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My Small Denouncement 514

I miss so many grills and lounges that I’m probably listing only things that were already linked to, because they are pretty old

1. It’s only one letter, how much difference can it make?

2. I need a new camera

3. When seventeen naked people come to your house the next time, have some paint ready

4. For all the drama and torture poor Giants fan had with Zito’s inexplicable performance decline, most people don’t realize that Giants got exactly what they bargained for. Zito was basically the same pitcher in his last three years in Oakland as he has been in the six years in San Francisco.

514 thoughts on “My Small Denouncement

  1. FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 25,2012 8:30 am

    3. Wow! Also, the accident damage kind of looks like ozzman’s car. Maybe he should suggets that his insurance company send 17 naked people to replace it.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • MikeV Oct 25,2012 8:32 am || Up

      airbags/boobies comment, etc

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

    • ozzman99 Oct 25,2012 12:45 pm || Up

      Can I choose who those 17 people are?

    • ozzman99 Oct 25,2012 12:49 pm || Up

      And yeah, it does look like my car. Which will be fixed. The insurance company is gonna have to shell out $4300, and it’s gonna take 2-3 weeks.

  2. elcroata Oct 25,2012 9:17 am

    Happy birthday, Josh!

    Because survival is insufficient
    • Kay Oct 25,2012 9:22 am || Up

      Yeah, Happy Birthday.

      (Which Josh?)

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
      • elcroata Oct 25,2012 9:35 am || Up

        Oh, just nobody in particular

        Because survival is insufficient
        • Kay Oct 25,2012 9:51 am || Up

          You mean that eccentric late night radio personality?

          \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
          • Kay Oct 25,2012 9:52 am || Up

            That light of Leftist Liberation?

            \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
            • Kay Oct 25,2012 9:53 am || Up

              one of my Favorite Freedom Fighters against Feudal Fascism?

              \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
              • elcroata Oct 25,2012 10:15 am || Up

                all of them

                Because survival is insufficient
                • beebo Oct 25,2012 10:21 am || Up

                  The Sultan of Socialist Revolution?

                • DFA Oct 25,2012 10:25 am || Up

                  Ps whats your pasta recipe? I cant find it and I have been unhappy with the jamie oliver one I have been using

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • elcroata Oct 25,2012 10:37 am || Up

                  Per person about 100-120 grams of flour, one egg, and a big spoon of olive oil. I basically don’t add any water, very little if really needed and of course salt.

                  Because survival is insufficient
                • DFA Oct 25,2012 10:40 am || Up

                  the recipe I had was 5 eggs 4 cups of flower salt.

                  It was kinda fail blog .org

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • sslinger Oct 25,2012 11:04 am || Up

                  Ooh yeah, that’s a lot of eggs, and a lot of pasta. I’m pretty much like ec, except I just use a cup (I have no idea how many grams that is) per egg (and use the eggshell to measure in the olive oil). That’s enough for pasta for 2-4 people. It should be drier than you think it should, with just enough water to hold it together after kneading. I wrap it tight and refrigerate for an hour or so before rolling out. Pretty much from Alice Waters’ CP pasta book.

                • DFA Oct 25,2012 11:27 am || Up

                  Ive got a a butternut squash filling for ravioli. But the whole think kinda got all fucked since it was way too dry and wasn’t holding together well with out the oo

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
  3. FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 25,2012 9:27 am

    If you have a chance to catch it, last night’s Colbert Report was scorching hot hilarity. He did a five minute bit composed entirely of questions, mocking the Fox News style of phrasing statements as questions to claim it’s journalism (e.g., “Is it possible that Pres. Obama deliberately let the Libyan embassy be attacked to score political points?”). Also hilarious: his invitation to pay Donald Trump $1 million to suck his balls.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • elcroata Oct 25,2012 10:15 am || Up

      I just did. Loved it

      Because survival is insufficient
    • nevermoor Oct 25,2012 10:17 am || Up

      I did watch it. Great work.

      That said, the highlight of the week was Stewart showing the two Michelle pictures to Obama.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  4. andeux Oct 25,2012 9:49 am

    The first link for #4 shows only 1 year.

    While his FIP and xFIP are almost identical when comparing 2004-2006 to 2007-2012, the league (facing pitchers instead of DHs) and park effects make a big difference in value – he averaged 2.4 WAR in his last 3 years in Oakland, and 1.2 WAR in his 6 years in SF. That’s huge, and it’s even bigger if you use b-r WAR (based on actual runs allowed) instead of fangraphs WAR (based on FIP).

    TINSTAAFK
    • elcroata Oct 25,2012 10:15 am || Up

      very true

      Because survival is insufficient
      • elcroata Oct 25,2012 11:05 am || Up

        I’m actually really surprised that there is such a big difference in WAR.

        Some 15% of it can be attributed to decrease in innings per year.
        Over the last 9 years, average NL FIP was 4.20, average AL FIP was 4.32. So, I don’t know, chalk another 15% to that.
        Can there be that much difference in park factor so that it would make same FIP be worth 60% more in terms of WAR?

        Because survival is insufficient
        • colin Oct 25,2012 2:12 pm || Up

          What about league-wide decline in offense over those years?

          • elcroata Oct 25,2012 2:38 pm || Up

            Good point. Average FIP in 2004-2006 AL was 4.46. Average FIP in 2007-2012 NL was 4.13.

            On the other side, I’m assuming fWAR uses the park factors they have here and these make Coliseum and AT&T virtually identical.

            So, that .34 delta must account for about 1 WAR/year. It is probably not linear, as Hudson and Minor had about the same WAR differential, although there was a .60 FIP differential

            Because survival is insufficient
            • andeux Oct 25,2012 2:43 pm || Up

              .33 R/9 * 200 IP/9 = 7.5 runs, so a little less than a win.

              TINSTAAFK
    • MikeV Oct 25,2012 10:45 am || Up

      Isn’t the whole point to remove defense from the equation though, so use FIP instead of actual runs allowed?

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

      • elcroata Oct 25,2012 11:09 am || Up

        fWAR does that. bWAR doesn’t. I think the truth is somewhere in between, probably closer to the fWAR, as some of the factors for the RA/FIP differential can be attributed to the pitcher – holding the runners, pitching from the stretch, his own fielding. Only thing is, that it is still rather hard to quantify them.

        Because survival is insufficient
        • MikeV Oct 25,2012 11:10 am || Up

          Yeah I know, but for the purposes of WAR, to determine an individual player’s value, you’d want to remove variables out of the player’s control as much as possible?

          And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

          Thanks, and go As.

          • elcroata Oct 25,2012 11:24 am || Up

            I guess B-R feels that by including those additional variables they increase the precision more by additional talent evaluators than they decrease it by adding noise.

            Because survival is insufficient
          • andeux Oct 25,2012 12:13 pm || Up

            You want to remove the variables out of his control but include the ones in his control.

            fWAR treats everything that happens to balls in play and sequencing as things out of the pitcher’s control, rWAR treats them as in his control. As ec says, neither of those extremes really makes sense, and I’ve never seen a really convincing case for either as a better measure of talent.

            TINSTAAFK
            • MikeV Oct 25,2012 12:45 pm || Up

              I’m not using it as a measure of talent though

              And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

              Thanks, and go As.

              • andeux Oct 25,2012 12:54 pm || Up

                In that case the argument for using RA instead of FIP is even stronger.

                TINSTAAFK
                • MikeV Oct 25,2012 12:58 pm || Up

                  not really. I still want to know how well the pitcher performed, whether or not that is his actual talent level isn’t relevant.

                  And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

                  Thanks, and go As.

                • andeux Oct 25,2012 2:51 pm || Up

                  Now we’re getting into semantics.
                  If you think “how well the pitcher performed” means only K, BB, and HR, and that anything else is his fielders or “luck,” then yes FIP is the right measure.
                  If you think “how well the pitcher performed” means not allowing runs, then how many runs he allowed (with an adjustment for team fielding, which is part of b-r WAR) is the right measure.

                  I tend toward the latter interpretation.

                  TINSTAAFK
        • DFA Oct 25,2012 11:29 am || Up

          but also fWAR is based on innings which has a component of defense. If you have good defense you would get out of innings faster increasing value, even if the FIP doesn’t include defense (more batters faced more likely to give up HRs/9)

          In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
          • elcroata Oct 25,2012 11:35 am || Up

            I don’t know the exact formula but I shouldn’t the innings at least partially be removed from the equation? FIP is a rate state with innings pitched in the denominator and WAR than uses some sort of FIP times the innings pitched…

            Because survival is insufficient
            • DFA Oct 25,2012 11:40 am || Up

              (HR*13+(BB+HBP-IBB)*3-K*2)/IP

              If you face more batters per inning because of shitty defense your numerator stats go up and your denominator stats go down.

              In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
              • elcroata Oct 25,2012 11:48 am || Up

                That’s true for most pitchers. The very best will actually profit from shitty defenses, though.

                The same is true for stuff like K/9 or BB/9. It would be better to use PA instead of IP, but the difference is not really that big.

                Because survival is insufficient
                • DFA Oct 25,2012 12:49 pm || Up

                  Because if their K/BB rate is > 3/2 then yes.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • elcroata Oct 25,2012 12:58 pm || Up

                  Actually if their K*2>BB*3+HR*13, but yes, that’s the idea.

                  Because survival is insufficient
                • Future Ed Oct 25,2012 1:40 pm || Up

                  you guys are wasting your time, I have looked at the pictures. Its the same guy.

                  I have $5. No I don\'t.
  5. MikeV Oct 25,2012 12:54 pm
    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

    • DFA Oct 25,2012 3:21 pm || Up

      I want her. Badly

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
  6. Glorious Mundy Oct 25,2012 1:05 pm

    Kevin Drum on the California propositions. I agree with him across the board.

    • MikeV Oct 25,2012 1:23 pm || Up

      as usual, I am voting No on every prop.

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

      • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 25,2012 1:29 pm || Up

        Too much work to actually figure them out?

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • Future Ed Oct 25,2012 1:38 pm || Up

          Kinda.

          Its the legislatures job to make laws. that is what a republic is all about. I get the historical significance of the legislative process, but it has gone the way of the Bayonet.

          My default is no. I do vote yes on a lot, though.

          I have $5. No I don\'t.
          • Glorious Mundy Oct 25,2012 1:46 pm || Up

            My default is No as well, as is Drum’s, but there are certain instances where because we have this stupid system a yes is the only way to get important stuff done.

          • Kay Oct 25,2012 1:46 pm || Up

            Agreed.

            Default no’s with occasional yesses.

            I wish we could just vote to get rid of the initiative process once and for all.

            \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
          • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 25,2012 1:47 pm || Up

            I basically agree with this. The mass electorate is stupid, or at least horribly susceptible to base persuasion. However, since I have to live with the outcome I do make my best effort to vote for what I perceive as the best policy.

            As a good Yes vote example, Prop 34 would repeal the death penalty. I don’t expect it to pass, but it’s important in the historic continuum that we continue to prove that support for the death penalty is eroding. Staking out our place in the trend of history does have meaning.

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • andeux Oct 25,2012 3:04 pm || Up

            Its the legislatures job to make laws.

            I agree, most props are things that should be voted on by the legislature and not the public.
            But there are also instances (perhaps none this time) where the legislature has already passed them but the state constitution requires that the voters then approve them as well. The default should be yes for those, for exactly the same reason that it is no for other cases.

            The initiative process would make more sense if it required a super-majority. The absolute worst case is something like Prop 13 that passed by only a simple majority itself, but requires a 2/3 vote in order to be overridden on a local level. I don’t see how that is legal/constitutional. (I mean, I get that it is apparently constitutional in the narrow sense that there’s nothing in the constitution that says a proposition can’t do that. But it makes no sense, even as an expression of direct democracy.)

            TINSTAAFK
            • andeux Oct 25,2012 3:28 pm || Up

              Having now RTFA, 30, 36, and 39 are all examples of what I was talking about in the first paragraph.

              TINSTAAFK
            • DFA Oct 25,2012 4:09 pm || Up

              Like prop 39 which is a prop because of the 2/3 thing

              In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
        • MikeV Oct 25,2012 1:40 pm || Up

          Basically what Ed said. My own personal little protest.

          And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

          Thanks, and go As.

          • DFA Oct 25,2012 3:29 pm || Up

            There are a lot of good Yeses this year

            30 Prevents a School Funding Apocalypse
            34+36 Save the state a ton of money while preventing innocent people from being executed
            39 Closes a tax loophole that encourages companies to leave California and hire less people
            40 Prevents Republicans from hijacking a non partisan commission that was created by a Republican just last election (something I opposed but whatever)

            In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
            • MikeV Oct 25,2012 3:52 pm || Up

              30 – I’m sorry but I’m really sick of the tax increases because zomg think of the children. This state has proven repeatedly that it does a shit job managing a budget and spending, and continue to ask taxpayers for more and more. Fuck that. Couple friends of mine are teachers and voting no for this.

              34 & 36 are protest votes, although 34 creates a $100M fund that is given to law enforcement agencies

              39 is setting budget via ballot. Again legislators not doing their FKing jobs.

              40 I will probably abstain on. It’s a dead prop anyway and it’s backwards, no is a yes vote and yes is a no vote.

              And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

              Thanks, and go As.

              • doctorK Oct 25,2012 4:13 pm || Up

                I’d be more inclined for a yes on 30 if Moonbeam wasn’t pushing ahead with the train to nowhere project.

                • DFA Oct 25,2012 4:48 pm || Up

                  it will create jobs and leverages federal money that we wouldn’t get otherwise

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • dmoas Oct 25,2012 6:02 pm || Up

                  While spending a ton of state money that could be put to better use? No thank you. That’s like those shitty infomercial deals: Buy 1, Get 1 free! Just pay the additional shipping and handling which conveniently costs twice the cost of one + shipping which you get to pay twice!!! But it’s a deal!! And we’re giving it to you free!!!

              • DFA Oct 25,2012 4:48 pm || Up

                30 First you realize that its only a tax on super wealthy people right? And that you will never pay that tax? Ok how about ZOMG our state takes in almost no revenue compared to its costs (most of which are like skyrocketing increases in things like constitutionally required educational services for children with developmental disabilities, increasing health insurance costs, etc) so pick something else, give their money to schools and then say its a tax for those things if you don’t want taxes for the kids.

                34 36 Im not sure what you mean about this

                39 It would technically be a tax increase so it would require 2/3 vote which is unrealistic. It would raise an additional $1bn.

                40 What do you mean by dead prop?

                In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • sslinger Oct 26,2012 10:50 am || Up

                  30 Well, to be fair, there is the 1/4 cent sales tax too, which we will all pay for four years.

                • DFA Oct 26,2012 11:43 am || Up

                  This is true.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • DFA Oct 26,2012 11:44 am || Up

                  I was talking about the income tax hike.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
        • MikeV Oct 25,2012 1:44 pm || Up

          also, nice dig.

          And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

          Thanks, and go As.

          • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 25,2012 1:52 pm || Up

            Sorry, couldn’t help it. I’m not nearlt at the DFA-level of scorn for people who opt out of electoral interest, but I do think that when the dickheads in politics get someone to tune out, that often means they win.

            "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
            • MikeV Oct 25,2012 3:23 pm || Up

              It’s certainly not tuning out. I also generally vote against every incumbent regardless of R/D. Shit needs to change

              And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

              Thanks, and go As.

              • colin Oct 25,2012 3:27 pm || Up

                But what about problems that can’t be fixed in 2 or 4 years? This method would just lead to a lot of switching back and forth with very little progress.

              • DFA Oct 25,2012 4:50 pm || Up

                What really needs to change: Constitutional Amendment to get rid of the 2/3 budget and taxes requirements.

                In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
            • DFA Oct 25,2012 3:25 pm || Up

              Yup

              In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
        • sslinger Oct 25,2012 1:47 pm || Up

          My default is No, because I think the whole initiative system is FKed. For example, the fact that many of this year’s measures are backed by a single extremely wealthy individual. But there are occasions to vote yes, including 40 this year, where the people who initially got it on the ballot for the purpose of having people vote No are not even promoting that any more.

          • DFA Oct 25,2012 3:25 pm || Up

            This.

            In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
            • Soaker Oct 25,2012 4:12 pm || Up

              I haven’t looked at what CA is voting on this year, but (sorry DFA) the ones that aren’t backed by a couple of rich people sometimes are written by unions (notably teachers and nurses to my recollection) in pursuit of their own self-interest as well.

              NV differs from CA in that an initiative has to be passed twice by the voters to become law. If we voted for one this year (there aren’t any on the ballot) it would have to be passed again in November 2014 to become law. So initiatives aren’t all that common in NV; it’s too expensive to run two campaigns. Regrettably one that passed in recent years became Article I, Sec. 21 of the NV Constitution in 2002:

              Sec: 21.  Limitation on recognition of marriage.  Only a marriage between a male and female person shall be recognized and given effect in this state.

              [Added in 2002. Proposed by initiative petition and approved and ratified by the people at the 2000 and 2002 general elections.]

              The tourist industry hates that for obvious reasons and when the time is right their money will be behind the repeal effort.

              What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
              • DFA Oct 25,2012 4:52 pm || Up

                unions (notably teachers and nurses to my recollection) in pursuit of their own self-interest as well

                Please show me a proposition by teachers and nurses unions that is self serving and doesn’t have a significant public good.

                In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
      • doctorK Oct 25,2012 4:12 pm || Up

        By voting no, nothing changes (exception is 40), so by default, nothing can get worse.

        • dmoas Oct 25,2012 6:11 pm || Up

          Not sure that’s true. If your boat springs a leak and you do nothing because doing nothing won’t make it worse, eventually the boat sinks with you along with it.

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 25,2012 1:27 pm || Up

      I agree on all but 37. I support labeling the GMO foods, even though the initative could be better.

      Worried that Prop 35 will pass because it sounds good (who doesn’t want to stop human trafficking?), though in reality a whole lot of people whose lives are focused on helping the victims of this activity oppose the initiative, because it has the effect of making it harder for victims to report their abusers.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • sslinger Oct 25,2012 1:43 pm || Up

        I am on the same page as you, including on 35. I was sort of on the fence about 37 because of the way the bill is written, but in general anything that Syngenta and Monsanto are spending millions to defeat is worth voting for.

        • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 25,2012 2:10 pm || Up

          Wondering how you (and other Berkeley FKers) are voting on Measure T. I’m a strong supporter…Berkeley needs to create opportunities for businesses that could employ significant numbers of people to come to town…the lack of something like this is why we lost Clif Bar, for example.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
          • sslinger Oct 25,2012 2:21 pm || Up

            Yeah, I’m going to vote for it. I can see the need to master plan some larger parcels, and seems to me the area can handle some increased housing density. It hasn’t exactly killed Emeryville. And the OMG 75 foot buildings as far as the eye can see rhetoric of the opponents is ridiculous. As for displacement of artists etc., some of that would probably be inevitable, but I’m hoping the combination of increased housing stock and the fact that some (most?) parcels will not actually be redeveloped for some years will alleviate pressures on rent enough to allow them to continue to live/work in the area affordably.

            • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 25,2012 2:27 pm || Up

              Yeah, the new Berkeley Bowl didn’t exactly kill the neighborhood the way the Measure T opponents said it would.

              "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
              • sslinger Oct 25,2012 2:43 pm || Up

                Also true.

              • DFA Oct 25,2012 4:10 pm || Up

                Ionno… the new Berkeley Bowl brings unsavory characters like DFA to Berkeley all the time.

                In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
      • Glorious Mundy Oct 25,2012 1:48 pm || Up

        I’m voting no on 37 for the reason Drum cites. That kind of thing should be passed, if at all, by legislation, not an initiative. I’m also not that freaked out about GMO foods.

      • nevermoor Oct 25,2012 3:10 pm || Up

        35 was an easy no for me because of the general changes to sex offender stuff. That part of CA law is so awfully overused already that any expansion is a nonstarter.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • nevermoor Oct 25,2012 1:43 pm || Up

      That’s roughly how I voted (though I voted for both 30 and 38). I fully agree with his stated biases.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  7. Glorious Mundy Oct 25,2012 1:16 pm

    Magary:

    I know we’ve covered all the reasons why Patriots fans are horrible in the past. And yet, I feel as if the subject remains inexhaustible, like Robert Caro exploring the life of Lyndon Johnson. There’s just so much ground to cover here, and every year, Pats fans manage to outdouche themselves.

    • whimsical witch Oct 25,2012 1:30 pm || Up

      :(
      i am a very nice person.
      :(

      • sslinger Oct 25,2012 1:48 pm || Up

        Yes, yes you are. That’s why you moved here, away from all those horrible Pats fans.

      • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 25,2012 1:48 pm || Up

        It’s the 85% of the apples which are rotten that are making the rare sweet ones like you look bad.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Glorious Mundy Oct 25,2012 1:49 pm || Up

        I personally have no issue with Pats fans. I just loved the Caro reference.

        • whimsical witch Oct 25,2012 1:51 pm || Up

          awww, you are all so sweet. i can vouch for about 7 other nice pats fans out here, too.

        • harensheir15 Oct 26,2012 6:55 am || Up

          Me, too.

      • 5Aces Oct 25,2012 2:06 pm || Up

        I’m sorry. =(

        Of course I don’t dress up in spiked shoulder pads and eat the hearts out of children, etc so I can feel your pain.

        Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
    • ozzman99 Oct 25,2012 2:56 pm || Up

      I can’t really say much. It appears that 49er fans are becoming major douchebags as well.

  8. Future Ed Oct 25,2012 1:23 pm

    Super secret mission revealed:

    I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • MikeV Oct 25,2012 1:26 pm || Up

      I expect that to be filled with a lot of hard hitting questions.

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

      • Future Ed Oct 25,2012 1:27 pm || Up

        how great was the A’s year?

        I have $5. No I don\'t.
        • elcroata Oct 25,2012 1:40 pm || Up

          I know you won’t go out and say it, but you must feel some vindication in having shown the world that you truly are the greatest.

          Because survival is insufficient
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 25,2012 1:30 pm || Up

        Maybe Blez is positioning himself as a post-Fosse sideline reporter.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • Kay Oct 25,2012 1:45 pm || Up

          He needs long blonde Erin Andrews hair if he ever hopes to compete.

          \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
        • Jennifer Oct 25,2012 4:23 pm || Up

          He went to the Ray Fosse school of interviews.

    • Future Ed Oct 25,2012 1:40 pm || Up

      PS: I am not reading it. I read it in 2005, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12.

      Same damn thing.

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • andeux Oct 25,2012 3:08 pm || Up

        I remember Beane seeming candid and interesting the first couple of times, and increasingly bland in later ones.

        TINSTAAFK
    • nevermoor Oct 25,2012 1:43 pm || Up

      Shocking.

      "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 25,2012 1:50 pm || Up

        I never get tired of this picture:

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Jennifer Oct 25,2012 4:24 pm || Up

        Before I saw the username, I was 100% certain Mike made that comment. Color me shocked.

    • MikeV Oct 25,2012 1:47 pm || Up

      This is the best line in the entire thing.

      Bleszinski: We have the intelligent fans on our sites so no haters there.

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

      • elcroata Oct 25,2012 1:48 pm || Up

        You made that up

        Because survival is insufficient
      • colin Oct 25,2012 3:02 pm || Up

        That is ridiculous.

      • Dial C for Concupiscence Oct 25,2012 3:17 pm || Up

        He must be assuming that haters refers to SBN and Toonces haters.

        Not even going to touch the “intelligent” part.

        • elcroata Oct 25,2012 3:20 pm || Up

          Don’t – it could be contagious and we for sure don’t want any of that “intelligence” thing around here

          Because survival is insufficient
  9. elcroata Oct 25,2012 1:41 pm

    Seen on a market in Xi’an, China.

    It says “Serve the people”

    Because survival is insufficient
    • Future Ed Oct 25,2012 1:45 pm || Up

      ITS A COOK BOOK!

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • elcroata Oct 25,2012 1:45 pm || Up

        hee

        Because survival is insufficient
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 25,2012 1:53 pm || Up

        Awesome.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Dial C for Concupiscence Oct 25,2012 2:03 pm || Up

  10. elcroata Oct 25,2012 1:57 pm

    OK, so I went over to see the interview, glanced over it and opened the prospects FanPost (btw. they have completely redesigned the site).

    And in that FanPost, I saw sc00by reference my pitch blocking metric and say explicitly that I did it. Toonces than chimes in and says something like “The problem with that metric is that it can’t measure catchers blocking very high fastballs and I remember how I watched Suzuki and there was nothing like him in blocking those”. Of course, the metric very much measures that. Some things never change…

    Because survival is insufficient
    • 5Aces Oct 25,2012 2:12 pm || Up

      I hate that I am tempted to log in just to say “this would be a great point to bring up with the creator of it, what ever happened to…”

      Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it? -Steve McCatty
  11. Glorious Mundy Oct 25,2012 4:54 pm

    Slusser kicks ass.

    • Glorious Mundy Oct 25,2012 4:56 pm || Up

      God, Selig is such a dick.

      • ozzman99 Oct 25,2012 5:08 pm || Up

        “It’s only the 3rd year of the Blue Ribbo Panel, calm down.”

        • Englishmajor Oct 25,2012 7:17 pm || Up

          “Are we there yet?” “NO, we’ll be there when we’re there, now sit down and shut up or I’m turning this car around!”

        • DFA Oct 25,2012 8:19 pm || Up

          Im in the 8th year of my Pabst Blue Ribbon Panel… It shows not sign of coming to completion any time soon.

          In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
          • ozzman99 Oct 25,2012 8:33 pm || Up

            That used to be cheap, shitty beer. When did human taste buds suddenly change?

            • DFA Oct 25,2012 8:45 pm || Up

              pbr and black star have the best price to taste ratio in the low cost beer market.

              In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
              • ozzman99 Oct 25,2012 8:48 pm || Up

                Never tried Black Star, but even broke college students wouldn’t buy PBR when I was in college (the first time). Well, things change.

                • DFA Oct 25,2012 8:49 pm || Up

                  what cheap beer alternatives do you prefer?

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • ozzman99 Oct 25,2012 8:53 pm || Up

                  I don’t really like beer, and the ones I tolerate aren’t really cheap. I’m not into the high dollar, high gravity ones either.

                • DFA Oct 25,2012 9:27 pm || Up

                  I don’t like steak but hanger steaks a crappy cheap cut?

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • lenscrafters Oct 25,2012 9:05 pm || Up

                  Blue Moon was the new PBR at my college.

                • Glorious Mundy Oct 25,2012 9:07 pm || Up

                  Back in my day it was Henry Weinhard’s. What the hell ever happened to that crap?

                • Soaker Oct 25,2012 9:17 pm || Up

                  It’s still alive and well. I’ve seen a 12-pack in the store in the last couple of days and had that nostalgic temptation to grab one in the moment before better judgment prevailed.

                  I also remember back when the Coliseum had beer vendors, the guy in the bleachers always knew to drop by our section about 20 minutes before first pitch to sell about a dozen Henry’s.

                  What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
                • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 25,2012 9:20 pm || Up

                  Henry’s was definitely that beer; around the same price as Bud and infinitely better. Shiner Bock was that way in Texas, back when.

                  "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
                • Glorious Mundy Oct 25,2012 9:21 pm || Up

                  I like Shiner Bock.

                • sslinger Oct 26,2012 10:55 am || Up

                  When I lived there, Lone Star was the local version of PBR, and Shiner Bock was definitely the more upscale alternative. I believe now Lone Star and Henry’s are owned by the same parent company. Anybody else remember Rainier from the same era? Much better than Oly, imho.

                  Also, too, I now prefer Rolling Rock as the cheap lager alternative.

                • whimsical witch Oct 25,2012 9:21 pm || Up

                  it still exists at the smart and final! my old upstairs neighbor still buys it sometimes.

                • Glorious Mundy Oct 25,2012 9:28 pm || Up

                  I honestly think that one sip of that stuff would transport me back to vomiting in a dormitory bathroom.

                • DFA Oct 25,2012 9:44 pm || Up

                  I think its delicious

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • Glorious Mundy Oct 25,2012 9:48 pm || Up

                  It may well be. That’s just the association I have with it.

                • doctorK Oct 26,2012 8:06 am || Up

                  I loves me some Henry’s

                • DFA Oct 25,2012 9:28 pm || Up

                  I still drink it. Loved that stuff when I lived in OR where it is brewed. Its much harder to find down here, but essentially it tastes like microbrewed PBR

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • PDXAthleticsfan Oct 26,2012 8:20 am || Up

                  (Pokes nose outside. Sniffs.) Still going strong. I prefer his Henry’s Root Beer, though.

                  A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
                • DFA Oct 26,2012 11:44 am || Up

                  are you in the pearl?

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • PDXAthleticsfan Oct 26,2012 12:03 pm || Up

                  I work downtown on Pioneer Courthouse Square, live on the east side. I was maybe embellishing a little bit, but anytime I go to the Pearl, the smell of the brew pervades.

                  A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
                • DFA Oct 28,2012 12:47 pm || Up

                  east sideis where its at anyway

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • PDXAthleticsfan Oct 30,2012 11:28 am || Up

                  The great thing about this town is that there’s coolness in just about every quarter (quintile if you separate North Portland from NE Portland. Don’t know how long it’s been since you’ve been here, but lots of cool districts have popped up in the not quite ten years I’ve lived here. Right now, Burnside just east of the River has turned into a mini-Hipster hood with some cool restaurants, a nicely refurbished club/motel (Douglas Fir Lounge) and a lot of cool boutiques. Lots of other examples throughout town.

                  A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
                • DFA Oct 30,2012 7:04 pm || Up

                  I left in 08 was back for a visit in early 11. I miss it.

                  I use to hang out on burnside at Rontoms a lot.
                  Green Dragon in down that way

                  I lived on the east side out by Pied Cow and all the Hawthorneyness.

                  NW has some cool stuff in terms of breweries and the like but SW is really boring.

                  NE and N have some quality hipster establishments/restaurants/Alberta Street fair.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • sslinger Oct 30,2012 8:59 pm || Up

                  A good friend of ours lives off of NE Alberta. Love the Tin Shed for breakfast. Great little wine shop nearby. Lots of other cool stuff in the hood.

                • DFA Oct 30,2012 9:16 pm || Up

                  the Detour had the most amazing breakfast creation in 08… it just wasn’t the same last year. It was this biscutty egg sandwhich.

                  I ate one like every day.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • PDXAthleticsfan Oct 31,2012 9:10 am || Up

                  SW has a few gems, but agreed they are few and far between. I never had any reason to go there until we started sending our kids to school in that vicinity.

                  Gravy on N. Mississippi has the best breakfast now including very awesome biscuit sandwiches. Enough food to keep you going until dinner.

                  A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
                • DFA Oct 31,2012 1:20 pm || Up

                  that sounds awesome. I miss it up there.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • DFA Oct 25,2012 9:27 pm || Up

                  ew blue moon… coors… no thank you

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • andeux Oct 25,2012 10:07 pm || Up

                  The same conglomerate that owns Weinhard’s. And brews PBR.

                  TINSTAAFK
                • DFA Oct 25,2012 10:09 pm || Up

                  fucking a really?

                  thats more depressing than the giants winning

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • andeux Oct 25,2012 10:17 pm || Up

                  Well sort of. There is a MillerCoors “joint venture” running both, though it looks like it isn’t a complete merger of SABMiller and Molson/Coors.

                  TINSTAAFK
                • DFA Oct 25,2012 10:23 pm || Up

                  STOP FUCKING WITH MY BEER I CANT TAKE THIS

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • Kay Oct 26,2012 7:21 am || Up

                  No more hipster beer for you!

                  Lagunitas, Stone, and Sierra are all a Californian needs.

                  \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
                • Kay Oct 26,2012 7:22 am || Up

                  and Russian River too

                  \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
                • andeux Oct 26,2012 9:35 am || Up

                  And Anchor…and North Coast…

                  TINSTAAFK
                • Kay Oct 26,2012 9:56 am || Up

                  I could live without Anchor, but I’m a hop whore and that’s not how they operate.

                  \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
                • MikeV Oct 26,2012 9:59 am || Up

                  ♥ Pliny

                  And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

                  Thanks, and go As.

                • DFA Oct 26,2012 11:45 am || Up

                  Oregon beer >>> CA beer

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • Dial C for Concupiscence Oct 26,2012 11:59 am || Up

                  Not a chance. Russian River, Stone, North Coast, Lost Coast, The Bruery, et al. are way better than Ninkasi, Deschutes, Rogue (one of the most overrated breweries in existence), and whatever else Oregon has.

                • PDXAthleticsfan Oct 26,2012 12:05 pm || Up

                  You’ve only named the most commercial of our microbrews; there are gads of smaller ones that are better. I tend to agree with you on Rogue, though.

                  A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
                • MikeV Oct 26,2012 12:14 pm || Up

                  I’m not sure I’ve had a Rogue beer that I enjoy. I was super excited to find Oaked Double Bastard one time and it was disgusting.

                  And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

                  Thanks, and go As.

                • DFA Oct 26,2012 12:16 pm || Up

                  Rouge is super over rated. But you under rate the rest of Oregon beer significantly

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • DFA Oct 26,2012 12:18 pm || Up

                  Their Morimoto beers are pretty ok

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • MikeV Oct 26,2012 12:23 pm || Up

                  I’m kinda anxious to try something from Altamont Beer Works

                  They’re here in LibMo.

                  And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

                  Thanks, and go As.

                • Dial C for Concupiscence Oct 26,2012 1:07 pm || Up

                  What are some of these Oregon beers that I’m apparently missing out on? Can you only find them in Oregon itself?

                  (I don’t think the Deschutes or Full Sails and such of Oregon breweries are bad by any means; I just think there are much better California brewery options)

                • PDXAthleticsfan Oct 26,2012 1:12 pm || Up

                  Hopworks Urban Beer is the first that comes to mind – I doubt you can find it outside of Oregon.

                  A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
                • PDXAthleticsfan Oct 26,2012 1:20 pm || Up

                  Also, Lucky Lab and Bridgeport (which you probably can get). Hair of the Dog is reputed to be great, but I have yet to try.

                  A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
                • Kylianna Oct 27,2012 1:20 am || Up

                  If anyone going on a beer run to Oregon and into cider, Anthem is tasty. (I get in cider moods in the summer)

                  And I appreciate you, Dial C. Rogue’s okay, but SO freaking overrated.

                • whimsical witch Oct 27,2012 1:22 am || Up

                  OMG. cider. please. right now.

                • Dial C for Concupiscence Oct 29,2012 9:50 am || Up

                  I have heard positive things about Hair of the Dog actually, although I’ve never tried it. I’ll keep an eye out for the others, just in case I run into them. Thanks for the suggestions, PDX.

                • Dial C for Concupiscence Oct 26,2012 9:37 am || Up

                  At least Blue Moon was created at Coors Field, so it’s got a baseball connection.

                • elcroata Oct 26,2012 10:38 am || Up

                  Not to mention Odom

                  Because survival is insufficient
                • Kylianna Oct 27,2012 1:18 am || Up

                  Blue Moon is delicious, I find that acceptable.

              • nevermoor Oct 26,2012 9:35 am || Up

                Agree with this. Back when I was buying Kegs, the options were Natty Light/Natty Ice/PBR/Icehouse/Schaefer’s for the $55/keg range. Even name brand shitty beers were more like $70.

                PBR is the clear winner in that category.

                "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • Kay Oct 26,2012 9:58 am || Up

                  Local microbrew kegs are often cheap compared to lesser-quality national brands.

                  Before my wife had to quit drinking beer, we used to get kegs of Monkey Knife Fight Ale (4.9%ish) for $125. The Eye Of The Hawk keg for my wedding was almost $200.

                  \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
                • Kay Oct 26,2012 9:59 am || Up

                  that kind of rambled on a bit and didn’t make as much sense as I thought it did.

                  I’ve been writing dialogue all morning, so that would explain why.

                  \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
                • nevermoor Oct 26,2012 10:01 am || Up

                  Sure. But this was college frat party beer, so that third digit is an instant disqualifier.

                  Beer pong is not played with local microbrews.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
                • Kay Oct 26,2012 10:06 am || Up

                  I went to something once that felt like a college frat party with beer pong, except it was all lesbians between the ages of 18 and 30… and me… and Bloomie… I think we stayed for about five minutes.

                  \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
                • MikeV Oct 26,2012 10:08 am || Up

                  I’m intrigued and would like to subscribe to that newsletter.

                  And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

                  Thanks, and go As.

                • beebo Oct 26,2012 10:15 am || Up

                  That scenario sounds hauntingly familiar.

                • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 26,2012 10:02 am || Up

                  Man, I haven’t bought a keg in quite a long time. Used to be a pretty frequent occurance.

                  "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
                • Kay Oct 26,2012 10:07 am || Up

                  I have a keggerator in my garage, unused and unplugged.

                  \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
                • MikeV Oct 26,2012 10:10 am || Up

                  Man at one point I had plans to convert one of my garage cabinets (old 1950s metal kitchen cabinets I repurposed) into a kegerator. Was going to use the guts of a kegerator, insulate the cabinet, and have enough room for probably 3 different 3 gallon soda kegs at a time.

                  And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

                  Thanks, and go As.

                • Kay Oct 26,2012 11:42 am || Up

                  That would have been pretty kick ass, for sure.

                  \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
                • MikeV Oct 26,2012 12:16 pm || Up

                  another time. It’s not like it would take a herculean effort to make it happen

                  And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

                  Thanks, and go As.

              • aardvark Oct 28,2012 9:10 am || Up

                Simpler Times beats them both.

                • DFA Oct 28,2012 9:35 am || Up

                  never been to a bar with it, so it is dqed

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • Kay Oct 28,2012 10:48 am || Up

                  It’s can only.

                  \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
                • DFA Oct 28,2012 11:42 am || Up

                  What and you think i get my pbr on draft? lol

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • aardvark Oct 28,2012 2:30 pm || Up

                  You only drink in bars?

                • DFA Oct 28,2012 2:50 pm || Up

                  at home I generally drink higher quality beer.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • Dial C for Concupiscence Oct 29,2012 9:51 am || Up

                  That was often the go-to in college for me.

  12. DFA Oct 25,2012 5:29 pm

    PS Why wasn’t Delmon Young nontendered last offseason?

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
  13. Jennifer Oct 25,2012 5:31 pm

    My patient is 80 y/o. Why do I need to know his sperm count?

    • Kay Oct 25,2012 5:37 pm || Up

      That does seem a bit silly.

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
      • Jennifer Oct 25,2012 5:51 pm || Up

        I need to explain this in my paperwork. I’m at a loss.

        • Soaker Oct 25,2012 5:55 pm || Up

          I would guess it’s so the hospital can bill for some unneccessary cancer tests.

          What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
        • ozzman99 Oct 25,2012 6:02 pm || Up

          Answer: You don’t. Whoever ordered this test should be fired.

          • Jennifer Oct 25,2012 6:13 pm || Up

            It was part of a URINE sample, which was even weirder.

            • ozzman99 Oct 25,2012 6:17 pm || Up

              You’re counting the sperm in his urine? Maybe you’re trying to see if his balls have sprung a leak?

              • ozzman99 Oct 25,2012 6:18 pm || Up

                Which they probably have. If he’s 80,he probably steps on them every time he walks.

                • Jennifer Oct 25,2012 6:51 pm || Up

                  Do your ball hang low? Can you tie them in a knot? Can you tie them in a bow? Can you throw them over your shoulder like a continental soldier?

                • ozzman99 Oct 25,2012 6:59 pm || Up

                  Wait. Are you calling me old?

                • ozzman99 Oct 25,2012 7:07 pm || Up

                  Get off my lawn.

                • Jennifer Oct 25,2012 7:08 pm || Up

                  You don’t have one.

                • nevermoor Oct 26,2012 9:36 am || Up

                  Adrian Beltre is safe from this.

                  "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
              • Jennifer Oct 25,2012 6:21 pm || Up

                “His balls sprung a leak.” That’s what I’m going for.

                I asked my REAL nursey friends, and they said it was due to a residual from a recent ejaculation. I cried.

                • ozzman99 Oct 25,2012 6:26 pm || Up

                  Now comes the real question: did he have sex, or should you not have shaken his hand?

                • Jennifer Oct 25,2012 6:27 pm || Up

                  Or, what exactly am I in for tomorrow?

                • dmoas Oct 25,2012 6:30 pm || Up

                  Brown chicken, brown cow.

                • Jennifer Oct 25,2012 6:32 pm || Up

                  Also, I think this guy owns the building I live in. Free rent?

                • ozzman99 Oct 25,2012 6:42 pm || Up

                  It’s not worth it.

                • Jennifer Oct 25,2012 6:44 pm || Up

                  I’m working 1 day a week. It would be worth it.

                • ozzman99 Oct 25,2012 6:50 pm || Up

                  You say that now. What till you see an 80 year old’s junk. Some things can’t be unseen.

                • Jennifer Oct 25,2012 6:52 pm || Up

                  Do you know how many times I’ve seen an 80 y/o’s junk already?

                • ozzman99 Oct 25,2012 6:59 pm || Up

                  Any number greater than 1 is too much.

                • ozzman99 Oct 25,2012 7:09 pm || Up

                  If you need help gouging your eyes out, just let me know.

                • ozzman99 Oct 25,2012 6:31 pm || Up

                  Oh, your ass is getting pinched. One way or another, it’s getting pinched.

                • Jennifer Oct 25,2012 6:37 pm || Up

                  Not likely. I have yet to have a patient pinch my ass. I usually get the mean ones who say things that make me cry.

                • ozzman99 Oct 25,2012 6:42 pm || Up

                  Just tell me who they are. Me and my Louisville Slugger will pay them a visit.

                • Jennifer Oct 26,2012 6:50 pm || Up

                  Well, my patient said he loved me. He had dementia, and couldn’t remember the nurse who took care of him the last two days but he remembered my name. He asked for me, and when I got in there he asked for me to wipe his ass because the aid didn’t do it… She did do it. I think he was trying to get off.

                • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 26,2012 7:23 pm || Up

                  Ew!

                  But come my time of dementia, senility, and decrepitude I probably shouldn’t make any promises.

                  "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
                • dmoas Oct 25,2012 6:27 pm || Up

                  Taken a step further. If it comes up positive, it means that while he was laying in bed with his hands tied up, he’s very easily aroused.

                • Soaker Oct 25,2012 6:31 pm || Up

                  Good for him, but it doesn’t answer the question of why you need to know his sperm count. Seriously, I think a lot of this is “just run the test and we’ll charge Medicare”.

                  What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
    • ozzman99 Oct 25,2012 5:38 pm || Up

      Because your boss thinks it will be funny. Your boss is right. This is funny.

    • dmoas Oct 25,2012 6:18 pm || Up

      Low sperm count can be a sign of other health related issues?

      • andeux Oct 25,2012 6:48 pm || Up

        But I think it can also be a sign of being 80 years old.

        TINSTAAFK
        • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 25,2012 6:58 pm || Up

          If he had an overly high sperm count he’s probably doping.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • elcroata Oct 26,2012 2:28 am || Up

      Two words: Zvonimir. Rogoz.

      Because survival is insufficient
  14. Soaker Oct 25,2012 5:42 pm

    Cue the Aybar-McCarthy replays.

    What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
  15. futwork Oct 25,2012 5:42 pm

    Fister just took a liner off the head, but miraculously seems to be okay.

    • Glorious Mundy Oct 25,2012 5:43 pm || Up

      Where exactly did it hit him?

      • Soaker Oct 25,2012 5:46 pm || Up

        It was a little above the right ear, but not so much a direct hit as McCarthy got because the ball continued in a straight line (horizontally) out to short center field, so it apparently skimmed off the head rather than conking him.

        What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
        • Glorious Mundy Oct 25,2012 5:57 pm || Up

          Ok, just saw the video. The ball drastically changed direction after it hit him. I am shocked he didn’t come out of the game considering the McCarthy precedent. That ball hit him very hard.

    • ozzman99 Oct 25,2012 5:49 pm || Up

      I’m assuming they pulled him anyway, just as a precaution?

      • DFA Oct 25,2012 5:52 pm || Up

        nope, now hes hitting

        In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
        • ozzman99 Oct 25,2012 5:54 pm || Up

          Huh. Seems like something you shouldn’t mess around with.

        • Glorious Mundy Oct 25,2012 5:55 pm || Up

          Wow, incredible.

  16. ozzman99 Oct 25,2012 5:53 pm

    I’ve seen what I’m pretty sure is the ghost of a cat in this house. Right now, it smells like that damn thing just used it’s ghost litterbox.

  17. ozzman99 Oct 25,2012 5:54 pm

    Smokey & The Bandit II is on.

    • Kay Oct 25,2012 9:08 pm || Up

      I know this isn’t a tagline, but wouldn’t it be awesome if we could have disposable taglines that came up only once or twice and then erased themselves, ‘cuz if we did, this definitely would be one of the!

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
  18. MikeV Oct 25,2012 7:09 pm

    No house.

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

    • ozzman99 Oct 25,2012 7:11 pm || Up

      FK. Sorry.

    • Soaker Oct 25,2012 7:17 pm || Up

      I continue to be befuddled by your disappointment at not being able to buy get your name on the title to a house when you repeatedly say you have no money.

      Lenders forcing loans on people like you, who were more than happy to accept them, is exactly why we’ve had a housing crisis for the last several years.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • ozzman99 Oct 25,2012 7:25 pm || Up

        Maybe he means he has no money other than what he’s set aside for a down payment and mortgage payments. We don’t know his financial situation at all, and it’s not our place to judge.

        • Soaker Oct 25,2012 7:31 pm || Up

          He’s said plenty about his financial situation. I’ve been a single 30-something guy in the Bay Area and I didn’t have any illusions about buying a house by myself unless I would be willing to work 3 jobs, which I wasn’t. He thinks he ought to be able to buy a house without any money because he could do that 10 years ago. Thank goodness those days are over.

          What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
          • dmoas Oct 25,2012 7:36 pm || Up

            It can be done under the right circumstances. But your options are very limited and you have to be willing to make compromises wrt what you can buy. Assuming you can have a big/medium sized house with all the fixing will get you into trouble.

            • ozzman99 Oct 25,2012 7:40 pm || Up

              I have no idea what kind of houses Mike is looking at, and I’m not comfortable assuming that I know what he’s thinking.

              • dmoas Oct 25,2012 7:51 pm || Up

                Me neither. But from the sound of it, he’s not looking for bells and whistles but he may still be going over his means just the same. But like you, I see no reason to make any assumptions about any of it.

              • Soaker Oct 25,2012 7:55 pm || Up

                I do have an idea about the houses and about what’s he’s thinking because we’ve had several conversations here such as this one. They’re all full of self-pity and it just gets tiresome.

                What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
                • ozzman99 Oct 25,2012 8:04 pm || Up

                  I’m not trying to change your mind, but he’s angry and frustrated and disappointed and he wants to vent. I don’t really have a problem with that.

                • Jennifer Oct 25,2012 8:05 pm || Up

                  Yes, Mike. People are on the internet are arguing about your life. You’ve made it, son.

                • Soaker Oct 25,2012 8:13 pm || Up

                  I don’t enjoy being an asshole but sometimes friends need stronger feedback than “Gee man that really sucks, I’m sorry”.

                  What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
                • DFA Oct 25,2012 8:44 pm || Up

                  I agree. I like it when people do that to me. Also I do that to plenty of people and then they hate me (see bed, sir).

                  However, in this particular case Mike’s problem is that he won’t leave his kids and that renting and paying a mortgage are basically the same cost in the area he is living in. If that is true, there really isn’t a good option.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • Bed Oct 25,2012 9:05 pm || Up

                  You’re so convinced I hate you…I don’t even know you, and you don’t know me.

                  But seriously, folks....
                • DFA Oct 25,2012 9:35 pm || Up

                  Are you denying that you dislike me?

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • Bed Oct 25,2012 9:38 pm || Up

                  I don’t really think about it. I know on AN I probably rec’d you more than any other person. I don’t hate you and I never have. Sometimes we get along and sometimes we don’t. If we met in real life I imagine we’d get along fine.

                  But seriously, folks....
                • elcroata Oct 26,2012 2:32 am || Up

                  OK, we need to get deepr into this. When you say you recced him more than any other person, do you mean that nobody else recced him more than you or that you didn’t rec anybody else as much as you did him. Hmm? HHMMM?!!!

                  Dan!!!!!

                  Because survival is insufficient
                • Bed Oct 26,2012 9:04 pm || Up

                  This would be who I rec’d the most…my guess is I rec’d DFA, Dan, Oz, Pam and you, elcroata the most. I went with people who entertained me. It didn’t matter if it was about baseball or not. I rec’d quite a bit on AN.

                  But seriously, folks....
                • Poppy Oct 27,2012 2:30 pm || Up

                  What about me?!? Asshole.

                  There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
                • Kay Oct 26,2012 7:26 am || Up

                  I totally think you two would get along just fine in person.

                  DFA’s sweet and nurturing side comes out more in person than in print. He’s gonna make a heck of a father someday.

                  \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
                • DFA Oct 26,2012 11:52 am || Up

                  I appreciate the father comment.

                  That being said I find it interesting that you assume concerns of us not getting along would be because of my personality.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • Kay Oct 26,2012 12:18 pm || Up

                  You FEEL different in print than in person. I didn’t even need a large sample to figure that out.

                  \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
                • sslinger Oct 26,2012 1:32 pm || Up

                  Well, the starting premise is your assertion that Bed hates you, so it kind of follows from that.

                • DFA Oct 26,2012 2:06 pm || Up

                  I don’t think it does.

                  Two people are involved in that decision.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • Bed Oct 26,2012 10:54 pm || Up

                  The main thing I want to make clear is that I have no problem with anyone on this site. If I post something that any of you don’t like, just tell me. I’m here to have fun, not to have problems.

                  But seriously, folks....
                • elcroata Oct 27,2012 2:19 am || Up

                  I don’t like that you write too much about VORP. TOO NERDY, PAL!

                  Because survival is insufficient
                • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 25,2012 8:54 pm || Up

                  mikev is one of my favorite people on here.

                  "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
                • ozzman99 Oct 25,2012 9:03 pm || Up

                  SuSlu, is that you?

      • MikeV Oct 25,2012 9:49 pm || Up

        I have no intention of going around and around so I will simply say your assumption is incorrect and that is that…

        If you have some sort of problem with me or what I post, I invite you to do one of two things: a) Come out to a gathering and we can have a beer and shoot the shit, or b) fuck off and don’t bother replying to me any longer. I don’t particularly care which, because I have a whole fucking shitload of other things to do with my life as opposed to defend myself on the internet when all I want to do is put a roof over the head of my kids.

        Now I’ll go get another beer and log off for the night.

        Thanks, and go A’s.

        And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

        Thanks, and go As.

        • grover Oct 27,2012 3:37 pm || Up

          Oh sure, you’ll go have a beer with that guy!

  19. ozzman99 Oct 25,2012 7:27 pm

    That was one hell of a bunt just now.

  20. lenscrafters Oct 25,2012 7:29 pm

    I’m resigned to the fact that the universe just wants good things to happen to the Giants.

    • dmoas Oct 25,2012 7:36 pm || Up

      Fuck the universe.

      • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 25,2012 7:49 pm || Up

        Like Sandoval’s belly, it just keeps getting bigger.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • colin Oct 26,2012 6:14 am || Up

          Like Sandoval’s belly, the universe has recently (re-)entered a phase of exponential expansion, which might ultimately lead to an event called the “Big Rip“.

          • harensheir15 Oct 26,2012 7:06 am || Up

            Hah.

            Astronomers are predicting an increase in the number of Coronal Mass Ejections in the future.

  21. Englishmajor Oct 25,2012 7:58 pm

    You don’t think the Baseball Gods are just trolling Giants fans?

    • dmoas Oct 25,2012 8:11 pm || Up

      It’s their sick, twisted, horribly fucked up way of giving the fucking Tigers comeuppance… instead of giving it to us, they’re screwing us. Fuck the baseball gods.

    • batgirl Oct 25,2012 8:12 pm || Up

      Sigh. It doesn’t seem like it. Though I’m holding out hope that since in each other series they started flailing and then had to win 3 straight to avoid elimination, they’ve messed up their M.O. and the reverse will happen.

  22. doctorK Oct 25,2012 8:15 pm

    FK it already.

  23. Glorious Mundy Oct 25,2012 8:18 pm

    I’d almost rather they just sweep it and get it over with rather than drag it out to 6 or 7 games.

    • bear88 Oct 25,2012 9:31 pm || Up

      That’s where I’m at now. Just win it already. I’ll deal with the parade hassle next week. And then it will be over. The Giants have caught breaks, but when they destroyed Verlander, I assumed it was a done deal.

  24. DFA Oct 25,2012 8:39 pm

    The Giants are proof of how .500 seasons kill your franchise. By being bad rather than mediocre from 05 to 08, they got 13.4 WAR this season from their top 10 1rst round draft picks from those drafts.

    In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
    • Soaker Oct 25,2012 8:47 pm || Up

      Though being bad for a number of years in a row isn’t exactly a panacea as Kansas City Royals and Pittsburgh Pirates fans will attest.

      What I discovered Blew. My. Mind. -- Pat Boone
      • DFA Oct 25,2012 8:48 pm || Up

        you have to not draft luke hochaver its true

        In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
        • Glorious Mundy Oct 25,2012 8:50 pm || Up

          You need a Buster Posey to be there, and you need to be smart enough to take him if he is there.

    • lenscrafters Oct 25,2012 9:10 pm || Up

      Lincecum and Bumgarner were drafted 10th overall. Cain was 25th. It’s evened out by the fact that Choice, Russell, Weeks were 10th, 11th, 12th respectively.

      Posey is the only “proof” as he was the only pick significantly higher than what the A’s have had.

      • Glorious Mundy Oct 25,2012 9:13 pm || Up

        And of course the A’s had the 24th pick in the Cain draft.

        • MikeV Oct 25,2012 9:50 pm || Up

          and took Blanton

          And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

          Thanks, and go As.

          • Glorious Mundy Oct 25,2012 9:55 pm || Up

            Which is not that huge a fail by MLB drafting standards, but still, imagine the prospects we would have gotten for Cain by now!

            • dmoas Oct 25,2012 10:03 pm || Up

              I’d prefer to imagine how many fewer WS championships the fking Giants would have by now.

          • DFA Oct 25,2012 10:03 pm || Up

            There is only a 7 WAR difference between the two

            In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
      • DFA Oct 25,2012 9:43 pm || Up

        We had one year at 10

        They had 6 5 10 and 10.

        In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
        • grover Oct 27,2012 3:27 pm || Up

          Yes. How dare the A’s win 91 games in 2004.

          And 88 games in 2005.

          And 93 games in 2006 and go all the way to the ALCS.

          • DFA Oct 27,2012 3:38 pm || Up

            Thats not what I am saying at all but 2007-11 we didn’t suck enough.

            In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
            • grover Oct 27,2012 4:17 pm || Up

              The 07 draft was decimated by injury (Simmons) and FKing retirement (Desme). 08 brought Weeks and Ross; Weeks might still work out. 09 will forever be the Hindsight is 20-20 Why-Didn’t-They-Draft-Trout?!?! year but Green/Stassi/Krol + Straily still has potential. 10 is Choice + Griffin. 11 was a loaded draft and landing Gray at 18 was a boon. As for 2012… knowing what you know now, if the A’s could re-do and pick #1 overall, who would you rather see them take besides Russell???

              Other than 2009, where did the A’s invest serious capital (either cash or prospects) into the MLB team? Chavez was a sunk cost by this time frame, as was Crosby. Harden and Blanton would get traded by the end of the year. Those represent 4 of the top 5 salaries on the roster at the start of 2008. (Street was the 6th highest, for what it’s worth.)

              Arguing that the A’s should have drafted abysmally prior to 2007 so their teams would truely suck in 2008-2011 in the hopes that they’d draft well during those seasons seems rather unrealistic.

              • DFA Oct 27,2012 4:30 pm || Up

                You are completely missing my point.

                The A’s haven’t drafted well. Look at the number of their top prospects that were drafted by the organization v outside. However that isn’t my point.

                I would argue that in both 09 and 11 the A’s made moves to help contention that shouldn’t have been made because we should have just bit the bullet .

                In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • grover Oct 28,2012 8:53 am || Up

                  I think the the A’s have drafted well in terms of what they received in relation to what they invested. Yes, there were drafts that we both wished would have seen more of a finacial commitment from management, I’m not denying that. But if Weeks rebounds into a starting caliber 2B (or gets traded to a team for a return commensurate with a starter) then I don’t see how you can give a failing mark to the A’s recent drafts.

                  You know I’m not going to defend 2009.

                  But you’re wrong on 2011. Beane acquired Willingham and DeJesus for pennies on the dollar at a time when the organization had a critical need in the OF. They offered immediate production plus the option of using them as trade chips or to earn additional draft picks. Fuentes was a gamble that did not pay off but Balfour has. McCarthy hit. Kouz lost it, but he appeared to be a solid Plan B when the run at Beltre fell short.

                • DFA Oct 28,2012 11:31 am || Up

                  The decision to not invest in the draft is Beane’s decision and that is on his head. Basically you are taking a starter that has one outing where he pitches well and strikes a bunch of people out and then blows out his arm for the year and saying “Well he is a good starter when he is healthy.” That doesn’t matter though when you are looking at overall contribution to the team.

                  They offered immediate production plus the option of using them as trade chips or to earn additional draft picks. Fuentes was a gamble that did not pay off but Balfour has.

                  We earned 1 supplemental pick from the whole thing. We got some meaningless production in a year where we sucked. We should have been playing someone cheap that had breakout potential.

                  Fuentes was a disaster.

                  Balfour has been worth his salary but hasn’t been worth his salary plus the draft pick that we gave up for him.

                  McCarthy was a scrub. We should have been picking up scrubs and trying to find if they hit.

                  When the Beltre ran fell short the A’s should have cashed their chips in and tried to completely rebuild.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • grover Oct 28,2012 12:39 pm || Up

                  Balfour has been worth his salary and was a key contributor in this year’s success.

                  DDJ did not perform as expected/projected.

                  Pig didn’t have the hoped for trade value in July, 2011.

                  The question is: did Beane make sound, responsible moves to acquire these players? He gave up a pittance to get them; he came out ahead at the buying point. Its too bad the end result wasnt the boon hoped for.

                  The A’s should have been playing some unnamed players with breakout potential. Sound point.

                  As for the draft, Beane has had to balance the big league roster and the draft with a strict budget. He’s had some success doing that; he’s also had failure. I don’t deny that but you seem to continually ignore that point. The irony is your Harden analogy gives more credit to the successful contributions of the example than you give the actual person.

                • DFA Oct 28,2012 1:33 pm || Up

                  See this is the biggest croc of your argument.

                  As for the draft, Beane has had to balance the big league roster and the draft with a strict budget.

                  You cant say that we paid nothing for Pig and DDJ when we spend $13m on them and spent almost nothing on the that draft. Without the cost of the prospects, if you are gutting your draft budget for MLB upgrades in a year that you are

                  As for high upside scrub types how bout Cameron Maybin who was acquired for almost nothing that offseason and is probably the best example. Someone’s former top prospect that hadn’t hit yet that would either be great or awful. Melky Cabrera was signed for just money. Nyjer Morgan was acquired super cheaply. Jonny Gomes or Andru Jones. Or letting Carter or Taylor do it.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • grover Oct 28,2012 3:19 pm || Up

                  Maybin was a CF and the A’s had Crisp already under contract. Melky was coming off a -1.1 fWAR season in 2010 and had amassed 2.5 fWAR for his career prior to 2011. If Beane’s plan was to get some COF production in 2011 AND potentially convert that into draft picks/prospects than Melky Cabrera was a bad option. Gomes was still under contract with Cincy and had posted a -0.1 fWAR 2010. Jones could have been an option, assuming he wasn’t chasing a ring when he signed with the Yankees. Nyjer Morgan… eh, maybe. Hindsight makes him look prettier than he did after 2010. Taylor bombed in AAA and Carter, as you’ve said, in the OF is BAD.

                  Your argument is that Beane should have gone cheap in Oakland and dumped his cash into the draft. I admit that’s a fair plan; with the caveat that you’ve still got to hit on your picks AND those draft picks probably aren’t going to develope while Anderson, Cahill and Gio headline the rotation.

                  (Irony. I know.)

                  What is also a fair plan… investing cash into the big league roster with the idea of turning the short term rentals into more advanced prospects in July OR, as a fail safe, draft picks in 2012. DDJ flopped horribly in terms of earning the A’s long term value, such is the risk when making a trade. But Pig netted 2 draft picks in 2012. But neither COF put the A’s into a long term fiscal hole and considering the early returns of the 2012 draft the extra wins they added to the 2011 team did not hurt Oakland in the long run.

                • DFA Oct 28,2012 5:11 pm || Up

                  You are conflating a bunch of issues.

                  First the A’s went cheap in the 2011 draft when it was the last draft that they could have spent money on. If you take 13m from Pig and DDJ in 2011 and invest it in the draft without penalty, you could go way over slot rather than spending next to nothing on the draft last year. I bet those prospects would be close to helping this wave.

                  those draft picks probably aren’t going to develope while Anderson, Cahill and Gio headline the rotation.

                  Which I why after failing to get Beltre I suggested that we blow the whole thing up and trade Cahill and Anderson (Gio I wanted to keep because I thought he would improve his stock for a later trade) along wtih getting rid of Bailey and anyone else of value. Further, even if DDJ and Pig were good it wouldn’t have been enough to make the A’s contenders during the reign of CAG. But even if they hit the shit out of the ball, they were only going to be around for 1 year and the A’s wouldn’t have had the ability to sustain a run anyway. It was a terrible plan because even if it worked out it would have only meant 1 year of possible contention while sacrificing more than that with losing the investment in two drafts.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • grover Oct 28,2012 5:34 pm || Up

                  You’re always advocating blowing the whole thing up and the fact is, there are other ways to build a winning team. Adding DDJ and Pig on the short term allowed Beane to try and put a winning team on the field AND help him add pieces for the long term. The long term addition of two draft picks was not nearly as drastic as what you suggested he do, but could still pay dividends down the road.

                  If it had worked out as planned the A’s would’ve had a winning season in 2011, up to 4 extra draft picks, and the financial flexibility to make the moves they ended up making this last offseason.

                  That would have been a good outcome.

                • DFA Oct 28,2012 5:55 pm || Up

                  You’re always advocating blowing the whole thing up

                  Except when I suggested going all in with Beltre twice and then trading the entire farm for immediate upgrades. I also would have gone all in this year and this offseason. The thing is for most of the time that you and I have known eachother that was absolutely that right course.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • grover Oct 28,2012 8:01 pm || Up

                  I’ll rephrase: You’re always going to extremes. Paying whatever to land… Chase Headley (seems a good example) this July would most likely have been foolhardy. What the A’s really needed was another quality bullpen arm, as I thought relying on Scribner, Blevins and just adding Neshek was going to bite Oakland in the ass. Adding a relief arm would not have pillaged the system.

                  And for most of the time we’ve known each other blowing everything up was not the right course.

                • DFA Oct 28,2012 8:04 pm || Up

                  Well not blowing shit up didn’t work very well.

                  And as close to blowing shit up as we have ever gotten resulted in this playoff run.

                  What we needed was Hanley Ramirez and Marco Scutaro. Which was available for essentially nothing.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • MikeV Oct 28,2012 8:09 pm || Up

                  HanleY :(

                  And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

                  Thanks, and go As.

                • grover Oct 28,2012 8:38 pm || Up

                  You think last off-season was blowing shit up?

                  I mean true, Cahill has kept improving but he got swapped for a near ready SP with similar (or more, depending on who you ask) upside and a near ready RP with a big fastball.

                  Gio brought back a metric shit ton; including a big league ready SP replacement. I thought he still had a bit of upside but not a nearly 2 Win bump. I think the Nats made Beane too good an offer to turn down, regardless of the state of the A’s.

                  Bailey was a closer. How many times has Beane traded his closer?

                  So sure, the Cahill trade was a bit of a shock but Beane didn’t part ways with Crisp or Suzuki or even shop Weeks and he made a big money gamble on Cespedes. Beane’s 2011 off-season, as a whole, was much more a middle-of-the-road course than an extreme turn. (Admittedly one involving something of a lead foot.)

                  Scutaro got ridiculously hot in SF and produced ~80% of his fWAR value during 61 games with the Giants. Yeah… I didn’t see that coming. I’d love to know who was discussed in a potential Hanley trade and what kind of money was involved because there’s a legit question as to whether he’s going to be worth what he’s going to get paid for the next couple seasons. So I liked Hanley as a short term rental but the long term was scary.

                  No matter how happy MikeV woulda been this summer.

                • MikeV Oct 28,2012 8:58 pm || Up

                  Hey I’m rarely 100% completely sure about baseball stuff, but goddammit I was RIGHT about Hanley and about Matt Kemp.

                  YOU CAN’T TAKE THAT FROM ME

                  Also how close are you to Davis? I’ll be up there the 9th and 10th.

                  And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

                  Thanks, and go As.

                • grover Oct 28,2012 9:17 pm || Up

                  40-45 minutes away. I work the 10th but have Sunday off.

                • grover Oct 28,2012 5:01 pm || Up

                  Another things… you need to factor in where the A’s were coming out of the 2010 season. They finished 81-81 and only got ~ 3.3 fWAR from their outfield (factoring Cust’s 2.2 fWAR at DH). COF was the obvious weakness on that team.

                  The 2011 OF earned 6.3 fWAR (factoring Matsui’s 0.3 fWAR at DH). The 2011 squad also got 2.9 fWAR more from the SP and 2.7 fWAR more from the bullpen than the 2010 squad produced.

                  What killed the 2011 squad was the starting infield of Barton, Ellis, Pennington and Kouzmanoff combining for 15.1 fWAR in 2010 and then dropping to 1.3 fWAR in 2011; that drop only partially mitigated by the addition of Weeks and Sizemore to the tune of a combined 3.6 fWAR in partial seasons.

                  I remember folks talking about some regression concern in the 2010 infield numbers but nothing like what actually happened. SHould Beane have seen the infield collapse coming? I think that’s asking too much.

                • DFA Oct 28,2012 5:51 pm || Up

                  Actually many of us predicted the collapse of Kouz (I had him at 1.5 WAR going into the year) and Pennington, who I had at 2.5 WAR, Ellis being hurt and being a black hole wasn’t surprising at all considering his injury history and I only gave him 2 WAR and Barton I had at 3.

                  So yes I expected them to produce 9 WAR rather than 15 so even if you increased the value of the OF by 6 WAR from the acquisitions it would have just gone back into the regressions by the INF.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • grover Oct 28,2012 8:16 pm || Up

                  Our definitions of collapse seem to be different.

                  Kouz losing half his value is serious regression. Going from 3 Wins to replacement level is a collapse. Same for Ellis. Same for Barton.

                  Semantics aside, if all the improved outfield production did was replace the regression of the infield then the 2011 A’s would have still been ~4 Wins better than the 2010 A’s thanks to improved pitching.

                • DFA Oct 28,2012 9:05 pm || Up

                  YAY an 85 win team!!!! WOOT!

                  Ellis was always a huge injury risk
                  Pennington had offseason shoulder surgery.
                  Kouz had a bum back.

                  That screams collapse risk.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • grover Oct 28,2012 9:27 pm || Up

                  Yet you projected 2 Wins, 2.5 Wins and 1.5 wins, respectively. Go figure!

                  The 2010 team was also 4 wins under their Pythagorean W/L projection. Hell, 4 wins here, 4 wins there and who knows what happens. I don’t recall what the preseason W/L projections said about the 2012 A’s. I remember whispers about a 100 loss season but I don’t know if that was based on any calculations.

                  Point is this… when you put the best possible team you can on the field sometimes you get a payout greater than what you might have expected. Could Beane have done the slash and burn program you advocated prior to the 2011 season? Absolutely. Would the A’s be where they are today? Not very likely.

                • whimsical witch Oct 28,2012 9:30 pm || Up

                  this is why i prefer the Mystery.

                • DFA Oct 28,2012 9:35 pm || Up

                  2011 season? Absolutely. Would the A’s be where they are today? Not very likely.

                  What benefits to todays team did the 2011 season have?

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • MikeV Oct 28,2012 9:45 pm || Up

                  We had to find two new corner OFs. Enter Reddick and Cespedes.

                  And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

                  Thanks, and go As.

                • grover Oct 28,2012 9:59 pm || Up

                  Off the top of my head: If DFA got to Nuke the A’s

                  Crisp would be gone.
                  Balfour would be gone.
                  (That’s 4.5 Wins that the A’s needed in 2012)
                  Weeks would be gone. (Hey, not every move woulda been a negative!)
                  No idea if Sexy Pants makes his way to the Green & Gold.
                  Doubt Seth Smith shows.
                  (There’s another 4.5 Wins off the 2012 roster, assuming Smith wasn’t on the DFA drawing board… and kudos if he was.)

                  I could see Moss and Gomes fitting into your plan, but not Inge ’cause you’d have let MikeV convince you to move Barton to 3B.

                  Seriously though, Beane kept a core from that 2011 team to build around. He quadrupled McCarthy’s salary in spite of the risks. He kept Balfour instead of looking to make a salary dump. Suzuki, Weeks, Pennngton, Crisp and Sizemore headed to ST with starting jobs. The short term money invested in DDJ and Pig gave Beane the means to pursue Cespedes.

                • MikeV Oct 28,2012 10:04 pm || Up

                  I approve this message

                  And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

                  Thanks, and go As.

                • DFA Oct 28,2012 10:09 pm || Up

                  im going to move this to a seperate thread to answer because we have reached the edge.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • grover Oct 28,2012 10:11 pm || Up

                  OK. I’m calling it a night.

    • andeux Oct 25,2012 10:10 pm || Up

      The Giants being successful one way proves that there’s no other way? I guess I hallucinated the A’s also winning 94 games this year.

      TINSTAAFK
      • dmoas Oct 25,2012 10:16 pm || Up

        Let’s wait until they repeat that before believing it isn’t an anomaly. Fk you baseball gods, but you damn well better make sure this is a trend, assholes.

      • DFA Oct 25,2012 10:23 pm || Up

        Except the giants have been good for a while.

        In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
        • nevermoor Oct 26,2012 9:42 am || Up

          I mean, they weren’t actually very good in 2010.

          "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  25. Glorious Mundy Oct 26,2012 9:50 am

    Political ad of the year. Elcroata, watching this will explain much about current American politics.

    • MikeV Oct 26,2012 9:55 am || Up

      I.. HUh???

      And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

      Thanks, and go As.

      • Glorious Mundy Oct 26,2012 9:58 am || Up

        You sound suspiciously pro-corn dog party. Obviously not in touch with South Dakota values.

        • MikeV Oct 26,2012 9:59 am || Up

          Frankly if you’re not pro-corn dog, you’re anti-america.

          And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

          Thanks, and go As.

          • Glorious Mundy Oct 26,2012 10:01 am || Up

            That’s what I would have thought. It’s deep fried, it’s on a stick, and its primary ingredients are corn and pig parts. Doesn’t get much more American than that.

            • dmoas Oct 26,2012 10:19 am || Up

              Bacon-wrapped corn dog.

              • dmoas Oct 26,2012 10:20 am || Up

                That’s right. I saw your American. And raised you America FUCK YEAH.

                • Englishmajor Oct 26,2012 10:31 am || Up

                  Was the umlaut in Jagermeister was meant to signify the essential foreignness of the beverage, or was it a tipoff that the person who made the ad was a rootless cosmopolite for hire.

                • Englishmajor Oct 26,2012 10:40 am || Up

                  Uh…I shouldn’t post at the same time as I’m on the phone unless I’ve had more than four hours sleep.

              • ozzman99 Oct 26,2012 6:41 pm || Up

                I’ll take one. Hold the corn dog.

          • nevermoor Oct 26,2012 10:04 am || Up

            I would have thought so. Apparently being a democrat is evil enough to trump even a love of corn dogs.

            "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
          • DFA Oct 26,2012 11:54 am || Up

            Corn dogs are gross

            In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
            • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 26,2012 12:06 pm || Up

              Agreed.

              "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
            • MikeV Oct 26,2012 12:20 pm || Up
              And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

              Thanks, and go As.

              • DFA Oct 26,2012 12:38 pm || Up

                Alton Brown’s food is gross

                In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • MikeV Oct 26,2012 12:39 pm || Up

                  right

                  And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

                  Thanks, and go As.

          • Dial C for Concupiscence Oct 26,2012 12:11 pm || Up

            That’s durn right.

    • beebo Oct 26,2012 10:01 am || Up

      Oh, there are a few that are way, way worse (hello, swing states!), but that one is pretty goofy on its own.

      • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 26,2012 10:05 am || Up

        I fully expect an anti-GOTV ad ominously threatening would-be voters, funded by some suspicious independant expenditure committee, to the tune of Four Dead in Ohio.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • colin Oct 26,2012 11:45 am || Up

        I am pretty impressed by the production values of that ad.

    • Englishmajor Oct 26,2012 10:05 am || Up

      “Vote for me, I’ve never traveled outside my home state or talked with anyone with a different viewpoint than my own!”

    • dmoas Oct 26,2012 10:25 am || Up

      I didn’t listen to it, but what I just saw suggested the incumbent was uniquely unqualified for politics.

    • elcroata Oct 26,2012 10:43 am || Up

      This is pure gold. Thank you so much

      Because survival is insufficient
    • elcroata Oct 26,2012 10:51 am || Up

      Young Leader Award by the Soybean Association? NOW, I’m jelaous

      Because survival is insufficient
      • PDXAthleticsfan Oct 26,2012 10:57 am || Up

        I was nominated, but was DQed when they found out I was secretly growing sorghum in my back 20.

        A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
        • elcroata Oct 26,2012 11:05 am || Up

          I actually have some US award somewhere. I think it was called Governor’ Award for Excellence in Science or something very flashy like that. A fella named Cuomo or something

          Because survival is insufficient
          • sslinger Oct 26,2012 12:04 pm || Up

            Don’t you dare run for office in South Dakota, commie.

            • elcroata Oct 26,2012 12:25 pm || Up

              North Dakota, on the other hand…

              Because survival is insufficient
    • sslinger Oct 26,2012 11:49 am || Up

      That is really one of the funniest things in a long while. I’m not sure even Daily Show/Colbert’s writers could come up with a funnier ad.

    • ozzman99 Oct 26,2012 6:56 pm || Up

      That was awesome. Who would ever vote for the guy who has traveled and studied? Smart people are so stupid.

    • Future Ed Oct 26,2012 8:08 pm || Up

      wow

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
    • doctorK Oct 27,2012 9:20 am || Up
  26. nevermoor Oct 26,2012 10:09 am

    No statement by Mitt Romney, however stupid, ends up actually being true.

    The binders full of women were thrust upon him, not requested.

    We do not, in fact, have fewer Navy ships than any time since 1917. Credit for that goes to the dangerous anti-American communist Dubya.

    Jeep is not offshoring its factories, and there is no way any honest person could conclude as much from the original article.

    At this point, maybe we should start cataloging things Romney says that are actually true.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • dmoas Oct 26,2012 10:28 am || Up

      Okay… um… yeah… um… well there was the time he said… Well… He got his name right?… sort of?

    • ozzman99 Oct 26,2012 6:57 pm || Up

      As if Romney supporters care about the truth.

  27. nevermoor Oct 26,2012 10:11 am

    Bizarre weather patterns?

    Since we know that humans can’t effect the climate, they must just mean God is a bit confused. Also too, XKCD.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • beebo Oct 26,2012 10:20 am || Up

      I am not looking forward to this crap one bit.

    • colin Oct 26,2012 11:50 am || Up

      I will be trying to fly from DC to Boston on Sunday night and then from Boston->LA->Sydney->Christchurch on Monday night. I really hope I make it out of Boston before the storm arrives.

    • doctorK Oct 26,2012 1:15 pm || Up

      The previous xkcd was brilliant.

  28. FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 26,2012 10:16 am
    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Englishmajor Oct 26,2012 10:39 am || Up

      Or the woman in the panda hat — it wouldn’t have even required cleaning.

    • elcroata Oct 26,2012 10:47 am || Up

      So, lot of crap on FOX Live. What else is new?

      Because survival is insufficient
  29. Englishmajor Oct 26,2012 10:38 am

    A’s have announced the coaching staff for next year: everyone comes back except for Rick Rodriguez, who has been replaced as bullpen coach by Darren Bush. Rodriguez “has been offered a minor league assignment in the A’s organization”.

    • Kay Oct 26,2012 12:21 pm || Up

      I wonder what the logic is behind the Bush move. Is MLB Bullpen Coach a promotion or demotion over/from AAA Manager?

      \"Weren\'t you already aware the Kay is already writing everyone\'s story? We\'re all just characters who believe we are real. Things make more sense now, don\'t they. Be honest.\"- DMOAS
      • MikeV Oct 26,2012 12:26 pm || Up

        Going to the bigs is always a promotion, innit?

        And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

        Thanks, and go As.

        • colin Oct 26,2012 1:48 pm || Up

          Might be different for managers, since they don’t have to worry quite so much about getting it done before going past their prime. I could imagine a career path that goes MLB bullpen coach->MiLB manager->MLB manager. But I’m also just making this up, because I don’t know.

  30. nevermoor Oct 26,2012 10:47 am

    Bleg:

    Part of having a new baby coming is that we need to, for the first time, own a camcorder. I’ve narrowed to three: Canon R300, Canon M500, and Sony CX260.

    I don’t want to say too much about them, since I’m interested in any unbiased reactions, but I will say the battery life issue with the R300 is not a big factor, since we would be buying extra batteries anyway. I know many of you have far more digital camera/video knowledge than I do, so educate away. If I’ve missed something obvious/better, let me know that too.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 26,2012 11:06 am || Up

      Just mount live streaming cameras on the foreheads of everyone in the house, running 24/7, so you’ll be certain to never miss a previous moment.

      We actually abandoned most video pretty early on, because the workload of recording/saving/editing/sharing quickly became preposterous and unsustainable. It proved much more feasible for us to just use digital camera stills and the occasional video function.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • nevermoor Oct 26,2012 11:24 am || Up

        Whether true or not, and I could certainly see things going that way, it doesn’t change my marching orders.

        "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
        • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 26,2012 12:08 pm || Up

          Understood. I wish I could recoup the time and money spent implementing marching orders which I knew from the start weren’t going to work right. Of course, Nurse U could well say the same about directives I’ve issued.

          "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • Poppy Oct 26,2012 5:27 pm || Up

        I managed to raise a child perfectly (mostly) well with a camera that shoots stills, on film. (Even though both of my most persistent/interesting-to-me college majors, including the one that I finally got a degree in, involve moving images… so go figure.)

        There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
    • sslinger Oct 26,2012 12:11 pm || Up

      We were given a Vivitar 426 HD camcorder a while ago – it looks like it was designed to compete with the flip. We’ve never even taken it out of the packaging, and given how I am wrt picture taking, we’re not likely to use it. If you want to try it out you’re welcome to it.

    • ozzman99 Oct 26,2012 7:01 pm || Up

      The only thing I have to contribute on this subject is that Canon makes great lenses. However, my experience is primarily with pro cameras.

  31. doctorK Oct 26,2012 12:19 pm

    I didn’t see this the other night, but it looks like we have another LAWN DART winner:

    • colin Oct 26,2012 1:50 pm || Up

      dammit. How did the A’s lose to this team?!?

    • Englishmajor Oct 26,2012 4:01 pm || Up

      I saw this a few days ago and thought LAWN DART immediately, though this gif lacks the YES logo which makes the original extra-special.

  32. JamesV Oct 26,2012 12:27 pm
    • elcroata Oct 26,2012 1:39 pm || Up

      Is she really VP of BBWAA?

      Because survival is insufficient
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 26,2012 1:44 pm || Up

        Yes, and in fact I read somewhere that she’s in line to become the Pres soon, when the incumbent retires.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • JamesV Oct 26,2012 2:24 pm || Up

          She told me that’s happening tomorrow and she should let the Onion know to change it. ;-)

        • JamesV Oct 26,2012 2:25 pm || Up

  33. FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 26,2012 1:56 pm

    I assume that all of us already agreed that the Chronicle’s CW Nevius is an idiot. Now we also know that he apparently doesn’t visit San Francisco much either:

    The Detroit speakeasy isn’t one of those yuppie bars. This is Corktown, Detroit’s version of the Mission, and there were no poseurs here.

    However, mad props to the sfgate.com front page headline writer (and gearhead, presumably) who labeled this artcle “Detroit, the Moper City.”

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • DFA Oct 26,2012 2:06 pm || Up

      His son though is a nice guy.

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
  34. Glorious Mundy Oct 26,2012 1:58 pm

    I keep reading the title of this grill as “My Small Denouement,” which makes me think I’m going to find out that the epic saga of elcroata ends with a whimper, rather than a bang.

    • PDXAthleticsfan Oct 26,2012 2:01 pm || Up

      I was going to post a grill called “Your Average Denouement” filled with tales of tragic deaths, but I’ve run out of time and will be gone all weekend.

      A soliloquy of fresh-sounding ideas which would probably be disastrous.
    • whimsical witch Oct 26,2012 2:02 pm || Up

      i totally keep reading it that way, too!

    • andeux Oct 26,2012 2:06 pm || Up

      TINSTAAFK
    • elcroata Oct 27,2012 2:22 am || Up

      Well, you are a tough crowd to please

      Because survival is insufficient
  35. MikeV Oct 26,2012 2:16 pm

    Why does Heyman keep beating the Alex Rodriguez trade drum?

    Is anybody really stupid enough to take on 5/$114M on a 36 year old who just had the worst season of his career?

    And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

    Thanks, and go As.

    • DFA Oct 26,2012 2:18 pm || Up

      yeah but someone will take on 5/60.

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
      • MikeV Oct 26,2012 2:22 pm || Up

        I wish they wouldn’t. FK the Yankees.

        And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

        Thanks, and go As.

        • DFA Oct 26,2012 2:52 pm || Up

          meh 5/60 is close to what hes worth. The yankees are still paying 60m for no production

          In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
          • MikeV Oct 26,2012 3:13 pm || Up

            Don’t care. I’m tired of them trying to pay their way out of all the fuckups they make.

            And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

            Thanks, and go As.

            • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 26,2012 3:23 pm || Up

              If their luxury tax assessments went to other teams it would be to the A’s advantage for them to eat such contracts. But alas, luxury payments go to the league for various purposes.

              "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
              • MikeV Oct 26,2012 3:25 pm || Up

                I just want them to suffer through having Arod during his fall off the cliff decline years.

                And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser.

                Thanks, and go As.

  36. mother pucker Oct 26,2012 6:15 pm
    • Glorious Mundy Oct 26,2012 7:14 pm || Up

      Will these idiots never stop with this shit?

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 26,2012 7:31 pm || Up

      Aieee, the stupid, it burns!

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • elcroata Oct 27,2012 2:54 am || Up

      Seriously, I don’t know what is worse – articles like this or Tea Party-like rhetorics. I find both so insulting-to-the-brain and they tend to make me aggressive.

      While the Tigers front office uses statistics as part of the evaluation process, “it’s not going to make the decision for us,” Dombrowski said. “For some teams, it does.”

      Seriously, WTF?

      How did this shit go down in 2008 then, really?

      Tellem: So, Dave, I think it’s time to discuss the new contract for my client
      Dombrowski: Oh, yeah, Miggy, he seems like a nice kid
      – He is the best pure hitter out there, Dave, he averaged over 140 wRC+ over last four years, and that’s including the adjustment to AL
      – C’mon, Arn, you know we don’t do these things around here.
      – My bad, Dave. The guy is simply a run producer, 130 HR and 476 RBI since 2004, you NEED him in your lineup.
      – Arn?
      – Umm, OK. He is Mr. Clutch Dave, he batted .600 for you last year with man on second and third. Six hundred, Dave!
      – No, no, no! No numbers, please, are we Moneyball here or something. Moneyball, hahaha
      – Yeah, Dave, Moneyball, hahaha
      – But he does seem like a nice kid
      – Very nice kid, yes
      – Great smile
      – Awesome smile, Dave, you nailed it
      – And very funny. He’s someone you can have a drink with and just laugh
      – So, how about 150 million?
      – Sure.

      Because survival is insufficient
    • elcroata Oct 27,2012 3:54 am || Up

      I just hate this article so much, it’s really bugging me

      Because survival is insufficient
      • harensheir15 Oct 27,2012 5:08 am || Up

        You, my friend, have been Joe-Morganed.

    • Dial C for Concupiscence Oct 29,2012 2:43 pm || Up

      I’m moderately surprised he correctly identified the author of Moneyball and didn’t attribute it to Billy Beane and/or computers.

      • Glorious Mundy Oct 29,2012 2:44 pm || Up

        But he did say that it “sold plenty of fans on the idea that the A’s won games because of a better use of computers.”

        • Dial C for Concupiscence Oct 29,2012 2:54 pm || Up

          Yeah, but he left out OBP. Crucial trolling columnist error there.

  37. batgirl Oct 26,2012 6:22 pm

    • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 26,2012 7:28 pm || Up

      Nice! I had no idea Stomper tweeted. Also, carving a pumpkin with huge plush hands has got to be hell.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
      • beebo Oct 26,2012 7:31 pm || Up

        Tweeting with those plush hands must be a similarly daunting challenge.

  38. FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 26,2012 7:47 pm
    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • Jennifer Oct 26,2012 7:49 pm || Up

      THANK YOU! I’ve been trying to remember your bro-in-law’s site for years!

      • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 26,2012 8:03 pm || Up

        Mostly he writes for car and driver now.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • ozzman99 Oct 26,2012 8:22 pm || Up

      You think I could get that guy’s insurance company to pay for this?

  39. Glorious Mundy Oct 26,2012 8:04 pm
  40. Glorious Mundy Oct 26,2012 8:21 pm

    HAHAHA

    Yankees manager Joe Girardi made a special call to the public address announcer on the press level during a Yankees playoff game to request that Alex Rodriguez not be named when Girardi pinch-hit Eric Chavez for A-Rod, people familiar with the situation said.

    So when Chavez went in for A-Rod, only Chavez’s name was announced, not A-Rod’s. Typically the announcement contains the names of both the player who is pinch hitting and the person who is being pinch-hit for.

    Cashman said he believes it showed the lengths to which Girardi went to protect A-Rod’s feelings. Such a call is very unusual.

  41. Kylianna Oct 27,2012 1:33 am

    So I talked to Ticket Services today (because I get lonely and they are my true friend) and got some info some might find interesting (with the disclaimer that if you ask three ticket services reps a question, you will get three different answers)

    1) The 22-game pack will be 24 games next season.

    2) They apparently just finished hashing out prices for next season a few days ago so we should see it posted soon. I was told that my particular area (Plaza Infield) is going to have the same ST per-game price next year (if this is true, I am pleased and impressed)

    3) There’s been over 2,000 new deposits for season tickets (gogo playoff strips)

    Also, word on the street from talking to Gigs and then ticket services was that for new season ticket holders, it will no longer be possible to buy a single 22 (now 24) game plan, there will be a minimum of 2 seats on a deposit. Not sure if this extends to any other plans. So apparently the A’s hate single people.

    • elcroata Oct 27,2012 3:54 am || Up

      Or they want to encourage dating

      Because survival is insufficient
      • harensheir15 Oct 27,2012 5:04 am || Up

        You have to hand it to them.
        Intra-fanbase spawning is guaranteed to increase attendance and merchandise sales.

      • Kylianna Oct 27,2012 8:14 am || Up

        I would have to be married for like 10 years before sharing a season ticket account, that’s just way too personal.

    • batgirl Oct 27,2012 8:14 am || Up

      So what happens with the unused ALCS tix–do those just automatically refund to your CC or do you have to send them in?

      • Kylianna Oct 27,2012 8:26 am || Up

        They auto-refund to your CC, no need to send them in, unless you paid with cash (then you have to turn them in).

        Postseason strips have complicated voodoo, though.

    • oblique Oct 27,2012 8:30 am || Up

      I was told the same thing about a single ticket plan. But then I probably would’ve just traded in tickets so that my wife and I would both attend 11 games together, which is exactly what they’re trying to avoid.

      • DFA Oct 27,2012 10:12 am || Up

        thats what we always do on our plan.

        In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
      • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 27,2012 2:09 pm || Up

        This strikes me as a bad idea from the A’s (shocking). What’s more likely: People who now buy single 22 game packs find a friend and more than double their season ticket commitment to 48, or those people instead stop buying season tickets altogether, and instead just go game-by-game? I bet a lot more people do the latter than the former. Because unless you must be in the same seat always, and also must be at all high demand games like fireworks and SFGs, then going game-by-game is easy and cheap.

        "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
        • DFA Oct 27,2012 3:29 pm || Up

          Also if the A’s suck next year and are a boring team (which isn’t that unlikely considering massive regression from Reddick Moss Carter Donaldson and the entire rotation that pitched a hell of a lot of innings) you are far less likely to go to as many games.

          In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
          • grover Oct 27,2012 3:35 pm || Up

            Not only is your glass half full it has poison in it!

            • DFA Oct 27,2012 3:42 pm || Up

              The A’s absolutely should make business decisions based on what is most likely to generate the most income. I don’t see how it is possible to have that be a good business decision.

              Further, Im not saying the A’s will suck, but if they don’t suck, people will want to go to games, but if they aren’t watch out.

              In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
              • grover Oct 27,2012 4:21 pm || Up

                I don’t give a damn about the business angle of this sub-thread (Sac + Wildland fire fighter, remember?) I take issue with the doom & gloom in your comment.

                • DFA Oct 27,2012 4:32 pm || Up

                  Well then Im not sure why you are arguing with a comment about mitigating business risk then.

                  Do I hope the A’s suck? Obviously not. Do I think that its a realistic possibility? Absolutely and any good prognosticator would.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • grover Oct 28,2012 8:57 am || Up

                  And any good prognosticator would also mention that young players, especially those with little big league experience, also have the potential to improve on their current level of production.

                  That’s the part you tend to leave out; thus my mentioning it.

                • DFA Oct 28,2012 11:42 am || Up

                  Didn’t know that Brandon Moss was young

                  Didn’t know that Chris Carter was likely to improve on the best offensive season hes had since 2008 all while competing at the highest level of baseball.

                  Didn’t know that Josh Donaldson was likely to improve on his 14.5 UZR/150

                  Didn’t know that Reddick was likely to reproduce a 20 UZR/150 or the 15% HR/FB rate

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
                • grover Oct 28,2012 12:54 pm || Up

                  Reddick had 403 pre-2012 PA over 3 seasons.

                  Moss 749 PA over 5 seasons.

                  Carter 124 PA in 2 seasons.

                  Donaldson 34 PA back in 2010.

                  Experience matters. The opportunity to learn from failure and success matters.

                  Is there risk of these guys falling on their faces next year? Absolutely. Is there still upside? Absolutely.

                • DFA Oct 28,2012 2:01 pm || Up

                  Donaldson is IMO the most likely to maintain production since the offensive production wan’t that high, and it is likely that actual improvement can happen defensively with a full offseason at 3b.

                  While MLB experience does matter, its not likely to matter when they are exceeding their ARL appropriate minor league numbers.

                  In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
        • Kylianna Oct 27,2012 4:12 pm || Up

          I would love to see the percentages of what quantity of seats season ticket holders have on their accounts, I think it’d be interesting since I know I’ve certainly met my share of other 22-game-holders who are ridin’ solo (and already had to tell two different friends of mine that were contemplating becoming season ticket holders with a single seat FC plan that they can’t anymore). I feel like, while most people have family or spouses or kids or friends or whatever, we DO make up at least a reasonable number.

          Makes me HELLA glad I gave in and got my plan last year, since there’s no way I would have been able to get a plan otherwise.

          Just seems weird that if people are all “TAKE MY MONEY”, the A’s don’t want to say “SURE.” Especially since FC plans don’t have consistent seat assignments and can be used to fill gaps in sections.

          • DFA Oct 27,2012 4:16 pm || Up

            Just seems weird that if people are all “TAKE MY MONEY”, the A’s don’t want to say “SURE.” Especially since FC plans don’t have consistent seat assignments and can be used to fill gaps in sections.

            Not if they are going for the LOOK WE WON HELLA AND WE STILL CANT MAKE MONEY LET US GO TO SAN JOSE approach, which is exactly what I would be doing if I was Wolfe

            In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
      • Poppy Oct 27,2012 2:43 pm || Up

        Talk to our other A’s-loving ex-Cardio-ite friend, who I just talked into talking her husband into putting a deposit on Sec. 215 tix… you guys should share a plan! :)

        There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
  42. elcroata Oct 27,2012 8:46 am

    Just shooting shit – Parker for Moustakas, would you do it? And what would be, in your mind the fairest match for him if A’s were to offer something. His first arbitration year is 2015

    Because survival is insufficient
      • elcroata Oct 27,2012 9:02 am || Up

        care to elaborate?
        also, does “no” mean you would not want to trade for him at all?

        Because survival is insufficient
        • dmoas Oct 27,2012 9:26 am || Up

          I wouldn’t do Parker for him. And not really sure I’d want him. His offensive numbers don’t impress me much (granted he’s young and all that), but I’d prefer to roll the dice and see what Donaldson can do there and use any pieces we might trade for something more important. I think Parker has ace potential and I’d rather see that through as well.

    • DFA Oct 27,2012 10:16 am || Up

      Genearly I would trade any pitcher for a similarly good position player. I just don’t think Moustakas is all that good considering his last two years of performance, that he will be 25 next year, and I think the fielding 16.8 or whatever it was is a fluke.

      In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor
  43. elcroata Oct 27,2012 12:38 pm

    Does anybody have a link to a number of PA with which to regress OBP, AVG, SLG and similar?

    Because survival is insufficient
  44. elcroata Oct 27,2012 12:40 pm

    I was out drinking and learned to great pieces of news

    1) They turn the clocks backward tonight, giving me an extra hour of sleep
    2) It’s Sunday tomorrow, not Monday

    Because survival is insufficient
    • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 27,2012 2:10 pm || Up

      We don’t end Daylight Savings Time until the weekend after Halloween. Which works fine for me, because I’m going to the Raiders game the next day.

      "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  45. harensheir15 Oct 27,2012 1:33 pm
    • whiteshoes40 Oct 27,2012 2:54 pm || Up

      Ooh. Looks fun.

      • harensheir15 Oct 28,2012 2:57 am || Up

        Mmhmm. SF has events all week long, culminating with the crawl on the last night. A bit more variety as well. This and this, for instance, were a lot of fun.

        One more thing. Alan Bennett, he of Madness of George III and History Boys, has a novella called The Uncommon Reader. You can probably finish it over an afternoon. I think you’d love it. Highly recommend it (to anyone who has ever enjoyed reading a book).

        • whiteshoes40 Oct 28,2012 11:17 am || Up

          Thanks for the recommendation! I have a Barnes and Noble gift card that I’ve been wanting to spend. Now I know just what to get.

          • harensheir15 Oct 29,2012 1:43 am || Up

            Of course.
            Let me know what you think.

  46. Englishmajor Oct 27,2012 2:05 pm

    Fox News puts up truthful headline, of course it was a typo

  47. doctorK Oct 27,2012 4:33 pm

    WTF? Ass-Jack is part of the pregame show for Fox?

  48. doctorK Oct 27,2012 4:56 pm

    Now singing the National Anthem
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    • Future Ed Oct 27,2012 6:46 pm || Up

      i wonder if she has a series on FOX?

      I have $5. No I don\'t.
      • ozzman99 Oct 27,2012 10:45 pm || Up

        Oh, Ed. You and your silly conspiracy theories.

  49. FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 28,2012 2:14 pm

    Susan Slusser elected President of the BBWAA! Great honor for a much-deserving baseball writer. However, it may not have been worth this:

    Slusser received a congratulatory hug from Commissioner Bud Selig.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    • whimsical witch Oct 28,2012 2:43 pm || Up

      ewwww. poor suslu. :(

      • ptbnl Oct 28,2012 2:46 pm || Up

        At least she didn’t get Ratto’s vote.

        If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
        • whimsical witch Oct 28,2012 2:50 pm || Up

          hey! welcome home!!! :D

          • ptbnl Oct 28,2012 3:04 pm || Up

            Thanks – fantastic trip, great to be home.

            If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
            • nevermoor Oct 28,2012 3:30 pm || Up

              Awesome. Welcome!

              "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
            • whimsical witch Oct 28,2012 3:31 pm || Up

              too cute! <3

            • FreeSeatUpgrade Oct 28,2012 3:51 pm || Up

              Aww! He looks contemplative.

              "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
              • ptbnl Oct 28,2012 5:15 pm || Up

                She’s a sweetheart, and I’m glad to be past that stage! Maybe it’s just too soon, but calming a persistently screaming baby and dealing with exploded diapers haven’t regained any charm yet.

                If this is His will, He's a son of a bitch.
                • Poppy Oct 29,2012 11:06 pm || Up

                  Yeah, I’m thinking it always be too soon.

                  There's a wild thing in the woolshed and it's keeping me awake at night.
                • sslinger Oct 30,2012 9:00 pm || Up

                  Ain’t that the truth.

            • batgirl Oct 29,2012 10:02 am || Up

              Oh my gosh so cute!!!

    • JamesV Oct 28,2012 4:21 pm || Up

      For those who don’t know, this is a yearly thing that begins and ends with the World Series. Still cool. First female president, and I saw an African-American woman was named the first VP.

      Race/gender barriers, keep falling!

    • Dial C for Concupiscence Oct 29,2012 12:10 pm || Up

      How did he grade her hug? Is it on the same level as her tenacity?

  50. Future Ed Oct 29,2012 3:19 pm

    grover Bait

    I have $5. No I don\'t.

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