Mmmmm, sounds delish!

Need a new load-bearing grill to handle the weight of these links:

1. More than 23 years since Loma Prieta…they could have built the new bridge in 2:17!

2. There will be an awesome comet fly-by in late 2013.

3. I wouldn’t have thought it would be lucrative enough to warrant smuggling garlic, but apparently it is.

4. Google Translate does English to Flanders.

5. Ted Kennedy’s son was addicted to booze coke and Oxy. He’s going to get his revenge…on pot smokers.

6.


The Guardian is launching a new food section next Saturday called Cock. I can hardly wait.
@matthewfort
Matthew Fort

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    3. When garlic is outlawed, only outlaws will have garlic.

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    Once they got it into Sweden, how do you sell 1.2 tons of illegal garlic without getting caught?

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    One plate of lutefisk at a time, I imagine.

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    Ahlstrand said the men avoided paying some €10 million ($13.1 million) in Swedish taxes
    Ahlstrand initially said they smuggled in 1.2 tons of garlic, but later said the exact amount was unclear.

    That would make taxes on garlic about $10 Million/ton, or $5000/pound. One of those numbers has to be off by at least three orders of magnitude.

    TINSTAAFK
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    We should send the Tea Party over there.

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    When I had a Kennedy for a congressperson (back in the Clinton “didn’t inhale” era), he was quoted as saying something like “As just about the only politician to admit not only to having smoked pot, but to having enjoyed it, I’m in favor of legalization.”

    TINSTAAFK
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    I, ah, miss him, ah.

    "Once you go Kay there is no other way."- Bed
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    If any one of the descendants was going to support Prohibition you’d think it’d be the one named Joseph P. Kennedy.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
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    Unthinkable

    I am only pretty on the outside.
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    people are only allowed to bring in “personal quantities” of cheese

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
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    They destroyed his cheese AND fined him $300. Some days, it just doesn’t pay to get out of bed.

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    Tagline?

    TINSTAAFK
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    Indeed.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
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    Doubled up with

    Large chunks of Parmigiano-Reggiano in your luggage

    hopefully.

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
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    I’d like to know the context for that one. It’s been haunting me for months.

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    The cheese has?!

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    The Havarti Haunt? The Pecorino Phantom? The Gorgonzola Gorgon? Frankenstein’s Munster? The Geitost Ghost?

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    well played

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
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    They stand alone.

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
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    Heh heh

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    Here

    If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
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    It is clear that they don’t understand that I would eat that in about two weeks. By myself. It is a miricale that Im not fat.

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
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    Sure is. I bring about 4 gallons of my olive oil in my luggage every time I enter Germany from Croatia. Having somebody destroy it is one of my worst nightmares

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    Is croatian olive oil especially good?

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
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    In general it’s very good, but the one I bring is made by my friend from the trees on the island where I used to live and it is exquisite – for some too strong, but that’s because they got used to the watery shit one buys in stores

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    so its more finishing olive oil rather than cooking oil?

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
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    I don’t use it for frying, among other things because I don’t have enough of it, but yes – it shows its fullest potential when used for finishing

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    sounds awesome.

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
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    This reminds me of a friend of my old roommate, who stopped in with us in Chicago midway through a cross-country drive. He had been living on his family’s Vermont maple farm but was driving out to the Bay Area. The van carried only essential supplies — gallons of maple syrup and a big jar of weed.

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    My question is — since when is 230 pounds of cheese NOT a personal quantity?

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    Guns don’t kill people, innumeracy does

    I’m way past the point of not linking to my own stuff. And Tutu, for all the nerves discussing with you sometimes costs me, I am thankful to anyone who inspires me to write.

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    Thank you for linking to your own stuff and sharing.

    "Once you go Kay there is no other way."- Bed
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    This.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
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    Thanks for reading it.

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    Double This!

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    and making it

    I am only pretty on the outside.
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    I enjoy your self-linking and would like to dip my bread in your olive oil.

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    When I finally make it to Oakland, I’ll try to smuggle some over the border. I mean otherwise, clearing the customs would be too easy

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    Customs asks El Croata if he can clear them.

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
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    I want him to come to oakland, not FSU

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
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    I think Oakland actually comes to him.

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
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    And they can get away with it because getting “educated” by learning to repeat ideological dogmas instead of being educated in a way that will teach critical thinking and using ones own brain, is en vogue. Which, by the way, is not a musical quartet from Oakland.

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    AV, have you seen this one?

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    Wow. Just wow.

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    Just watched this now. Holy crap.

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    Trying not to be pissed off about the A’s only selling Fan Fest tickets online and then hitting us with both a convenience fee and a handling fee. Failing.

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    And, I just realized I bought two more tickets than I needed because children six and under get in free. I didn’t need that $22 anyway…

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    sell them in the lot

    I am only pretty on the outside.
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    That is pretty damn miserly of them, especially given that for most other teams admission to their Fan Fests is completely free.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
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    That’s why I’m not going. FK ‘em for charging admission.

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    I was tempted to skip it, but I’m afraid if I don’t take my kids they’ll “wear a goddamn panda hat” in the immortal words of somebody.

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    Based on my perusing other teams’ fanfest pages, most other teams DO charge and a number of them pretty much around what the A’s do (while a decent-sized group with teams like the Giants and Diamondbacks have it free). Though having it free for Season Ticket holders is more common than not. Some of them charge more than the A’s — and some charge for both a ticket AND autograph vouchers. Though some include things like free opening day tickets with their Fanfest fee (see: RedsFest).

    After looking through different ones, I’m just glad we aren’t Nats fans.

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    What’s the situation with the Nationals?

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    Their fanfest doesn’t vary much from ours in terms of things offered, a few more kid-related activities (more in line with the early-2000s A’s Fanfests where they had things like a player having storytime, etc). Except their prices are $20 adult/$10 kid tickets, or $15/$5 for Season Ticket Holders. And autographs are $20, with who you get being randomly assigned and it being a hell of a lot more stringent.

    I saw a lot of “A’S FANS PAY FOR FANFEST?!” on twitter, and while it certainly is unfortunate compared to the Giants, it’s not odd in the MLB landscape and we don’t come close to having the most expensive tickets.

    I remember looking up individual team fanfest guidelines last year, and while I couldn’t find it this year, I know in the past there was at least one team where it was exclusively for ST holders.

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    But then what else will ownership haters bitch about?

    Oh, right, having it in the Arena instead of the Coliseum.

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser
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    And now it selling out is a bad thing because people can’t be lazy and just show up that day to get in.

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    As a hardcore owner-hater, I can’t even get on the rage wagon about this. There’s so many more glorious things to hate. I wish it were at the Coliseum, but I can appreciate the difficulties in scheduling with a multi-use facility like the Coliseum, and that there ARE some advantages to the Arena.

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    Yea this is probably why I won’t go.

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser
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    I’m going to go to the box office that day and buy my opening day tickets, and 2 for every Wednesday game, plus a few others, free of service charges. Also planning on stopping by the post-FanFest tailagte party! Woot!

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
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    Oh, did you have to pay fees? They didn’t have any for season ticket holders.

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    $4.25 for “processing” + $1 per ticket for “convenience”

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    That sucks.

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    Ewwww.

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    Yes they did. .50. My total was 5.50.

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    monkey bait

    DFA bait:

    In other closure news, Chez Papa Resto in San Francisco’s Mint Plaza is giving away foie gras all week as it prepares for its final night of service on Sunday.

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    Relevant to the monkey bait: this book was written by a guy who dj’d at whpk back when I was there as well.

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    Wow, I ate there just two weeks ago, had no idea they were closing. I found it very good but not great. Had a nice early dinner prior to attending The Book of Mormon.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
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    Yeah, it is/was on our “nice pre-AMC” rotation, but a bit too far to be a regular.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
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    Love the Foie but their other restaurant was mediocre so im goinng to pass.

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
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    I’ll just drop this in here:


    The bat just arrived in the mail. Thanks again for the contest, JD! @ #Athletics http://t.co/SDn6tGjV
    @jamesvenes
    James Venes

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    Cooooooooool

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    Yeah, he asked followers what his number was when he first came to the bigs and I was first to reply. I think I just barely got it ahead of MikeV (sorry, man!).

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    Neat. But hopefully that’s not the one that had all his hits in it.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
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    As long as James can pick it at 3rd, this won’t be a problem either.

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    I played 3B briefly a couple times when I was a freshman in high school. Played is used in the loosest way imaginable to still fit. It wasn’t pretty.

    On the other hand, I was a passable 1B.

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    You’re Brett Wallace?

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    I’m insulted.

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    To be Brett Wallace? So is Brett Wallace.

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    It was made in 2011, so who knows?

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    Looks like a different bat than the one in picture # 5 here, so I think we’re good.

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    404

    I am only pretty on the outside.
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    Hrmph. Better?

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    mmmm. I like it

    I am only pretty on the outside.
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    he was using Chris Carters when he came back and hit good

    I am only pretty on the outside.
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    So fking rad.

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    want

    I am only pretty on the outside.
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    I really want a Josh Donaldson bat that say “Better than you think”

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
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    You could put it in a case inscribed with the date upon which you were right on the internet.

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    the highest honor one can have.

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
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    I bet Toonces takes credit for that at the blog table at fanfest

    I am only pretty on the outside.
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    The funny thing is that he used to insert “better than you think” jokes in his posts in what I interpreted as shots at DFA.

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    fixed that for you.

    dude was an incredibly smug asshole. And I can handle a lot of smugness.

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
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    was?

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser
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    …wer? wo? wann? wieso?

    Five doubleUs of German journalism

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    If he does can someone let me know so I can shank him?

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
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    You should apply to be our blog designee.

    I’ll change the masthead to “Sending Chief Editor DFA to A’s Blogfest since 1968″

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
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    I would buy a ticket for that

    I am only pretty on the outside.
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    Except for the convenience fees.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
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    :shakesfist:

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser
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    It’s almost a shame I’m not expecting to do any more coverage of minor leagues or anything that might get me access from a blogging angle.

    It just means less of a chance of me ever getting to tell Nico to go fuck himself in person.

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    It’s so nice to meet someone who can see the big picture.

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    I would happily take that crown.

    And i would rip Toonces from head to fucking toe.

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
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    So apply and let me know…

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
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    ok.

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
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    shoot me an email when you do so I can tweak the banner.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
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    Do we REALLY want a FK representative at the blog press conference?

    Could there be possible consequences for “outing ourselves”?

    "Once you go Kay there is no other way."- Bed
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    What kinds of consequences? It’s not like FK has anyone affiliated with the team writing here, FK hasn’t got any benefits I’m aware of, access, etc.

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    The only thing I can think of would be somehow having trolls show up, and I think between the first comment approval and having to put up with us we are fairly safe there..

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
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    not having rules is effective troll spray

    I am only pretty on the outside.
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    Hmm, maybe. A committed troll would try to make that the issue…posting offensive stuff, picking fights, then soapboxing about how any effort to stop him (it’s always a him) proves what hypocrites we all are.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
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    They’d have to actually find this place first, I think.

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    I am assuming, if on a panel, the URL will be displayed and promoted by the team

    I am only pretty on the outside.
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    We could always move to freekraut.gov or freekraut.hr just to play it safe.

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    freekraut.xxx, obv

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser
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    But seeing how we throw blows when our dander is up I could see the troll being trolled to the point that he would just back away slowly..

    Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
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    I’m not super worried about it. But I’m also not going to apply myself.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
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    this.

    I will personally flame the fuck out of anyone.

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
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    Alright friends, maybe I’m taking this far too seriously, but…

    I’m seriously considering applying to attend the press conference for bloggers. My wife has given me the green light.

    Should I admit that I’m transgendered on the form, or try to semi-hide it? I wonder if I would be discriminated against if I mentioned it in the application.

    What questions would you folks want me to ask if I were to be accepted?

    "Once you go Kay there is no other way."- Bed
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    You totally should do it.

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
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    You should ask about inside sources and whether or not the leak shit to toonces.

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
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    Do they ask about gender on the form?

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    I just took a look at the BlogFest application form — it doesn’t appear to have anything about gender or anything like that on the form. Going out on a limb here, are you concerned about what name to put on the application? (I don’t know if you’ve legally changed your name or not)

    Personally, I don’t think you have anything to hide or “disclose” here. All you (or anyone else) can do is represent yourself as you are. And I’m pretty sure that us FKers will back you up if any blatantly discriminatory funny business goes on.

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    Application sent.

    I referenced myself truthfully as the “Author” of the blog, so Nevermoor doesn’t have to change a thing.

    I used my real name, tho, because I haven’t had it legally changed yet.

    "Once you go Kay there is no other way."- Bed
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    nice

    I am only pretty on the outside.
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    I think this is awesome!

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    agreed

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
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    WOOHOO!

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    Let us know how it went

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    One career WAR seems a little premature to be doing a victory dance. Though admittedly that’s already better than I thought.

    TINSTAAFK
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    Nice.

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    Just so you know:


    @ @ that’s a sweet possession .. Very nice
    @925plumbing
    brandon simpson


    @ @ I know a longtime backer of JD who says the only thing better would be the auto saying “better than you think”
    @jamesvenes
    James Venes

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    OMG please make this happen!

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
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    do you have that archived? I bet he would read it if you sent it to hi

    I am only pretty on the outside.
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    http://www.athleticsnation.com/2009/10/5/1071101/josh-donaldson-is-better-than-you

    post is still live if you want to show it to him.

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
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    Some tasty meta in the comments there. Along with Monkeyball quoting Pixies lyrics for no reason I can ascertain.

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    It’s fun reading now, especially the Desme anticipation.

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    He was in random troll ** mode.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
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    I did link him to it, so who knows?

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    I’m enjoying the comments.

    groverfail:

    Suzuki is young, cheap and good

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
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    He was good/ decent until we signed him to a contract, promptly turned mediocre for a spell and then kinda sucked, then went back to being good/ decent in Washington, Frustrating as hell….

    Its crazy how Donaldson is pretty much the only person left on the team in that thread.

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    Heh, closest comps (bRef) for Kurk-

    Age 26, 27: Ray ‘Dibs’ Fosse
    Age 28: Ramon Hernandez

    What are the fking odds!

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    I said at the time that that contract was a disaster… Danny and grover went ape on me.

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
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    Only tangentially related, but grover and I got into it when he made a fanpost on how BB didn’t get enough for Haren.

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    What did you base that on?

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    that the vesting option made him untradable for anything of value.

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
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    To be fair, if I were forced to pick a “sabr concept we’re sure of today but will look silly in 10 years”…

    My first two guesses would be:

    1. Defensive stats (which is fair, we don’t have great raw data yet)
    2. Positional adjustments

    by nevermoor on Oct 7, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up

    and to be fair
    if I was going to pick an area sabr knows the least about it would be catching defense.

    by designatedforassignment on Oct 7, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up

    Good call

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    I felt pretty good reading that.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
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    yeah and then this crazy croat fixed all that.

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
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    While you were probably right that he is better than what people thought, he is still worse than what you thought, right? I mean, kudos on calling it, great assumptions on defensive end, but I think you were too optimistic on the offensive end

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    Also, having read the comments, grover hjad a bad day, huh? And who is elston gunn? is he here? I don’t remember him/her from AN and it had some nice argumentation.

    I agree with your argumentation DFA, that prospects should be evaluated in vacuum.

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    You think grover had a bad day?

    I think the days of “He plays position X” are waning and the Figgins (or in theory Patterson) player is on the rise.

    D’oh!

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    hard to separate out good days on that one, though

    I am only pretty on the outside.
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    I didn’t regress the walk rate enough. That was a fail on my part.

    This offseason I still would have signed Youkulis and put Donaldson behind the plate.

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
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    I’m suer there is a study out there somewhere on how offensive production translates from minors to majors. Something like MLE, but not as a snapshot, but rather as a projection. If not it’s worth doing, but I’m not sure if one can get raw MiLB data

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    My comments in that thread are irritatingly polite.

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    yes. also you corrected my physics analogy… so kudos.

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
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    2 + 2 = Genius.

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    First Mr. Teeth dies and now one of the Brown Twins? Who’s next??!!

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    Assif Mayar, 32, got the alligator in 1996 “to commemorate the death of rapper Tupac Shakur,” said Alameda County sheriff’s Sgt. J.D. Nelson.

    Good a reason as any.

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    The part I wonder about is this: The guy successfully kept the caiman alive for more than 16 years. Presumably for at least some of that time he wasn’t just feeding it rats and keeping it in unheated cramped quarters, because otherwise it would have died much earlier. Not making excuses for the dirtbag, but it does make me wonder what changed to bring the poor beast to the brink of death before animal control stepped in.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
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    And he was 16 when he got it. That’s a pretty impressive display of responsibility.

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    Union Square will never be the same…

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    The picture of the one sister by herself is heart-breaking.

    It isn't Dirty Dancing 'cuz it doesn't make you vomit.
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    I’m trying to figure out why SBN (warning: SBN) is just now running this detailed, behind-the-scenes look at an unremarkable broadcast that happened more than two years ago.

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    In a reversal, the graphic design of the piece is strong tho.

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    Sort of. I like the big, bold photos, but it’s not very reader-friendly.

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    I have no real problem with SBN.

    AN on the other hand…

    I am only pretty on the outside.
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    The “Gun Appreciation Day” folks might want to think this talking point through a bit more.

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    Of course he’s wrong, but he’s even more wrong. If Africans had guns back in the 17th and 18th centuries, it just means that those with the most guns would’ve been successful in selling those with fewer (or none) into slavery. In fact, a well-armed tribal group would’ve been able to capture more unfortunates and sell them to the slavers, resulting in even more slaves.

    Also, the idea that MLK would’ve been on board with the idea of arming people is laughable at best.

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    Yeah, re: MLK: it’s an incredible leap, and what was his demise exactly again?
    Just wowzers,,,,

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    There are so many layers of wrongness that it makes my head hurt.

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    Rest assured, if you ever need a gun to protect yourself from our government, you won’t need to shoot at the Death Star.

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    That was a brilliant response, wasn’t it?

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    Man, I loved it.

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    Nice – although the cost overruns on that

    powerful successor to the Hubble Space Telescope

    have driven the rest of astronomy to the brink.

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    Sometimes I despair for where we are as humans; other times I despair for where we’ve been.

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    A while back, a friend of mine at UCLA was trying to develop a virtual map of the areas outlined in the Los Angeles Green Books. I’m not sure what happened to the project, but the idea was to create something that could be used in conjunction with Hypercities.

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    cool

    I am only pretty on the outside.
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    I’ve always had mixed feelings about Banjo Man…there’s a weaselly salesman quality at times, and it’s definitely annoying when he plays in your section for more than a passing few seconds. On the other hand, he’s a hippie who parlayed his goofy wandering minstrel sports fan act and propeller-hat business into profitable career; I can’t hate on that too much.

    But it pains me greatly when A’s fans show up in horrible horrible red and yellow.

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    He’s probably been doing 49ers games as long as A’s games. It’s only recently that he started dressing up for the Giants as well.

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    It’s tough…I hate the Niners a whole lot, obviously, but too many A’s fans like them for me to write them all off as San Francisco cocksuckers.

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    It’s okay. I’m not a fan of Banjo Man overall.

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    This.

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    seconded

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    turded

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    It’s extra percussion if the turds you’re throwing at him hit the banjo skin in time with what he’s plucking :)

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    If that’s not avant-garde, I don’t know what is.

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    I think I only like him because he’s ‘our’ weirdo, seeing him in SF was tough…
    IIRC he was a Niners’ fan first.

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    yeah i remember seeing him at niners games when I was a kid

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    Hell, he was there when I was kid.

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    Yeah, the Giants thing is the bigger issue.

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    this

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    Definitely.

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    Next sunday. same place. need to keep the mojo alive.

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    Yepp

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    Those hot wings and that third pitcher of beer were the greatest things I have ever had.

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    That was a surprisingly large and delicious plate of wings. I believe it’s my turn for the first round this Sunday.

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    Yes, but that also means that its your turn to get all the cute girls phone numbers.

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    Married girl?

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    No thats who I made out with.

    I got the cute DIR girl who knows a friend of mine and the cute asian girl who also knows a friend of mine that apparently then subsequently got warned that Im a whore. Oh and also the married girl. It was a pretty good haul.

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    You made out with a married girl?

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    yeah. the second one that night grabbed my ass but didn’t want to make out… which I think is total bullshit.

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    Her husband was there also.

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    What’s DIR? I remember the other two.

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    Department of Industrial Relations.

    Super hot.

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    I recall nothing of her. When did that happen?

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    That might have been after you left. It was after I made out with the married girl.

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    So who does FSU root for in a duke NCS match up?

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    NC State, but it feels icky.

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    With mb gone am I the new token Duke fan? Anyone else?

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    I don’t hate Duke. That’s probably the best you’ll do.

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    The #Athletics agreed to terms with manager Bob Melvin on a two-year contract extension through the 2016 season, the club announced today.
    @Athletics
    Oakland Athletics

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    Love it, it’s nice to have a ‘players’ manager, I can’t help but think he had more than a little to do w/ their success this year.

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    He was a bad tactical manager and I don’t think that its a good thing at all.

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    They’re ALL bad tactical managers. All 30. There’s degrees, I imagine…it’d be interesting (and maybe impossible) to know which managers’ discretionary moves most closely correlated with win expectancy…but ultimately no team hires managers who make all their calls the way you (and your kind) would consider best. And it the amount it actually matters is likewise modest and maybe suspect.

    Given that, and stipulating that you don’t hire the guy who’s a tactical, um, moron, I say you hire the guy who’s best able to keep 40 men living and working together nearly non-stop for eight months. Melvin seems great at this to me. Let’s hope it’s a repeatable skill.

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    As the magicks progressed over the summer and fall, i noticed less and less of the tactical disagreements.

    i hope in the coming season, brand moss, for example is either a) as good as he was in 2012 or b) benched unlike conor Jackson

    I am only pretty on the outside.
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    Firm agreement, we all have our armchair opinions but we don’t get the in-game reports from the bullpen coach or see the daily workouts like he does.
    I also admire that he’s always standing at the ready, never slumped slovenly at the rail like Scioscia.

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    By “slovenly” I assume you mean the maternity smock that Scioscia rocks.

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    It is essentially that you don’t Bobby V it. But there was a reason why he was fired in AZ.

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    Because they really, really wanted to hire AJ Hinch?

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    Stanford man!

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    HIRE GEREN!

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    He was awful.

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    Wasn’t he actually pretty good at bullpen management (which is the most important player usage decision made during games)?

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    Sure, she says it was a GPS error, but we all know she was really irresistibly drawn to elcroata.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
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    I’m not up-to-date with border crossing protocols in the EU, but wouldn’t she need her passport?

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    Inside the EU, border crossings are just like crossing state lines in the US.

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    Ah, well that removes one obstacle to stupidity.

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    I can see it happen, but you would think you would notice after two hours

    I am only pretty on the outside.
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    They use that excuse all the time

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    Holy shit. George Clooney better keep his nose hair trimmed.

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    Eh, no one is going to shoot content for that.

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    Eventually they all will. In the mean time, some fancypants photographer with more money than brains will buy one to show his work at bridal shows, and then either wonder why no one wants to pay $25k for 4 hours of coverage, or sell packages at $1000 a pop and wonder why he’s shooting 50 weddings a year and not making any money.

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    I guess. The whole point is that unless you have space for an 85 inch TV, which I sure as hell don’t, that amount of pixels doesn’t matter. Its just like how most cameras haven’t increased their pixles by that much except in the super professional sphere. Further, regular TV won’t get up to that for years. They are already talking about two years to get to full 1080p not i, so TV is going to look like shit on that set.

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    Plenty of people have space for an 85 inch TV.

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    Well they don’t like in real dwellings in real cities so they aren’t real.

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    yup

    I am only pretty on the outside.
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    Not my fault you live in a shoebox.

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    Ill take a shoebox and culture over a ranch style cookie cutter with a giant tv twice every fking day of the week and thrice on Sundays.

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    yes, because there is no culture anywhere except for in the city

    You’re so fucking ignorant it’s amazing.

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    I don’t know what “culture” is, or “art” but punk rock needs suburbs. Some of its shitty, but some of it is fantastic.

    That is the only art I really care about.

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    British punk especially had its roots in the suburbs.

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    Really, so did American punk, in particular Detroit suburbs (I couldn’t find particular mentions of the suburbs in their songs, although the Stooges suburban theme of “nothing to do” is prevalent).

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    Many prominent Hip Hop acts ( one could argue took the torch of ‘new anger/ angst music’ ) hail from the burbs (at least the interesting ones) as well.

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    Im confused as to why you think of Ann Arbor as a suburb.

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    While it’s not a traditional suburb, in that it isn’t associated with any larger urban center, it’s not really an urban environment. It’s a big college town in the midwest, similar to Bloomington, Iowa City, and probably others. It’s similar enough to a suburban environment, although with greater access to cultural opportunities associated with the college.

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    I mean, 110k residents. Dublin/Pleasanton/Livermore is like 180k.

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    But Zingerman’s!

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    …is overrated. I’m not sure I don’t prefer Mill Valley Market, CalMart, Rainbow Market, or some of the other wonderful bay area stores that get lost because they aren’t the only show in a small town.

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    I live in Charleston. Other than Goat Sheep Cow, all we have is Whole Foods.

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    The presence of a large university DQs it from being a suburb in my book.

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    We don’t know what it was like in the late 60s/early 70s, though. Probably not quite like it is today.

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    Members went to london to record and for their first shows.

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    And your point is?

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    Its like LA… the ones with any sense leave.

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    I’m really trying the make some sense of this.

    First you seemed to be saying that The Members weren’t suburban because they gigged/recorded in London, which would be a spectacularly ridiculous argument.

    Now you seem to be saying that Camberley specifically or the suburbs generally are like LA because sensible people leave, which manages to trump even that in its speciousness.

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    The cursory search of the members history that i did not really being into punk at all said that the members formed in London even if the individuals came from the burbs. This may or may not be accurate because I litterally spent about forty seconds looking at a bio.

    The suburbs point is that while they may birth people that influence culture,, those people move to cities to do so.

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    You may be discounting suburban/exurban bands that influence culture locally, without moving to cities to influence the culture more broadly.

    I remember how buzzy Galt, CA was for a couple of years just because there were a couple of good local bands who threw parties and gave away ‘zines.

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    And is Galt still hoping with good bands and zines?

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    Missing the point that growing up in the ‘burbs during your formative years can have a lasting impact on your life outlook, which would be expressed in your music.

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    so would growing up in antartica… your point?

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    Can we all just agree that dfa is straight-up trolling here? He has perfectly valid reasons for liking where he lives (San Francisco is awesome), but different people have all sorts of different reasons to live where they do. That’s even before we get to the claim that culture is only found in cities plus the moving goalposts of exempting college towns.

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    A couple of points.

    1 You can live wherever the fk you want and if you like it thats fine by me as long as our society factors in the cost of your choice to the broader society.

    2 It is not moving the goalposts to exempt large college towns that are near a city as being called suburbs. There is a massive concentration of young people not exhibited in the suburbs. Further you wouldn’t think of a place like Norman OK or Lincoln NE as suburbs would you? Just because a college town is near a city doesn’t change that it is a college town.

    3 The examples brought forth all left the suburbs to either play their first gigs, meet their bandmates. If I moved to livermor found a bunch of people to go play with and then recorded an album, would you say I was in a San Francisco band?

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    I’m only going to argue 3.

    Obviously the members of The Members (and every other punk band) left the suburbs, but that’s where their roots – and the roots of punk – were. Just like the roots of reggae are in Jamaica even if you’re Icelandic.

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    @dfa

    Re point 1: obviously we’ve had discussions on FK about the public policy issue of suburbanization, but this hasn’t been one of them.

    Re point 3: what I’m saying is that for a lot of people, proximity to cool bands is not the factor driving their choice of where to live.

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    @colin pt 1 is basically a response to your implication that Im saying people shouldn’t live in the suburbs.

    Pt 3 Which is exactly my point, if you don’t care about going and seeing live music modern art eating at boundary pushing resturants, having a giant acquarium, or playing berlin style ping pong, you don’t live in SF and you have a bigger house than me. I care aobut those things rather than being able to afford the space to have an 85 inch tv, let a lone the space.

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    @ PTBNL and yet all of those bands left for cities.

    Thats like saying Tramatic experiences are neccisary for culture so don’t bag on tramatic experiences.

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    Suburbs generally have massive concentrations of young people. Particularly here, where SF is essentially all singles and elderly because the school situation is bad. Lots and lots of young couples with kids move out of the city, and stay there for their kids’ education which means lots of younguns (i.e. 28-40 year olds and 5-18 year olds).

    If you want to say that you mean, exclusively, people in their twenties then feel free to say so. But it is unclear why those are the people who count as culture.

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    @dfa
    There is no problem with you expressing your own preference for having good and convenient museums, restaurants, bars, concerts, etc. The problem is you telling MikeV that his own preferences are illegitimate.

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    Thats like saying Tramatic experiences are neccisary for culture so don’t bag on tramatic experiences.

    Rest assured I would never say that.

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    I didn’t tell him that. I told him that Id rather have a shoebox than a cultural abyss and a 85 inch tv. If people bother to actually read what I have written.

    @PTBNL you are saying that the angst alienation and attempts to enforce conformity in the suburbs are key to punk and therefore the suburbs drive culture, its the same thing.

    @nm Disposable income and being tastemakers. There is a reason why advertisers crave 18 to 34 yos

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    NM, can we have a “whoosh” button to simplify responding to dfa please?

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    how is it not the same thing?

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    ON point 3.

    Yes you would be considered a san francisco band.

    WHen you tour you say SF for shorthand. Nobody in Tucson will know where livermore is.

    WHy don’t you ask Green day, the muffs, social distortion where they are from. They will give you the closest big city.

    Just like anyone.

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    thats not what I meant

    I more meant who should have the credit for me.

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    If we are still talking about punk rock, disposable income is not a good argument for you

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    Im not talking about punk, but broadly, on why young people in their twenties with no kids shape culture.

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    Sometimes they shape it, but often they recycle it ad infinitum, thinking it’s all fresh and new when it’s only fresh and new to them.

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    Kay nothing is ever truly new.

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    I just like the city because when I’ve got worries, all the noise and the hurry seems to help.

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    When I am alone and life is making me lonely I can always go downtown. I have worries, and the noise and hurry seems to help, y’know?

    the lights are bright, I forget my troubles, my cares.

    No finer place, everything is waiting for me.

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    I know.

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    In fact, it’s possible that you may find somebody kind who’ll love and understand you.

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    I hear they have movie shows?

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    How can you lose?

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    My dad bought a drink for Petula Clark years ago after a concert in OR (I think it was OR..). It has become a joke with Mrs. Aces and I because he told us the story 2-3 times and was very impressed, while Mrs. Aces had no idea who Petual Clark was and had 0 interest. I then made it my goal to have dad tell her the story every time we got together.

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    My friend’s dad likes to brag that he was in a band that once opened for The Troggs.

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    I mean there has to be something better to do than movies. Watching movies is a isolating thing even when you are doing it with someone else.

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    Woooooooosh

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    Watching movies when you are doing it with yourself should be done in isolation (Kay might have a different view.)

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    oh youre talking about porn. This makes soo much sense now.

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    I generally agree that pleasuring oneself to adult movies is best done in isolation, unless one has a partner or partners whom all enjoy communal self-pleasuring to adult movies.

    I don’t watch porn. I’ll gladly be in it, tho, as long as I don’t have to watch afterwards.

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    I need to be around squalor, it helps with my agita.

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    Well, another reason pixel counts aren’t still climbing rapidly is that with the tiny sensors in most cameras, the pixels become so small that they can’t collect light very efficiently. That doesn’t matter if it’s high noon on a sunny day, but they really really suck in low light (say indoors or late in the day). All else being equal, bigger pixels are better. But lots of big pixels means a big sensor, and people love their cute little cameras that fit in their coin purse or whatever.

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    I have a camera on my toaster, Its awesome

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    The better to post instagram photos of your fucking lunch, my dear.

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    I helped install one of these in LA last year, we ended up having to use a genie lift because it was 300 lbs, came w/ 2 burly ass wall mounts.
    Looked amazing though and is a great idea for museums/ galleries during an opening, more than a dozen can watch it at one time as opposed to smaller screens.

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    I can’t even imagine what it cost.

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    It’s a pretty fancy gallery, fanciest perhaps?
    Doubt he batted an eye, funny thing is they pay kinda crappy for that level of institution.

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    Ol’ Mr. Five Thirty Eight doesn’t think the Niners will beat Atlanta. Of course, he didn’t think Atlanta would beat Seattle.

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    His shit doesn’t work in the (football) playoffs.

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    and by his shit you mean FO

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    Football is a hard game to look at that way. And, particularly for the Niners, their true talent level is very different than it was in (1) Kaep’s first game; (2) the Justin Smith-less games; and (3) the Alex Smith games.

    I just don’t see a whole lot of room for analysis.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"

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