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That chick is hot.
Thanks, and go As.
Yes.
Shes Allison Brie from Community. She is amazing.
Fuck. Yes.
So happy I live in California.
Well this is indeed something but I can’t help but think replacing Jordan may be the better move.
After the inbox filter fiasco re: federal receivership its just gross negligence…
It is easy to criticize but I can’t help but thinking where is the money for this coming from?
Will the OPD take heed from an outside source?
Holy shit so true.
Thanks, and go As.
Totally true.
Honestly, this is full of shit
Nice guy is a shitty dating strategy for nonwinners. The fact that you are secretly someone’s friend because you actually want to date them is horseshit. Its creepy and if you aren’t truly ok with being friends with someone who you once found to be attractive you shouldn’t do it.
Out of my 10 favorite people in the world 7 are women. I have tried to date 5 of them. It didn’t work in each and every case. I am not friend zoned. I made a decision to be someones friend because they were awesome. In no way am I secretly hoping any of them change their minds.
Most guys say these things because they are alone and think they are the “nice guy”. It helps people avoid looking at themselves and say Hey DFA, you can be a wanker in these instances and maybe thats why a girl doesn’t want to date me or you know how you didn’t want to dance with that not attractive girl maybe this super pretty girl is out of your league. Those aren’t fun things to hear but usually they are true but Im a “nice guy and they finish last” sounds so much better.
Further, with the constant misogyny and objectification of women’s bodyparts on this blog, Im pretty sure no one here qualifies as a “nice guy”
Lastly this
Good thing you’ve got it all figured out.
Thanks, and go As.
Hardly, but I’m not being both creepy and blaming others for my mess.
DFA I think has a LOT of confidence with women and I think this informs his take, which I don’t disagree with although there are probably different shades for varying levels of confidence.
I don’t see how my confidence level affects this. Can you explain further?
It has everything to do with it. If you don’t have confidence, you don’t get to the step 1: Asking them out. The rest is relative and just because you’re still attracted to them and in a “friend” zone doesn’t imply that you’re pining over them and/or not looking elsewhere when they’re in a relationship/showing no romantic interest in you. Because you have the confidence to take step one, you assume that anyone who doesn’t is some creepy fker for remaining friends with them while having some messed up ulterior motive for doing so.
It’s not just confidence. It’s also being comfortable with the fact that you are going to get rejected multiple times. DFA seems like an outlier in that regard.
I consider that part of confidence. You have to be confident enough in yourself to overcome that rejection. As strange as it sounds, I actually fear a positive outcome as much as a negative outcome, but I’m kind of messed up in somewhat atypical ways anyways.
This is in no way unusual, M.
I often think people fear success more than they do failure, in general because of the increased responsibility that comes with success in situations romantic and otherwise.
Definitely agreed. I’ve absolutely had a few rushes of instinct to pull back when things started working in the past. I think it’s that any change, positive or negative, is inherently a bit frightening.
What´s that “rejection” that you talk about?
Its what your bouncer does to the unworthy girls who line up to sleep with you.
Oh, that thing
If you believe that someone shouldn’t get to say there are a lack of nice guys around because they shouldn’t have put you in the friend zone that is an ulterior motive and yes it is creepy.
K.
Remind me to not bother posting shit here anymore. Wouldn’t want to rile up the internet police. Let’s get back to the retarded gun banning talk.
Later.
Thanks, and go As.
Its not about whether you post or not or the internet police or not.
Its about the fucked up social system we have rigged in society. But when it comes to the nice guys/pretty girls co dependency that shit works both ways and guys bitching about it doesn’t make them any less culpable.
See, I think nice guys know exactly that they’re singularly their own problem. They don’t need a reminder (excepting the completely oblivious creepy mofos). I see the real problem in society is the notion that it’s the guy who needs to pursue the woman and seldom, if ever, the other way around. Some people just don’t know what the fk they’re doing and/or how to do (or have the confidence to do it). That’s not to say the first part of what I said about the guy being his own problem isn’t still true, it’s just a fked up quirk that gives nice/shy guys no real avenue around themselves.
I think I may have unintentionally friend-zoned a few ladies back in the day. It’s not impossible for it to work both ways.
me too, but I don’t suffer from lack of confidence.
shit happens.
The first girl I ever fell in love with pushed me into a wall and made out with me when I was 17. She was a fantastic girl.
Completely agree with your point here though.
This part however is the biggest bollocks.
1 Nice =/= shy. Nice is a man that will treat a woman with respect, dignity, and compassion. Whether you are shy or confident has nothing to do with that.
2 Im not sure why nice guys should get to complain about why they don’t get picked when they are unwilling to put themselves out there. If you aren’t willing to pay a dollar for a ticket, you cant complain about not winning the lotto.
When I complain about girls picking up creepy douches at night clubs, Im not standing by the bar or on the wall, Im out there dancing and not letching.
Agreed that a lot of frustration does come from that and it would be a better world with a more even pursuer/pursuant balance between the sexes. That’s a slow change to come in society though.
Women should pursue who they want.
Im not sure how that abdicates the concept that you should pursue what you want.
We’re saying the same thing. I’m not assuming a fixed amount of pursuing available (i.e. achieve pursuing balance through increase of women pursuing, not decrease of guys pursuing).
Fk you youre not allowed to agree with me!
#llama’d
I know this is serious, but it made me laugh.
Kuddos
Also what part of me saying that I can be a wanker makes it sound like Ive got shit all figured out? Im hella a work in progress, but I don’t hide from the hard truth that Im not so gorgeous that girls throw themselves at me and Ive got to fix certain aspects of my personality.
You really have no idea what you’re talking about. I have several female friends that a) I’m attracted to b) I’m friends with c) I would still be friends with regardless of whether I was attracted to them or not. Hell, one turned me and wouldn’t even go out with me, but it didn’t stop the fact that I still cared about her and liked talking to and hanging around with her. You’re making a really bad assumption here.
If you don’t care about whether they “friend zone” you why are you complaining about being friendzoned?
The whole “nice guy” stigma is kinda BS. There’s eleventy billion factors that go into whether or not a girl wants to sleep with you/date you. Saying it’s because you’re a nice guy… kind of a cop out. Trying to exchange kindness/friendship for sex works great in romcoms, but not in real life. Don’t whine, move onto the next one.
Does it mean be an asshole? Not at all. Just accept that it’s not going to happen. The reason is irrelevant and thinking about that only makes it worse. Just try again with someone else.
(Where in the fuck was that mentality in me 4-5 years ago?)
I strongly disagree with this:
Thinking about it is the only way you can fix things.
I meant more dwelling than thinking.
That and being a nice guy is nice but… being a nice, interesting guy is better? I do not understand why women are supposed to be putting ‘OPEN FOR BUSINESS’ signs on their vagina for nice, when that’s really more the expected baseline of polite behavior in society.
Especially given that so many identify themselves woefully as “nice” like it’s on a ‘Hello, My Name is…’ sticker attached to their chest, rather than just being a nice person, doing nice things, and being nice to be around, which are traditionally way more attractive than “I AM SO NICE WHY ARE YOU DATING JERKS INSTEAD OF ME”, which is what gives ‘run for the hills’ red flags. Because dating one of those once is enough to make someone never, ever do it again.
This is why I identify as a heinous bitch, it makes life much spicier.
Honest question-have you ever asked where the nice guys are?
Does it fking matter? Is a colloquialism that basically says why isn’t there someone who I find attractive who is interesting and treats me well who wants to date me. Its not a question literally asking for nice guys to show up.
The dude version is “Why can’t I find a sane girl?” Which considering the history of marginalizing women with mental health might be more stupid, especially considering that there are plenty of sane women out there. It means I would like someone hot who wants to date me.
ok, so that would be “no” for you..thanks for that..
A) Why? I mean, if I want to meet a genuinely nice guy, it doesn’t mean those guys in the friendzone or who claim to be nice necessarily are, or are suited for me.
B) Probably back when I was a teenager, sure. But let’s be real, people want to find someone they like and are attracted to who is attracted to them in turn, and that’s a fuck of a lot of words so there’s always shortcuts. Women lamenting over ‘nice guys’ is an abbreviation for a lot of things.
And I don’t ask where the nice guys are personally, no, because I dated some genuinely sweet, nice, lovely men when I was younger and those relationships didn’t end particularly well due to other traits. So I’ve learned some specificity. I ask where the non-needy, hot, possibly-bearded, an-edge-of-sassiness, not-crying-when-I-get-snarky, employed, without-restraining-orders, non-Giants-fan, non-abusive-and-without-substance-issues, intelligent, fabulously nerdy and interesting guys who-I-am-attracted-to-that-are-attracted to me are. Homegirl has LEARNED not to ask the universe in a wishy-washy way (yeah, universe, 2006-2009 was HILARIOUS to you, wasn’t it)
The answer? SPACE.
You are spot on with a lot of this. In the light of the morning, thanks for the honest response. And you are right-the message that every single guy in the friendzone is your knight in shining armor would be a bunch of trite BS. But at the same time, seeing chicks that always go for the worst person in the room, and cant understand why they cant find the nice guy Bulldog with fresh sleeves no job and already has kids with 2 other chicks could drive a guy a bit batty.
The answer I guess would be walk away if you dont want to hear her lament. But as I was reading it last night everything just came off a bit harsh. If I was struggling over the state of relationships and posted something to my friends I dont think I would expect an hour or so of helpful hints about why I am full of shit, a loser, and not a nice guy. (in the interest of full disclosure I married a girl from high school and had a grand total of maybe 5 dates before that so I m probably the worst person on this site to be diving into the dating discussion..)
No, being friendzoned totally and completely sucks. I can’t argue with that. I’ve been friendzoned before plenty of times, and while years later I can understand why/appreciate that it wouldn’t have worked out for whatever reasons, at the time? It totally and completely bites.
There’s this weird cultural mythology that only men get friendzoned when ladies do all the time – we’re all living that Taylor Swift song too, watching the guys we’re attracted to ignore us in favor of the hot, skinny, tanned women who don’t have things in common with them. It’s just life. You can’t control who people are attracted to, or else I would HELLA be shacking up with Travis Blackley right now.
It’s just The Lament of the Nice Guys has been heard over and over again so many times in life and American culture that it kind of loses its meaning, so that graphic may have made me see red because it’s such a kind of ridiculous refrain that implies that people somehow owe their attraction to each other.
And I am also infinitely curious how, if the meme is correct that women only apparently date horrible jerky tattooed guys, there are any decent men in relationships. I mean, if women are always going for the worst guy in the room, you, as a married man, obviously have awesome prison tats and guzzle beer for breakfast, because a woman went for you.
I am not in the market and you and me are clearly friends, and I mean this in the most respectful way, but I cannot imagine a heterosexual man placing you in the friendzone.
Eh. It has happened and will most certainly happen again. I’m not everyone’s cup o’ tea.
Fuck pay discrimination
That would have to be the worst thing about being a woman. Taylor Swift and that song are awful.
Happiness is not knowing what the hell DFA is talking about
hereAgreed
Fixed
Heh
For me that goes for any FK discussion having anything to do with music.
I don’t know what the definition of “friendzoned” is, but if it covers every friendship of opposite gender (well, for straight people I guess, I’m not sure what the best definition would be in general) than I think it is most cases a good thing. I have had / still have many female friends I got along with great and never had any intention of sleeping with.
The general idea is that it’s a friendship wherein one party (usually secretly) wants to date the other party or move the relationship to a romantic place, but the other party shows no interest. One side sees the other as “just a friend” or “like a sibling” or some such, and the other side sees the former as a potential romantic partner. Largely internal frustrations abound.
OK, thanks. I never had that
Because who wouldn’t want to date you?
No, just the opposite. I’ve been friends with many women/girls I never wanted to date and the fact that they felt the same enabled the friendships.
Leaving unsaid my assumption that there’s never been a woman you wanted to date who didn’t want to date you.
or a man.
Thanks, and go As.
True. I just assumed EC only dated women since he only referenced women.
Mutual agreement as to the nature of a friendship or relationship is the key thing here…
AMEN girlfriend! LOL
Which is every bit as bad or worse than what Mike posted
Nope.
In what world is Im just mean to everyone because I feel like it better than I wish my friend would go out with me?
Honestly, their both a cowards way outs of social interactions.
Being a bitch in no way, shape, or form limits social interactions. It just makes them awesome.
Being a bitch can be about not giving a damn and doing what you damn well please in social interactions, fast food restaurants, the office, carpools, shopping malls, and wherever the fuck else.
I am highly pro women reclaiming the word bitch as a term of power.
No it really doesn’t. It makes you small.
It creates a negative feedback loop, where you say the world sucks so I am a bitch, but you being one causes the world to treat you in a way that you do not like.
The idea is that a.) women aren’t encouraged to be assertive or aggressive and b.) there are social forces in play that reenforce this behavior, whether you’re aware of it or not (hence the “bitch” label, among many others). I think this is more along the lines of not giving a damn about that reenforcing behavior, rather than being an indiscriminate douche bag(uette).
I’m not sure that both sides are operating with the same definition of “bitch” in this discussion.
this is almost certainly correct.
And there you have it.
Indeed.
This is the line of thinking I am operating from. <3
No, it really doesn’t make you small. It makes you awesome.
Why does the world have to suck for one to be a bitch and that be a part of it?
You think there is “constant misogyny” on FK? I must have missed that.
quite and make me a sammich (assuming you are now a woman, otherwise, lets drink Oly’s)
I guess I’ve seen the first part written ironically a few times. I don’t get the reference in the parenthetical.
Was just saying something anti woman to fit in. I wasn’t referencing any previous thing per se, just making a more hostile environment.
Ah. Carry on then.
Have you missed the omnipresent lecherous and “boob” comments?
That’s not misogyny. That’s objectification. You said both were constant.
I see them as the same thing.
How imprecise of you.
Perhaps. I think the objectification is a refusal to give women their full worth as people rather than objects of possession and allows the justification of treatment of women as objects. Justifying that women should be treated sub-humanly is misogyny.
Well explained. I’m often uncomfortable with that strain of comment too, and for similar reasons. I just tend to think of misogyny as describing something more malicious that I don’t see here, but I do see in most places where a lot of guys gather to discuss sports.
Its not nearly as bad as in many places nor is it as malicious, but we accept more here than we should, which is something that I have voiced in the past but should probably say more often.
So your first link in this grill…?
A woman taking on a traditional male roll as a superhero?
Of course.
Why shouldn’t Captain America be a woman? In super hero movies the woman is always the lame side kick, I see no reason why you cant change the gender of the protagonist.
pffft, everyone knows that ladies can’t be captains.
I haven’t read the discussion yet, but I’m with you on this DFA. While the friend zone certainly exists, putting the blame for that relationship dynamic solely on the woman is a cop out at best and dishonest at worst. In my experiences with a friend zone situation, I did as much (or more accurately, as little) to get to that state as she did.
And the whole “nice guy/jerk” binary labeling system weirds me out too. Treating someone like a person doesn’t entitle you to a sexual relationship nor does it make you a martyr to some sort of better man cause.
I completely understand the frustrations and feelings that drive both of those concepts, but it’s ridiculous that the frustration is geared outward toward women rather than inward towards one’s self.
bingo
[blinks]
…did you win a prize?
Winner
Women don’t magically friendzone guys for no reason, or for being too nice, or just to be evil. I am eternally fascinated with how it’s NOT OKAY for women to just not be interested sexually in someone and not really interested in giving them a chance when they’ve made that determination. Dudes do it all the time to little fanfare.
I wish men would value self-love more highly, as opposed to carrying a sense of shame about masturbation and/or valuing self-given orgasms lowly compared to penetrative orgasms.
Maybe I’m naive here, but methinks a lot of the bitching about being “FriendZoned” is really bitching about not being “FriendWithBenefitsZoned.”
I actually do think you’re being naive here. And that’s not something I ever expected to be able to say to you.
agreed
masturbation is both widely practiced and a hollow substitute for a loving caring partner
Of course it is no substitute for a loving caring partner, but I think it’s a fine substitute for meaningless casual sex.
It’s a substitute, but not a perfect substitute. They are two very different activities, even if the physical result below the waist is roughly the same.
As someone who does both… its really not the same at all.
I realize that I do something when I masturbate that most people likely don’t do… My personality splits. I’m not alone in my head.
So, I guess I had it wrong in regards to how most people operate. Am I right in assuming a feedback loop can be achieved through good casual sex that most people cannot achieve alone? If so, I will amend my thinking.
I never could achieve any sort of meaningful feedback loop through casual sex. It was always like some weird performance art dance ritual with a lifelike android mannequin.
I don’t split my personality so I have no idea what that is like.
Just like when you are in a relationship sometimes you just want to get yourself off, when you are alone having someone else do it changes the equation. It feels different. Meaningfully different.
Plus even on the extremely casual side there is the sort of ego boost that your partner could have chosen anyone to fuck, and yet they chose you.
So basically not the same at least for me.
Ego boost? Hmm… I’m pretty sure I’m already maxed out at a medium ceiling.
There is so much I don’t know about fking, tho, and probably never will.
I had a drunken conversation with a friend of my ex while we were dating. I posited that I wish I had the power to make people explode with my mind. He said he’d much rather have the ability to make girls want to have sex with him. I told him that I wouldn’t want that power because much of the fun of sex is convincing someone else that they want to willingly have sex with you, whether it is because you can dance like no one else, are witty and your charm is infatuating, or because of your better than hipster good looks doesn’t really matter, getting consent is hot and a huge part of the fun of sex.
When you aren’t having sex with someone that you are emotionally attached to (for which sex creates an intimacy that I miss when I am not infatuated with someone) it is the one remaining emotional tenant.
The dance of garnering consent and commencing with a mutual experience is often the same at the kink club as it is at the dance club. I don’t get turned down often either, but I know what types are generally into someone like me and what the signals are. However, that’s pretty much where the similarities end.
Every day I become more aware that my approach to sexuality is more the approach of a monk seeking enlightenment through endurance ritual than the approach of a hetero- or homo- sexual seeking pleasure through fking and foreplay.
That that kind of normative judgement in your favor surprises me Kay.
I don’t think I know what you mean here.
Saying that your version of what sex is enlightenment but what the rest of us hetero/homos practice is base pleasure seeking seems a bit far fetched and more judgmental that I am accustom from you
Ah. That’s not how I meant it at all. No wonder I didn’t understand your reply. My words were inefficient. Of course, enlightenment nuggets can be found through fucking, even as a byproduct of pleasure-seeking. Pleasure-seeking is fine too, although it’s not my personal path.
I don’t know what exactly it is I’m seeking through my particular sexual practices. The best answers I have so far are that I’m seeking out-of-body experiences and past-life memories. I’m seeking some sort of purpose to my existence. I want to learn how to endure great discomfort with gratitude and grace.
You’re right about all of this, but I think the friend-zone lament is saying something more than “she’s not interested in me sexually and I wish she was.” It’s “she wants me around and available to her emotionally, and she sort of gets off on the fact that I’m into her and that I’m there as a potential fallback, but she won’t give me a chance romantically.” Women (or men) who are on the not interested side of that relationship should not be demonized, but they also shouldn’t exploit the situation, and they really shouldn’t complain to the friend-zoned party about their inability to find a nice partner.
Are you sure that’s a common factor when women friendzone men? I’m thinking it’s a male ego defense mechanism to think she sees you as a fallback when maybe in reality she sees no such thing.
I’m saying that’s the friendzoned man’s lament. I don’t know whether it’s true.
isn’t a friend zone something like a vestibule?
If 100 friendzoned men just got permanent irrevocable confirmation that they would NEVER have sexual relations with the woman who friendzoned them, how many friendships would remain out of the 100?
Probably a lot. For the straight male with a fragile ego and low self esteem, there’s a fulfillment in just being *near* an attractive woman, whether or not there’s truly any chance of sexual relations.
I think a lot of truths have been said above. Friend zone is beneficial to both parties; one person gets emotional support and the other gets a small ego boost and some material to fantasize over. The woman shouldn’t exploit the situation, but sometimes does. The man should step up and communicate, and frequently does not.
And nice does not mean being gutless, necessarily; however, I’d be surprised if there’s no correlation between being thoughtful/caring/sensitive (which requires a certain level of self-awareness) and being fearful of failure (which can be caused by self-obsession).
Im not sure why you think women have the ability to exploit it? If the man was genuine about his desire for friendship there would be no power to exploit.
I’m making the assumption that using the term “friend-zoned” implies that the man is not genuine about this desire.
Are we talking specifically about “friend-zoning,” or about male/female friendships in general? Anything I’ve said doesn’t apply to the latter.
We agree on the definition.
Im saying that being dishonest about your own motives makes the exploitation your own fault.
While I mostly agree with you, there’s a touch of a “victim is to blame” in there that I can’t agree with. If you mean that feeling exploited is one’s own responsibility, yes, I believe everyone’s feelings are their own responsibility. But there’s some line where the woman in this scenario may be taking advantage of the situation. And while he should put a stop to it, she still shouldn’t do it.
I definitely hear what you are saying about how the extension of this reasoning to other things would show a blame the victim ethos.
However, in this example I see it as, don’t try to hustle someone at pool who is better at hustling pool than you are. If that happens to you I have no sympathy, since you shouldn’t have been hustling in the first place. Both are acting in bad faith, and just because your bad faith action was countered with more bad faith that doesn’t mean your actions are ok.
(Now Im going to go ask Big Jim for my money back)
Do you have cronies? I think Big Jim may have cronies.
yeah they are the gang on 42nd street driving a drop top cadillac
When I think of Willie McCoy, the physical picture of DFA does not come to mind.
I’m just getting Leonard McCoy.
What about a man who is called slim down home?
More so. Yes. Good call.
that was my original intention
Those are big Jim’s cronies
Which is the bullshit and the farce that is both parties fault.
A woman who is willing to have a “friendship” with a man that is unwilling to be her friend if she completely takes sex off the table is pathetic, just like the man who will only be friends with a woman if they hope that one day she will secretly realize the error of her ways and fall madly and deeply in love with you.
Isn’t that the difference between a friend and an acquaintance?
am I missing something? To be a friend, in the zone of friends, you are emotionally there for someone (to whatever degree).
I so want to jump into this debate.
But I will avoid doing so.
[sagh]
Come on in, the water’s fine.
I very much want to hear what you have to say about this matter.
agreed
It took me so long to just learn that. I’m not owed anything. If a girl isn’t attracted to you, she’s not attracted. It could’ve been because you don’t play a guitar, could’ve been because your name starts with an S and her last boyfriend’s name started with an S, seriously so many reasons. You can’t force attraction on someone. And being nice to try to get someone to like you seems so backward now. Fuck it, I’m awesome. Like me because I’m awesome, not because I’m doing nice stuff for you in an effort to get your romantic attention.
THIS THIS THIS and THIS!
and I’m very FKing happy to read this coming from you.
Me too, Kay, me too.
This is really good to hear yon as the opposite made your stand up cringe worthy at times, because it was very clear that you were really bitter. I hope this change improves both your dating life and your stand up.
Yeah… and now I feel stupid for inviting everyone to see me comedy when I was just starting out and pretty much sucked. I probably should’ve waited until now. And did my bitterness really shine through that much? Damn.
Either way… yeah, my life in general has really taken off this year. I just got tired of being unhappy. I think that’s really the basis of all of this… are you happy? If the answer is no, find some way to change it. Because if you’re not happy, trying to find someone to make you happy isn’t going to work.
There is nothing wrong with inviting people to watch you do something that you aren’t good at yet if you care about it and enjoy it.
And yes. It made you seem like a bitter misogynist who hated himself, which is why when you put some jokes up here I tried to steer you away from them.
As for the last part, I totally agree. My life is pretty much shit right now and this year has been an nearly unmitigated disaster (A’s, Obama, US Senate and getting one super awesome new best friend are really the only thing that went remotely well). I am working on fixing that. Unfortunately, plans A and B failed but I get my LSATs back soon, which will tell me if that path makes sense. Its ok to have bumps and shit not go well but you gotta want to be happy and if you aren’t you have to want to change to make things better.
Im glad you have realized this and you are on your road to happiness.
Best of luck with the LSAT’s, man. Sometimes it’s not always plans A or B that work best. You’re a smart guy and you can figure it out.
Thanks dude. It is appreciated. I think there are a lot of people both on Kraut and elsewhere going through a rough time right now. Hopefully it will all come out in the wash.
Realizing that a change is needed is half the battle. A lot of my misery came largely from my job. I was bitter that I wasn’t at the same career/social life level as my peers. I got the new job, moved out of Dodge, and I’m on the right path now.
Yeah. The job thing is my big obstacle right now. I hate my job and my business that was suppose to let me leave it failed after a year of hard work. Everything else is rather mundane, but when you hate waking up to go to work every day it really doesn’t take much else to turn regular stuff that sucks into Epic LIFE FAIL.
You know, when I sit quietly and ponder on the sweet, halcyon days of my yout’ — the passions, the orgiastic joys, the self-discovery, the pain, the loves, the lust, the loss, the louses, the crushes, affections, agonies, ardor, devotion, distresses, ecstasies, excitement, fervor, fire, frenzies, fury, heat, intensity, misery, rapture, suffering, warmth and zeal, I say to myself
…
…
…why the FK would I ever want to go through THAT, again? (well, except the orgiastic part).
Sorry if you have had a bad patch man. 2013 is going to be good, keep your chin up. Im gonna guess you didnt come in tonight and decide to post an image so that everyone could decide what is wrong with your dating techniques.
Im sure there is some truth in what everyone has said, but dont let that drive you off. There is just as much BS in it too. Its the dead of hot stove season and time to jump on anything anyone says. Pitchers and catchers cant get her soon enough. Spring and rebirth. Till then I will have a drink for you (even 2 if thats what it takes..)
I honestly didn’t mean to direct my comments at MikeV, just at the whole “nice guy” thing.
We love you, Mike. You’re a great guy and things will get better.
I heart Ranger Bob!
RIP, Stormin’ Norman
WTF is with everyone suddenly dying all of sudden. It’s like a Mayan Apocalypse or something.
Celebrity rapture.
Wouldn’t that be an amazing “Reality TV” show?
Six Words:
Tonight on “Celebrity Rapture” : Ricardo Montalban
Dude was probably all out of rockets anyway.
This reminded me of the part in “Falling Down” where the kid shows Michael Douglas how to use the rocket launcher. Full circle!
Has anyone considered whether Dwyane Wade might have been watching Bad Santa (NSFW language warning)before this game?
This made me tear up. Mrs. Ice Cream, too.
Is Facebook acting weird for anyone else? Or just me?
Mrs. Aces said it seemed slow to her earlier..
yeah, people aren’t “like”ing my jokes
It looks completely screwy for me, and has since about 2 this afternoon. I cover FB for a social media company… and never heard back about what’s going on. Ugh.
It looks like this.
Never mind… cleared my cache. Fixed now :-).
Talking of facebook: Zuckerberg’s sister gets privacy settings wrong, accuses world of poor netiquette (the kicker is she’s also a reality TV producer).
Sharing isn’t cool, bro!
And what a strange overreaction. I mean, yeah, if the world posted the pic of me and little Miss Aces acting like zombies around the tree I might be a bit freaked out, but for her reaction you would think it was a picture of her and the family digging graves for the hobos they killed as part of their annual Christmas festivities.
awesome
Down with toy apartheid!
related
heh
nice
that is all sorts of win
AV/mb bait:
aren’t we past the point of identifying web v hard paper content?
we have tried very hard to not gender stereo type as one might expect from me. It broke my heart the other day when I was instructed not to put the juice box with the mermaid on it in the lunch box because it had to be brown bagged in the cafeteria so the boys wound not make fun of my kid.
that fucking blows
it does.
He still watches dora though. I would worry that he is too old for it, but he watches the spanish version.
Oh nice!
he is taking to the immersion stuff, so long as it increases his cartoon watching.
Sorry I have been so awol on the drinks.
youve really been an asshole hanging out with family and doing work instead of drinking with a hipster
During this week, I do, too
I worry you are too old for it
Not Mexican enough
Dora in English is excruciatingly horrible, I can only assume Spanish doesn’t improve it much.
probably not, but its fast talking spanish and he understands it
That sucks. :(
I’ve been told that somewhere around 2 years old, girls just refuse to deal with things that aren’t pink and sparkly. And I’ve been told this by people who were appalled that their efforts to avoid that outcome failed.
Not data, not even my own anecdote, but still
That was my experience with all three of my nieces, despite a serious, concerted, well thought-out, subversive effort by both me and my mother.
Though, in fairness, both my brother and sister-in-law’s efforts were very counterproductive to our efforts.
you know that old saying about VD? the you are sleeping with everyone the person you are sleeping with slept with?
kinda like that. your/our kids are being peer taught by other kids. some of those other kids are taught by people that there are gender roles/toys etc. those kids voice an opinion to your/our kids.
The opinion is remarkable to your/our kids because 1) its a new idea and 2) its deeply held by the speaker.
Kids are very impressionable and will conform to deeply help beliefs, even if the contact with the speaker was brief.
Maybe so. It’ll be interesting to see how Yoenessa does.
One of my nieces somehow discovered and became addicted to Elmo at about that time, despite her parents having absolutely no idea where she even learned that Elmo existed.
It’s always the parents that are the last to know. I experience at least one Elmo junkie every week at my work…
Methodone?
Dora qualifies as methadone.
On a tangent: my ex was a live-in nanny, an one night while the whole family was watching tv, the older daughter (4 years old) suddenly stood up, grabbed one of the cushions, and said “Fuckin’ pillow! It’s a damn shame!” No one knows where she learned it.
We found the Disney anthropomorphized animals were and excellent alternative to the princesses – and Lily agreed!
Unfortunately, I have found this to be the case, too. Fortunately, some of those girls have grown out of it; some have not. I already have given up on Spawn2 (age 2) not being a girly girl. She likes dresses. She likes bags and purses. She likes accessorizing. She likes puppies and kitties. She has shown this propensity for several months already.
However, she also has shown a fairly strong assertive streak (even compared to other two year olds) that makes me not worry so much.
Truly understand these wise notions, and YOU TOO can pitch in the Big Leagues!
Oh, Felix Hernandez FINALLY learned how to pitch. I was waiting for him to get around to that.
Oh damn, did i step on your line?
No big whoop. I’m glad we both thought to share it.
I’m a dinosaur! Rawr! Rawr! Rawr!
I’m a meteor! KaBLAMMO!!!
I am a walrus! Coo coo a choo!
And there you have it.
“I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together” is the aphorism/personal Psalm I hold most dear.
Not “boy you’ve been a naughty girl you let your knickers down”?
…are you propositioning me?
Because I only feel that way about you if you buy me things.
Otherwise we’re “just friends?”
Does that mean all your friends are dead?
Adorno sez friendship is impossible on this side of the holocaust. So, yes, friendship is dead. Suck it, friends.
Adorno contradicted himself. He should have recognized that the primacy of the primitive values of sympathy and empathy tend to win out in small social groups over the cultural tides of soulless liquidationism.
I love you people
Kisses, hipster.
Adorno was kind of a dick…
Gay men allowed to donate blood in the UK
I love slow news days.
FIRE CURT YOUNG starts today
awesome
Why is FK so funky on my iPad?
because youre not allowed to have an ipad?
Are you on the mobile version rather than the standard one? My tablet browser forces me on the mobile version and then i have to change over to standard.
Were you logged in? (sort of a dumb question because you couldnt comment it you werent). There has been an issue recently where it looks really screwy until you log in, and then it goes back to normal.
Oh, yeah, that definitely happened, too…
I’ve never had anything like this before. iPad.
My new girlfriend is awesome. Seriously. Just awesome awesome awesome.
So does anyone have an iPad or is Apple savvy? Where can I learn all the neat tricks this thing can do?
I’m somewhat Apple savvy, but I have never had an iPad. What do you want to know?
Just the tricks or whets got ores upon the tricks.
Where to go. Stupid autocorrect…
Ask a kid.
My niece taught my mom how to use her iPad when she was 5. When my niece was 5, not my mom.
I don’t know that I’ve felt this in a long while, here, hanging out by myself…
what is hanging out that you are feeling? Inquiring minds want to know…
[checks to see if fly is open]
I don’t see anything…☺
Damn you.
How are you, LB?
My friend Duane writes this blog. He is a padres fan, but vounts the a’s as seconds. He has gone to games with me a.d the family even in the lean times.
Here he interviews a guy about a documentary about the pcl padres.
Here
(and fixed)
Fucking phone
justified
Tim Olyphant.
Montana cocksucker.
Winner. At least he stayed away from that shit sandwich, “John from Cincinnati.”
My fucking house is overrun with ants again. How I hate them. I constantly feel like something is crawling on me…more than usual, even.
the worst. i live in constant fear of another attack
Yesterday I had an apple pie perched on top of an upside-down bowl, which was atop a plate filled with water, forming a moat against ant incursions. The pie survived, but the holiday chocolate without a moat barrier was lost.
I gave in after years of battling ants with low-toxic options and following interminable ant trails throughout the kitchen and house to spray them with my isopropyl alcohol/water/dish detergent mix. Now, I am thoroughly happy to call my pest control company once a year to spray the perimeter of my house with Termidor. That takes care of the ant problem and the frustration of ant invasions into my home in the height of winter and the heat of summer.
The Nurse and I are mostly anti-toxic, though I’ll break out a Grant’s Ant Bait once or twice a year when an ant hoard gets too horrible to stand. Cayenne works OK to block common paths. But mostly I just wait until the weather changes and they leave again.
I saw about 20-some black widows today, make you feel better?
As you prepare for the inevitable zombie apocalypse, don’t forget to peruse this tome.
You all go to bed so damn early!
You guys know about this right? She was treated at a hospital not too far from the hospital where I work. From what I heard, “severely beaten” is far too kind to describe the state of her injuries. You see pretty bad shit working in a hospital, but crimes against women are relatively uncommon in Singapore so the pure brutality and inhumanity of this incident really shocked everyone.
Absolutely horrifying. I cannot comprehend the mentality if someone who would do this.
It’s shocking how easy it is for people to lose their basic humanity in a mob mentality situation
Amen, brother
yup
Yeah I saw that.
One thing that hasn’t changed throughout time, never underestimate the ability of people to commit unspeakable horror on their fellow humans. Its so sad.
Much better day today. Family went for a picnic, and I used the time to climb the three peaks of Aiako Harria (Peñas de Aya). From the parking lot to all three and back in hour, fifteen minutes carrying an 18lb backpack. Slowly, I´m getting back to where I need to be
You need to get back to making Dos Equis commercials soon.
No kidding! Cuba needs more cigars.
Looks beautiful, whats the change in temp from summit to valley?
And how high is(are) the summit(s)?
Around 800 meters, but that is also almost their prominence, as they are on the Atlantic ocean, which you can observe on most of the way up.
It´s by no measure a high mountain, but there are some nice cliffs between Irumugarrieta and Txurrumurru with some 2nd grade climbing needed. Overall it was about 8-10 km with some 1200-1500 altitude meters
No idea, I was sweating at the top, so I guess it was warmer there
Holy shit.
That’s gorgeous.
That is video game art and not really real right?
Seriously. That’s the kind of stuff that I’d put in my computer wallpaper rotation.
Happen to have a sufficiently high-res file?
EBEX launches beautifully
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that shadow is shockingly bigger than expected
Probably due to the low sun angle.
Can you explain to me what I just watched
A microwave telescope just lifted off on a weather balloon. If everything goes well, that balloon will fly in circles over Antarctica for 15-20 days (or maybe more? depends on the cryogens… maybe ptbnl knows). During those 15-20 days, it will be above 99% of the atmosphere, so it can make observations in basically space-like conditions for a fraction of the cost.
The telescope is the large payload that is being held by the launch vehicle. EBEX is a very large payload, even for these long duration balloon (LDB) flights. Pretty much everything else is balloon. It looks small right now, because the balloon is compressed under sea-level pressure. When it gets up to float altitude, that balloon will be roughly the size of a football stadium.
Wow, that’s a really impressive amount of expansion, is the gas helium?
The expansion also clears up the mystery of the saggy outer membrane you see on the weather balloons when they are being launched, was always curious about that.
yep. Helium.
thank you that is awesome
Sponsored by Red Bull?
When I passed through McMurdo on my way home (December 16-18, I think), the EBEX crew was sweating pretty hard. I’m glad to hear that they launched! Is the sun still sufficiently far off the target field?
What were those things that fell to the ground at around 1:25 and 1:40? They didn’t need that stuff, right?
Someone made that comment on the youtube video and Asad (post-doc at Minnesota) posted a response saying that it was normal.
Stuff falling off is normal? It’s like an Italian car.
I guess FG’s ugly new format did push me into catching up w/ Notgraphs, which payed the FK off.
R.A. Dickey, HOLY CARP.
It’s like magic.
Mesmerizing
For chrissakes, why isn’t
Bob HopePete Townshend dead yet?cool, can we regulate fame now?
He cant die before Feb 1… I got my mom Who tickets for Christmas.
Aww. That’s sweet.
it is. I hope my kids get me damned tickets for christmas 2032
I got her Jackson Browne tickets two years ago for her birthday. He is her other favorite. It was amazing.
cool. he is touring again, no?
I don’t know but if he is and you want to go with me and my mom, Im hella down. I bet we could rope the slingers’ in to boot.
how mad would DFA be if his kids got him skrillix tickets?
lol yeah
But I Bet Dragonette is still amazing in 20 years.
At 924 Gilman, which will have by then converted to become an old folks home.
Punk old folks house
orthopedic chuck taylors.
I could use those now
I got my daughter One Direction tickets for Christmas.
the who>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>one direction
Eh, one boy band is pretty much like another.
Also the Who is perhaps the most overrated band of their era, and their music has aged horribly.
This.
I think we’ve had this
argumentdiscussion before, but you are wrong.This is just factually inaccurate.
As proven by the success of Abbott and Costello:
WHO is
onFIRST!Boybands are like snowflakes. Each beautiful in its own, individual way, yet also part of the greater, elegant whole.
Wow…good good father. I cant let lil Miss Aces ever meet you, if that got to her she would cast me into a pit for not doing likewise…
Awww, that is an awesome thing to do.
Hey!
So when do the head coach firings begin?
With any luck the Raiders suckiness today will convince San Diego to keep Norv on board for another year.
This
All right, Raiders, back into your coffin. We’ll see you when it’s time to destroy the field in August. As far as Norv…Lane Kiffin’s new OC at U$C?
Nah, Norv and the GM should be out.
Andy Reid is reportedly out already… I haven’t heard anything about Chan Gailey yet.
Reid, Gailey, Shurmur, Crennel, Lovie Smith,
almost certainlyNorv, Whisenhunt.Of the 12 teams in the NFL playoffs there are 4 I completely loathe (SF, WASH, DENV, and NEWE) and 3 others I dislike a lot (ATL, HOU, and BALT). I guess I could get on board with another Green Bay run, or the unlikely Indy streak, but mostly it’s looking like a lot of joyless postseason games ahead for me.
For me, it’s very simple. Here is how I feel about NFL teams:
1. Raiders
2.
3.
…
31.
32. Everybody else.
Just remember the best part of the NFL season: when the final gun of the Super Bowl goes off and it’s 2 weeks til pitchers and catchers report.
Plus, Ken’s Bill King book is coming out, maybe in March.
What is this “football” everyone talks about? There are only two sport seasons…BASEBALL, and Auto Racing!
Auto racing? Eww…
Everybody knows the other real sport is Curling!
Hockey?
Do they still play that sport?
Hockey’s a sport? I thought it was some sort of secret machismo cult with ceremonial curved sticks and badly knit tribal affiliation sweaters.
It actually might be better right now if it was a cult, because they could just sacrifice Bettman and a few token lackeys and get back to their little ice ritual.
I’m just hoping my comment gave someone a sad.
I believe they renamed that sport “LaborDispute”
Every 4 years I tell myself I should figure out a way to watch more curling.
You spelled hurling wrong
A popular sport on NYE.
I feel stupid, but what´s NYE?
New Year’s Eve
I would love a Niners/Colts super bowl
I’d love a Niners/Anyone Super Bowl.
Also acceptable.
But yeah, it would be fun if the Colts made it. I also wouldn’t mind seeing Houston, just because the 49ers haven’t faced them.
I’m not really sure who in the AFC I’m scared of. Denver, probably, because we seem unable to cover 8-10 yard routes. Ind, maybe, because they seem absolutely on fire and because #ChuckStrong would win the SB if this was a movie. But the Pats/Bengals/Ravens/Texans all seem weaker than the NFC field.
I kinda like that everyone seems flawed. There’s no one team that jumps out as unbeatable.
Yeah, definitely no juggernauts the way I thought last year’s Packers would be.
My NFL season was complete when another over-hyped, Dallas-based franchise got FKd on the last day of the season by a team with low pre-season expectations.
As they say, give them ‘Boys an enema, and bury ’em in a shoebox.
It is fun to watch the Cowboys fail, innit? Then again, it was pretty much negated by watching Snyder’s Washington OutdatedRacistCaricatures win.
It was kinda like watching Yankees-Red Sox will be next year when they’re battling it out for the second wild card spot in late September.
:-(
Sorry dude, but you kinda gotta accept that the Cowboys are one of the most hated football teams in America.
Not just them, the Gnats too.
The Vikes’ win (in a really entertaining game yesterday) set me up to have my heart broken yet again, but like Charley Brown I’ll step right up to kick that football that Lucy is holding, securely this time, I’m sure of it. Can’t wait for the rematch next Sat in Green Bay.
I really enjoyed the outcome, not least because it prevents me from having my heart broken this weekend.
I actually think that the packers are the weakest team in the NFC at this point. One dimensional offense, defense like a sieve.
Skol Vikings!
I was waiting for that!
I accidentally clicked on the ring link.
They all suck. like most things like that
Really? You didn’t even like the rough etsy ones?
I really liked the whiskey barrel one, though it’s not my style.
You have to admit, those are extremely non-traditional designs that are inexpensive and rare at least in part because most people wouldn’t want them.
Right, obviously they are nontraditional. Traditional plays into the whole what a wedding should be bullshit.
I thought most here would find them interesting. I like many of them a lot, especially the rough cut/rough band and rose cut ones.
Ozzwife’s ring is/was white gold with a princess-cut sapphire and a couple of small diamonds.
not really into much of that stuff.
I do wear a wedding band, but its not much
Not even something like that suits your fancy?
naw. too…something. engineered? I have a $90 whit gold band. no inscription, nothing but flat band.
Suits me fine.
SLF has the same. She does have other rings that she wears for accessorizing. stars, 666, star, puzzle. I like that stuff as far as accessory go, but I would find it odd in a wedding band.
Well aren’t you a rebel.
The ring doesn’t really look like this, but The DogMa assented on Christmas Eve:
Congrats, DF!
Great news!
That’s sweet!
Most excellent, congrats to you both!
Congrats!
Congrats
ah, I get it, awesome, you guys are great
congratulations!
Yay!
Woohoo!
Congrats!!
Yay!!!
Awesome!
I had a wedding ring, lost it swimming off a Greek island
naturally
Is this how you met?
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Which island? Mrs ptbnl’s first wedding ring lies off of Folegandros.
Creta
Were you able to replace it?
Fortunately our return home was via London, where the rings originally came from, and the silversmith was able to make a new one while we were there.
Yes, we made a replica, which was not hard to do because it was an extremely simple golden ring with nothing to it. I don´t wear it, though.
No Elvish writing?
Elvish is working in a 7-11 in Topeka
Did you ever her about that Harvard professor that called up the National Inquirer and said he had photographic proof that Elvis was still alive? They sent out a “reporter,” and the professor showed a photo of himself standing in front of his house. The reporter asked how this proved that Elvis was alive, and the professor said “Who do you think took the picture?”
I luv it!
Forty men have lost their lives diving trying to find it since.
heh
Huh really?
99% of all wedding rings look absolutely pedestrian to me, I thought they were pretty refreshing takes though they may not all be practical.
Personally, I’d prefer to give my loved one something unique as opposed to the ubiquitous and frankly boring diamond ring.
I mean, it’s all taste. Most of them seem to me to be trying too hard, but then I’m glad that Mrs. N wanted a fairly traditional design.
exactly. Its all taste. I would not have been with SLF for as long as I had before we got married if she had wanted something more. its not who we are.
I found them ‘eh’. But probably because this is more what I consider awesome.
Very cool except someone needs to learn how to spell “baguette.”