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There are many theories about how to live a healthy life.

Some still believe there is a fountain of youth in Florida, though even some who are reported to have seen it deny having been there.

Others say you should eat more Kaleâ„¢.

A recent study says that gay men are less stressed, but someone forgot to tell Kwame Harris.

Some think guns are dangerous, others think they offer much needed protection, but everyone can agree that the rifle with a custom signature series “Willie Bloomquist” floor plate probably won’t do much damage.

On the other hand, being around Phillies fans forced to watch a lineup including Michael Young, Delmon Young, and Yuni might be hazardous to your health.

482 thoughts on “Healthy Life Grill

  1. elcroata Jan 29,2013 11:04 am

    Any NRAF from Chicago here? Can anyone give me a rough estimate what renting a place in Chicago would cost or a good link? Is that Craig list everyone talks about good for that?

    Because survival is insufficient
    • dmoas Jan 29,2013 11:06 am || Up

      I’d try craigslist before I try craiglist. IIRC, the latter is porn.

    • PDXAthleticsfan Jan 29,2013 11:10 am || Up

      To state the obvious, Chicago is a big place, even bigger if you are considering the greater Chicagoland area. Depends on where you want to rent, I imagine (colin can weigh in, as the most recent ex-Chicago NRAF).

      A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
      • elcroata Jan 29,2013 11:15 am || Up

        I don’t know, somewhere not too far from West Addison Street, I guess

        Because survival is insufficient
        • PDXAthleticsfan Jan 29,2013 11:26 am || Up

          Any information that I have about rent is more than 20 years old at this point, so Craigslist and/or colin are probably your best sources of information. As far as location, anywhere within a few blocks of an el station (with a few neighborhoods I would avoid) would make an easy commute, so there wouldn’t be a need to locate near to the prominent landmark on Addison Street.

          A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
        • colin Jan 29,2013 11:37 am || Up

          You mean Wrigleyville? Are you going to apply for that Cubs job? I guess that you could get a one bedroom in the neighborhood for $1200/month (warning: I never lived in that neighborhood, so I might be totally wrong). What I do know is that if you live there, you have to put up with tons of drunk twenty-somethings roaming the streets every night. Wrigley is very accessible on public transportation, so there are lots of other neighborhoods that you could look at (cheaper or pricier, but all with fewer drunk frat-boys).

          • dmoas Jan 29,2013 11:41 am || Up

            How do you know he’s not going there because he’s interested in meeting a nice, young drunk frat-boy?

          • elcroata Jan 29,2013 11:57 am || Up

            I have no idea. Frankly, I am not really planning on moving from Europe, but it did get me interested. From the information exchange so far, I seem to fit what they are looking for, so now I would have to state my financial requirements. And I have very hard time doing that, not only because of different taxing and costs of living, but also because I would have to measure how much the loss of 25 vacation days a year and proximity to both of our families is worth to me.

            Because survival is insufficient
            • elcroata Jan 29,2013 9:14 pm || Up

              Having slept on it, I’ll be staying here. I really don’t think I can get a monetary refund valuable enough for all the things I’d be missing, interesting job be damned

              Because survival is insufficient
              • DFA Jan 29,2013 10:04 pm || Up

                this

                If you know of a cute girl that will smuggle me into the EU please let me know.

                In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
              • Englishmajor Jan 29,2013 10:12 pm || Up

                Sounds prudent. Hold out for Oakland!

          • colin Jan 29,2013 12:00 pm || Up

            I spent about 30 seconds on craigslist and I think that my $1200/month for a one bedroom apartment in Wrigleyville is pretty much spot on.

          • Jennifer Jan 29,2013 3:14 pm || Up

            Remember that crazy lady from the internet I spent the weekend with in Chicago? Her apartment was a five minute drive from there and it was ~$1100 a month. It was a cute little apartment, too. Nothing fancy. There were probably better ones in the area, though.

          • Glorious Mundy Jan 30,2013 10:02 am || Up

            The magic of elcroata vs. the eternal shittiness of the Cubs.

            That would truly be the irresistible force meeting the immovable object.

    • nevermoor Jan 29,2013 12:46 pm || Up

      As a law student, I stayed here: http://www.websterhouseapartments.com/w_apttype.html

      Sweet building, great location, and for a RAF the rent was shocking low. You can, of course, pay less for places without elevators / doormen / views / etc.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • elcroata Jan 29,2013 12:53 pm || Up

        Thanks
        I haven’t looked at apartments in a long, long time. Now that I do, I love mine even more

        Because survival is insufficient
    • PDXAthleticsfan Jan 29,2013 1:14 pm || Up
      A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
      • ptbnl Jan 29,2013 1:27 pm || Up

        Because the airplane lavatory at the end of a 10-hour flight is so delightfully sanitary.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
        • PDXAthleticsfan Jan 29,2013 1:31 pm || Up

          Doodooed if you do, doodooed if you don’t.

          A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
    • Englishmajor Jan 29,2013 2:09 pm || Up

      In general, when looking on craigslist, go back to the third or fourth page of results for a more accurate idea. The site is infested by spammers who list nonexistent apartments at low prices, then when people inquire, the spammer sends a friendly email saying “we’d love to show it to you, but just so we can be sure you’re serious, please fill out this free credit report”. Apparently some people are gullible enough to fall for this, because there are a lot of fake ads in the first page or two. They get flagged off fairly fast, so ads that have stayed up until the third page are usually legit.

  2. dmoas Jan 29,2013 11:10 am

    “Don’t you dare put soy sauce on that rice. Oh yeah, okay fine. Give me back my underwear damn it!”

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 29,2013 11:32 am || Up

      Soy sauce is not conducive to a healthy life, apparently.

      Also, compound facial fractures? That sounds horrible.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • dmoas Jan 29,2013 11:38 am || Up

        That’s what happens when you head butt someone’s fist.

    • batgirl Jan 29,2013 12:48 pm || Up

      That story is so weird. Did we know previously that he is gay? Sort of sad that if he wasn’t out previously his coming out isn’t a “hey, this is who I am and I’m proud to sing it loud” but a horrible story about soy sauce, underpants and domestic violence.

      • dmoas Jan 29,2013 1:58 pm || Up

        I don’t think anyone had any idea.

      • ozzman99 Jan 29,2013 2:03 pm || Up

        A horrible story about soy sauce, underpants and domestic violence.

        Tagline?

        • dmoas Jan 29,2013 2:10 pm || Up

          I’m kind of feeling it.

          • Kay Jan 30,2013 12:27 am || Up

            thirded

            \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
            • Kay Jan 30,2013 12:27 am || Up

              nevermind… I take it back. I don’t want a tagline joking about domestic violence, even if it is kinda funny

              \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
  3. dmoas Jan 29,2013 11:40 am

    You know when you doodle at work and a few days later you look down and realize said doodle is just a touch too phallic? So then you try to cover it up with another doodle with a different pen only to realize the the doodlely fix just made it more pornographic?

    • beebo Jan 29,2013 11:58 am || Up

      Is your name Jackie Treehorn, by any chance?

    • Dial C for Concupiscence Jan 29,2013 12:15 pm || Up

      I think they had this problem in Superbad.

  4. Dial C for Concupiscence Jan 29,2013 12:07 pm

    1. I knew I should have been more suspicious when Ponce De Leon started setting batting records in the Florida State League.

  5. colin Jan 29,2013 2:56 pm

    It’s titled Still Too Early and Mostly Useless but Replacement-Level Yankees Weblog has new 2013 predictions up. For people who aren’t familiar, they use a projection system called CAIRO that projects each player based on their last four years (including minor league numbers) with various adjustments for home park and league, aging, etc. Then they make some guesses about playing time (it’s easy to criticize this, but it’s hard and I think they do a pretty good job) and simulate 100000 seasons. Relevant for the A’s is that this version includes Nakajima for the first time.

    AL West predicted standings:

    LAAAAA 93-69, win division in 43.2% of sims, make the playoffs in 65.1% of sims
    TEX 90-72, win division in 31.1% of sims, make the playoffs in 54.7% of sims
    OAK 86-76, win division in 22.4% of sims, make the playoffs in 44.1% of sims
    SEA 67-95, win division in 2.5% of sims, make the playoffs in 6.3% of sims
    LOLAstros 61-101, win division in 0.8% of sims, make the playoffs in 2.5% of sims

    Nakajima: 606(!) PA, 254/313/367, 11(!) HR

    • colin Jan 29,2013 3:01 pm || Up

      Oh wait, I was misreading that spreadsheet. That line for Nakajima is before playing time projections are included. They actually project him to get 434 PA, with the same triple slash.

    • colin Jan 29,2013 3:10 pm || Up

      Their solution to the Oakland OF/1B/DH logjam
      Cespedes: 566 PA
      Crisp: 563 PA
      Reddick: 558 PA
      Young: 404 PA
      Smith: 356 PA
      Carter: 352 PA
      Moss: 345 PA
      Barton: zilch
      Taylor: zilch

    • andeux Jan 29,2013 3:13 pm || Up

      While this agrees with all the other projections that, despite winning the division, on paper the A’s are still only the third-best team in the division, 86 wins and 44% playoff chance is actually pretty encouraging. (And better than the Yankees or Sawx.) Last year they had us at 76 and 3%.

      TINSTAAFK
      • colin Jan 29,2013 3:17 pm || Up

        I thought it was pretty encouraging too. Things really broke in our favor last year, but the A’s are still a pretty good team.

  6. FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 29,2013 7:22 pm

    Hah hah hah Ray Lewis…deer antler spray?

    Also:

    Ross told SI he prescribed a program to help Lewis’ recovery that included multiple components, including holographic stickers for the elbow, sleeping in front of a beam-ray light, drinking negatively charged water and taking a regiment of deer-antler pills and spraying deer-antler extract under the tongue every two hours…

    When asked why Lewis is denying using his products, Ross told ESPN Radio: “I guess [Lewis] is scared of Roger Goodell.”

    Or he’s scared of being known as the colossal sucker who paid thousands for hologram/beam-ray/charged water/antler treatments.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • dmoas Jan 29,2013 7:36 pm || Up

      My favorite line is this double negative about murdering two people from the Yahoo article: “I truly believe, if you take a 13-year break on anything, as hard as it is for them, as hard as it is about the things for you want me to speak about or you want to report about, I just don’t believe, honestly, that this is not the appropriate time for that,” Lewis said.

    • ozzman99 Jan 29,2013 7:45 pm || Up

      I don’t know, holographic bandages with Disney characters could probably make a lot of money.

  7. ozzman99 Jan 29,2013 7:37 pm

    Randy Moss: Greatest Receiver of All Time, except when he wasn’t.

  8. ozzman99 Jan 29,2013 7:50 pm

    He’s got an enormous head … As soon as he grows into that head, he’s going to be something.

    Jim Harbaugh says some weird stuff.

  9. dmoas Jan 29,2013 10:43 pm

    Huh. So Gomer was gay. Whodathunkit.

    • doctorK Jan 30,2013 8:34 am || Up

      I’ve known this for over 30 years. My mom used to sell real estate when we lived in Hawaii. Once, she had a listing in the Kahala area near Diamond Head, and Jim Nabors’ house was across the street. She told me that during open house hours, she saw Gomer with different men entering and leaving his house. My reaction was simple – SHAZAM!

      • FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 30,2013 8:40 am || Up

        Surprise, surprise, surprise!

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • dmoas Jan 30,2013 8:57 am || Up

        I mean, it’s not particularly shocking. More… interesting.

  10. ptbnl Jan 30,2013 1:37 am

    Spellcheckers FTW … probably better not to include a description of redshit in my talk.

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • colin Jan 30,2013 5:55 am || Up

      But that’s how you know the distance to the piles of poop that your neighbor’s dog left on the sidewalk.

    • ozzman99 Jan 30,2013 9:10 am || Up

      If your shit is red, you should probably consult a medical professional. Jennifer, perhaps. I’m sure she’s seen it before.

      • andeux Jan 30,2013 9:25 am || Up

        I had beets last night, it’s not a big deal.

        TINSTAAFK
        • ozzman99 Jan 30,2013 9:28 am || Up

          Mmm, roasted beets.

        • PDXAthleticsfan Jan 30,2013 9:29 am || Up

          But it is a fun party trick.

          A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
        • DFA Jan 30,2013 1:05 pm || Up

          I called in sick once and set up a doctors appointment before rememberin that the night before i ate beets.

          true fax

          In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
    • Einstein on the Beach Jan 30,2013 3:13 pm || Up

      hah

  11. doctorK Jan 30,2013 8:39 am

    1. Dutch “fans” FTL
    2. Holy misleading headline. I thought this meant that BYU-Hawaii was canceling two seasons of games.

    • dmoas Jan 30,2013 8:58 am || Up

      #2, I initially thought the same thing when I saw that yesterday.

    • MikeV Jan 30,2013 9:03 am || Up

      1. The response Altidore gave after the match was amazing. Very, very classy and mature.

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

      • ozzman99 Jan 30,2013 9:13 am || Up

        Yes, it’s great that he refused to stoop to their level.

  12. nevermoor Jan 30,2013 9:15 am

    K-Thug, man of my dreams.

    For those who don’t read the classics, Calvinball is a sport in which you change the rules whenever you feel like it, very much including in the middle of games.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • dmoas Jan 30,2013 9:38 am || Up

      That described the founding principals of the GOP.

      • Glorious Mundy Jan 30,2013 9:56 am || Up

        Please don’t insult Abraham Lincoln like that.

        • dmoas Jan 30,2013 11:06 am || Up

          GOP, not Republicans. Or did they really coin the “GOP” moniker even back then?

    • ptbnl Jan 30,2013 10:27 am || Up

      Though technically isn’t the only fixed rule of Calvinball that you can never play it the same way twice?

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • doctorK Jan 30,2013 10:40 am || Up

        I thought the only winning move was to not play.

      • nevermoor Jan 30,2013 11:32 am || Up

        …but could you change that rule?

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • ptbnl Jan 30,2013 11:53 am || Up

          Nope.

          If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
          • Future Ed Jan 30,2013 12:04 pm || Up

            this is how every game is played at the futuredome

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • nevermoor Jan 30,2013 12:44 pm || Up

            I’m aware of all internet traditions C&H strips. I was intending to ask a more philosophical question.

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
            • ptbnl Jan 30,2013 1:53 pm || Up

              Is there anything more philosophical than C&H?

              If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
              • nevermoor Jan 30,2013 3:14 pm || Up

                Ahah! Now you’re doing it too.

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  13. Glorious Mundy Jan 30,2013 10:03 am

  14. ozzman99 Jan 30,2013 11:33 am
    • colin Jan 30,2013 11:42 am || Up

      On some plane flight a few years ago, I was sitting next to this guy who is the grandfather of the Avenged Sevenfold singer. He was talking to the other person in my row, telling them about how his grandson was a nice, hard-working young man who started a band in the garage with his friends. So… not very metal.

      • ozzman99 Jan 30,2013 11:44 am || Up

        I’d like them better if their music didn’t suck.

        • Future Ed Jan 30,2013 11:48 am || Up

          sometimes a 13 seed advances to the elite 8.

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • colin Jan 30,2013 11:49 am || Up

          That’s a pretty good reason to not like them.

        • dmoas Jan 30,2013 12:04 pm || Up

          Interesting. I’d like you better if your music didn’t suck. But I like you well enough so it’s all good.

  15. Future Ed Jan 30,2013 12:03 pm

    Kay bait

    Incidentally, we divested of cable and are now a hulu plus household.

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • dmoas Jan 30,2013 12:16 pm || Up
      • andeux Jan 30,2013 12:25 pm || Up

        I basically agree with this one. Yglesias made similar points a few days ago.

        TINSTAAFK
        • dmoas Jan 30,2013 12:48 pm || Up

          Interesting. Yglesias gave a better summarization of what’s really going on backed by the math that the other one provided (with a more convoluted explanation).

        • nevermoor Jan 30,2013 12:48 pm || Up

          Glibertarian nonsense. IF he’s right about the unbundled costs, THEN he’s right that unbundling won’t help. But I don’t see any argument for the assumption other than a general appeal to rational markets. Which cable TV damn sure ain’t

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • dmoas Jan 30,2013 12:55 pm || Up

            The actual content providers would subject you to those costs one way or another to meet their bottom line. And since nearly every content provider sells a number of channels together, they’re sure as hell not going to offer their channels individually even if they “unbundle” it from the cable supplier. In reality, because of that provider-based bundling, you’d likely pay more to get all that you actually want access to then you would if it was bundled by the cable supplier. That’s assuming you maintain your normal viewing habits including channel surfing and the occasional peek in at various shows.

            • nevermoor Jan 30,2013 3:16 pm || Up

              Yes they are. Because they’ll be able to deliver those channels directly to me. And because they’ll be able to reach a larger audience -> more ad revenue.

              And any number of reasons that “we pay this, therefore under all circumstances will will continue to pay this” is a dumb argument.

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
              • dmoas Jan 30,2013 3:25 pm || Up

                Yes they are what? Going to unbundle their popular channel from their less popular channels? All of which they own/operate and want to profit off of? No way in hell would they do that.

                • nevermoor Jan 30,2013 3:53 pm || Up

                  Sorry, that was a weak sentence. Let me delete it and change to “There is no reason to categorically assume they will subject you to the same costs.”

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • dmoas Jan 30,2013 4:12 pm || Up

                  Ah. That wasn’t really my argument. Each individual network-based bundle (for lack of a better term) will likely cost around what they ask for from the cable provider per subscriber. It actually might be more since there’s less subsidization going on, but it’s very true that it may actually be less. What’s certain is that the actual cost for that bundle would be less than what the cable provider charges on the whole. The rub is that in order for the average person to get all the channels they currently view, the cumulative cost of all those bundles could very well be greater than the a la carte bundling. Part of the faulty thinking is that they expect to get, say, USA network without the rest of Universal/NBC’s channels which is extremely unlikely.

                • nevermoor Jan 30,2013 4:55 pm || Up

                  We appear to be arguing at cross purposes, then. I would expect content providers to provide various options depending on their particular products and needs. MY seems to be arguing that consumers won’t win because the ultimate cost will be equal. I think that’s wrong.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • dmoas Jan 30,2013 6:23 pm || Up

                  Probably. The game is fixed. Content providers won’t do anything that’ll reduce their bottom line and most are directly owned by a cable distributor. Selling for less or unbundling kills their bottom line for no gain, especially when it might encourage more people to leave cable.

        • Future Ed Jan 30,2013 12:51 pm || Up

          so yeah that. ComcastCA is not worth $60 a month to me

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • dmoas Jan 30,2013 12:58 pm || Up

            All of the pricing to value really is based on your viewing habits. And yours clearly doesn’t fall into line with what the cable providers provide so you’re not really their target audience. Which, more or less, makes it a lot easier (and cheaper) to get what you actually care to get (sans A’s).

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 30,2013 12:33 pm || Up

      Won’t this suck come baseball season?

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Future Ed Jan 30,2013 12:47 pm || Up

        My cable has never held ComcastCA. I have not seen a home broadcast of an A’s game in years. Now I will not be able to watch the giants. I can watch everything else on mlb.tv through the xbox.

        I was looking at the lineups in the cable/satellite, there is basically one thing I want that I can’t get from Hulu, that’s the A’s. Is it worth $70 a month to have the A’s on TV when I haven’t had that since 2006? I don’t think so. Maybe when the boys are 8 or so it will be more important to watch the games together, but now, they don’t care, and I am happy with the radio.

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
  16. ozzman99 Jan 30,2013 12:23 pm

    Stupidity. Gotta love it.

    • colin Jan 30,2013 12:27 pm || Up

      This has to be some kind of performance art, right?

    • dmoas Jan 30,2013 12:50 pm || Up

      It’s a load of BS. They’re just arrogant and stupid. They thought they’d be able to continue to cash in without realizing no one gave a shit about them. Blaming it on the Mayans despite running out of cash 2 years before? Yeah right.

    • Dial C for Concupiscence Jan 30,2013 1:17 pm || Up

      What a coincidence! The, uh, Mayan Prophecy is why I didn’t turn in my essay on Charlemagne in seventh grade too!

      • PDXAthleticsfan Jan 30,2013 1:35 pm || Up

        You might have gotten away with it if your essay was on Guatemala wasn’t for those damn kids.

        A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
        • Dial C for Concupiscence Jan 30,2013 2:15 pm || Up

          I should never have taught those kids how to meddle.

  17. dmoas Jan 30,2013 1:01 pm

    So Chris Culliver is kind of a tool.

    • ozzman99 Jan 30,2013 1:09 pm || Up

      Yeah, he needs to go.

    • DFA Jan 30,2013 1:28 pm || Up

      asshole

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
    • Glorious Mundy Jan 30,2013 1:44 pm || Up

      Damn. That’s pretty bad.

    • Future Ed Jan 30,2013 2:47 pm || Up

      related

      but why I wanted to link it is:

      Hi Tops” opened a few months ago, bartender Logan Chavarria says, “A lot of people come in and don’t even know it’s a gay bar and then we find out we have common bond,” NBC reports.

      really dude? they don’t know its a gay bar?

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • beebo Jan 30,2013 6:22 pm || Up

        Nope, nothing unusual about a bar with only dudes there. No sir.

        • DFA Jan 30,2013 6:57 pm || Up

          have you ever seen gay guys without straight girls

          In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
          • Kay Jan 30,2013 7:14 pm || Up

            At a leather/bear bar, yeah.

            \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
            • DFA Jan 30,2013 7:15 pm || Up

              GP

              In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
              • beebo Jan 31,2013 10:09 am || Up

                In LA at least, I heard it was fairly common for groups of straight women to hang out at gay bars, since the likelihood of getting harassed is/was considerably lower for them. Some friends report that a few bars occasionally have to face a new challenge: straight dudes who prowl gay bars in search of the straight women who take refuge there.

                We live in strange times.

                • dmoas Jan 31,2013 10:47 am || Up

                  What about straight men who like to go to gay bars so that they can feel pretty?

                • beebo Jan 31,2013 10:10 pm || Up

                  Hmm, hadn’t thought about that. I eagerly await your upcoming exposé for Jezebel or Gawker.

                • DFA Jan 31,2013 5:01 pm || Up

                  This is true lots of places. Places like Seattle and SF would be included.

                  I only go to gay bars when Im with someone who is gay specifically for the reason that I am good at gay bars. Im more than willing to dance with a gay guy and then girls are shocked that Im straight (“You can’t be straight youre too good a dancer!”) and want to make out. I don’t want to degrade the experience too much buy just going by myself. Gay clubs shouldn’t be over run with straight people.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 31,2013 5:30 pm || Up

                  You’re like the Rosa Parks of fake gay guys.

                  "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
                • ozzman99 Jan 31,2013 5:33 pm || Up

                  He didn’t stop at the gay bar because he was too tired to walk to the straight bar.

                • DFA Jan 31,2013 6:25 pm || Up

                  Im not a fake gay guy. I am a straight guy who can shake it.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • beebo Jan 31,2013 10:11 pm || Up

                  Oh, dear.

                • DFA Jan 31,2013 11:19 pm || Up

                  Honestly i just don’t like being compared to rosa parks, even in jest

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
    • JamesV Jan 31,2013 5:59 pm || Up
      • Glorious Mundy Jan 31,2013 6:10 pm || Up

        This seems overblown. I don’t doubt at all that they did that video without knowing it had anything to do with LGBT kids (Donte Whitner is the only one who obviously knew, and good for him). I don’t think they deserve to pilloried for basically saying, “Huh? I didn’t make any video like that.”

        • nevermoor Jan 31,2013 6:18 pm || Up

          Agreed. That it was more generic anti-bullying than anti-gay-bullying was our criticism of the video at the time, after all.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • Glorious Mundy Jan 31,2013 6:21 pm || Up

            The A’s video was even more generic, as I recall.

      • DFA Jan 31,2013 6:31 pm || Up

        “Oh, that. It was an anti-bullying video, not a gay (rights) video,” he said.

        When told that studies show that the majority of teens who are bullied are harassed over sexual identity issues, Brooks thought for a second.

        “I know that. I know that,” he said. “Okay, you’re right and I’m wrong. Are you from one of those New York newspapers?”

        I mean to me that sounds like that he wasn’t being a dick, he just did what he thought was a video against all bullying not specifically anti gay bullying. Someone and someone asked him if he did a gay rights video and he denied doing the video not because hes against gay people specifically but because he didn’t think of it as a gay rights video.

        In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
        • ozzman99 Jan 31,2013 6:53 pm || Up

          Although I’d guess that homophobic attitudes are probably prevalent among (male) pro athletes, and especially football players.

          • DFA Feb 2,2013 9:16 pm || Up

            Completely agree.

            In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
        • dmoas Jan 31,2013 6:54 pm || Up

          And they’re adding the “rights” assumption too. For all we know he really meant gay “bullying” video.

        • MikeV Jan 31,2013 8:22 pm || Up

          BUT BUT BUT HOW WILL THE MEDIA BLOW IT OUT OF PROPORTION THEN?!??!??!?!

          And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

          Thanks, and go As.

    • ozzman99 Feb 2,2013 8:46 pm || Up
      • DFA Feb 2,2013 9:16 pm || Up

        Yeah. Hopefully thats more than just a smart publicist.

        In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
        • ozzman99 Feb 2,2013 9:54 pm || Up

          Even if it’s intended merely as good pr, I hope he actually approaches it with an open mind and heart. It may change his attitude.

      • Kay Feb 3,2013 7:58 am || Up

        Sensitivity training should be mandatory for NFL players once a year, in training camp.

        \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
  18. elcroata Jan 30,2013 1:16 pm

    We are number 1 10 26!

    Because survival is insufficient
    • Glorious Mundy Jan 30,2013 1:18 pm || Up

      I’m just going to focus on how terrible the Angels’ system is.

      • Future Ed Jan 30,2013 1:22 pm || Up

        totes sucks to be them. I mean, they got nothin.

        [refuses to look at major league roster]

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • Kay Feb 3,2013 7:59 am || Up

          Pujols and Hamilton are in decline.

          I’m not as worried about them as others are. No FKing way do they win 94 games this year. 91, tops.

          \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
          • DFA Feb 3,2013 9:13 am || Up

            Their rotation is going to suck unless Tommy Hanson gets back on track.

            In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
    • colin Jan 30,2013 1:39 pm || Up

      In exchange for winning the AL West? I’ll take it.

      • Future Ed Jan 30,2013 2:10 pm || Up

        that’s the thing, the graduation of parker milone griffin and perhaps straily, mitigates the low ranking.

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • colin Jan 30,2013 2:16 pm || Up

          And Sickels says as much in his summary (same goes for the Nats, one spot ahead of Oakland).

      • nevermoor Jan 30,2013 3:18 pm || Up

        Yup. Same thing happened last time when Cahill/Anderson graduated. All of a sudden prospectors were hand wringing about our “thin” pitching system.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • Dial C for Concupiscence Jan 30,2013 1:50 pm || Up

      Take that Angels!

  19. batgirl Jan 30,2013 2:28 pm

    Cat people bait. I cannot decide which one is my favorite. Every time I’d pick one, there would be a later one I liked even more.

    • colin Jan 30,2013 2:33 pm || Up

      I’m pretty partial to that Misfits cover. Straight Outta Compton is pretty genius too.

    • dmoas Jan 30,2013 2:35 pm || Up

      The Footloose kitty looks like two of mine.

    • PDXAthleticsfan Jan 30,2013 2:53 pm || Up

      My vote is for the New York Dolls one.

      A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
    • doctorK Jan 30,2013 4:06 pm || Up

      I actually have a couple of those (Ramones and Captain Beefheart). My favorite is the Dark Cat Side of the Moon.

  20. JamesV Jan 30,2013 3:43 pm

    Couldn’t resist adding to this photo I took earlier. I know, original.

    • Glorious Mundy Jan 30,2013 4:14 pm || Up

      Where it’s at?
      I’ve got to be able to recycle those

  21. dmoas Jan 30,2013 3:52 pm
    • Dial C for Concupiscence Jan 30,2013 4:10 pm || Up

      I can think of no other situation where being on the hook with Marlins has screwed people over.

    • ozzman99 Jan 30,2013 6:04 pm || Up

      Damn, that fish has some serious sea cred.

  22. dmoas Jan 30,2013 4:35 pm

    Whoever decided to buy clicky pens for the office made a mistake. A biiiiig mistake [click click. click click. click click…]

    • JamesV Jan 30,2013 5:29 pm || Up

    • Jennifer Jan 30,2013 6:37 pm || Up

      I hate dicking around with pen caps.

      [waits for argument]

    • sslinger Jan 30,2013 9:18 pm || Up

      That reminds me of when ms.s & I were in Verona and went in to a snazzy modern Italian furniture store, and the entire time we walked around this “salesman” followed us clicking his pen incessantly. Needless to stay, we didn’t stay very long.

      • DFA Jan 30,2013 10:00 pm || Up

        how was muse?

        In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
        • sslinger Jan 31,2013 9:03 am || Up

          They put on a really good show. It had been ages since I’d been to an arena rock show, and we had nosebleeds, so it was much more of “going to see a show” than going to listen to music, which I’m more used to these days. But they rocked it out, and had a really effective light/stage setup that seemed deceptively simple at first but was really cool. We were all glad we were able to get those last minute tickets and go.

  23. Soaker Jan 30,2013 7:51 pm

    A note from the Slumbeat a few days ago:

    Other tidbits from this morning: Manager Bob Melvin, recent recipient of a contract extension that takes him through 2016, just closed on a house in the East Bay so will become a fulltime Bay Area resident again – the native of Menlo Park has lived in New York the past two winters.

    A lot of times “the East Bay” in the pro sports context means places like Danville/Blackhawk or Moraga, but looking it up (and no, I’m not posting his home address, but it can be determined from the online public records) the old Golden Bear returns to Berkeley, pretty close to (Oakland’s) Claremont Hotel.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • andeux Jan 30,2013 7:57 pm || Up

      Forst lives around there too.

      TINSTAAFK
      • Soaker Jan 30,2013 8:22 pm || Up

        Oddly, it looks like Forst and his wife sold the Benvenue house last year, with the sale closing on October 10 (Game 4 of the ALDS). A check of the records in the likely surrounding counties isn’t revealing a replacement purchase.

        What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • andeux Jan 30,2013 8:17 pm || Up

      Melvin’s house (if I have found the right place) looks like the kind of place you’d find in Danville/Blackhawk or Moraga.

      TINSTAAFK
      • Soaker Jan 30,2013 8:27 pm || Up

        When I lived in Rockridge my usual exercise walk route up into the hills took me past it all the time. It’s a replacement for one that burned in the 1991 fire, and everything built in that area in the early 90s was seemingly twice the size of whatever it replaced. That one is no exception. I don’t think he has a Bay/S.F. view from there though.

        What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • Soaker Jan 30,2013 9:02 pm || Up

        This is it, viewed from the rear. 5092 sq. ft., was listed at $2.295M. That little building in the foreground with the four square windows is a separate guest house (or servant’s quarters?). I would have to immediately get rid of all that damned cross-hatching framing on the windows.

        What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
        • ptbnl Jan 30,2013 10:09 pm || Up

          Time-honored French-Country Grace For Today’s Joie de Vivre.
          Profoundly incomparable, this French-Country-inspired home combines distinctive antique Provencal elements and striking architectural artistry throughout.

          Do you think a lobotomy is a requirement for real estate copywriting?

          If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
          • Soaker Jan 30,2013 10:20 pm || Up

            Hmmm…the places I look at are usually described as having “rustic charm” and being a “handyman’s delight”.

            What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
            • nevermoor Jan 30,2013 10:40 pm || Up

              I’m actually looking FOR that kind of place.

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
              • MikeV Jan 30,2013 10:43 pm || Up

                +p90x

                And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

                Thanks, and go As.

          • Dial C for Concupiscence Jan 31,2013 9:59 am || Up

            It’s like they wrote something and ran it through Google Translate a few times for kicks.

      • DFA Jan 30,2013 10:00 pm || Up

        So you saying it can fit an 85 inch tv?

        In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
        • MikeV Jan 30,2013 10:02 pm || Up

          85 inches

          AROUND

          And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

          Thanks, and go As.

  24. ozzman99 Jan 30,2013 8:43 pm

    Watch Letterman tonight for Shovels & Rope. You’re welcome.

    • Dial C for Concupiscence Jan 30,2013 8:50 pm || Up

      Is that like a knockoff Chutes & Ladders?

      • ozzman99 Jan 30,2013 8:55 pm || Up

        They’re great. Cary Ann Hearst is amazing.

  25. ozzman99 Jan 30,2013 9:06 pm

    Live-blogging Letterman: Jason Bateman just said “Nev-ah-dah.”

    • Soaker Jan 30,2013 9:13 pm || Up

      It’s going to be brutal through Sunday night.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • ozzman99 Jan 30,2013 9:31 pm || Up

      Alison Brie is cute, but a terrible storyteller.

    • ozzman99 Jan 30,2013 9:32 pm || Up

      Hey Mattress Firm, why do I have to buy a new mattress every 8 years? Why can’t I just clean the mattress I already have?

  26. ozzman99 Jan 30,2013 9:55 pm

    Google is celebrating the birth of Jackie Robinson.

  27. doctorK Jan 31,2013 9:48 am
    • colin Jan 31,2013 10:01 am || Up

      Knowing pretty much nothing about Menendez, I would say that it’s at least 98% likely that he did some bad shit.

      • PDXAthleticsfan Jan 31,2013 10:06 am || Up

        Fixed.

        Knowing pretty much nothing about Menendez , I would say that it’s at least 98% likely that did some bad shit.

        A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
        • PDXAthleticsfan Jan 31,2013 10:07 am || Up

          Or not fixed. Damn coding. Let’s try again:

          Knowing pretty much nothing about Menendez (insert name of any congressperson here), I would say that it’s at least 98% likely that (name of congressperson) did some bad shit.

          A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
          • Glorious Mundy Jan 31,2013 10:13 am || Up

            Further fixed

            Knowing pretty much nothing about Menendez (insert name of any congressperson politician from Hudson County, New Jersey here), I would say that it’s at least 98% likely that (name of congressperson politician from Hudson County, New Jersey) did some bad shit.

            • doctorK Jan 31,2013 10:18 am || Up

              Further further fixed

              Knowing pretty much nothing about Menendez (insert name of any congressperson politician from Hudson County, New Jersey anywhere here), I would say that it’s at least 98% likely that (name of congressperson politician from Hudson County, New Jersey anywhere) did some bad shit.

            • PDXAthleticsfan Jan 31,2013 10:19 am || Up

              Further refined by inserting any locale in South Carolina, Florida, Illinois, DC.

              We should just provide our elected officials a monthly hooker stipend and move on.

              A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
    • ozzman99 Jan 31,2013 10:27 am || Up

      This should be headlined “Florida Doctor Doesn’t Believe in Buying Local.”

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 31,2013 11:12 am || Up

      The FBI loves political corruption cases and will often jump in based on far less evidence than they’d need to investigate, say, banking and investment fraud.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Dial C for Concupiscence Jan 31,2013 1:03 pm || Up

      Some smart consideration by his counsel to consider the Friendship Exemption. I would have examined the Congressional Mulligan and the Nuh Uh Did Not Defense as well.

      • DFA Jan 31,2013 5:02 pm || Up

        Except the Friendship exemption is real

        In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
  28. JamesV Jan 31,2013 10:30 am
    • ozzman99 Jan 31,2013 10:39 am || Up

      All my friends in F&B tell me that the post-church Sunday brunch crowd are the worst tippers around.

      Also, you don’t give God any money at all. You give it to your church.

      • dmoas Jan 31,2013 10:50 am || Up

        Seriously. How stupid is that? “I only give god 10%.” 10% of what? Cause it sure ain’t cash. And these fking people get tax exemption. They’re running a fking for profit business prey on people’s faith. Ludicrous.

        • andeux Jan 31,2013 10:59 am || Up

          Per one of the linked followups, the pastor in question is a woman who runs her own church. So by “God,” she means herself.

          TINSTAAFK
          • ozzman99 Jan 31,2013 12:02 pm || Up

            What a great scam religion has going.

          • ozzman99 Jan 31,2013 5:24 pm || Up

            I love that she was surprised that the restaurant charged her an 18% gratuity even though she crossed it out. Um, yeah. It’s their stated policy, idiot.

        • ozzman99 Jan 31,2013 12:01 pm || Up

          And they preach politics from the pulpit. Churches need to be taxed.

        • DFA Jan 31,2013 5:04 pm || Up

          And they fucking park in the god damn street and don’t get ticketed.

          In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
          • dmoas Jan 31,2013 6:55 pm || Up

            Yeah, I heard about that. That’s some Grade-A bullshit.

      • FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 31,2013 11:06 am || Up

        Also, God needs to update his standards. A 20% cut is considered baseline for modern deities.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • ozzman99 Jan 31,2013 12:03 pm || Up

          What they need is a progressive tithing system. Or perhaps regressive would be more appropriate.

        • DFA Jan 31,2013 5:04 pm || Up

          at least the percentage system keeps up with inflation

          In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
  29. JamesV Jan 31,2013 3:29 pm

    Win. See the video description as well.

    • colin Jan 31,2013 7:10 pm || Up

      This is awesome, but also making me cry because my mom’s dog died on tuesday.

  30. Glorious Mundy Jan 31,2013 3:36 pm

    I think your opinions on Girls are fascinating, but my dad says you don’t work hard enough on defense.

    • Future Ed Jan 31,2013 3:50 pm || Up

      what did I just read?

      That was a standard TV review. From…uh…does he do that a lot?

      And how cool is it that he name checked wonderfalls?

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • Glorious Mundy Jan 31,2013 3:54 pm || Up

        It’s quite well written, actually. I’m not going to forget this bit anytime soon:

        This season that white ghetto was breached by a black character who is introduced as some jungle fever lover, with just enough screen time to have sex and mutter a couple of lines about wanting more of a relationship. A black dildo would have sufficed and cost less.

        • Future Ed Jan 31,2013 3:58 pm || Up

          he had a quality education at a quality school

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • Glorious Mundy Jan 31,2013 4:09 pm || Up

            More so than the place Wilt went.

            /Bed bait

          • andeux Jan 31,2013 4:13 pm || Up

            Based on extensive research (i.e. I’ve seen him on Celebrity Jeopardy a couple of times), I’ve concluded that Kareem is a pretty smart guy.

            TINSTAAFK
            • FreeSeatUpgrade Jan 31,2013 4:58 pm || Up

              Agreed. But also kind of prickly and thin-skinned.

              "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • DFA Jan 31,2013 5:20 pm || Up

          Its not untrue.

          But lets be honest the real problem isn’t the Dunham portrays white hipsters as having no non white friends.

          THE PROBLEM IS THAT WHITE HIPSTERS DON’T HAVE BLACK FRIENDS.

          In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
    • beebo Jan 31,2013 10:15 pm || Up

      Am I the only person on earth that’s never seen an episode of this show? (I guess seeing Lena Dunham from across the street doesn’t count)

      • Glorious Mundy Jan 31,2013 10:27 pm || Up

        You’re not the only person that never seen an episode, but you are the only person that hasn’t expressed an opinion about it on the internet.

      • ozzman99 Jan 31,2013 10:40 pm || Up

        I had never even heard of it until it came up the other day.

        • elcroata Feb 1,2013 2:20 am || Up

          That is one other day before I did

          Because survival is insufficient
      • doctorK Jan 31,2013 10:43 pm || Up

        I tried to watch an episode and lasted about 10 minutes.

        • beebo Jan 31,2013 10:54 pm || Up

          I saw Tiny Furniture a few months ago and really, really hated it, so I’ve used that as a litmus test.

    • Future Ed Feb 6,2013 3:40 pm || Up

      Following up:

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kareem-abduljabbar/kareem-abdul-jabbar-girls-review_b_2615824.html?utm_hp_ref=tv&ir=TV

      Block quote:

      What do people expect when an ex-jock discusses pop culture? “Hmmm. Magic light box have good shows. Me like some. Others make me puke Gatorade. Me give it three jock straps.” /Block quote

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  31. Future Ed Jan 31,2013 4:00 pm

    Down the rabbit hole from GM’s link

    what the what!

    She holds narrow leads in hypothetical match ups with Marco Rubio (46/45) and Chris Christie (45/43) and a wider one in a contest against Rick Perry (50/42).

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • Glorious Mundy Jan 31,2013 4:05 pm || Up

      Rick Perry’s political career is beyond over. I don’t put too much stock in head-to-head trial heats like this where one of the potential candidates has such superior name recognition, but that 50/43 fav/unfav is sort of breathtaking.

      • nevermoor Jan 31,2013 4:09 pm || Up

        I don’t buy it. She’s become popular among certain moderates/conservatives as the alternative to Obama. If she won a Democratic primary, it would be all the same Clinton scandals all over again.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • Glorious Mundy Jan 31,2013 4:13 pm || Up

          She will not win Texas. But starting at 50 percent favorability there is an indication that she would be a strong favorite to win nationwide. Also, what Clinton scandals would they tar Hillary with?

          • andeux Jan 31,2013 4:16 pm || Up

            She killed Vince Foster!

            TINSTAAFK
          • nevermoor Jan 31,2013 4:19 pm || Up

            “Letting” Bill cheat on her, killing whatshisname, every bullshit scandal during those 8 years, the sniper-fire thing that was a passing issue in 2008, etc. etc.

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
            • Glorious Mundy Jan 31,2013 4:25 pm || Up

              All of that will appeal to some portion of the 40% of the country that no Democrat can win ever, but it’s useless for winning over the voters Republicans would need to beat her. That kind of fringy crap probably plays to her advantage if anything.

              • nevermoor Jan 31,2013 4:41 pm || Up

                I’m saying I don’t buy the >50% favorability. I’m not saying winning Texas would be impossible (for the reasons PDX says below).

                My only point is a fair bit of that favorability is coming from conservatives. Who would flip in no time were she ever actually the nominee.

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • PDXAthleticsfan Jan 31,2013 4:21 pm || Up

            She may not win Texas in 2016; however, if immigration reform ends up with some sort of road to citizenship, it’s not impossible, depending on who the opponent is. Blacks/Hispanics are now somewhere around 45-47% of the population – that’s probably gonna grow. Unless the GOP finds a way to make some sort of inroads into capturing the Hispanic population, Texas isn’t out of the question.

            A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
            • ozzman99 Jan 31,2013 5:27 pm || Up

              It amazes me that the GOP looks at the fact that they lose every demographic except white males and instead of thinking, “Gee, maybe our policy positions aren’t what those groups support,” they instead assume either that they aren’t getting their existing message out or that those groups only support Democrats because there is an inherent flaw in said groups. Just how far up your ass does your head need to be to not see the obvious truth?

          • DFA Jan 31,2013 5:27 pm || Up

            1 Hillary is harder to pin something on than tefflon

            2 That shit was 20 years ago at this point.

            In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
            • ozzman99 Jan 31,2013 5:29 pm || Up

              It’s hilarious watching conservatives scramble to make an issue out of Benghazi and try to claim that she and Obama are covering up some sort of wrongdoing (probably an evil conspiracy to take away our guns and abort our children while forcing the Koch brothers to pay for everyone’s food, crack, and healthcare).

            • nevermoor Jan 31,2013 6:15 pm || Up

              Obama did just fine with the fake sniper fire thing.

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
              • DFA Jan 31,2013 6:32 pm || Up

                what fake sniper thing

                In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • nevermoor Jan 31,2013 6:35 pm || Up
                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • DFA Jan 31,2013 6:45 pm || Up

                  Oh I remember that. I thought you were talking about Newtown conspiracy theorists. Again 8 years v 16 years when she also had a career in the Senate and at State. Her shitty Iraq vote wont be a big deal then either.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • ozzman99 Jan 31,2013 6:46 pm || Up

                  Sinbad?

        • DFA Jan 31,2013 5:25 pm || Up

          I think shes gained a lot of good will over the last four years. I think you underestimate that.

          In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
          • Glorious Mundy Jan 31,2013 5:39 pm || Up

            Totally agree. And let’s not forget how popular Bill has become. Judging by the response to his speech at the DNC, there is probably a not insignificant group of persuadable voters that would view a Hillary presidency as a desirable end run around the 22nd Amendment

            • DFA Jan 31,2013 6:34 pm || Up

              I agree with this.

              In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
          • nevermoor Jan 31,2013 6:16 pm || Up

            I think you overestimate it. She’s the not-Obama the exact same way McCain was the not-Bush right up until he was the GOP nominee.

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
            • Glorious Mundy Jan 31,2013 6:19 pm || Up

              She’s been in the Obama administration for four years. McCain was actively antagonizing Bush from the Senate for four years.

              • DFA Jan 31,2013 6:34 pm || Up

                This.

                Also McCain got less Mavericky

                In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
              • nevermoor Jan 31,2013 6:36 pm || Up

                So? She was Sec State, not the VP

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • Glorious Mundy Jan 31,2013 6:42 pm || Up

                  I’m just saying despite having run against Obama, she’s not exactly in the position for Republicans that McCain was for Democrats from 2000-2003. She’s been loyally working for Obama for four years and her husband was one of Obama’s most important campaign surrogates. McCain, at least before his fateful hug with W, could legitimately be seen as still being a political and ideological adversary to Bush.

                • DFA Jan 31,2013 6:50 pm || Up

                  Also it is unlikely that Obama ends up as unpopular as Bush.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • nevermoor Jan 31,2013 6:57 pm || Up

                  That doesn’t really matter.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • DFA Jan 31,2013 11:20 pm || Up

                  It does because Obama won’t be the albatross slung around her neck.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • nevermoor Jan 31,2013 6:57 pm || Up

                  We disagree there.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  32. ozzman99 Jan 31,2013 10:48 pm

    I think someone linked to the story of the guy who’s squatting in Florida, but if not, here it is. Makes me think that it would be interesting if someone could organize mass squatting in bank-owned properties all across the country. Sort of taking Occupy to the next level.

    • beebo Jan 31,2013 10:59 pm || Up

      The neighbor also said the form posted in the window is “total gibberish,” which indicated that the house is an embassy, and that those who enter must present two forms of identification, and respect the rights of its indigenous people.

      Not bad.

      • ozzman99 Jan 31,2013 11:05 pm || Up

        Someday, when I’m a property owner (like that’s ever gonna happen), I’m gonna secede from the union.

    • dmoas Jan 31,2013 11:07 pm || Up

      The owner just needs to stand his ground. Someone broke into their home. That’s pretty threatening to me.

      • ozzman99 Jan 31,2013 11:30 pm || Up

        The owner is BofA. And they’re having quite a bit of trouble getting the guy out. Plus, it sounds like the guy is crazy.

  33. beebo Jan 31,2013 11:56 pm
    • nobody in particular Feb 1,2013 12:49 am || Up

      “a nasty, foul river…”

      AKA John Jaha Cove.

      Never suck on a Blow Pop with the microphone open.
  34. Kay Feb 1,2013 8:13 am

    I wonder if this will post… clicking the “reply” button isn’t working on any comment for me at this time.

    \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
  35. PDXAthleticsfan Feb 1,2013 8:16 am

    In reply to Kay: yes, it posted and I am having the same problem.

    A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
  36. Kay Feb 1,2013 8:17 am

    Now I’m on my phone. let’s see if this nests as a reply.

    \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
    • Soaker Feb 1,2013 8:27 am || Up

      I can reply through the dashboard but not on the main page.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  37. Kay Feb 1,2013 8:18 am

    nope.

    \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
  38. PDXAthleticsfan Feb 1,2013 8:28 am

    Didn’t work when I switched browsers, either. Quick, someone, flash the “nevermoor” signal.

    A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
    • Soaker Feb 1,2013 8:34 am || Up

      Whoops, wrong button.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  39. dmoas Feb 1,2013 8:38 am

    Soaker seems to make it work. But I can’t.

  40. JamesV Feb 1,2013 9:00 am

    Reply isn’t working for me in Firefox either.

    I’ve also had some strange issues with the site on my Galaxy Nexus. No matter what option I use to try to pick between Standard and Mobile it seems to change the display to an odd combination of the two that doesn’t allow me to navigate well at all. I’ll see if I can add a couple screenshots later.

  41. JamesV Feb 1,2013 9:02 am

    It’s the nevermoor signal!

  42. MikeV Feb 1,2013 9:04 am

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

  43. nevermoor Feb 1,2013 9:44 am

    Bizarre. No idea what broke.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  44. nevermoor Feb 1,2013 9:47 am

    Something went wrong in the code. The AJAX isn’t working either (and the reply box is missing its buttons)

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  45. Dial C for Concupiscence Feb 1,2013 9:50 am

    I tried logging in and out again, and it didn’t fix it. There’s no hope!

  46. nevermoor Feb 1,2013 9:52 am

    WTF… broken on my sandbox too.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  47. Glorious Mundy Feb 1,2013 9:56 am

    “So, nevermoor: Would you say it’s time for everyone to panic?”
    “Yes I would, Kent.”

  48. JamesV Feb 1,2013 9:59 am

    WE’RE FKED.

  49. FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 1,2013 10:11 am

    @Glorious Mundy:

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  50. dmoas Feb 1,2013 10:21 am

    I think one of the (external) plug-ins isn’t working right. Either disabled or moved or altered in some way.

  51. nevermoor Feb 1,2013 10:26 am

    I think it’s a host issue. We should be able to load this file: http://freekraut.net/wp-content/plugins/wordpress-thread-comment/wp-thread-comment.js.php?jsver=common but for some reason it’s saying access forbidden.

    It might finally be time to switch hosts to something more expensive.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  52. dmoas Feb 1,2013 10:30 am

    It’s also having trouble with http://freekraut.net/wp-content/plugins/comment-form-quicktags/quicktags.php. Might check the tree to see if any of the file/folder permissions have been inadvertently changed to not allow external access. I doubt it, but it’s possible.

    • nevermoor Feb 1,2013 10:42 am || Up

      That isn’t it (replying from dashboard).

      I don’t know what to do on this one.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • dmoas Feb 1,2013 11:00 am || Up

        Ugh. Kind of figured that was a long shot. Assuming no changes had been made to anything in the last 24 hours (likely since you would have likely said something) and assuming the sandbox is hosted on the same server, then you’re probably right in that it’s a host issue. I blame ozzman.

  53. JamesV Feb 1,2013 10:31 am
    • dmoas Feb 1,2013 11:01 am || Up

      I mostly certainly will judge you. I have yet to decide just how I plan to judge you, but I’m going to damn it!

  54. ozzman99 Feb 1,2013 10:33 am

    WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE!

  55. sslinger Feb 1,2013 10:47 am

    OK fine, nm, you can have $5.

  56. batgirl Feb 1,2013 10:55 am

    @JamesV judge you? Imma be glued to that thing all Sunday long.

  57. nevermoor Feb 1,2013 11:02 am

    Sent a support question. If they did it, I’m ditching them.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  58. nevermoor Feb 1,2013 11:10 am

    Host response:

    We are aware of an issue affecting some user services and are working to address this now, unfortunately I am unable to provide a time estimate or further information at this point in time.

    We apologize for the inconvenience and disruption.

    Moving hosts would be a little over $100 a year, at least if we use these guys, and I’d want to collect at least some of that. It would also be a better service. Should we do it? Are there better hosts to move to?

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  59. andeux Feb 1,2013 11:11 am

    Also I was getting “Resource limit exceeded” and “Database error” messages for a brief time last night (I think it was around 7.)
    May not be related, as the site was working fine for a few hours after that.

    TINSTAAFK
  60. nevermoor Feb 1,2013 11:16 am

    They added: “Yes, it is an issue of a security module affecting the network, we are working to address it on the module level.”

    @Andeux: I know we sometimes exceed our resource limits, so I would suspect that is not the issue.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • Soaker Feb 1,2013 12:38 pm || Up

      If you switch hosts you want to be real clear what the usage limitations are on the new account. At our lightly-trafficked phpBB forum which is hosted on Siteground we were running into our “Account Executions” limitations (12000/24 hr). I know the primary admin blocked a lot of the spammer traffic from China etc. and some of the bots and that seemed to get control of the situation. Current cPanel shot showing how close we are to the limits:

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  61. DFA Feb 1,2013 11:41 am

    WHAT AM I SUPPOSE TO DO AT WORK IF FK IS BROKEN?

    I AM JUST SITTING HERE SCARED AND ALONE.

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
  62. nevermoor Feb 1,2013 11:46 am

    @DFA: Read this. Smile.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  63. colin Feb 1,2013 11:50 am

    No, DFA should read this:

  64. DFA Feb 1,2013 11:51 am

    @NM

    I had seen that. I did smile.

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
  65. Dial C for Concupiscence Feb 1,2013 1:27 pm

    @DFA I think the safe and logical response in this kind of situation is unhinged hysteria.

  66. andeux Feb 1,2013 2:11 pm

    Reply button doesn’t work #obamasamerica

    TINSTAAFK
  67. Soaker Feb 1,2013 5:33 pm

    So much for selling the thing to the venture capitalists.

    ” frameborder=”0″ allowfullscreen>

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  68. FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 1,2013 8:55 pm

    You know, if I’m about to (justifiably) have cops throw me to the ground and beat and arrest me, I’d appreciate it if they’d let me do 20 whippets in a row first. Not a bad deal, really.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  69. ozzman99 Feb 1,2013 10:52 pm

    @NM: I trust your judgement. If you decide to move, I’d be more than happy to contribute to the cause.

  70. nevermoor Feb 2,2013 12:35 am

    I’m leaning towards moving at this point. It’s more about time to work on it than anything else.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • Dial C for Concupiscence Feb 2,2013 11:37 am || Up

      Is it working again now?

      • Dial C for Concupiscence Feb 2,2013 11:38 am || Up

        I can apparently reply again at least

    • MikeV Feb 2,2013 11:59 am || Up

      Anything I can do to help, let me know.

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

      • MikeV Feb 2,2013 11:59 am || Up

        HEY REPLY WORKED

        And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

        Thanks, and go As.

      • nevermoor Feb 2,2013 3:43 pm || Up

        At this point I’m mostly interested in good hosting recs. I don’t even remember where gearhost came from.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • MikeV Feb 2,2013 5:19 pm || Up

          Do not use site5 or GoDaddy, that’s about all I got.

          And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

          Thanks, and go As.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 2,2013 12:03 pm || Up

      If we can throw a little money at it and permanently lessen the time demands and outages, it seems like money well spent to me.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Soaker Feb 2,2013 12:27 pm || Up

        We are talking roughly the cost of a dozen Coliseum beers per year? That’s a no-brainer. When I saw “Error establishing a database connection” this morning I was imagining poor Mrs. nm with the wailing baby in one room and the husband yelling Shit! Fuck! at his monitor in the other.

        What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • brian.only Feb 2,2013 1:22 pm || Up

        Me three!

      • batgirl Feb 3,2013 8:03 am || Up

        Yep–I’d be happy to contribute.

  71. nevermoor Feb 2,2013 11:37 am

    Replies are working again. Quicktags still not. I contacted gearhost to see what they say about CPU resources.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • Dial C for Concupiscence Feb 2,2013 11:40 am || Up

      Yay! Great work! I think I can safely disengage caps lock and put the panic away for another day.

    • ozzman99 Feb 2,2013 2:50 pm || Up

      So I can turn off the 40 watt bulb in the basement and throw away the angry letter to the government?

      • dmoas Feb 2,2013 3:10 pm || Up

        Let’s not be hasty. Just put the letter somewhere safe. Just in case.

        • ozzman99 Feb 2,2013 3:17 pm || Up

          Good idea. This is why they pay you the big bucks.

          • dmoas Feb 2,2013 3:35 pm || Up

            You mean it’s not for my ravishing good… yeah… you’re right, that’s probably what it’s for.

  72. brian.only Feb 2,2013 5:26 pm

    So My Bloody Valentine announces they are releasing a new album today, the link has 403’d, I has a sad…

    • colin Feb 2,2013 7:49 pm || Up

      Website is back up — http://mybloodyvalentine.org

      • brian.only Feb 2,2013 11:14 pm || Up

        Oh man, so fking happy, A year ago Kevin Shields floated the possibility but I never thought it would actually happen.
        Love that they just sprang it on the interwebs.

        They sure did their best to make it hard to fking buy.
        90’s band with 90’s website, eeesh.

        Can’t wait to see them come around again, hope they add US dates.

        One of my all time favorite bands rides again!

        • colin Feb 3,2013 5:51 am || Up

          It’s not cheap!

        • Kay Feb 3,2013 8:01 am || Up

          I lost respect for them a long time ago. Kevin Shields is a terminal noodler and he weighs his work far too highly. Hello, you’re a shoegaze band… a trend that died 20 years ago… and you took 22 years to put out your next album? You make Guns’N’Roses look efficient and timely in comparison!

          \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
          • beebo Feb 3,2013 9:19 am || Up

            From the archives:

            • DFA Feb 3,2013 9:51 am || Up

              I really like Dinosaur Jr.!

              In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
              • Kay Feb 3,2013 1:26 pm || Up

                Me too! Who’d’a thunk they’d outlive Sonic Youth (hiatus notwithstanding)?

                \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
                • colin Feb 3,2013 1:29 pm || Up

                  Who’d’a thunk that Mark E. Smith / The Fall would outlive any/everyone?

                • colin Feb 3,2013 1:32 pm || Up

                  Though I guess if we open this up to all comers, Jagger/Richards will win handily.

                • ozzman99 Feb 3,2013 1:47 pm || Up

                  Are you absolutely sure they’re not Bernies?

                • DFA Feb 3,2013 10:09 pm || Up

                  me in high school when I was into them

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • Kay Feb 4,2013 8:28 am || Up

                  Dude is a SERIOUS alcoholic who can’t remember his lyrics, so he brings printouts on stage with him, and then stumbles and drops them, and just starts picking up paper and singing whatever lyric to whatever song. This was in 2003, btw. I’d hate to see how far he’s fallen since then.

                  Yet, he can still write interesting poetic lyrics and abstract commentaries-in-song-form. I have “their” 2005 and 2010 albums, and they’re almost as good as a lot of the classic material. Nothing will ever top Hex Enduction Hour, tho. “Iceland” still gives me chills whenever I hear it (especially in the dark).

                  \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
                • colin Feb 4,2013 8:37 am || Up

                  I saw them play in maybe 2007 or 2008. It was pretty much the same deal.

          • DFA Feb 3,2013 9:48 am || Up

            This seems like a really silly complaint. Who gives a shit if their genre isn’t popular anymore, should we only make music that is popular? Should we not get to have synthy 80s sounding bands because its thirty years later? Should we not have new classical music because theyre hasn’t been super innovative classical for a hundred years?

            In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
            • colin Feb 3,2013 10:04 am || Up

              Aren’t synthy 80’s sounding bands super popular right now?

              • DFA Feb 3,2013 10:21 am || Up

                No, psht we would never.

                Now let me get back to listening to this
                https://youtube.com/watch?v=_be-2uK3TnI%3Flist%3DPL8F45E9EE4DD53E85” frameborder=”0″ allowfullscreen>

                In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
            • beebo Feb 3,2013 10:32 am || Up

              No super innovative “classical” music? Eye (or ear) of the beholder, I guess.

              Anyhoo, there’s nothing inherently wrong with genre revivalism, but we are definitely seeing a lot of older, once-extinct groups popping back up from the grave to cash in on it. (See also: lots and lots of reissued albums floating around in the past few years)

              I think the point is that for some (but not all) artists, their heyday has come and gone, and this next MBV thing probably isn’t going to eclipse “Loveless.”

              • dmoas Feb 3,2013 10:44 am || Up

                Are you mistaking innovative for good? There are plenty of good classical/symphonic pieces that are new, but what’s out there that’s particularly innovative?

                • beebo Feb 3,2013 11:06 am || Up

                  No, not necessarily. But to the assertion that there’s no innovation or interesting experimentation in “classical” music in the last hundred years is a stretch. Musique concrete and all of that.

              • DFA Feb 3,2013 10:56 am || Up

                That might not have been fair. Im not really into classical.

                I mean a bunch of greatest hits albums and tours are far more likely to cash you in than releasing one new album every 20 years.

                And Bowie’s new album isn’t going to be better than his heyday, doesn’t mean I still don’t want to hear it.

                In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • colin Feb 3,2013 11:18 am || Up

                  I am totally fine with revivalism, as long as the music is good. I posted that Iceage video in the most recent lounge that pretty much sounds like Joy Division but a) it would be a pretty good Joy Division song and b) Joy Division was cut off prematurely, so we never got enough of them in the first place.

                • DFA Feb 3,2013 11:20 am || Up

                  Do you like the sneaky sound system I posted?

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • DFA Feb 3,2013 12:01 pm || Up

                  Awesome. You might want to check out Van She… Also off of Modular

                  ” frameborder=”0″ allowfullscreen>

                  Ive been super into them since they released their EP in like 2006

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • colin Feb 3,2013 12:08 pm || Up

                  I got more of a 90’s house vibe from them, rather than an 80’s synth vibe.

                • DFA Feb 3,2013 12:11 pm || Up

                  Yeah… I can see that. Its more the Aussie Synth pop which spans those two genres.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • colin Feb 3,2013 12:15 pm || Up

                  Aussies make some darn fine music.

                • DFA Feb 3,2013 12:18 pm || Up

                  Yeah. But Im inlove with a Canadian

                  ” frameborder=”0″ allowfullscreen>

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • Kay Feb 3,2013 1:27 pm || Up

                  She’s awesome too!

                  \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
                • DFA Feb 3,2013 10:09 pm || Up

                  I would kill her husband and try to marry her if her husband wasn’t the base player in Dragonette.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • colin Feb 4,2013 11:50 am || Up

                  I’m not crazy about the song, but her hair rules hard.

                • DFA Feb 4,2013 1:56 pm || Up

                  ionno i love that dancey pop.

                  She is incredibly beautiful and is definitely on my top 10 celebrity bone list.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • nevermoor Feb 4,2013 2:11 pm || Up

                  Heh. I thought I was in the SB thread was was worried you were talking about Beyonce.

                  Phew.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • DFA Feb 4,2013 2:16 pm || Up

                  @nm her music is meh to bad, but she can shake it like a polaroid picture… HEY YA

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • colin Feb 4,2013 2:31 pm || Up

                  @nm hold on a sec… are you saying that Beyonce is *not* on your top 10 celebrity bone list?

                • nevermoor Feb 4,2013 3:20 pm || Up

                  Certainly not today. Almost certainly not ever.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
              • brian.only Feb 3,2013 4:02 pm || Up

                Well luckily Loveless is not my favorite album of theirs.
                So far really enjoying the new one after a full listen.

          • brian.only Feb 3,2013 4:08 pm || Up

            Kay your killing me, Ok, terminal noodler who inspired countless bands and really brought something new to guitar playing?

            I’d say relatively instant fame combined with a paradigm shift in British music ( Oasis ) did them in more than anything.
            They were the darlings of the press one month then utterly lambasted the next, gotta be tough.

            • Kay Feb 4,2013 8:43 am || Up

              I don’t think that using 37 overdubs every song was new to guitar playing. Robert Fripp and Brian May had that stuff nailed down 15 years earlier. I guess some of the soundscapes Shields created with guitar effects were pretty novel to rock at the time, but many of them are super reminiscent of Philip Glass’ chorus+synthesizer arrangements of the 70’s (Music in 12 Parts, etc.), so it’s not as if they were new to music in general. I see Shields as an adaptor, and eventually, a malcontent and/or head case in the Axl Rose vein, albeit not as obnoxious.

              \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
              • DFA Feb 4,2013 8:52 am || Up

                I mean I think what Sir Only is saying is that regardless of whether or not it was completely original, the fact that so many bands were influenced by MBV is significant.

                Like the Velvet Underground, what they inspired probably is better than what they produced themselves which makes listening to the original even better.

                In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
              • brian.only Feb 4,2013 10:42 am || Up

                Great, now I have to listen to Music in 12 parts all day. ;)

                See where your coming from, no music is created in a vacuum, but to compare “Chinese Democracy” to “MBV” is a crime against humanity, at least Shields delivered.
                I’d say it was more press speculation/ badgering than him bringing up the ‘new album’ all the time, I mean the guy hates doing interviews.

  73. brian.only Feb 3,2013 9:20 pm

    Huh, now this is interesting.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/03/republicans-push-tea-party-campaign-fund

    Ironic seeing as the last two presidential candidates were once ‘moderates’ were forced to violently veer right slugging it out in the primaries.
    Are there any truly high profile moderate republicans left?
    Whatever the case seems pretty dire when you need to finance campaigns against your own party.

    Something tells me there’s still quite a ways to go for them when I read this.

    “Our party has lost six Senate seats over the last two election cycles not because of our ideas but because of undisciplined candidates running weak campaigns.”

  74. elcroata Feb 4,2013 7:29 am

    Second part of platooning. Much easier on the math and featuring an A or two. And Unicorns!

    Because survival is insufficient
    • nevermoor Feb 4,2013 10:01 am || Up

      Yeah. Eat it Pujols/Hamilton!

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  75. ptbnl Feb 4,2013 1:34 pm

    If you’re going to use your police force to infiltrate activist groups, why not use the identities of dead children to provide the cover?

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • Future Ed Feb 6,2013 2:16 pm || Up

      Happens here too

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • ozzman99 Feb 6,2013 2:24 pm || Up

        Yeah, that’s how the Vietnamese guy on “21 Jump Street” ended up with a Japanese name.

        • dmoas Feb 6,2013 2:37 pm || Up

          It’s always how the Korean dude in the new Star Trek movies became Japanese!

  76. beebo Feb 4,2013 7:17 pm

    Your chance to buy a pair of Bartolo Colon’s used pants is now here. Bid now!

    • Englishmajor Feb 5,2013 12:27 am || Up

      Not just any Colon pants – Colon Oakland Oaks pants. Wow.

      • Jennifer Feb 5,2013 5:31 pm || Up

        Colon used pants? No thanks. I see enough of that at work.

        • beebo Feb 6,2013 5:26 am || Up

          I must say, they look remarkably clean.

  77. ptbnl Feb 5,2013 6:14 pm

    I’ve got my travel planner mojo working overtime today … just wrangled the flights for a 10-day trip for 2 from Oakland to Dublin, Yorkshire and New York during July and August for $500.

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • brian.only Feb 5,2013 6:41 pm || Up

      Wow, thats some serious value!

      • ptbnl Feb 6,2013 9:50 am || Up

        Yup – and 60% of the cost was the Dublin (Ireland) – Birmingham (UK) return flights.

        The total cost of 2 seats on SFO/FRA/DUB/BOS/LGA:EWR/SFO flying United, Lufthansa, Aer Lingus, US Airways & United and with breaks in Dublin and NYC was $200.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
        • nevermoor Feb 6,2013 9:55 am || Up

          Holy shit.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • JamesV Feb 6,2013 10:01 am || Up

          That’s amazing.

        • beebo Feb 6,2013 10:02 am || Up

          So how the hell did you do that?

          • ptbnl Feb 6,2013 10:25 am || Up

            These are award flights, but even then you have to pick your routes carefully

            – saver awards are 30K miles/leg and standard awards are 55K miles/leg, so it had to be the vary scarce saver awards to get both seats on miles.

            – though saver awards are scarce on United it is the standard awards that are scarce on the partner airlines, since they want to minimize their use and the travel has to be at the same level throughout the trip.

            – award flights don’t cover airport taxes, which are absurd eg. at Heathrow ($170 per seat) further reducing the options.

            I have a grease monkey script that scrapes the United website to locate all award-eligible flights. Then it was just a question of piecing these together to get from A to B by any route necessary.

            It was fun to phone the United agent at that point and read off this ridiculous list of flights and slowly have their confusion give way to enlightenment. By the end she was pretty impressed!

            If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
            • beebo Feb 6,2013 10:41 am || Up

              Bravo, especially to the search script. That is dedication.

              • ptbnl Feb 6,2013 10:49 am || Up

                To be clear, I didn’t write it but just found it online.

                If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
            • Dial C for Concupiscence Feb 6,2013 11:09 am || Up

              Wow. That is some craziness. So award flights are based on miles you’ve accrued, right?

              • ptbnl Feb 6,2013 11:39 am || Up

                Yup. I flew over 100K actual miles last year and earned 160K award miles; this trip cost 120K award miles.

                If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 5,2013 8:50 pm || Up

      Pfft, sucker. You can drive to Dublin.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • dmoas Feb 5,2013 8:54 pm || Up

        In that traffic? Fk that.

        • ozzman99 Feb 5,2013 9:07 pm || Up

          Leaving unanswered the question of why you would wish to go to Dublin in the first place.

          • dmoas Feb 5,2013 9:18 pm || Up

            (I was trying to be polite)

          • MikeV Feb 6,2013 7:21 am || Up

            Cause it’s on the way to me!

            And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

            Thanks, and go As.

          • nevermoor Feb 6,2013 9:49 am || Up

            I used to go there all the time, to visit the jail.

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
            • dmoas Feb 6,2013 9:51 am || Up

              And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how he met your mother.

            • Future Ed Feb 6,2013 2:20 pm || Up

              the federal one?

              Did they ever give you a room? I always ended up interviewing people in the day room/

              I have $5. No I don\'t.
              • nevermoor Feb 6,2013 2:30 pm || Up

                County (Santa Rita).

                They have rooms in each housing wing, which may well be what you mean by a day room.

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • Future Ed Feb 6,2013 3:46 pm || Up

                  yeah, santa rita, the hallways are long there.

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
            • ozzman99 Feb 6,2013 2:32 pm || Up

              Were you allowed to pass go and collect your $200?

      • ptbnl Feb 5,2013 9:29 pm || Up

        Not via Frankfurt you can’t.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
        • andeux Feb 5,2013 9:34 pm || Up

          Sure you can, though Kentucky seems a bit out of the way.

          TINSTAAFK
          • ptbnl Feb 5,2013 9:36 pm || Up

            Especially when the next stop is Birmingham.

            If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
            • elcroata Feb 5,2013 10:54 pm || Up

              When you cross Arkansas, you can stop in Stuttgart to say hi

              Because survival is insufficient
              • ptbnl Feb 5,2013 11:04 pm || Up

                So my question from all this is why would you name the place you settled after your old home town, since that’s the one thing to guarantee ambiguity in your everyday geographical references?

                New England is especially bonkers. In 1800 “Off to Manchester” could mean a day trip or a three month voyage.

                If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
                • andeux Feb 5,2013 11:13 pm || Up

                  It was probably clear in context.

                  TINSTAAFK
                • ptbnl Feb 5,2013 11:48 pm || Up

                  In some contexts, but surely plenty that weren’t too – as evidenced by the disproportionately American habit-born-of-necessity of adding state or nation qualifiers to towns’ and cities’ names.

                  If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
                • Dial C for Concupiscence Feb 6,2013 9:31 am || Up

                  If we didn’t do that, people would think I was taking a trip to Manhattan, New York, instead of Manhattan, Montana. We couldn’t have that now could we.

                • ptbnl Feb 6,2013 9:33 am || Up

                  And I thought you were off to Kansas.

                  If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
                • dmoas Feb 6,2013 9:36 am || Up

                  I thought he was referring to Nevada.

                • ptbnl Feb 6,2013 9:52 am || Up

                  Cocktail hour.

                  If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
                • Dial C for Concupiscence Feb 6,2013 11:10 am || Up

                  Through this line of exploration, I’ve now learned that “Micropolitan” is apparently a word.

        • brian.only Feb 5,2013 10:54 pm || Up

          Frankfurt is the weirdest city, or maybe the city in Germany that doesn’t look like your in Germany.

      • Englishmajor Feb 6,2013 5:18 pm || Up

        Take BART (boop boop) if you want to be on time.

  78. JamesV Feb 6,2013 11:07 am

    So basically “Mt. Davis” should never have been built in the first place:

    http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/paul-gutierrez/raiders-block-top-mt-davis?awid=7540827421300277577-765

    • beebo Feb 6,2013 11:10 am || Up

      Until reading that link, I was kind of wondering what this was all about:

    • DFA Feb 6,2013 1:48 pm || Up

      Can We Just Blow It Up Now?

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
      • doctorK Feb 6,2013 1:50 pm || Up

        Close it off completely and open the third deck.

        • dmoas Feb 6,2013 1:53 pm || Up

          Nah, tear down Mount Davis and the third & second decks. Just have the lower bowl and an open air concourse. Then you can bring back the outfield bleachers.

      • JamesV Feb 6,2013 2:00 pm || Up

        Frank Thomas could probably still help with that.

        • MikeV Feb 6,2013 2:05 pm || Up

          and Cespedes.

          And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

          Thanks, and go As.

          • JamesV Feb 6,2013 3:38 pm || Up

            I’m thinking back to the ad on the BART trains, but I couldn’t find any pics of it.

    • colin Feb 6,2013 2:05 pm || Up

    • nobody in particular Feb 6,2013 3:14 pm || Up

      It’s just an unbelievable joke, and the joke is on all of us. This whole corrupt pigfuckarama since 1992 is “Chinatown” with stadiums instead of water rights, Oakland instead of LA. I just picture Mark Davis laughing like the Joker (OK, second Jack Nicholson reference in one paragraph, my bad) with the tens of millions he inherited from his dad fleecing the pants off of the idiot City of Oakland to build that monument to deception and greed in the first place. I bet he’ll move the Raiders outta Oakland at the first inkling he can get some poor taxpayers somewhere to foot the bill for a new rich pig’s palace somewhere else and leave the fans — really just willing, Stockholm Syndrome dupes at this point — shitting themselves with rage and agony whilst he cavorts with the largesse he’ll have looted.

      I want to break shit right now, just the thought that these cocksuckers ruined our venue in this way and now the concrete monstrosity is going to just stand there idle and disused… OMG someone pack me a bowl the size of the island of Jamaica before I go looking for these people.

      Never suck on a Blow Pop with the microphone open.
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Feb 6,2013 4:01 pm || Up

        The seats on top of Mt. Davis are essentially irrelevant to the reasons it was built. It’s about the suites. Certainly it’s OK for A’s fans to hate it, but the Raiders tarping it doesn’t change that equation at all.

        Also, Mark Davis didn’t inherit many millions at all from Al, certainly not tens of millions. And the family and team have lost momney since moving to Oakland. Ironically, the only party to the relocation deal who made out well, financially speaking, is the A’s.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • dmoas Feb 6,2013 4:04 pm || Up

          Pretty much this. Though I’d rephrase that last one to “the only party to make money was the A’s.” Hard to say how much they may have lost as a result of Mt. Davis.

        • Englishmajor Feb 6,2013 5:21 pm || Up

          I’ve sat in those seats on Mt Davis for football. They suck. Since the season ticket holder prices are dropping everywhere, I’m tempted…this would make me a three-sport STH since I have a partial Quakes plan.

  79. ozzman99 Feb 6,2013 2:41 pm

    On yahoo.com, “strippers” is trending. It was #2 earlier, but it’s slipped now to #6.

  80. ptbnl Feb 6,2013 2:47 pm

    2^257,885,161 – 1 FTW

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • nevermoor Feb 6,2013 3:02 pm || Up

      I guess I’d better rewrite all my crypto-algorithms.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • ptbnl Feb 6,2013 3:12 pm || Up

        And move to 32-Mbyte integers.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  81. JamesV Feb 6,2013 5:45 pm
    • ozzman99 Feb 6,2013 5:55 pm || Up

      I was reading this, thinking it sounded awfully familiar. Then I saw the date.

      • JamesV Feb 6,2013 6:43 pm || Up

        Yeah, I hadn’t seen it before but it was linked from elsewhere. Makes me wonder what else has happened since then. It’s all absolutely disgusting.

        • ozzman99 Feb 6,2013 6:48 pm || Up

          I wonder too. There’s been very little construction since 2009, so I can only imagine what has happened to all those workers.

          • JamesV Feb 6,2013 6:54 pm || Up

            Nothing good, I suspect.

            • ozzman99 Feb 6,2013 6:57 pm || Up

              The really horrible part is that they have a low-cost carrier based out of UAE. My sister flies from Sharjah to India all the time, I think the tickets usually come out to less than $100 round-trip.

    • ozzman99 Feb 6,2013 6:26 pm || Up

      “The people who do the real work are paid next to nothing, while these incompetent managers pay themselves £40,000 a month.”

      Remind you of any other countries?

      • ozzman99 Feb 6,2013 6:46 pm || Up

        Another thing they didn’t mention: a few years back, human rights groups complained about laborers having to work in the heat. So Dubai passed a law banning outdoor work if the temperature exceeds 40C (104F). So now, guess what? The temperature in Dubai almost never officially exceeds 40C. It’s brutal. Drinking water on job sites is brought in trucks that are also used for transporting oil.

        Another problem for Emiratis is that in their rush to embrace all things western, they eat incredible amounts of fast food. Obesity and it’s accompanying health problems are rampant and getting worse.

        Abu Dhabi is really the only Emirate with any money at all, so they bankroll the other 6. Originally Qatar and I think one other city planned on joining the UAE, but changed their minds.

        Oh, and the author never mentioned why the British conquered the region: the other big industry in the area besides pearl diving was piracy. The British wanted to put a stop to that.

    • brian.only Feb 6,2013 7:33 pm || Up

      And people bash unions but this is pretty close to what things were like, long days/ weeks, indentured servitude, child labor, sweatshops…

    • JamesV Feb 7,2013 11:37 am || Up

      This has to do with the author. What do you make of it?

      I don’t doubt that there have been major problems in Dubai, but this makes me wonder how accurate the story was.

      http://www.economist.com/blogs/bagehot/2011/09/unethical-journalism

      • JamesV Feb 7,2013 11:41 am || Up

        This guy isn’t the only person to have cited issues in Dubai with human rights.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubai#Human_rights

        • ozzman99 Feb 7,2013 2:08 pm || Up

          The ethical issues with the author I didn’t know about. I get the impression that he’s trying to make the words true to the spirit of what his interviewees were trying to express, as he interpreted it. That doesn’t make it right, of course. And it calls into question some of what he wrote. Not that the injustices exist. But I certainly wondered about some of the quotes from the expats and tourists.

          There have been human rights issues in Dubai for a long time, but I’d say their government has done quite a job keeping it mostly out of the mainstream press. Plus, as long as foreigners westerners were making money and having fun, no one really cared.

          • JamesV Feb 7,2013 3:01 pm || Up

            Yeah. The bottom line is that there have been major problems there.

          • ptbnl Feb 7,2013 3:04 pm || Up

            Fixed. Plenty of foreigners there making very little money and having very little fun.

            If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
            • ozzman99 Feb 7,2013 5:59 pm || Up

              I hope that more people become aware of the problem. And I believe similar problems exist in Kuwait and Qatar.

              • PDXAthleticsfan Feb 7,2013 9:44 pm || Up

                A couple of our friends moved to Qatar this fall for two years – they’re coming home briefly this summer – interested to here their take, although they are clearly in the “making money and having fun” camp.

                A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
                • ozzman99 Feb 7,2013 10:28 pm || Up

                  I’d be interested too.

                • PDXAthleticsfan Feb 8,2013 8:07 am || Up

                  We get some updates on what they are doing through FB and blog posts, but all of those are definitely of the “what fun stuff we are doing” variety. They are both very thoughtful people, though, so to the extent any of the issues are visible, I’m sure they’ll take note. It’s also interesting to see if they’ve come across any issues being Jewish in a very Muslim world.

                  A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.

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