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31 Oct 2012  |  DFA  |Rosterbating

OAK   Josh Reddick, Miles Head  -> Tampa Bay

TBR   David Price -> Texas

TEX   Jurickson Profar -> Oakland

TEX   Hanser Alberto -> Tampa Bay

Total Hauls

Oakland: Jurickson Profar

Tampa: Josh Reddick, Miles Head and Hanser Alberto

Texas: David Price

Breakdown:

The A’s have need a shortstop for like a brazilion and a half years.  Profar is going to be amazing.  We can play Chris Young or Cespedes in Right Field.  It would allow us to trade Addison Russel at the deadline next year for needed reinforcements and use probably $20M over the next three years for a DH, 2B, or a Catcher (Mike Napoli anyone?) rather than giving it to Stephen Drew, who has always been overrated based on his 2010 season.

The Rays get payroll flexibility, have enough starting pitching to replace Price, and get a 1b prospect and a really strong SS prospect to go with a Gold Glove RFer who can replace BJ Upton (either by playing center himself or putting Desmond Jennings there).

Rangers get an elite starting pitcher who is under team control for three years.

Thoughts?

59 thoughts on “Fake Trade Thread or Where DFA Trades All Your Favorite Players: Profar Edition”

  1. MikeV Oct 31,2012 1:10 pm

    Napoli isn’t really a catcher anymore is he?

    Also can we trade Crisp instead? That would work better for me, and we can add Grant Green along with Head. Thanks.

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

    • DFA Oct 31,2012 1:11 pm || Up

      The Rays wouldn’t take Crisp. Hes not under control long enough or cheap enough for the salary relief to make sense for the Rays to get rid of a true ace in Price

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
  2. MikeV Oct 31,2012 1:30 pm

    Now that I look again I’m not sure the rays are getting enough for Price.

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

  3. TJ Oct 31,2012 1:30 pm

    This is a pretty well reasoned trade, especially as far as these things normally go.

    That said, I think Texas is the team that says no to this offer.

    • DFA Oct 31,2012 2:07 pm || Up

      What do you think would make Texas say yes?

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
      • nevermoor Oct 31,2012 3:05 pm || Up

        Swapping Profar for Andrus?

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • DFA Oct 31,2012 3:17 pm || Up

          I don’t think any of the players except texas do it for Andrus

          In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
          • nevermoor Oct 31,2012 4:02 pm || Up

            You don’t think the A’s would do that? Seems surprising to me. A 3.5ish win SS seems like a better deal than a COF with one 4.5 win season.

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
            • DFA Oct 31,2012 4:54 pm || Up

              But 1 pre arby year of Reddick plus 3 arby years > 3 arby years of Andrus

              In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
              • grover Oct 31,2012 5:06 pm || Up

                Cots has Andrus signing an extension through his arby years. FA beckons after 2014.

                • DFA Oct 31,2012 5:29 pm || Up

                  shit youre right. Its only two years.

                  Then there is no way either the A’s or the Rays would do it for Andrus

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • nevermoor Oct 31,2012 7:19 pm || Up

                  What kind of prospect would we need from Texas to do it, in your view?

                  This wouldn’t change the Rays’ piece in any way.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • DFA Oct 31,2012 8:49 pm || Up

                  Odor or Alfaro?

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • nevermoor Oct 31,2012 11:02 pm || Up

                  Doesn’t seem like too much more to ask, and I think the Rangers would feel much better moving Andrus than Profar

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • DFA Nov 1,2012 9:29 am || Up

                  I agree the probably would but at the same time it doesn’t make much sense that the team with the most payroll flexibility would be shedding expensive assets.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • nevermoor Nov 1,2012 10:44 am || Up

                  Depends on whether they have a target FA to spend all that money on.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • WaddellCanseco Nov 1,2012 12:03 pm || Up

                  I don’t see them trading Andrus because of cost but in order to fill a hole or two in the OF or pitching staff. Profar for Justin Upton would be kinda fun though.

  4. Future Ed Oct 31,2012 1:45 pm

    I think the Rangers are looking to sell high on Andrus, rather than Profar.

    As a long term matter, sure SS is a black hole, but isn’t catcher a more pressing need?

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • DFA Oct 31,2012 2:08 pm || Up

      I would argue that Norris/George platoon presents a pretty ok floor to prevent uber suck.

      I know the Rangers are looking to sell high on Andrus, but I don’t think that TBR would do a Price deal straight up without Profar given their cost structure.

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
      • Glorious Mundy Oct 31,2012 2:47 pm || Up

        ?? I thought the A’s were getting Profar.

        • DFA Oct 31,2012 3:21 pm || Up

          but Reddick solves a need for them and they can use Zorbrist there until they put Lee there.

          In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
          • Glorious Mundy Oct 31,2012 3:34 pm || Up

            So the reason you can’t swap in Andrus for Profar is that the A’s wouldn’t do it, not the Rays?

            • DFA Oct 31,2012 4:55 pm || Up

              I mean we could. Im not sure you would want to because you are giving up a year of prearby reddick plus head for Andrus who will start to get pricey.

              In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
      • nevermoor Oct 31,2012 3:05 pm || Up

        But they aren’t getting Profar here. I don’t understand this.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • DFA Oct 31,2012 3:20 pm || Up

          They have three needs OF SS C an all star RF/CFer should work for them

          In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
  5. FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 31,2012 1:50 pm

    Not bad. I endorse this proposal. Now, work a deal where we get Swisher back.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • DFA Oct 31,2012 2:09 pm || Up

      Do you have 90m?

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
    • Kay Oct 31,2012 8:21 pm || Up

      ew, gross…

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
  6. MikeV Oct 31,2012 1:55 pm

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

    • DFA Oct 31,2012 2:09 pm || Up

      Im not sure why you would give up something in order to pick up that option but it is Drayton Moore, GM.

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
      • Future Ed Oct 31,2012 2:23 pm || Up

        yeah, it seems like a bad deal, unless the ANgles are sending most of the cash, then why wouldn’t they pu the option and wait?

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • DFA Oct 31,2012 2:37 pm || Up

          Well the Angles did pick up the option.

          The Royals probably recognize that they couldn’t get Santana on a 1y deal and want the flexibility if he doesn’t return to form to cut bait.

          In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
        • WaddellCanseco Oct 31,2012 8:51 pm || Up

          Angels sending $1M and getting Brandon Sisk

    • WaddellCanseco Oct 31,2012 8:51 pm || Up

      Is Santana really any better than the Royals starters? Now they’re paying him $12M to suck? I don’t get it. Angels made out great getting a free Brandon Sisk.

      • DFA Oct 31,2012 8:54 pm || Up

        Draton Moore GM poeple

        In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
  7. grover Oct 31,2012 3:19 pm

    Well…

    That’s certainly an idea.

    • DFA Oct 31,2012 3:27 pm || Up

      say more?

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
      • grover Oct 31,2012 4:04 pm || Up

        Seems extreme. And more flash than necessary.

        Looking at the current 40 man roster the 2013 A’s are sitting at a $46.2 million payroll with SS and two bench spots up in the air. Pencil Grant Green in as a UT (and a minimum salary) that can play everywhere but 1B, RF and C and you’ve got your choice of options (Sogard, Rosales or a FA pick-up, preferably a LHB that can play infield and run a bit) to man the last bench spot.

        I’d start by trading Seth Smith and his projected $3.3 million salary. If CCYR are healthy Smith isn’t getting in the line-up. Platoon Carter and Moss, with the guy not playing 1B that day picking up extra at-bats if and when one of CCYR gets hurt or needs a day off.

        The rotation can be filled from arms the team already controls, but I wouldn’t be opposed to a 1 year signing ala Colon or McCarthy. For point of discussion, give McCarthy a 1/$4 million deal plus IP incentives. That lets the A’s bump one of Griffin/Straily back to AAA (or makes them available as a trade chip). Straily, Peacock and Ross are already on the 40 man, plus Gray should start next year in Sac. That’s plenty of depth to cover for regression/injury. (It’s possible Ross is out of options, cant check right now but Straily/Peacock/Gray in Sac still offers sufficient coverage.) Adding McCarthy bumps payroll to just under $51 million, plenty of fiscal wiggle room to add a 2nd FA SP if you do end up trading an arm in the quest for SS improvement.

        If you don’t trade for a SS you could pay Drew $8 million annual to play SS. Or get Rollins in a salary dump. Or some other idea. The A’s don’t need a superstar at SS in 2013, they just need a solid contributor. Profar is certainly an exciting idea but there are simpler moves that could provide the same aggregate production if you keep Reddick on the roster.

        • MikeV Oct 31,2012 4:07 pm || Up

          Wait didn’t Toronto get Mike Aviles from Boston when Farrell got hired as manager?

          We’re getting Yunel Escobar. I’m sure of it.

          And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

          Thanks, and go As.

          • grover Oct 31,2012 4:10 pm || Up

            Tis an option…

          • Future Ed Oct 31,2012 4:10 pm || Up

            Ross for Escobar!!

            I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • grover Oct 31,2012 5:14 pm || Up

            Escobar makes sense, unless you think he’s done and/or has personal issues that makes him too big a head case.

            He turns 30 in two days.

            He’s under contract for $5 million in 2013, plus 2 club options at $5 million each year.

            He’s had rough years in 2010 and 2012, but even then he “earned” his salary per fWAR. So if he’s only a 2 Win player here on out he’s still a cost-effective option. Hell… a 2 Win SS is something the A’s haven’t gotten from the position since 2010!

            • DFA Oct 31,2012 5:30 pm || Up

              I think hes a head case. I don’t want him.

              In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
              • grover Oct 31,2012 5:44 pm || Up

                Not even straight up for Tyson Ross?

                Im just curious to gauge how much you don’t want Escobar.

                • DFA Oct 31,2012 6:20 pm || Up

                  sure id stomache that

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • ozzman99 Oct 31,2012 6:42 pm || Up

                  Typo, or contraction?

                • DFA Oct 31,2012 8:50 pm || Up

                  it was suppose to be funny. that one i did intentionally

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • ozzman99 Oct 31,2012 9:16 pm || Up

                  Just checking.

            • WaddellCanseco Oct 31,2012 8:56 pm || Up

              I think he’s a head case. I want him. God help me I’m a sucker for head cases. I liked Milton Bradley too.

              • MikeV Oct 31,2012 9:22 pm || Up

                Milton was AWESOME and I don’t care what anybody else says

                And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

                Thanks, and go As.

        • WaddellCanseco Oct 31,2012 8:55 pm || Up

          Your ideas are the most likely scenarios, but I wouldn’t mind a superstar at SS or anywhere. The team did well without any stars last year but the idea that they can continue to outperform their fWAR by as much as they did in 2012 every year seems improbable. Unless there’s some giant flaw in fWAR that they’ve discovered.

          • grover Oct 31,2012 9:10 pm || Up

            I mentioned Rollins, possessor of the 3rd highest fWAR among SS in 2012.

          • DFA Oct 31,2012 9:22 pm || Up

            What do you think of the trade though?

            In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
            • WaddellCanseco Oct 31,2012 10:46 pm || Up

              I’d do it in a second from the A’s perspective. I would want more if I were the Rays and there’s no way I’d trade Profar if I were the Rangers. I think the Rays were the best team in baseball at the end of the year and they have a great chance at a World Series title next year if they keep Price. If I were they, and I traded Price in this deal, I’d cut out Oakland and just take Profar and Alberto.

              • DFA Nov 1,2012 9:34 am || Up

                What would be the needed addition from the A’s to make it worth the Ray’s while?

                If it was Andrus instead would you do it for all three?

                In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • WaddellCanseco Nov 1,2012 9:48 am || Up

                  I wouldn’t trade Reddick for Andrus since we’d only have Elvis for 2 years, and I’d want more than Reddick and a couple of B/C prospects for Price.

                  I don’t really see a fit for the Rays and A’s with Price. The only players the A’s have that may be as talented as Price are Cespedes and Russell

        • Dial C for Concupiscence Nov 1,2012 10:42 am || Up

          You think Philly would trade Rollins in a salary dump? I would imagine that they still think of themselves as contenders.

          A Rollins trade is a definite possibility though. The Phillies do need outfielders.

          • WaddellCanseco Nov 1,2012 12:02 pm || Up

            So they’d put Galvis at SS and try to contend? I’m not seeing this.

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