Yoo-NYY Watch: DLD 081909 ← FREE KRAUT!

Yoo-NYY Watch: DLD 081909 97

  1. They’re not BOOing, they’re chanting
  2. Ugh, Jesus, the NYT’s sportswriting, while technically accomplished, sucks: Monday night’s Yankee loss was apparently all about the A’s continually just barely getting lucky, while last night’s return to the normative order was foreordained:

    An outburst was coming

    Also: Tyler Kepner thinks A-Rod’s a pussy:

    It was the second time in a week that Rodriguez had been hit in that spot, and he screamed in pain as he shook it off.

  3. As, apparently, does Bill James (to be fair, he thinks everyone younger than him is a pussy … but that’s not necessarily a good thing):

    I don’t think it is a myth that ballplayers — or PEOPLE — were tougher in the old days. I think they WERE tougher. They were tougher because they believed in toughness, in ways that are almost unimaginable today. We were all disciplined, as children of the 1950s, in ways that went well, well, well beyond the limits of what would today be legal. We were taught that you don’t complain about things; you just carry on. People WERE tougher. I’m not saying it was a good thing, and, lest that be an ambiguous remark, it WASN’T a good thing.

    If you go back 100 years, men got into fistfights as a regular part of being a man. People weren’t condemned for this, or asked to apologize for it.

    (Also: beanballs–surprising [or not] data there.)

  4. Kurt Suzuki, however, is tough
  5. Player Opinion I:

    “The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer.”

  6. Player Opinion II:

    “Baseball is a game of regression to the mean”

  7. Lawyer Opinion I
  8. Lawyer Opinion II
  9. Oh, crap. Do I need to go back to my defensive-stat agnosticism?

97 thoughts on “Yoo-NYY Watch: DLD 081909

  1. monkeyball Aug 19,2009 9:56 am

    I love Barney Frank:

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    • batgirl Aug 19,2009 9:59 am || Up

      That’s awesome.

    • nevermoor Aug 19,2009 11:17 am || Up

      The dining room table quote is the real winner.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • JediLeroy Aug 20,2009 3:36 am || Up

      Crazy communists.

      az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
      • monkeyball Aug 20,2009 9:35 am || Up

        Larouchies are their own particular breed of crazy and evil.

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  2. monkeyball Aug 19,2009 9:57 am
    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  3. batgirl Aug 19,2009 10:00 am

    Does anyone know why Cust was commenting on the Mitchell Report yesterday? Did a NY reporter ask him about it, or is he just so fed up with slumping that he decided to blow off a little steam?

    • monkeyball Aug 19,2009 10:03 am || Up

      Gotta be the bear-baiting scenario you proposed. NYY + traveling media circus in town = aggro big-city reporters poking around for hot nut grafs.

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  4. andeux Aug 19,2009 10:04 am

    Only Atheists Wear Batting Helmets

    Because the immaterial mind is distinct from the material brain, an injury to the brain is not necessarily an injury to the mind. So getting hit in the brain with a fastball need not do any mind damage, regardless of how much brain damage it does. It follows that getting hit in the brain won’t interfere with a player’s intangible qualities. And it’s the intangible qualities that are the important ones, and no helmet can protect them anyway, what with them being immaterial and all.
    …safer batting helmets can only interfere with the Darwinian unnatural selection against players who only have tangibles, and no intangibles, and that would only pave the way for a future of purely material baseball playing robots. Or maybe zombies, even. So Major League Baseball should not use these new helmets and they should even ban helmets entirely, as they honor the tangible and demean the intangible.

    And an attack by zombies, as we now know, would be catastrophic.

    TINSTAAFK
    • monkeyball Aug 19,2009 10:16 am || Up

      It’s a pity he won’t live — but then again, who does?

      We wouldn’t want baseball-playing robots to play baseball, because they couldn’t possibly compute the importance of intangibles, or have any intangibles

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    • lenscrafters Aug 19,2009 3:31 pm || Up

      Please tell me that article is some sort of joke or parody.

  5. andeux Aug 19,2009 10:09 am

    Freakonomics has (or maybe is) a stupid

    The problem could readily be solved by pricing the water sufficiently high to ensure that we get through the drought with water to spare. Indeed, that’s what a free market would do. Unfortunately, Austin hasn’t seen fit to mimic free-market pricing of this increasingly scarce resource.

    TINSTAAFK
    • nevermoor Aug 19,2009 10:10 am || Up

      Wow. I, for one, would love to die of thirst in the service of free markets.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • andeux Aug 19,2009 10:13 am || Up

        Clearly that would be the most efficient thing for you to do.

        TINSTAAFK
      • dmoas Aug 19,2009 10:20 pm || Up

        You die so that the market can right itself. With less demand (i.e you dead), the price goes down for everyone else. Think of the children!

    • monkeyball Aug 19,2009 10:27 am || Up

      There’s about 16 different levels of stupid in that — most of them having to do with violations of what I presume to be his own internal logic/ethical system.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  6. nevermoor Aug 19,2009 10:09 am

    3: I think he’s right. If someone insults me now, I’m not obligated to try to kill him. This is a feature, not a bug.

    5: hilarious
    6: I’ve been sold on him for awhile

    7: part 2 is a terrible idea. Part 1, maybe less so if the league then poured money into talent development. This might be my inner liberal coming out, but I have to imagine that a number of MLB-funded academies would be better than individual team ones.

    8: This is a really dumb point.

    This is not a slam at either Abreu or VORP. This is merely my way of saying that my eyes can lie, but so can the numbers.

    Completely misses the argument. Of COURSE numbers can “lie” if we define “lie” as “not measure true talent.” What they can’t do, and eyes can’t NOT do, is be biased.

    nor is there a ruling authority pressuring that law firm to stay within certain financial parameters.

    Not entirely true. There is no agency (that would be an antitrust violation), but there is also little-to-no competition on salary.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • monkeyball Aug 19,2009 10:22 am || Up

      7. I’m with Calcaterra — the entire column is full of terrible ideas, all under the aegis of protecting ownership.

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      • nevermoor Aug 19,2009 10:34 am || Up

        Certainly a move to internationalize the draft without any other changes would be bad. I’m simply saying that there is room for changes which would make the thing a net positive (not that anyone with power has proposed them)

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • monkeyball Aug 19,2009 10:52 am || Up

          True, true.

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  7. monkeyball Aug 19,2009 10:15 am
    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
  8. monkeyball Aug 19,2009 10:18 am

    More pithiness with which I fundamentally agree. Outside of certain business applications, I think the insurance industry is a non-value-add legalized (and, in many instances, mandated) Ponzi scheme.

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    • andeux Aug 19,2009 10:36 am || Up

      I don’t see how the (oft misused) phrase “Ponzi scheme” applies at all, nor do I agree about insurance being useless. Fundamentally insurance is about managing and distributing risk, and that can be quite valuable. But I do agree that in the present system the insurance companies seem to take way more profit than is justified for providing that risk management, and also that mandating insurance without providing a cheap public option would constitute a further giveaway to them.

      TINSTAAFK
      • mikeA Aug 19,2009 11:39 am || Up

        most of “health insurance” isn’t really insurance at all, except for a bit of catastrophic insurance which they try to avoid paying out.

        That part is correct, I think. Non-catastrophic insurance is very often not even insurance, and the huge role of insurance companies in non-catastrophic health care is a purely wasteful consequence of the tax code. As for catastrophic coverage, they try not to pay for people they cover and hospitals semi-“insure” certain emergency conditions (without receiving premiums) anyway, so I think it’s reasonable to say they don’t play a useful role in health as constituted relative either to single payer system or to a private model without employer tax subsidies.

        • nevermoor Aug 19,2009 11:52 am || Up

          or to a private model without employer tax subsidies

          This only works if you somehow take away the incentive to deny individual claims. Employer grouping is one way to do that (my health insurance, say, is not going to generally deny claims because my firm would switch carriers), well-enforced regulations are another way (and part of this reform effort). Without either of those, however, you’ve just taken away all the insured’s leverage for no reason.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • monkeyball Aug 19,2009 12:08 pm || Up

            my health insurance, say, is not going to generally deny claims because my firm would switch carriers

            Really? I’m willing to be convinced of that, but I’m doubtful. Most HR people I talk to say competition is mostly on price — and there’s precious little real competition. On bog-standard cheap claims (annual visit, eye exam, vaccination, etc), no, there’s no pushback (albeit plenty of paperwork and interference intended to delay payment as long as possible) — it’s the big-ticket items where they really throw up the barricades.

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            • nevermoor Aug 19,2009 12:34 pm || Up

              It’s privately purchased, not employer-based, health care where they deny big-ticket claims. There’s also a lot of regulation on employer-based (i.e. it actually covers pregnancy costs)

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
              • monkeyball Aug 19,2009 7:38 pm || Up

                Um, no.

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                • nevermoor Aug 19,2009 9:51 pm || Up

                  Citing? (here’s mine)

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • mikeA Aug 19,2009 12:10 pm || Up

            It wouldn’t solve that problem, and I’m not really suggesting it. It seems generally agreed that there are two problems which are uninsured/insured but will have claims denied people, and “spiraling costs.” My point is that “ordinary” care (or dental care) is not really something that should be an insurance product, and it leads to overcomsumption/high costs.

            • nevermoor Aug 19,2009 12:36 pm || Up

              I disagree. I think more people should be doing the preventative things (primary care visits, screenings, etc.) that I think of when I hear “overconsumption.” I agree that incentives are such that doctors oversubscribe (a different problem), but that has nothing to do with where insurance stops and everything to do with how doctors make money.

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
              • monkeyball Aug 19,2009 7:39 pm || Up

                Agree entirely.

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          • mikeA Aug 19,2009 12:13 pm || Up

            my health insurance, say, is not going to generally deny claims because my firm would switch carriers)

            Maybe, but maybe not. Presumably many employers are happy with cheaper insurance that is more likely to be denied, especially given that price is likely to be more salient at the time these decisions are made.

    • nevermoor Aug 19,2009 10:37 am || Up

      There really is no reason for them to exist.

      This is true only if you assume they are purely bad faith actors, which is to say it’s fun to say, easy to believe, and clearly wrong. There needs to be health insurance, which means there need to be health insurers. The ones we have may suck, and it may be better to put the government in that role, but the government too would “skim off the top.”

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • monkeyball Aug 19,2009 10:49 am || Up

        clearly wrong

        I think there’s a lot more evidence on my side than yours.

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        • nevermoor Aug 19,2009 11:02 am || Up

          What possible evidence could you have that a world with no health insurance is better than the USA (with all it’s problems)?

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  9. monkeyball Aug 19,2009 10:28 am
    you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
    • salb918 Aug 19,2009 10:34 am || Up

      Useless without, uh, photographs.

    • andeux Aug 19,2009 10:38 am || Up

      That seems like fair compensation for the risk he took that the sandwich would punch him out.

      TINSTAAFK
      • salb918 Aug 19,2009 10:43 am || Up

        I can’t think of Sean Penn without thinking of No Myth. (bonus at the link: early 90’s Arsenio Hall)

    • Leopold Bloom Aug 19,2009 10:19 pm || Up

      I’m now convinced that you are posting outrageous CL ads in order to showcase them here.

  10. monkeyball Aug 19,2009 10:31 am

    I wonder — had he fully prepared the cops by instructing them to use Tasers if the subject was unresponsive to entreaties?

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    • nevermoor Aug 19,2009 10:40 am || Up

      You have no taser cred until you answer my question about the old lady incident.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • monkeyball Aug 19,2009 10:48 am || Up

        He should have just asked her to marry him.

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        • nevermoor Aug 19,2009 11:03 am || Up

          I know, deflect difficult question with snark. Reject all attempted solutions as evil. Stand on high and criticize.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  11. salb918 Aug 19,2009 10:39 am

    What do you suppose Adam Piatt is doing right now? I think he’s probably having a mid-morning snack.

  12. monkeyball Aug 19,2009 10:48 am

    As a friend emails: “What. The. Fuck.”

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    • JediLeroy Aug 19,2009 3:33 pm || Up

      I’ve read various comments that expect great things from that movie. I’m perplexed–that’s one of the most laughably bad trailers I’ve ever seen.

      az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
      • monkeyball Aug 19,2009 7:40 pm || Up

        That, along with the BSD LIEUTENANT remake … Herzog is always one to make perverse choices.

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  13. nevermoor Aug 19,2009 10:52 am

    Neyer struggles with stupid.

    I do still care, though. I care because, generally speaking, I prefer a world around me that makes sense, and it makes sense to me when the most valuable player in the league wins the Most Valuable Player Award.

    I think this is why I always seem to end up back at ** shouting at certain bloggers.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • monkeyball Aug 19,2009 11:03 am || Up

      Awards, ASG, PotW — I don’t care.

      you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
      • nevermoor Aug 19,2009 11:05 am || Up

        Which, I suppose, is why you can refrain from all non-TWSS ** commenting.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • monkeyball Aug 19,2009 11:09 am || Up

          Yep.

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        • salb918 Aug 19,2009 11:10 am || Up

          I don’t even bring the snark anymore.

          • monkeyball Aug 19,2009 11:20 am || Up

            Nor do you reject all attempted solutions as evil or stand on high and criticize.

            you better hope to God you don't show up in this little community, because you'll wish you had never come
            • salb918 Aug 19,2009 11:30 am || Up

              At least I appreciate a good “big smartypants-looking-down-on-menial-shitty-laborers” snark when I see it.

          • nevermoor Aug 19,2009 11:34 am || Up

            But snarking is so much fun…

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  14. FreeSeatUpgrade Aug 19,2009 11:28 am

    I’ve got Yoo under my skin. In bamboo shoot form.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • nevermoor Aug 19,2009 11:33 am || Up
      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  15. salb918 Aug 19,2009 11:43 am

    I’m not nearly as politically inclined as many (most?) of you, but a friend passes this along: The Uninsured

    • nevermoor Aug 19,2009 11:58 am || Up

      I’d be very interested in a factcheck of that article, since I bet some of it is true. Things that bother me:

      A second study, by Mark Pauly of the University of Pennsylvania and Kate Bundorf of Stanford, concluded that nearly three-quarters of the uninsured could afford coverage but chose not to purchase it.

      I wonder how they controlled for pre-existing conditions, cost of living, specific coverage needs (i.e. pregnancy), and other similar problems. My guess is they didn’t. Either way, the analysis ignores the fact that individual health plans are useless.

      And most of the uninsured are young and in good health. According to the CBO, roughly 60 percent are under the age of 35, and fully 86 percent report that they are in good or excellent health.

      Unsurprising (all the old people are in medicare).

      creating more competition by allowing people to purchase insurance across state lines

      This is a bad-faith argument. The way to create more competition is through a public option. This would merely allow one state to remove all regulations, have all health insurance move to that state, and let the insurance companies get richer.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • monkeyball Aug 19,2009 12:12 pm || Up

        re: that last one — a-freakin’-men. The insurance industry wants Yglesias’ rule-free roads — so that they can swerve all over the place, running down pedestrians.

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        • green star oakland Aug 19,2009 2:15 pm || Up

          and denying the ensuing emergency room claims.

          If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
          • monkeyball Aug 19,2009 7:41 pm || Up

            and having already lobbied for tort reform beforehand so they can’t be held liable

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    • monkeyball Aug 19,2009 12:11 pm || Up

      Uh, when a search of the article for “deni*” and “pree*” and “pre-e” turns up no hits, I feel vindicated in my anti-Cato bias being confirmed.

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  16. mikeA Aug 19,2009 11:46 am

    Is it just me or is this really creepy? (I see this kid around and my brother has played him…)

    • salb918 Aug 19,2009 11:52 am || Up

      1. Creepy that his dad writes the blog from the son’s perspective.
      2. Non-zero probability that his father is pushing him.
      3. He looks a little bit like an 8-year-old salb918
      4. What possible reason is there to split the competition by gender?

      • mikeA Aug 19,2009 12:17 pm || Up

        4. Encourages female participation.

        • salb918 Aug 19,2009 12:28 pm || Up

          Okay, I’ll buy that.

          But from a pure competition standpoint, I can’t believe (without data) that young girls are inherently better or worse than young men.

          • mikeA Aug 19,2009 12:50 pm || Up

            Well, as things stand, no girls would ever win in any age grouping, mostly because far more boys than girls play at all (particularly in other countries.)

          • monkeyball Aug 19,2009 7:41 pm || Up

            TWSS

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        • salb918 Aug 19,2009 12:30 pm || Up

          To add on to what I said in my second paragraph: what if a girl asked to compete in the boy’s bracket? I can’t think of a good reason to say no.

          • mikeA Aug 19,2009 12:59 pm || Up

            There’s no issue with that. At the top levels, there’s one woman who is way better than the rest of the women and she plays in the “male” events. She was in the top 10 for many years. The rest of the top women currently are ~100-200th, and they play a mix of events.

    • nevermoor Aug 19,2009 11:59 am || Up

      I think all super-high-achieving kid activities (spelling bee, LLWS, etc) are creepy. I just don’t know what the solution is.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • monkeyball Aug 19,2009 12:14 pm || Up

        Here’s a solution: creating more competition by allowing people to purchase insurance super-high-achieving children across state lines

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        • nevermoor Aug 19,2009 12:37 pm || Up

          Nope, I still won’t give you $5

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • salb918 Aug 19,2009 12:27 pm || Up

        yes and no. I think that achievement is a good thing, and I think that children who show both aptitude and interest for a particular activity (like, say, cup-stacking) should be encouraged. It is incumbent on the parent to make sure the child engages in other activities too (like, say, homework), too. But in some of these high-achieving children, it is obvious that the kids aren’t having fun, or that the parent is pushing the child far more than is healthy, etc.

        • nevermoor Aug 19,2009 12:59 pm || Up

          I agree. Like everything else there’s a line-drawing problem that good parents will do well. It just sucks that kids have to specialize in one activity (be it piano, soccer, or whatever) so young if they’re good at it.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • salb918 Aug 19,2009 1:04 pm || Up

            I think even “good” parents can fuck up the line-drawing problem when it comes to their children’s activities.

            • nevermoor Aug 19,2009 1:29 pm || Up

              Sure. I do think it’s one of the tests of parenting though. Especially on egregious cases.

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • monkeyball Aug 19,2009 7:42 pm || Up

          That cup-stacking link wasn’t to what I’d hoped it would be.

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      • mikeA Aug 19,2009 12:29 pm || Up

        Sounds to me like you’re contributing to the “everyone gets an A” mentality.

        • salb918 Aug 19,2009 12:32 pm || Up

          If the Coli crowd is small enough, then why not?

          • dmoas Aug 19,2009 10:41 pm || Up

            Because no one would want Crosby and some people think it’s not nice to discard an A whether it’s useless or not.

        • nevermoor Aug 19,2009 1:02 pm || Up

          Far from it. I’m just sad that if your kid is (say) the best 12 year old baseball player in his school he ends up having to play baseball 10 months a year and take long road trips every weekend.

          There’s ta difference between “everyone gets an A” (not honestly evaluating people) and “everyone who gets an A must devote their pre-teen life to the activity” (generating one sided and burned out teenagers)

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • salb918 Aug 19,2009 9:01 pm || Up

        Now this is a creepy high-achieving kid.

        A SCHOOLBOY became the youngest person in the world to wing-walk yesterday – at the age of just eight.
        Tiger Brewer rode at 100 mph standing on the wing of his grandfather Vic Norman’s biplane 1,000 feet above Rendcomb airfield in Gloucestershire.

  17. salb918 Aug 19,2009 2:42 pm
  18. green star oakland Aug 19,2009 4:13 pm
    Slartibartfast’s juvenile sense of humour

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  19. monkeyball Aug 19,2009 7:48 pm

    I always forget how short Gaudin is.

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  20. JediLeroy Aug 20,2009 3:44 am

    Oh, man.

    az di bobe volt gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde
    • monkeyball Aug 20,2009 9:38 am || Up

      Obama’s Death Panel would wouldn’t would wouldn’t would wouldn’t would wouldn’t would make that mistake just bury his body in that big mass grave in Arizona.

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  21. nevermoor Aug 20,2009 11:53 am

    I wish I could read more stuff like this.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • andeux Aug 20,2009 11:59 am || Up

      As the first comment notes, he seems to be confusing government-provided health insurance with “a government takeover of health care.”

      TINSTAAFK
      • nevermoor Aug 20,2009 1:18 pm || Up

        Sure. It’s still an insightful look into why the generally conscientious Rs out there are encouraging the crazies.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"

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