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Election Eve Grill 466

Seems like we’re due for a new Grill, so here’s some links for you:

Cliches here, get yer red hot cliches here!
An interesting survey on the meaning of life. H/t Pharyngula.
Deadspin weighs in on the criticism of Silver.
Kluwe to Pioneer Press: FK off.

Grill away!

466 thoughts on “Election Eve Grill

  1. Future Ed Nov 5,2012 11:14 am

    Thanks, I was just about to start looking for crap to post

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
  2. sslinger Nov 5,2012 11:15 am

    Sully’s QOTD:

    We’re not losing 95 percent of African-Americans and two-thirds of Hispanics and voters under 30 because we’re not being hard-ass enough,” – Senator Lindsey Graham.

    • nevermoor Nov 5,2012 11:17 am || Up

      Says the guy who wimped out on bipartisanship for no good reason.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • Glorious Mundy Nov 5,2012 11:24 am || Up

        Graham has consistently been the guy who talks about standing up the crazies in his party but ends up doing whatever they want ever since he made a big show about how much it pained him to vote for the articles of impeachment against Clinton. He’s a phony until proven otherwise.

        • nevermoor Nov 5,2012 11:27 am || Up
          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • Future Ed Nov 5,2012 11:59 am || Up

            Wait, let me read that a few more times. I might understand it soon.

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
  3. nevermoor Nov 5,2012 11:16 am

    Vote for the white guy!

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • sslinger Nov 5,2012 11:23 am || Up

      Yeah, that’s a pretty good one. I loved the one about Romney’s family having “more people than a Tyler Perry movie”.

  4. sslinger Nov 5,2012 11:21 am
    • Kay Nov 5,2012 4:16 pm || Up

      Pretty scary, although I agree with some of it to a certain extent.

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
  5. MikeV Nov 5,2012 11:30 am

    Bloom Bait (Yay, FLorida.)

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

    • nevermoor Nov 5,2012 11:54 am || Up

      Can anyone think of a reason Democrats want more voting everywhere, and Republicans don’t?

      Anyone?

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • Future Ed Nov 5,2012 12:02 pm || Up

        voting is a special right reserved for those who deservebuy it.

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • ozzman99 Nov 5,2012 12:07 pm || Up

        Because 47% of people just want free stuff from the gov’t, and they all vote for Democrats. We could solve all our problems if we simply restricted voting rights to rich white male property owners.

        • ptbnl Nov 5,2012 12:48 pm || Up

          restricted voting rights to rich white male property owners.

          Just as the founding fathers intended!

          If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
          • ozzman99 Nov 5,2012 12:50 pm || Up

            Exactly! But we also need a college of electors, in case the rich white males vote the wrong way.

  6. Englishmajor Nov 5,2012 12:01 pm

    Less high-profile than Kluwe, but Pioneer Press business reporter Tom Webb (a first-grade classmate of mine) also criticized the editorial, a courageous move since it threatens his primary employment.

  7. ozzman99 Nov 5,2012 12:37 pm

    Somehow, I think there are people here that could use these objects. Just promise that you won’t use them the first item on Witchy.

    • Future Ed Nov 5,2012 12:42 pm || Up

      that’s not real is it?

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • ozzman99 Nov 5,2012 12:50 pm || Up

        Best of Craigslist. Who really knows?

      • Kay Nov 5,2012 4:18 pm || Up

        I would think it is.

        Best guess… some dungeon closed or some kinkster had some bad experiences and decided to re-vanillify and get rid of their toys.

        \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
  8. FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 5,2012 12:57 pm

    Election Eve already? Crap, now I have to figure out who to vote for my AC Transit director!

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • andeux Nov 5,2012 1:02 pm || Up

      I’m voting for the person with green and yellow signs.

      TINSTAAFK
      • batgirl Nov 5,2012 4:09 pm || Up

        If I lived in Albany, I’d vote for this guy based on his yard signs alone!

        • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 5,2012 6:13 pm || Up

          I love that guy’s signs, they make me laugh every time I drive past North Berkeley BART.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 5,2012 6:14 pm || Up

        If anyone is in the BART District that Rebeccas Saltzman is a candidate for, I heartily endorse her, she’s a very solid transportation wonk and a good person. Sadly I’m not in her district, but other Berkeley folks are.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • brian.only Nov 5,2012 7:19 pm || Up

          Me neither, met her during the occupy days, is she still campaigning for longer BART hours?
          Good egg she is!

          • andeux Nov 5,2012 7:34 pm || Up

            She is advocating longer hours. (sslinger asked her that as she was passing out fliers in downtown Berkeley a couple of weeks ago). She has my vote.

            TINSTAAFK
          • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 5,2012 7:36 pm || Up

            Her big issues are modernizing trains and stations, transit-oriented development, and yes, longer weekend hours.

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 5,2012 6:15 pm || Up

        Who are you voting for Berkeley Mayor? I’m reluctantly voting for Bates, which is more a commentary on the weak otehr candidates than it is for his stengths.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • batgirl Nov 5,2012 6:47 pm || Up

          Same here.

        • andeux Nov 5,2012 7:31 pm || Up

          As I think we’ve discussed before I find myself torn on local issues because I think we need more development, but the current pro-development majority seems kind of sleazy.
          I’m voting Worthington for Mayor and No on S, but Yes on T. My sense is that Bates will win again though.

          TINSTAAFK
          • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 5,2012 7:44 pm || Up

            I really wish I had someone to vote for Council instead of Darryl Moore. I don’t like that guy at all. But his opponents are further from my views on issues than he is.

            I also am voting No on S. Enforce the laws we have already.

            I could live with Worthington, moreso than McCormick, who I think is secretly a Randian. But yeah, Bates seems likely to win…it’s not an Oakland/Perata situation where enough people despise Bastes so much that he could lose it in the IRV. I don’t think.

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
            • sslinger Nov 5,2012 8:06 pm || Up

              I basically voted for anyone but Bates.

            • ptbnl Nov 5,2012 10:58 pm || Up

              Where’s “None of the above” when you need it.

              If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
              • Kay Nov 5,2012 11:54 pm || Up

                \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
    • Poppy Nov 5,2012 5:54 pm || Up

      I’ve been puzzling over the relative merits of San Mateo County Harbor District candidates for weeks

      There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 5,2012 6:15 pm || Up

        Write in Jemile!

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • Poppy Nov 5,2012 6:16 pm || Up

          No, he doesn’t look like he’d float very well.

          There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
  9. nobody in particular Nov 5,2012 1:24 pm

    Wait, there’s an erection tomorrow? I’m not sure I can wait that long…

    Never suck on a Blow Pop with the microphone open.
    • nevermoor Nov 5,2012 2:16 pm || Up

      This erection has lasted a lot longer than 24 hours.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • Glorious Mundy Nov 5,2012 2:17 pm || Up

        Sometimes I feel like half the country is sitting in one bathtub, and the other half is sitting in an entirely different bathtub.

        • nevermoor Nov 5,2012 2:28 pm || Up

          If only we could hold hands.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • nobody in particular Nov 5,2012 2:38 pm || Up

            (at least the hands we are not using)

            Never suck on a Blow Pop with the microphone open.
      • brian.only Nov 5,2012 7:21 pm || Up

        See your health care provider and build a small gantry.

  10. Future Ed Nov 5,2012 2:00 pm

    ELECTION OVER!

    “I would have said America wasn’t ready for [a black president],” Lemmy said. “And I don’t think they were, because they’re trying to drag him down now. I mean, the poor fucker’s only just gotten rid of all that George Bush shit that he left, or is trying to. And he’s being stonewalled by the fucking Congress all the time. I don’t know how he’s gotten anything done. They should be glad. I mean the alternative is Mitt Romney. Please, please don’t vote for Mitt Romney. Fuck him. Repeal abortion law is the first thing he’ll do. Fucking monster.”

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • beebo Nov 5,2012 2:12 pm || Up

      Speaking of celebrity endorsements, I wish I could find Lemmy’s Yelp profile. Damn it!

    • doctorK Nov 5,2012 2:13 pm || Up

      And on a similar note, nothing brings out the relics like an election.

    • ozzman99 Nov 5,2012 2:22 pm || Up

      … with MOTÖRHEAD already approaching its tenth anniversary.

      Um, if by tenth, you mean thirty-eighth, then yes.

      • ozzman99 Nov 5,2012 2:23 pm || Up

        I use way too many commas, don’t I?

        • Glorious Mundy Nov 5,2012 2:25 pm || Up

          May, be.

          • ozzman99 Nov 5,2012 2:43 pm || Up

            I type in a William Shatner voice.

            • dmoas Nov 5,2012 2:45 pm || Up

              I don’t know why, but now I want to hear an Indian talk like Kirk. That just seems like it would have awesomeness written all over it.

              • Future Ed Nov 5,2012 2:52 pm || Up

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                I have $5. No I don\'t.
              • ozzman99 Nov 5,2012 2:57 pm || Up

                You know I was born and raised in the Bay Area and have not a trace of an Indian accent, right?

                • dmoas Nov 5,2012 3:03 pm || Up

                  Hence “I don’t know why.” It seriously had nothing to do with you specifically, it was just a weird thought that popped in my head.

                • ozzman99 Nov 5,2012 3:11 pm || Up

                  Surely there’s a FKer with an Indian accent.

    • brian.only Nov 5,2012 7:21 pm || Up

      Nothing like a little fking candor.

  11. MikeV Nov 5,2012 2:17 pm

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

    • Future Ed Nov 5,2012 2:18 pm || Up

      Is that you brandon McCarthy?

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
  12. Jennifer Nov 5,2012 4:00 pm

    I voted two weeks ago. Tomorrow seems sort of anticlimactic.

    • Glorious Mundy Nov 5,2012 4:02 pm || Up

      I love voting on Election Day. I’ll never vote early unless I know I’ll be out of town.

      • Jennifer Nov 5,2012 4:08 pm || Up

        I used to work the election, that’s how much I love it. The variety of people… and seeing little old people who were almost dead coming in just to vote. It made me proud.

        • Glorious Mundy Nov 5,2012 4:15 pm || Up

          I also really love settling in to watch the election returns on TV, and then staying up way into the night to parse every last result.

          • DFA Nov 5,2012 11:42 pm || Up

            in 2000 i fell asleep before it was over and dreamed that dan rather had his eyeball pop out and roll around on his desk when he was about to announce florida.

            In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
            • Glorious Mundy Nov 6,2012 7:02 am || Up

              I pulled an all-nighter on that one.

              • Englishmajor Nov 6,2012 7:59 am || Up

                I had a house guest, a fellow journalist, visiting from China and sleeping on my couch in the room where the TV was. (Obviously way before the days of AT&T U-verse and their poolside wireless TV). I finally went to bed thinking Gore was winning and fell asleep with the radio on. She came in after a while and woke me up to tell me Bush had won. We talked about that for a while, then she went back to the couch and fell asleep and I listened to the radio. Then I went out and woke her up and told her Bush hadn’t won. Eventually we went out to Jack in the Box — how life anticipates the A’s broadcast commercials.

                • Future Ed Nov 6,2012 11:30 am || Up

                  drunk at a bar, depressed when it was called for Bush.

                  Raining heavily, turned on TV when I got home to see Daly say it ain’t over.

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
            • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 6,2012 9:42 am || Up

              My daughter was born in December 2000. She’ll always be able to tell folks she was born a month after Election Day but before we knew who the next Pres. would be.

              "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
              • dmoas Nov 6,2012 10:30 am || Up

                So it’s HER fault.

              • ptbnl Nov 6,2012 3:15 pm || Up

                The morning after the 2004 re-election I was at work semi-seriously looking for places to leave the country for (Barcelona was high on the list, having just opened a new Supercomputer Center) when I got a call from mrs ptbnl to tell me she was pregnant.

                If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
              • Poppy Nov 8,2012 9:02 pm || Up

                Yeah, you should have planned better. /florio

                There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
      • Future Ed Nov 5,2012 5:55 pm || Up

        its too hard for me.

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • sslinger Nov 5,2012 5:59 pm || Up

          I think you meant to make this response up a couple of threads.

    • Kay Nov 5,2012 4:25 pm || Up

      I hate voting, but I’m doing it anyway.

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
      • ozzman99 Nov 5,2012 4:31 pm || Up

        The only thing worse than voting is not voting.

        • Kay Nov 5,2012 5:11 pm || Up

          Hmm… I think that jury duty is worse than voting. And when you sign up for the latter, they usually make you do the former.

          \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
          • Future Ed Nov 5,2012 5:57 pm || Up

            jury duty is fantasatic and I wish I had it every month

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
            • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 5,2012 6:17 pm || Up

              Helps a lot of your employer keeps paying your salary. Mine does; most don’t, though.

              "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
              • Future Ed Nov 5,2012 6:25 pm || Up

                I have no idea if mine does. None of us are getting on a jury anytime soon

                I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • nevermoor Nov 5,2012 6:30 pm || Up

                  I got on one once!

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • Future Ed Nov 5,2012 6:33 pm || Up

                  a DA was one challenge away from accidentally getting me on a jury. there would have been nothing he could do about it. But alas, I was left in the gallery, without being called to the box

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • doctorK Nov 5,2012 7:48 pm || Up

                  I was a foreman in a whiplash case in Iowa. Biggest waste of parts of two weeks in my life.

                • Kylianna Nov 5,2012 11:52 pm || Up

                  Me too! I had a lot of fun, it was very educational. Also, margaritas.

                • ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 7:12 am || Up

                  There’s a “passed the bar, never pass a bar” joke in here somewhere.

                • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 5,2012 6:35 pm || Up

                  I wouldn’t think you’d make it through many voir dires, unless counsel was settling the stage for a later appeal on lawyer incompetence grounds. I’ve never made it past voir dire myself.

                  "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
                • Future Ed Nov 5,2012 6:40 pm || Up

                  FOr the record, I would keep most lawyers on my juries. But have not had the chance.

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • nevermoor Nov 5,2012 7:03 pm || Up

                  Depends upon whether you had the law on your side, yes?

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • Future Ed Nov 5,2012 9:21 pm || Up

                  Jury.Nullification.

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • DFA Nov 5,2012 11:44 pm || Up

                  do you actually use it as an argument?

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • Future Ed Nov 6,2012 11:35 am || Up

                  we are forbidden, which is why it’d be nice to have a lawyer to educate the others on BS cases that we would otherwise lose

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • DFA Nov 7,2012 12:10 am || Up

                  in what way would they explain that?

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • Future Ed Nov 7,2012 12:17 am || Up

                  they may know about it cuz its taught in crim law. so they could tell the other jurors that they could just vote not guilty anyway.

                  One of my trials was a DV case. GUy was being a dick, drunk and yelling at her for over an hour from the bar to home. (he acknowledged that he was an ass) she popped him in the face once. He called the cops. DA won’t let go of case.

                  The crime was complete, all elements met, but it is totally stupid to prosecute her. the only hope was jury nullification. the da knew it turned away 2 lawyers.

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • Englishmajor Nov 7,2012 9:26 am || Up

                  If you’re ever called for jury duty at an inconvenient time and get to voir dire, I’ve found that mentioning a theoretical willingness to make a decision based on the merits of the law rather than the case against this particular defendant will get the people’s thanks and excuse for another year very quickly.

                • dmoas Nov 7,2012 1:58 pm || Up

                  I believe the intent of the law should supersede the direct application of the law. Does that get me off?

                • Future Ed Nov 7,2012 2:08 pm || Up

                  no.

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
                • dmoas Nov 7,2012 2:52 pm || Up

                  I’m… okay with that. Just as long as I don’t become the second fucking alternate again. Complete. Waste. Of. My. Time.

                • Future Ed Nov 7,2012 3:40 pm || Up

                  alternate is the worst job

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • beebo Nov 5,2012 6:02 pm || Up

            My polling place tomorrow is probably going to be powered by diesel generators, and it will very likely be below freezing in the morning, too. Things could be worse.

            • dmoas Nov 5,2012 6:11 pm || Up

              Do you at least have power yourself? A friend of mine’s parents live in an area still without power.

              • beebo Nov 5,2012 6:20 pm || Up

                I do, thankfully. We were hosting some neighbors who didn’t until pretty recently, and there are still weird pockets of places that aren’t back up yet.

          • ozzman99 Nov 5,2012 6:32 pm || Up

            I’ve been called for jury duty a few times, but I’ve never had to serve. I want to, though.

          • ptbnl Nov 5,2012 11:01 pm || Up

            Not allowed to vote (despite the taxation).

            Summoned for jury service every month (despite being ineligible).

            If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • Kylianna Nov 5,2012 5:06 pm || Up

      Me too. Fuck yeah absentee voting!

      I wish they sent stickers with the ballots, though. :(

    • Poppy Nov 5,2012 6:01 pm || Up

      I use an absentee ballot, but I don’t mail it… I drop it off at the County election office so I can at least sort of “go vote.” Mailing it is too much like just paying a bill or something, a chore rather than a privilege. I miss the old-school voting booths with levers and knobs and stuff.

      There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
      • Glorious Mundy Nov 5,2012 6:02 pm || Up

        Yes! I only voted on that type of machine once, but it was so satisfying!

        • Poppy Nov 5,2012 6:18 pm || Up

          Yeah, me too… and it was for Mondale, so the machine was the most exciting thing about that whole election for me.

          There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
      • whimsical witch Nov 5,2012 6:05 pm || Up

        since we moved to the east bay, we usually do absentee and then drop off the ballot at our polling place a block away on election day. with mercury going into retrograde tomorrow, though, this year we mailed them in.

        • beebo Nov 5,2012 6:07 pm || Up

          with mercury going into retrograde tomorrow

          Oh, fuck.

          • whimsical witch Nov 5,2012 6:14 pm || Up

            until 11/26 this time, although the “shadow” has been in effect for the past few days and will extend after the 26th.

            and us in the middle of our mortgage refi. :(

            • ozzman99 Nov 5,2012 6:16 pm || Up

              11/26 is a good date, though. It’s my sister’s birthday. :)

              • whimsical witch Nov 5,2012 6:24 pm || Up

                happy early birthday to ozzie-sis!

              • 5Aces Nov 6,2012 8:49 am || Up

                The eldest Ace turns 16 on 11/26. If you come to Fresno officially stay off the sidewalks because he is starting to learn how to drive. The baby Ace is turning 7 on the 16th as well. November is always a cluster for us.

                Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
                • whimsical witch Nov 6,2012 11:16 am || Up

                  wow! birthday month at your house! happy happy to your kiddos. :D

                • ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 12:07 pm || Up

                  So now there are 2 reasons to avoid Fresno. The other being that it’s Fresno.

            • 5Aces Nov 6,2012 8:48 am || Up

              First morning in and the girls are already fighting. Ugh. And talk about changes-Mrs. Aces is having her first appearance on a “big” (not just local station) show on Thursday and she is going to miss it because she is taping another. Change indeed…

              Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
      • DFA Nov 5,2012 11:45 pm || Up

        this is me

        In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
  13. Glorious Mundy Nov 5,2012 5:09 pm

    FKquiz: If Obama wins tomorrow, he will be the third straight incumbent POTUS to win reelection. That’s only happened once before. Who were the three presidents the other time it happened?

    • Kay Nov 5,2012 5:16 pm || Up

      Washington, Adams, Jefferson?

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
    • oblique Nov 5,2012 5:22 pm || Up

      FDR, FDR and FDR?

      • Kay Nov 5,2012 5:23 pm || Up

        Brilliant!

        \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
      • Glorious Mundy Nov 5,2012 5:27 pm || Up

        Heh

      • ptbnl Nov 5,2012 11:02 pm || Up

        You’re one incumbent short.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
    • Glorious Mundy Nov 5,2012 5:34 pm || Up

      Wait, I’m amending this. This would be only the second time that three straight *elected* incumbent presidents have won reelection. Meaning, it only counts if all three presidents were elected, and then reelected, president.

      • harensheir15 Nov 5,2012 6:03 pm || Up

        Jefferson, Madison, Monroe?

        • Glorious Mundy Nov 5,2012 6:04 pm || Up

          Nailed it.

          • harensheir15 Nov 5,2012 6:15 pm || Up

            Woo hoo!

            We committed this to memory in AP US History. Pretty sure I can still recite it.

            • Glorious Mundy Nov 5,2012 6:17 pm || Up

              That’s awesome! I’m totally showing that to my kids tonight.

              • harensheir15 Nov 5,2012 6:37 pm || Up

                Yep!

                “Ulysses Simpson Grant, he would scream and rave and rant!
                Drinking whiskey although risky, ’cause he would spill it on his pants!”

                The proctor at the AP exam had to ask people several times to please stop giggling.

        • harensheir15 Nov 5,2012 6:05 pm || Up

          Whoops. Forgot spoiler code.

          • dmoas Nov 5,2012 6:13 pm || Up

            I spoilified it for you.

          • Glorious Mundy Nov 5,2012 6:13 pm || Up

            OK, but which other run of three presidents would have fit my question had I not amended it?

            • ozzman99 Nov 5,2012 6:17 pm || Up

              What I posted upthread? And if I’m right, can you spoilify it?

              • Glorious Mundy Nov 5,2012 6:20 pm || Up

                Nope, sorry.

                A. Johnson was never elected even once, and there were a couple of other dudes between Taylor and Lincoln.

                • ozzman99 Nov 5,2012 6:25 pm || Up

                  Huh.

                  Don’t know why I thought Taylor was right before Lincoln. Or why I was sure that Johnson won in 1868.

                  I guess getting that history degree was kind of a waste of time.

            • harensheir15 Nov 5,2012 6:33 pm || Up

              Gotta be assassinations or impeachments.

              Would LBJ, Nixon, Ford count?

              • Glorious Mundy Nov 5,2012 6:35 pm || Up

                Nope. Ford was never elected. Not even as VP!

              • ozzman99 Nov 5,2012 6:39 pm || Up

                Ford was never elected.

    • Future Ed Nov 5,2012 5:58 pm || Up

      Post civil war starting with grant?

      DOn’t know the order

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • Glorious Mundy Nov 5,2012 6:01 pm || Up

        Nope. Grant was followed by four straight losers.

        • Future Ed Nov 5,2012 6:06 pm || Up

          he kinda was one himself. I just looked it up. Interesting

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • Glorious Mundy Nov 5,2012 6:15 pm || Up

            I never knew he tried for a third term. Fascinating.

    • doctorK Nov 5,2012 7:50 pm || Up

      FDR, Truman, Ike

      • Glorious Mundy Nov 5,2012 7:51 pm || Up

        One of two correct answers to my question as originally worded.

      • doctorK Nov 5,2012 7:52 pm || Up

        Oops – didn’t look up-thread first.

  14. Glorious Mundy Nov 5,2012 6:07 pm
    • beebo Nov 5,2012 6:22 pm || Up

      A troll we can believe in!

      • Poppy Nov 5,2012 6:26 pm || Up

        Gotta love her prioritization of issues. And sassy use of leopard print.

        There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
        • beebo Nov 5,2012 6:30 pm || Up

          Her position statement on abortion (and the accompanying picture) is just brilliantly vague enough to be cause for concern.

          • Poppy Nov 5,2012 6:32 pm || Up

            “there are many couples who are longing to provide a warm and loving home for these children through adoption” tells me everything I need to know about her position on abortion.

            There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
          • ozzman99 Nov 5,2012 6:40 pm || Up

            I like the bow and arrow photo accompanying her stance on poverty. And the Hunger Games reference. I have serious questions about her ability to differentiate between reality and fantasy.

            • nobody in particular Nov 5,2012 7:41 pm || Up

              I have serious questions about her ability to differentiate between reality and fantasy.

              I don’t think there’s any question at all. And she is just one in 300 million.

              Never suck on a Blow Pop with the microphone open.
      • Dial C for Concupiscence Nov 5,2012 6:29 pm || Up

        “I ‘Pink’ I can!”

        I’m glad we can always count on the NY Post for hard-hitting headlines.

        • Glorious Mundy Nov 5,2012 6:31 pm || Up
          • beebo Nov 5,2012 6:33 pm || Up

            Quoth Salon:

            Do we really need more tiresomely uncultured Ayn Randy dorks clogging up our politics like a ball of cotton/poly blends and fast food wrappers soaked in off-brand Axe body spray? No, we do not!

            • nevermoor Nov 5,2012 7:04 pm || Up

              #sorryslate

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • whimsical witch Nov 5,2012 6:35 pm || Up

          teehee.

    • brian.only Nov 5,2012 7:26 pm || Up

      Wow I thought Chicago as a font was dead.

  15. harensheir15 Nov 5,2012 6:51 pm

    I miss bed. ElCroata mentioned Wag the Dog the other day. So, here are your Top 10 political movies.

    10. Bob Roberts
    9. American President
    8. In the Loop
    7. Bulworth
    6. Election
    5. All the President’s Men
    4. JFK
    3. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington
    2. The Candidate
    1. Wag the Dog

    • harensheir15 Nov 5,2012 6:53 pm || Up

      Gandhi and Butterfly for foreign political movies. Tons of those I haven’t seen yet.

    • whimsical witch Nov 5,2012 6:53 pm || Up

      i miss bed, too. my grammy broke her hip the same day his dad did. weirdness.

      • ozzman99 Nov 5,2012 8:45 pm || Up

        What if they’re the same person???

        • whimsical witch Nov 5,2012 9:02 pm || Up

          i hope my 90 year old grammy is not bed’s dad. that would just be too messed up.

          • ozzman99 Nov 5,2012 9:17 pm || Up

            And oddly, not surprising given this crowd.

      • harensheir15 Nov 6,2012 12:20 am || Up

        At 92, my grandad had no significant ailments. Other than age-related vision and hearing loss, he was in perfect health. One morning, as he did every morning for 38 years, he went out to the veranda to sit in sunlight on a large wooden swing we had there. As he moved to sit down, the swing got pushed back and he crashed to the floor. Broken hip bone. Died a day and a half later.

        • ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 7:14 am || Up

          What a terribly sad story to start the day. I’m so sorry.

        • elcroata Nov 6,2012 7:29 am || Up

          Wow. Sorry to hear that, although I’m glad he enjoyed good health for more than 90 years

          Because survival is insufficient
    • WaddellCanseco Nov 5,2012 8:03 pm || Up

      Mr. Smith Goes to Waahington is probably my favorite political movie. Others that I really liked:

      Potemkin
      Rules of the Game
      Rome, Open City
      Throne of Blood
      The Great Dictator
      Bicycle Thieves
      All the King’s Men
      Los Olivdados
      The Birth of a Nation
      Triumph of the Will
      A City of Sadness
      A Brighter Summer Day
      Godzilla
      The Eel
      Death by Hanging
      Paper Flowers

      Now that I think about it maybe they were all really good and maybe as good or better than Mr Smith Goes to Washington

      • nevermoor Nov 5,2012 8:11 pm || Up

        The problem with Mr. Smith is that it still makes people think fillibustering is noble.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • andeux Nov 5,2012 8:36 pm || Up

          And that Jimmy Stewart was a terrible actor.

          TINSTAAFK
        • WaddellCanseco Nov 5,2012 9:25 pm || Up

          Anybody who doesn’t give up and roll over for the Taylor machine is noble. The precise tool is neither noble or non-noble.

      • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 5,2012 8:13 pm || Up

        Also Dr. Strangelove and Reds. And King of Hearts.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • nobody in particular Nov 5,2012 8:16 pm || Up

        A favorite and, along with The Manchurian Candidate from the same time period, in many ways the mother of all political-intrigue-and-conspiratorial-assassination films, The Seven Days In May from 1964.

        Never suck on a Blow Pop with the microphone open.
        • nobody in particular Nov 5,2012 8:19 pm || Up

          (of course both directed by John Frankenheimer)

          Never suck on a Blow Pop with the microphone open.
        • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 5,2012 8:22 pm || Up

          Love Seven Days in May. Burt Lancaster makes a fantastic would-be coup leader general.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • harensheir15 Nov 6,2012 12:26 am || Up

            Excellent subthread, people.
            I am surprised I haven’t seen Dr. Strangelove yet.

            • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 6,2012 9:43 am || Up

              Look up!

              "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
              • oblique Nov 6,2012 9:54 am || Up

                (a piano falls on you, and you die. game over.)

            • sslinger Nov 6,2012 10:19 am || Up

              They’re talking about this very thing on Forum now.

      • dmoas Nov 5,2012 9:03 pm || Up

        Godzilla?

        • WaddellCanseco Nov 5,2012 9:17 pm || Up

          Metaphor for the atomic bomb

          • dmoas Nov 5,2012 9:48 pm || Up

            Well shit. If we’re going metaphor that adds in everything for Star Wars to Star Trek.

          • beebo Nov 6,2012 4:06 am || Up

            Not just a metaphor for the atomic bomb, actually. I’d argue it’s more of a “sins of the past” type of message. (I’m not talking about the version with Raymond Burr)

        • ozzman99 Nov 5,2012 9:17 pm || Up

          Oh no, there goes Tokyo.

      • harensheir15 Nov 6,2012 12:22 am || Up

        Rules of the Game, The Birth of a Nation and A Brighter Summer Day are in Netflix queue. Will check out the others. Thanks!

        Oooh, forgot to mention Gettysburg!

        • harensheir15 Nov 6,2012 1:21 am || Up

          This is why I’m no good with lists.

          Duck Soup.

    • andeux Nov 5,2012 8:36 pm || Up

      Z.
      Also Bob Roberts.

      TINSTAAFK
    • Future Ed Nov 5,2012 9:22 pm || Up

      missing roger rabbit

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • elcroata Nov 6,2012 12:23 am || Up

      Great, five new ones to see

      Because survival is insufficient
  16. whimsical witch Nov 5,2012 7:05 pm

    how do people send spam email to me where it looks like it is from my own email address?

    • nevermoor Nov 5,2012 7:42 pm || Up

      Email headers (which your email reader parses to display that information) are just text, and therefore trivially easy to manipulate.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • whimsical witch Nov 5,2012 7:51 pm || Up

        thank you.
        it is VERY ANNOYING. >:{

    • WaddellCanseco Nov 5,2012 8:04 pm || Up

      You just have to change the “From” before you “Send”

  17. Glorious Mundy Nov 5,2012 7:07 pm
    • beebo Nov 5,2012 7:23 pm || Up

      My favorite, hands down.

      • Glorious Mundy Nov 5,2012 7:23 pm || Up

        Oh my god.

      • Poppy Nov 5,2012 8:06 pm || Up

        Oh, but what about this one? Is that a unicorn?

        There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
        • beebo Nov 5,2012 8:08 pm || Up

          Holy shit, I did not see that one. And now I can’t un-see it.

          • Poppy Nov 5,2012 8:13 pm || Up

            I almost didn’t see it, either. I’d gotten so many repeats that I’d decided I’d seen them all and was about to close the window when that one came up in all its… uh… glory?

            There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
            • Glorious Mundy Nov 5,2012 8:16 pm || Up

              He looks like he’s about to sing the world’s sexiest slow jam.

            • beebo Nov 5,2012 8:16 pm || Up

              That made my night.

        • Glorious Mundy Nov 5,2012 8:11 pm || Up

          I’m dying…

      • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 5,2012 8:14 pm || Up

        Chones!

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • doctorK Nov 5,2012 7:57 pm || Up

      Wow – those are FKing hilarious.

  18. WaddellCanseco Nov 5,2012 8:05 pm

    I’m getting the impression that Romney doesn’t have a good shot to win California.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 5,2012 8:17 pm || Up

      Hugh Romney, maybe.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • nevermoor Nov 5,2012 8:36 pm || Up

      THAT’S BECAUSE YOU AREN’T USING UNSKEWED UNSKEWED POLLS

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • ozzman99 Nov 5,2012 8:46 pm || Up

      That’s because California is full of crazy liberals. Damn you all with your thinking and stuff.

    • dmoas Nov 5,2012 9:09 pm || Up

      I’ve seen significantly more signage for Romney here. And some creepy guy carrying a sign with 2 giant flags atop it walking around.

  19. Glorious Mundy Nov 5,2012 8:10 pm

    The fellows at W.F. Buckley’s old place are really letting their freak flag fly on Election Eve.

    In retrospect, of course, William Jefferson Blythe III was Pericles of Athens compared to Barack Obama, who far more than Clinton has revealed the true face of contemporary American left-liberalism in all its coercive ugliness: a blizzard of executive orders; the deployment of the regulatory agencies that have (in the words of the Declaration of Independence) “sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance”; and the naked Marxist appeals to race and class envy. The most anti-American of American presidents has run the most un-American of campaigns.

    And that, by rights, should be it. That it’s not explains the alarm of conservatives whose view of patriotism is that they love their country as it is, not as they wish it might someday be. From Day One of the Obama administration, real conservatives understood the explicit threat of “fundamental change,” whose meaning can now be clearly discerned in Obama’s “revenge” remark; for the Left, “revenge” is precisely what this election is all about. For them and their voting-bloc constituents, it’s payback time: payback for slavery and segregation; payback for poverty; payback for foreign wars; payback for restrictive immigration laws. They’ve long used the goals of the civil-rights movement — which after all was directed precisely against Democrats – and the Vietnam-era “anti-war” movement — which arose in opposition to the foreign policy of the Democrats — as wedges with which to crack the larger social structure and now, so close to realizing the ultimate expression of “critical theory” — that everything about America stinks — they and their media allies are doing their best to swing one last election for Obama.

    • nevermoor Nov 5,2012 8:15 pm || Up

      Yeah, the East Coast is really pissed off about the swarms of FEMA officers. Not like those lucky duckies in NO who got to live life swarmless.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • Poppy Nov 5,2012 8:16 pm || Up

      Wut.

      There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
      • Glorious Mundy Nov 5,2012 8:18 pm || Up

        This sentence really sums up a great deal of my problem with American Conservatism:

        That it’s not explains the alarm of conservatives whose view of patriotism is that they love their country as it is, not as they wish it might someday be.

        Love the status quo or GTFO.

        • nobody in particular Nov 5,2012 8:43 pm || Up

          The central belief is an almost total, preternatural loathing for the empowerment of other people not in the tribe. These are the perfect children of the “free market” god they worship absolutely, in that in their minds the whole of the social construct must be universally and entirely emphatic of competition, and the idea that competition between people and interests must take place even if the mechanisms of that conflict are certain to bring about the demise of the social construct itself… they don’t care.

          They want the system to be right and the numbers to always match (“balance the budget”) and the people who are at the bottom of the system to stay there because intuitively they know they are slaves of the system and can see no other means of noting that fact than to push the system and its supremacy on everyone and everything at a greater and greater volume and intensity, like the child who repeats the lie even more insistently when their misbehavior is discovered.

          That, and numbers don’t fight back, they just sit on the page and do what you manipulate them to do. Human beings are harder and more complex and the rightwingers can’t deal with nuance and detail because it is upon examination of the details of their arguments that you can discern that the bulk of it is infantile, delusional disinformationist lies. Plus, nuance and relativism between situations does not play in their fantasy, wherein John Wayne rides into town and kills all the heathens, injuns, n*ggers and whatever so-and-sos happen to be hanging out… then the treacly music plays and the hero gets the girl, always on top and in separate beds.

          Fuck all that, you know what? There’s only one simple word and that word is sociopath.

          Never suck on a Blow Pop with the microphone open.
        • Englishmajor Nov 5,2012 8:46 pm || Up

          They don’t even love their country as it is, only the little bit of it they’re familiar with.

          • ozzman99 Nov 5,2012 8:52 pm || Up

            Actually, they love it as they imagine it to be, not as it is.

          • nobody in particular Nov 5,2012 8:52 pm || Up

            revealed the true face of contemporary American left-liberalism in all its coercive ugliness

            yes, because there is positively NOTHING coercive or ugly about the rightwing conservative movement in this country.

            Never suck on a Blow Pop with the microphone open.
    • beebo Nov 5,2012 8:24 pm || Up

      A swipe at the Frankfurt School! That’s a new one.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 5,2012 8:27 pm || Up

      That’s flat-out delusional. It boggles my mind (and regularly makes me DFWAS) that so many people believe shit like that, stuff that’s every bit as untethered from reality as the rantings of your average street loony.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Glorious Mundy Nov 5,2012 9:41 pm || Up

        I’m kind of surprised it’s not in all caps.

      • dmoas Nov 5,2012 9:43 pm || Up

        And these psychos think the fking GOP is TOO liberal. *THAT* scares the FUCK out of me.

        • DFA Nov 6,2012 7:12 am || Up

          this

          In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
          • Kay Nov 6,2012 7:39 am || Up

            Now we’re getting back to the territory of that conversation we agreed to have in person.

            \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
        • ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 7:21 am || Up

          For that matter, they think there’s something wrong with people who aren’t as paranoid as they are. And they like guns.

    • nobody in particular Nov 5,2012 8:30 pm || Up

      Insanity laughs, under pressure we’re breaking…

      Never suck on a Blow Pop with the microphone open.
    • ozzman99 Nov 5,2012 8:49 pm || Up

      I don’t know about you guys, but I enjoy a good work of fiction. This, sadly, is not good.

    • lenscrafters Nov 5,2012 9:12 pm || Up

      I am sad.

    • harensheir15 Nov 6,2012 12:37 am || Up

      In Audacity, the president wrote that politics is a game played “between the forty yard lines.”
      I really want someone to ask him if he still thinks that’s true.

  20. Future Ed Nov 5,2012 9:30 pm

    Uh oh, is Jerry turing into a 1%er?

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • ozzman99 Nov 5,2012 9:36 pm || Up

      Vote for Obama and go see the play.

      • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 5,2012 9:41 pm || Up

        Hell, he’s already in Oakland…take a class!

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • dmoas Nov 5,2012 9:57 pm || Up

        Was he referring to his political career melting into a pot?

        • ozzman99 Nov 5,2012 10:03 pm || Up

          I’m surprised Romney even knows the word. It’s all sciencey and shit.

  21. Glorious Mundy Nov 5,2012 9:44 pm

    I need one of you FKers to tell me how to vote on all of these SF ballot measures.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 5,2012 9:55 pm || Up

      Sorry, I only do East Bay. But we may share a BART District, bizarrely.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Glorious Mundy Nov 6,2012 7:06 am || Up

        I’m in District 9

        • Kay Nov 6,2012 7:40 am || Up

          Are you voting for the humans or non-humans?

          \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
        • dmoas Nov 6,2012 8:43 am || Up

          Good political movie.

    • Glorious Mundy Nov 6,2012 7:06 am || Up

      There’s a measure trying to symbolically overrule Citizens United. I wish they wouldn’t waste my time like this.

    • DFA Nov 6,2012 7:08 am || Up

      Yes on everything except for F

      this is consensus across the political spectrum

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
      • Glorious Mundy Nov 6,2012 7:12 am || Up

        Consensus across the political spectrum of SF doesn’t really close the deal for me.

        So far I’m No on F and G. I’m sure that some of these tax/bond measures are a bad idea, but I’m not sure which ones.

        • DFA Nov 6,2012 7:34 am || Up

          if one is its b

          but i like parks

          also G you should vote yes on. its symbolic but its helpful for the national movement to undo Citizens united when citys and states take these kinds of votes
          `

          In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
          • Glorious Mundy Nov 6,2012 10:00 am || Up

            Meh. I voted no. I think that sort of measure is pretty silly, and I’m not a huge fan of campaign finance restrictions in general.

  22. MikeV Nov 5,2012 10:11 pm
    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

    • brian.only Nov 5,2012 11:52 pm || Up

      Koch-funded American Legislative Exchange Council

      Roll that one around a few times – now that’s candor.

      • brian.only Nov 5,2012 11:53 pm || Up

        Can someone re-format this one for me?

    • elcroata Nov 6,2012 12:47 am || Up

      Sounds both plausible and scary

      Because survival is insufficient
    • Kay Nov 6,2012 7:42 am || Up

      I was pretty much sold on this idea right after 2000 and figured the fix was in.

      What surprises me is that 12 years later we haven’t had the Apocalypse yet.

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
    • Kay Nov 6,2012 8:00 am || Up

      Another article on the same topic

      It’s my personal belief that liberals who think that American elections are clean paragons of above-board democracy are just as deluded as conservatives who think immigrants and the government are out to take their guns and rape their wives.

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
      • nevermoor Nov 6,2012 9:42 am || Up

        Agreed. Especially since it would be trivially easy to provide securely verifiable voting

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 6,2012 9:46 am || Up

      Yeah, this is terrifying, both because it’s so plausible (given the super-wealthy powers behind the voting machines), but also because it puts skeptics in the bad position of sounding insane and/or threatening to unravel American democracy when they protest.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • sslinger Nov 6,2012 9:51 am || Up
      • ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 12:09 pm || Up

        Because right wingers don’t sounds insane and threatening already? But of course, there’s acceptable crazy and unacceptable crazy in America.

        • Kay Nov 6,2012 1:18 pm || Up

          and it’s all unraveling into a pile of mixed crazy.

          \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
  23. Kylianna Nov 5,2012 11:56 pm

    If you are on twitter and enjoy Lovecraft, you should be watching the #RomneyDeathRally hashtag right now, because it is FKing hilarious.

    • ptbnl Nov 6,2012 12:29 am || Up

      Trump’s hairpiece grows. It seethes. It demands. We comply. Our birth certificates. Our school transcripts. Our souls.

      #RomneyDeathRally

      If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
  24. elcroata Nov 5,2012 11:57 pm

    Statistics can’t replace good writing, but it can expose the bad

    excellent

    Because survival is insufficient
  25. DFA Nov 6,2012 12:12 am

    Predictions for tomorrow:
    Obama 52.5 to Romney 46.7
    Obama 332 EV to 206 Romney

    Senate Democratic Pick Ups:
    Maine
    Massachusetts
    Indiana
    Nevada

    Losses
    Nebraska
    North Dakota
    Montana

    House

    D 204 R 231

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
    • nevermoor Nov 6,2012 12:38 am || Up

      I’ll go with Obama +2 nationally, and 284 EVs (losing FL/VA/NC). I’m a bit more bullish about picking up one of MO/NE. I have no fking idea about the house.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • nevermoor Nov 6,2012 12:39 am || Up

        Math fail. That’s 290.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • dmoas Nov 6,2012 8:46 am || Up

          That’s about where I see it too. Though I think the national will be within +/- 1%.

      • Glorious Mundy Nov 6,2012 7:08 am || Up

        MO has a D incumbent.

        • DFA Nov 6,2012 7:36 am || Up

          This.

          In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
          • nevermoor Nov 6,2012 8:01 am || Up

            Sorry, meant Montana

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
            • Glorious Mundy Nov 6,2012 8:02 am || Up

              Also a D incumbent!

              • nevermoor Nov 6,2012 9:42 am || Up

                Sure, but DFA is saying we lose both. I’m saying maybe only one.

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • DFA Nov 7,2012 12:15 am || Up

                  I said we would only lose one and I was wrong. Tester is going to win

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • Glorious Mundy Nov 7,2012 9:36 am || Up

                  Told ya.

                • nevermoor Nov 7,2012 10:17 am || Up

                  Did you? I thought you said we were gonna lose NE/ND/MT, and I was saying I saw a win in there.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • DFA Nov 6,2012 7:39 am || Up

        If he picks up NE you owe me a beer btw.

        I how ever think I will end up buying. Paul made the race incredibly close for the environment

        In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
        • Glorious Mundy Nov 6,2012 7:59 am || Up

          If Kerrey wins should we credit Hagel for rigging the vote machines for him?

    • harensheir15 Nov 6,2012 1:11 am || Up

      Huh. You think he wins Florida? I don’t know.
      I wish we didn’t have to rely on Ohio either even though it looks probable. Good news is, there’s been significant movement for Obama in Virginia the last few days. So if that breaks right, Virginia, Neveda, Iowa and Wisconsin get him over to 278. I’ll say 305.

      I think popular vote comes in within 2.5 points. New York, New Jersey and Connecticut are anticipating difficulties voting for a good chunk of people in storm-damaged places. Plus, the less-than-08 excitement in California, Washington etc. combined with the burning redness of red states makes it closer.

      Isn’t Angus King up in the air? Although looking at his platform, I don’t see how GOP lets him caucus with them. Nevada and Montana are interesting. In Nevada, polling isn’t favorable but fundamentals are. Opposite for Montana. I’ll go with you there.

    • Glorious Mundy Nov 6,2012 7:05 am || Up

      I say the Democrats keep Montana and don’t get Nevada. North Dakota could go either way.

      • DFA Nov 6,2012 7:42 am || Up

        That is certainly possible. Nevada has a latino vote that is historically under sampled in polls. If there is a state where polling bias exists I would say it is nevada.

        North Dakota’s red enough that it will mean that most of the undies will lean that way.

        In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
        • Glorious Mundy Nov 6,2012 8:00 am || Up

          True, but Berkley is not popular and has run well behind Obama. It will be very close even if Obama winds the state by 5 or 6 points.

        • Englishmajor Nov 6,2012 8:02 am || Up

          Heidi Heitkamp is a very appealing candidate, though.

    • ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 7:19 am || Up

      Brown beats Warren by photoshopping himself into Magic Mike and then airing at legally close to polling stations as possible, thereby winning the women’s vote.

    • Glorious Mundy Nov 6,2012 7:23 am || Up

      I say 308 EVs for Obama. He gets NC but loses FL.

      • Glorious Mundy Nov 6,2012 8:03 am || Up

        Make it 312. I forgot about New Hampshire.

  26. ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 7:30 am

    FWIW, realclearpolitics.com has Obama with a 0.7% edge in the popular vote. Slim, but it was 0.1% 2 days ago, and he was behind Romney a week ago. If all of the toss-up states break the way they’re polling, Obama gets 303 EV.

  27. JamesV Nov 6,2012 8:03 am

    GAMING ALERT

    It’s funny how bad the graphics on the Wii version of Okami (PS2’s not hooked up to the main TV to compare) look when put up against Okami HD on the PS3. These are just cameraphone pics:

    END GAMING ALERT

    • Kay Nov 6,2012 10:33 am || Up

      Let me know when somebody makes a sandbox environment game with access to the interiors of EVERY building and infrastructure piece, including an extensive underground sewer and tunnel network, as well as caves.

      What I want is a full Google Earth datapack with fully rendered interiors as the blank sandbox slate to lay sandbox games on top of.

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
      • JamesV Nov 6,2012 10:41 am || Up

        That would be pretty sick.

        Now a part of me is wishing I had a more upgraded PC:

        http://kotaku.com/5866481/how-to-play-wii-games-in-high-definition-on-your-pc

      • MikeV Nov 6,2012 10:52 am || Up

        I think you just sorta described Minecraft

        And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

        Thanks, and go As.

        • Kay Nov 6,2012 1:19 pm || Up

          Not really what I was thinking, but I do plan on playing that game someday if/when I upgrade my computer.

          \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
  28. MikeV Nov 6,2012 9:03 am
    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

    • nevermoor Nov 6,2012 9:43 am || Up

      Heh, my company’s internet filter blocks that.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • colin Nov 6,2012 8:46 pm || Up

        US Antarctic Program blocks it too.

        • ptbnl Nov 6,2012 9:06 pm || Up

          Glad you made it safe and sound.

          If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
          • Kay Nov 6,2012 9:17 pm || Up

            Me too!

            \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
          • colin Nov 6,2012 11:03 pm || Up

            Well, almost. I’ve been stuck in McMurdo for two days straight because of mechanical problems for pretty much all of the Hercs. I spent all day at the airfield today, got in the plane three times, and even took off twice. The furthest we got was about 15 minutes flight out from McMurdo. But I’m hanging out with a bunch of SPT folks who are similarly stranded. Also, the EBEx crew is in full effect here.

            • ptbnl Nov 6,2012 11:14 pm || Up

              Say hi from me … I’m keeping the processors warm for them.

              If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
        • beebo Nov 6,2012 9:15 pm || Up

          “Stop everything!! We have to wait for all the Antarctica votes!!”

          • colin Nov 6,2012 11:04 pm || Up

            I saw a sign up saying that any envelopes marked “Official Ballot” would get express mailed free of charge from Christchurch.

  29. sslinger Nov 6,2012 9:52 am
    • Kay Nov 6,2012 10:34 am || Up

      I’ll either read it later while crying or ignore it altogether in triumph.

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
  30. Glorious Mundy Nov 6,2012 9:55 am

    Was not expecting to see a Roseanne Barr/Cindy Sheehan presidential ticket on my ballot.

  31. beebo Nov 6,2012 9:59 am

    Local cat craps in box, decides fate of the free world.

  32. Glorious Mundy Nov 6,2012 10:10 am
    • nevermoor Nov 6,2012 10:27 am || Up

      Planet “white male voter” primarily

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • Glorious Mundy Nov 6,2012 10:29 am || Up

        I know this makes me sound naive, but the naked appeals to racism from the right wing media are genuinely alarming to me.

        • Dial C for Concupiscence Nov 6,2012 10:43 am || Up

          They didn’t slow their speech for a second when the guy very politely held the door open for the two old ladies.

          • elcroata Nov 6,2012 11:08 am || Up

            It’s all part of THEIR plan

            Because survival is insufficient
      • Future Ed Nov 6,2012 11:50 am || Up

        right, and we are to assume that this part of Philadelphia is a predominantly black neighborhood? So, the presence of an elderly black man is going to intimidate, who?

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 12:33 pm || Up

        Or Planet “Black People Scare Me.”

        • beebo Nov 6,2012 12:37 pm || Up

        • dmoas Nov 6,2012 12:38 pm || Up

          They do!! They remind me of of of when I was growing up an’ an’ and a neighbor of mine got stuck under his garage door when it was going down. And I still remember hearing his cries. Have you never heard a child cry out in pain, Oz? It’s SCARY!!!

          • ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 12:47 pm || Up

            I’m scared of chihuahuas. They bark and growl a lot, and I’m afraid they’ll bite me. My ankles are very sensitive.

    • beebo Nov 6,2012 12:31 pm || Up

      Wait, is this clip from this morning, or from the 2008 election?

      • JamesV Nov 6,2012 12:33 pm || Up

        Look at the crawl in the video.

      • beebo Nov 6,2012 12:36 pm || Up

        Nevermind, I missed this tidbit from Dylan Byers earlier.

  33. Glorious Mundy Nov 6,2012 11:21 am
  34. elcroata Nov 6,2012 12:08 pm

    You can always count on Christian Science Monitor to remain unbiased when offering multiple choice answers on Obama quiz

    Because survival is insufficient
    • beebo Nov 6,2012 12:22 pm || Up

      All of the above, obviously!

      • dmoas Nov 6,2012 12:23 pm || Up

        Such Cristian Science Monitor liberal BULLSHIT that they didn’t give that as an option.

    • Future Ed Nov 6,2012 12:25 pm || Up

      That has traditionally been a very very good paper. I wonder if that is trolling, which also seems out of character.

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • andeux Nov 6,2012 1:11 pm || Up

        It’s a plant by Obama. People who answer (d) will be rounded up and sent to UN concentration camps.

        TINSTAAFK
        • beebo Nov 6,2012 1:19 pm || Up

          I thought Haliburton operated those?

        • Kay Nov 6,2012 1:21 pm || Up

          In the immortal words of Stacy Keach in Cannonball Run, “Goddamn I hope so. It’ll give me an excuse.”

          \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
    • doctorK Nov 6,2012 1:13 pm || Up

      There is a stupid answer on each one (example: for the one about which dog the Obama’s settled on, one of the answers is “Pit bull, to keep the reporters away from Sasha and Malia”). I doubt there is any intent to troll or push people in a specific direction on this quiz. BTW, full link here, and I got 13/20.

      • Glorious Mundy Nov 6,2012 1:21 pm || Up

        A couple of the others have one wacky choice, but not all of them. I’d say this one is pretty close to trolling tea partiers. (16/20 BTW)

      • oblique Nov 6,2012 1:26 pm || Up

        I also got 13/20, in an awesome surge after only getting 5 of the first 10.

        • PDXAthleticsfan Nov 6,2012 1:40 pm || Up

          The second half (the back 10?) was much easier. I ended up with 6 of the first 10, then running the last 10 to equal GM’s score.

          A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
        • colin Nov 6,2012 11:21 pm || Up

          Me too, though it felt like I got lucky on some guesses.

      • sslinger Nov 6,2012 2:03 pm || Up

        14 here.

        Speaking of surveys, did anyone do the one I linked in the intro? It was weird but kind of interesting to go through.

        • PDXAthleticsfan Nov 6,2012 2:09 pm || Up

          I went though it and it definitely made me think about what my answers said about my values. I was hoping it would give me some sort of judgment about who I am at the end, “Based on your answers, you have a tendency toward avoiding personal responsibility and lack creativity of any sort. You may want to consider listening to the audio book of the Seven Habits of Effective People while taking up knitting.”

          A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
          • ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 2:15 pm || Up

            That sums up my experience with it as well.

          • sslinger Nov 6,2012 2:26 pm || Up

            Yeah, it did make me wonder why I picked one of either plausible answers. I hope I remember to go back to it in December when they say they’ll explain what it is they are trying to measure with the survey.

            • andeux Nov 6,2012 2:41 pm || Up

              Some parts of it were interesting, other parts seemed too much like dumb college dorm room philosophical debates. I’ll be interested in what they were trying to measure too, but I’m skeptical of any conclusions drawn from people’s responses to the more science-fictiony hypotheticals.

              TINSTAAFK
          • Future Ed Nov 6,2012 2:29 pm || Up

            15/22

            Sociopath

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
            • ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 2:33 pm || Up

              We already knew that.

            • Kay Nov 7,2012 3:07 pm || Up

              I took the survey because I was pretty sure I’m more of a sociopath than Ed is, but now I’m really confused.

              I kinda want to be the 4th century monk who lived on top of a pillar for 30 years covered in sores and constantly praying.

              \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
              • Future Ed Nov 7,2012 3:41 pm || Up

                I tried to answer, if you are happy, you are happy, regardless of how you get there, but try new things sometimes.

                I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • elcroata Nov 6,2012 10:36 pm || Up

        Haha, the furigner got 15/20

        Because survival is insufficient
  35. dmoas Nov 6,2012 12:19 pm

    Bloombait:

  36. Future Ed Nov 6,2012 1:48 pm

    I don’t think I can justify a subscription to read about a shitty band.

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 6,2012 2:12 pm || Up

      I used to be a huge fan of Punk label sampler albums like that. Some friends of mine were tight with MRR folks in LA in teh late 80s, so a bunch of such discs came through our house. The one I remember best was women artists off the Radio Takyo label. Great stuff.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Future Ed Nov 6,2012 2:15 pm || Up

        I did, when Radinsky was on the dodgers, head to the bullpen and scream “SO WHAT IF MY RELIEVER IS ON MYSTIC!”

        But no one moved in their little hovel.

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • beebo Nov 6,2012 4:01 pm || Up

        The Radio Tokyo Tapes comps are terrific, and pretty easy to find online now, too.

    • beebo Nov 6,2012 3:21 pm || Up

      Also:

      They could be copied (onto cassette), but not easily: duplication required one to be present, physically and mentally….You could fit five to eight minutes of music on a side, which meant lots of needle drops and lifts, tape pausing, and record-flipping. It was labor-intensive, but that’s what it took to pass the data from one person to the next, so we did it willingly

      Wow.

  37. nevermoor Nov 6,2012 2:18 pm

    One of these days someone is going to have to go to jail.

    The Pinellas County, FL (St. Pete, Clearwater, etc.) Supervisor of Elections accidentally sent out a robocall this morning to hundreds—possibly thousands—of voters informing them that they have until 7 PM tomorrow to vote.
    . . .
    The Supervisor of Elections in Pinellas County is a Republican. In 2008, the county went 54% for President Obama and 45% for Senator McCain. But I’m sure that’s just a coincidence and that the robocall was an honest mistake…

    But there’s a guy who calls himself a black panther, so both sides do it.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  38. ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 2:28 pm

    If Republicans want to pass voter ID laws to block liberals from voting, why don’t Democrats push voter IQ laws to block conservatives from voting?

    • Glorious Mundy Nov 6,2012 2:33 pm || Up

      The Voting Rights Act bars that kind of thing, but luckily the Supreme Court will strike it down soon.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 6,2012 3:04 pm || Up

      Former Senator Hollings had a great line on the campaign trail once. When his Republican opponent made an issue of Hollings never having submitted drug test results to the electorate, Hollings replied “I’ll take a drug test if my opponent takes an IQ test.”

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Kay Nov 6,2012 4:11 pm || Up

      I’m with you, Ozz.

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
  39. ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 2:30 pm

    When Paul Ryan speaks, he sounds like he knows he’s full of shit, and he thinks everyone listening also knows he’s full of shit. And they do. It’s just that too many of them are happy to swallow the shit and vote for him anyway.

  40. ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 2:31 pm

    Obama was in Greenwood, SC today? I have friends that used to live there. There’s also a good brand of bacon made there.

    • Glorious Mundy Nov 6,2012 2:32 pm || Up

      I’m pretty sure he was in Chicago playing basketball with Scottie Pippen today.

      • ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 2:33 pm || Up

        That couldn’t have gone well for him.

        • Glorious Mundy Nov 6,2012 2:35 pm || Up

          Scottie was on his team.

          • ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 2:36 pm || Up

            Oh, with. Not against. Still, isn’t Pippen like 400 years old?

            • nevermoor Nov 6,2012 3:19 pm || Up

              If Pros v. Joes taught me anything, it’s that a 400 year old NBA-er is still awesome.

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
              • ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 3:24 pm || Up

                I don’t know what Pros v. Joes is, although I can guess.

      • Future Ed Nov 6,2012 2:34 pm || Up

        My sister said she saw him at 31 flavors

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • doctorK Nov 6,2012 2:35 pm || Up

      Is there such a thing as a bad brand of bacon?

      • ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 2:37 pm || Up

        Yes. Very much yes.

      • PDXAthleticsfan Nov 6,2012 2:38 pm || Up

        A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
        • ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 2:41 pm || Up

          He’s not bad, he just ran with the wrong crowd.

        • ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 2:44 pm || Up

          He’s not bad, but his parents spoiled him.

        • andeux Nov 6,2012 2:45 pm || Up

          Three little pigs.

          TINSTAAFK
        • ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 2:45 pm || Up

          If he gets convicted, he’s gonna fry.

        • ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 2:45 pm || Up

          Those cops just have a beef with him.

        • ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 2:46 pm || Up

          His accomplices better hope he doesn’t squeal.

        • ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 2:47 pm || Up

          This little piggy went to prison…

        • dmoas Nov 6,2012 2:48 pm || Up

          I hate seeing Pig on Pig hate crimes.

        • dmoas Nov 6,2012 2:48 pm || Up

          The Big Bad Wolf is always keeping the Pig down.

        • ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 2:49 pm || Up

          “The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”

        • dmoas Nov 6,2012 2:52 pm || Up

          And this little piggy got arrested.

        • ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 2:52 pm || Up

          Charged with: sowing unrest, hogging the limelight

          • PDXAthleticsfan Nov 6,2012 2:55 pm || Up
            A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
            • ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 2:58 pm || Up

              Or perhaps exceeding his quota during truffle-hunting season. Or bagging a pregnant truffle.

              • PDXAthleticsfan Nov 6,2012 2:59 pm || Up

                Better link.

                In Italy the use of the pig to hunt truffles is prohibited since 1985 due to damage caused by animals to truffle’s mycelia during digging that drop the production rate of the area for some years.

                A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
          • ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 2:59 pm || Up

            Charged with: impersonating a police officer.

        • ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 2:56 pm || Up

          Now you know how Charlotte really died.

        • ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 2:57 pm || Up

          “Porky Pig. On the next E!: True Hollywood Story.”

          • beebo Nov 6,2012 3:24 pm || Up

            There is truly no end to the number of snarky comments this photo can generate.

  41. grover Nov 6,2012 3:16 pm

    I kinda hate myself right now. I voted Democrat across the board… not because I think the Dems are worth a crap but the Republican attack ads were just that stupid.

    So I voted out of spite towards an ad campaign!

    • Glorious Mundy Nov 6,2012 3:17 pm || Up

      Yay!

    • dmoas Nov 6,2012 3:23 pm || Up

      If it makes you feel any better, that’s more or less what my brother did in Colorado.

      • dmoas Nov 6,2012 3:23 pm || Up

        Actually, I’m not sure who he actually voted for, but more or less the same sort of voting strategy.

    • doctorK Nov 6,2012 3:24 pm || Up

      Thanks to our new top-two system, I had to choose between two Democrats for State Senate. I went with the one who was not my former state assembly-critter.

    • nevermoor Nov 6,2012 3:34 pm || Up

      At least you voted!

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • beebo Nov 6,2012 3:34 pm || Up

      I’m going to make the bold assumption that candidates from up-and-coming contenders like the NSA Did 9/11 Party and Politicians Are Crooks were not featured on the ballot out there this time around.

  42. nevermoor Nov 6,2012 4:04 pm

    LOVE how much Donnelly is outperforming Obama in IN.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • nevermoor Nov 6,2012 4:07 pm || Up

      Dislike how Romney is on pace to win 391 EVs (he has 8 of 11 so far)

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 6,2012 4:12 pm || Up

        Crap! There’s lots of good-paying jobs available still in Barcalona, right?

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • andeux Nov 6,2012 4:14 pm || Up

          If there were good-paying jobs in Barcalounger I would never get up.

          TINSTAAFK
        • nevermoor Nov 6,2012 4:19 pm || Up

          I think if you want to work from your Barcalounger, you’ve gotta sacrifice some pay.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • ptbnl Nov 6,2012 4:48 pm || Up

          You’d better be sitting down when Nurse Upgrade phones you tomorrow.

          If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
      • nevermoor Nov 6,2012 4:24 pm || Up

        Ruh roh. 464 EV pace now.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • nevermoor Nov 6,2012 4:31 pm || Up

          478!!!

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  43. andeux Nov 6,2012 4:19 pm

    Did we win yet?
    (And shouldn’t there be a game thread?)

    TINSTAAFK
  44. nevermoor Nov 6,2012 4:28 pm

    Good for Nevada. 70% turnout.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • andeux Nov 6,2012 4:34 pm || Up

      Only 61% in Washoe (Reno) but 73% in Clark (LV).

      TINSTAAFK
    • Soaker Nov 6,2012 7:50 pm || Up

      (they make the early voting in person thing very easy here; that’s why almost 50% including me went that direction)

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • andeux Nov 6,2012 7:57 pm || Up

        Hey, I was just wondering where you’d been.

        TINSTAAFK
        • Soaker Nov 6,2012 8:00 pm || Up

          Taking a little break from commenting after, I think, overdoing it the last few months (blast you A’s for being interesting this year), but I’ve been a full-time lurker the last couple weeks.

          What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
          • FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 6,2012 8:26 pm || Up

            IIRC you’ve usually taken a brief hiatus after the season ends.

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  45. Glorious Mundy Nov 6,2012 4:56 pm

    I just watched 45 minutes of CNN and I’m afraid I may be permanently dumber.

    • Kay Nov 6,2012 7:58 pm || Up

      I feel that way about pretty much all non-sports or cooking related television programming.

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
  46. ozzman99 Nov 6,2012 10:43 pm
    • elcroata Nov 6,2012 11:10 pm || Up

      If every stupid person were forced to wear an “Idiot” sign, Bloom could go back to his Sign Shop business and thrive

      Because survival is insufficient
  47. FreeSeatUpgrade Nov 7,2012 12:12 am

    Nighty-night, electorinos!

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • andeux Nov 7,2012 12:19 am || Up

      Night.
      Suddenly 74% reporting. S and T both dead heats.

      TINSTAAFK

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