl party. So far Jenny looks good!
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I’m just getting started now. Spent the morning at a little photo shoot with my friend’s bulldog Chuckles. Now I’m ready for some serious puppy action!
February 3rd and the Christmas tree is down!
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Your fire insurance agent is greatly relieved.
Wha’happen to the buttons on FK? I can’t post pictures :(
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Uh oh.
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didn’t work :(
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Oh der. I read image as link. My bad.
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Helped me out though.
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THIS and THIS. This may help any of you missing some key functions in posts.
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Thanks M
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Heh heh. That’s awesome.
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They just let any old dumbass rap at FanFest now, eh?
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That was so great, too bad they didn’t actually answer your question though, this ‘coming’ year is not ‘last’ year, ah well…
I could see an augenblick of fear in Townie, is this guy going to go off on a rant?!?!
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or “Thank God I’ve got a plane to catch in 15 minutes and by the time I come back everyone will have forgotten”
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booooooooo
I can’t recall a time when I’ve been indifferent to a superbowl. I don’t particularly like or dislike either team. I am taking great comfort in the way past several championships have turned out:
Giants over Pats – check
Pack over Steelers – Hell yeah, check
Saints over Colts – not really, but I must’ve had too much fun the night before cos I slept through that one, so whatever.
Steelers over Cards – no. But fine, good on Tomlin.
Giants over Pats – Check check and another check
Colts over Bears – Check
So I’m delightfully carefree this afternoon. But I suppose I like the elder Harbaugh a bit. And he doesn’t always look like he needs more fiber in his diet. So there’s that.
Less than 3 weeks to first radio broadcast of a Spring Training Game. Cheers.
Jack Harbaugh kind of looks like he could play The Joker with minimal makeup needed.
Another disappointing Puppy Bowl, dragged down by desultory performances and crass commercialism, the Pet Industrial Complex ramming its brainwashing down our hypnotized throats as the day’s obligatory overconsumption culminates in full body heaves.
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Aurora still beasted, though.
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That’s what Big Pet wants you to think. They’ll retire her like Jonathan E.
California Love for the Niners.
She’s really milking this one.
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Yeah, that just kept on going.
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The anthem itself was alright, but the ending cadence she tacked on their was completely unnecessary.
Sounds a lot louder than usual for a Super Bowl. Lot more purple/black than red/yellow.
Getting a 20-yard pass called back for illegal formation is not how you’d like to start.
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Illegal formation on your first play from scrimage. Ouch.
Part of that is on the Brooks for giving them a second chance on 3rd down.
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On Brooks, even.
Hey look. The Raiders made to the Super Bowl. In commercial format.
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We’ll take it.
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Closest they’ve been to it in years.
GoDaddy needs to GoAway.
Oh, sweet catch by Michael Crabtree.
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Yeah, that was really kind of disgusting. It didn’t really matter who the two people were there.
Big throw from Kaepernick to Davis, no penalty this time.
This isn’t nearly as much fun in the absence of FSU’s annual prop bets game.
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Wasn’t feeling it this year. It’s been one of my least gambly NFL seasons in awhile.
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Not much to look forward to with this season for the Raiders. BUT, one thing that can happen in the NFL is it only takes a smart draft or two to get back into the hunt.
Hopefully that’ll help Akers.
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No ugly hook at the end of it too. Just straight on through the middle.
WTF, Culliver.
Flacco has gotten away with two dying quail jump ball passes so far. He better be more careful.
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So much win.
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Brandon is so awesome!
Oh yes, Kaepernick to Davis again.
That’s out. Turnover Niners.
49ers got some problems now.
Horrible mistake for Kaepernick.
This could very well be a rout for the Ravens if the 49ers don’t stop getting in their own way.
Even w/ music playing pretty loud I can hear people screaming ‘FUCK’ really loudly outside.
Guessing the games not going well.
The 49ers are just not making tackles on the first hit at all.
Wow. A fake FG?
You want to run a fake field goal play, OK, but having the placekicker run the ball doesn’t seem very smart.
The Niners have absolutely nothing going for them right now.
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Baltimore forgoing the easy 3 points is something. If SF can get into the locker at half no further behind than 14-3, they still seem dangerous to me.
So far this has been a less-than-Super Sunday. I’m hoping all I picked up was a stomach bug.
This could be real bad for the Niners. Ravens also get it to start the 2nd half.
FAIL
Culliver, you fucking suck.
Wow. What a terrible half for the SF defense.
I’m gonna slap a GAME OVER on this one.
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Gonna depend on what they do here. If they get 7 there’s still a chance. Any less and it’s pretty much over.
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They have to get the TD and force a punt to start the 2nd half, at minimum.
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TD and no more than a field goal to start the second half. Down by any more than 14 after that first drive and it’s done.
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If the Niners score before the half, they’re still in it.
Kaepernick is trying to be too cute, changing half the plays at the line.
FG just doesn’t cut it here.
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Nope. Whatever they do during this half time, they got to get their shit together and come out fast and strong. Offensively they made some good strides but they’re defense has been garbage.
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The secondary has been worse than I think I’ve ever seen it the past two years.
Calling this game over now seems seriously premature.
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Over? No. But they’re going to need to make some major changes and get some big breaks very early otherwise it will be.
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It’s going to take the Niners secondary actually showing up to give them even half a chance.
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On the bright side, Flacco is still making some questionable throws so it could just take one of those to turn the game around.
I’m not ready to call the game result, but I’ll say this – this is one of the worst halftime shows ever.
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The only thing that can save it now is a wardrobe malfunction.
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I can’t really say whether it’s objectively “bad”. I’m definitely not in Beyonce’s target demo.
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I’m not a fan, either. I wasn’t last year, when they had Madonna, but her musicianship is far above that of Beyonce.
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I’ve never understood the racing around the stage dancing while singing thing. It destroys your vocal performance making you sound gawdawful.
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Guessing the canned inauguration forced a live vocal here?
The Boss can manage to pull it off at 83 somehow.
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Huh. The music isn’t at all my thing, but I didn’t find it so bad. Of recent performers Madonna, the Black Eyed Peas and the Who were all much worse, I thought.
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Oh, I missed the Black Eyed Peas show. As I remember, that had a major production fail when they forgot to bring up Slash’s guitar on Sweet Child of Mine.
Game.
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There’s singing coming from Don Meredith’s grave.
HA HA HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Holy moly!
Yeah, game over. Game very much over.
Wow. Uh… heh.
I love how deathly quiet it got in my neighborhood.
Wow.
Bring on baseball season and the A’s.
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A – fkin – men
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Yeah, this football nonsense is ridiculous.
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Few more days and we wont hear anything more about it!
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agreed
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Seriously.
I didnt know that they were playing at Candlestick…..
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At least the locals should be used to having the power go out in that stadium.
Balfour’s coming in?
I’m guessing the people operating the Superdome figured the game was over so they turned out the lights.
CHINESE HACKERS ATTACK SUPER BOWL
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I’m thinking some Illuminati plot must also be involved.
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BUSH LIED THE POWER DIED
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Has this ever happened before?
Niner fan H4x0rz?
Might be the best thing that could have happened on the 49er’s side.
Who dat? Who dat? Who dat say dey ain’t gonna pay dat power bill?
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I think Jacoby Jones used up all the juice.
Sorry, Bill Cowher, but no way does Harbaugh yank Kaepernick for Smith.
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Cowher must’ve thought Mike Singletary was still the coach.
Between the halftime show and this it has now been over one hour since the end of the first half with only about 1:30 of game action.
3rd and 13 is going to be tough for the Niners to jump back into once this gets going again.
Remember, Ray Lewis is in the Superdome. Better take a full headcount before resuming.
What is John Harbaugh screaming at the dude in the suit about?
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I was reading his lips and he said, “That is fucking bullshit and you know it”, im trying to figure out what that was all about…
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I’m guessing he wants the game to continue now that it appears there’s enough light.
I’m assuming Jim Nantz dumped coffee on his tie and had to put on that emergency backup.
As bad as that was, remember this: we could have been stuck with 40 minutes of Joe Buck and Troy Aikman filling dead space.
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Unlike Joe who is fully lit.
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Indeed. Joe strikes me as a guy with a pretty heavy daily baseline of some kind of depressant or another.
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He was right the first time.
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Agreed.
The 49ers needed that. Kaepernick to Crabtree for a TD.
What was that PSY pistachio commercial?
Ohhhh damn, Brooks. A TD now will make this a lot more interesting.
Somewhere in New Orleans there’s a happy electrician wearing red and gold.
Shit just got interesting.
Oh. My. Goodness. 49ers get a turnover.
If the 49ers come back and win this, I’m taking credit for it and they owe me a new laptop. Now that I’ve moved to my PC in another room they started actually playing.
If it comes down to a field goal to win it, The 49ers might want to ice their own kicker.
“Drills it”
DRINK
Akers is officially 3-for-3 but still a question mark.
Keeping it to a FG is huge right now.
Kapernick does it! TD run!
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Kaepernick, of course.
D still needs to do work here.
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This one really may hinge on Akers’ leg.
Gonna be quite a 4th quarter.
Culliver again.
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Possible LVP candidate.
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Possible? Is.
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Yay Taylor!
Hatteberg-Taylor’s going to be a really serviceable TV booth in about 3-5 years.
Just keep it to a FG. It takes Akers out of the equation too.
Here we go.
Mercedes commercial with Willem Dafoe as the Devil wasn’t bad.
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Agreed. One of the few that wasn’t horrible.
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i liked that one!
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Tom Waits is a better devil, but the FK if he’d do a car ad.
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Never say never… Maya
Crabtree, now Gore runs inside the 10!
If the 49ers score they have to go for 2 again and make it a 3-point game.
Baltimore’s defense is dead tired, very few stops since the power outage. Ultimately not the worst thing for them to see SF score fast, and have the game in Flacco’s hands.
Damn.
I really don’t know what kind of play-calling that was.
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Didn’t need to call all those pass plays. Could just have easily went back to the run to the outside instead.
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I was worried when they got that close. The playcalling didn’t play to the quarterback’s, or the team’s, strengths.
That two-handed hold on Crabtree was pretty bad, though.
Time to start thinking about how many times Ray Lewis mentions God in his on-field postgame interview. At least 6 I think.
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I try not to wish bad things on people, but if he had a conspicuously quick and messed up decline into insanity and suicide, I wouldn’t be too terribly upset.
The contact between DB and WR seemed like the kind that’s generally not called. I’m not sure the pass was catchable either.
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It’s probably catchable if he’s not held up, but it would have been tight.
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Doesn’t matter for holding.
Oh Thank Goodness!!!
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Yep. I’m relieved. Sorry, Niner fan FKers.
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I was not looking forward to seeing or hearing about it on the local TV and Radio, because you know that we would have had to see highlights of the FK’n Giants wining too, and the story of how great it is to be a fan in the Bay Area….
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Now we can welcome them to the club of fans of teams that have lost a SB.
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Eh. The loss is fine. The way it happened was not.
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Very true. It’s better to lose by getting the crap kicked out of you, than to lose on a controversial call.
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Maybe the 49ers shouldn’t have gotten down by 22 points, putting themselves in a position where the Referee could make a controversial call at the end of the game…
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Being down by 22 points is irrelevant. THEY CAME BACK. They were in the process of driving down and having a shot at winning the game, and the non call cost them first and goal at the 1.
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It’s definitely one of the couldas. Of course, that play they couldn’t get off looked like it was going in too.
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I pretty much never complain about officiating in any sport, but after seeing everything on Facebook and in here, I better not ever hear a 49er fan say anything about a Raider fan complaining about officiating again. Remember back in 2002, all the 49er fans that were in an uproar over the tuck rule and how the Raiders got screwed, oh thats right, neither do I. There were however tons of Raider fans who were complaining about the call, I was pissed as well, but the Raiders should have composed themselves and stopped the drive with defense and not allowed the game tying field goal. Both instances, yesterday and in 2002, cost the teams the game, most likely. Its part of the game, it happened, and we move on. Celebrate the fact that the 49ers had a great season that was fun for the fans and that they made it to the Super Bowl. 10 years ago the Raiders were blown out in the Super Bowl, I didn’t like it, but hey, at least my team was in the Super Bowl.
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Yeah man what a bunch of asshole 49er fans who are still upset the day after having the game taken away from them.
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I think when you look back on this you will not feel that the game was taken away from you. Crabtree was never catching that pass, so you are basically hoping for a bailout penalty. It could have been called, but it was borderline.
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It was like 8 inches from his hands. He’s 6’1 and has a wingspan of a guy that is 6’5″ and can jump.
If he’s not held up on the play he catches that ball.
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I don’t know. It landed well out of bounds, and he engaged with the defender as much as the other way around, and he didn’t seem to have been impeded all that much in real time. It was probably technically a penalty, but it was close to my (not very experienced) eyes.
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It looked like a pretty improbable catch to me. The defender is allowed to contact the receiver for 5 yards off the line of scrimmage, but the whole play happened within like 7 or 8 yards, so I’m not sure how much difference it would make. And I agree with GM that there is a good chance that he would have been out of bounds.
That doesn’t change the fact that it was holding and it would have been huge for the 49ers if they called the penalty, but I don’t think he would have caught that ball in the case where there was no holding.
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Catchability doesn’t matter for holding. It matters for PI.
The right penalty there is defensive holding. You aren’t allowed to impede receivers more than 5 yards down the field (in that case, in the end zone). The fact that Crabtree is still trying to escape from the hold doesn’t make continued holding ok.
Which makes it first and goal from the 2.5 yard line with 1:50 left.
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Yeah, in the second paragraph of my comment, I was trying to say that *according to the rules* it should be a holding call, first and goal, etc. The “what would be the outcome if this foul never happened” criteria is not how football rules are designed, but it was relevant to the discussion between MikeV and GM.
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Well, for PI it would be relevant if the ball was uncatchable.
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For PI in this circumstance, it was close enough that I don’t think catchable would have been an issue. Arguably it was on the wrong side of truly catchable, but they tend to be pretty liberal on that part of the rule.
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For the record, I wasn’t arguing that catchability was relevant to whether the penalty should have been called. More that the best case scenario from that play was a penalty, which is a less compelling “we wuz robbed” stance than some others (like the tuck rule).
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“I mean, it felt like there was a lot of contact,” Crabtree said. “I don’t even want to say this, but if the ball had been a little lower, giving me a chance to make a play, I’m sure they would’ve called it.”
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Part of the problem is that whenever you have a penalty, it’s hard to know what would have happened had the opposing team not penalized you. So for all we know he gets the separation he needs with enough time for Kaep to see where he’s going and he makes the catch. So in a sense they were robbed of the opportunity. Making up a rule on the fly is whole other bag of fked up in itself.
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Lets also be honest about the fact that the Raiders complain incessantly about the NFL being out to get them and throwing officiating, so the tuck rule was a little boy that cried wolf.
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This. For all the complaints I hear about Raider fans, I loved yesterday having my Niner firends admit to me that it was cool I could be civil with their team in the game and that they would not do the same if the roles were reversed.
It amazes me how everytime the Niners lose I see the same things about refs and it isnt fair, but then somehow the magical “Raiders are the only team that ever complains about penalties” tripe gets thrown back out.
I told a work friend on FB last night-something like 30 teams wish they could be sitting in a position of having a great comback almost happen, and it is 100x better than sitting through a blowout and seeing the other side laughing that they know the plays that are coming. It sucks to lose and I would expect it will still suck in a week, maybe 2, but hopefully prespective turns into the good conversations that have been had here about having a team poised to succeeed the next several years.
The 49ers got too far down and managed the last drive poorly. I’m not going to blame the refs.
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If Dixon wasn’t held on the safety, no one in the history of the NFL has ever been held.
Not that that one mattered.
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Either way it would’ve been a safety, holding call or not.
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Hm, the penalty for holding there is a safety. But it doesn’t stop the play immediately. So is there any reason not to just hold everyone to kill time when you’re conceding the safety anyway?
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Nope. And John Harbaugh as a former special teams coach, probably instructed his players to do it.
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Right, which is smart. But still… THROW THE FUCKING FLAG FOR ONCE IN YOUR USELESS GODDAMN LIVES.
I get why you hold, I get why it doesn’t change the outcome, but the issue is that they didn’t even throw the flags.
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They really should consider a rule change there. Instead of a “10 yard” penalty/safety, if there’s a penalty on 4th down allow a loss of down/take over the ball at the original line of scrimmage.
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That would be extremely overly harsh in most situations, unless you mean a special rule for that exact situation. I generally disapprove of hyper-targeted rules. If you’re in a position where you want to give up a safety, you’ve earned the right to hold a little.
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Not a special rule, but one that applies to all fourth downs. It wouldn’t really be too extreme or harsh since you could only apply it if the ball ends up behind the line of scrimmage. So successful punts/field goal attempts/forward progress attempts that pass the line of scrimmage or end up incomplete wouldn’t be applicable for this rule. The rule itself would mostly seem specialized since it’s application may not be particularly useful elsewhere.
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I’m confused. So you’re saying it applies only to plays that lose yardage?
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Right.
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So the only application is that you can, essentially, decline safeties? Because otherwise declining the penalty would give you the ball in worse field position.
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More or less. Yes.
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If the penalty flag was thrown, the result is a safety. If it’s declined, the result is a safety.
Perhaps a 4th down rule in general where the defensive team has the choice to decline the penalty and take over on downs, regardless of where it happened on the field.
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That’s more or less what I was thinking.
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If we’re changing rules, let’s get rid of punting altogether. Or, punting is allowed, but only by a player who also is in on a minimum number of offensive snaps.
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Meh. I’m okay with punting. I’m just not okay with the amount of punting involved. I would be okay with making it so you only get one “spot” for a kicker. So the punter would have to do double duty with field goals and kick offs as well.
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The flag on the safety wouldn’t have mattered. The end result is still a safety and they don’t put time back on the clock. The guys are TOLD to hold like crazy on that play.
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Would that add penalty yards on the Safety kickoff?
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Nope. It’s somewhat of a broken rule, in that penalties really don’t hurt the offense or help the defense at all in that specific scenario. The offense could literally tackle every single defensive player and the punter could just run around and kill the clock, and the end result would still be a safety and they would have to kick/punt it with 0:00 remaining.
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Hell, if you’re willing to go that far, then have the punter race out of the end zone with the ball to kill more time. You could even have a speedy HB or WR take the punter’s place.
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Theoretically yes, you could do that. That’s basically why the punter ran to the back corner of the end zone and stayed in bounds.
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Right. I’m just thinking you kill more clock if you sit on everyone and run it around on the field itself.
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American Football is a broken game. I hope we’ve seen the last Super Bowl in pads and helmets, although I don’t think that will come for a few more years yet (2018?)
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Note to everyone: I said in my comment it didn’t matter. But still throw the damn flag.
FCC might consider that “fucking awesome” an excited utterance.
Two huge non calls cost the game.
Haters can be happy I guess.
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A few bad non-calls, really, not just the 2 at the end. But bad play-calling and digging a hole early killed them.
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Refs kept their whistles in their pockets pretty much all game.
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Did they even call one against the Ravens all game?
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Two, can’t remember what for. But FSU is right, they didn’t call much. Still, if you fall behind by 22 against a good team, it’s hard to blame the refs when you can’t come back.
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They did call that PI against Culliver on 3rd down in a key situation.
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That wasn’t a bad call, but there were some others that were just as blatant that went uncalled (both ways). They were all over Crabtree all night, and not one flag.
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like shoving a ref or throwing a punch at an opposing player, for instance.
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Yeah, like that.
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I couldn’t believe the shoving a ref one. Especially after what happened to Justin Smith a couple years ago
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That was kind of my point. Ultimately the 49ers lost the game for themselves. They played like shit the first half and then let them return the opening kickoff in second half for a TD. You don’t dig that deep a hole and expect to come back. That being said, the officiating certainly seemed one-sided in terms of close calls. Both teams got several non-calls and a few good calls called. But when it came to who benefited the most from both, it was the Ravens by far. Enough to alter the game? Possibly, but they played like shit and dug that hole in the first place and you really can’t put yourself in a position where winning the game depends so heavily on getting the close calls called your way.
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On the same token you could say the Ravens don’t build a lead like that and then give it all back.
The refs job is to call the game correctly. No more and no less. The rules don’t change because it’s a close game or because it’s the SB instead of Week 6. The Ravens obviously benefited enough to alter the game, because the non call on the holding would have been 1st and goal on the 1 for SF instead of Baltimore ball.
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Well, what I was getting at is that you know the officiating is rarely even or predictable (even if that is unfair), so you need to put yourself in a position where you control the game’s outcome instead of relying on the refs to call it evenly/fairly. And that’s been true whether it’s pre-season, regular season or the super bowl.
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I know — and they were in a position to win the game. If Crabtree isn’t held on that play, it’s a touchdown. If the call is made, it’s 1st and goal on the one.
Sure it’s easy to say they should have played better in the first half and won by 30, but the fact is they came back and were a play away from winning even with the crappy start and being down 28-6. That after all that it came down to one bad play really fucking sucks.
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One was on the missed Akers kick.
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Oh, right. That was 5 yards, right? So there was another 15 yarder. Roughing the passer, that was it.
I just don’t understand the 49ers going for all pass plays at the end, not giving Kaepernick a chance to run at all.
You can’t expect the refs to bail you out at the end of the Super Bowl on a possibly borderline call.
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There was nothing borderline about it. Crabtree catches it easily if he gets separation without the defender having a handful of Jersey and an arm wrapped around him
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There were many more reasons the 49ers lost tonight than that last non-call.
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At least #29 reasons, it seemed.
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Among others.
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and yet they were in position to win the game at the end, and yet another non-call affected the outcome.
The amount of shitty calls were laughable. One of the Ravens players literally shoved the ref, and another punched a Niner — both automatic ejections — neither called.
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YOU wanna be the ref that makes Ray Lewis cry, and then shoot someone?
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He’s got a ring for each person he’s killed now
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Ha! Good point, I didn’t think of it that way.
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I think I’m with you in this argument set.
The officiating was lousy, and Boger didn’t deserve the assignment. The league changed the rules in regards to assigning officials to postseason games to get him in there, and that’s wrong, I don’t care if he’s Black or Gay (my ‘dar went up every time he was on the mic)
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That ref was so gay he probably has a different set of drapes for each night of the week, OMG.
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Bomel > Boger
Can’t bear the Ray Lewis fellatio to come. Hopefully, two guys won’t end up dead this time.
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I’m avoiding the post-game show because of that, and any mention of Art Modell.
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I shut it off the moment it ended. It disgusts me that Ray Lewis is going out a winner.
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Lewis grabbing the microphone from Nantz was pretty funny. Nantz wisely didn’t try to arm-wrestle but cut him off and tossed to commercial pretty quickly. Only one actual mention of God’s name during that but the theme was pervasive.
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There’s a special layer of hell for people like Art Modell.
One of the rules of professional football is simple:
Baseball has all kinds of winning teams. The World Series champ. The pennant winner (unless you’re the Atlanta Braves in the 1990s). Even division champs and wild card teams.
Football is different. There’s the Super Bowl champ and all the other teams. And one of the worst things you can be is the Super Bowl loser. They’re the world’s biggest loser, salvaged only by the fact that the 49ers came back from the dead.
The only real consolation is that I’m spared the mess of another SF parade, even one I would enjoy.
So why the hell did that 49ers fan move from his lucky spot?
Fuck.
I think we win that game more often than we lose, but we sure didn’t come to play today.
Not to yield up TMI, but right after the Ravens scored their second TD, I immediately ran to the bathroom and got sick. FKing stomach flu.
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I was wondering if you fell for the advertising in one of the commercials. I laughed, but ugh that burger looks disgusting.
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Right now, even the sight of a nice, thick, juicy steak with corn on the cob, potato salad, and beer would send me into instant despair.
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Um, hello, Kay here… puking doesn’t even get NEAR the threshold of TMI around these parts.
And now for a discussion about figging… (not)
It sucks to lose, but it’s hard for me to be too angry. They’ve built a hell of a team, they have like 14 draft picks (not counting what they may get for Alex Smith), and not many holes to plug. Barring catastrophic injuries, they’ll be contenders for years to come.
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In a much better position than the Ravens going forward.
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Most of the 49ers are pretty young, other than maybe Gore and Justin Smith. I think they might lose Goldson to free agency (I think Goldson, he’s the one they franchised right?). I’d like to see them find another WR, a CB, a S, and more depth for the front 7. That’ll be hard to do in the draft, obviously, especially since I think 8 of their picks are 4th round or later. Hopefully, they can trade up. I wonder if they can package Alex and their 1st for a higher 1st.
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I’d focus mostly on defense early on. Focus on depth in the mid/late rounds for all those key spots for WR/Line. No idea who’s available in FA, but I’d look for that extra WR there instead if I could. Doesn’t need to be a primary guy either. Offensively, they just need Kaep to get the experience with the guys. He got a lot better with Davis and he already hit a number of the other guys well. RB is pretty set with the guys they have there.
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I doubt they will go 4-12 next year, unlike another Bay Area team the last time they made a SB.
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Sagh.
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I’m sorry your team is struggling right now. I’d honestly love to see them rebound by 2014. It would be a lot of fun if both teams are good the next time they play each other.
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I’m worried about the defense, and particularly the D line. Justin is no spring chicken, and we need better depth. The D has been trying to lose games all playoffs
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He’s having surgery to fix his triceps. He’s got another couple years left in him, but they need to find his replacement in the draft this year to groom for a few seasons.
1st round pick has to be a S though. I’m done with Goldson.
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Would you sign Ed Reed?
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If he were available and willing, I would. He’s got a bit left in his tank. I’d still draft the secondary early in the draft though.
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They need DL help, Sopoaga is a FA, Smith is getting old, Ray McDonald is fine but they have no depth, RJF is a FA Demarcus Dobbs is out for the year.
You need a receiver since Moss is probably gone and Jenkins is a bust Ginn is a FA. You have no idea how manningham is going to play after injury.
Goldson was a pro bowl safety, I don’t see how you draft highly for him when you can franchise him for not very much money.
Also can we draft a mother fucking kicker.
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I said early, but that doesn’t necessarily mean first. They do need to draft for depth. And they need to look at FA WRs.
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Agree with this. Justin Smith is a great player, but I didn’t realize that he was two great players (run stuffing DT plus about 75% of a sack monster DE) until the injury.
No idea who the actual players are, and I strongly believe in BPA in early rounds, but we are also clearly going to be a mover in draft-day trading so BPA becomes less outcome determinative.
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No. I think he’s old and broken. That style of player is exactly what they need though.
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I also try to package all of my extra late round picks into mid rounders.
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nah, they’ll deal them for more future picks. There’s no way they actually make 14 draft picks this year.
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You have two strategies. Trade up or trade out till the next year. I think they need reinforcements at three positions now. I don’t want to need to start a rookie reciever in two years.
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They can draft a WR in the mid rounds this year and be fine. Safety is the most immediate need because I don’t think they franchise Goldson again and pay him 7.5M. An interesting trade idea I saw was Alex Smith for Revis and a draft pick. Revis is on a 1 year 6M deal and it would immediately make the secondary awesome. Goldson can walk and Culliver can push to FS, Whitner then remains as the big hitting SS.
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I think it’s much more likely we move Alex for draft picks, just because that’s how deals seem to work in FB.
I’m thinking/hoping a 2d rounder.
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Getting Revis would instantly go a long way to fixing one of the Niners’ biggest problems. That said, I just can’t see it happening.
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I think safety is a bigger problem than CB is. Rogers, Brown, and Culliver is a good trio. They just need a ball hawk type safety instead of 2 guys who try to blow you up with big hits. Whitner and Goldson are both hitters first and safeties second.
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You could probably move rodgers to FS
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Rodgers is a pro bowl cornerback though. Culliver is not all that great and played safety in college.
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Id love to see them spend money on Bowe or Wallace to pair with Crabtree.
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I’d be surprised if they signed a big name guy like that.
Lions just waived Titus Young. Wonder if they might take a flier on him and hope that Harbaugh can contain the whiner/diva.
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They probably dont have the cap room to do so.
I want nothing to do with titus young
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I think we have enough holes that we need the talent now, instead of better talent later. Willis isn’t getting any younger either, and if Gore has another 1000 yard season in his career I’ll be pretty shocked (and it’ll be because the line is A++ and/or Kaepernick is scaring the D shitless).
That said, we have a good enough roster that I’d rather have a few high round picks than lots of late round guys. Pretty much any reasonable-value trade up seems like the right call to me.
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I don’t think you need Gore to give you another 1000 yard season. You’ll have Hunter back and James has shown an ability to get the job done. Add in Kaepernick and you have most of the running covered.
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Hunter might be able to be a featured back, but emphasis is on “might”. LMJ is a great second back, but he’s got work to do before he’s more.
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There is already a replacement plan for Gore. Hunter and LMJ, and I think they sign LaGarrette Blount to do what Brandon Jacobs was supposed to do this year. Hunter/LMJ/Blount is a great trio.
Also I thought Gore was done 2 years ago and he proved me wrong big time. He’s got a couple more seasons left in him.
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I get the sense you’re going to say everyone has a couple more seasons. I’m just saying we have SB talent now, and it won’t keep well.
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No, but there are also Hunter and LMJ who are able to take some of the load off of Gore.
Gore and Smith are the 2 guys who need to be replaced within the next few seasons. Gore’s replacements are already here. Smith’s aren’t, but there is some time for a guy to be drafted this year and learn the ropes. I actually figure Smith will sign an extension that helps the salary cap and allows him to walk away on his terms.
oh, and Willis is only 28, and has Bowman next to him. ILB is locked down for awhile.
The only good thing about this loss is that most Niner fans are also Giants fans, and those Giants fans won’t be as insufferable for the next 9 months.
Say what you will about the (lack of) officiating–the Niners made a lot of mistakes tonight. Certainly a lot more than the Ravens. I don’t know how many times Flacco seemed to throw the ball away on 3rd and long…for a 30 yard gain. Their defense was atrocious for most of the game. The fumble and interception were bad, but fundamentals and discipline would’ve gone a long way tonight.
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For a team that prides itself on tackling, the 49ers did a poor job of that for most of the game. I can’t believe how many times Flacco escaped sure sacks. Culliver looked like he’d never played football before. On the other side of the ball, the Ravens defense looked very beatable from the get-go, but turnovers and bad play calls killed them.
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Whitner and Goldson were exposed badly. It turns out safeties need to actually tackle and not just try to hit guys.
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That frustrated me to no end. Everyone one else on the team knows how to wrap guys up, but those two just try to lay people out. Seems like Goldson takes a dumb personal foul penalty about once every other game, too.
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He’ll be gone next year. They won’t franchise him again and he won’t get a long term deal. Safety in the 1st round.
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But but but… Taylor Mays! Oh, wait…
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Gotta wonder if all the crap Culliver put on himself and the flack he got for them was on his mind too much and caused him to lose focus. His own fault either way for being an idiot/sucking.
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Could be. I think last year the secondary got lucky with a lot of INT’s and built a reputation, and this year they got exposed. Without a great pass rush, it turned out that the secondary just isn’t that great. And the Ravens figured out that they could dump it off to their RB’s and TE underneath and get solid yardage any time they wanted. That set them up for a lot of 3rd and short situations and the defense always had to respect the run instead of just playing the pass.
Also, the play call on the 2 point conversion was crappy. They should’ve been able to convert that. If they had, they could’ve kicked a FG to tie it at the end.
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They should have gone for 2 at least a few other times during the comeback, as well.
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I was fine with their strategy since the score was what it was. They should’ve tied it after that last td.
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I don’t think it was the play call so much as the Ravens were offsides.
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I thought this was much more of a blatantly missed call than the 4th-down no-call.
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Yeah there were a lot of Raven’s friendly spots throughout the game.
Its not why we lost, but it definitely didn’t help.
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I like this gif, and how it’s somehow not an automatic ejection for pushing the ref.
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You can’t eject a guy who’s on the Team of Destiny, Mike. I mean, c’mon.
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What pisses me off is that it has been ALL FUCKING SEASON with this shit. Was there a league memo that Niners opponents never commit penalties?
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I need to see a replay, but it looked to me like all the receivers got jammed right off the line. When you have Kaep and Gore, why not at least pretend you want to run it? There’s no way this offense should ever struggle to move 2 yards.
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Their outside linebacker was already behind the defensive line as the ball was being snapped so it really wouldn’t have mattered what the play call was, he needed to get rid of the ball immediately.
What’s worse about the Psy Pistachio ad: that they think it’s funny, or that they created the worst filk in history?
Substituting the syllables with no regard for the original sound or structure is not good filking procedure.
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The whole this is sad
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If I never hear that song again, it will be too soon.
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I hope you didn’t see the shitty parodies some A’s and Giants fans did.
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I saw at least one Oakland one (probably linked from here).
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It was by someone named Jewel and involved BART. It was awful.
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The worst part (for me) is that his actual song was actually pretty groundbreaking in its genre for being subversive, and now it’s all just the gimmicky dance which has probably jumped the shark.
Hope he saved some of his money.
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Probably?
Should the Niners use the no-huddle more with Kaepernick?
Notice how often he’s changing things at the line and they barely get the snap off before the play clock hits zero.
The read-option involves a lot of changes at the line based on the formation the defense is playing, and the more time there is to figure out what you want to do the better, I’d think.
Obviously if the Niners use the no-huddle they’d have to mix it up so they don’t telegraph what’s coming each time, but I’d think it could be used very effectively with Kaepernick.
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My fear with the no-huddle is that when you play a good team it can really hurt you, but against a bad team it makes you look like worldbeaters. I very much doubt that it would give the Ravens much trouble.
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In ’11, Alex Smith tended to run the clock down near zero all the time. In ’12, he got better at reading the defense quicker and calling changes. Kaep will probably get quicker too.
That being said, I think mixing it in once in a while could really be an advantage.
Holy shit
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WTF? I don’t understand why we want a utility infielder and (good) pitcher. Both of whom are 29.
I am just glad it’s over and now the real fun can begin, this thing called baseball you might have heard of.
Niners fans on here, you know I love ya but your team played almost as poorly as they could have played for the first half plus the beginning of the second and only the freak power outage provided the 49ers with the opportunity to get back into it. I can’t say I’m unhappy that this Neanderthal little punk Culliver spent the whole game being made to look even more foolish than nature intended by the Ravens’ receivers though… not that him and Brooks would know anything about being subject to dehumanization and discrimination having spent their lives as, I dunno, BLACK GUYS or anything. I hope they catch both of them in a bathroom stall at SFO with a male escort or ten.
As for the non-holding at the end, OMG stop whining you sound like the Raiders fans that you always mock for complaining about always being called for penalties. The truth is, that was the point in the game where I thought the inexperience of Kaepernick was most evident… really the whole game he was changing the play at the line of scrimmage and the announcers were right when they said he needs to learn not to run the same direction every time after faking a handoff to Gore. It was only his 10th pro start so you really can’t get too down on him for that… I kind of thought once Gore got them to 1st and goal at the end there the play calling kind of sucked in general and it never should have got to 4th down and the Crabtree play to begin with — Kaepernick is so athletic they should have had some weird contigency play drawn up for exactly that situation and let him run it in. Baltimore blitzing like animals in those last plays seemed to rattle him a little bit at any rate, maybe more youthful lack of experience but he will only get better and more devastating as a QB (Jesus he is as fast as a WR when he gets in the open field, wow) in years to come so the 49er faithful ought not despair too badly.
Now I just heard we traded Chris carter and Max Stassi to the Astros for Jed Lowrie, so baseball can officially begin, WHOA!!! Billy Beane is a madman, they oughta make a movie about that guy.
JFC. We need to figure out a way to pass National Popular Vote laws (http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/) in enough states before this shit becomes a trend.
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Is that an Amendment initiative?
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Nope. States can allocate their EVs however they want, so the law is passed such that when 272 EVs worth of states pass it, those states allocate their EVs to the national popular vote winner.
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So what do they mean by the bill that’s passed by X states?
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I think the Republicans should quit beating around the bush and just introduce their inevitable “White
PeopleMen’s Votes Count Twice Because” initiative…. just get it over with already.up
Fixed.
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Funny thing is they lost the popular in 5 of the 6 most recent presidential elections.
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That’s why they need the fix.
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Ah, misread the article.
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That’s why they’re pressing to get the popular vote ONLY in swing states and states where it would add to their counts. They’re not trying to get them in places where they might lose a vote.
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Misread or skimmed I should say.
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Yeah, I didn’t feel it was very clear on what they were actually doing. I was hoping they were pushing an amendment, but if it’s a bill only passed for a few individual states that worries me.
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They’re not trying to get the popular vote. They’re trying to split the state into districts (which they have gerrymandered). In PA, for example, Obama won by 10 or so points, but would have gotten 1/3 of the EVs because democrats are packed into a few districts.
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Basically it’s trying to take most of the state because the rural areas, of which there are more, are Republican while bigger cities are Democratic.
It’s bullshit, especially if the popular vote for the state is Democratic.
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This is all right except “because the rural areas, of which there are more, are Republican while bigger cities are Democratic”
That isn’t the reason the plan would take most of the state. The reason is that districts are intentionally drawn so that democratic districts are 90%+ democratic voters and GOP districts are 55% GOP, so you waste the maximum number of democratic votes in safe districts.
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Doesn’t that only account for the congressional seats, not how the ECs would be divided?
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One EV per district, with various proposals adding the other two to the statewide popular vote winner or the person who won more districts. As I understand it.
EVs for each state are congressional districts + 2.
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Gotcha. Still not liking that. A popular vote is much more fair/accurate.
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Of course that’s true.
GOP is not intending to be fair/accurate. It is intending to help elect GOP presidents.
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Yeah, that’s sadly true too. But enough loses with close popular votes like we’ve had and they may need to change their tune.
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The proposal that was briefly floated for Virginia (but discarded, thankfully) was even worse. That suggestion was 1 EV for the winner of each congressional district with the last 2 EV going to the candidate who *won the most districts*, not the winner of the state popular vote.
I think that the PA plan is like nevermoor says.
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Those are the two possibilities I mentioned. I think PA has talked about both, but I might be conflating.
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Sorry. I skimmed your comment too fast and missed it.
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Right, that’s what I meant in terms of what the GOP was doing.
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I’m not sure I understand the question.
States with a combined number of EVs large enough to decide the election can all choose to allocate those EVs to the national popular vote winner. That means that the national popular vote effectively decides the election. No constitutional amendment required.
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I’d rather an amendment in place to avoid GOP states from twisting it so only their states don’t do that. I want it all or none.
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I’d rather just toss the whole electoral college, remove the impact of the states on that part of it, and leave it to a national popular vote.
But I do think that under the current format, the EVs should all go to the candidate who gets more votes in that state.
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Basic, yeah.
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That’s what this law does. Without needing an amendment.
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If it’s still using EC to decide things, it’s not really doing it. Nor does this thing preclude states from changing their mind later on and going back to winner-take-all.
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Sure. But amending the constitution is not. going. to. happen. level difficult.
Maybe you can do it after a system like this is proven to work. Maybe.
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I don’t know. I think if you could get support for the states for a system like this, you could get support for popular vote amendment. It’s not terribly different, it would just take longer and more effort. People on both sides are tired of the way the EC works.
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This needs legislative support in states with 50%+1 of the EVs, and is already half way there. That needs 2/3 of both houses of Congress could propose an Amendment, which can become valid “for all intents and purposes” as the Constitution, when three-fourths of the states approve.
It isn’t “longer and more effort.” It’s just never going to happen.
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I’m confused as to how this keeps states that aren’t apart of the 50%+1 of the EVs to get the other 50%-1 of the EVs to go along with it?
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It doesn’t. But it doesn’t matter. States have to report the number of votes cast, so the NPV winner is knowable. The 50%-1 states can allocate their EVs however they damn well please, it just doesn’t make any difference to the actual election.
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I still don’t see how it’s possible that it wouldn’t make a difference.
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There need to be 270 EVs in the compact. That guarantees the winner of the national popular vote gets >= 270 EVs, winning the election.
The other 268 EVs become meaningless.
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Constitutional amendment needs to be ratified by 3/4 of states. The National Popular Vote compact only needs enough states that it adds up to 270 EV. They already have 132 EV with only 8 states + DC, because CA is on board with its 55 votes. You could get the remaining 138 EV with just six more states, if they were TX, NY, FL, PA, OH, and pretty much any other (unlikely, I know). But the point is that it’s still easier than an amendment.
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There are one or two states (IIRC Kansas is one, maybe New Hampshire the other?) who can have a split EV.
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Any state can do whatever it wants with its EVs. Nebraska and Maine do that, but because they aren’t swingy it doesn’t matter. Obama got an EV in Nebraska, but didn’t need it, before then they hadn’t split in a long time.
PA would split every election, and split in extreme GOP favor at least until 2020 redistricting.
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Okay, I was close on the locations of the states.
But yeah.
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Nebraska and Maine.
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If you had states representing >50% of the electoral college in the National Popular Vote compact, then it doesn’t matter what any of the other states do. So the only “twisting it” that you have to worry about is if some state is part of the compact but then pulls out at the last minute and allocates its electoral votes differently in order to change the election result.
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That’s kind of the problem. The GOP wants the liberal and swing states to split them by vote while maintaining their winner takes all approach in conservative states. Without an amendment to make it a popular vote, that kind of twisting can happen (by either side in the future). The fact that greater than 50% join the pact really doesn’t change that. It just further skews the EC.
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This, exactly.
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I don’t understand the last sentence at all
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Right now you could say (to some degree) that winner-take-all to varying degrees is split down the middle (or for the sake of argument let’s just say it’s true). If all the Liberal & Swing States move to a popular vote EC system, that means in Liberal states, Democrats lose votes as GOP subsets go to the GOP. In swing states, they will be proportionately split (evenly). So far, it’s skewing GOP. If GOP states DON’T join and/or later change their mind, the GOP maintains all their votes including those that would otherwise go to the Democrats, skewing the EC towards the GOP instead of showing a “true” representation.
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I think you’re misunderstanding the system. If enough states pass this law, it doesn’t matter what other states do. Because the states passing this law will decide the election.
The law has no effect until that number of states pass it.
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I can’t see how that’s even true. If 270 votes go by this method, that means they could be split 135 each meaning the other 268 votes decide the election.
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I’m not explaining well. The 270 votes ALL go to the winner of the national popular vote. The 268 never decide anything.
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Ooooooh. So it’s not by district/state. Okay *THAT* makes sense. Okay, yeah, now that I see what you mean, I can get behind that.
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Sorry, bad job explaining the idea on my part.
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Yeah, now that we’ve cleared that one up, can someone now explain the Lowrie trade for me? That one still doesn’t make sense.
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GOP plot to prevent a team from a liberal area from succeeding. Beane’s advisory panel is gerrymandered to include disproportionate tea party representation.
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That explains SOOOO much.
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I don’t think you understand the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. The idea is that if you have states with 270 EV, then they can pick the president no matter what. So they just agree that whoever wins the *national popular vote* wins all 270+ EV and is guaranteed to win the electoral college. Those states aren’t splitting their votes between candidates — they are all pooling their votes together.
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This law would do that too.
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Not sure how that works if each state is deciding on this on their own?
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The law doesn’t take effect until it is passed by enough states to determine elections. Maryland has had the law on the books since 2007, but still currently allocates EVs to the statewide popular vote winner.
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Except it would only determines an election IF all those votes swing the same way. Otherwise it’s still up to the winner-take-all states.
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No, the states in the compact would be pledging their electoral votes to whoever wins the NPV, regardless of which way their own states went.
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Yeah, NM finally cleared that part up. Rather crude, but works.
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Personally, I’m not a fan precisely because it is so crude. In a close election it seems like this could turn ugly in unpredictable ways.
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Sure, a recount on a NPV would be utter chaos.
Which is why it is crazy we don’t use better voting mechanisms.
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What’s the thinking on who would have standing to enforce the compact, should a state try to back out, and whether litigation could get resolved in time for the constitutional deadline for the electors to meet? There are some gnarly constitutional questions lurking here.
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Or weirdly, one state backs out late causing the winner-take-all to account for everything throwing off all expectations and swinging the vote for Gore to Bush.
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The compact goes out of effect if it does not control the election. So I don’t see the constitutional question. It would just revert to a normal election.
There are rules about changing election laws too near an election, at least voter registration laws, but I have no idea if they come into play on something like this.
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To be clear, I mean if a state reneges on the compact during the period between the popular vote and the casting of electoral votes.
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Ah. Got it.
No idea if that would be possible
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I could see, say, GOPites in a given state attempting to challenge it in court (on what grounds, who knows, but I’m sure they could find some), and really quack things up.
My late-night guilty pleasure TV show is Baggage. Do not judge me.
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Primer is on netflix streaming now. I watched it 3 times last night and still can’t figure out what the FK happened.
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This?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0390384/
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That.
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I liked that one, I’ll have to re-watch it some time.
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I can’t cast a stone.
RIP Pepper Paire Davis